Everyone was there to take Nick Aliball’s money, if he’s not being the table sucker or leaves the game ends. Nick is down $8,000,000 and they expected him to increase it $12,000,000 That is all I saw.
People always looking to blame Martin at first cause he talks so much. I think Martin is just goofy and sarcastic a lot. Never seems to be out of line, except that one huge tourney he was pretending to mark cards lol. That was a little overboard, but hilarious. It made sense to tilt all the wizards at the table cause they are better.
Vertucci intercepts Andy wrong here, Andy simply states that is wild to watch a 3 handed game, especially not the original intent of that stream, but people stuck around, which is simply WILD. Vertucci, chill bro, Andy is not insinuating or projecting anything here. You should now, Andy cooler than a polar bears toe nails.
This is a high stakes live streamed gane. Players should never be allowed to leave early That just creates potential issues and integrity comes into question. Nik likely played tight instead of usual because he knew he was leaving early and he took another player with him. Totally screwed Andy over If everyone's on the same footing like knows players ate only playing a short duration. That would play into decisions If you look at it that way that in itself affects playand outcome If Andy was aware I bet he plays different. Perhaps he plays tight also Making the stream boring This is sketchy AF Nick calling out Andy makes him greasy He and Feldman owe Andy an explanation and apologies not the pther way around Stop supporting Hustler Unless they make this Right
Yeah, and I mean he's a beast. Last thing you wanna do is sit three handed in a broke game with that dude. That's why all of them racking after the whales go.
@@Jacob32905how do you call any of these guys whales? Who are you? Oh right, someone unheard of watching these guys for hours and talking shit about them. Get a life.
Andy was always a 100% correct gentleman. never complains, never rants. this is the first time i saw him really upset. uncalled for by Nick to come back at him like he did.
Yeah It's interesting the politics of the private game world, but I think high stakes pros need to be more accommodating and smart about it, robl has latched onto jrb and is able to play in the biggest games because of his relationships he's cultivated, poker is so toxic when predators want nothing but money poker I feel needs to be more social and lively and even if you are trying to win you gotta give a little to get what you want
@@julianvigil5276yea. Definitely shows a dynamic u would never think about or realize. Like u would think since it’s in a casino it’s an open game. Imo They should make it more open with more straddles.
Yea id say not a good look when all the winners are gone and the 3 big losers (of the night) were the last ones sitting there. Crazy! They shoulda told everyone Nik and Santosh had to leave early and all this coulda been avoided. Maybe they need a new person running this shit.
Well, he was threatening HCL publicly with not playing anymore if that happens again... Nick and/or Ryan kind of have to follow that up. Even though I prefer Andy way over Vertucci and extremely over airball, he is just in the wrong here. Jungle and Rampage handled it way better, even though Jungle lost more EV than Andy when they left
You are pretty damn naive if you do not understand that Nick and the HCL is a part of these private games.. HCL literally do only exist to attract wealthy wales to these private games.. What do you think they earn their money from.. Tips and youtube-revenue? LOL
@@christianschneider1499 Proper response was "These players are all adults and they can do what they want. If they want to go play another game, that's their business. We appreciate Andy's frustration, but it's not really in our control." It's not like HCL can do anything about it anyway. If you twist the arm of a high stakes player they'll just find a friendlier game.
@@lmanzo87that’s kind of unfair. Rampage has never walked from the table as far as I know. Seems like a genuinely good guy who can enjoys playing and the experience as well. I honestly think he was trying to do right by Hustler and the other players as well as the fans watching.
Vertucci should actually be sticking up for Andy here! Wtf?! Vertucci owns the stream! Everyone leaves, that looks terrible for the stream… but hes mad at Andy, and not Airball??? Andy actually stayed to finish the stream! Thats so stupid….
Almost like Airball has something on Vertucci, Feldman, and Hustler....mmmmm, I wonder what he knows that allows him a free pass...mmmmmm. Any guesses. I'll give you a hint, it started when Airball mercilessly insulted Tal and Linglin. A certain player at that table went to HCL and got Airball suspended. Airball wanted revenge and....
Biggest life lesson here in Poker. Ppl at the table who you casually converse with for weeks, laughing at your jokes, sharing dinner with you, thinking they’re your friends, aren’t. When LOTS of money is involved and you’re trying to take it from the same person, I’m sorry.
Airball is the biggest POS always laughing at players and talking shit after they get stacked. Especially the way he kept needling jungle is just uncalled for. Keep it up guy that’s why you’ll continue to run the way you do.
@@lstruggy we had a guy in Tampa who would always make up a story why he had to leave (after he won big), then he'd wander around the property for an hour and come back to minbuy
Martin (Up 330K): "I need to go for meeting in Santa Monica. In my mind, I'm somewhere else on the meeting". Andy (Down 600K): "What's the meeting?" Martin: "Yeah ... like ... I need to discuss something with a very smart guy from here." Everybody: Mmmmm .... okay?
First and foremost this fuck up is on Ryan. Since he had foreknowledge of early departures he was pretty much obligated to let everyone know such info. Seat time absolutely matters. Also, did Ryan upon be advised of early departures make any effort to locate others to keep the game going? It sounds like he had several hours to work on this.
lol how naive are you? The stream literally only exist to attract wealthy wales to the private games, off the stream.. This is what Ryan and Nick do for their living.. :D
@@andersnielsen6044 pretty much... just look how they promote super-whales like Reza, Santosh, the black guy with the cap I just don't remember. Don't wanna know the practices that Feldman and scummyNic have to let pros play whales. Its probably big $$$
Guy got pissed at Andy instead of doing the decent think and agreeing with him and apologizing. For all his talk about ethics and honesty, vertucci is actually the world’s biggest scumbag. Never apologized or taken ownership for anything. And he has done many wrongs.
@@lotharheinz5481 i dont get why ryan and nick are supported this much.. they are shady and lame .. they just have a big platform but are highly unethical.. just look at the gman robbie fiasco
Nah, the first part is right. If it is true with the private game, it shouldn't happen. But still, no one is entitled to them staying. The second part threatening HCL is not professional
@@christianschneider1499professional? WTF does he have to be professional?? I think what he did was extremely professional, this is for entertainment and what he said was just that and quite frankly needed to be said. You can’t keep letting snakes be snakes in these games. You gotta get over yourself buddy😂
I give Andy credit for speaking up whenever he feels something is wrong. He had to talk to Ryan about Wesley buying in way short for one of their high limit games before.
At these stakes and with certain players, the politics, just like Andy said, comes into play. If they agreed to play for a certain amount of time, it should be known to everybody. Probably didn't want to tell them because others might not have played. Andy no doubt wouldn't have. These high stakes invite or private games have a lot more seriousness and etiquette than a casual stakes game out on the floor. Martin just bullshitted his way out. I definitely can side with Andy here.
That’s bs man not only did they not say if Andy knew you think he would have taken the early risky calls all while Nik and santhosh for that matter playing tight when they never do
I mean I know Andy’s point was right, but letting the whale like santoh do whatever he wants to do is part of the game. You can’t keep taking away their money and don’t entertain them and ask them to stay. You wanna play poker for living? Fine. Just know how to entertain the fish, and let them keep playing.
I am starting to think HCL is losing its illustrious place in the eco, and an upstart stream with the foresight to avoid repeating its mistakes is on the horizon.
Agreed, Nick Vertucci’s ego is out of this world and he alone will sink the ship. Besides that, the game has had multiple scandals with more than 1 player being exposed as a cheat or scam artist as of today with Mars and Ryusuke revelations. The fact G-man has boycott it says a LOT about the games integrity now. In general I feel like the game has evolved into a much more toxic environment for the players, and it’s gone from being entertaining to being a shit show.
Andy should do a Nittucci and turn up and fold fold fold until he gets kings or aces and go all in straight up. Bore the shit out of the game see how tgey like that.
I agree with Andy. If you agree to go on stream, you should only leave if you have a set amount to lose stated at beginning of the game or state your stay before action starts. So happy that santos and Airball booked losses on the 24 hr stream
i think the commentators should’ve apologized on behalf of HCL to viewers for the game breaking. I, as a consistent viewer, looked forward to the game but was highly disappointed when people just left the table.
In todays stream when santhosh got there dj says he through a private party and santhosh was there confirmed the fact why nik played tight and left to private game it was bs yesterday Andy wouldn’t do that
Nick is toxic af. HCL wants to keep airball more than Andy because airball sucks compared to Andy. Easier money. If Andy is gone, I'm done with HCL. The streams have gotten less and less entertaining, action wise and player wise.
if you watched the whole thing rampage said that he was told by ryan that santosh was going to leave early. Nik was already being a nit and wasnt giving any action and being salty so he just followed santosh.
Would be a good idea to have a few backup players in the wing incase of this kind of situation. Makes sense to me, why should i be forced to play if someone is down a bunch of money LOL.
Nick has really been having some horrible takes recently. Not a fan at all of how he handled Garrett or responded to Andy. Jealous little man power trip
Please please please please please please keep inviting Martin keep him in country and let him play and tilt these f****** clowns. I want to see Airball freak out on him for doing the same stupid stuff he does to other people
I think my favorite thing was seeing my boy Rampage stick it thru for as long as physically possible to keep the stream entertaining. Sad to see he lost so much but Jungle is TOUGH heads up so props to him for even sticking around
I think he knows playing Jungle heads ups who has the edge, But i think he also knows its great content for him. But yeah Jungle is one of the best forsure.
People that say you can leave anytime are just making excuses for being scumbags and hit and running. If i'm winning I always give a good heads up and try to keep the game going, especially in a home game setting. Casino is different but it's still bad etitiquite to hit and run and you should treat others the way you want to be treated. If I lose a buy in or two I want a chance to get it back so If I win it off others I"m not just gonna take off and let the game suffer. I've been at casinos where a person hit and running has ruined the game even at a casino. If everyone did it then cash game poker would simply not exist. The same thing that happened last night would happen every single time if people made a habit of this without replacement players
People like you who shame hit and running in casino games, are the same people that nit it up for an hour after winning and block the seat from legit action, because you're too scared to be disliked and just leave.
@@Andrew-yf3lu i don't care if people hit and run me. people shouldn't care if they hit and run some no action pro. but if a fun players gets mad by a hit and run don't hit and run him.
This is absolutely wild. How does nik go on the infamous “8 million dollar downswing” if he doesn’t play any hands? Ganging up on someone trying to force them to play hands (gamble their money) is ridiculous. First of all is loads of money, that most people never touch. Secondly, who are these guys to make him gamble if he doesn’t want to? Lastly, answer my first question?
I´m not disputing that Airball gives up big asshole vibes, and Andy seems to be a nice person, but lets face it, these guys all made their money bumhunting. He would never sit in a reg only game anyway. Jungle is obv the reg who will just play until EVERYBODY leaves, and rampage is the outlier willing to play jungle. Rest of them are bumhunters.
The more I watch HCL, the more I’m realizing how big of a douche Nick Vertucci is. Whether or not you agree with Garrett. He didn’t have his back when he is almost certain he got cheated. I thought that was pretty disloyal to someone who helped build up the name of HCL, and now he’s calling another pro out for being unhappy with the game. Just seems like Nick is only looking out for himself and I hope others are losing respect for this guy as much as I am.
Can we all agree that HcL is a joke? They have 0 interest for good quality poker, they just want whales who punt. If Andy did what santosh and fastball did he would not be “welcomed” again.
what I see as a poker player is, Jungle and Andy was rude on Airball not one time, multiple times during the stream, if I was Airball I would leave the same way like he did, nobody likes this,, provocation from Andy and Jungle into Airball, Andy knows exactly whats goin on, why is Airball leaving and doin like hes dont know why is he leaving, then brother from czech Kabrhel no matter how he won his money if he wants to go , he can, go and still andy was smiling, i feel for Airball , was not cool from Andy that talk..also from Jungle , as you can see Airball was playin with you guys.. doesnt matter if he was tight or nor,, or you can be like Andy play a lot, talk, and loose money, Airball i dont know if he lose or not he is a winner for me, i will not hadle this shit talk by andy , i would stand up as well and go ..who likes to listen that shit on the table ? plus comentators was rude on kabrhel when he was leaving, not cool at all...and you can see he could leave faster but no, he sat down again to play because they was not happy that hes leaving, ignoring him sayin i have a meeting , and Rampage asking with that tone : Whats the meeting ? , with that tone and why he ask, i would say none of your byznys...nothing would happend if Andys and Jungles behavior was normal and cool. im just saying what i saw.. from Czech republic, 27years
So in Andy’s mind if you lose 600k everyone should stay and play with you until you win you’re money back, I guarantee if he was up 600k he wouldn’t have a problem 😂
Imagine Vertucci calling out a player for being unprofessional. Andy is the consummate professional and a huge draw for this now dying show.Why doesnt he call out his blow buddy Airball ???
Airball runs out of credit at one establishment he takes the fishy players and goes to another establishment, one in which Andy is probably not pre-vied to. I can’t think of a better word than grimy actually. Maybe cock sucker or jive turkeys
$600k down its probably better the game stops andys a pro but being down that kind of money means nothings going right for you that night he could have been down $1 million if the game didnt break
andy gets a salary and is flicked in these games just the same as Kitty Kuo. used to respect andy when he grinded T/20 20/40 at commerce but now its bad to be apart of private game worls to much BS politics
I wouldn't play unless there was a mandatory minimum of time established. Otherwise, it can devolve into a cut-throat situation. With that much money involved playing without an understanding about a minimum amount of time is ridiculous.
I love the absolute hypocrisy of Vertucci. Like you guys have already alienated GA. Now you publicly go after Andy but Nik gets a pass even though he has ran people off
Andy isn’t wrong by any means but man he sounded like such a baby.. sometimes people break the table. You play poker literally every day. It’s not always gonna be amazing. Get over it
stop feeling bad for Andy. Lets be real hes terrible for everygame. He sits there and nits it up and rarely does anything exciting. He bumhunts and is always so quite... then wins all the $$$$ most the time. The guy is a predator quit feeling bad for him cuz he happened to lost big one time. He sits there and gives no action 99% The time then secretly says Airball is a nit to try to rile him up? then doesnt own up to it when called on it? what a rat
Watch the follow up video on this here:
ua-cam.com/video/bKP6kPHT9DY/v-deo.html
I don’t blame Andy if he never plays on there again and Nittuce was wrong for saying that
I agree, Nick shouldn't chime in there
I stopped watching hcl long time ago tbh
Andy is the best and is absolutely right! Nick is a something of a tyrant.
its just fucin stream, he doesnt qualify to be a tyrant
@@JL-ej3xu wannabe tyrant
Everyone was there to take Nick Aliball’s money, if he’s not being the table sucker or leaves the game ends.
Nick is down $8,000,000 and they expected him to increase it $12,000,000
That is all I saw.
What's the meeting??
"Yeah...uhhh...I need to discuss something with someone..."
Wow I would of called him a liar right to his annoying face.
Well that’s the end of Andy on HCL. If he has any self respect left he won’t return after all of this
He is currently playing on the stream lol
Andy 100% right. Comes down to poker etiquette
How much did Jungle take of Rampage at the end?
People always looking to blame Martin at first cause he talks so much.
I think Martin is just goofy and sarcastic a lot.
Never seems to be out of line, except that one huge tourney he was pretending to mark cards lol. That was a little overboard, but hilarious.
It made sense to tilt all the wizards at the table cause they are better.
I wonder how tight ass Nick V would react if he was stuck 500k and this happened to him’
Andy is a class act’
It's only a matter of time before this all breaks out
Vertucci intercepts Andy wrong here, Andy simply states that is wild to watch a 3 handed game, especially not the original intent of that stream, but people stuck around, which is simply WILD. Vertucci, chill bro, Andy is not insinuating or projecting anything here. You should now, Andy cooler than a polar bears toe nails.
This is a high stakes live streamed gane. Players should never be allowed to leave early
That just creates potential issues and integrity comes into question.
Nik likely played tight instead of usual because he knew he was leaving early and he took another player with him.
Totally screwed Andy over
If everyone's on the same footing like knows players ate only playing a short duration. That would play into decisions
If you look at it that way that in itself affects playand outcome
If Andy was aware I bet he plays different. Perhaps he plays tight also
Making the stream boring
This is sketchy AF
Nick calling out Andy makes him greasy
He and Feldman owe Andy an explanation and apologies not the pther way around
Stop supporting Hustler
Unless they make this Right
Wait Airball left up? Is it the fact that he left up or that he left early?
Wow I didn’t see the Nick vertucci comment dammit I dislike nit vertucci so much!!!
Martin was caught cheating, i thought.
You just know Garrett is loving this
Bruh hilarious. I was thinking along the same lines.
Biggest scumbag Garrett
I think Andy brings a lot of value to the game of poker as a whole. Hard to not empathize with him
Yeah, and I mean he's a beast. Last thing you wanna do is sit three handed in a broke game with that dude. That's why all of them racking after the whales go.
@@Jacob32905he absolutley sucks lol
@@Jacob32905he was a beast... Lately he has just been spewing the money he made on crypto and he s one of the main whales of this show
lol and Nick chiming in as cringe af
@@Jacob32905how do you call any of these guys whales? Who are you? Oh right, someone unheard of watching these guys for hours and talking shit about them. Get a life.
Andy was always a 100% correct gentleman. never complains, never rants.
this is the first time i saw him really upset. uncalled for by Nick to come back at him like he did.
Yeah It's interesting the politics of the private game world, but I think high stakes pros need to be more accommodating and smart about it, robl has latched onto jrb and is able to play in the biggest games because of his relationships he's cultivated, poker is so toxic when predators want nothing but money poker I feel needs to be more social and lively and even if you are trying to win you gotta give a little to get what you want
@@julianvigil5276yea. Definitely shows a dynamic u would never think about or realize. Like u would think since it’s in a casino it’s an open game. Imo They should make it more open with more straddles.
Nick would’ve said the same thing had he been in Andy’s shoes.
Yea id say not a good look when all the winners are gone and the 3 big losers (of the night) were the last ones sitting there. Crazy! They shoulda told everyone Nik and Santosh had to leave early and all this coulda been avoided. Maybe they need a new person running this shit.
Nick is a douche
Props to Rampage, Jungle, and Andy for holding up their end of the obligation.
Rampage ended up losing like 300k short handed 😂
I love jungle saying to rampage "you don't have to play me if you don't want to"
Andy was pissed off and rightfully so. What Nik did was super greasy. Nick V should just let Andy vent and stay out of it.
Power a hell of a drug
Well, he was threatening HCL publicly with not playing anymore if that happens again... Nick and/or Ryan kind of have to follow that up. Even though I prefer Andy way over Vertucci and extremely over airball, he is just in the wrong here. Jungle and Rampage handled it way better, even though Jungle lost more EV than Andy when they left
You are pretty damn naive if you do not understand that Nick and the HCL is a part of these private games.. HCL literally do only exist to attract wealthy wales to these private games.. What do you think they earn their money from.. Tips and youtube-revenue? LOL
@@christianschneider1499 Proper response was "These players are all adults and they can do what they want. If they want to go play another game, that's their business. We appreciate Andy's frustration, but it's not really in our control."
It's not like HCL can do anything about it anyway. If you twist the arm of a high stakes player they'll just find a friendlier game.
@@christianschneider1499 ? Hes down 600K what are you on about? He has every right to call it out. What is wrong with you?
It feels like every day Nick Vertucci is trying to set a new speedrun record for how quickly he can say the completely wrong things
And it's left to Ryan Feldman to smooth things over .
dude has zero self awareness
The audacity of Verdouchi to tell Andy that he's the one being unprofessional....
Nick V is always acting like a jerk and baby crying most of the time on table. Come on act like a man.
Verducci is a pos. And Jungle is to blame for this
Rampage should be offered a seat at all the best HCL games indefinitely after sticking around and playing 3 handed with Jungle and Andy.
I wonder if he would have stayed if he was 300k up instead of down
he was around even before hand
@@lmanzo87that’s kind of unfair. Rampage has never walked from the table as far as I know. Seems like a genuinely good guy who can enjoys playing and the experience as well. I honestly think he was trying to do right by Hustler and the other players as well as the fans watching.
Andy is completely in the right
No he not, they can leave whenever they want, it's not up to any of them, it's not there $
I love how Nick Vertucci says that Andy shouldnt air shit out on the stream... But he does so on twitter. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
@@darrellwilliams5657 You win and leaving the table in mid game? It's not ethical. Just as same as going south.
@@YouMoyaairball wasn't even up that much hes a bum at poker who probably didn't punt a few bullets
@@MatthewMonaco17 I'm talking about Martin.
Vertucci should actually be sticking up for Andy here! Wtf?!
Vertucci owns the stream! Everyone leaves, that looks terrible for the stream… but hes mad at Andy, and not Airball??? Andy actually stayed to finish the stream!
Thats so stupid….
Good for Martin btw… if he wants to pick up after the game gets bad, good for him
Hes not mad at nick airball because he played the same "private" game🤣💯hes mad at andy because he thinks its a "bad look" thee irony 🤣i KNOW💪🏾🔥
That means nitucci and Feldman have vested interest in the private games. Probably lots of cheating
Almost like Airball has something on Vertucci, Feldman, and Hustler....mmmmm, I wonder what he knows that allows him a free pass...mmmmmm.
Any guesses.
I'll give you a hint, it started when Airball mercilessly insulted Tal and Linglin. A certain player at that table went to HCL and got Airball suspended.
Airball wanted revenge and....
Once Airball left I can understand why everyone else wanted to leave. He is the ATM at the table.
we all know its Santosh, Charles, Professor etc
Biggest life lesson here in Poker. Ppl at the table who you casually converse with for weeks, laughing at your jokes, sharing dinner with you, thinking they’re your friends, aren’t. When LOTS of money is involved and you’re trying to take it from the same person, I’m sorry.
True!
All these guys are scumbag
The guy is a seasoned pro. Im pretty sure he gets this concept.
Airball is the biggest POS always laughing at players and talking shit after they get stacked. Especially the way he kept needling jungle is just uncalled for. Keep it up guy that’s why you’ll continue to run the way you do.
Legend has it, to this day, Martin is still trying to get to that meeting....
It was is Santa Monica
He’s still in traffic
Meeting was at 6 pm, he left at 6:20. Meeting was the next day.
That dude was full of it 🛺
@@lstruggy we had a guy in Tampa who would always make up a story why he had to leave (after he won big), then he'd wander around the property for an hour and come back to minbuy
I hope Martin made it to his Meeting in time 💰
Meeting on his couch . That fool aint got no where to go
was it full on hit and run or did he play for hours?
@@Itzyourcostco*whoosh*
Me too. I could tell he badly needed to have a conversation with some clever boys. I wouldn't want to keep someone from that.
Martin (Up 330K): "I need to go for meeting in Santa Monica. In my mind, I'm somewhere else on the meeting".
Andy (Down 600K): "What's the meeting?"
Martin: "Yeah ... like ... I need to discuss something with a very smart guy from here."
Everybody: Mmmmm .... okay?
First and foremost this fuck up is on Ryan. Since he had foreknowledge of early departures he was pretty much obligated to let everyone know such info. Seat time absolutely matters. Also, did Ryan upon be advised of early departures make any effort to locate others to keep the game going? It sounds like he had several hours to work on this.
lol how naive are you? The stream literally only exist to attract wealthy wales to the private games, off the stream.. This is what Ryan and Nick do for their living.. :D
that guy is lowkey shady too..
@@andersnielsen6044 pretty much... just look how they promote super-whales like Reza, Santosh, the black guy with the cap I just don't remember. Don't wanna know the practices that Feldman and scummyNic have to let pros play whales. Its probably big $$$
@@flex2125Ryan and everyone else in LA
@@davidstud3952Krish
Vertucci would tell his customers to shut it when they are talking about ethics
Guy got pissed at Andy instead of doing the decent think and agreeing with him and apologizing. For all his talk about ethics and honesty, vertucci is actually the world’s biggest scumbag. Never apologized or taken ownership for anything. And he has done many wrongs.
@@lotharheinz5481 i dont get why ryan and nick are supported this much.. they are shady and lame .. they just have a big platform but are highly unethical.. just look at the gman robbie fiasco
Too bad Ryan had to parter up with Vertucci.
Andy had the right to say whatever he wants. He's always a class act.
Stacks is right, and Vertucci is greasy af for what he said.
nick is garbage of a human being
Nah, the first part is right. If it is true with the private game, it shouldn't happen. But still, no one is entitled to them staying.
The second part threatening HCL is not professional
@@christianschneider1499 Vertucci put the grease in greasy.
@@christianschneider1499professional? WTF does he have to be professional?? I think what he did was extremely professional, this is for entertainment and what he said was just that and quite frankly needed to be said. You can’t keep letting snakes be snakes in these games.
You gotta get over yourself buddy😂
I give Andy credit for speaking up whenever he feels something is wrong. He had to talk to Ryan about Wesley buying in way short for one of their high limit games before.
Nik Airball is the the most toxic player. Who keeps inviting him to these games? And why is this channel giving Airball spotlight?
Are you on drugs? 😅😂😅.. Nik is what makes this channel. Who would watch without him. 😅😂😅.. please seek psychiatric help
Cause it gives them views, and the channel knows if
cause he is a donk and a fish.
Because hes down a couple dozen houses and is part of the reason the game even runs in the first place.
He gets invited back because he's a massive whale and the games are built around him
At these stakes and with certain players, the politics, just like Andy said, comes into play. If they agreed to play for a certain amount of time, it should be known to everybody. Probably didn't want to tell them because others might not have played. Andy no doubt wouldn't have. These high stakes invite or private games have a lot more seriousness and etiquette than a casual stakes game out on the floor. Martin just bullshitted his way out. I definitely can side with Andy here.
Yep or maybe Andy would have played less splashy from the beginning if he knew everyone would be leaving lol
That’s bs man not only did they not say if Andy knew you think he would have taken the early risky calls all while Nik and santhosh for that matter playing tight when they never do
Likely why Nick was playing tight instead of usual. Because he knew he was leaving early so wouldn't be able to come back if he donked like usual
Andy and ball are on live right now they haven’t spoken a word to each other
its only about the whale leaving, no one is sour that a pro (Martin) is leaving.
Nick Vertucci... You look bad by telling a player not to state opinions. It's the classic duct taping fascist business owner tactic.
How about Nittucci pony up 500k in the high roller stream, go down -500k and watch everyone leave the table!
I bet he handles it worse than Andy did!
Airball is the biggest fish in the game, without him there is no HCL.
They should have alternate players who are available to come fill the void
I mean I know Andy’s point was right, but letting the whale like santoh do whatever he wants to do is part of the game. You can’t keep taking away their money and don’t entertain them and ask them to stay. You wanna play poker for living? Fine. Just know how to entertain the fish, and let them keep playing.
Martin played really well, up 330k and left when the game got bad. Amazing
Smart move. I don’t blame him. He read the room and hit the ejection button while up. Blame it on those who destroyed the game
Wait .... what? I thought he had a "meeting" to get to. 🤔
doesn't matter ONE BIT what you say at the table. You NEVER have to give the money back@@michaelg4664
Verdushie really gonna take sides he should shut up
Andy is 100% in the right. Nik is a scum bag. Scalps the whale to go hustle in a home game. Classless brother
I am starting to think HCL is losing its illustrious place in the eco, and an upstart stream with the foresight to avoid repeating its mistakes is on the horizon.
Agreed, Nick Vertucci’s ego is out of this world and he alone will sink the ship. Besides that, the game has had multiple scandals with more than 1 player being exposed as a cheat or scam artist as of today with Mars and Ryusuke revelations. The fact G-man has boycott it says a LOT about the games integrity now. In general I feel like the game has evolved into a much more toxic environment for the players, and it’s gone from being entertaining to being a shit show.
It lost it a long time ago
Andy should do a Nittucci and turn up and fold fold fold until he gets kings or aces and go all in straight up. Bore the shit out of the game see how tgey like that.
WTF is Nick saying, They let that shit happen on there show, in there game, that they host. Its wild they even let it happen
cry me a river China...this guy whinges when he loses he wouldn't say anything if he was up
I agree with Andy. If you agree to go on stream, you should only leave if you have a set amount to lose stated at beginning of the game or state your stay before action starts. So happy that santos and Airball booked losses on the 24 hr stream
Thanks for creating this, I heard about the drama but didn't want to sift through the livestream this is super helpful
😂😂 rampage “Do you think we’re not smart?” Martins excuse was such bullshit
It was brilliant 😂
smh the game was broken and that’s on Feldman
that was pretty hilarious @rampage. haha
HCL Sumbag Cheaters 👈👍
Rampage stayed because he’s one of the few legit players left.
HCL is finally on the the downhill and honestly haven’t watched since G Man got robbed
Lol got robbed..you mean got his soul shattered by a twat 😂
i think the commentators should’ve apologized on behalf of HCL to viewers for the game breaking. I, as a consistent viewer, looked forward to the game but was highly disappointed when people just left the table.
In todays stream when santhosh got there dj says he through a private party and santhosh was there confirmed the fact why nik played tight and left to private game it was bs yesterday Andy wouldn’t do that
Nick is toxic af. HCL wants to keep airball more than Andy because airball sucks compared to Andy. Easier money. If Andy is gone, I'm done with HCL. The streams have gotten less and less entertaining, action wise and player wise.
if you watched the whole thing rampage said that he was told by ryan that santosh was going to leave early. Nik was already being a nit and wasnt giving any action and being salty so he just followed santosh.
Andy almost is at the level where he should start playing tournament more often.
That Nick's response to Andy is gonna backfire to his ass soon or later
They shouldn't invite players who aren't willing to play. Getting busted should be the only excuse.
LOL, Airball and Santosh leave and all the bumhunters start working on their exit strategy. At least try to hide your bumhunting.
rampage is a real one for staying
Would be a good idea to have a few backup players in the wing incase of this kind of situation. Makes sense to me, why should i be forced to play if someone is down a bunch of money LOL.
When you play on stream, you are suppose to play until stream is over. Unless u cant re buy. In regular cash game who cares if u leave.
Andy always been a class act. Nik always been a piece of sh*t so no surprises here.
Nick has really been having some horrible takes recently. Not a fan at all of how he handled Garrett or responded to Andy. Jealous little man power trip
Please please please please please please keep inviting Martin keep him in country and let him play and tilt these f****** clowns. I want to see Airball freak out on him for doing the same stupid stuff he does to other people
I think generally poker etiquette is to play for X amount of hours which is agreed upon. Hit and run is always skummy.
Depends how wealthy each person is tbh
I think my favorite thing was seeing my boy Rampage stick it thru for as long as physically possible to keep the stream entertaining. Sad to see he lost so much but Jungle is TOUGH heads up so props to him for even sticking around
I think he knows playing Jungle heads ups who has the edge, But i think he also knows its great content for him.
But yeah Jungle is one of the best forsure.
Rampage decides it's a good decision to play Jungleman HU No limit Super high stakes. Good game selection.
Martin dude marks the deck. Cheater.
Nothing wrong with Andy being upset santosh and Nik both action
in some private games you wouldnt have gotten to the door...
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Every online table ever 😂 soon as the fish leaves
This live , martin, airball and Raymond was a big joke.
Martin was fine. He was quite entertaining for chat. Airball is just toxic
People that say you can leave anytime are just making excuses for being scumbags and hit and running. If i'm winning I always give a good heads up and try to keep the game going, especially in a home game setting. Casino is different but it's still bad etitiquite to hit and run and you should treat others the way you want to be treated. If I lose a buy in or two I want a chance to get it back so If I win it off others I"m not just gonna take off and let the game suffer. I've been at casinos where a person hit and running has ruined the game even at a casino. If everyone did it then cash game poker would simply not exist. The same thing that happened last night would happen every single time if people made a habit of this without replacement players
The difference isn't they left, they left to play at a private game, not the same thing.
People like you who shame hit and running in casino games, are the same people that nit it up for an hour after winning and block the seat from legit action, because you're too scared to be disliked and just leave.
@@Andrew-yf3lu i don't care if people hit and run me. people shouldn't care if they hit and run some no action pro.
but if a fun players gets mad by a hit and run don't hit and run him.
Wow if an entire game breaks when one person leaves, it says a lot
Vertucci is the worst.. IMO
Jungle was getting on Nik’s nerves which I think why he left. Don’t blame him, I would have too
airball probably going broke--
Martin +350k “thank you” thank you” I have a meeting with a smart guy. Bye. Thank you
Martin is so unbelievably cringy.
This is absolutely wild.
How does nik go on the infamous “8 million dollar downswing” if he doesn’t play any hands?
Ganging up on someone trying to force them to play hands (gamble their money) is ridiculous.
First of all is loads of money, that most people never touch.
Secondly, who are these guys to make him gamble if he doesn’t want to?
Lastly, answer my first question?
I´m not disputing that Airball gives up big asshole vibes, and Andy seems to be a nice person, but lets face it, these guys all made their money bumhunting.
He would never sit in a reg only game anyway.
Jungle is obv the reg who will just play until EVERYBODY leaves, and rampage is the outlier willing to play jungle.
Rest of them are bumhunters.
The more I watch HCL, the more I’m realizing how big of a douche Nick Vertucci is. Whether or not you agree with Garrett. He didn’t have his back when he is almost certain he got cheated. I thought that was pretty disloyal to someone who helped build up the name of HCL, and now he’s calling another pro out for being unhappy with the game. Just seems like Nick is only looking out for himself and I hope others are losing respect for this guy as much as I am.
Can we all agree that HcL is a joke? They have 0 interest for good quality poker, they just want whales who punt. If Andy did what santosh and fastball did he would not be “welcomed” again.
Airball got no balls. He only got big mouth. Martin was even worse. All bad guys made up excuses. The organizers must fix this.
Lol
what I see as a poker player is, Jungle and Andy was rude on Airball not one time, multiple times during the stream, if I was Airball I would leave the same way like he did, nobody likes this,, provocation from Andy and Jungle into Airball, Andy knows exactly whats goin on, why is Airball leaving and doin like hes dont know why is he leaving, then brother from czech Kabrhel no matter how he won his money if he wants to go , he can, go and still andy was smiling, i feel for Airball , was not cool from Andy that talk..also from Jungle , as you can see Airball was playin with you guys.. doesnt matter if he was tight or nor,, or you can be like Andy play a lot, talk, and loose money, Airball i dont know if he lose or not he is a winner for me, i will not hadle this shit talk by andy , i would stand up as well and go ..who likes to listen that shit on the table ? plus comentators was rude on kabrhel when he was leaving, not cool at all...and you can see he could leave faster but no, he sat down again to play because they was not happy that hes leaving, ignoring him sayin i have a meeting , and Rampage asking with that tone : Whats the meeting ? , with that tone and why he ask, i would say none of your byznys...nothing would happend if Andys and Jungles behavior was normal and cool. im just saying what i saw..
from Czech republic, 27years
So in Andy’s mind if you lose 600k everyone should stay and play with you until you win you’re money back, I guarantee if he was up 600k he wouldn’t have a problem 😂
Imagine Vertucci calling out a player for being unprofessional. Andy is the consummate professional and a huge draw for this now dying show.Why doesnt he call out his blow buddy Airball ???
I caught the end of the stream and was wondering what happened. Thanks for the video explaining everything.
Airball runs out of credit at one establishment he takes the fishy players and goes to another establishment, one in which Andy is probably not pre-vied to. I can’t think of a better word than grimy actually. Maybe cock sucker or jive turkeys
$600k down its probably better the game stops andys a pro but being down that kind of money means nothings going right for you that night he could have been down $1 million if the game didnt break
andy gets a salary and is flicked in these games just the same as Kitty Kuo. used to respect andy when he grinded T/20 20/40 at commerce but now its bad to be apart of private game worls to much BS politics
I wouldn't play unless there was a mandatory minimum of time established. Otherwise, it can devolve into a cut-throat situation. With that much money involved playing without an understanding about a minimum amount of time is ridiculous.
I love the absolute hypocrisy of Vertucci. Like you guys have already alienated GA. Now you publicly go after Andy but Nik gets a pass even though he has ran people off
Andy isn’t wrong by any means but man he sounded like such a baby.. sometimes people break the table. You play poker literally every day. It’s not always gonna be amazing. Get over it
stop feeling bad for Andy. Lets be real hes terrible for everygame. He sits there and nits it up and rarely does anything exciting. He bumhunts and is always so quite... then wins all the $$$$ most the time. The guy is a predator quit feeling bad for him cuz he happened to lost big one time. He sits there and gives no action 99% The time then secretly says Airball is a nit to try to rile him up? then doesnt own up to it when called on it? what a rat