Thank you for the sitdown, Promise. I see I triggered a lot of your viewers 😂😂😂 Anyways, parenting is an emotional topic... but most women are confused, delusional and responsible for most broken families. Kodwa ke most women never take accountability so they'll never fix themselves. My kids are happy. Their moms are happy. We're good. ✌🏽❤️
Thank you for the sitdown, Promise. I see I triggered a lot of your viewers 😂😂😂 Anyways, parenting is an emotional topic... but many women are confused, delusional, and responsible for many broken families because they are too self-centred. And sadly, a lot of women never take accountability, so they'll never fix themselves & their children will bear the brunt of their shortcomings. My kids are happy & healthy. Their moms are happy. We're good. ✌🏽❤️ [Edited update]
Lol I can’t believe how well black men project their lack of accountability on black women. This guy literally says women are responsible for many broken families when we are educated and we can see the stats of fatherless households in South Africa. Also as someone who works in the education sector, I can tell you for free children with both parents, that are consistent in their lives perform much better and go through life much easier than kids whose parents are the opposite. It’s a fact, I have seen this first hand. 😂😂😂 This man finds women from good homes and gives them broken homes. That is ruthless and devilish for me. To show that you are selfish and you don’t put your kids well being first, you said something about your kids being too young to co-exist and build relationships with their siblings, are you mad or are you dumb? How do you not know that the best relationship are fostered from an early age? And no, people are not triggered they are just calling you out on your bullshit. All you are doing is living out your own childhood trauma because your own father was a womaniser and that’s on period! The fact is you won’t get to tuck in your kids at night and read them bedtime stories is sad to me. You won’t get to learn their favourite foods, their favourite cartoons, their favourite smells, you won’t get to experience all the small beautiful things present parents get to experience. You will only be an inconsistent character in their lives. They can’t rely on you for personal emergencies or quick advice because your attention and time is all over the place. Black children deserve so much better. And for fucks sake get a fucken HOUSE for your CHILDREN!
Happiness is the most important thing in every household. We all must where our hearts are. I admire your openess & your truth, thank you for sharing your truth with us & stay blessed.
Penuel is smart but irresponsible in my view. The black family structure is already broken by the colonial system and he is continuing the same thing and making it sound profound. Our black children deserve to be raised by both parents in one household.
@@morutingakamalaita5444It's that nonchalant attitude that makes our black society crumble today. What ever happened to shaming ppl for simply doing as the wish without any repercussions. We know ukuba many black kids don't have two parents within their households and is resulting in the shit we are seeing in our black communities. I like Pen but I do condemn his recklessness in terms of having many kids with different mothers. I'm not saying he shouldn't do whatever he wants and yes it's his life, BUT he should expect ppl who have different opinions/values then his to criticize him for his actions. That's how you create a strong society by shaming ppl, not watching them do what ever they like because it's there life.
He's such a good speaker, the way he dodges giving direct answers, the "do you pay maintenance?" question had him playing gymnastics. He is part of the reason why as the black community we have broken family structures & such unhealthy family dynamics.
He likes saying on his channel how he does not believe in child support or maintenance. He also says he believes in kids starting to work early. And bragged how his son had a modeling gig at 2yrs old. Of course he would believe his kids has to work cause he doesn't want to support them. My dad would have called him "maak & duck". But what do we expect from someone who is all abt himself. Other men will ultimately raise his kids & support them. His poor kids they deserve better.
The way you're concerned abt support/maintenance, I hope you're not referring to financial support. It's a form of support that is overrated in my opinion
Promise thanks for the interview, when i have a daughter i will be showing her this video to warn her against this type of man. I will also watch with my son once he grows up to show him that this isn't how he should be treating his seed. Thanks and you look gorgeous per usual.
He said "Theres a comfort in knowing that Even if i dont have access to the child, I know that the support structure is a healthy environment", LOL what a trigger because most deadbeats disappear deliberately knowing that even in their absence, the child will be okay and taken care off. Theres nothing special about this guy...I still say Id like to hear from one of the baby mamas...ke sure its a totally different narrative.
You are pretty my daughter and I love your voice. You sound humble and look a focused young woman. I'm a retired lecturer and got widowed in 2019. One day I would love to talk to you about my blended family and step parenting. The purpose being to share experiences to young married couples who happen to be in that situation, for example, how I survived my 30 years + courtship and step mothering my husband kids, how I felt after giving birth to mine whilst looking after my husband's before giving birth to mine. We eventually got separated by death, after a beautiful friendship and companionship, having grandchildren from my step children and mine, turbulances ad excitements. My story could cover 2 or more episodes because of age. Keep up the good work my baby.
Don’t have kids until you’re married, financially and emotionally ready unless you want a stressful life in this economy. He talks like this because he is not the primary caregiver. His baby mamas are the ones going through itt! All my friends including my sister had their kids in their 30s and they’re all healthy
He thinks kids are ornaments to point to. One day they are going to see this. They deserve better& its sad that some girl will volunteer to be baby mamma no 7.
No amount of maintenance can ever compensate for a full time, fully present and fully invested parent in a child's life. I believe parenting should never be part time, you are responsible for a whole human being until they can be responsible for themselves. Nothing fancy about single parenting. I sincerely hope his kids aren't lacking in other areas.
I thank God for my father who told my brothers never to go around spreading their genes all over place and not looking after their kids. My father set the excellent example by looking after his family. I can't stand men who do that, because the children bear the brunt of this problem. I also encountered the same problem, where my ex did not look after my sons, fortunately coming from a balanced home, I raised them the way I was raised, they turned out well. I have no respect for such men. Children need both parents, it is fair on the children so I am speaking from experience.
I hate Nota ( Baloyi) with passion, but I remember him saying " I have both parents and I'm previllaged like that" ....up to this day, for me, that is the most powerful assertion his ever made.....it made me stop and think how lucky I was, I appreciate the little things in life and don't take ANYTHING for granted!
Penuel is really leaving in his own world.He gives me a person who needed counselling and because he never got it,he created his own rules.He isn’t answering questions directly.Having 6 children from different women is a mess because it involves step fathers, half brothers and half sisters 🙆♀️
Just a quick reminder, this is the same man who attempted to create his own religion. I'm glad he abandoned that self-important journey. Reflecting on it provides insight into his thought process, believing he is or was a god and expecting people to follow him. Can you imagine dating such a man? Generally, individuals with a heightened sense of self-importance often believe they are always right, displaying stubbornness and an aversion to correction, typically lacking respect for women. He often speaks in vague terms, relying on his proficiency in English. I mean, who isn't aware that God created the union between man and woman, commonly referred to as marriage? While culture has evolved, many family principles still hold true today. Refer to your Bible, folks. Marriage goes beyond mere reproduction; it is about glorifying God through the union. Recognize that marriage is ordained by God for His glory, surpassing all the other positive aspects it brings. Therefore, practicing marriage without belief in God can be challenging, leading many to divorce. Anything of God done outside of God is destined to fail. Let me pause here for now. I suggest we delve into studying our Bibles to distinguish truth from lies. ZV ❤
Lol this guy is just like my baby daddy, Big English ya mahala with no accountability. He needs to stop planting kids nje. Im very interested to hear from just 1 of his baby mamas. So much delusion here.
@@glendakanyane2547Yoh my baby daddy let me raise our kids by myself for 5 years with his fluent English, started being involved after he was diagnosed with diabetes. These ones who sound profound will dribble the life out of you😂 He's a good dad now thou
multiple kids with multiple wómen in this day of HIV and AIDS is just plain irresponsible for all adults involved. Suffer the kids who had no choice in the matter. My brother, even if you have 50 kids, having unprotected nonmonogomous sex is wrong, period. I am new to thispodcast thing but if I missed it, admit YOU were wrong. I can see you love your kids but sexual responsibílity is one key things parents should teach their children. it's not just about money and school fees. I'm still a fan❤❤
“Sow his wild oats” is an understatement when it comes to this 6x dad to 6 baby mommas😅 Now I get why he was so upset with this Mbali vs Black Coffee saga. The dude was furious, it was like personal for Penuel, now it makes sense hey🤣Before we judge people’s perspective on any matter, let’s check out the roots first. The child support/spousal support is a very sensitive matter to his type.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🎙️ *Introduction and Podcast Overview* - Podcast introduction with a focus on family dynamics. - Brief mention of the guest, Penuel, and acknowledgment of the sponsor. - Light banter between the host and guest. 03:36 🤝 *Collaborative Podcasting and Platform Size* - Discussion on collaborative podcasts and prioritizing content impact. - Emphasis on storytelling and gaining comfort in front of the camera. 06:08 🌍 *Penuel's Background and Upbringing* - Overview of Penuel's upbringing, academic achievements, and early ventures. - Highlights his diverse entrepreneurial experiences. - Touches on meeting influential people and his truthful persona. 08:56 💰 *Entrepreneurial Ventures and Learning Experiences* - Penuel discusses his various entrepreneurial ventures and the value chain. - Reflections on meeting influential people and the impact of his persona. 16:47 📉 *Business Downfall and Lessons Learned* - Candid sharing of challenges leading to business downfall in 2015-16. - Emphasis on regrouping, starting over, and resilience. 18:53 ⏰ *Biological Clock and Societal Expectations* - Addressing societal and biological timelines, focusing on the biological clock. - Advocacy for understanding one's biological clock and challenging societal norms. 20:55 🤔 *Desired Parenthood at a Young Age* - Penuel's desire for young fatherhood and challenging societal expectations. - Stress on aligning with biological readiness over societal norms. 21:06 🧠 *Views on Marriage and Nature* - Expresses views on marriage and leans towards nature over capitalism. - Discussion on societal focus on female dynamics in events. 23:12 🤝 *Commitment vs. Marriage* - Distinguishing commitment from marriage and critique of historical context. - Emphasis on commitment, service, and provision. 25:42 🌍 *Family Structure and Future Plans* - Perspective on family structure and the goal of a loving home. - Discussion on flexible living arrangements for the children. 27:21 🛣️ *Unplanned Life and Co-Parenting* - Reflection on the unplanned nature of life and importance of support. - Emphasis on co-parenting for the child's well-being. 30:05 🏛️ *Court Case and Legal Challenges* - Sharing a personal court case and challenges in legal battles. - Emphasis on family meetings and potential bias against men. 33:00 👨👧👦 *Single Dad Experience* - Discussion on the experience as a single dad and challenges. - Emphasis on active involvement beyond financial support. 38:10 💰 *Maintenance and Communication* - Complexity of maintenance and need for better communication. - Encouragement for fathers to actively participate in their children's lives. 41:11 🧠 *Perspectives on parental rights and responsibilities* - Importance of education on parental responsibilities for both genders. - Emphasis on fathers' involvement for the child's well-being. 43:00 🌐 *Promoting equal rights for both parents* - Advocacy for equal rights for both parents. - Stress on educating young individuals about parental rights. - Significance of fathers in children's lives. 48:58 🤔 *Misconceptions about surnames and legalities* - Clarification on the misconception about child surnames. - Explanation of legal aspects related to children's surnames. - Preference for both parents' surnames. 53:45 🔄 *Varying perspectives on surnames* - Exploration of practicality of dual surnames for children. - Recognition of cultural implications and suggested alternatives. 55:23 🌍 *Cultural and practical aspects of arranged marriages* - Reflection on historical context of arranged marriages. - Advocacy for understanding diverse cultural practices. 59:19 🤝 *Vetting and transparency in relationships* - Importance of vetting partners for compatibility. - Openness and transparency for a healthy family structure. 01:01:09 🧑👧🧑 *Penuel's children and their mothers* - Penuel has six children with different mothers. - Mothers don't communicate, but children love each other. - Plan to create a shared homestead for the children. 01:02:33 🌍 *Cultural background and family heritage* - Penuel identifies as a Zulu boy despite Suu heritage claims. - Importance of strong family ties and shared cultural identity. 01:04:01 🤝 *Relationship dynamics among the mothers* - Mothers don't communicate extensively, but no issues. - Penuel acts as a core link, facilitating interactions. - Future plans involve creating a homestead for the children. 01:11:00 🌐 *Adoption and communal family concept* - Discussion on adopting women into families for support. - Advocacy for a communal approach to family life. - Challenge to traditional views on marriage. 01:13:48 💬 *Open conversation about complex family dynamics* - Personal story about unconventional family structures. - Advocacy for open conversations and challenging perspectives. - Emphasis on gentle guidance and understanding. 01:18:09 🤐 *Challenges of open communication* - Reflection on challenges in expressing intentions openly. - Acknowledgment of varied communication styles. - Importance of recognizing good intentions behind actions. 01:19:48 🤐 *Importance of timing in revealing certain information* - Timing matters in disclosing sensitive information. - Examples of when to reveal information. - Emphasis on considering the impact and seeking professional guidance. 01:20:12 🤫 *Acceptance of some level of secrecy in relationships* - Acknowledgment of secrets in relationships. - Discussion on personal tolerance for secrecy. - Mention of scenarios where keeping secrets may be acceptable. 01:21:08 🤔 *Understanding the nuances of sharing certain information* - Discussion on selective disclosure of sensitive information. - Mention of situations where revealing details might not be necessary. - Consideration of emotional impact and potential consequences. 01:22:01 🧬 *Future discussion topics and acknowledgment of leadership qualities* - Teasing future topics, including DNA testing in relationships. - Recognition of leadership qualities and impact on perspectives. - Expression of appreciation and anticipation for future discussions. 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Pity we live in a world of social media personalities who preach crazy confused and confusing messages, yet because he says that with good English many who are as confused will be misled. And the truth is he is also a victim of circumstances, having learnt from his father. Now he preaches it like the gospel truth😓
His viewpoint is so complex. I cringe watching this as a 28 year old childless female. It sounds "good" in theory but the practical aspect of it so heartbreaking. Child bearing is so controversial whether public/private you give birth to a complex individual with individual sometimes your selfish needs limit your childs development some kids need the family unit to thrieve. Never have kids from a place of lack or a place of selfishnesss cause kids didn't ask to be born. You shouldn't bring children to be traumatized by your choices. Yooooooooh
I see a little boy who had a really bad role model (his father). He never had any proper moral guidance. But he's well educated so he tries to intellectualize his mistakes. He doesn't live out his beliefs but finds ideologies/narratives that can vindicate his actions. I hope you find a moral compass, I pray that you find the Lord so you can stop searching for yourself in these different women and stop spreading misinformation. On another note your delulu about some ideal family dynamics kinda remind me of Amanda's delulus on coparenting with the wives.
I've just discovered this Chanel love it. I'm already subscribed ☺️. Penuel is the kind of a guy who likes to appear as a smart, intelligent and complex in his views or perspectives. He is so controversial in all most his talks etc. As a listener you must listen to him very carefully 😉.
Are you paying maintenance? Yes or no! Wuuuuu men! 😂 lol “maintenance shouldn’t be about money” aybo izngane zizodla iHomework???😂😂 Men bore me shame… The audacity to say “I’ve withheld sending money at times” Aybo, abafana
Great interview as always Promise,I like the fact that he acknowledges his past mistakes, he doesn't know what he was doing. Well, we all wish or want to live a certain life but GOD decides.. Welldone once again and wish Penuel all great things in life..🎉🎉
One of the things I notice abt Pen is that he looks at everything through the western ideas or lense. Like wen he talks abt marriage n property ownership, believing in commitment rather than marriage. But the truth is, in Africa especially in Zulu culture the purpose of wat he calls" marriage" was never abt property ownership,and commitment is one of de fundamentals in african 'marriages.' Also this thing of using English terms to explain or define African concepts n systems is where we confuse things. My point is there might be similarities between the western systems and African systems,but the differences are the most important. So we need to be careful abt generalising as if its the samething...
Penuel is very messy especially regarding the baby mamma situation.😂😂😂 Outside of that I find him very interesting. He's thinking goes against the grain.
I love telling my kids that "Dady bought you this or paid for this and that " so that it is engraved in their mind that he there for them. I know what it does to ones life when knowing that uBaba loves me. I am slso a firm believer that kids should spend time with their fathers irrespective of the status of the parents relationship. Its important for me that i raise kids who would not think they are abundant, of course situations differs because co-parenting is never easy.
I'm way older than Promise, but I learn a lot from how she sees things relationship wise. I'm married for 17 yrs now but I'm still learning. Thank you. we need more like you.
A dusty, bandit with an English accent. I have never seen someone dodge questions like this guy. Also, he claimed he had no issue with the kids living their moms but all of a sudden he is in court fighting to keep the kids here. Please man, he is fooling no one.
@nompumelolo hehehehe the nature, biology, then proceeds to lecture about how the body of a woman works. Delusional! This is how you know you are dealing with a redpill nkunzi. Wow! Nick Canon.2.
Pen if the father didn’t marry the mom umntwana ngowakulonina,why will my kids use their father surname if he didn’t pay lobola for me???Imagine raising my kids that are using your surname??You are disappointing me
Penuel has an elevated sense of self importance. Yes, he is smart but even through that smartness, his disrespect for women still shines through. He is a classical example of the kind of men I want my daughters and nieces to stay away from.
🤣this episode is an illustration of what society will look like in the future. eish the essence of the idea of a family is be reconstructed so sad shooo
Can we have a part 2 of this talk,Pen is always expressive and controversial. I don’t agree with some of his ideologies,though I do enjoy listening to him and hearing how he views life.
Hmmm i think he doesn’t realize his thoughts and opinions are based on what life has exposed him to, which some call it childhood traumas. I doubt he would have such thoughts and opinions if he was raised in a different environment.🥲 and the sad thing is he has convinced himself that he turned out okay.
I fully agree with Penuel when it comes to co-parenting. Both parents have equal rights & equal responsibility. It's unfair to want the man to take responsibility, but dictate which rights they get. On the surname as well, I agree. Whether married or not, give the child their full identity. It's known who gave birth to them, but who fathered them??? Give each black child their true identity regardless of the circumstance they are born in.
His wording may feel some type of way but he's not wrong. Historically, when women got married, the responsibility of their care shifted to their husband. They were to obey him almost as though they were a child. He's not wrong tbh.
@@thatothobejane4674 Nonsense. When a woman got married, firstly she maintained her CLAN NAME, she never became Mrs so and so, the whole Mrs nonsense is patriarchy brought on by colonisation. Secondly, when an African woman got married, ilobola was paid in the form of cattle and land. The cattle was divided between the father, mother and daughter. In a nutshell, women acquired WEALTH at the point of marriage. The women tilled the land (the female cycle is linked to the earth, so when women handle crops the harvest is bound to be better). Men herded the cattle and hunted. In essence, the man brought meat whilst the woman brought grains, vegetables, fruits, seeds and nuts, through this women were able to control the granary and in essence the home, as well as the MARKET PLACE. A woman, a wife respected the man, her husband and submitted to him, because he provided her with wealth and security (cattle and land). Due to colonisation, all that changed. Few men can afford cattle or even land, hence why women don't respect their husbands anymore!
@marymulea4338 Penuel is an idiot who has very poor understanding of African culture. When a woman got married, firstly she maintained her CLAN NAME, she never became Mrs so and so. The whole Mrs nonsense is patriarchy brought on by colonisation.
I had African Spirituality lalela bhuti, African Spirituality must Lead, if you were following Spiritual teachings you will understand your roots and take fully responsibility as indoda yakwantu
@Godpenuel you are i still love you man, i know you from UJ through my brother when i read one of the books you wrote as uku Khanya kwe langa if i remember well. All that matters is your kids and the mother of your kids comfortable and happy
I started following him before he started podcast, he used to vent on social media about his kids and was talking about court processes and men rights, and I followed him because I could relate because I am a father that is raising a baby girl too and his experiences were an eye opener for men nje.
The second baby mom denied him access despite her knowing HIM OR his family for the LONGEST time i applaud her for not pretending to be happy LIKE OTHERS with this pen method of family building. PEN IS definitely repeating his father mistakes
The 2nd baby mama is just as guilty as a Pen. She willingly made a selfish decision, brought her kids at a disadvantage, and decided to birth children for him, knowing who he is and what he believes in. Let's not pick sides.
Promise wanted to sound smart towards Peneul little does she knows that this guy can talk for days one question is enough, Promise kept on cutting him.
Tjoo....This gorgeous, articulate man is so self centered. It is Him first before anything else. I am for traditional family values and men like him are a definate no no. I pray he does not get HIV/Aids in his quest to multiply his seed. Can someone tell him about soul ties, and spiritual realities of sex please.
Soul ties aren't real People came up with the term to try to discourage polygamy or sleeping around. if you're monogamous and only sleep with 1 person at a time, but have found yourself already having slept with 6 people, you're still gonna have a pleasant life since you were practicing monogamy. What soul ties will affect you?
People who are HIV+ can't pass-on the disease when they are undetectable. Yes, they may still be HIV+, but they can not "harm" the people around them by passing on the disease through unprotected sex or childbirth as long as they take their meds and remain undetectable. There's medical steps that are taken when when an HIV+ woman is pregnant, to ensure the child does not contract the disease.
Sometimes it’s ok to only dive in the subject you excel in. You cannot be a doctor, a politician, a psychologist, a psychiatrist, a dancer etc at the same time and that’s what I sense from this guy. He thinks he knows everything 😢 why can’t man like him ask us /professionals who deal with kids who grew up without their fathers how it feels, affect them and their thoughts on this subject. Kids need both their parents especially when they’re still alive. Also not only blaming him alone in this situation, women need to also take accountability and always have higher standards. Why would you conserve with a man who have so many kids and never been married or doesn’t stay with his kids. With all the information we have with just a click of a button and we still failing and damaging our kids mentally and emotionally. And to mothers who didn’t have fathers in their lives and choose to repeat the same cycle, shame on you because you know exactly how it feels growing up without a father while others kids did.
Penuel for me just shows that we, as people view life differently and that's ok. As long he's involved in his children's lives and plays his role as a responsible and present father then personally I don't see anything wrong with that
im closely following Penuel lately because of his clear and strong views that i have discovered...this guy stands for what he says...wether we agree or disagree with his views
penuelism,penuelist,i relate so much with penuel,in many ways,ppl who see kids as a poverty trigger have lack mentalities no matter how much money they might have ,just check how wealthy ppl and mentally wealthy people have endless children,they have their reasons and wena u busy criticizing ppl with children,uzosala wedwa ungafuni ukuzala ubengumzali(no shade to those who can't biologically conceive ,an not talking to them )and all that money u working yo ass hard for,your family that can't evn stand u will chow it with your enemies ,who are u doing it for,kids make it all worth it ,u lack,niyalekisha neengqondo zobukoli benu,siyekeni sizale and sisezozala sandisa isizwe nezizwe ,money and marriage doesn't guarantee not having stress ,health issues or you will raise good children ,so many are married but still single parenting within marriage but i guess they vibing with'i would rather cry in a Mercedes than crying while riding a bicycle ',so funny those without kids seemingly have an idea of how this thing works ,ungekalethi muntu lana ku planet earth,Thula uthi tu coz useyingane.
Promise please invite your mom to share the story with us, it is shocking but at the very same time amazing knowing how best another woman built a nation. I think there is so much to learn from such stories
We need to scrutinise this mindset this man has as men. For a public figure, he is not showing any direction to the younger men. Anyone can make a child, being a present parent is a different level. Imagine, every parents meeting/ school events his 6 kids only have the mother there? Nor does he “believe” in supporting their mothers financially?
"I met my 2nd baby mama way before my 1st, we reunited and I said to her it will be nice if we have a baby together" so all these 6 babies are planned 😢 says a lot about his baby mamas, why would you plan to have a child with somebody that has 5 kids already and they not married.... I want to see these baby mamas shame ngeke
I am girl number of 3 out of 4 children with a boy as a last born. Believe me when I say you can never give them equal attention and love. They are different and have different needs. Independent ones get less attention because they can take care of themselves.
I have a problem with baby mama 3 (unless she was the wife) then 4 then 5 then 6. Why do women put themselves and their kids in these hectic situations. Uzobona baby no 7 esekhona nje manje.
I don't agree with the term "children belong to the mother". They don't, children belong to both parents unless the dad has totally abondones his role as a father. Women tend to think they have more rights and they can play games using the kids because of the saying.
I agree with him totally..❤as for the surname I'd rather my kids have their father's surname becuase I've seen the struggle of kids who dont have their father's surname it's sometimes difficult to even be acknowledged when he passes on..
In my tsonga/shangaan family, my paternal grandfather gave my aunts to my uncles and father as adoptive fathers when he wouldn't be around anymore. As it stands, each brother is responsible for his sister Meaning lobalo negotiations and mediation of any sort as a father should. Meaning my aunt is traditionally my fathers firstborn daughter.
Penuell is a young man who knows exactly what he wants and stand for in life. Its beautiful hat he respects the mothers of his kids after breaking their hearts shame, hes such a catch. I love the fact that he takes good care of all if his kids wholistically ❤
Promise's mother didn't want that lady 2 b married by Promise's father. Very clever. Tricky coz nw is part of the family married with a ghost hubby. Apho ayekhe ama khona amanzi it's nt impossible uba aphinde ame. So u cnt b sure uba is nt doing anything with ur dad.
Penuel knows the dates of dating and the when kids were born and how long all the events took place. Better than most men in marriages that live with their kids
It is imperative to understand that every family differs from one another, and each member of a family has unique experiences, strengths, and weaknesses. Families are composed of individuals who possess a diverse range of backgrounds, talents, and perspectives. It would be unfair to expect all families to adhere to the same standards or hold identical values. While some families prioritize academic success, others focus on emotional well-being, creativity, or physical achievements. Each family's dynamics, cultural backgrounds, and personal beliefs shape their expectations and goals. Understanding and respecting these differences is crucial in fostering acceptance and avoiding judgment. In a world where judgment prevails, it is essential to nurture empathy and compassion. Rather than fixating on others' failures, we should strive to uplift and support one another. Recognizing that everyone makes mistakes allows us to learn and grow from these experiences. It’s so sad that most women here are blaming Pen for having 6 kids, kids that are loved and cared for, by both parents, his playing his part as a father sadly everyone is blaming him, and we don’t know half of his life or what happened in all those relationships. But ke a men is to blame and we never take accountability 😢😮😮
Thank you for the sitdown, Promise. I see I triggered a lot of your viewers 😂😂😂 Anyways, parenting is an emotional topic... but most women are confused, delusional and responsible for most broken families. Kodwa ke most women never take accountability so they'll never fix themselves.
My kids are happy. Their moms are happy. We're good. ✌🏽❤️
And that is what matters Pen, the rest can say whatever they want.
Thank you for the sitdown, Promise. I see I triggered a lot of your viewers 😂😂😂 Anyways, parenting is an emotional topic... but many women are confused, delusional, and responsible for many broken families because they are too self-centred.
And sadly, a lot of women never take accountability, so they'll never fix themselves & their children will bear the brunt of their shortcomings.
My kids are happy & healthy. Their moms are happy. We're good. ✌🏽❤️
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You are welcome bro❤
Lol I can’t believe how well black men project their lack of accountability on black women. This guy literally says women are responsible for many broken families when we are educated and we can see the stats of fatherless households in South Africa.
Also as someone who works in the education sector, I can tell you for free children with both parents, that are consistent in their lives perform much better and go through life much easier than kids whose parents are the opposite. It’s a fact, I have seen this first hand.
😂😂😂 This man finds women from good homes and gives them broken homes. That is ruthless and devilish for me. To show that you are selfish and you don’t put your kids well being first, you said something about your kids being too young to co-exist and build relationships with their siblings, are you mad or are you dumb? How do you not know that the best relationship are fostered from an early age?
And no, people are not triggered they are just calling you out on your bullshit. All you are doing is living out your own childhood trauma because your own father was a womaniser and that’s on period!
The fact is you won’t get to tuck in your kids at night and read them bedtime stories is sad to me. You won’t get to learn their favourite foods, their favourite cartoons, their favourite smells, you won’t get to experience all the small beautiful things present parents get to experience. You will only be an inconsistent character in their lives. They can’t rely on you for personal emergencies or quick advice because your attention and time is all over the place. Black children deserve so much better. And for fucks sake get a fucken HOUSE for your CHILDREN!
Happiness is the most important thing in every household. We all must where our hearts are. I admire your openess & your truth, thank you for sharing your truth with us & stay blessed.
“Avoid men who have a bunch of kids by a bunch of different women” - Oprah Winfrey.
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Bunch 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
True though 💯
😂😂😂😂haibo washo ngempela yin uOprah
True
Escaped someone with one baby very irresponsible too much baby mama drama
Penuel is smart but irresponsible in my view. The black family structure is already broken by the colonial system and he is continuing the same thing and making it sound profound. Our black children deserve to be raised by both parents in one household.
Very, very, very, irresponsible! And has the audacity to spread his irresponsible ideas as if they represent the truth.
Absolutely 💯
It is his life why worry about how he lives?concentrate on your life only.
@@morutingakamalaita5444It's that nonchalant attitude that makes our black society crumble today. What ever happened to shaming ppl for simply doing as the wish without any repercussions. We know ukuba many black kids don't have two parents within their households and is resulting in the shit we are seeing in our black communities. I like Pen but I do condemn his recklessness in terms of having many kids with different mothers. I'm not saying he shouldn't do whatever he wants and yes it's his life, BUT he should expect ppl who have different opinions/values then his to criticize him for his actions. That's how you create a strong society by shaming ppl, not watching them do what ever they like because it's there life.
I agree
He's such a good speaker, the way he dodges giving direct answers, the "do you pay maintenance?" question had him playing gymnastics. He is part of the reason why as the black community we have broken family structures & such unhealthy family dynamics.
He likes saying on his channel how he does not believe in child support or maintenance. He also says he believes in kids starting to work early. And bragged how his son had a modeling gig at 2yrs old. Of course he would believe his kids has to work cause he doesn't want to support them. My dad would have called him "maak & duck". But what do we expect from someone who is all abt himself. Other men will ultimately raise his kids & support them. His poor kids they deserve better.
Exactly! And he will pass this rhetoric to his sons further creating chaos.The downfall of the black community is the men who share his sentiment
So if he doesn't believe in maintaining the child, which means another man hasto pick up his slack.
The way you're concerned abt support/maintenance, I hope you're not referring to financial support. It's a form of support that is overrated in my opinion
@@victorsoul7174 Delulu
Promise thanks for the interview, when i have a daughter i will be showing her this video to warn her against this type of man. I will also watch with my son once he grows up to show him that this isn't how he should be treating his seed.
Thanks and you look gorgeous per usual.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO but yes babe that's the use for it
What kind of man is Penuel🤔
Yooo Hana strss abuty ooo 😂
He said "Theres a comfort in knowing that Even if i dont have access to the child, I know that the support structure is a healthy environment", LOL what a trigger because most deadbeats disappear deliberately knowing that even in their absence, the child will be okay and taken care off. Theres nothing special about this guy...I still say Id like to hear from one of the baby mamas...ke sure its a totally different narrative.
You used the correct term: deadbeat. That's exactly what men like this are.
True Story,nothing special here
Imagine. Makes me mad. Triggered because I raised my son. His dad has all sort of excuses for not assisting financially.
We need to hear from one of the baby mamas.
Very true, he doesn't face the sacrifices of bringing up a child. He knows the mother will take that responsibility
He's a red flag with good English
True.
A serious red flag😂
What red flag🤔
You can say that again!
Hee 😂😂😂
You are pretty my daughter and I love your voice. You sound humble and look a focused young woman. I'm a retired lecturer and got widowed in 2019. One day I would love to talk to you about my blended family and step parenting. The purpose being to share experiences to young married couples who happen to be in that situation, for example, how I survived my 30 years + courtship and step mothering my husband kids, how I felt after giving birth to mine whilst looking after my husband's before giving birth to mine. We eventually got separated by death, after a beautiful friendship and companionship, having grandchildren from my step children and mine, turbulances ad excitements. My story could cover 2 or more episodes because of age. Keep up the good work my baby.
Thank you so much mommy... whenever you are ready to share your story please contact us on whatsapp 0837799601
Don’t have kids until you’re married, financially and emotionally ready unless you want a stressful life in this economy. He talks like this because he is not the primary caregiver. His baby mamas are the ones going through itt! All my friends including my sister had their kids in their 30s and they’re all healthy
He thinks kids are ornaments to point to. One day they are going to see this. They deserve better& its sad that some girl will volunteer to be baby mamma no 7.
@@beewest5704 exactly black children deserve better than this!
@beewest5704 😂 you saying girls we never learn
No amount of maintenance can ever compensate for a full time, fully present and fully invested parent in a child's life. I believe parenting should never be part time, you are responsible for a whole human being until they can be responsible for themselves. Nothing fancy about single parenting. I sincerely hope his kids aren't lacking in other areas.
How much more 6 human beings🤔
There's nothing fancy about Single Parenting
I thank God for my father who told my brothers never to go around spreading their genes all over place and not looking after their kids. My father set the excellent example by looking after his family. I can't stand men who do that, because the children bear the brunt of this problem. I also encountered the same problem, where my ex did not look after my sons, fortunately coming from a balanced home, I raised them the way I was raised, they turned out well. I have no respect for such men. Children need both parents, it is fair on the children so I am speaking from experience.
I hate Nota ( Baloyi) with passion, but I remember him saying " I have both parents and I'm previllaged like that" ....up to this day, for me, that is the most powerful assertion his ever made.....it made me stop and think how lucky I was, I appreciate the little things in life and don't take ANYTHING for granted!
😅😅p mop 😅
Penuel is really leaving in his own world.He gives me a person who needed counselling and because he never got it,he created his own rules.He isn’t answering questions directly.Having 6 children from different women is a mess because it involves step fathers, half brothers and half sisters 🙆♀️
Very complicated
You have The Most Fascinating Guests. Hands down. The conversations are so raw and intelligent and unexpected every time!
Don't forget 'confused' in the adjectives you use😁
@@olabuk2000 😂😂😂😂
😂😂 Which parts were intelligent
Just a quick reminder, this is the same man who attempted to create his own religion. I'm glad he abandoned that self-important journey. Reflecting on it provides insight into his thought process, believing he is or was a god and expecting people to follow him. Can you imagine dating such a man? Generally, individuals with a heightened sense of self-importance often believe they are always right, displaying stubbornness and an aversion to correction, typically lacking respect for women.
He often speaks in vague terms, relying on his proficiency in English. I mean, who isn't aware that God created the union between man and woman, commonly referred to as marriage? While culture has evolved, many family principles still hold true today. Refer to your Bible, folks. Marriage goes beyond mere reproduction; it is about glorifying God through the union. Recognize that marriage is ordained by God for His glory, surpassing all the other positive aspects it brings. Therefore, practicing marriage without belief in God can be challenging, leading many to divorce. Anything of God done outside of God is destined to fail.
Let me pause here for now. I suggest we delve into studying our Bibles to distinguish truth from lies.
ZV ❤
Oh my goodness, you got me cracking in laughter. You have a way with words.
Lol this guy is just like my baby daddy, Big English ya mahala with no accountability. He needs to stop planting kids nje. Im very interested to hear from just 1 of his baby mamas. So much delusion here.
😂😂😂Aiy the more he elaborate you just realise we making babies with domkops with fluent English
@@glendakanyane2547Yoh my baby daddy let me raise our kids by myself for 5 years with his fluent English, started being involved after he was diagnosed with diabetes. These ones who sound profound will dribble the life out of you😂 He's a good dad now thou
😂😂😂😂
@@glendakanyane2547😂😂😂😂Watla wa mpolaya. I agree with you though
multiple kids with multiple wómen in this day of HIV and AIDS is just plain irresponsible for all adults involved.
Suffer the kids who had no choice in the matter.
My brother, even if you have 50 kids, having unprotected nonmonogomous sex is wrong, period.
I am new to thispodcast thing but if I missed it, admit YOU were wrong. I can see you love your kids but sexual responsibílity is one key things parents should teach their children. it's not just about money and school fees.
I'm still a fan❤❤
Even with 6 children there's a woman out there who will still get pregnant for this man🤣 Hayi sana
I’m willing 😅
@@irmahambuda6242 I believe you ke sana.
Hey le gender, sucker for pain. UPenuel is a heartbreaker , o a bonagala😂😂😂
Ngithi, 🤣🤣🤣 soze babe!! Mara bakhona benesibindi oGirl
😢I already feel sad for the kids
no child deserves the mess
Dude😭😭😭😭. Imagine!
Dude😭😭😭😭. Imagine!
“Sow his wild oats” is an understatement when it comes to this 6x dad to 6 baby mommas😅 Now I get why he was so upset with this Mbali vs Black Coffee saga. The dude was furious, it was like personal for Penuel, now it makes sense hey🤣Before we judge people’s perspective on any matter, let’s check out the roots first. The child support/spousal support is a very sensitive matter to his type.
@@Mhizzy88😂💯 exactly
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 🎙️ *Introduction and Podcast Overview*
- Podcast introduction with a focus on family dynamics.
- Brief mention of the guest, Penuel, and acknowledgment of the sponsor.
- Light banter between the host and guest.
03:36 🤝 *Collaborative Podcasting and Platform Size*
- Discussion on collaborative podcasts and prioritizing content impact.
- Emphasis on storytelling and gaining comfort in front of the camera.
06:08 🌍 *Penuel's Background and Upbringing*
- Overview of Penuel's upbringing, academic achievements, and early ventures.
- Highlights his diverse entrepreneurial experiences.
- Touches on meeting influential people and his truthful persona.
08:56 💰 *Entrepreneurial Ventures and Learning Experiences*
- Penuel discusses his various entrepreneurial ventures and the value chain.
- Reflections on meeting influential people and the impact of his persona.
16:47 📉 *Business Downfall and Lessons Learned*
- Candid sharing of challenges leading to business downfall in 2015-16.
- Emphasis on regrouping, starting over, and resilience.
18:53 ⏰ *Biological Clock and Societal Expectations*
- Addressing societal and biological timelines, focusing on the biological clock.
- Advocacy for understanding one's biological clock and challenging societal norms.
20:55 🤔 *Desired Parenthood at a Young Age*
- Penuel's desire for young fatherhood and challenging societal expectations.
- Stress on aligning with biological readiness over societal norms.
21:06 🧠 *Views on Marriage and Nature*
- Expresses views on marriage and leans towards nature over capitalism.
- Discussion on societal focus on female dynamics in events.
23:12 🤝 *Commitment vs. Marriage*
- Distinguishing commitment from marriage and critique of historical context.
- Emphasis on commitment, service, and provision.
25:42 🌍 *Family Structure and Future Plans*
- Perspective on family structure and the goal of a loving home.
- Discussion on flexible living arrangements for the children.
27:21 🛣️ *Unplanned Life and Co-Parenting*
- Reflection on the unplanned nature of life and importance of support.
- Emphasis on co-parenting for the child's well-being.
30:05 🏛️ *Court Case and Legal Challenges*
- Sharing a personal court case and challenges in legal battles.
- Emphasis on family meetings and potential bias against men.
33:00 👨👧👦 *Single Dad Experience*
- Discussion on the experience as a single dad and challenges.
- Emphasis on active involvement beyond financial support.
38:10 💰 *Maintenance and Communication*
- Complexity of maintenance and need for better communication.
- Encouragement for fathers to actively participate in their children's lives.
41:11 🧠 *Perspectives on parental rights and responsibilities*
- Importance of education on parental responsibilities for both genders.
- Emphasis on fathers' involvement for the child's well-being.
43:00 🌐 *Promoting equal rights for both parents*
- Advocacy for equal rights for both parents.
- Stress on educating young individuals about parental rights.
- Significance of fathers in children's lives.
48:58 🤔 *Misconceptions about surnames and legalities*
- Clarification on the misconception about child surnames.
- Explanation of legal aspects related to children's surnames.
- Preference for both parents' surnames.
53:45 🔄 *Varying perspectives on surnames*
- Exploration of practicality of dual surnames for children.
- Recognition of cultural implications and suggested alternatives.
55:23 🌍 *Cultural and practical aspects of arranged marriages*
- Reflection on historical context of arranged marriages.
- Advocacy for understanding diverse cultural practices.
59:19 🤝 *Vetting and transparency in relationships*
- Importance of vetting partners for compatibility.
- Openness and transparency for a healthy family structure.
01:01:09 🧑👧🧑 *Penuel's children and their mothers*
- Penuel has six children with different mothers.
- Mothers don't communicate, but children love each other.
- Plan to create a shared homestead for the children.
01:02:33 🌍 *Cultural background and family heritage*
- Penuel identifies as a Zulu boy despite Suu heritage claims.
- Importance of strong family ties and shared cultural identity.
01:04:01 🤝 *Relationship dynamics among the mothers*
- Mothers don't communicate extensively, but no issues.
- Penuel acts as a core link, facilitating interactions.
- Future plans involve creating a homestead for the children.
01:11:00 🌐 *Adoption and communal family concept*
- Discussion on adopting women into families for support.
- Advocacy for a communal approach to family life.
- Challenge to traditional views on marriage.
01:13:48 💬 *Open conversation about complex family dynamics*
- Personal story about unconventional family structures.
- Advocacy for open conversations and challenging perspectives.
- Emphasis on gentle guidance and understanding.
01:18:09 🤐 *Challenges of open communication*
- Reflection on challenges in expressing intentions openly.
- Acknowledgment of varied communication styles.
- Importance of recognizing good intentions behind actions.
01:19:48 🤐 *Importance of timing in revealing certain information*
- Timing matters in disclosing sensitive information.
- Examples of when to reveal information.
- Emphasis on considering the impact and seeking professional guidance.
01:20:12 🤫 *Acceptance of some level of secrecy in relationships*
- Acknowledgment of secrets in relationships.
- Discussion on personal tolerance for secrecy.
- Mention of scenarios where keeping secrets may be acceptable.
01:21:08 🤔 *Understanding the nuances of sharing certain information*
- Discussion on selective disclosure of sensitive information.
- Mention of situations where revealing details might not be necessary.
- Consideration of emotional impact and potential consequences.
01:22:01 🧬 *Future discussion topics and acknowledgment of leadership qualities*
- Teasing future topics, including DNA testing in relationships.
- Recognition of leadership qualities and impact on perspectives.
- Expression of appreciation and anticipation for future discussions.
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Thank you so much this is so helpful
Thank you so much
Pity we live in a world of social media personalities who preach crazy confused and confusing messages, yet because he says that with good English many who are as confused will be misled.
And the truth is he is also a victim of circumstances, having learnt from his father. Now he preaches it like the gospel truth😓
He would have turned out differently if his father was a one woman , family man. Shame, he is living out his childhood traumas.
@@supermom354 absolutely, the sad and dangerous thing now is that he makes it normal but honestly he needs counseling he does not know better.
His viewpoint is so complex. I cringe watching this as a 28 year old childless female. It sounds "good" in theory but the practical aspect of it so heartbreaking. Child bearing is so controversial whether public/private you give birth to a complex individual with individual sometimes your selfish needs limit your childs development some kids need the family unit to thrieve. Never have kids from a place of lack or a place of selfishnesss cause kids didn't ask to be born. You shouldn't bring children to be traumatized by your choices. Yooooooooh
it cut so deep, he broke my heart. He showed us what we are dealing with what we are up against in real time
He is a thinker. He makes thought provoking conversations
Can you please interview at least one child's mother. This interview could've continued , very intriguing.
I see a little boy who had a really bad role model (his father). He never had any proper moral guidance. But he's well educated so he tries to intellectualize his mistakes. He doesn't live out his beliefs but finds ideologies/narratives that can vindicate his actions.
I hope you find a moral compass, I pray that you find the Lord so you can stop searching for yourself in these different women and stop spreading misinformation.
On another note your delulu about some ideal family dynamics kinda remind me of Amanda's delulus on coparenting with the wives.
Yoh, the co parenting with wives 😂😂. May the Lord heal the family structure
@@viriacssa2003 Low key they'd make a perfect couple (perfectly toxic, but still).
@@yolanda.7033 🤣
Who’s Amanda lol 🙈
Guys hle. I love Amanda. Let's stick to Panuel 😅😂
I've just discovered this Chanel love it. I'm already subscribed ☺️.
Penuel is the kind of a guy who likes to appear as a smart, intelligent and complex in his views or perspectives. He is so controversial in all most his talks etc. As a listener you must listen to him very carefully 😉.
Yoh Bathong when Penual said, "My kids are not expensive." Are we living in the same country?
😂😂😂
Akere he doesn't take care of them full time nha 😂😂
He means he can afford them.
😂😂😂he’s toxic never
Mncmmm.....but such men expect women to come perfect with no kids....yena lapho he's got 6 baby mamas his wife one day will have to deal with...
Yes because a men must provide so there is a difference don't get it twisted
"you are living in your own world" so fitting for your guest to get that comment!
Are you paying maintenance? Yes or no! Wuuuuu men! 😂 lol “maintenance shouldn’t be about money” aybo izngane zizodla iHomework???😂😂 Men bore me shame…
The audacity to say “I’ve withheld sending money at times” Aybo, abafana
Lol he used his english to dodge so many questions
@@AmyMapena😂so true
What do you expect from a guy who calls himself a "god" and has started his own religion? Uyang'dina mina. It's giving narc vibes.
🤣🤣🤣
I’m disgusted Mcm
Great interview as always Promise,I like the fact that he acknowledges his past mistakes, he doesn't know what he was doing. Well, we all wish or want to live a certain life but GOD decides.. Welldone once again and wish Penuel all great things in life..🎉🎉
One of the things I notice abt Pen is that he looks at everything through the western ideas or lense. Like wen he talks abt marriage n property ownership, believing in commitment rather than marriage. But the truth is, in Africa especially in Zulu culture the purpose of wat he calls" marriage" was never abt property ownership,and commitment is one of de fundamentals in african 'marriages.' Also this thing of using English terms to explain or define African concepts n systems is where we confuse things.
My point is there might be similarities between the western systems and African systems,but the differences are the most important. So we need to be careful abt generalising as if its the samething...
Black women pick and choose which parts of "African systems" they wanna still uphold and which parts of western culture suit, so why shouldn't Panuel?
Penuel is very messy especially regarding the baby mamma situation.😂😂😂
Outside of that I find him very interesting. He's thinking goes against the grain.
He is a walking red flag 🚩
I love telling my kids that "Dady bought you this or paid for this and that " so that it is engraved in their mind that he there for them. I know what it does to ones life when knowing that uBaba loves me.
I am slso a firm believer that kids should spend time with their fathers irrespective of the status of the parents relationship.
Its important for me that i raise kids who would not think they are abundant, of course situations differs because co-parenting is never easy.
Nazo 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Many women can learn a lot from you 🙏
I'm way older than Promise, but I learn a lot from how she sees things relationship wise. I'm married for 17 yrs now but I'm still learning. Thank you. we need more like you.
The level of delulu is insane, I feel sorry for the kids. I really don't know why he was brought to the interview 😴🚮
He's glorifying seed spreading and not even taking care of those kids but aker he believes in nature and birds, cats, dogs etc make kids and leave
@@nompumeloloand he believes in Afriforum with all his being.
A dusty, bandit with an English accent. I have never seen someone dodge questions like this guy. Also, he claimed he had no issue with the kids living their moms but all of a sudden he is in court fighting to keep the kids here. Please man, he is fooling no one.
@nompumelolo hehehehe the nature, biology, then proceeds to lecture about how the body of a woman works. Delusional! This is how you know you are dealing with a redpill nkunzi. Wow! Nick Canon.2.
Pen if the father didn’t marry the mom umntwana ngowakulonina,why will my kids use their father surname if he didn’t pay lobola for me???Imagine raising my kids that are using your surname??You are disappointing me
Black pen you really are very practical and real in your conversations. I just love this one, its just soooooo practical.
Penuel has an elevated sense of self importance. Yes, he is smart but even through that smartness, his disrespect for women still shines through. He is a classical example of the kind of men I want my daughters and nieces to stay away from.
Spirit of Confusion all over this Episode.. Yho.
🤣this episode is an illustration of what society will look like in the future. eish the essence of the idea of a family is be reconstructed so sad shooo
Aykhona this guy 🙄🚩 I couldn’t even finish the episode. I can’t deal with such. Cabanga if we all thought like this, mess yodwa.
I know men like him & on his deathbed he will call his kids to come visit him.
Can we have a part 2 of this talk,Pen is always expressive and controversial. I don’t agree with some of his ideologies,though I do enjoy listening to him and hearing how he views life.
I dont think he deserves the title "daddy"
"I lived in the suburb since I was five" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂
Uyahluba sterek 😅
Why am I already laughing without even listening?
I just watched this for 40 minutes 😒 aw kodwa ngo 40 minutes wami………time wasted 😏
I’m just under 2 minutes in. Thanks for the warning. Aaaand I’m out.
3 min in , I am out too 😂
@@nwakhubayi18 minutes nje setse a mborile.It's cringe
Fast forwarded to 24 minutes and I am out🤣
I just got reminded about things we should feed our minds with , it wasn’t necessary to view this from the beginning 😅
Hmmm i think he doesn’t realize his thoughts and opinions are based on what life has exposed him to, which some call it childhood traumas.
I doubt he would have such thoughts and opinions if he was raised in a different environment.🥲 and the sad thing is he has convinced himself that he turned out okay.
Shem uyabheda bhuti lo 😭😭😭
So he didnt learn ha fihla ho baby number 4 dt he is doing something wrong! 6 Different mothers is too much
Ha re Mo judge but Bathong,why a sa bona ka 3 bonyane?
😂waze waychaza into engekhoke kodwa
Everyone needs a mentor to avoid repeating other people’s mistakes
He is very sensitive wen it comes to surnames, yet he ddnt marry these women weeeh.
he doesn't have to marry them the women for HIS kids to have this surname
I know baby mama number 3,she was a good friend of mine ,met pen aswell back in the days ,so theres a soft spot there lol .great interview ❤❤❤
From being relatively close to this, what were/ are your thoughts?
I fully agree with Penuel when it comes to co-parenting. Both parents have equal rights & equal responsibility. It's unfair to want the man to take responsibility, but dictate which rights they get. On the surname as well, I agree. Whether married or not, give the child their full identity. It's known who gave birth to them, but who fathered them??? Give each black child their true identity regardless of the circumstance they are born in.
One simple question takes him 20 minutes to answer😫🥱yooh.
That's indication that he knows his ways are sideways and he has to justify his answer.
Cause he wants to justify his rubbish behavior 🥱
Lomfana uzosikhulumisa kakhulu islima that wants to be right or seen as a good person and uyabheda
At 1h13 he says " marriage was an adoption you become my first child you take my surname you represent me" THAT IS COMPLETE MADNESS😂
His wording may feel some type of way but he's not wrong. Historically, when women got married, the responsibility of their care shifted to their husband. They were to obey him almost as though they were a child. He's not wrong tbh.
@@thatothobejane4674 Nonsense. When a woman got married, firstly she maintained her CLAN NAME, she never became Mrs so and so, the whole Mrs nonsense is patriarchy brought on by colonisation. Secondly, when an African woman got married, ilobola was paid in the form of cattle and land. The cattle was divided between the father, mother and daughter. In a nutshell, women acquired WEALTH at the point of marriage. The women tilled the land (the female cycle is linked to the earth, so when women handle crops the harvest is bound to be better). Men herded the cattle and hunted. In essence, the man brought meat whilst the woman brought grains, vegetables, fruits, seeds and nuts, through this women were able to control the granary and in essence the home, as well as the MARKET PLACE.
A woman, a wife respected the man, her husband and submitted to him, because he provided her with wealth and security (cattle and land). Due to colonisation, all that changed. Few men can afford cattle or even land, hence why women don't respect their husbands anymore!
@marymulea4338 Penuel is an idiot who has very poor understanding of African culture. When a woman got married, firstly she maintained her CLAN NAME, she never became Mrs so and so. The whole Mrs nonsense is patriarchy brought on by colonisation.
He’s actually spot on.
Lol OK not in Venda or Pedi please... Maybe in Zulu
I had African Spirituality lalela bhuti, African Spirituality must Lead, if you were following Spiritual teachings you will understand your roots and take fully responsibility as indoda yakwantu
Mrs law you look so good😊 you came with bang episodes when you started please dont loose the mark😢
@Godpenuel you are i still love you man, i know you from UJ through my brother when i read one of the books you wrote as uku Khanya kwe langa if i remember well. All that matters is your kids and the mother of your kids comfortable and happy
I started following him before he started podcast, he used to vent on social media about his kids and was talking about court processes and men rights, and I followed him because I could relate because I am a father that is raising a baby girl too and his experiences were an eye opener for men nje.
The second baby mom denied him access despite her knowing HIM OR his family for the LONGEST time i applaud her for not pretending to be happy LIKE OTHERS with this pen method of family building. PEN IS definitely repeating his father mistakes
thats the conversation we need to have . He has to start being honest about irresponsible behaviour.
LOL
How can you not grant access to parent to their child and get applauded?.. Imagine
The 2nd baby mama is just as guilty as a Pen. She willingly made a selfish decision, brought her kids at a disadvantage, and decided to birth children for him, knowing who he is and what he believes in. Let's not pick sides.
Promise wanted to sound smart towards Peneul little does she knows that this guy can talk for days one question is enough, Promise kept on cutting him.
Tjoo....This gorgeous, articulate man is so self centered. It is Him first before anything else. I am for traditional family values and men like him are a definate no no. I pray he does not get HIV/Aids in his quest to multiply his seed. Can someone tell him about soul ties, and spiritual realities of sex please.
Soul ties aren't real
People came up with the term to try to discourage polygamy or sleeping around.
if you're monogamous and only sleep with 1 person at a time, but have found yourself already having slept with 6 people, you're still gonna have a pleasant life since you were practicing monogamy. What soul ties will affect you?
People who are HIV+ can't pass-on the disease when they are undetectable. Yes, they may still be HIV+, but they can not "harm" the people around them by passing on the disease through unprotected sex or childbirth as long as they take their meds and remain undetectable.
There's medical steps that are taken when when an HIV+ woman is pregnant, to ensure the child does not contract the disease.
As for Janet Jackson I agree , you so look like her Promise😘😘😘😘.
Sometimes it’s ok to only dive in the subject you excel in. You cannot be a doctor, a politician, a psychologist, a psychiatrist, a dancer etc at the same time and that’s what I sense from this guy. He thinks he knows everything 😢 why can’t man like him ask us /professionals who deal with kids who grew up without their fathers how it feels, affect them and their thoughts on this subject. Kids need both their parents especially when they’re still alive. Also not only blaming him alone in this situation, women need to also take accountability and always have higher standards. Why would you conserve with a man who have so many kids and never been married or doesn’t stay with his kids. With all the information we have with just a click of a button and we still failing and damaging our kids mentally and emotionally. And to mothers who didn’t have fathers in their lives and choose to repeat the same cycle, shame on you because you know exactly how it feels growing up without a father while others kids did.
Penuel for me just shows that we, as people view life differently and that's ok. As long he's involved in his children's lives and plays his role as a responsible and present father then personally I don't see anything wrong with that
This guy!! 😢 ay bandla
The last part of the conversation is awkwardly interesting, please make a video about it, thanks so much about the real talk
However! The marriage process of spending so much money to impress people is RUBBISH I agree on that one.
im closely following Penuel lately because of his clear and strong views that i have discovered...this guy stands for what he says...wether we agree or disagree with his views
Hai nna motho yo wa ntlhakatlhakanya yo..😢
penuelism,penuelist,i relate so much with penuel,in many ways,ppl who see kids as a poverty trigger have lack mentalities no matter how much money they might have ,just check how wealthy ppl and mentally wealthy people have endless children,they have their reasons and wena u busy criticizing ppl with children,uzosala wedwa ungafuni ukuzala ubengumzali(no shade to those who can't biologically conceive ,an not talking to them )and all that money u working yo ass hard for,your family that can't evn stand u will chow it with your enemies ,who are u doing it for,kids make it all worth it ,u lack,niyalekisha neengqondo zobukoli benu,siyekeni sizale and sisezozala sandisa isizwe nezizwe ,money and marriage doesn't guarantee not having stress ,health issues or you will raise good children ,so many are married but still single parenting within marriage but i guess they vibing with'i would rather cry in a Mercedes than crying while riding a bicycle ',so funny those without kids seemingly have an idea of how this thing works ,ungekalethi muntu lana ku planet earth,Thula uthi tu coz useyingane.
I dont know why I trust u! When saying "I want my kids to have a happy family"
This is an interesting conversation
Very interesting engagement. We are not ready for most of it as a society.
Your intelligence Brother Pen, big up Brooo❤
Mxm. What a joke.
Promise please invite your mom to share the story with us, it is shocking but at the very same time amazing knowing how best another woman built a nation. I think there is so much to learn from such stories
We need to scrutinise this mindset this man has as men. For a public figure, he is not showing any direction to the younger men.
Anyone can make a child, being a present parent is a different level.
Imagine, every parents meeting/ school events his 6 kids only have the mother there? Nor does he “believe” in supporting their mothers financially?
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 this is a brilliant man!!!!
A bit cringe 😬 …. My respect bar for this man just dropped to zero.😖
Can he just answer the questions without going through the corners 😪🥴😱🙄😒
"I met my 2nd baby mama way before my 1st, we reunited and I said to her it will be nice if we have a baby together" so all these 6 babies are planned 😢 says a lot about his baby mamas, why would you plan to have a child with somebody that has 5 kids already and they not married.... I want to see these baby mamas shame ngeke
You cant claim that you can give all those kids equal opportunities and attention
I am girl number of 3 out of 4 children with a boy as a last born. Believe me when I say you can never give them equal attention and love. They are different and have different needs. Independent ones get less attention because they can take care of themselves.
I have a problem with baby mama 3 (unless she was the wife) then 4 then 5 then 6. Why do women put themselves and their kids in these hectic situations. Uzobona baby no 7 esekhona nje manje.
Mr P explanation about marriage is how I’ve always seen it
I don't agree with the term "children belong to the mother". They don't, children belong to both parents unless the dad has totally abondones his role as a father. Women tend to think they have more rights and they can play games using the kids because of the saying.
I agree with him totally..❤as for the surname I'd rather my kids have their father's surname becuase I've seen the struggle of kids who dont have their father's surname it's sometimes difficult to even be acknowledged when he passes on..
Man must gather here ND learn from this guy ❤
In my tsonga/shangaan family, my paternal grandfather gave my aunts to my uncles and father as adoptive fathers when he wouldn't be around anymore. As it stands, each brother is responsible for his sister Meaning lobalo negotiations and mediation of any sort as a father should.
Meaning my aunt is traditionally my fathers firstborn daughter.
Penuell is a young man who knows exactly what he wants and stand for in life. Its beautiful hat he respects the mothers of his kids after breaking their hearts shame, hes such a catch. I love the fact that he takes good care of all if his kids wholistically ❤
He is a present father to all his 6 children's.
Good catch😳😳😳
@@WNdabalol I'm shocked too😂
😂😂😂😂eh this one😢🤡
Hhay😂"a catch" Wow
You withheld the maintenance? You're abusive and shameless.
He is living in his own world indeed.
I did not know he was an irresponsible breeder.
So were the women... having unprotected sex and contraception is not a new concept and the women should step up.
I love him always talk sense.
Promise's mother didn't want that lady 2 b married by Promise's father. Very clever. Tricky coz nw is part of the family married with a ghost hubby.
Apho ayekhe ama khona amanzi it's nt impossible uba aphinde ame. So u cnt b sure uba is nt doing anything with ur dad.
Penuel knows the dates of dating and the when kids were born and how long all the events took place. Better than most men in marriages that live with their kids
It is imperative to understand that every family differs from one another, and each member of a family has unique experiences, strengths, and weaknesses.
Families are composed of individuals who possess a diverse range of backgrounds, talents, and perspectives. It would be unfair to expect all families to adhere to the same standards or hold identical values. While some families prioritize academic success, others focus on emotional well-being, creativity, or physical achievements. Each family's dynamics, cultural backgrounds, and personal beliefs shape their expectations and goals. Understanding and respecting these differences is crucial in fostering acceptance and avoiding judgment. In a world where judgment prevails, it is essential to nurture empathy and compassion. Rather than fixating on others' failures, we should strive to uplift and support one another. Recognizing that everyone makes mistakes allows us to learn and grow from these experiences.
It’s so sad that most women here are blaming Pen for having 6 kids, kids that are loved and cared for, by both parents, his playing his part as a father sadly everyone is blaming him, and we don’t know half of his life or what happened in all those relationships. But ke a men is to blame and we never take accountability 😢😮😮
You qualify to be my wife
Insightful ❤
This lady is a Janet Jackson lookalike.
I'm not even watching this interview, just going through the comments 😂.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, same here gal.