Correct, that's why she is never on today's modern era of live streams...glad to see her blacklisted from the poker community. Using the drunk card? That's such an entitled punk move
And watching Mercier deny the 100k buyout offer thinking he's a poker god is actually hilarious. He easily could have fleeced Vanessa but really thought he'd win 3 bracelets in one series lmao XD
So per Vanessa if anyone she's felted came back to her later on and said they were drunk and made a mistake...she would give them their money back. I really wonder the outcome of that conversation.
It was a stupid bet that might not have been paid out if it won. Vanessa had no idea have much you can manipulate your win chances. Rebuy tournaments you just blast until you have a stack. He even lost a heads-up, that just shows Mercier is an honest player. He could have paid him to win. 180 to 1 is obv shit odds untill a world class player bets it and goes hard for it.
I was in the audience in 2016 watching Jason getting presented with his second bracelet and I remember thinking, this guy is absolutely crushing it. I was actually surprised he didn't win another one.
Vanessa's $1k buyout offer was ridiculous. The $100k offer was way more reasonable - locking in $100k when he is still 2 bracelets short. Altho 180 to 1 seems insane (and could certainly be disasterous financially) it's almost surely under-priced. Wining 3 bracelets is hard. Doing it in one given year is astronomical, even for a top pro.
Boy, if we had to cancel every bet that was made by a drunk person we wouldn't have that many bets left. Vanessa Selbst is a player you loved to hate. She just made it so easy.
It’s intriguing because I honestly think that the only reason jason didn’t let her buy out is because he said in an interview it would take a shockingly low amount of money for him to walk away from poker forever. 5 million is the number I think hr mentioned? If he had all his own action this would have got him damn close.
he pretty much did anyway, he was out for atleast couple of years, now hes back playing abit, but not that much, was playing pineapple for few more years as well. Not a grinder life for sure anymore.
did you finish the video, jason only got to 2 bracelet's that year, so he lost 10,000 to her in this bet. he didn't accept either buyout of 1k or 100k.
This Vanessa is the Danicrash Patrick of Poker. All fluff and no substance. Every time there’s a video of someone getting owned at a poker table, this lady is featured in it. She’s also insufferable.
If the bet was 1.8M for three bracelets, Vanessa should have offered 600K to back out after Jason winning the first bracelet. No way 100K is a “generous” offer.
Her math was fine. Jason could easily take that $100,000 or $110,000. Not sure if her offer includes his initial $10,000. Then he sells action that he will win 2 more bracelets at 18 to 1 or higher. Which he would have been able to do easy. We know this because she was selling action at 25 to 1 as a hedge.
I would still have empathy towards the other person if they came to me offering buy out. Especially because she approached him before he played in any event asking.
so u mean to tell me she feels the privelege of acting like she deserves to get whatever she wants after the fact? No, really??? I wonder where she got that brainwashed into her head?
a good ten to one payoff, but 180 to one is far better I think basically it was prompting him to play every possible event so he won in either case because of cashes
Legally? Probably nothing. But she would basically get blackballed from the poker/gambling community of degenerates that she would ever want to sell action, bet with, play high stakes cash with. No more invites from your friends to private poker games with the whales, etc
Honestly though she made a good bet, easily probably over 1000-1 to bink 3 braclets in one summer. Plus she offered 100k buyout, yea im taking the 100k, someone whonis already giving u a hard time about the bet probably eont pay you if u win. Take the 100k.
mathmatically he should've needed better than 180-1 against to take the bet in the first place, and yes, that same math would say he should've taken the 100 when offered to take a slam dunk 90,000 profit. but probably didn't for same reason people buy a lottery ticket, or bet ever in roulette against a casino or a parlay bet against a bookie, you put in a small amount and dream of the huge score. difference between at least 99% of those in here commenting and j.mercier in 2016 (probably still now too) is that to him 10,000 isn't a lot of money. in every one of these bets mentioned your payout on the backend isn't commensurate to the odds of you winning, thus a bad bet. he clearly found it more valuable to possibly win this bet than just take the 90,000 profit. her fears of having to maybe some small % of the time owe him 2 mil lead to her offering a horrible "here just take this 100,000 (90,000 profit) so i don't have to worry for the next weeks of losing 2 mil to you".
The first rule of gambling is, do not bet with money you can not afford to lose. Selbst is the Helmuth of female poker players. Whines everytime she loses a hand.
Wild that he didn't accept 100k buy out after winning 1 bracelet though tbh that's like 18:1 to win 2 bracelets with the rest of the series. He has to have massive confidence in his game to think he'd be a favourite to win 2 bracelets+ once every 18 years. But tbh maybe he is.
@naswiipp I personally witnessed him being surrounded and questioned by security. As well, know the Florida poker player who's backpack it was. It's interesting that no poker media has mentioned anything about it. Even though many know.
this was the most surprising part of this whole video too for me, it appears both j.mercier and at the time girlfriend (now wife) both had the dog with them in their laps during WSOP events.
Was I the only one waiting to hear that she was in fact paid the $10,000 for winning the bet? ...weird that after all that, the youtuber didn't think to mention it.
yep, biggest piece of evidence about the level of POS somebody is that on day 1 of thinking to welch they offer 1,000 on a 1.8 mil bet (so if this one is agreed to he'd just be losing 9,000 with no chance to win anything), the next day it goes up to 100,000.
the 1,000 buy out "offer" makes her seem more inebriated than the original bet does. in what world would somebody as rich at the time as j.mercier ever accept a 9,000 guaranteed loss when 1. he can afford to lose 10,000 easily (true this for sure) and 2. was in pretty decent shape to win 1.8 mil (he had won 1 already), esp if he thought the original bet was a good enough one to take (180-1 against him winning 3 bracelet's in 2016); i'd say anybody should've been getting better than 180-1 against on 3 bracelets for sure, but that might just be me. in the years after 2016 this could be argued to be slightly less true, as there are more and more bracelet's every year, more now than in 2016.
Not paying a bet like that would be the end of her poker career. A lot of the high stakes poker world is built on IOUs and buying/swapping action. You get one chance with your reputation, and then you're done. The internet is forever. Would it be worth the 1.8 milly to have your legacy be that of a thieving, lying, scumbag? For some people, yeah. I think she would have paid if she lost, personally.
@@TakePoker What? Mike Matusow and the 2 million Ted Forest weight loss bet happened. He welched. He is still around and still gets backing. You are wrong. Brandon Barnes is another example. Guy went on a 100k+ scamming binge and was known to have an opiate addiction. he was still able to get backing.
Are you kidding, Jennifer couldn't hold Vanessa bra,I don't understand why people think a lot of these players are good, when you have money and busting out means I just run to another tournament,how's that make you good, I've watched both players and by far Vanessa I soooo much better,now can Jenifer Tilly act, outstanding actress,just watched Thema and Louise again fantastic Jennifer,and for her boyfriend he's another overrated and I mean overrated player, I play very rarely don't have money, just a poor old working man for 47 years,and I would without win a tournament if I could throw away my money
for a sec there thought you were talking about jen harman; she still like near daily plays the nose bleed cash games in vegas. mostly limit games, as per her specialty for decades by now. she also doesn't appear to age much. fairly recently her and negreanu (who if you weren't sure was an ex-boyfriend was made sure on this viewcast) were on some poker cash game show and her comments about their past were so open it seemed to actually embarass negreanu (there was a pretty clear sounding sexual act mentioned), it was funny.i forget the name of the show and it's entire lineup, but c.soto from solve for why was in it.
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Vanessa has to be the most insufferable poker player ever. She's just unpleasant all the time
She looks like a dude and has self esteem issues
Correct, that's why she is never on today's modern era of live streams...glad to see her blacklisted from the poker community.
Using the drunk card? That's such an entitled punk move
probably has to do with the fact that she does not have kids and does not have a husband to calm her
money will do that
Raise you Martin kabrel
Just two dudes betting on cards and now and one trying to back out of the deal.....happens every day
Yeah we caught that. Stay classy!
Haha truth!
lol 😂😂😂
@@timmyp34 i almost missed it lol
Did she try to back out? She offered him 100k. I bet he wishes he took that now.
3:39 Watching her try to bet against herself at worse odds in order to buy-out for a forced loss is amazing.
And watching Mercier deny the 100k buyout offer thinking he's a poker god is actually hilarious. He easily could have fleeced Vanessa but really thought he'd win 3 bracelets in one series lmao XD
So per Vanessa if anyone she's felted came back to her later on and said they were drunk and made a mistake...she would give them their money back.
I really wonder the outcome of that conversation.
Woman privilege
@@toynoob2051gay woman liberal privilege
@@chexcollects ewwww, you are right. Can't believe I didn't think of that. +1 bro
@@chexcollects she is not gay, she let me hit in 06, amazon style bro, was CASH
It was a stupid bet that might not have been paid out if it won. Vanessa had no idea have much you can manipulate your win chances. Rebuy tournaments you just blast until you have a stack. He even lost a heads-up, that just shows Mercier is an honest player. He could have paid him to win. 180 to 1 is obv shit odds untill a world class player bets it and goes hard for it.
I was in the audience in 2016 watching Jason getting presented with his second bracelet and I remember thinking, this guy is absolutely crushing it. I was actually surprised he didn't win another one.
Vanessa's $1k buyout offer was ridiculous. The $100k offer was way more reasonable - locking in $100k when he is still 2 bracelets short. Altho 180 to 1 seems insane (and could certainly be disasterous financially) it's almost surely under-priced. Wining 3 bracelets is hard. Doing it in one given year is astronomical, even for a top pro.
Boy, if we had to cancel every bet that was made by a drunk person we wouldn't have that many bets left. Vanessa Selbst is a player you loved to hate. She just made it so easy.
That Selbst guy was lucky not losing that bet
He's not likeable
It’s intriguing because I honestly think that the only reason jason didn’t let her buy out is because he said in an interview it would take a shockingly low amount of money for him to walk away from poker forever. 5 million is the number I think hr mentioned? If he had all his own action this would have got him damn close.
he pretty much did anyway, he was out for atleast couple of years, now hes back playing abit, but not that much, was playing pineapple for few more years as well. Not a grinder life for sure anymore.
wow vanessa is one of the most toxic characters of the poker community.... warms to heart to see Mercier take her wealth
Vanessa won the bet though...
@@PippaPeerless no she didnt lol
@@nathanhouterman3440 technically won the bet of 10k. lost much more than 10k hedging against though. warms my heart too!
@@andrewdinns1746 hehehehe
did you finish the video, jason only got to 2 bracelet's that year, so he lost 10,000 to her in this bet. he didn't accept either buyout of 1k or 100k.
If Vanessa wins, she’ll finally be able to afford a hair cut.
Thank you, I came here just to say how stupid it looks.
I can hear Vanessa saying "Why am I doing this to myself? Every time!"
Jason is a great player, cash game as well. HIs dog looks like mine. I am cheering for him.
Lol 😂
@andyh9030 this guy lol best comment
@mikewilliams3509 haha yea it was the dog affinity 🤣 I can relate
My dog is a bitch and named Vanessa.
He got as close as he could possibly get, that’s for sure.
thank you Cpt Obvious
So the lesson is this. If you want to succeed in life, make a bet against Vanessa Selbst.
Jasons one of my favorite players, because he won and didnt get greedy and degene it away.
I actually played 1/2 no limit against her at O'Shea's in Vegas back in the day. She was insufferable and pissed drunk then too 🤣
Proves she is 'classless' . . . in her mind - just give her the money, nobody has skills to beat her.
This Vanessa is the Danicrash Patrick of Poker. All fluff and no substance. Every time there’s a video of someone getting owned at a poker table, this lady is featured in it. She’s also insufferable.
how can one person create such bad for PR for himself.
Venessa is a really good player but her attitude sucks. She’s a sore winner.
even worse loser
Yeah 6 betting with j 7 is a really good poket player lol
She’s insanely over rated
If the bet was 1.8M for three bracelets, Vanessa should have offered 600K to back out after Jason winning the first bracelet. No way 100K is a “generous” offer.
that's not how odds work
Tell me you don’t understand math without saying you don’t understand math
Her math was fine. Jason could easily take that $100,000 or $110,000. Not sure if her offer includes his initial $10,000. Then he sells action that he will win 2 more bracelets at 18 to 1 or higher. Which he would have been able to do easy. We know this because she was selling action at 25 to 1 as a hedge.
What an odd fellow Vanessa is.
Vanessa looks like the type of person that should stay away from drinking LOL
shes the type that looks better with drinking
"Shook the poker word"...😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Vanessa is the most masculine man at any poker table
I don't care if you're drinking or smoking crack, if you make a bet and shake on it then you pay. In life, you bet with your head not your ass!
this is her taking advantage of being a woman. A man would get the shit kicked out of them for pulling this.
I would still have empathy towards the other person if they came to me offering buy out. Especially because she approached him before he played in any event asking.
@@dingaonhockeyshe’s a horrible human, no mercy😊
People who puke their lives onto the internet confuse me.
These two player personalities are on the opposite ends of the spectrum.
Vanessa is a bit of a crybaby.
She does have some toxic vibes about her for sure.
She's a Dyke. Of course
she's the type to avoid, she's toxic and if you get into it with her she'll make you the bad guy and say it's because she's...
a fruitcake
it's right there in her twitter bio
so u mean to tell me she feels the privelege of acting like she deserves to get whatever she wants after the fact? No, really??? I wonder where she got that brainwashed into her head?
That's so sick though he came 1st 1st 2nd
It is not side action. Those are illegal bets. Neither party is a licensed and regulated party in Nevada to take or set betting action.
What a lame ass world we would live in if like 2 people couldn't just make a bet with each other.
I still remember the first time i saw her play. For the first 45min or so I thought she was a dude
Risky😂 Doug Polk
Yes!! Didn't want to say it
Doug Polk is a dude. A very popular UA-cam personality.
@@michaelsweaney3890 I know
Because you’re blind
Vanessa when she wins... pride, bravado, boisterous... when de loses... boo hoo feel sorry for me. Pathetic
Never been a Vanessa fan ever!!!! Love watching her blow up on the felt tho :) yeah I'm a hater I know...just the truth!!
Mercier upgraded from Selbst to Polk
Jason is dumb for not accepting the $100k buyout. No guarantee he wins 3.
Vanessa is the absolute worst 🤦♂️
How does this not surprise me?
Jason was the one who was drunk, he should have took that 100k.
a good ten to one payoff, but 180 to one is far better
I think basically it was prompting him to play every possible event so he won in either case because of cashes
So what happens if you just decline to honor a prop bet
Legally? Probably nothing. But she would basically get blackballed from the poker/gambling community of degenerates that she would ever want to sell action, bet with, play high stakes cash with. No more invites from your friends to private poker games with the whales, etc
Nothing.. Except you ruin your reputation and standing in a fairly small community.
Good to see Doug didn't go busto
Vanessa made a great bet initially but they Fear which is the mind killer appeared...
Rainbow in username explains everything without any words
The poker world is still shaking!
wtf! 100k was waaay over expectation. How is this whole story not just making fun of Mercier for being so wrong about that?
Give it a break Vanessa 😅
Reminds me of Garrett Adelstein.
I've never liked Vanessa Selbst.
Hes not liked by many
Nobody is Team Vanessa.
For so many reasons, she is in the wrong here and put Mercier into a bad position on social media. Shame on her.
Do not say that about Doug Polk before he transitioned.
Honestly though she made a good bet, easily probably over 1000-1 to bink 3 braclets in one summer. Plus she offered 100k buyout, yea im taking the 100k, someone whonis already giving u a hard time about the bet probably eont pay you if u win. Take the 100k.
A true friend would have taken the offer.
Yes. But people like Vanessa don't have "true friends".
Her hedging her bet was stupid... it is hard to win 3 braclets but i get it.. if she loses shes toast .. either way shes a dirtball
The issue is that if Vanessa won, would she expect to be paid??
She was already paid the 10K beforehand
she was paid, she got the 10k that was bet.
Pretty dumb imo to turn down 100k after only winning one of 3 needed.
1:03 how’d that guy get 2 million dollars? Owning the lodge must be super profitable
do a video about Dwan's 2010 bracelet bet. him not winning a bracelet saved the poker community $10-$20million
already made this video few months ago! Do check it out
@@PokerBountyany shot you can link it? Would like to watch it but I can't find it in your vids.
Its 2024 and Dwans bracelet count is still 🍩
@@michaelsweaney3890 I want that donut!!!
“Poker community” lol you mean the high rollers. Which fyi they are 1% of the poker world.
Jason Mercier looks like Nick Mullen.
He's my best friend and gay lover
Jason should have known better and just made the bet for 2 bracelets, seeing as he had only won one before this
Leave Doug Polk alone man.
Picking up pennies in front of a steamroller.
Game of luck ,it has nothing to do with skills period !
Selbst is definitely much more in the wrong here, but Mercier should have taken the 100k.
mathmatically he should've needed better than 180-1 against to take the bet in the first place, and yes, that same math would say he should've taken the 100 when offered to take a slam dunk 90,000 profit. but probably didn't for same reason people buy a lottery ticket, or bet ever in roulette against a casino or a parlay bet against a bookie, you put in a small amount and dream of the huge score. difference between at least 99% of those in here commenting and j.mercier in 2016 (probably still now too) is that to him 10,000 isn't a lot of money. in every one of these bets mentioned your payout on the backend isn't commensurate to the odds of you winning, thus a bad bet. he clearly found it more valuable to possibly win this bet than just take the 90,000 profit. her fears of having to maybe some small % of the time owe him 2 mil lead to her offering a horrible "here just take this 100,000 (90,000 profit) so i don't have to worry for the next weeks of losing 2 mil to you".
I seriously doubt this shook the poker world. It didn’t even register with me.
As if he never took 100k to win 3 bracelets is nearly impossible bet she'd of paid 300 when he was sat on 2 bracelets
Why is everyone in the comments victim-blaming my man Doug Polk
Just when I thought Vanessa couldn’t be any more dislikable
The first rule of gambling is, do not bet with money you can not afford to lose. Selbst is the Helmuth of female poker players. Whines everytime she loses a hand.
Doug polk messed up
Maybe Selbst should stop drinking!
Why would anyone do this?
old old old old old old old old old old poker hand == NOT ... 13 days ago, lol
Wild that he didn't accept 100k buy out after winning 1 bracelet though tbh that's like 18:1 to win 2 bracelets with the rest of the series. He has to have massive confidence in his game to think he'd be a favourite to win 2 bracelets+ once every 18 years. But tbh maybe he is.
Everyone hates Vanessa. I was cheering forJason...even 7 years later!!!
And why was Stephen Hawking narrating this?
What about Anythiny Zinno stealing 10k from a backpack at the wynn December series?
Any validity to this story?
@naswiipp I personally witnessed him being surrounded and questioned by security. As well, know the Florida poker player who's backpack it was. It's interesting that no poker media has mentioned anything about it. Even though many know.
@@studentoflife7535 thank you. Why don't people speak on this? The "poker community" is a nest of vipers.
😳
@@studentoflife7535 a day later the story drops. Thank you for being informed.
Vanessa was brilliant but her ego got in the way. It's sad such a great career can be summed up so briefly.
Why bet 2 million for 10 no matter the odds?
like in pretty much every video i've ever seen of her playing poker, arrogance, here to the point of hubris.
I thought women would be able to keep their emotions in check. I'd rather Vanessa Rousso be more known in the poker scene than Vanessa S.
Only 3 . ONLY ?
Nice
Always knew Jason liked dudes.
As I stated, all your comments are about....
Just come out
That Selbst dude really sucks at gambling
Sounds like someone needs to quit drinking
W Jason
should not be allowed to have a dog at the table wtf
this was the most surprising part of this whole video too for me, it appears both j.mercier and at the time girlfriend (now wife) both had the dog with them in their laps during WSOP events.
since they r both dude they should have a boxing match
Was I the only one waiting to hear that she was in fact paid the $10,000 for winning the bet?
...weird that after all that, the youtuber didn't think to mention it.
Mercier is a good player but man what a big head arrogant guy
So did he pay her since he didnt win?
He gave her the 10k the night the bet was booked. It says so in the video.
She won the bets though right?
Yup
Lol 1k buy out
yep, biggest piece of evidence about the level of POS somebody is that on day 1 of thinking to welch they offer 1,000 on a 1.8 mil bet (so if this one is agreed to he'd just be losing 9,000 with no chance to win anything), the next day it goes up to 100,000.
the 1,000 buy out "offer" makes her seem more inebriated than the original bet does. in what world would somebody as rich at the time as j.mercier ever accept a 9,000 guaranteed loss when 1. he can afford to lose 10,000 easily (true this for sure) and 2. was in pretty decent shape to win 1.8 mil (he had won 1 already), esp if he thought the original bet was a good enough one to take (180-1 against him winning 3 bracelet's in 2016); i'd say anybody should've been getting better than 180-1 against on 3 bracelets for sure, but that might just be me. in the years after 2016 this could be argued to be slightly less true, as there are more and more bracelet's every year, more now than in 2016.
@@jasonbatteiger2421 lol she was giving back the 10k plus 1k bonus
The guy claiming he was drunk needs to honourable his bet and pay the other guy if he wins.
Vanessa is a mediocre player
Man I was rooting for him so bad lol, typical bad bettor “I was really drunk” yeah ok but I’m sure she kept his money . She sucks
She was drunk… On ego.
She could just not pay...
You sound like a terrible person.
Not paying a bet like that would be the end of her poker career. A lot of the high stakes poker world is built on IOUs and buying/swapping action. You get one chance with your reputation, and then you're done. The internet is forever. Would it be worth the 1.8 milly to have your legacy be that of a thieving, lying, scumbag? For some people, yeah. I think she would have paid if she lost, personally.
@TakeGamingYT there are some pros who did some bad scams still playing tho. Would hurt her but she wouldn't have to.
Paying millions is also probably the end of her career
@@TakePoker What? Mike Matusow and the 2 million Ted Forest weight loss bet happened. He welched. He is still around and still gets backing. You are wrong.
Brandon Barnes is another example. Guy went on a 100k+ scamming binge and was known to have an opiate addiction. he was still able to get backing.
Are you kidding, Jennifer couldn't hold Vanessa bra,I don't understand why people think a lot of these players are good, when you have money and busting out means I just run to another tournament,how's that make you good, I've watched both players and by far Vanessa I soooo much better,now can Jenifer Tilly act, outstanding actress,just watched Thema and Louise again fantastic Jennifer,and for her boyfriend he's another overrated and I mean overrated player, I play very rarely don't have money, just a poor old working man for 47 years,and I would without win a tournament if I could throw away my money
for a sec there thought you were talking about jen harman; she still like near daily plays the nose bleed cash games in vegas. mostly limit games, as per her specialty for decades by now. she also doesn't appear to age much. fairly recently her and negreanu (who if you weren't sure was an ex-boyfriend was made sure on this viewcast) were on some poker cash game show and her comments about their past were so open it seemed to actually embarass negreanu (there was a pretty clear sounding sexual act mentioned), it was funny.i forget the name of the show and it's entire lineup, but c.soto from solve for why was in it.
Cool story... But its 8 years after the fact now so you're a little late lol
Butch needs to quit drinking 😂😂😂