Han is PISSED When A Player EXPOSES His Cards Early
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2024
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Han is 100% right
He was right but if he bluffed Eric would have beat him in the pot
@@forrestgreen6765 doesn’t matter. It’s a matter of principle!
It's only a penalty and a warning to kirk... everyone needs to chill the fuck out. I doubt he'll do that again
@@MIkedevon99 you should not player poker at this level
@KijjiSale it's a friendly game amongst almost millionaires. Some of which are drunk. It's a mistake and that's it... put it to bed and shut ya mouth
Han is correct, I’d be ticked off as well. You’re giving another player a big piece of information that is crucial in the situation.
exactly, Hard for Han to represent a full house or straight after this.
stop making up lies, nik never reveals his holdings during a hand, unless its heads up@ptaeiy
Person wasn't going anywhere. But yeah. It cost Perrson money and saved Han money.
It was even worse when that Kirk literally show both cards to Eric after he flipped the J
Wtf Brent plays Poker?
Go on a live stream buddy
Kudos to Han for saying something and being as composed and respectful as possible. Solid.
Yeah he said something but I could not understand a word. But he was absolutely right.
@@Schnixxxxx we was basically saying what if i wanted to try to buy the pot which was def an option with the board but after basically showing 2 of the cards that would make his hand better it takes the option off the table
@@Schnixxxxx he would have got called in my opinion but you dont give information away that affects the play and decisions of people who are still in the hand
@@Schnixxxxx Broken English but then he busted out the: *"But we can't cross the line, right??"* -and every American was like "Oh sht, he's right actually" 😆
Dude was lying straight up saying he didn’t know Han was in the hand! He literally said twice during his tank that Han wasn’t going to do anything anyways, so it was “basically heads up” between him and Person. How much of a coward do you have to be.
It sure felt like he was in collusion with Eric. How does he fold QJ against AQ with that board? I'm positive he was showing Eric the J to give him info against Han.
yes exactly, he knew he was in the hand cos he said he's folding anyway, meaning Han, then said sorry he didn't know Han was in the hand?? straight up liar
Yeah. At least Han handled it pretty well.
i think he initially forgot that hn was in the hand when he showed one card but then when they told him han was in hand he acted like he knew but then it backfired at him
@@khalidalshammari3566 don't think so cos he clearly says, he's folding anyway meaning Han so made out like it was heads up when it wasn't
Han is 1000000% right. Very disrespectful and unprofessional for that player to show his hand when Han is next to act. Also, Eric would have made more money if Han did bluff and he called. I would have left the table after that.
Kirk knew Han was in the hand he said a few times that Han has nothing!
the dealer needs to take control of the table
yes!
She’s grateful to be able to even deal to these rich mfs she’s not gonna get out of line this isn’t just a 1/2 game where people tip $5
Ive seen a dealer try to control their table when a "whale" was getting out of line. But becuase they loose like 100k a month the pit boss said let him be.
To be fair, a lot of these streamed games run very similar to home games where the players are permitted to do (almost) anything they want.
At the end of the day she's just a poor girl dealing, little to no authority can be exerted and/or respected from her. For these reasons, women should not be allowed to deal these kinds of games.
Eric should be just as upset or more. Han was saved from punting off his chips to Eric.
stop spewing nonsense. eric should be upset but not as much as Han. Kirk showing him prevents Han to represent a full house or straight. Eric is not calling Hans raises/bluffs 100% of the time.
@@KC-gr7xz- Eric wouldn’t call a raise? You’ve never seen him play apparently lol. AQ in that spot is like the nuts for Eric, in his mind.
If they were jead to head, but you're always forgetting there's 3 in the hand. Kirk showing and Han bluff raising would have Eric absolutely questioning if he walked into a straight or even full house. It's not 100% but it's certainly not 0% either!
that eric isnt at least a little angry proves how bad of a poker player he is
Good point !
Han is right, the dude shouldn’t show or talk about his card while there are other people still in the game, this is not poker get rid of that guy🔥
He didn't know he was in the hand? He said several times he knew he had Han beat and Han was folding
kirk bs artist
I'm glad somebody else pointed that out. I was going to say the same thing that there really wasn't any way that Kirk's story adds up at all based on what you said. He knew that the other person was in the hand as you are pointing out so his story is complete bullshit. I think if nothing else, he just didn't really care and maybe just had a brain fart.
At the moment he showed, I can believe he forgot Han was in the hand, and directly after, when realizing he’s still in, he begins trying to defend why he showed even after realizing Han was still in.
Thats the most generous interpretation of “He didn’t know Han was in” that I can justify.
End of the day, folding or not, Han was last to act, never show cards until the hand is over.... period
Han 100% correct
If your last to act and u know your only calling its ok to show and have a little fun.
@@themannodoubt8657 yeah well you can't assume someone will do that, most of the time that's not the case.
You can’t assume your own decision? I think you’ve misunderstood what he’s saying
Who the fuck flips over cards 3 handed?
scumbags
Answer
The Kirk dude does😂
Kirk, dealer, and commentator were all bunch of idiots. Non of them understand the rules until Han spoke up. You just don’t expose cards or talk in the middle of the hands. If I were Han, I would just start cursing and screaming at Kirk in the middle of the hand for being disrespectful.
THIS IS WHAT GETS PEOPLE ANGRY.HOW COME THE POKER DEALER DID NOT ACT AND SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT THERE ARE 3 PEOPLE IN THE HAND REGARDLESS HE SHOWED A JACK
Although the dealer should have said something, the reality is, the damage was already done as soon as the card was turned over so what are they really going to be able to do? Unfortunately, the dealer in these games probably really doesn't have much authority to do much of anything. Sure, they are supposed to keep control of the game and do many things but the reality is, these people are millionaires and in some cases like Eric persons, billionaires. The whole reason why people are watching the streams is to see these types of people play so you're going to see a few more things that you may be wouldn't normally see. And as a result, the dealer is probably not really going to be able to do much of anything for the most part. But again, what could they have done at that point anyway other than mention that there was somebody else in the hand. Even doing that doesn't change anything because the card was already shown so it doesn't really matter if the dealer does say something. The influence is already going to be there prior to the dealer saying anything.
Understand that high limit tv games are very different than regular games. Meaning, much of the times, they let the fish get away with things that are normally enforced 100% of the time in a normal poker room setting. Like others stated, it’s more relaxed like a private game or home game. For example, Eric Persons swearing, antics, and flipping people off are grounds for him to be kicked out, however, it makes for good tv. With that being said, showing cards in multi way action should not be allowed even in this instance with these groups of people. It’s clear half these players are serious players and dont like these types of playstyles. What I’m trying to get at, is don’t take it out on the dealer when theyre told most times that these are more like private home games, where the players usually do things that arent allowed in normal cash games. The pros let the whales get away with things more than regular players, and they don’t want dealers to keep telling them No, no, no, when all they do is donk off chips. There IS a fine line between letting players get away with things that no one minds, and enforcing rules that might deter players from enjoying a private home game. Unfortunately for dealers, it is a lose lose scenario.
Han is absolutely correct.
Is your sister is correct as well?
Yes.@@YallaMiami
Kirk was literally telling eric he has the other Q
Han is correct. Kirk was out of line here.
I've seen a bunch of comments about how it was the dealer's job to step in here. The fact of the matter is that in a high stakes game like this you have to do what Han did and stand up for yourself-the dealer's not going to give you any help. I've talked to dealers who work at the Aria and they've told me that in the high stakes suite they are specifically instructed to dummy up and deal. They understand the players run that game and will deal with breaches of etiquette/rules themselves. If you as a dealer try to insert yourself into that process the players will run you right out of that game and you won't be getting any more downs in there.
Han also had perfect blockers to run a massive bluff.
dealer looks right over at han. dude says, "he doesn't care."
after rewatching this i'm surprised han didn't tip the table over and start swinging. they'd be pulling me off of that dude. not only was it illegal in a 100k hand it's disrespectful. that little old grey bag of wind would be in harm's way.
Han is 100% correct, Kirk took away his bluff option, glad to see he owned up to it, don't believe it did it at all w/any ill intent
Nope there wasn’t any malice; he’s just an extremely stupid individual
Han and Eric both have a right to be pissed here.
If it’s heads up, sure you can reveal one or even both your cards if you want to (altho in my opinion never a good idea).
But when there’s more than one other player in the pot, this is tampering with the table.
Even if you folded an irrelevant 2 7 pre-flop, that’s information that could skew the actual poker play on the table.
These guys act like people at your local 1-2 game😂
🤣😂🤣☝🏽
Pol in the 1-2 will never even get why K10 is a good bluffing hands, come on now 😂
Except 1-2 has a higher level of skill
@@blockchaindailynewsi doubt most of these clowns do either
Kirk is a fool. Put his name in this UA-cam video title. Hell, you put Han's name in the title. Sheesh.
2:38
Dumb : I HAVE A QUEEN !!!
I HAD A QUEEN BUDDY!!!!
.. we all know that's not point ... 😂😂😂
Doesnt matter whether u lose or win the hand, never show your cards until the round is over.
craziest thing is he gets the AJ the next hand dealt which would have been the nuts, which exactly was the point he was making when he said u showed the J which ruins his bluff.
Also, completely lying when he said he thought Han wasn’t in the hand because he said ‘I have Han’s ass beat’ before he flipped the jack.
He is right.
Kirk always trying to be the cool guy acting like a genius. Shut up already. Give him 45k then MR Kirk . But he won’t 😏
"You're right, but I had a queen, I had trips"
He has no idea why Han is upset about him showing Persson cards that Han can't have if he wants to bet. I know they guy is a fish but damn, its not like he showed a deuce, that Jack was an important card
There must be a penalty for both the player and the dealer!
When you have action behind you, you absolutely cannot talk, let alone show a card(s).
Han is not a native speaker, proud of him for speaking up for himself. It’s a poker game if you keeping across the line who’s going to come play? His make a very good point. Good fold Kirk but please don’t show your cards when action pending.
Kirk showed contrition. I didn't see the whole stream but I'd imagine the rest of the game ran smoothly after this. Han was absolutely right to bring it up.
“He doesn’t care, he’s folding.” That’s so messed up.
It's messed up, but he was right also.
At least he owned it, respect
He lying!!
he said “that’s my first my fault”. backhanded apology, he lied as well and definitely was aware han was still in the habd
Bullshit move
He didn’t own shit 😂
Han is right but it's an easier fold now
that's beside the point.
Yeah but he talks also 🤦🏽♂️ . Talking about he wanted to bluff persson, persson is a calling station No one bluffs him because he calls off nearly all bets
@tarekdavidoff4607 that's besides the point
Easy because you can see the cards
Doesn't matter if it was intentional. You don't do that. Point blank.. no discussion
Han was absolutely right. Showing a card before the hand was over gives information and at this level, information is priceless.
Han is absolutely right 😃
😃
Kirk knew Han was there he said it. Kirk is just a recreational having fun he doesn’t understand better. Now he does
yeah I don't think Kirk was TRYING to do any nefarious... just a rec. who made a bonehead play without thinking of the implications
Surely the dealer should say something, I would have defo called the floor
Han is correct. In a tournament it’s a one hand on the rail penalty for a first infraction. There’s no recourse in a cash game.
Only a King of Poker could give such an insightful breakdown
Han coulda used this to his advantage actually and has the perfect hand to do it with two blockers to the boats. If Eric knows this guy folds a queen then that means Han HAS to have a boat or a bluff. It would be amazing if Han went all in.
yeah unfortunately persson is snapping there 100% of times
Persson would call with a ham sandwich
u have no clue. kirks holdings has Hans full house and straight outs, giving more confidence to Erics hand. only a disadvantage
@@KC-gr7xz not true as nobody would agree with that. Eric would know all the Queens are accounted for and it's a polar spot so it's either a full house or nothing if he ships it. Han has literally the single best hand per a solver to send it as a bluff in that spot. Eric might call but you can put the screws to someone. UA-cam the hand where Doug tried to bluff Patrick Antonius with a counterfeited two pair. It would almost be the same spot and Patrick was close to folding. Eric folded AA correctly before on a stream so he's capable of laying down a monster.
That is absolutely terrible logic
Every video I say they need to stop this flipping cards bs unreal
couldn't agree more. It is an angle shoot. they're looking for a reaction from the opponent and they also get reactions from the other players, which could influence their decision. one player to a hand.
and yet when there allin they never wanna flip there hands over lol that bugs the sh it outta me
Disgrace that none of the other players spoke up though, clearly wanted him to tilt. Racist Americans -= standard
Love Han guy seems like a good guy
Kudos to both one for saying something
And the other for admiting he screwed up
Han wanted to rep King Queen but can't because kirk basically said he has a Queen. But Eric is calling anyway, Eric should also be pissed because he would've made way more money.
Han 1,000,000 % right.
I can see Han's point when relating to bluffs but in the bigger picture this situation happening gives Han a major advantage... He gets extra information while still not having acted. If anything Person should be the one getting pissed as it kills his action (by someone either folding a K, or possibly even bluffing with worse).
Yeah Han is spot on…. That other guy should show some class and just fold if he’s folding but like most douche bags at a poker table and in life, they don’t know shiiiiiiit
the guy that shows his J you can tell he has no respect with Han especially when he says to Han... "you not gonna do nothing"
100% right. He wasnt last to act. He did all his thinking out loud and giving Eric a shit ton of information making Han not be able to defend his chips in the pot.
He saved Han money in the end. Han should be glad he got out instead of losing all his chips. No bet was going to be big enough to scare Perrson out of the hand.
Showing cards taking about hands they have and other players sat there ,,very bad were s the ref 😮
Han is right. EVERYONE ELSE NEEDS TO STOP TALKING.
Han is 100% Correct!
Yeah fuck that ! You gotta respect the others. Im glad Han said something
Isn’t Han the guy who slow rolled on HCL, when he had AA and asked for a count heads up against someone who was all in ?
Kirk is such a trash player for this. These types live in their own world because no one ever calls them out for their BS. 💯
The dealer was out of her league on this one. Gotta protect the integrity of the game and say something...geez!
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Han is 1000% rite I hope Kirk paid for his dinner that day
they two sharing information
yeah Han is right here. It's much harder to represent AJ or J9 for a straight when the Jack is exposed.
Han is 110% correct. Doesn't matter what the stakes are, you never expose your hand to another player in a multi way pot when there's still action. NEVER.
I mad they acting like it didn’t matter because he would had lost, saying you don’t wanna bluff me when you can even beat the worse straight on the board let alone any full house
This also applies to players mucking their hand out of turn. For example, a three way pot after the river and the first player checks and the second player open mucks. Now the third player only has to bluff the first player to win. There is no penalty in a cash game for these actions. I'm not sure how we enforce something without a penalty.
Totally different scenarios to be comparing. It's perfectly legal to fold without action
Respect for han for real, I’ve always liked him more then the other Asian players, this just brings him to my top 3 favorite
Though I didn't understand a word he said, Han is absolutely right. This is f... up.
Han is correct here. Also good for him for staying composed and mature. I would be ticked as well, it's one thing to talk it through out loud, its another thing to show your hand when you're not heads up. Kirk should have admitted his fault immediately. He only did it after pressure from others
Han is correct. There’s too much nonsense going on in these high stakes games now the game of poker is secondary to the theatrics
Agree he should not have showed a card with another person in the hand, don't think there was anything intentional but he did acknowledge that he Han, is folding so he did know he was in the hand. He just didn't want to gamble with Eric so that's why he folded, it wasn't a good read at all.....
Not only did he show the Jack to everyone, he also flashed one of his two cards to Eric later. Don’t know if it was the Jack or the Queen. This would have been very ugly if Eric didn’t have Han beat. The guy was wrong on every level.
Yea, don't be throwing your hand around....NUFF SAID
What terrible etiquette for showing a card when two others are in the hand. He must be an egotistical narcissist to not give a shite about anyone else or the rules.
han is in the right. doesnt matter what you think when you are not the last player to act, kirk flipping over his card gave his opp (eric) information.
yeah its bs how players fold out of turn and show cards while folding. poker players have become so brash and arrogant.
No one else (commentators and players) said a word about Kirk exposing his card with Han next to act.
Han is 100% right. If kirk does it again id call out for collusion. Eric should he pissed too cuz if han decides to bluff all in then Eric calls n would have got more money
Han is 100% correct here and the other player needs to be seriously penalized.
Kirk sucks. Terrible player. Terrible etiquette and terrible attitude about it. Rooted in racism and entitlement if you ask me
Dealer should have immediately told him he cannot be showing his cards and maybe even called the floor. Rules are rules.
The biggest person that should be upset is Eric. Han was thinking about bluffing. Eric may have still called and could've won more.
Intent does not matter. Kirk knew Han was still in the hand. Eric loses his mind if the roles are reversed.
Anyone who shows their hand whilst others are still in it, should receive progressive penalties: 1st offense: banned from the poker room for a day. 2nd offense: A week, 3rd: a month…Etc…
This 100% collision Kirk and Eric
Obviously into it so
He's not showing a player who has already folding. He's showing the player who made a bet and could call or fold a jam after. That's crazy
Kirk had a lot of nerve getting loud at this guy
Just out of curiosity, whose responsibility is it to enforce the rules? Is it the dealer, or do you have to call the arbiter. 😊
shitt i be fighting, cussing, making threats, this dude got off easy
he shows jack face up, but later he shows a card to Eric and says “I have this.” Assuming that’s the queen, he showed Eric both his cards and totally eliminates Han’s ability to bluff.
Yeah they tried to isolate the oriental 😂
Han’s absolutely right. You don’t show or flash cards when there’s 3 or more people in the hand. Only beginners should make that mistake, not recreational or professional players.
He admitted just to end it .Not out of remorse -I mean it cost the guy a potential huge win .
Why isn't the dealer saying anything when it happened?????
The integrity of this game is flying out the window.
Eric is the one who should honestly be tilted af. But Han is 100% completely correct!!! Good thing Han on calling his ass out! Regardles Eric calls there like 1000% of the time lmao.
How can they argue this just admit it