The New Tory Leadership Election Explained

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    In this video, we’re going to have a look at the plan for the Tory leadership election, when it’s likely going to happen, what this will mean for the party as a whole, and who is currently in a good position to win it.
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  • @stingersplash
    @stingersplash 17 днів тому +1054

    Considering the fact that the last time the conservative party members had a vote on who should lead them and be prime minister they chose Liz Truss should tell you they are going to pick the worst possible candidate.

    • @WhoMadeThisBurger69
      @WhoMadeThisBurger69 16 днів тому

      Crazy isn’t it? How out of touch they are?
      Our political class is made up of the elite, ask em how much milk costs, they’ll go mad.

    • @bob1234881
      @bob1234881 16 днів тому

      Yep. Gone from 0.5 million members to 20k, leaving just the further right wing so they can try to fight reform. Time we get the lib dems into opposition whole the tories take out reform.

    • @kobirelf97
      @kobirelf97 16 днів тому +32

      Well I guess they can pick the worst if they want we don't have to worry now

    • @lif6737
      @lif6737 16 днів тому +4

      God bless them

    • @citizen_wayne
      @citizen_wayne 16 днів тому +20

      @@kobirelf97 Good feeling, isn't it?

  • @transvestosaurus878
    @transvestosaurus878 17 днів тому +1121

    I'm the worst!
    _No, I'm the worst!_
    NO, I'M THE WORST

    • @michaelweiske702
      @michaelweiske702 17 днів тому +26

      "If I can't be the best, I can sure as hell be the worst!"

    • @jordanjames2956
      @jordanjames2956 17 днів тому +30

      No they can always point at Farage and say he is the worst.

    • @elitefencer777
      @elitefencer777 16 днів тому

      Quick, someone make Liz a peer! If she's eligible, she can put that matter to bed quick enough.

    • @romaimparatoru4905
      @romaimparatoru4905 16 днів тому +2

      it is nice to see tories being more inclusive at least

    • @marcosamell96
      @marcosamell96 16 днів тому

      ​@@jordanjames2956 the tories/labour could bankrupt the UK beyond salvation and some people would still think Farage is worse cause he says mean things

  • @lordbusiness-qs4ok
    @lordbusiness-qs4ok 17 днів тому +424

    I know the script was probably written a day ago but Bob Blackman has been elected chair of the 1922.

    • @MackeyDeeez
      @MackeyDeeez 17 днів тому +74

      Well, it does make sense they would go for a diversity pick

    • @seadrown6252
      @seadrown6252 16 днів тому +9

      @@MackeyDeeez 😂

    • @garethaethwy
      @garethaethwy 16 днів тому

      Came here to say just this, however didn't they manage to fûçk that up too, with the whips and the committee giving different meeting times/locations to MPs leading to confusion and cos-play action doll and Penfold impersonator Francois exploding in gammonrage because he missed the vote?

    • @fragfmgill
      @fragfmgill 16 днів тому

      Bob Blackman is a totally non entity. nobody knows who he is.

    • @globalistgamer6418
      @globalistgamer6418 16 днів тому +24

      "We should get Liz's chancellor, what was his name again?"

  • @markc7884
    @markc7884 17 днів тому +646

    did the desk break or are you just chillin after this election result 😄

  • @FozzQuaker
    @FozzQuaker 17 днів тому +350

    2:32 If you pause the video hold a QR Code Scanner to Mrs Sunak you'll be redirected to Sky TV subscription page

    • @SongokuJidai
      @SongokuJidai 17 днів тому

      Wtf is that dress, she looks like a Bioshock Infinite NPC

    • @guydreamr
      @guydreamr 16 днів тому +8

      Platinum

    • @AverageDovahGaming
      @AverageDovahGaming 16 днів тому +16

      That's one of the best comments ever

    • @jonrolfson1686
      @jonrolfson1686 16 днів тому

      Sometimes women who are timelessly good looking at Akshata Murty’s level will choose to sartorially actualize ‘this old thing.’ It may well be that MS Murty’s bold choice of the Razzle Dazzle dress was emphatically meant to say ‘I’ve got him and he’s got me,’ and ‘You folks will have to get by with your own choices.’ The genuine grin on MS Murty’s face as she walked away from Number 10 was not that of a woman who was struggling with disappointment.

    • @ulyssesgrant4324
      @ulyssesgrant4324 16 днів тому +1

      @@jonrolfson1686 She and Sunak are both younger couple for politics and Tories struggles, along with other problems blamed on her husband. Who wouldn't want to leave. Same thing probably going to happen to Starmer and his wife, so forth.

  • @battlep0t
    @battlep0t 16 днів тому +25

    If Kemi Badenoch and Suella Braverman are your leadership frontrunners you might as well call it a day and settle in for 10 years in opposition.

  • @Fishpasta4
    @Fishpasta4 17 днів тому +32

    The revolving door of the Tory leadership keep on spinning.

  • @mix3k818
    @mix3k818 17 днів тому +127

    Truss and Sunak being the last two is almost hysterical, until you realize they led the country already.

    • @ulyssesgrant4324
      @ulyssesgrant4324 16 днів тому +6

      I Don't get the hate for Sunak, I understand Truss. But At least Sunak looked like he tried to do the job.

    • @otakuofmine
      @otakuofmine 16 днів тому +24

      @@ulyssesgrant4324 excuse me? have you listen to any of his unhinged ramblings or deeds (like blocking scottish law as a power grab)? he is a miserable hateful goblin to put it politely.
      Truss is "just" incompetent.

    • @greenredblue
      @greenredblue 16 днів тому +8

      ​@@otakuofmine Sunak is at least playing to character though. He is "competent" by the standards of the Tories. And at least there's a vague relationship between what he says he wants and his policies.
      Truss was entirely detached from reality, had a plan to destroy the government faster than Guy Fawkes, and was incapable of learning from her failures.
      It's reasonable to hate Sunak for what he says and believes, but Truss was a full-on mental patient.

    • @battlep0t
      @battlep0t 16 днів тому

      @@ulyssesgrant4324 £750m of government contracts offered to his wife's company and wanted to bring back national service

    • @Bushflare
      @Bushflare 16 днів тому +1

      @@otakuofmine
      Why is it that people who criticise others for being hateful do so with the most indulgently hateful language? It's such a self-report.

  • @lordbusiness-qs4ok
    @lordbusiness-qs4ok 17 днів тому +91

    5:43 Badenoch survived the general election, not the leadership election

    • @TVIDS123
      @TVIDS123 17 днів тому +6

      They misspelled "requirements" at 5:01 too...

    • @elitefencer777
      @elitefencer777 16 днів тому

      There's no time

    • @jimbob5144
      @jimbob5144 16 днів тому

      Surprised you haven't also seen that the period for Priti Patel and Suella Braverman's period as Home Secretary is the wrong way round.

  • @Cojasvim
    @Cojasvim 17 днів тому +77

    my bro cosplaying as a speaker stand at 3:13 doesn't seem to be having a good time

    • @mark27432
      @mark27432 16 днів тому

      He looks straight out of peaky blinders

    • @okmujnyhb
      @okmujnyhb 16 днів тому +1

      Sans speaker, he looks more like an extra from Oliver Twist

    • @CosmicTeapot
      @CosmicTeapot 16 днів тому +9

      Bro wanted to become House Speaker but forgot to read the job description.

  • @deadbushinc.5105
    @deadbushinc.5105 17 днів тому +114

    5:43 ‘Badenoch did survive the leadership election’ lol

    • @PrawnAddiction
      @PrawnAddiction 17 днів тому +1

      Typo

    • @lloydgush
      @lloydgush 16 днів тому

      She's the best.

    • @abstraqtphilosophy7357
      @abstraqtphilosophy7357 16 днів тому +3

      ​@@lloydgushis she an immgrnt? 😂😂😂

    • @lloydgush
      @lloydgush 16 днів тому +1

      @@abstraqtphilosophy7357 irrelevant, she's based.

    • @abstraqtphilosophy7357
      @abstraqtphilosophy7357 16 днів тому +8

      @@lloydgush so there are exceptions? If those immgrnts coming by boats to the UK become based, will you welcome them with open hands?

  • @istherenofreename
    @istherenofreename 16 днів тому +7

    What have Braverman and Patel really done? All I remember is they shouted loudly about small boats, and yet utterly failed to do anything about it.

  • @OenopionOenopion
    @OenopionOenopion 17 днів тому +74

    Neigel Farage is a back bencher who will need to be called upon by the Speaker in order to ask Kier Starmer any questions. How often does anyone think that Farage will show up at Parliament to sit on the back benches in the hopes that he is called on to ask one question from time-to-time? Bottom line, Reform UK is not leading the opposition and will not be holding Labour to account.

    • @TheWebstaff
      @TheWebstaff 16 днів тому +3

      And that's why Nigels going to conservatives to be party leader.

    • @billpugh58
      @billpugh58 16 днів тому +13

      @@TheWebstaffNigel? He is Farage the grifter to most of us!

    • @KuntaKinta-u8s
      @KuntaKinta-u8s 16 днів тому +1

      @@billpugh58
      Kunta say you have very small brain 🌚

    • @KuntaKinta-u8s
      @KuntaKinta-u8s 16 днів тому

      Kunta say start at back finish at front 🌚

    • @silvershocknicktail6638
      @silvershocknicktail6638 16 днів тому +14

      Yeah he never did his fucking job as an MEP, he was just there to grift. As if this will be any different.

  • @monsterhogan
    @monsterhogan 17 днів тому +148

    Really love TLDR across all channels but this new format without a desk really worsens the experience. Would really like to see the old format back!

    • @brrfanta
      @brrfanta 17 днів тому +9

      Why does it matter?

    • @crazycjk
      @crazycjk 17 днів тому +48

      ​@@brrfanta appearance always matters in video media. You don't expect a news channel to be presented by someone leaning forwards on their knees with polaroids on the bare brick wall next to them

    • @Suscida
      @Suscida 17 днів тому +8

      Looks super amateur and they have been producing videos long enough that they should know this

    • @sexykevytyler
      @sexykevytyler 17 днів тому

      The sound quality is better, and that makes it a better experience.

    • @Optimus-Prime-Rib
      @Optimus-Prime-Rib 17 днів тому

      @@crazycjkthis.

  • @gordonstrong5232
    @gordonstrong5232 16 днів тому +7

    The words deckchairs, shuffling and Titanic leap to mind.

  • @shanghaidiscovery2664
    @shanghaidiscovery2664 17 днів тому +17

    The potential lineup of tory leadership candidates looks like the Adams family

  • @KrisRogos
    @KrisRogos 17 днів тому +9

    Several figures have been campaigning for the position since the day Sunak entered office, if not earlier. That is part of the party's problem; they never united behind him, and there is little chance of doing so behind whoever is selected as his replacement.

  • @jackochoko5469
    @jackochoko5469 17 днів тому +39

    Bring back the desk

  • @user-ib9ky2jo9h
    @user-ib9ky2jo9h 17 днів тому +253

    Let’s hope badenoch gets in and makes the Tory’s unelectable for a generation

    • @vispian7688
      @vispian7688 17 днів тому +46

      Patel, Badenoch and Braverman are all unelectable tbf and maybe Badenoch is the most out of all of them

    • @randomguy-tg7ok
      @randomguy-tg7ok 17 днів тому +5

      Tories*

    • @BoyeeSmudger
      @BoyeeSmudger 17 днів тому +7

      Hopefully they will carry on a bicker like they have for the last 7ish years. Hopefully the party members will then vote in the next nut job just to make their time in opposition a little longer.
      Wouldn't employ a single tory, chocolate tea pots the lot of them.

    • @misalignedmisanthropist
      @misalignedmisanthropist 17 днів тому

      ​@@BoyeeSmudgerAt this point, Farage as Tory leader is more electable than any of them

    • @Godonstilts
      @Godonstilts 17 днів тому +4

      @@randomguy-tg7ok Stories*

  • @dubliam8064
    @dubliam8064 17 днів тому +34

    6:07 you got the dates the wrong way around

  • @irwinsaltzman979
    @irwinsaltzman979 17 днів тому +9

    1. There should have been an election after Johnson stepped down. 2. When Truss sunk, Sunak had no political support of anyone.

  • @adamcummings20
    @adamcummings20 16 днів тому +3

    Lee Anderson looks more like a security guard than a politician

  • @chrissmith8773
    @chrissmith8773 17 днів тому +35

    The new chairman of the 1922 was elected yesterday. Bob Blackman.

    • @markberryman238
      @markberryman238 17 днів тому

      I thought this would be the rules for the election that Bob put out oh well looks like tldr is well late on this one...

    • @bzuidgeest
      @bzuidgeest 16 днів тому +2

      They are a small group, sometimes the news cycle catches up with production. That cannot be helped.

    • @markberryman238
      @markberryman238 16 днів тому +3

      @@bzuidgeest I know I'm being a little bit snarky they were on point during the election and quite frankly I'm not surprised half the team aren't on holiday right now all completely broken down with exhaustion I can't blame them for being a little behind on this one

  • @Chris-rp9df
    @Chris-rp9df 16 днів тому +4

    The tories have so few mp's there's enough time for every one of them to be party leader for 2 weeks before the best election comes round 😂

  • @Dzztzt
    @Dzztzt 16 днів тому +9

    That head of lettuce is looking pretty likely to finally pull it off.

  • @31Blaize
    @31Blaize 16 днів тому +51

    Respectable is not a word I have ever associated with Farage.

    • @Bushflare
      @Bushflare 16 днів тому +1

      True, but 'electable' certainly ought to be and it looks to only be getting more relevant over the next few years.

    • @alexlehrersh9951
      @alexlehrersh9951 16 днів тому

      Cry Labour sheep

    • @moddalgaming3619
      @moddalgaming3619 16 днів тому +1

      Thats ur problem

    • @texas975
      @texas975 16 днів тому

      Because he cares about his people,its obvious you would not associate

    • @31Blaize
      @31Blaize 16 днів тому

      @@texas975 This is the guy that said the US election was his priority until Trump was found guilty and he sniffed an opportunity back here. Sure. Caring.

  • @kczechowicz
    @kczechowicz 17 днів тому +29

    Bring back the desk!

  • @imtired1696
    @imtired1696 16 днів тому +9

    A respectable 5 members. Lol 😂

    • @TheTiffanyAching
      @TheTiffanyAching 16 днів тому +3

      "Respectable" Lol 😂

    • @Skyline25
      @Skyline25 16 днів тому +1

      they got more votes than the lib dems

    • @BritishRepublicsn
      @BritishRepublicsn 16 днів тому +4

      That is quite a lot, relative to the fact that they only had 1 before the election

    • @hypotheticlz
      @hypotheticlz 15 днів тому +1

      I challenge you to run for MP next election. If you get over 50 votes I’ll be very impressed, let alone get yourself and 4 others elected to parliament.

  • @theconqueringram5295
    @theconqueringram5295 16 днів тому +3

    At this point, leading the Tories is a fate worse than death.

  • @2Links
    @2Links 17 днів тому

    hearing you mention Graham giving me flashbacks to the constant "he hasn't even told his wife" comment lol

  • @03Epicman
    @03Epicman 17 днів тому +46

    Still not sold on this sofa vibe, a bit of a step back I think tbh

    • @wibbliams
      @wibbliams 16 днів тому +1

      Theyre moving offices

  • @dereks1264
    @dereks1264 16 днів тому +2

    In the leadership debates each candidate "...tried to brand their colleagues as unfit to lead the country." Well, they were certainly right about that --- all of them were unfit.

  • @arystanakmolinskii9226
    @arystanakmolinskii9226 17 днів тому +12

    Did something happen to your studio?

  • @mysteriousfox88
    @mysteriousfox88 17 днів тому +7

    rats cannibalizing each other

  • @spadegaming6348
    @spadegaming6348 16 днів тому +1

    Love the video kept me invested.

  • @armanadanis6003
    @armanadanis6003 16 днів тому +3

    Rishi sunak so far was not that bad as Lis Truss and Boris as I believe this two was actually the main cause why the Tory Lost badly in the election.Personally i believe rishi is counted one of the best in the conservative and should hold on as a Tory leader and be the opposition why not.

  • @Kruhn
    @Kruhn 17 днів тому +1

    I liked the news desk look of TLDR. I'll get used to the couch look.

  • @NatalieLawrence
    @NatalieLawrence 16 днів тому +2

    If the electorate thought Sunak had a repellent personality, wait until they see more of Badenoch. Same for Bully Patel.

  • @guavaguy4397
    @guavaguy4397 16 днів тому +2

    0:30 say what you want about UK politics, but you can't say they don't do it in a pretty building.

  • @Yacovo
    @Yacovo 16 днів тому

    Thanks for the video

  • @DavidSmith-gx5mu
    @DavidSmith-gx5mu 17 днів тому +4

    This is going to be a shitshow

  • @greyghost2492
    @greyghost2492 16 днів тому +1

    playing musical chairs on the deck of the titanic...

  • @henreereeman8529
    @henreereeman8529 15 днів тому +1

    4:56 requirments lol

  • @phalanx9005
    @phalanx9005 16 днів тому +1

    Babe wake up, TLDR news have a new set.

  • @Afterthoughtbtw
    @Afterthoughtbtw 16 днів тому +3

    Leadership elections don't automatically have to cause damaging in fighting. It's just that the Tories have forgotten how to do any campaigning which doesn't involve attacking their rivals. Best I can guess is it's going to end up being Badenoch or Tugendhat. Don't see any of the right wing MPs beating Badenoch given how much more competent she has been than them, and Tugendhat could get the support purely by being a centrist if they are wise enough to remember that you only ever win elections from the centre in the UK.
    Probably the biggest thing in each of their favour is I don't think either have particularly been in any scandals - a rare thing for a Tory MP nowadays.

  • @stephenclark9917
    @stephenclark9917 16 днів тому +2

    Reform will get one PMQ every 4 weeks - if they are lucky. They are a small party.

  • @den_den_9248
    @den_den_9248 17 днів тому +24

    he is still kidnapped

  • @SophieLayton-ww9uv
    @SophieLayton-ww9uv 17 днів тому +40

    "They need to elect a Chairman of the 1922 Committee" -- this was done yesterday, this video's already out of date

    • @jamesslater9098
      @jamesslater9098 17 днів тому +17

      You've kind of got to expect that most tldr videos are a day out of date. With these videos being decently well edited I'm cool with it taking them a day.

    • @SophieLayton-ww9uv
      @SophieLayton-ww9uv 17 днів тому +3

      @@jamesslater9098 I get that but if you're dedicating a third of the video to something that doesn't need discussion anymore because it's decided what's the point? They said at the start this one guy is expected to become 1922 leader but not only has the leader been decided it wasn't even that guy. I get they're edited well & by a small team but a large chunk of this video was irrelevant before it was even uploaded

    • @williampaine3520
      @williampaine3520 16 днів тому +1

      ​@@jamesslater9098 except the video then says "it could be weeks before a 1922 chairman is elected"... it's not just out of date, it is wrong. Should have reshot, removed or annotated the offending section.

  • @keyboards101
    @keyboards101 17 днів тому

    Great video! One thing however is I think your dates for when Braverman and Patel were Home Secretary are wrong.

  • @20storiesunder
    @20storiesunder 17 днів тому +14

    Wait, it won't be Rishi for ever? :D

  • @tassko
    @tassko 16 днів тому +1

    The leadership election should be more hunger games than beauty contest!

  • @simonbarrow479
    @simonbarrow479 16 днів тому +2

    Why give air time to Reform and not Lib Dems ?

    • @88dumbnatzees
      @88dumbnatzees 13 днів тому +1

      Cuz this channel is right wing under the guise of impartiality. Watch them carefully and you will see.

  • @MikeJones__Who
    @MikeJones__Who 16 днів тому +2

    Nigel Firage and legitimate are two words that should never go together.
    On the other hand
    Nigel Firage and egged, or Nigel Firage and Milkshaked...even better Nigel Firage and punchable go very well together.

  • @Richard-Swift
    @Richard-Swift 17 днів тому +2

    4:40 Did none of you read the news before this video came out? They've already elected a chairman, it's the MP for Harrow East, Bob Blackman.

  • @darthkarr
    @darthkarr 16 днів тому

    I love how rishi wife brought an umbrella out this time. When it didnt rain XD

  • @prettitalented
    @prettitalented 17 днів тому +7

    I appreciate the informative content the UA-cam channel provides about current events. However, I've noticed they've recently started presenting the news from a more casual, informal setting without a desk. While I understand the desire to create a relaxed atmosphere, I feel a desk-based setup would be more appropriate for this type of news content.

  • @foxyboiiyt3332
    @foxyboiiyt3332 17 днів тому +2

    Seeing as it's like to 12th Tory leadership contest in 4 years I think we all know how it works by now!

  • @hamalakarris577
    @hamalakarris577 17 днів тому +3

    dates are mixed up at 6:06

  • @TheRealEtaoinShrdlu
    @TheRealEtaoinShrdlu 17 днів тому +2

    "requirments" SIC

  • @planetomega38
    @planetomega38 17 днів тому

    1:49 wtf was going on in the background lol

  • @scoobyrds
    @scoobyrds 16 днів тому +2

    Where’s ur desk

  • @maurodellisanti7163
    @maurodellisanti7163 16 днів тому +2

    How about James Cleverly?

  • @gavrielsolomons
    @gavrielsolomons 15 днів тому +1

    You really need to do better research. Most Conservative MPs, particularly within conservative circles, are talking about a longer leadership election. One individual giving a quote to the Guardian would not change that.

  • @tayonhickey9707
    @tayonhickey9707 16 днів тому

    6:06 you got Patel and Braverman’s time in the home office mixed up

  • @Jonas_M_M
    @Jonas_M_M 16 днів тому

    I *like* the new presentation style, for sure!

  • @captainnice1881
    @captainnice1881 16 днів тому +1

    0:29 So much aura

  • @nyx7664
    @nyx7664 17 днів тому +14

    Ahhh... History repeating itself is glorious! What's happening to the Conservatives is shockingly similar to what happened to the Liberal Democrats (Then just the Liberals) back in the early 20th century when the party ate itself alive. Labor wasn't always the other biggest party in U.K politics, it was actually the Liberals, but they started fighting amongst themselves over new liberalism or old Gladstonian liberalism as the direction for the party, with the new liberals eventually just defecting to labor, the last liberal government ended in 1915 and they've never really recovered.
    Here's hoping the Tories DON'T learn from the lessons of the past.

  • @JAldrich73
    @JAldrich73 16 днів тому

    I like the new “informal” setup of presenting the news.

  • @kaimack2669
    @kaimack2669 16 днів тому

    6.06 secs - you got the tenure dates mixed up for Braverman and Patel. 😅😅😅😅😅

  • @silvershocknicktail6638
    @silvershocknicktail6638 16 днів тому +1

    "Let's start by talking about Labour and Reform." Ah yes, the only two parties, FFS.

  • @ShiftyGeeza
    @ShiftyGeeza 16 днів тому +1

    Why was Sunaks missus wearing a bedsheet?

  • @KnightRaymund
    @KnightRaymund 16 днів тому +1

    Doing the worst ever and being 5 years from the next election is the exact time to do a more involved leadership race. Introspection is needed. But they seem to want to avoid that.
    Although their whole system sounds weird. And after something like this, the requirement to go through MPs and being an MP seems to set it up for an extremist dince more moderates probably lost their seats.

  • @Adenn
    @Adenn 16 днів тому +2

    The fact that David Tennant in an acceptance speech for the lgbt awards said that he wished Badenoch would "just shut up" tells me that she is NOT the one to change the fortune of the Tories

    • @michaelwoolley7034
      @michaelwoolley7034 16 днів тому +1

      She is the best candidate & Tennants behaviour & the motivations for it typify many of the reasons for why she is

    • @hypotheticlz
      @hypotheticlz 15 днів тому

      I somewhat doubt that David Tennant was once a devout Tory voter, and I also doubt that anyone cares about his political opinion. Nothing against Tennant as an actor, he’s great, but not exactly a famous political influencer.

  • @curruptedJimbo
    @curruptedJimbo 16 днів тому

    At 3:18 I can kinda admire the sheer amount of annoyed energy coming from the gent holding the speaker. Thats a level of grump I've not seen on a guy before

  • @carvoloco4229
    @carvoloco4229 16 днів тому +1

    I think the Tories' best option is the lettuce

  • @DanOC1991
    @DanOC1991 17 днів тому +1

    4:59 spelt requirement wrong

  • @Ode_10
    @Ode_10 16 днів тому +1

    Badenoch may not be eligible to run if labour contest legally contest the result

  • @dapperdarlingdm5723
    @dapperdarlingdm5723 17 днів тому +14

    Reform will have little opportunity to embarrass anyone but himself. He is the leader of a mp block. Questions are reserved for the opposition and next largest party...
    And I bet when he gets one, he will make a fool out of himself.

    • @pevebe
      @pevebe 16 днів тому +3

      uniparty propaganda

    • @blackroseangel123
      @blackroseangel123 16 днів тому +1

      That's If he ever turns up 😂

  • @claytonclarkson7152
    @claytonclarkson7152 16 днів тому

    For a channel that gives away free content, i sure do get alot of ads before your videos.

  • @Canario_27
    @Canario_27 16 днів тому +4

    What about a Conservative leader who is a (checks notes) conservative?????

    • @mr.netflix9149
      @mr.netflix9149 16 днів тому +3

      Most left when Johnson took over. Conservatives currently don't have a political home.

    • @pevebe
      @pevebe 16 днів тому

      No chance.

    • @michaelwoolley7034
      @michaelwoolley7034 16 днів тому

      Badenoch is 1

    • @michaelwoolley7034
      @michaelwoolley7034 16 днів тому

      Anti-woke is 1 of the most useful forms of conservatism

    • @pevebe
      @pevebe 16 днів тому

      @@michaelwoolley7034 No she isn't. She's not even from here, you are a joke

  • @davidhall7744
    @davidhall7744 16 днів тому +2

    Kemi Badenough has ‘another Liz Truss disaster’ written all over her 😂 Tbe only language she speaks in is Word Salad, an absolute bletherer of nonsense - a proponent of gaslighting supreme 😂

  • @cyberguardreal
    @cyberguardreal 16 днів тому

    Heya i just wanted to ask- does TLDR exist as a podcast?

    • @keynage6693
      @keynage6693 16 днів тому

      They have a podcast channel

  • @seldomtold
    @seldomtold 16 днів тому +1

    Can you use "chair" instead of "chairman"? Thank you for being more inclusive.

  • @SiVlog1989
    @SiVlog1989 17 днів тому +18

    If the Tories are to be a viable opposition, they need to not take the bait of Farage and instead focus on the middle ground, the one that the Tories have previously done very well in. They need to move away from eye fluttering towards Boris Johnson and the "merits" of Liz Truss and instead focus on how they're going to detoxify the more loony aspects of their party

    • @dontcomply3976
      @dontcomply3976 16 днів тому +6

      Riiiiiiight
      I bet you would never ever vote Tory or any centre right party in any country, in a million years but they should take your advice.

    • @Minimmalmythicist
      @Minimmalmythicist 16 днів тому +9

      @@dontcomply3976 that´s just a lame ad hominem. I actually think countries need a good left wing and a good right wing party, I think it would be good if we had a conservative party that wasn´t radically Thatcherite, that wasn´t rather xenophobic etc.
      I´d rather the UK had a conservative party more like the CDU in Germany, or more like it was under Ted Heath and Harold Macmillan.

    • @SiVlog1989
      @SiVlog1989 16 днів тому +3

      @dontcomply3976 why were Labour comprehensively blown out in 2019? It was because under Jeremy Corbyn, the party shifted too far to the left for the country as a whole. Something similar occurred, albeit on the right, for the Tories. For all his faults, Cameron at least tried to tap into the middle ground, but since Brexit, the Tories shifted further and further to the right, for example, cutting the top rate of tax without finding ways to pay for them

    • @maxgraham479
      @maxgraham479 16 днів тому

      @@SiVlog1989 Basically if the two parties shift to far to the left or right, they get thrashed at elections. That's why if the Tories want to be re-elected, they need a moderate candidate.

    • @SiVlog1989
      @SiVlog1989 16 днів тому

      @@maxgraham479 exactly

  • @keeklawless9248
    @keeklawless9248 17 днів тому +1

    Firstly, they should keep it a smaller affair. I.e not have it pasted across media for weeks on end, like the last few they’ve had.

  • @reecefraser5521
    @reecefraser5521 17 днів тому +7

    Really don't understand why you needed to mention Reform at the beginning of this and not the Lib Dems or Greens. I know its only a small thing but this kind of subtle bias really adds up

    • @patriarch7237
      @patriarch7237 16 днів тому +3

      Given the focus is on the Conservatives and their lurch further right in recent years, I am sure they are more worried about Reform eating their lunch than they are about what the Lib Dems are doing. And I don't imagine the Conservatives lost a single vote to the Greens, there is just no overlap between their voters.

    • @merrymachiavelli2041
      @merrymachiavelli2041 16 днів тому +2

      Strategically, a party to the right of the Conservatives presents more problems. Without Reform, the Tories can compete for the centre ground without needing to worry too much about the right wing of the party (other than trying to get them to turn out on election day). With Reform, it becomes extremally difficult to craft policies that appeal to all potential Tory voters.
      I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that the Conservatives can't get back into government while Reform exists as a significant minor party.

    • @dontcomply3976
      @dontcomply3976 16 днів тому +1

      ​@patriarch7237 That true conservative Rory whathisface who looks like Willem Dafoe who stood for leader in 2019, said he was going to vote Green

    • @gourkernow5694
      @gourkernow5694 16 днів тому

      Didn't the greens win 2 seats off the tories last week?!

  • @danielwebb8402
    @danielwebb8402 17 днів тому +1

    I think the two going to the members will be kimi b and tom t.

  • @Victoriomantic
    @Victoriomantic 16 днів тому

    5:41 i think you meant Badenoch survived the general election, not leadership :)

  • @EntertainmentFilms26
    @EntertainmentFilms26 5 днів тому

    I’d love to have Patel as party leader lol

  • @Jonkuzon
    @Jonkuzon 17 днів тому

    Lady Arianne Frey AU would be golden

  • @TipeneThorner
    @TipeneThorner 16 днів тому

    has the TLDR team ditched the desk for the couch? This is the second couch video Ive seen

  • @georgethurlow7253
    @georgethurlow7253 5 днів тому

    They need a leader soon as leadership fighting takes away from being an opposition

  • @DiLLZGFX
    @DiLLZGFX 16 днів тому +1

    Could sunak still stand?

  • @English_Dawn
    @English_Dawn 17 днів тому +8

    Since John Major the Conservative Parliamentary MP's have become more liberal and vacated small "c" conservatism leaving the vacuum to be filled by ReformUK.
    Party has to decide does it want to become LibDem2.0 or do a 180°, start being socially conservative again and challenge ReformUK.

    • @chesterdonnelly1212
      @chesterdonnelly1212 17 днів тому +2

      Correct. And LibDems are thriving so we don't need another one.

    • @napoleonfeanor
      @napoleonfeanor 17 днів тому

      But leftist commentators who would never vote tory in their lives will tell you that they need to be more "moderate" ;)

    • @barryhomeowner9293
      @barryhomeowner9293 17 днів тому +3

      They, and reform, are not conservatives. They're right wing radicals - trying to do things like leave the ECHR is totally at odds with conservative values. Contrary to Reform UK belief, conservative does not just mean bigoted.

    • @mr.netflix9149
      @mr.netflix9149 16 днів тому

      ​@@barryhomeowner9293 This. Conservatism means conserving. Reform wants Reform. Reform isn't conservative.

    • @michaelwoolley7034
      @michaelwoolley7034 16 днів тому

      ​@@barryhomeowner9293you don't even understand what conservatism is then

  • @_xeere
    @_xeere 16 днів тому +1

    Mordaunt is such a bad bitch and she looked epic with that sword. Wish she could be the leader.

  • @williamhoffman7009
    @williamhoffman7009 15 днів тому

    86 the facial hair, Ben!

  • @lewisx2055
    @lewisx2055 17 днів тому +5

    Can you do back to the old format using an actual mic. The audio quality has dipped

  • @forsakenquery
    @forsakenquery 15 днів тому

    Good unbiased discussion. So rare.

  • @DuelMaster7
    @DuelMaster7 17 днів тому +17

    Who will be the first MP to defect to reform

    • @English_Dawn
      @English_Dawn 17 днів тому +5

      Depends which direction the Conservative MP's go, if it carries on it's liberal path then probably up to a third could look to ReformUK who have taken up the small "c" conservatism space the Conservative Party parliamentary MP's have left behind.
      Probably as telling is how many Conservative Party Members look towards ReformUK.

    • @broreece
      @broreece 17 днів тому

      Farage will likely defect from reform just like he did ukip

    • @dirtyden1
      @dirtyden1 17 днів тому +4

      Probably Cruella de Ville

    • @TheWebstaff
      @TheWebstaff 16 днів тому

      Nigels going to be Conservative leader.

    • @DuelMaster7
      @DuelMaster7 16 днів тому +1

      ​@@TheWebstaff doubt it he dont want the job

  • @edsiebert5986
    @edsiebert5986 16 днів тому

    or Khemi "Bad Enoch" as Supertanskii calls her!