The SNP’s Collapse Explained: The End for Scottish Independence?
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Since Nicola Sturgeon resigned as the First Minister of Scotland, the SNP's polls have plummeted. As SNP dominated Scottish politics for the past 15 years, this decline raises questions about Scottish independence. In this video, we explore the reasons behind the low polling numbers and explore whether the second referendum for an independent Scotland is at all possible.
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00:00 - Introduction
00:42 - The SNP's Rise
03:00 - The SNP's Fall
06:10 - Is This the End for Scottish Independence?
Btw its quite difficult for any party to get an outright majority in the Scottish Parliament due to the voting system. So its quite impressive that it happened in 2011.
The system is actually designed to provent this happening in order to fore cooperation. Snp broke the system
Quıte difficult? The D’Hondt voting system was chosen by Blair’s Labour for the very fact to make it near impossible for independence to occur as it’s near IMPOSSIBLE to gain outright majorities.
@@georgecampbelll the system was designed wastminster to keep the nationiist from winning ,perfidios albion up to its old tricks again ! ALBA GU BRATH
Yeah tldr skip explaining that
@@lewismcdonald9691 it's called TLDR for a reason.
If you look at polls for the desire for independence, support had started dropping off slightly since December 2022, but has remained steady since NS's resignation. The desire for independence isn't totally aligned to support for SNP. Plenty of independence supporters have got fed up or frustrated with the SNP for whatever reason.
The latest ipso poll has independence at 53%. Many fail to realise that the Scots don't like Westminster blocking their laws
@TGV Actual Cope. You know nothing about Polling or Scotland if you think that "Support for Independence" polls mean Brexit, or that they'd ask them in a way that could have concievably misconstrued that.
During the 2016 referendum, Scotland overwhelming supported Remain. Every county and with a national total of 62%. I dont think it was independence from the EU they wanted.
That's correct. But it won't stop the British media and their influencers online from aligning a drop in support for the SNP with a drop in support for independence, even if support for independence is still very much going strong.
@@FlubWubSam During the 2014 Referendum. We were told the only way to stay in the EU was to Vote to stay in the union. Two years and many broken promises later, we find ourselves in this situation.
The SNP support will quickly return 10 years later when labour does something wrong
Try 5 years later
Sure it might return to its hight under Nicholas sturgeon. But I don't see then having enough to win a reforndom anytime soon
Or when the corrupt class system and establishment re-asserts itself you mean
@@lenabo9929 England will dissolve the Union so there will be no need for another referendum in Scotland
@@lenabo9929 i agree, i just saying, Labour isn't exactly popular and well liked, people just hate the Tories and the SNP screwed things up recently, but their ideology remains in Scotland regardless of their competence
They abandoned the winning format and didnt elect a new leader named after a fish.
who done wat? all of scotland is indy
yeah we should of got a person we never voted for thats thick as shit like use. your whole countries a fxn joke to us
The Scottish Greens also support independence and are in Government with the SNP
how many people who voted Green also support independence then?
and if they're anything like the uk greens, they want to abolish the oil and gas industry.
@@joeblogs6598 Yep
@@joeblogs6598 and at the same flood Scotland with infinity migrants.
@@wulfsorenson8859 Always found it contradictory that Ireland, Wales, and Scotland all want (or have already) to leave the UK union, only to join the EU union.
They want freedom, only to throw it immediately away.
It is suffering from "catch-all" party syndrome. When there is a strong enough cause (like independence) or a popular enough leader, these catch-all parties can stay afloat. However, over time, the various factions within party which in any other situation might have been different parties start to fight among one another and the party starts to fracture. It could be a popular former leader leaving (Alba party), it could be social conservatives (the Kate Forbes folks) or independent business moderates, or it could be monarchist independence supporters vs republican independence supporters.
The monarchy question is not likely to cause a split within the SNP any time soon. The few monarchist nationalists in the party do not feel anywhere near as strong enough about the issue to cause a split
@@quartzking3997 so all those Snp Mps who pledge loyalty to the British Monarch were lying then then again Plaid Cymru aren't any better at least the Fishy pair pretented to like the Monarchy for a bit.
@@simongarthwaite7695 lol imagine thinking that swearing an oath has any beatings on someone’s actual beliefs. These same MPs pledge loyalty to Britain but would rather see it disintegrate. Everyone is just going through the motions in this archaic system until the generational shift takes place and the world can be redesigned in the contemporary world’s image
@@quartzking3997 I like our "Archiac" system I'd just rather it was for England only the oath should mean something if it didn't why don't Sinn Fein Mps take their seats at Westminster?
@@simongarthwaite7695 to protest the British establishment? To appease their republican constituents? There is a multitude of reasons for Sinn Fein not taking their seats at Westminster
I live in Glasgow and although it only anecdotal, I have also heard from many young SNP voters that the shit show of a leadership election really shocked them. They all were under the impression that SNP had a solid progressive social and housing ideas and that that was universal across the party. They only really knew of Sturgeon's time as leader who was very much those things. So seeing the VAST disagreements on issues that to them seemed central to the party in the people who were in the final running to be leader shook them. It has made several question voting for them.
yep, as someone in that age group I always got funny looks when I said that I trusted the snp to make scotland independent but not to run an independent scotland, after sturgeon stepped down I finally had some people saying the same thing back to me, especially with the religious zealots getting such a large portion of the party votes
And yet the new FM isn't letting his religion interfere with the politicts, what is fact though is bigotry and racism has reared its ugly head. The SNP are a vehicle for independence only, once that is done they dissolve and new Scottish parties will form.
It is the issue with having a party with a political goal that is neither left nor right nor centrist. It means the party is a melting pot of many different ideologies and political views all with the same goal of independence. A strong leader like Sturgeon was able to keep those groups together and push a relatively popular agenda in Scotland. However when Sturgeon stepped down all the various factions within the SNP began fighting for control over the party and finally we've been able to see the divisions within the party that they had kept hidden so well for so many years
Yeah yeah, because Rishi Sunak, Suella Braverman, Rees-Mogg are natural alternatives. In fact, Keith Stormfront is more tory that Labour so the only alternative for Scots is the Green Party.
@@fawkyou2001 The SNP has always been a broad church, for many independence is the glue holding them together. Just take a good look at how the UK is governed and that is BADLY. Independence first THEN sort the politics.
What most commentators don’t get about Scotland and the constitutional question is the the Independent movement is much more than the SNP.
What Constitution? show us the Unwritten non existent UK Constitution to read ?
People know labour are anti independence, yet more and more people are voting for them. Maybe people in Scotland aren't as pro independence as people like you like to make out
@@ScottishRoss27 I’m referring to the Scottish Constitution question (INDEPENDENT )
@@ScottishRoss27 the UK has an uncodified constitution
@@JoannaSmilesLots
Exactly, it doesn't exist
Has support for Scottish independence really eroded, or are other issues now considered more urgent, or more feasible in the short term?
Of course it hasn't.
Where in this video is the proof. Nowhere. Where was the "post for pay" information, in this video, it was definitely there, highlighted and all. 😂
You're watching an english channel. So you farting will jeopardise Scottish independence.
@@Mark-Haddow No vote has increased massively in the polls and will likely continue to as the tories leave power.
Independence to repatriate the stolen powers too people who live in this country to vote for whatever they judge is right, as its the norm in 195 other independent countries.
The Ukraine war has, and I'm getting worried about the SNP not having Scotland join NATO if it was independent, and that's a prime target for Russia.
I think you can’t say a party has collapsed when it’s still by far the biggest party in Scotland. Also support for independence hasn’t dropped its stabilized. Yes the SNP had some serious stuff to deal with. But collapsing is a bit of a statement.
I agree completely. I could understand a headline like this if there was a bad local or national election for the SNP but this video is entirely based upon poll numbers (which can fluctuate quite a bit compared to how people would actually vote)
Brits are all about destruction and surrender .....
Exactly. The Tories are in far bigger trouble, with one huge scandal after another, they will be decimated at the next UK elections.
They've dropped nearly 15 points with some pollster's that's a pretty bad result especially when it doesn't look to be getting any better.
@@williampugh1489 there is no election to be held in 12-15 months. And don’t forget they’ve only had Humza for about 2 months in the job with all the controversial and mostly anti SNP press I’m surprised the Labor party hasn’t overtaken them. Also this very healthy for the independence movement. We can see that the movement is now wider then the SNP alone the wider public can see that. This makes its more interesting to see what will happen next. But so far the SNP haven’t lost an election yet. So it seems a little premature….
Let's be honest; even if Scotland doesn't leave the UK they're still going to have their own identity.
But limited in expressing it as most powers stolen from Scotland are still held in England.
@@ScottishRoss27 you're confusing the word "stolen" with "willingly gave up".
Next you'll be saying Scotland never had any role in colonialism.
@@dww6 You just done that
Quite fortunate for England that UK is a forced Union. No Article 50 there 🎉💪
@@dww6 If you think the Scottish people willingly gave up their right to govern then you are either incredibly thick or deliberately taking the piss.
I think most of this is wishful thinking. Having the Tories in charge is the best recruiting sergeant for Scottish independence.
We shall just have to wait until the next GE to find out if Scotland has given up on being independant !
You are whistling in the dark to keep your spirits up !
@@stephenelkington4971 Much like the Tories in Scotland!
@@andrewwotherspoona5722 Nah - they know they're fcuked !
@@andrewwotherspoona5722 Watching the Scottish tories conference the other week it struck me how the members all looked like the cast of Cocoon the movie all very old and very white.
@@NoMoreToriesAnymore LOL.
The fact the UK chancellor had to pay a personal tax-fine somewhere around 5-10 times larger than the amounts being touted around the SNP scandal, tells you all you need to know about how fair the relationship is between Scotland, England, and the tory-controlled 'UK' media.
Avoiding tax and embezzling funds arent quiet the same
It's a classic whataboutism argument. A lot of SNP supporters were under the illusion that Scottish politics was less corrupt than British politics, the reality is the SNP were just better at hiding it... until recently.
@@aaroncousins4750have any funds been embezzled though? The investigations been going on for 2 years now and no charges brought as yet and I doubt there will be tbh.
@@jod7633 did the snp leader not just get arrested
@@aaroncousins4750 I don't know who you're referring to as neither Humza Yousaf, Nicola Sturgeon, or even Alex Salmond have been arrested. I presume you're referring to the former chief executive Peter Murrell who wasn't really arrested, he was taken in for questioning and then immediately released with no charges.
Going from your own polls shown at the start SNP support hasn't changed much if any, from 2018 the year before they won the Westminster election with a majority of 15 seats in Scotland. Labour's apparent rise has clearly come at the expense of the tory/floating British nationalist/tactical voters rather than "a collapse in the SNP vote".
Correct
cope harder 50% is the same as 35% come back from cloud 9 when your ready
@@covfefe1787 The latest IPSOS poll of late May shows the SNP back on 42%.
@@alicemilne1444 and ipsos poll prior had the snp at 50%
@@theotran8880 Yes, there was a drop, but all recent polls over the past few months show support for the SNP rising again.
It’s extremely inaccurate to describe the SNPs slump as a ‘collapse”. They are inevitably going to rebound after the next general election, as people will remember again why they voted out Labour in the first place. In its current form, Labour quite simply cannot hold Scotland, as Scotland is generally very much left wing, and Labour under Starmer are pretty much just the Conservatives of 2010, with a little les austerity.
A very sorry state of affairs as that’s not it appears to the rest of the world looking on in disbelief
only english say that about a party in scotland thats bigger than wen indy was on.but get rid of that cuntin charge.. hes slowing us down
Yes, but ‘disaster’ for Scottish Independencevis the new media narrative. WM doesn’t want us free of their control. So spurious unproven vids with made up polls will always be pushed forward!
100% correct. Labour have now joined the tories. Scotland is now running away from both.
Support for independence and support for the SNP are related, but they aren't the same thing. There will always be support for independence in Scotland, and the SNP is just the best route towards that right now. If that changes, then someone else will fight for it.
we should just do indy cause that guy boris gave the job to is boring
well both are the same thing. theres no union person that votes indy snp. but there isnt a party in scotland thats not indy.. theres no one voting for more of this. or less..
This might be a shock to outside observers but the independence movement in Scotland is as old as the concept of Scotland itself. Hell, even before the Kingdom of Scotland came into existence the tribes that inhabited the northern bit of the island of Britain made it clear to those coming from the south that they were very much a separate entity. The Romans got the message and built not one but two walls in response. The SNP could fade into obscurity and the people of Scotland would still demand the right of self determination.
That's a pretty politicised spin on history. First, we know f-all about popular opinion of pretty much anyone before the medieval period. If you are referring to the Picts or the Gaels, written records concerning them before the medieval period are patchy, and what does exist mostly comes from monks who weren't even trying to write accurate history or sociology as we now think of it, didn't generally try to capture what the average person thought.
Second, the various ethnic groups in what's now Scotland, including Picts, Gaels, Norse and Anglo-Saxons, also considered themselves separate from each other at various points, as did different ethnic groups in what's now England. To the extent people thought this way at all, I imagine Norse peoples in northern Scotland would have felt they had more in common with people in the York and the Danelaw than with Anglo-Saxon lowlanders. Likewise, Gaels in Dál Riata probably thought of themselves are more 'Irish' than as having anything in common with the Scottish mainland. The Kingdom of Northumbria straddled the modern Scotland-England border considerably, and I presume the Anglo-Saxons within just thought of themselves as Northumbrian.
It's arbitrary and misleading to put a anachronistic to put a box around modern Scotland and pretend peoples within that box have always considered themselves as a distinct group relative to those outside it.
@@merrymachiavelli2041 I guess they gonna ignore the first act of union too
I don't see why England will give them that right 😊 No article 50 by chance 🎉
@@merrymachiavelli2041 that is however, with respect a bit nuts though. Of course they weren't talking Pict or Gael. We have lots of historical evidence from the medieval period onwards. In 1707 (and indeed by 1707 Scotland was pretty certainly a unitary polity) there were petitions from almost all of the Burghs of Scotland against the union, hundreds of petitions; and only a few in favour. Look back into the history books, do a proper study of more than ten primary or academic sources at least, and you'll see the commenter was right. How do I know? I studied it for four years at university, and for context at the time I campaigned for a no vote in the first indyref. This issue, and the SNP, are not going away any time soon I'm afraid -- it's just a question really of how far unionists want to walk down an undemocratic path. Ireland should be a stark warning, to deny a population its rights doesn't make them compliant in the long term.
@@merrymachiavelli2041 also Scotland has had a unitary identity for hundreds of years, at least since the formation of the kingdom of Alba. Interesting points though, Scotland is indeed multiform if you go back far enough -- just like Ireland, England, Wales, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Poland and most of the larger older countries of Europe. Even the Scandinavian countries contain old conquered and integrated polities.
Just have to say that, as an American who works in news, the idea of getting into legal trouble for reporting on a court case is so incredibly alien
Media are prohibited from publishing info that will or could prejudice ongoing legal cases. Once the case is over, they are free to publish.
Jimmy in Ireland you have Family law, Sexual offences and cases with children involved as in camera you can not attend as a member of public identify the parties and reporting can happen but you can’t identify the parties.
Just as an American who doesn’t work in news, I also noticed that as well.
@@WiggyB There are restrictions on that in the United States to, but not like in Britain. This stuff mainly simply doesn’t get to the press, because the press does not get to speak directly to the jury.
@@unconventionalideas5683 Thanks
The fact that you've called British politics, "English politics" says everything you need to know about why independence is even on the cards 4:54
they do that for everything. british court ruled. na english court. an use know that holds no wait to us wen we do. just shows u how dumb they are
Because the Scots autistically screech every time they are referred to as “British “ so of course England would get a monopoly on “British “ Good god Scottish education sucks.
Well said. Blinkered.
A point worth making aswell is that many of your viewers in England may not realise the gravitas of the SNP winning a majority at Holyrood in 2011 and being 1 seat shy of it at the last election. Due to Scotland D’hondt voting method, winning an outright majority in Scotland is way way more difficult than in FPTP. It’s not impossible obv but very very unlikely. One of the men who decided on using this method has since said in the HOL that this (as we all suspected) was an attempt to prevent a nationalist majority.
They also skipped over why Salomond left so swings and roundabouts really.
good point tha ks for clarification
It also misses that the point that a weakened SNP does not result in a weakened independence vote, As the SNP vote falls the Green and Alba vote strengthens, and in Scotlands PR system this is much worse for the Unionists than a huge SNP 1 and 2 votes
We here in England couldn't give a shit about Scotland why do people think we care never understood that like seriously the scottish could get nuke and we still wouldn't even care 😂😂😂
wats up way the voting method. we dont get our real votes
People need to get into their head that the SNP exists due to the desire for independence and NOT the other way around. The desire for independence is just as strong today as it was last year and, so long as the UK government continues to treat Scotland and Scots with contempt (which it will as it can’t help itself) then this desire will continue to grow, regardless of which party best reflects that wish.
It's just as well the SNP doesn't treat Scots with contempt, eh?
@@rogink that's another story entirely. ;)
You have a fabulous deal from Westminster as does Wales its England and the people of our country who have lost out and been ignored whilst propping up your toytown Parliament
@@rogink wat does that even mean? you know we gave them there jobs. u think were stupid or something
@@danwatt5789 your english be gone
I don't think the issue of Scottish independence is going to go away any time soon. With Sinn Féin doing well in Northern Ireland, and figures for Welsh Independence rising, there are still people around the rest of the UK that want to change the layout of this state.
I think this lull is a temporary state, whilst there are changes in the known politics of Scotland
Wales becoming independent. Please make this happen, I am sick to death of the massive subsidies we pump into that place, it will save the rest of the UK an utter fortune.
@@knightsnight5929 Empire is expensive.
@@knightsnight5929
England doesn't pay border transfers taxes stealing Wale's water or Scotland's oil, gas, electricity, Timber, Food & Drink.
Both subsidise England.
Despite not going away, it seems that the movement is also not going anywhere. Support for independence has plateaued despite SNP making it the main issue and there is effectively no pressure right now on the UK gov to allow a second referendum. This seems to be the reason for whole 'de facto' referendum tactic to exert some pressure on the uk gov to allow it but that seems to have failed.
Only way I see it happening is if Scottish people started protesting en mass and international pressure forced the hand of the UK gov or if Labour UK have a minority gov and made a deal which Labour doesn't seem to want to do so...
@@trevorwiley5098
Last 5 Polls on Independence
21st May Ipsos Yes 53% No 47%
27th April Survation Yes 48% No 52%
17th April Yougov Yes 46% No 54%
29th March Survation Yes 47% No 53%
2022 Economic Growth Rate
Scotland 4,9% Finland 2,1%
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Scottish GDP Quarterly Growth Rate Q4 2022 (Annual)
Stats Finland Annual National Accounts 2022
May 2023 Employment Stats
Total Women Men
Scotland 2,683 million 1,323 million 1,359 million
Finland 2,606 million 1,273 million 1,332 million
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Scottish Labour Market Trends May 2023
Stats Finland Labour Force Survey May 2023
Birth Registrations
Scotland Finland =
Q1 2023 14,991 13,800 out-birthed Finland by approx 7,94% or 1191
2022 46,959 44,951 out-birthed Finland by approx 4,28% or 2008
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Stats Finland Vital Population Stats Births
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Free Scottish Baby Box over 250,000 given since 2017
Scottish Child Payment £1000 a year 303,000 parents receiving
Free Early Learning & Childcare 30 hours per week
Free School Meals Primary 1 to 5
Free Bus Travel for Under 22's over 62 million journeys since it started
ScotRail recent fare reduction scheme to £1 for Weans
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Scottish NHS 24 has created a record over 250 new jobs since January.
Plans revealed for Fort William's New Belford Hospital.
Inverness National Treatment Centre opening this Month.
Kirkcaldy National Treatment Centre opened in March.
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Record Year for Heart Transplants by Scotland's NHS.
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UK 4,7% Scotland Capped at 3%
Proposals for Council Tax Increases of upto 100% for Second Homes, Empty Homes and Absentee Owners.
Figures in January showed there were 42,865 long-term empty homes.
The Visitor Levy Scotland Bill introduced to Parliament.
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Cross-Border Caledonian Sleeper being brought into Scots Public Ownership this month by ScotGov.
ScotRail brought into Scots Public Ownership in 2022.
Carstairs Train Station in Lanarkshire reopened on 30th May
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The SNP seems to be headed for the same fate the Bloc Québécois suffered in the 2011 Canadian federal election. It took the Bloc tearing themselves apart from sovereignty ASAP to get back to being electable again at the federal level in Canada.
Whether or not that’s a good comparison (I’m not Canadian fwiw) is for you to interpret, but I see a lot of the same warning signs the Bloc ignored before it was too late.
No, independence hasn't lost popularity. You can see that in separate polling on independence yes/no votes. The situations aren't comparable I don't think.
@@wintermiller4845yeah exactly, voters don’t say no to independence they say no to the SNP
99% of scotland is snp. did that mob u said get indy to
Desperate comparison. And wrong.
Ipsos mori poll 10 days ago showed support for independence at 53% so doesn’t look like it.
That's one poll. The polls tend to bounce around quite a bit from poll to poll, you really need to look across multiple polls to get any true indication.
So far in 2023 there have been 31 polls. All but 5 have "No" ahead (averaging around 5% across all polls). You also have to factor that the polls leading up to the 2014 referendum significantly underestimated support for "No" by around 8%.
@@eljay5009 better late to the party than never. Always good to have an expert in the room
@@keencyclist6134 Not an expert by any stretch - just somebody who can look at and consider more than one data point at a time.
No individual poll taken in isolation will give an accurate picture of what is going on - that's why multiple polls are conducted over time.
Of the polls conducted in 2023 to date - the averages results across all polls are as follows:
Yes - 43% (+- 3.7%)
No - 47% (+- 2.4%)
Undecided - 8% (+-2.6%)
@@eljay5009 you also have to look at the people behind the pollsters who definitely have skin in the unionist game. They frame questions in a certain way to get a desired outcome. They hope that releasing polls which show support for the union will make those that support independence give up, or soft yessers, lose heart. Yet when you look at arguably the most trustworthy, comprehensive and by far the largest and most detailed of all the polls, the British social attitudes survey, the survey in 2022 showed 52% of Scots supported independence. The next one is due in October I think and that’s the one I’ll be paying attention to.
@@keencyclist6134 Interesting take.
Isn't it odd then that prior to the 2014 referendum, the polls accurately predicted the Yes vote to within 1%, yet massively underestimated the No vote (they were about 8% out).
If what you say had any merit - would you not expect the opposite?
Support for Scottish independence isn't tied specifically to the support of one party or another. Party's and politicians can die. But the dream of a free Scotland will never.
As a Scot living here in Scotland I'd just like to say that there's nothing better for Scottish Independance than English people telling us we're not going to get it. Keep it up!
As an English person, whilst I don’t want Scotland to leave I think evacuating a sinking ship is not the worst idea (even if I’m not on the lifeboat), so for your cause I’ll say… you’re not going to get independence.
I'm fed up to the back teeth with the celtic fringe. It's the English who need their independence. The Welsh Scots and Irish can all sod off
As a Scot living in England i'd just like to say hardly anyone down here gives a damn.
if it was a smart person slagging scotland id agree. but idiots. its insulting
@@jamesdeerwood146 whos the ship. england? plus if your english you need us to pay your bills put food on the table. an if your english. why would we ever keep use. about time use walked this earth broke an hungry
It's stunning how gagged British new outlets and public commentators regularly are by the courts. Simply mind-boggling.
God bless the Constitution of the United States and its First Amendment.
Working class opinion.
@@keplermission4947 Ah, you mean the "elites" are completely bought into the oppression of speech? Interesting.
@@keplermission4947 As opposed to the functionless class opinion. 😄
Good thing too. We want the rule of law not rule of newspapers
I do not think it is wise to dismiss Scottish independence completely. Just because the SNP was ascendant yesterday, and is now suffering in the polls, doesn't mean the issue is dead. Ireland's journey from the Act of Union 1800 to independence in 1922 took 122 years. In 50 years from now, I believe it's more probable that Scotland will be independent, than that it would still be part of the UK. I could, of course, be wrong. Predicting the future is a fool's game. But I think it's far too premature to say 2023 is "The End" for Scottish independence...
With the Tories in charge of Westminster, the SNP can collapse every which way without denting support for independence. The SNP is similar to the Tories in one crucial way: they have both been in power for too long. Scotland needs two pro-independence parties.
So they can split the votes between them, and never gain any majority again. Yes that sounds like a excellent idea. Let me guess, You are English?
Needs a conservative populist independence party that can work in coalition with SNP and moderate their extreme left tendencies
@@Tribuneoftheplebs lol stupid
@@Tribuneoftheplebs They already have a Christian fundamentalist wing in house?
@@tt-ew7rx and they are clearly being ignored if things like Nicola trying to allow male rapist into womens prisons is something she thinks she could do
Independence movement is bigger than SNP... brexit has been a great boost gor recruitment of independence enthusiasts
So you wan to stop being ruled by London and instead be ruled by Brussels?
I feel like this is one of those Chinese/Russian bots
@@gebirg1 more brexit mongs rolling out the propaganda
Gebirg a confederation rather than a centralised union
Polls for support have dropped to 39% three times in the last three months compared to a total of zero times the whole of last year. Independence is not popular, especially since ad it says in the video brexit is becoming less of an issue
I find it interesting that she resigned out of nowhere because she's "tired of the job", a move that took everyone by surprise. Then only a handful of weeks later, her and her husband were investigated by the police for "losing" over £600,000. Seems to me like she already knew the money had gone somewhere, realised the police were gonna find out, and decided to ditch the boat quickly. Maybe to protect the greater party, maybe to diminish the impact on her personally or both
she resigned cause that woke backlash from her saying about the guy going into a birds jail. they asked wat do you see him as. male or female. she said rapist. an your either english or a brain dead rangers fan. in 2014 she said were it went it was factually proven. they done it 3 more times to con the stupid. she could take a trillion out the scotish purse. we dont care..at least its going to an actual scottish person.. and scotland and freedom isnt there cause the snp.. they are there cause of us.. fk a party. dont care about the name. all of scotland is indy. call your party anything. we gave them there job. they never gave us anything.
Do you know where baroness Mone put the millions out of the taxpayers pockets during the pandemic? No neither do we. Sort that out before meddling.
Because Sturgeon was a political hardcarry lol
Scottish people deserve independence after Tory shit show for the past 13 years
😂😂
She was a very astute leader who managed to do a lot for the Scottish people with one hand tied behind her back, regardless of party politicts. I've lived through many governments and the only one that has benefitted Scotland was the SNP
She was a deceitful, self-serving arsehole.
Think the SNP needs a politician like Seamor Trout, Alice Shad, Epis Plates, Jane Smelt or Justin Stickleback to be successful again! Not to forget Shane Lamprey.
why. there 99% of scotland. an we dont know english people
First past the post is such a scam on the people. We have preferential voting in Australia, and it's great.
Had the SNP would not go after independence, neither Salmond or Sturgeon would had faced any issues with the english justice, the same justice that let Pinochet get away. You can quote me on that. London is rotten to the core.
I can almost guarantee that support for scottish independence isn't going anywhere take the SNP out of the picture and you'll still see huge support for independence.
Strange how English people don't seem able to see that "independence" is not the same as "SNP".
The end of the SNP, reality or not, does not change someone's desire to be independent.
No is currently leading though, and will increase when the tories leave government. Also people are realising that Scottish trade will be hammered if they join the EU and the rest of the UK is outside of the customs Union. 70% of Scottish imports go to the rest of the UK. Its only going to decrease as more people realise this.
The desire of short-sighted self-destruction.
@@mcr2356 we're not debating the pros and cons of independence are we.
@@TheMarineGamerIGGHQ not relevant to the topic at hand is it.
@@ab-ym3bf Read the title of the video. You also need a political party as the vehicle to action it. This video is fair.
Sorry TLDR, this time there's an obvious bias here. Like people below point out, Independence is not about one party or the other. It is about a people's culture and desire for self determination. A leader has been lost, but that doesn't mean the desire has died with it. The only 'weapon' Westminster have is fear and education. Once people in Scotland learn and educate themselves, the fear will be gone. At the moment an Independence vote would win by around 50-and-a-bit %. But in my opinion it needs to be in the 60s and 70s. Only then the rest of the world will admit 'there's a new nation in the block'. 50 and a bit is a win, yes, but not conclusive enough.
I agree that 60%+ would be conclusive in a referendum.
But that means a very long wait: pro-independence votes showing more than 50% are rare enough now, and are usually followed by 2-3 polls showing unionism above 50%.
Bad news for Scotland-indefinite deadlock and endless constitutional navel-gazing.
Good luck!
If they said independence is strong you would have believed him. If he says it’s not doing well then it is “bias” you Brits are sp@z’s lol .
A few weeks ago I had to travel to Tain for a funeral. I now live in Ireland. Couldn't get a flight to Inverness, the capital of the Highlands.There wasn't any, except via London or Amsterdam!
It was the first time I had flown into Aberdeen in over 25years. Looking out of the window before landing, I saw a Duel-carriageway! Thought great, a good road to Inverness.
How wrong I was! It was the same shitty road I use to travel all those years ago.
Just north of Keith, the road is in bits!
I think to myself, what happened to all the wealth that came out of the North Sea?
London must think, "how dumb are the Scots".
A 🏴 living in 🇮🇪
Yes, the south of England was built on our wealth, the North gained nothing, and Scotland, well, it gained food banks
It was as recent as Tony Blair who redrew the sea borders in England’s favour, with no mandate. An independent Scotland would own fishing and renewable energy rights up the wazoo.
They are even building wind turbines on land in Scotland to export electricity to England. The English do not allow land based wind turbines..
You just follow the skyscrapers - they're not in Aberdeen or Edinburgh.
I'm an Irish Nationalist and in my opinion, the Union will inevitably fall unless there is serious fundamental change. I see a United Ireland by 2035, once that happens I think it'll be only a matter of time before Scottish Indy succeeds.
You must be a Sinn fienner since you probably don’t understand how the economy works
There is no change to be had the English are fascists by their nature and will never cede complete hegemony on power. You as an Irish nationalist should know this.
Agreed people forget that Irish nationalist politics stumbled a number of times all the way up until the late 1900’s early 1910’s with the success in obtaining the plan for home rule until curtailment of the plan due to world war one which leads into the Easter Rising and war of independence.
It's a hard one. If the UK becomes a federalised system with major aconomy even more than US states I feel it will last. If the tories stay in power then these things are more likely. A united Ireland would only happen if there was major devolved powers to the north.
I hope so
“English politics”. There is no English Parliament or English politics, those are UK politicians leading UK parties in the UK Parliament.
Of which 533 are English MP and 59 are Scots MP.
Voters in Scotland are effectively locked out by Voters in England from ever effecting anything.
= Westminster is England's Parliament and England's politics.
Pretty much the england-centric view that slowly erodes support for the union every day 😊
As a SNP voter and in favour of independence I think you’ve hit the nail on the head but would argue independence isn’t dead but merely delayed.
I’d say I’m one of these soft yes voters and thinking of voting Lib Dem or labour at the next general election but I can still see independence happening in the next 20-30 years
I hope for scotlands sake you're wrong.
Exactly independence voters are still there many of them have just switched to labour and lib dem
Hope UK gets partitioned like they did to India.
I can see the whole UK rejoining the EU and shortly after that Scottish independence. As soon as the economic factor is removed by ensuring Scotland and the rUK remain in the same single market the no position is heavily weakened and the sovereignty and politics become the dominant factors which the yes side has the advantage.
Hit what nail.
It's easy to debunk just about every unverified claim in this "post for pay" UA-cam video. I'll prove it with the most damning claim, Scotland's drug deaths being the highest in Europe. There is absolutely no evidence Scotland has the highest number of drug deaths in Europe, because there are no other nations in Europe that post comparable figures. England, for example, only reports recent drug poisonings, which doesn't explain why all four of its major cities are reporting record number of drug related deaths, which has risen year on year. Well done you, accepting unverified claims as fact.
If the SNP have “collapsed”, the Tory party have…?
A recent poll said that 100% of people who believe 3:52 polls are idiots😂😂😂
Perhaps it wasn’t reported on as much as it should’ve been, but for me, I found a lot of people I know a shift started to happen when the decision by the Supreme Court was put down about whether or not the Scottish government have the right to run their own referendum. When we were actually able to see the genuine arguments that the Scottish government had to support its idea that he had the right to run, a referendum - arguments like that Scotland was in a similar situation to regions like Kosovo - it just became laughable.
I don't really get what you mean, does Scotland have the right to secede or not? What is laughable here?
@@Tsuruchi_420 The question is legitimate, but the SNP's submissions to the Supreme Court barely rose to the comical, dismissed unanimously by all the judges
@@FranzBieberkopf so,the answer is "almost definitely not"?
@@Tsuruchi_420 it does not have the right to run a referendum without permission from the Westminster government.
@@Tsuruchi_420 The answer is "Not without the consent of the UK government". That was enshrined in the 1998 Scotland Act, the legal underpinning for the Scottish Parliament-and the SNP voted for that act.
I’m going to borrow the words from a few who voted for the SNP.
Talking about independence and the second ref are fine, but when the party talks about them nonstop for 24/7 causes people to fall asleep.
If they want to keep spreading the word about independence, they need to point out the benefits of leaving the UK.
@@gerardflynn7382 And who's talking about the benefits of remaining in the UK? Nobody, because there are none.
The only folk it sends asleep are already in a stupor of ignorance. The rest of us see that the whole system needs a boot up the arse... and that will only happen with a fresh new start via independence.
taking words from 99% of scotland. good on u skid
Wait.
The leader was first called Salmon and then Sturgeon?
Is there an unspoken requirement that you must be named after a fish to lead the SNP?
The title is so misleading. I don't know if being the most popular party in Scotland by a smaller margin is the same as collapse.
Since when is sunak a 'moderate' he may be quieter then johnson but his politics are more extreme and he is our first oligarch PM.
What utter bollocks
More economically moderate than truss
@Connor Magnall so is a lettuce
I don't think you should call Sunak a moderate considering the policies that he has passed, especially the anti-strike laws, i wouldn't describe as moderate and his various cabinet members. sure he wants to look like one but he clearly isn't.
Labour abstained from the vote on the Tories extending their anti strike bill too Scotland. What are Labour for?
Unfortunately this is an England-centric, reductionist understanding of the link between the SNP and support for independence.
It also totally ignores the huge ideological divide between the English and Scottish electorate.
The UK Government is a neo-liberal, conservative government. It has increased the socioeconomic divide, inequality and let’s not forget totally taken Scotland out the EU without the consent of the people living here (but at same time arguing that the Scottish have no to self-determination AND prevented cross-party supported legislation from royal assent against the will our parliamentary representatives).
Do you really think that the Scottish want to be held ransom by the a government we don’t choose?
The FPTP representatives of Scotland in the UK parliament is still an SNP majority, let’s not forget.
Ultimately in that system, the electorate say overwhelmingly - they support independence.
The SNP has lot internal issues - however - in an independent Scotland, they are not guaranteed to be in Government.
The Scottish people don’t have to vote SNP to want independence. Polls are polls - just samples that change over time. But given the choice, people in Scotland have seen get worse since the NO vote.
Those No voters might just think that trusting ourselves to govern without the interference of a nation that doesn’t align with us anymore might just be worth the gamble. The status quo isn’t doing much and an England-centric Labour Party isn’t going to either.
Alba gu braith 🏴
One question that I think it interesting to ponder is what sort of independence do people want? I think we made a mistake with brexit when we just said 'lets leave' without any indication of what that would look like so what type of independence do scottish people support? Do they still want open borders and open trade with rUK? Do all independence supporters want independence packaged with EU membership? Feels like we have assumed and generalised answers to many questions without actually looking into them.
Independence is International Norm. 195 Independent Nations in the World.
Yes a social union but not political union.
Yes EU Membership if thats what the people want.
I’m sorry but Scotland isn’t looking at England and seeing “relative moderates”. Let’s just put that to bed.
Considering 'relative' in this case means 'relative to Johnson and Truss', why wouldn't they consider Sunak and Starmer 'relative moderates'?
Relative to alternatives in the SNP too. Forbes and Reagan
Any evidence for that? I can prove your wrong on that, the polls don’t lie.
@@raggedcritical because they aren’t seen as moderates relative to wales, to Scotland and to any other country in Western Europe. The only comparisons is that Labour look radically right wing for a Labour Party and the conservatives look radically right wing for a Conservative Party.
I think if you actually talk to Scottish people, you will find that there is one reason that the independence vote has reduced. This scandal killed any feeling of hope. It’s hopeless. Why would anything get better? Everyone in politics is rubbish. Life won’t get better. What’s the point. I think it’s an unfair point of view, not only is the SNP scandal relatively small in comparison to even the smallest Westminster scandals of recent times, but the fact that the police are investigating is a sign that Scottish institutions work. Where there is power, there will be corruption. Scotland seems to have a police force that can handle it. But I digress. This feeling of hopelessness is so acute. Labour and the conservatives have added to this hopelessness, they haven’t reduced it.
@@jameshobson6965 How have Labour added to the hopelessness? They had bugger-all power to affect anything, and according to polling they are the ones gaining on the SNP as it flails about rather than another independence party.
Independence is bigger than any party or person. It's a choice of the people.
And people don't care as much.
What about polls specifically on independence? IPSOS had support for independence at 51% in May? Am I right about this? Other polls seem to put the yes vote at around 44% or so, the same as two years ago? So little change over time.
One recent poll had independence below 40%.
Why are you assuming that SNP and the desire for Independence are the same?
I think your idea of Brexit is not on track as a majority of people now consider brexit is a failure and a mistake
It would be very unwise to underestimate the support for Scottish independence, and indeed the SNP by default, if you opposed them.
your saying that like its athing. were off
All these pro union vids do is further our determination to leave.
Isn't it difficult to be in contempt of court if no one has actually been charged with an offence?
its an english court. there nothing to us
I do not think a desire for independence is necessary linked to any specific party, nor that the popularity of said party is an accurate reflection of said desire for independence.
Um the independence vote is up...though the SNP vote is down...a decoupling has happened....you might have to look into that as it would be interesting.
Look at all the trouble we have had since 2014.... the no voters must feel like total clowns now.
There are many with regrets that's for sure
@Icarus 7c that has already happened in the UK anyway.
People predicted outright economic collapse of Ireland due to independence Éammon De Valera and Bertie Ahern did not help.
I think the issue is competent governance. Scotland would not be so strongly in favor of it if Westminster had been competent. Of course, over the past few years, they haven’t been.
The No Voters are poorer for their own decision.
You really don’t get Scotland we won’t be going back to labour & according to msm the SNP are always on a downturn even when they win every election in Scotland 🙇♀️
Why would you not mention the British Supreme court ruling? they stated we are not in a voluntary union and it would be unlawful to hold any form of independance referendum, or do you not think this has had an effect of support for independance?
"collapsed" is a bit of an exaggeration tbh.
The desire to sever themselves from the control of a country that seems to be actively self-destructive probably hasn't gone anywhere. This is the problem when any political party sees themselves as the standard bearer of a larger movement, public discourse often treats the two as just one easily-labelled group rather than something more nuanced, and the media doesn't help by leaning into it, either as a fear-mongering tactic or a rallying cry.
Ultimately, regardless of what happens, I sincerely hope the Scottish at least get their voices heard democratically (for all the good it has ever done/will ever do) and maybe have a bit less of a terrible time. England may be in a downward spiral but that doesn't mean the rest of the UK needs to join us.
The English are too selfish to ever give the rest of us a day. Colonialist oppressor is your nature !
@Breakthechochamber no 50% of the people in Scotland are against it but when you consider the English that live there it’s less 50% 🤪. The oppressors are always going to vote for their oppressive interests
People should look at the history of Irish nationalism in terms of it advanced politically I.E the slow way
@Breakthechochamber look up the definition of ‘oppression’ and you see quite clearly “unfair authority over” so genius how are England not oppressing Scotland ? Of England wanted an independence referendum they would get it 100% of the time, the same isn’t true for Scotland therefore ‘unfair authority’. That’s just one example 😉
@Breakthechochamber Well, "about 50%" of the vote really doesn't matter much if the other choice gets even slightly more, as we found out the hard way with a certain referendum a while back. As for economic havoc, while I'm genuinely not sure there could be any more havoc right now considering the UK's current position, I know better than to tempt fate nowadays. Unlike the Brexit vote, however, I have a certain amount of faith in the Scottish politicians to at least have some coherent plans of action regardless of how a second independence referendum goes.
It has to be said that all of these arrests ended in release without charge. And that membership has skyrocketed.
Not talked about in the MSM
@@lesleyrobertson5465 Labour membership also rocketed under Corbyn - this didn't stop Labour being crushed in the 2019 election.
It doesn't have to be said.
@@stephenelkington4971 Brexit and the bogus antisemitism nonsense did that.
@@andrewelliott4436 it does as some people just assume guilt. Johnson was fined btw
Look, we just need Wales and Northern Ireland to select South Asian leaders to complete the collection.
I am a strong supporter of the idea that the distinction between ad/sponser & desired content should be extremly firm and explicit.
Agreed I just used a site called fact checker it took me 10 mins to find out it was an Scot Nat site.
wat?
@@walkaboutgla Crivens it's the Broons.
I feel like ignoring why the SNP were so successful in 2007 is maybe overstating the labour appeal in Scotland. There is a realistic limit to how well labour can do in Scotland due to a seeded mistrust of U.K. labour politics in left wing spaces here. These are the ideal conditions for labour and we are still seeing them struggle to take over left wing politics.
they are struggling in left wing spaces because anyone whos read the ford report knows that modern labour is just the red tory-lite party, they dont even support the thing they where named after, labour unions, anymore
That's because Starmer is right wing
you do know you can jump on google. labour is dead next vote cause he shouted indy an turned.. snp are 99% of scottish votes. scotland is not in the uk. were scotland from scotland an were scottish. i know your english cause thats the shxt english news says to morons of england. snp has never lost a voter only doubled
Ha be to inform you there is no taste in Scotland for Labour we are pro EU , Starmer is not. Our general politics is of a socialist basis. That last tiny pro labour vote result was set up to sway us back to them. It won’t work. Just watch.
Great video as always 😊
May I request a video comparing performance metrics on health, education and services across Scotland, England and Wales? Maybe even NI but they haven't had a functional government so I don't think it would be fair.
Thanks again
fx england. fx wales fx northan island. irelands goverment is older than england. wales an northen ireland will be bk to us. if you dont know scotland has the best eduction system in the world best health care in the world. you live in england. an thats with less than 4% of our annual wealth
No there won’t be any vids about that. Mainly because Scotland has a superior healthcare and education system. Next?
get rid of humza josef and replace him with Mhairi Black get her to step down as an MP and get her in to holyrood and watch the surge of support for the SNP surge to higher levels than sturgeon ever took it.
The people found out they are fiddling the money given to them, hide or borrow themoney to spend on what they the SNP want, not for the people as they promise.
Doesnt sound like the Scotland that I live in..... The vast majority of scots I know still want independence and back in to the EU ASAP!!
we call that an echo chamber
@@MrWassup45 You are highly likely from 1 of the 65 other Countries that gained Independence from Westminster.
@@ScottishRoss27 And it was a massive fucking mistake
Why do people think the eu will save them? News flash the eu has moved on and times change. Europe is a basket case with Germany now admitting recession. Also Scotlands economy will not meet the requirements for entry unless it does a Greece and lies about it! There is also currency and the border to consider none of which have an easy answer with no politician coming up with a solution. Beggars belief!
Just because you want it doesn;t mean you will get it.
In other words: SNP still most popular party. independence still very popular.
It's practically economic suicide, just shows how daft people can be that it is still even slightly popular. Reality is that it is an emotional protest vote by low information voters. There's a reason they wanted to extend the vote to 16 year olds.
If the SNP weren't so corrupt and changed their trans bill then they'd get my vote
@@llanieliowe794 Not corrupt and majority of All Parties voted in favour of the GRR Bill.
@@ScottishRoss27 If a partie's leader is purposely not using the finances for that party correctly, and using it to their own benefit, then that's corrupt.. And that's exactly what Sturgeon and her husband did.
Also the trans bill was blocked by the UK government for being so radical and putting women in danger so I think you'll find that not every party agrees with it.
@@llanieliowe794
Any proof?
The next human rights bill Scotland's Parliament is to bring forward is
UN Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women Incorporation Scotland Bill.
Will UKgov block that bill too as like Trans people in Scotland the UKgov won't want to take into account the rights of Women in Scotland when UKgov is legislating ?
In 2021 The UKgov also blocked The UN Right of the Child Incorporation Scotland Act, showing its hand as UKgov did not want to take into account the rights of Children in Scotland when UKGov is legislating.
This is acceptable to you?
NHS crisis??? Where, I live in Scotland and there’s no nhs crisis 😂
Does anyone know how Alba differs from the SNP? They are both pro independence but what policies do they differ on?
The SNP are a devolutionist party and have been since sturgeon took over.
Alba are for total independence.
Essentially the SNPs tactic since the referendum has been to try and build support for independence in the long term. Even when they were denied a referendum, they knew that would happen and it was an opportunity to highlight that in what is supposed to be a nation of equals, a government voted in by England can deny other countries the opportunity to leave.
Alba kind of does the same thing at a smaller scale. They know they'll never be voted in so they pretend that if they were they would immediately demand independence negotiations with London (I believe essentially using the general election as a de facto referendum). But it's grandstanding and just a way to criticise the SNP.
They also have an issue with trans people. Very into 'protecting women,' under the leadership of a man who was barred from being left alone with women civil servants 🤷♀️
@@JoannaSmilesLots Alba: *sides with the absolute majority of the public about gender id reform*
SNPtards: "These people have something against trans people!"
galaxy brain
@@Jonabob87 you are incorrect- but you beat trans folk right?
oh god, they still think they understand scottish politics 😂😂
Labour path to victory has become really easy now as they are guaranteed to win 15-20 seats in Scotland or even more if SNP messes up more
Ipsos Mori Scottish Political Monitor May 2023
Independence Voting Intention
Yes 53% No 47%
Westminster Voting Intention
SNP 41% Greens 3% Labour 29% Torie 17% Liberal 6%
Holyrood Constituency 1st Vote Voting Intention
SNP 42% Greens 4% Labour 28% Torie 17% Liberal 7%
yes because scottish seats have always determined the outcome for westminster elections, they couldnt possibly have only mattered in labour minority governments which were then overturned via snap elections!
Starmer isn't trusted in England and much less in Scotland, labour may gain a small amount but at the cost of the tories, people no longer see labour as part of Scotland
@@firebyrd437
Why is Starmers Labour party in coalition with Tories in Local Councils all over Scotland?
@@legopenguin9
Labour have only been UK Government 24 years of last 68 years.
36% of the time. Labour have not been in government 64% of the time.
let's hope this is the full end of this independence that no one anymore wants beside fools.
Stuff Scottish Independence stuff snp voted no proud to be British FIRST 💯🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
As an Englishman, and once proud of it, Scottish independence can’t come soon enough. I’m sure they would prove handsomely that the Union is no more than a shackle.
Not the end, Kier Starmer is to the right of the SNP so if he comes into power and does not solve young peoples problems i.e housing then Indy will still have widespread support.
Housing is a Devolved matter in Scotland and nothing to do with politicians in England.
@Breakthechochamber Snp are more social democracy, in line with the majority of the people in Scotland, as its a left leaning voting nation.
@Breakthechochamber
In 2012 the Torie English Government abolished England's 9 Regional Economic Development Agencies.
Scotgov established South of Scotland Enterprise Agency in 2020.
Scotgov established Scottish National Investment Bank in 2020.
Scottish Development International
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Scottish Government's Funded Innovation Centres.
Newly opened BioSciences Innovation Centre in Aberdeen.
Newly opened National Robotarium Innovation Centre in Edinburgh.
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National Manufacturing Institute Scotland in Renfrewshire.
Tech Scaler Hubs in Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Dundee, Stirling, Inverness & Dumfries.
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2022 Economic Growth Rate
Scotland 4,9% Finland 2,1%
Source
Scottish GDP Quarterly Growth Rate Q4 2022 (Annual)
Stats Finland Annual National Accounts 2022
May 2023 Employment Stats
Total Women Men
Scotland 2,683 million 1,323 million 1,359 million
Finland 2,606 million 1,273 million 1,332 million
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Scottish Labour Market Trends May 2023
Stats Finland Labour Force Survey May 2023
Birth Registrations in Quarter 1 2023
Scotland Finland =
Q1 2023 14,991 13,800 out-birthed Finland by approx 7,94% or 1191
2022 46,959 44,951 out-birthed Finland by approx 4,28% or 2008
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National Records of Scotland Births
Stats Finland Vital Population Stats Births
Scottish Maternity Grant £700 The Highest in the UK
Free Scottish Baby Box over 250,000 given since 2017
Scottish Child Payment £1000 a year 303,000 parents receiving
Free Early Learning & Childcare 30 hours per week
Free School Meals Primary 1 to 5
Free Bus Travel for Under 22's over 62 million journeys since it started
ScotRail recent fare reduction scheme to £1 for Weans
UK Bedroom Tax Fulll Mitigated by ScotGov
Private Rent Rises Capped at 3%
Free University Tuition too Scots since 2008
Edinburgh International Film Festival saved by ScotGov in 2022
Cross-Border Caledonian Sleeper being brought into Scots Public Ownership this month by Snp ScotGov.
ScotRail brought into Scots Public Ownership in 2022.
Rail Fares (2 adults open return)
£34.40 NorthernRail Liverpool Lime St to Manchester Piccadilly
£28.40 ScotRail Glasgow Queen St to Edinburgh Waverley
= 17,5% lower
New Fife Levenmouth Rail Link in construction
New East Linton Rail Station in East Lothian in construction
Carstairs Train Station in Lanarkshire reopened on 30th May
New Inverness Airport Rail Station in February 2023
Aberdeen rail station redevelopment opened in December 2022
Perthshire rail freight hub opened in 2022
Reston station in Borders opened in 2022
Glasgow rail engineering depot opened in 2022
1989 Torie Privatisation of England's 9 regional water companies.
Malaysian shareholders own Wessex Water.
US shareholders own in Severn Trent, United Utilities, South West Water.
US & German shareholders own Yorkshire Water.
Chinese, UAE, Kuwaiti & Aussie shareholders own Thames Water.
Hong Kong shareholders own Northumbria Water.
1994 Scottish Water Referendum
Audit Scotland Scots Water 2021 Accounts
Page 5 Public Revenue Page 7 Public Net Assets
Water Charges Average
England £448
Scotland None Directly as are included within Council Tax.
Doncaster Airport was left to close in 2022
Plymouth City Airport was left to close in 2011
Sheffield City Airport was left to close in 2008
Wick Airport was saved by ScotGov in 2021
Prestwick Airport was saved by ScotGov in 2013
Dundee Airport was saved by ScotGov in 2007
Publicly Owned Highlands & Islands Airports Accounts 2022
Page 38 Public Revenue 41 Public Assets
Publicly Owned Prestwick Airport Insider Article 15th November ''Prestwick Airport posts Profit''
Publicly Owned Calmac Ferries is the Largest Ferry Operator in the UK with
Fleet of 35, serves over 50 Ports, Employs over 1700 People.
Bristol Abels Shipyard was left to close in 2016
PortsmouthsBae Shipyard was left to close in 2014
Lowesofts Brookes Shipyard was left to close in 2009
Ferguson Shipyard recently won contract with UK Navy's Frigates,
MV Glen Sannox inside being fitted,
MV Helen Rice, MV Kallista Helen, ACB Argymak built since 2019
Ferguson Shipyard on the Clyde was saved by ScotGov in 2019
Bradford's Marshall Bakers collapsed in April
Hull's Conquest of Bread Bakery collapsed in April
Birmingham's Ten Four Bakery collapsed in April
Wirral's Olawa Bakery collapsed in March
Bristol's Assembly Bakery collapsed in February
3rd March Glasgow Bakery Morton Rolls collapsed .
17th March Glasgow's Morton Rolls brought back into business with support of ScotGov.
a Grimsby Seafood Factory was left to close in 2022
a Lanarkshire Seafood Factory was saved in 2022
Publicly Owned Scottish Forestry took over a leading Timber Distributor in Northern England in 2018, for enlarged group & to channel Scottish Timber firms into taking over supply in Northern England.
The Only Aluminium Smelter in England was left to close in 2012
The Only Aluminium Smelter in Wales was left to close in 2009
Fort William Aluminium Smelter saved by ScotGov in 2016,
Giving Scotland advantages over The UK.
Scunthorpe, Redcar & Hartlepool Steel works were left to close in 2015
2 Lanarkshire steel works were saved by ScotGov in 2016
This video relies all too heavily on polls. The SNP’s ‘popularity’ according to left-wing media does not speak to the will of the people of Scotland to have their country recognised as an independent state. Video title is misleading. Now mark my words because independence is coming whether the English like it or not. 🏴
He can’t feel what’s in the air from his flat in London
Alba is the Scottish Gaelic word for Scotland. It's not pronounced how it looks but is pronounced Al-a-buh 😒
Speaking as a 'soft' voter,' who hangs around with less soft soft voters (if that makes sense) I think Starmer will be the (rather flat) last 'Hurrah' of the union.
A lot of people are holding off on pulling their independence trigger to see if Labour can show the union is capable of significant reform. If (ie when) Starmer proves incapble of any/enough significant changes but ends betraying a Tony Blair 2.0 'Tory-lite' quality, and specifically if he can't introduce voting reform (STV/proportional representation) and begin the process economic emancipation (legal guarantees on ubi/salaries and secure homeownership) then an increasing number of people under the age of 40 will simply question the point in being part of a regressive and harmful union that is no longer fit for purpose.
Without significant change at Westminster - and soon - it remains a question of 'when' not 'if' independence will happen, regardless of what this months polls say. There are simply bigger forces and more visceral issues at work.
I look forward to the Scot’s leaving. The English will feel sad at first and then when we get all our money back that we give away to Scotland we will be absolutely chuffed and wonder why didn’t we kick you out decades ago.
@@Witnessmoo Uh huh... Cool story bro but the 3 Billiy goats gruff rang and want the tired troll narrative of the little-Englander with a chip on their shoulder back.
@@Witnessmoo I think you'll miss the 75 billion pounds that the oil companies are contributing...much coming from the North Sea. Let alone the 40 billion that Scotland already hands over to Westminster!
@Breakthechochamber You're probably right in some regards, certainly I don't think the SNP are supported due a perception of them being radical lefties by any means, but at least they can claim they already have moved some way towards some degree of greater economic emancipation (tution fees, pharmacy first, widening access free(er) public transport). These are seen as a step in the right direction.
Nor do they use FPTP in the Scottish elections. That in turn means for anyone with more left-ish senibilities, the greens can act as a force to temper any centerist tendencies of the executive. Their electoral results are more democratic, and frankly given the pantomime at Westminster, seen as more responsible despite however this financial fiasco turns out in the end.
I would not discount the roots of a lot of the boomer/gen-x SNP support & strength come from ex-labour voters (and indeed politicians who jumped ship due to Blair) who grew up diametrically opposed to Thatcher/New Labour neoliberal economic policies and the chaos they have ultimately unleashed on the uk economy.
Also, for a variety of reasons, a significant majority of even very soft SNP voters under the age of 50 are likely to have a stronger pro-EU than a Blairite/New Labour counterpart in England.
@@somecuriosities Scotland has always been a left leaning country. The SNP has introduced left leaning policies whilst having one hand tied behind its back. The SNP is a broad church, but it's the only real party of independence that's big enough to vote for if you favour independence. Labour under Starmer isn't going to change anything because he's certainly not left wing. Looking at what he says and how he's stopping left wing candidates from being even on the long list as candidates I'd say he's pretty right wing.
Independence is a cause that once done will dissolve the SNP and new Scottish parties will have to form
We have been united for so long that Scots, English, Irish and Welsh blood is well intermixed, it can not be separated out.
No one is trying to separate blood, we are separating political power.
Independence movements don't live or die on electoral success or failure. Time is the main decider of those.
What has happened in the last 12 months that would make a nationalist turn into a unionist? Boris Johnson’s disgraceful behaviour and downfall? Truss crashing the economy in a few weeks? The realisation that brexit is worse than expected? The Australians laughing at how bad the trade deal is for Britain?
I don’t see any realistic reason that anyone who wanted Scottish Independence a year or two ago would now feel differently. Quite the opposite. If anything, their conviction that Scotland is no longer compatible with England would most likely be reinforced.
But the polling took a very sudden turn and dirt about Sturgeon’s husband was brought to light. It looks like a hatchet job on the independence movement. A concerted assault by the British media. Keep telling people they don’t want something and eventually enough will start to believe it.
The “stabilisation” of English politics is a laughable excuse. It’s still populated by the same cretins and liars. Brexit is still constantly in the news for all the wrong reasons. The Conservatives have another year to run and Starmer has been making all the wrong noises on the EU for Scottish voters.
I suspect that the SNP will bounce back from what is an artificial trough and people will be confused because the received “wisdom” was built on sand.
Aye.
Yet another futile attempt to undermine the desire for Scottish independence.
@@Breakthechochamberwhat facts? Yes ultimately as he said wait and see.....
@Breakthechochamber Naive comment!. SNP voters/members are no more or less reluctant to take criticism of their party that members of other parties.
You can't undermine a desire that has been withering since it's birth.
If we don't learn from the past we a destined to repeat it, 100 years ago Ireland left the UK, but the reason has been forgotten, Ireland was not treated or viewed as equal and treated very badly in the UK and it became untenable to remain, not enough changed over the 100 years until now, simply looking at Northern Ireland shows that, but Scotish opinion also shows that, if the UK doesn't change how it treats its smaller members then they may try to leave again, not because they want to but because they have no choice but to
Wtf are you talking about? Scotland basically has autonomy where they run all the key parts of their country like education, healthcare and social policies AND on top of that they get to send MPs to the U.K. parliament that basically legislates England! So they even have a say on what we do in England!
On top of that they have 30% more funding per person despite actually paying far less tax per person than England!
How they getting the bad deal here?
What a load of sh**. Scotland leaving would be beneficial for the other home nations as they are designated far more tax revenue than they pay, more or less as a bribe to stay in the UK.
Correct to a degree but it must be pointed out that Ireland was never a willing partner in the UK, union with Britain was gradually and forcibly imposed on Ireland against the will of the native Irish and then it was formalised by the Act Of Union in 1801 by Anglo Irish and English gentry.
Scotland and Ireland are completely incomparable. Ireland was a colony and Scotland is a willing member.
@@Witnessmoo if you believe the bull you are spouting ask yourself this . Why is Westminster fighting so hard to keep it . Simple angerland gets 60% of all Scots taxes even with Barnet Scots are billed 8% of all major angerland projects IE cross rail ,HS2;, M25 , when angerland is prepared to keep all its dangerous stuff IE nuclear waste nuclear armaments .and subs its own land you can argue untill then I advise you go do some research to see who is being ripped off
It's just a matter of time till Scotland is independent.
As a 3rd gen scottish immigrant in canada i support scotlands wishes, independent or union, its a beautiful and strong country which will make the best choice for its citizens.
Lol
One point also was that some Scottish people wanted true independence from the UK and the EU which was indifferent from the SNP who simply were switching control to a bigger authority and seeing Sturgeon as simply a leader wanting to go down in history as taking Scotland out of the UK.
EU is more modern and a federation not centralised in 1 nation like UK
@@ScottishRoss27 Probably very true and looking at the amount of corruption and the state of things at this present time. Hope we never become like the warmongering USA with there lobbying system which is openly exploited by the wealthy organisations for corruption.
were smarter than you. voting snp greens alba gives us indy. joining eu gives us world court law to jail the english. we never voted snp uther than indy.use idiots keep on saying the people we gave the jobs to for indy. we dont care who. we only care wat. we in scotland hate english with a passion
a day with a video from tldr is a good day
The SNP? Has anyone been prosecuted yet?
I don't believe so
This strikes me as a ‘we wish it was true’ signalling that the will for ScottishIndependence is waning. If you live in Scotland you will know, that desire for it is still extremely high. Polls NEVER show how popular it is. Strange. Because its popularity has been so extreme that us Scots continue to vote in the majority for the snp who is the main pro Indy party. Why do others try to damp this fact down? Is it because they fear it? Go figure.
Membership numbers up polling at 41% . They don't seem to be struggling much.
I remember when Labour activists used to cite the rise in Labour's membership numbers under Jeremy Corbyn as a sign that they would wipe the floor with the Tories at the 2017 and 2019 General Elections. It didn't quite pan out that way.
Aye they only lost 30k members. no big deal.
@@Jonabob87 Labour lost 91,000 members last year
@@Scruffed Because England is mostly a right wing voting nation.
Since 1955 Labour has been UK Government 24 years of the last 68 years.
Failure short term party and with England mostly right wing
As a Scottish independence supporter, who lives just outside of Glasgow. I feel that there was a slight bit of bias here, first if the Scottish Parliament was more like the UK one with Full first past the post then the SNP would have been even more dominant than they already are, 56/129 seats use the d’hount system meaning that it’s more equally distributed, the Scottish Parliament was not designed to have majorities but the SNP were so popular that it had both an SNP and pro independence Majorities, (If you include the Scottish greens), this leads to another point where was the talk about the greens in all of this, it is as if they didn’t exist on the graphic about distribution of seats no green logo, on the data about voting intention, no greens. I do enjoy the videos on this channel, however I feel that this video was a bit bias, “the SNP collapse” when in reality they are still projected to be the biggest party in the Scottish Parliament or the party with the highest vote share.
And that is to exclude the 2% for Alba!
There is alway a bias on TLDR.
@@peterebel7899 There is. That's why I ignore what they have to say!
Not so sure it's bias as much as London bubble.
As has been pointed out, falling support for the SNP is not falling support for Independence. People who support independence are going to vote for the other two independence parties - the Greens and Alba, not the red or blue Tories. In Scotlands PR system is this a much worse result for the Unionists than people voting SNP. Had the independence movement voted SNP 1 - any other independence party 2, in the last election Labour and the Conservatives would of be been crushed, with there being about 115 independence seats with the red and blue tories on 15 seats combined. Absolutely crushing defeat.
So thinking the collapse of the SNP leads to the demise of independence is wishful thinking. Getting excited about about an SNP collapse is very much a Unionist case of 'be careful what you wish for'
Many independence/Yes voters which also voted SNP just go towards other independence parties which have a much clearer view and protocol to achieve independence such as Independence for Scotland Party, Alba Party, Solidarity etc... So just because the Scottish National Party loses seats doesn't mean people aren't determined any longer about secession from the British establishment.
It's absolutely disgusting that the UK calls itself a democracy just because it held two referendums in the 2010s, meanwhile, the Swiss 🇨🇭 had over 250 referendums since the year 2000.
Indeed, Switzerland alond with Lichtenstein 🇭🇹 are the only two nations on earth where their own citizens benefit from the luxury of direct democracy, means PEOPLE GET TO VOTE FOR THEIR OWN LAWS!