Is Northern Ireland’s Political Crisis Coming to an End?
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Northern Ireland has been without a functioning devolved government since February 2022, amid a DUP boycott over post-Brexit trade agreements. So in this video, we'll explain the boycott, where the situation is now and whether this might come to an end.
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The DUPs biggest concern is that they’ll have to have the “deputy” first minister seat.
Seeing as they are it is actually a joint First Minister arrangement it shouldn't matter. But of course It's only "deputy" because Unionists believed they would never be in that position.
@@Serenica272 Should just call them “Joint ministers” and end this petty shit.
Thought it was because of no government
@@jammyjamjars6995Yeah but why change it just because the DUP don't want the title of deputy? It's been fine for SF to be deputy since the agreement. Why change it just because the DUP don't want to feel like second best?
@@InsaneSkeltyy I love how some people think they can convince Unionists to join the Republic when we can’t even get the DUP to accept a job title change 😂
DUP are funny bunnies. They supported Brexit, only to realise that they absolutely despise what Brexit actually meant. 🙄
The contradictions disappear when you remember that the DUP campaigned against the Good Friday Agreement in 1998 and were hoping that Brexit would end it and establish a hard border on Ireland again
@drmajalis1583 I guess that they'd be pleased to hear what was alledged in Anthony Seldon's Boris at 10, then. His breakfast with Sinn Fein's Mary Lou McDonald was quite insightful to him in terms of how to potentially make a Brexit deal that would allow for Britan to diverge from the EU without a border on the Island of Ireland.
Praying for heaven then raging because the Paddy's are allowed in.
@@drmajalis1583perhaps but by saying A and hoping for B they created such friction that they now risk getting C: NI leaving the union and joining Ireland and the EU.
@@Ronnet oh yeah they effed up bad and are panicking and they're realizing that
It’s almost as if Brexit was a silly idea……..
It's also almost as if we in Ireland were saying that on the run up to the referendum and were then accused of fear mongering and interfering in brexit
This has little to do with brexit, and more with the crisis that is irish history. Brexit was a sound idea, but it's poisoned by politicians and measures who do everything to undermine it, on both sides.
@@kevburkeif anyone should be blamed for interfering in Brexit it's that blundering buffoon Boris Johnson
People all over the UK were saying Brexit is a mistake, not just NI. Also, 44% of NI voters voted leave, so it's not like there was a decisive majority.
@baz1184
56% remain
15% undecided
29% leave.
As David McWilliams said; "The DUP never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.".
"With friends like the DUP, who needs enemies?"
Very comedically humorous. For an Irish
Brexit has made Irish Unity inevitable.
Demographics makes it inevitable. Unionists are mostly over 50, and Nationalists under 30. And nationalists tend to have larger families. Brexit will accelerate things, but polls supporting Nationalism have gained a couple percentage points year over year for decades.
In business, it is understood that if a position is vacant for more than six months, it is unnecessary. The DUP not participating in government for so long means they are absolutely unneeded.
The government may have parallels to the operation of a business, but the difference is that the government answers to their electorate, a customer doesn't quite fit the analogue, as a business can always move from their current market and say, move internationally, a government would lose its reason to exist as an entity if it did such a thing. I find it disparaging that so many in this comment section wish to and or cheer for the potential disenfranchisement of Unionists, even despite their leaderships poor policy decisions.
In just the last 15 years, Belguim has had 2 massive periods without an elected government.
One for 541 and one for 589 days!!
So yeah. If you think your point stands, then Belguim doesn't need an elected government. Which is probably correct, given how the eu erodes and destroys national democracy anyway!!
The same could thus be said of Sinn Fein or the devolution in NI as a whole, then? but then perhaps as Donald Trump proves Business people know fuck all about anything really particularly running a country.
Wow, Northern Irish unionists are now complaining about British interference in Northern Ireland... :D
I know the irony is breathtakingly!
I know a protestant family in Belfast which voted for SF the last election. The father explained me that it is now so bad - that they'd prefer to be part of the Republic of Ireland, as "in Dublin no one cared about my protestantism".
How to spot a liar ^
Yes, it does seem like all these problems go away if the island unites.
@@E3ECO Ireland has the biggest GDP per capita in Europe already. Even though the data is skewed by big US corporations using it as a quasi tax haven and as a foothold in the EU, I would still argue the quality of living in the Republic is better than whatever the UK has north of Cambridge.
@@nailil5722 You need another asterisk on that, Monaco, Liechtenstein and Luxembourg have higher gdp per capita. I do understand ignoring them though, two are microstates and Luxembourg is also a very small country.
Will never understand why the DUP forced the brexit issue. This will ultimately cost them the union.
In what passes for thinking in their circles, Brexit would scuttle the GFA they never wanted and erect a hard border between NI and Ireland. _How_ that was supposed to happen in practice was always somebody else's problem.
It won't.
@@DaDARKPass It already has. There's a new border in the Irish Sea which wasn't there in 2016. Didn't you spot that bit?
@@bogbay The UK has all the power here. All that the UK has to do is end the good friday agreement and join the EU.
Because the DUP just wants the Union. They don't like that they have to share power with Sein Fein and don't give a single fuck about the NI-I border issue. They (as loyalists) were forced to sign the Good Friday Agreement. For them, an Open Border is the same as a Hard Border. They don't give a shit. They want to be as close as possible to Great Britain, while not abandoning their home, nor giving in to their "neighbours" (SF and the wider Nationalists). To put the DUPs thoughts bluntly they are something like: "Rule Britannia, God Save the King, Long Live the Empire, fuck them [Catholic] Irish".
Like many Brexit supporters, the DUP have spent very little time or energy considering reality before deciding on what they want to do. With the UK leaving the EU and its trading structures/regulations there was always going to have to be a border either between Northern Ireland/the rest of Ireland or between Northern Ireland and the UK. Since then they have been the political equivalent of an unruly teenager essentially locking themselves in their room and refusing to come out until everyone else caved in and let them have their own way, despite that being essentially impossible.
@@Besthinktwice but they've doomed themselves long term. Brexit was a Faustian bargain, for short term gains, and now Sinn Fein is stronger than ever.
At least, thats what I see in my perspective.
@@BesthinktwiceI
@@noahjohnson935km
Great point. If Brexit passed, there would need to be a new border somewhere. When the anti-Leave Cameron resigned, the anti-Leave May took over and promised to implement Brexit. DUP still supported the minority governments of May and Johnson (at first) even though both put the border in the Irish Sea. Although personally I'd like to see a united Ireland, I think Boris really screwed the DUP and the Protestant NI. Boris broke the promise that Carson forced the Westminister Government to make to Ulster after Irish independence. Despite my personal feeling, Boris and the UK Parliament breaking that promise is unforgivable. The DUP could be wrong on every issue, but they still had every right to rely on that promise and feel betrayed by Boris and the Tories, and even all their fellow countrymen.
Logically the trade border should be at the border with the foreign country.
I'm always surprised that politicians can literally not do huge parts of their jobs and have no repercussions as you would in literally any other job.
If I not only just didn't turn up but actively refused to participate in my key duties, I would be out of a job pretty fast.
Ever heard of a strike?
@@bobboo101 ever heard of a legal right to collectively bargain? Quite a different proposition to just noping out of your job.
@@SilverMKI bro has seriously never heard of a strike LOL
@@bobboo101 A strike normally lasts a few days or weeks (possibly months) - but over a year (in the case of the DUP) or several years (in the case of Nadine Dorries)?
@@mittfh the reason a strike never goes that long is because the companies cannot afford that - they have to fold
I am from NI, I went to the local supermarket and bought two Pizzas, on the freezer door where I took them from said 'Not for EU' so only to be sold and eaten in NI, However looking at the packaging it said 'Made in Germany' (EU) so those Pizzas had to travel by truck from the EU, into a GB ports with no checks, to Travel across GB, to then enter an NI port to be checked so it cant be then taken to the Irish Republic which is in the EU. I'm confused.
Thing is, they come in through the South of Ireland to avoid taxes.
More companies are now having their goods shipped to the south and brought up to northern Ireland to then go to the main land. The same thing is happening the other way, where goods from mainland UK bound for Ireland are being taken through Northern Ireland to avoid fees
It’s all a farce by sounds of it . For the book I hope NI never leaves the UK
Haven’t started the video yet, but just to clarify in case it’s not mentioned, the DUP claim the Irish Sea border is the reason they’re boycotting the government, but everyone with half a brain here knows it’s because they don’t want to recognise that Sinn Féin are the biggest party.
It's the notion that they would have to serve in an administration with a CATHOLIC WOMAN First Minister(FM) from Sinn Féin(SF), in the first place.
More generally, they are refusing to deal with the demographic and political realities on Northern Ireland(NI).
The days of sectarian domination by the Protestant/Unionist/Loyalist(PUL) majority are over, first and foremost because voters from the Catholic/Nationalist/Republican(CNR) demographic now are a larger voting bloc.
Then these idiots will only see a greater number of voters against them. Does the DUP want to become a dictatorship over NI?
Absolutely. If the Irish Sea 'border' issue is resolved (which it is), they will continue to boycott...over and over, again.
The DUP have already put it on record they don't have an issue with a SF first minister (In fact its Joint minister) The DUP have a problem with the constitution of the UK being rewritten and a part of the UK being treated differently from the rest. The IRA and Republicans fought a 30 years war because of the interference of a foreign power in Ireland and lost, never accepted it since 1921. So I think the DUP have a right to their objections too. Secondly Northern Ireland did not get Brexit like the rest of the UK, this is actually contrary to article 50 of the EU withdrawal agreement that states that when a country leaves the EU 'it must leave in its entirety' Technically the protocol and Windsor framework breaks the act of union and and the EU withdrawal agreement.
@@jimcazador6057
"The DUP have already put it on record they don't have an issue with a SF first minister..."?
Yes dear, of course they have.
And IF you believe that claim, then you are THE perfect candidate for this bridge I have recently acquired.....
"The DUP have a problem with the constitution of the UK being rewritten..."?
No, the DUP are seeking a VETO concerning the UK's foreign policy, which is a Reserved Power.
"...and a part of the UK being treated differently from the rest"?
Ha! Ha! Ha!
The DUP had precisely ZERO problems with Northern Ireland(NI) "...being treated differently from the rest" of the UK when it came to homosexuality, marriage equality, or abortion.
In fact, the DUP screamed loud and long when the UK's government insisted that NI NOT be "...treated differently from the rest" of the UK when it came to homosexuality, marriage equality, or abortion.
Rampant hypocrisy is the DUP's ground state.
Your set of claims concerning the NI Protocol(NIP) and the Westminster Protocol is a string of clueless twaddle.
The DUP supported Brexit as they were gleeful at the idea of a hard border in Ireland. Only to have it turn around and screw them over. And to show them once again in how low regard they are thought of in Westminster. The loyalty only goes in one direction for loyalists.
While most on the island knew that a hard border would never happen. Dummy DUPs.
Wasan’t there a poll where the majority of Unionists consider themselves British.. but a majority of people in England consider the Unionists to be Irish
Why any party would decline their two-thirds majority among unionists and 28% overall in Stormont for a 1% minority of voting members in Westminster is beyond me
The DUP lost the plot YEARS AGO
They have principles & are sticking by them that’s not losing the plot .
The DUP were told by experts, the Irish PM and others, that Brexit would help an United Ireland.
No ! NEVER ! 😂😂😂
The head of government of Ireland is a Taoiseach, not a PM
The people of Northern Ireland are just as stubborn and short sighted as their Celtic ancestors were 1000 years ago. Inter-Tribal warfare is as old as the hills there. Clan vs Clan. Two tribes forever with a vendetta against each other. Thats all these 'politicians' on both sides have the brain capacity to think about. Beyond that, doing whats best long term for their people, prosperity and security is beyond their vision.
@@RedHair651 I know that, but that would confuse most people here.
Only because the UK caved on having the trade border not at the actual border.
71% of votes in the NI Assembly Election were for parties supporting the protocol.
71% of MLAs support the Protocol.
NI Business supports the Protocol.
NI Farming supports the Protocol.
And still the DUP maintain their vote. It can only happen in NI.
And me (unionist) supports the protocol
@@Tay12345 Speaking as a nationalist I can only imagine how infuriating the DUP and TUV have been for yourself.
It honestly feels like Jeffery is going to pull off a mask someday and reveal he was Gerry Adams the whole time.
@@NEWBkiller646 😂
@@raymonddixon7603 Paisleyism is a fucking disease the north is just now finally starting to reject.
DUP did not consider the effects of Brexit when they took the cash offer from BoJo to support it. This shows very poor leadership and people will consider that when the elections come round.
Incorrect, the DUP did consider the effects of Brexit and knew exactly what they were doing when campaigning for it. The trouble is they thought the UK was strong enough to strong arm the other actors into agreeing to impose a hard UK border on the island of Ireland. The DUP, like the UK were mistaken.
They will in their shite, to use an Irish term. When push comes to shove they all jump into their respective SF/DUP boxes.
I think it was Teresa May who provided the "extra funding" when she needed the DUP support to form a government after the hung parliament in 2017. The DUP then voted against every attempt to come up with a solution over the border. Boris didn't need their support once he got his majority so I'm not sure if he gave them anything except his word ...
@@Gary-bz1rf Nonsense, of course the UK wanted to do that, however to do so would mean alienating more powerful actors. Realising its place, sense prevailed in the end and the UK agreed to split its country into two Customs areas.
That was Theresa May
The DUP boycotting the Tories is like your abusive dad refusing to come to your abusive step-dad's funeral so you don't have to deal with either of them any more.
Irish unification 2024. Make Star Trek the Next Generation great again
It would be so hilarious if that was the one political future prediction Star Trek actually got right.
Looks like 2024 is gonna be my year!
The DUP refused to participate in the Assembly because they would have to as the "junior partner" in their eyes. They are petty and backwards and should be ashamed.
Preventing the terrorist party from taking the top job seems pretty good to me
Brexit is the gift that keeps on giving! Welcome to the Brexit! 😮
@@BarryStanton1488...nah. Brexit IS a problem.
@@BarryStanton1488 When are you and your fellow Nationalists going to finally realise that Re-unification is inevitable. And soon !
It's just racism and Brexit is the excuse they are using because they can't say we won't work with Catholics.
@mr-andrew That was the 2nd world war..
I think the UK is going to be pretty well off in the long run, stick by the US and you'll be fine, we kinda need you unlike other EU countries
Short answer: no
Long answer: noooooooooooooooo
WHAT a political crisis in Northern Ireland????? Who would’ve thought
Caused by people not from Northern Ireland. Who would've thought!
@@justhannah3960 The DUP aren't Northern Irish?
@@owenlindkvist5355 yes they are...
@@owenlindkvist5355they are Irish.
They are baby Tory wannabes, who enjoy spending their time licking the boots of Tory Westminster.
@@owenlindkvist5355they are Irish men, dressed as Scotsmen, pretending to be English men by worshiping a Dutch man. Hope that clears it up :p
It would be surprising if the DUP did not say "NO". In my long experience it is the sum total of their political dialogue.
'Never' was another one 😂
Aye that old addage "If you took out No from the dictionary Ulster would have nothing to say"
And 'let's be clear', the British border in the Irish Sea, is only a part of the reason. The MAIN reason is that the extremists' pathetic, and very dangerous, egos won't allow them to play second fiddle to an Irish party. They are pushing to be king of the ashes, and again, that's the fault of Britain.
All these definitions have been corrupted over 300 years caused by UK establishment.
British was supposed to pertain to anything related to the island of Britain..... However technically it used only referred to the British Celtic peoples like the Welsh and Cornish.
It's basically the greater English border splitting Ireland
@@penderyn8794Technically, Ireland is considered part of the British Isles, but your point isn't inaccurate. The Cornish are basically non-existent, and the Welsh have little appetite to separate from England.
@@GrammarNaziAUSTechnically the Irish government do not consider Ireland to be part of the British Isles. And neither do the majority of Irish people. It’s one of many disputes throughout the world, I don’t think either side is particularly bothered about this one.
Well, except the DUP, of course.
@TuongLuKim713 specifically the DUP on this occasion, and their terrorist-type supporters. Not saying all of their supporters, but that 'Little England' type of person. You know the type, that if someone is slightly different from them or their extremely small bubble, they automatically hate. The bigots and racists.
Why do you ask? I sense whataboutary.
He’s definitely meaning Protestants unionist & Royalists .
One thing that I feel should also be discussed is how this will affect internal politics, because I feel that literally every other party in the devolved government is going to hold some (more) resentment towards the DUP
the sea border, not Brexit but the sea border has completely broken NI politics. To the point where relations are extremely low and the Good Friday Agreement currently sidelined.
@@simonwiggins8570 the DUP refused power sharing since 2017 well prior to Johnson’s deal/ the Sea Border. The sea border is so much more preferable to a land border it’s not even worth debating. If the DUP want to feel fully British they should move to Britain
@@simonwiggins8570 There would be no sea border but for Brexit. Brexit is the problem, the border is the solution. Under the terms of the GFA, the UK leaving the EU intact was not possible. The UK was told that.
@@simonwiggins8570 Yes, older voters are confused and angry. Who cares, give them another drink.
@@simonwiggins8570Chuckie ár rí 🇮🇪👑🇬🇧
As someone living on the continent, it amazes me how GB has complitely disappeared from every news after the brexit.
Why? Britian is unimportant
@@PaddyDoesasia-bj3bbwell now they are finally acting like it!
Your material is usually good. But u missed the main point in this one. The DUP don't want to be in government with a SF first minister. And they don't want a new election or they will lose more seats to Alliance
This didn’t go very deep…the number of businesses in Northern Ireland increased significantly since the referendum. Imports from the north down into the rest of Ireland has increased by almost 25%. The DUP is continuing to argue and act against the interests of their own constituents.
Star Trek predicted a unification of Ireland in 2024, it's happening
Tbf in Northern Ireland, Political Crisis is just the default state.
mostly just politicians looking for any reason not to do their job at this stage and still get paid...
@@pipuk3 Politicians in Stormont get s wage cut if the assembly isn't sitting. Which is part of the reason why it's the ones in Westminster that feel comfortable rejecting compromise.
Just the normal way for polictics to cause tension between the people.
As a Northern Irishman, I can confirm that we're still in turmoil in regards to getting anywhere.
Hey, at least we aren't paying taxes for our water.
@@NovaExeRegent I think it will happen at some point the water. Was suggested so many times.
It is rather amusing how much the decision making of the DUP since 2016 ultimately helped Sinn Fein's goals
Exactly, they need to be replaced with a new unionist party.
@@Tay12345 NI should be part of Republic of Ireland. Reunified.
@@kamilpotato3764💚🤍🧡
@@Tay12345There shouldn't be a Unionist Party. One island, one nation.
@@DavidJamesHenry one island one nation? Then there shouldn’t be such thing as the SNP or Plaid!
I live in the EU now and British goods are 3x as expensive as any other brand - the exception being stuff from NI which is the same cost it always was. Brexit broke England, economically NI is doing fine thanks to staying partially in the EU
Northern Ireland is not in the EU in any shape or form.
They are attached to the single market for trade of goods only.
@@gerardflynn7382yeah and that single market is in no way shape or form related to the EU right? Right.
@gerardflynn7382 And the NI Protocol, which governs the import of those said Goods into NI from GB, is governed by EU law.
That's right. Goods not produced in Chinese sweat shops cost more. Suck it up.
"Brexit broke England" It broke the whole of Great Britain, not just England. Why do Wales and Scotland not matter to you? The only part of the United Kingdom it didn't break is Northern Ireland.
I smell Irish unification soon! 🇮🇪
26 + 6 = 1 🇮🇪🇮🇪
I can see it too! 🇮🇪
It would be weird if Northern Ireland isn’t in a political crisis
@@Besthinktwice and it was partitioned to create an overwhelming protestant majority which is now in decline. They're not top dogs any more calling all the shots and they don't like it.
Ulster should be reunited with her homeland.
@nathantepuke1538 sounds a lot like what the Russians like to say.
Why the hell do news outlets keep bringing Jamie Bryson up in their reports? The man is a joke and not taken very seriously in N. Ireland. At the very least I've never heard anyone talk about him in any way that implies he's worth paying attention to.
I do not think anybody in Ireland know or care who he is.
@@raymonddixon7603 oh ! We know him alright cos' the lil' mouthpiece keeps getting a soapbox courtesy of stephen 'ton bag' nolan ... We slag the fuzzy balls off him according due to him talking out his hole ?!! 😉🤘😁
@@raymonddixon7603 Yeah, he's a joke. Got himself on TV during the 'Fleg' protests a decade ago, became a laughing stock to many and now the media think he's actually someone to watch.
As I said he's a joke and doesn't deserve any breath wasted talking about whatever he has to say about anything political.
DUP: The only local political party in the world that purely exist to defend remote control....
is just me or does Brexit seem to negatively affect Brexiteers more than the average Remainer
(poetic justice)
No NI didn't vote for Brexit.
@@timsoel566The unionists did though.
It could be because the people that were more "fed up" with the EU, were the ones that had to deal with its bureaucracy the most; they bought the "we'll exit and will do things so much better!" lie, except of course it didn't happen.
I'm a Brexiteer and EU citizen, because Brexit has been advantageous for the EU (incl Ireland).
@@pieterpopster5549Of the voting 56% voted remain.
15% were undecided
29% voted for Brexit.
Man imagine a single party being able to stop an entire government.
Me in the U.S. having a single party stop an entire part of out government
For me it didn't sound like they stop the entire government.
They are still ruled by the government.
They just give all their influence away to the central government.
Would be as if Texas would be directly ruled by Washington with no say in any rule change....
It's even more interesting where it's the party in power that does this.
Well you have actually 2 parties, a far right party and a not so far right party. Either way there is nothing between them.
@@raymonddixon7603 lol the idea that both of America's main parties are right wing is a silly fantasy by the extremist left wing to pretend that they aren't just extremists
@@raymonddixon7603neither party far right enough
I love the little laugh "the DUP who btw are pro brexit"
Also this Bryson, is unelected self appointed leader of VERY nefarious elements of unionism, I would be extremely reluctant to give airtime to these sort. Google is your friend TLDR.
If the British want it to be easy, they could just give the 6 counties back.
Exactly
Which means a war against Ireland to force it to accept Northern Ireland and a war against Northern Ireland to force it to leave the UK. If more blood and butchery is all that the British have to offer, then they repeat what they've been using against the island of Ireland from time to time for 800 years. Democracy as outlined in the UN-registered Good Friday Agreement would seem to be the more moral and easier way for the British, and the rest of us, to proceed.
Looks like Star Treck was right on schedule. Long live Ireland.
The fact that in 2023 the two major parties in N. Ireland STILL choose to represent themselves with the colors orange and green kind of tells you that Brexit was never going to fix anything. Trade unions are not the problem, THE union is the problem. Maybe the 18th century's solution is not the right solution?
Welcome to northern Ireland
Quite frankly, neither Sinn Fein nor the DUP should be allowed to effectively disestablish the government in Northern Ireland. If you don't show up, you leave an open goal for everyone else. So show up and do your bit.
DUP supported Brexit because they saw it as an easy way to ensure Northern Ireland remains British first and foremost, in the fece of changing demographics. What they didn’t consider was that The Good Friday Agreement is something most people in the world want to protect as one of the only examples of a majorly successful peace process. They didn’t realise the British Government doesn’t really care all that much about unionist concerns in Northern Ireland and now they’re faced with the dilemma that they caused - A Brexit where Northern Ireland has to be treated differently to the rest of the UK because of international agreements. The funny thing is though, throughout Northern Ireland’s history of existence it has always been treated differently to the rest of the UK. It had its own parliament until it was dissolved in the 70s, it’s own civil service, it’s own slightly different health service and even still in terms of civil rights Northern Ireland had to be brought into conformity with the rest of the UK on abortion and same sex marriage laws by the UK Government. Northern Irish Agricultural imports and exports already are checked at ports, passenger ferries and air travel require some sort of ID to cross the Irish Sea, regulatory diversions already exist. The only reason the DUP refuse to sit in the Stormont assembly or share power is because they have embarrassed themselves, they can’t face the consequences of collapsing public services and they have done a shitty job trying to make the case for The Union.
If the DUP's attitude towards Brexit is anything to go by, it's be careful what you wish for. In the June 2016 referendum, much like Scotland, most people in Northern Ireland voted to remain in the EU. They were accutely aware of its troubled past and felt that it would risk jeopodising the Good Friday Agreement. Much like 100 years ago, when Northern Ireland was created, there is a sentiment that Loyalists and Unionists want all things their own way. If people from the rest of the UK visit places like Belfast or Derry/Londonderry, they will be shocked about what they find. Although the military checkpoints have gone, there are still very vivid reminders of Northern Ireland's bloody past (every community in suburban areas, be they Nationalist or Unionist, have flags flying making it abundantly clear their political insincts by flying either the Union Flag or the Irish flag) and often communities are separated by "Peace Lines", walls built to stop projectiles being thrown from one side to the other, but it has the unintended effect of fostering ever more hatred and mistrust of the community on "the other side".
Believe it or not, more Peace Lines have gone up since the Good Friday Agreement than before it. That gives an idea of how while Northern Ireland is officially at peace, that peace is fragile
This is what happens when your two main political parties are sectarian. Everyone here is more concerned about "the other side" both pandering to UK and Irish governments that don't want us. A few years ago I had hope NI could work for itself but Brexit put that to bed.
As long as the DUP exists, there will always be a political crisis in Northern Ireland.
Can't believe you'd give that animal Bryson the light of day.
Fun fact: in star trek lore, Ireland reunifies in 2024. I beleive it was an armed violent uprising?
I think a peaceful reunification would be better
Don't give BinLidden any more airtime. He doesn't have a mandate for anything, and gets far too much publicity while understanding less than nothing...
Poor sense of duty. What about those civilians that these tax funded politicians are supposed to represent? Boycott for 18 months when some people are struggling to put food on the table?
"Loyalist Activist" Is a funny way of addressing drug gang spokesman Jamie "Bin liddin" Bryson
😂😂😂😂😂😂
If only there was some way of keeping NI in the union without compromising the border with Ireland. Like, for example, some sort of large economic and political organisation.
Which never ever, not once, had any explicit consent from the UK electorate to govern over us!
Taking away peoples democracy never ever ends well... So don't be so enthusiastic to destroy democracy!
The DUP are pretty much purest real-world example of that meme about the woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.
Excellent, Brexit has been the perfect tool for Scottish Independence 🏴🇪🇺 and a United Ireland.
United Ireland now!!!
YEAAAAH!!! 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Very ironic that the DUP is pulling northern ireland away from britain.
TLDR please do not give Jamie Bryson a platform
Damn, you milked that one animation for all it is worth 😂
Yet another Brexit related issue!! 😮
It's truly the gift that keeps on giving
Gift in german means poison. So it’s kind of funny if you think about it in German
@@thailux6494 Gift in Swedish has two meanings: 1. poison 2. married
woah, that was only 8 minutes? This problem is so convoluted I could've sworn this video went on for like half an hour!
Two things:
1)The DUP gambled that Brexit was going to be hard and drive a political and economic wedge between the two Irish states. This failed.
2) The slowly rising nationalist vote is unpalatable.
Unionism has been on the back seat of progress since Daniel O’Connell. We are expecting a level of pragmatism from a group that has almost never been pragmatic.
So either the researchers on this channel don’t know much about Northern Ireland or they’re dishonest. The simple fact is that the DUP have never committed to entering government under a SinnFein first minister. And they were asked. Repeatedly. For years. They never gave an answer.
And when it happened that Sinn Fein became the biggest party, they grabbed the first fig leaf they could. The protocol was that fig leaf.
Somehow, you’ve neglected to mention this even everyone who lives there knows it, even if some won’t admit it.
Rather than give a completely unbiased and unvarnished outline, you’ve done no better than traditional British media and just toed the unionist line. Rather than educating people in GB and around the world, you’ve actually left them misinformed.
This is when "both sides, iMparTiAliTy" becomes bad journalism: you start ignoring the blatant obvious truth.
Like, yes, reporting on the fact that the DUP's main reason for the boycott is that it'd be in an assembly where Sinn Féin have the most seats (even though in reality it makes not a lick of difference) does make people sjew towards one side of the issue.
But, reality and facts do favour one side of the issue and it's so patently obvious.
It's the difference between reporting "x said that about y, but then trump said this about y. make up your mind" and reporting "trump LIED about y, and here's the truth"
@@bothi00 Impartiality and equivalence are different things but more and more people seem to fail to grasp the difference.
Superb thanks.
When they say "Westminster is pushing laws that are against the will of the people" they mean things like The Northern Ireland (Executive Formation etc) Act 2019, which legalised abortion in Northern Ireland, and the two Abortion (Northern Ireland) Regulations 2020 acts which detailed how and when someone may obtain an abortion in NI. These acts have been quite popular outside the DUP's camp, though there is a nationalist counterpart in the form of Aontú - a Sinn Fein breakaway group who opposed the party's move to a pro-choice position. Aontú contest elections in both the Republic and Northern Ireland but aren't particularly popular with a total of 1 TD and 3 local government seats in the Republic and no seats in Northern Ireland.
Nobody cares.
Have they tried giving Ireland back to the Irish?
In my opinion things would not change, but only the leadership who have to deal with it. There is too many people who would still support staying with Britain and probably wage a blood civil war just to go back to them. I say this, even tho I believe Ireland should be whole again...
A big reason NI hasn't re-unified yet is because of the potential backlash from the sorts of people you get in the DUP, Unionist paramilitaries could even launch a terror campaign - they bombed Dublin during the troubles
Thanks, but no thanks. It is your mess, you can keep it. 💚💚🤍🤍🧡🧡
What?! ... and get banned by the BBC!
Because Protestant groups during the push for Irish independence appealed to remain part of the UK to avoid being ruled by Irish Catholics, whats your point?@RemoanersRtossers
Before even watching, no.
As sombody who lives in Belfast, I can say without a doubt the main thing people want is the executive to sit so that the cost of living crisis, fuel crisis and health service crisis are resolved. A boarder is maybe the 10th priority.
Understandable, but (honest question) can a devolved and devided NI assembly solve any of these issues?
Fun fact many protestants in North Ireland have voted SF, at this point I think North Ireland would be better of as independent nation or part of Ireland, UK is just a mess right now both economically and politically
Demographic change will solve the Northern Ireland problem. Catholics already outnumber Protestants in N. I. . In about a decade from now, a referendum to join the Republic will pass and Ireland will be reunited and that will be that.
Traditionally opinion polling has shown that about 17% of Catholics in Northern Ireland want Northern Ireland to remain in the UK but only 5% of Protestants want a united Ireland. However, Brexit has caused larger numbers in both groups to consider a united Ireland. There's a decline in both Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland as secularism and non-church adherence advances. There are also an increasing number of other religious groups, such as Muslims. Also mainland European Catholics and Protestants who've settled in Northern Ireland don't necessarily vote along expected Catholic/Protestant lines. It's not just Northern Ireland (the smaller 6 county jurisdiction) which has to vote to join Ireland (the much larger 26 county jurisdiction), but also Ireland has to vote, on the same day, to join Northern Ireland. There are housing estates in Northern Ireland with KAI (meaning kill all Irish) scrawled on the walls. That may serve as a deterrent to some people in Ireland in regard to whether they'll vote to unite with Northern Ireland. The majority British population in Northern Ireland still outnumbers the Irish, and it will be a longer than a decade before the two referenda will pass. I am nevertheless hopeful that a united Ireland will occur at some point in the next 50 to 60 years.
I certainly hope so.
@@odunadhaigh The Republic of Ireland ( 26 county jurisdiction) is currently over 80% in favour of voting for a united Ireland. On the day of a poll I would imagine that the vote in favor would be 85% to 90%.
@@bustabloodvessel5327 Yes, it's likely to pass as things stand at present. Credible threats by the UVF/UDA might depress that >80% figure, when in several decades time, referenda are called in each jurisdiction. Nevertheless, the original poster seemed to think that Ireland could simply be forced into joining with Northern Ireland and that there wasn't even any need for a referendum, except in NI. The time for Ireland being forced by the British (or anybody else) is long gone!
I don't think religion is the key factor in this any more. This is going to come down to the economy. The real impact of brexit hasn't been witnessed yet. Once it comes into full effect the the discrepancy in social mobility between Ireland and the UK will become painfully obvious to those in NI. Then they'll vote to leave. I think this will be sometime during the 2030's.
Even if this one finishes, this won't be the last of petty crises.
There's only one way to end all of this shite...
You think reunification will end the "shite"? Imagine the DUP in the Dail.
There is a really easy solution to the Northern Ireland crisis: have a referendum on Reunification. The polls indicate that the numbers are about there. Considering how horrible the Tories and the DUP are at campaigning, I think that now is the time to push for Reunification.
I'll admit I'm just a dumb American, but i can't help but remember the star trek quote.
I think we sort this crisis by having the entirety of the uk join ireland thus ending the issue
Not join Ireland.
Rejoin the EU.
Cromwell, is that you?
Let the Irish Blood thrive!
@@AtakenSmith the irish empire will rule the waves!
@@gerardflynn7382 more like the eu should join ireland, thats the only way the eu will survive is by surrendering their boarders to the irish, you're either with them or against them.
It's been broken since 1920
facts. illegitimate, settler colonial state. was an apartheid state that had a whole ass civil rights movement
Thank you TLDR
no really sure what the point of elections are anyway when it is powersharing. They could get 10 % of the vote and still have equal say . Alliance could have 90 % vote and not be able to do anything
Why don't they just join the rest of Ireland that's basically the best option
That would be to admit their whole cultural identity which is based entirely on hating everything Irish is ended.
@@SirAntoniousBlock Correct. Proceed, dear people of Northern Ireland.
Many of them can't even admit they're Irish let along join the Republic of Ireland. If thyre so pro British and pro Brexit then move to Wales! They know their place
DUP try not to be awful challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
"Where did you get that money?"
I tried to use Pound notes obtained in N.I. in London.
I find stressing the last word in each and every sentence or half sentence very hard to bear and to focus.
The demographics are and continue to change and not in the unionists favour. Best they can do is try to ease themselves into some kind of relevance in a united Ireland . Thats the future
It's not brexit it's the fact they are the second party and will have to be deputy first minister. That's the only reason. They know full well they can't change British government trade policy so it's what they base their objection on. It's petty but so incredibly obvious.
Even a short explainer such as this one should have mentioned that this isn’t just a matter of the DUP and Westminster coming to an agreement.
The EU also would have to agree to any change of post-Brexit procedures. But it wouldn’t, since all the DUP want are special favors at the expense of the integrity of the EU market.
The people of China, including us in Hong Kong, fully support the self-determination of the peoples of Scotland, Wales and for English to leave Falklands and Northern Ireland.
*26 + 6 = 1*
Seeing as the world is all about everybody’s equal.. y doesn’t Ireland be Ireland? the British done enough damage to the Irish people.
I big concern is that region would become united and that could be a recipe for clashes among the population.
Very good topic bec i was wondering what are they planning on northdern ireland
I don’t think you guys used the animation of the logo’s of SF and the DUP having arrows going tot the NI assembly enough.
Are you guys sure you got your money’s worth on that one?
Not to complicate the video too much, but the description of the situation is a bit off.
There are nationalists, unionists, none of the above, and then "sectarian" sides.
It's important to understand that the majority of NI have moved on and accepted living side by side. The nationalist v unionist decision is just another political decision like any other.
But the "sectarians" mostly represented by the DUP, never accepted peace. Ever since being founded by Ian Paisley, they have fought against power sharing with catholics. And against every act of equality for indigenous Irish people.
If you're wondering why they supported brexit, when it's was so damaging to the union, then it helps to think of it that way. The DUP are sectarian first, unionist second. A peaceful status quo with catholics having equal rights fundamentally irks them.
It's not just the first time that a nationalist party is the largest. It's the first time a non-protestant, non member of the protestant Orange Order, would sit as First Minister of NI in 100 years. A lot wonder how much that really drives the boycott.
Funny thing is that a bridge or tunnel is only 13 miles , but would only benefit Scotland so government wouldn't consider it
I can’t believe a united Ireland might happen in my lifetime. I grew up in the U.S. and was always told that the North hated the neighbors in the south. Now being an adult, the North wants to join its southern neighbors. That is incredible.
England and wales wanted out of EU but had to drag Scotland and north Ireland's to get it. Now they have eat their exit.
they are one country, it's not dragging them out of the EU, remoaners really hate democracy
We voted as one country. It’s not very difficult to understand..
From the US it sounds like the DUP is NI’s very own version of our GOP. Or is it vice versa?
yeah pretty much
It's like the GOP except the obstructionism is actually backfiring.
@@sploster938 To be honest, the DUP is a lot more radical and incompetent. At least the GOP has produced some competent leaders. Ronald Reagan despite his religious tendencies is regarded as a fairly good and competent president for example. I really struggle to even think of any good or competent DUP politician.
Ha ha ha seeing old Binman Bryaon on a TLDR video has me creased
Next, unification... 100 years overdue.
The unionist vote is currently dropping by approximately 1% every year. The orange, sectarian statelet that was Northern Ireland in years gone by is history,.we are now in a transitional period where the place is becoming increasingly green until finally an inflexion point iwill be arrived at when a majority of voters opt for Irish unification. Demography is destiny.
It's going "other" more than anything else. And they view reunification in diverse ways.
Ireland should be one country.
Under the United Kingdom.
@@DaDARKPass Fuck no.
@@DaDARKPass England can't manage itself, let alone occupy Wales, Scotland and NI. It's why the UK should break up. England needs to be on its own, for everyone else's sake.
Under the UK 🇬🇧 I agree
Absolutely not under the United Kingdom they don’t give a shit about Northern Ireland. I would like to see my country reunited. It will happen one day. You can take your crumbling United Kingdom which is failing and mess up your own country and hand Northern Ireland back. The people’s views are changing and brexit has made it a lot easier to change the norths minds. It nearly put the Good Friday agreement at risk and we don’t need anymore issues. Britain has caused enough problems. Hopefully Scotland will become independant. Good luck then!