I do like the idea of Elizabeth being the latest canon death in the pre-FNAF 1 timeline, because it firmly places Sister Location and Afton's springlocking after FNAF 1, and makes SL make a lot more sense. The only issue I'd have is that if the Circus Baby Pizza World cross branding came after the 1987 location shuttered, you'd kinda need Henry to have taken the fall for the MCI, leaving William to get the additional investors he speaks to in the opening scene of Sister Location.
Well what if he (Henry) had ? I mean, how come you never hear of him or face any consequences of his decisions as the head of fazbear ? Plus, the newspaper easter egg from FNAF1 gives us the information that a suspect wasn't convicted but charged with the MCI which obviously means that he had faced trial and was sentenced to prison. And he wouldn't have been sentenced to life as the bodies of the kids weren't discovered and thus wouldn't have led to the conviction of murder but of kidnapping (officialy, since we're pretty much sure of the fact that fazbear has hidden away the bodies from the animatronics). So my beliefs are that Henry actually went to prison for a long time, and somehow was releassed around the events of FNAF6 : Pizzeria simulator where finally we heard back of him. This would suit from a lore point of vue but i actually think that it fits from a game design perspective. It is very unlikely and far fetched that Henry was in the head of scott until much later games and books releases. So it would fit that he finds a lore reason of why henry was so much absent from the games. Additionally, i'd like to say that i strongly believe in @UnwitheredTruth 's theory that fnaf one is actually located in 1989 in the timeline, he did an awesome theory on that, the one actually mentioned into this video. So it would make sense that Elizabeth was the latest cannon death as mentioned. The only points around this, as much as i believe that we're coming pretty close to sorting things out in this crazy timeline, that bothers me is actually free-roaming springtrap around the restaurant. If he could exit the saferoom through the ventilation, how come he didn't escape from there. The man behind the slaughter, William Afton, being undead and pretty much immortal trapped through hellish suffering BUT inside of a sort of killing machine makes very little sense to me of why he didn't go out seeking for his next victims. Don't get me wrong, i do think that william died before the re-openning of the FNAF1 location and was sealed inside when the building was mend. But i don't think he was able to escape. Do i very much like the idea of a springtrap free to roam around in the restaurant, yes obviously. But at the same time i do find it quite unlikely. My opinion on this particular death is that it is a major misleading point put in there by Scott. I'd very much like to know what you guys actually think about this, and i would be blessed to know what @TerminalError thaught about it and actually respond ! I very much liked you theory and find your work awesome so please keep it up !
I've been thinking about that too. I don't see a huge problem with Henry taking the blame since he is out of the picture for a few decades, and the only reason he'd be let out is due to more evidence showing up later from either more killings or something showing up in one of the locations proving Henry is innocent. Either that or one of the fnaf 2 night guards took the blame, or William was arrested but like help wanted 1 says "nothing was ever proven in the court of law" leading to him being released.
@PaperBagProduction He says it in a joking way... But he opens with "Ladies and gentlemen, and those with the good sense to do away with the whole notion." After seeing so many PR things from Disney and stuff lately, that just rubs me the wrong way, ya know?
I love the idea of Dave being William undercover again, but Scott loves reusing names (Just how many Jeremys are there?!) and Ralph is the one who makes the tape about the safe rooms being boarded up. That means Follow Me has to take place before The Week Before so William can be sealed away for Fnaf 3 and Ralph can record the tape before getting stuffed.
I'm so torn on William being in the vents. On one hand, it explains the bones from a different part of the book, explains why Chica leaves (sort off, honestly She would probably want to kick his ass but, I can totally also see her being afraid), it would explain why Mr. Cupcake is bitten as the weird for anyone except him (maybe Golden Freddy because he knows for biting, but again, why Mr. Cupcake. Also, he wouldn't be crawling, probably. ) and it would describe the description. But at the same time, why and how? I mean, sure, I guess the Saferoom probably needs a vent. And if it's a sealed vent, he could probably get it open over time. However, I'm less concerned about how and more the why? Why is he still in the vents? Did he get lost for 30 years? He found the exit in this ending, and so did he escape? Maybe you can make the argument that he can't escape because he wouldn't do it during the day because people. And or his suit is so damaged that he can only move at night due to the programming. And maybe he can't do it at night because he can't get the door open. I mean, he stays in FNAF 3 for 5 nights when there is a clear as day exit door. He only leaves after the fire, so maybe he's so weak that he can't get doors open. But to that, I say break a window as I'm pretty sure this book suggests it has windows. Maybe I'm thinking about it too hard, but if getting in the vents was an option, I don't see Springtrap staying put for 30 years.
I’m fairly certain it’s something weirder in the vents. Eating a fellow animatronic lines up with zero other behaviours I can think of. Eating in general seems to be reserved for Chica alone. But the other animatronic in the room IS Chica. So who else has a big white smile and white eyes? I would say Shadow Bonnie, who would be JUST white eyes and giant smile if seen in the dark. SB is apparently haunting both the FNAF 1 and 2 pizzerias (not in the 1st game but described elsewhere, I’m sorry, info is all over the place and I lose track sometimes haha). Shadow Bonnie is formed from Agony. Into the Pit shows us that Agony can take an animalistic form. One that freaks out even the other animatronics, maybe? The Into The Pit rabbit is bitey as hell. Generally SB doesn’t do much to us in the games, but he isn’t NON-aggressive as he can crash the game. Shadow Freddy is another candidate. He also seems to be a shade of some sort made of Agony. I think Ultimate Custom Night describes him as “Afton’s evil made flesh” or something. All I can think of is that Into The Pit shows us that the Agony entities can be unpredictable and violent. Sure, they aide the spirits indirectly (and directly) at times. But they’re scary and strange and lashing out at anyone that gets close is not out of the question.
Ralph does say earlier in the book that they got rid of the old designs of the animatronics and replaced them with the original designs. Follow me could be William getting rid of the withereds
Not necesserely. It is entirley possible the Witherds where restores, already placed in the old now run down Pizzeria fore storage, William took them apart, and then they where rebuild and he was sealed up. In fact that makes the most sense cause one, Phone Guy is still alive when he tells them to seal the safe rooms and two why would they bother sealing those up when by all acounts the FNAF 1 location was Freddys first death bead?
@@neptuneplaneptune3367 why would they visually be shown as the normal animatronics in minigame then? Especially considering the fact that they had been shown as the withereds an literally every other minigame they are depicted in.
It’s both, he’s capable of going under cover *&..* secretly go to wear his spring lock Bonny suit while nobody is watching.. Plus if he’s in his undead Springtrap form the rest of the Animatronics would already be destroyed by now along with the fact that he can’t even leave his back room tomb he’d be locked up in after he dies.
True, but the book does say that it restored the animatronics to their original designs, meaning the withereds could have been destroyed and replaced with the OGs, giving us the follow me mini game
@ but if Springtrap could use the vents to reach the main restaurant halls & make his escape then why didn’t he? He’s a cybernetic necromancy mad scientist at this point who has lots of remnant experiments to conduct & the events of sister location can’t be set in motion for Michael to get scooped if William *ISN’T* trapped in the boarded up back room & presumed dead.. In order for the whole first game to be remotely possible the events of the “Follow Me” Minigame would have to take place after the events of FNAF 1 since the original Animatronics was not only dismantled but also melted down for the Funtime Animatronics to get their remnant injections otherwise the rebuilt Animatronics in FNAF 1 cannot possibly be haunted since they were rebuilt with *NEW NON HAUNTED ANIMATRONIC EXOSKELETONS* & at this point in timeline it’s just not possible for him to get another set of 5 or possibly 6 kids killed, stuff their corpses into the Animatronics ..& get away with those murders yet again when Henry Emily is surely onto him by now & knows his killing calling card.. 😕
Something also interesting to note, if coppelia went to Freddy's after her birthday in late November/sometime December and fnaf 1 happens in 92, that means she went to Freddy's the year of the MCI
Hey more of a casual fan of yours but neat video as always. Though I uhh heavily disagree with the Elizabeth conclusion. Ralph implies there have been multiple bring your kid to workdays and even though it was only a Holiday in 1993 it still happened before 1193 so that doesn't check out. Also William is no longer associated with Fazbear ent by 1987 as they can't contact the og restaurant owner. As for Omc, a problem I have with this is that Omc in the fandom is isually always treated as a good entity; he very clearly isn't. He doesn't just call William a demon but also the children and wants you to leave Ucn as it is. Letting everyone suffer. The point if ucn is that Ucn is a bad thing. It keeps everyone trapped and disallows everyone to move on. His entire purpose is to be wrong, William does need to be set free. So having Ralph be Omc feels wrong. As for Dave? Well if it is William it's further proof Game William is nothing like Dave or Steve. Twb Dave actually cares about your life, even if he is kinda a jerk. But imo it's not William, nothing implies it's William. Ppl need to stop using the novels. Moving on I wanted to share something interesting about TwB that connects to ITPG. Randomly in TWB you find an old ID badge and can't tell who it belongs to. And later you find A golden ring, implied to be wedding ring, inside a cupcake and we've no clue who it belongs to. You could say it's Browen Light's (I believe she's Chica bully and that Cassidy is tricking you by pretending to be her which is a great theory on reddit.) But she's never linked to it. But what if these to item's were William's? Now that may sound strange but it's actualy hecause in ITPG the Dad items are the following; His wallet, his ring, his nametag, and two photos. In ITP after getting these you find the William and Henry photo and Pit Bonnie collects this when you drop it for some reason, (and also freaks out), why? Because he's why your Dad's items were scattered in the first place; he's looking for his pieces. And I think two of those items are in TWB, the nametag and the ring. Symbolizing how William never recovered his missing pieces. I always disagreed with Shatter-Victim but maybe Shatter-Liam was correct this whole time? It could even explain why William's death is so out of place, even if he did die he can continue to exist otherwise. It'd also explain why only Scraptrap can talk. Anyways that's just my conspiracy theoryz I don't even believe it myself. But it's an interesting idea. Anyways, good video can't wait till the next one!
16:00 couldn't it be Fetch or maybe even Plushtrap? Also if William could get out of the saferoom what would the point be of trapping him in there? Logically thinking there wouldn't be a vent in the saferoom or else William would have just escaped before they found him in FNaF 3.
It definitely could be fetch or plushtrap. It would feel weird to me though bringing one of them into this story just because they weren't really part of the fnaf 1 building while springtrap is shown to be springlocked there. I also just assumed springtrap couldn't get out due to the vent covers. Ralph needs a screwdriver to open them and i don't think any animatronic uses them until he does implying they couldn't.
but if Springtrap has access to the vents and therefore Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza in its entirety, why would he not just leave? He’s not really trapped in the safe room? There’s also evidence in Follow me that there is no Vent that goes into the safe room from what we’ve seen, but that could also just be the minigame simplifying the room. I think it’s time to put away William being spring trapped before the events of FNAF 1, with TWB being the final nail in the coffin
My assumption was that he couldn't get out. Ralph needs a screwdriver to open the vents and the one in the office is even more concealed by being hidden behind the lockers. Even if springtrap got into the vents from the saferoom, the vent covers in the Pizzeria stop him from getting out until Ralph opens them in the week before.
Elizabeth is stated to die in 1985, in the novel trilogy. The Novel Trilogy is quite correct with dates and years/ages, although locations are different. After the MCI, William got charged and convicted, although shortly let go after due to "not enough evidence". After this, he fled under the new alias Dave Miller. Personally, I believe the death order goes as following: David, Charlotte, Elizabeth, Susie's dog (ran over by William), Susie, Jeremy, Gabriel, Fritz, Cassidy, and then Andrew btw nice theory with Ralph being Old Man Consequences. Hopefully we will find that old mans identity
Something not related to this video but I'm suprised no one mentioned: in the night 6 ending, the way Golden Freddy kills Ralph is the exact oppisate of how he kills in the games. In FNAF 1/2/UCN, you're supposed to look away from Golden Freddy as fast as possible, otherwise he kills you. But in the week before, Ralph has a full on staring contest with him which only ends when he looks away.
Regarding the secret room, on pages 127 and 128, Ralph ventures into a section of the vents where there shouldn't be anything, "at least no room or area you can access normally." Ralph gets spooked by a dead body in the vents (who is that?) and doesn't enter, but this is clearly the safe room.
I'll have to double check that after work but I thought that was Ralph getting delirious from being in the vents and thinking he was traveling outside the Pizzeria. I might have read it wrong the first time so I'll go back and check.
As a William Lives In The Walls believer I think its still the case for 2 main reasons. 1) its Scott's original intention from FNaF3 part of the FNaF3's horror and genuinely good scares comes from the realization that since Phone Guy is the one telling us about the safe rooms being sealed, The Purple Guy was There The Whole Time. Its a small thing in FNaF3 and ill be the first to admit the animatronics being smashed prior to FNaF1 and The Purple Guy's motivations for doing so are a little shaky(at best he saw the robots moving and decided he Didnt Like That) but with more modern knowledge the motivations for MoltenMCI are a good explanation, I just think he failed that task and got got by ghostly second graders. William Afton is a character who fails upward and is so full of himself that he deludes himself to believing he succeeded(see his FNaF6 dialogue) I dont see any reason for Scott to have changed the timeline from his original intention. And if he did it would have been something we saw in FNAF6, instead of either Midnight Motorist or Security Puppet. 2 With a modern view of the series, it makes narrative sense for each game to be where Micheal and William barely cross paths and miss each other. The over arching plot of the series is Micheal's Hunt To Set His Dad On Fire(clarification I dont think Micheal really knew what he was doing when he set William on fire, I think he just saw an opportunity for things to go terribly wrong on his smoke break). Amoung other things, Micheal has many goals. I think this plan started in FNaF4 and i think its uncontroversial to say thats the main plot of the series during the Clickteam era. As for whether or not the funny cupcake bite creature is Springtrap or not im mixed. I don't actually think him being in the vents is that much of a problem, he had full access to Fazbear Fright's exit(its on a camera) and he chooses to kill Micheal. I also kind of like the idea of Bonnie being replaced by A Bonnie. I think my issues are 1 would William immediately kill Ralph? I mean yeah I mentioned the fact he stays to kill Micheal but theyve got a whole deal going on. Itachi Uchiha doesn't have beef with Sakura, ya know? Especially without any words or attempts at speaking, like my guy's been stuck in a room you think hed wanna know what year it is at least. 2) Is Springtrap a biter? Like sure he's a horror villain he'll kill you whatever way is spookiest in the moment. But right behind Spring Bonnies mouth is William's face its not really the same as Freddy ripping into your jugular. Entirely possible he is until you start getting freaky with it and I can see William thinking hes so clever for eating the Cupcake but Biting Ralph is where I'm a little conflicted.
Its also possible that the reason Elizabeth was alone with Baby and no one else seemed to have noticed WAS the Springlock Failure. A guy suddnlu screaming in pure agony WOULD attract attention and Liz just yoused this chance to go see Baby. And maybe it was both these incidents that caused William to abandon the idea
One other point: the office in Week Before has two security doors and a vent with a third door. This is odd, because there's no vent door in FNaF 1. There is an office that matches this description, though, in Sister Location. Is this a clue, a mistake, a narrative conceit, or were the vents sealed off by Fazbear sometime between Week Before and FNaF 1?
Actually, the week before does have a solution, and it was actually really creative when I read it. In the week before, it is said that the back of the office had lockers before Ralph moves them to reveal the vent. In Help Wanted 1, when playing fnaf 1 and turning around, you'll actually find these yellow lockers that Ralph describes.
Dave is 100% William As for the animatronic in the vents, my money is on Freddy. It even mentions in the book that the other animatronics give him space.
That is a good point and something I considered but I wasn't so sure freddy would bite Mr cupcake. It's probably the biggest reason I didn't say it was him other than us seeing bonnie in the other endings.
Ralph possibly having witnessed Elizabeth getting got is really interesting to me because if I remember correctly, Baby was only programmed to count CHILDREN and do her thing when she was by herself with a single kid. Initially I assumed she was probably programmed not to do that if adults were around, but that seems like something William could either have forgotten to take into account (it would tie in really well with his usually being a myopic guy with a ton of hubris) or intentionally decided not to program, in order to make sure the funtimes didn’t stop what they were doing if he happened to be around to make sure it worked correctly. Scott also seems to really love semantics, so Baby only counting children leaves a ton of room for an adult to have witnessed Elizabeth’s death, really.
Even if the cupcake eater wasn't Springtrap, I don't think this Dave necessarily has to be William. If we absolutely have to connect them, it's possible Silver Eyes Willy was using the identity of the real Dave. Plus, Dave is a pretty generic name.
Ok, wow, this book just keeps on giving... I love it. Ralph being Old Man Consequences feels so right. I completely agree with OMC looking like Foxy. That was probably Scott's intention. I don't know about the Circus Baby's Pizza World reveals tho, after all if that page wasn't meant to be there, the line about bring your kid to work day could just be invalid...and the timing feels too tight...like it wasn't intetional and feels like an error. But I guess the page is still in the book I suppose, so I can't argue any further. It would certainly solve a lot of Timeline debates, that's for sure! Now, speaking of Dave in this book... I have some things to add... just a few...... about Dave and the cupcake-loving mystery-animatronic... and let's just say... I don't think it goes one way or the other....... Oki now hear me out, I had a thought about this a couple weeks ago. About whether or not Dave really could be William Afton... First of all, before we start on Dave, let's take this into consideration; what is the ending of this book? And how does it come to be..? That's right, the phone... Ralph, living up to his title of Phone Guy, uses his phone to talk to Bronwen Light and eventually gets her phone to reach the true ending... Now let me remind you all, is Bronwen, mayhaps... alive when he calls her? Nay, she had already died nights ago... Meaning; Ralph, in fact, phone called a dead person... In fact, this happens a lot, doesn't it? Ralph reaching a signal that shouldn't exist...multiple times, his calls somehow reach the dead. Mostly Golden Freddy tho, I'll admit. But the fact that Bronwen is among them who serves such an important role in the story of the book is non-negotiable. This is an intentional pattern... Now, you may already be seeing where I'm going with this.. Ralph only ever speaks to Dave... on the phone. That's right, it's always been on the phone, never in person. Which makes sense, he IS on the job after all, he couldn't possibly meet-up with Dave... right? Then... why does Dave ask if he should come over?.... That's right, there is one time in the book when Dave asks this. Which really stands out to me. I don't remember the page, but one of the times Ralph asks for help from Dave, he doesn't like Dave's advice and talks back to him. Which really riles Dave up, and he says in a sort of threatening manner if he should come over then? To presumably handle things himself... But hearing this Ralph immediately backs down in an apologetic way... He really does not wanna meet this Dave guy, does he? Which tells us everything we need to know about Dave's character... He does not sound like a very nice guy, eh? But let's get back to the question. Can Dave really get to Ralph on such a timely manner? No, right? If he's anywhere outside of the Pizzeria, he shouldn't be able to get to Ralph so quickly... that is, if he's outside of the Pizzeria, isn't it? Now comes in the page read out in the video with the Mr. Cupcake-biting mystery animatronic... Let's just say, Dave kept his word about coming over to handle things himself now, didn't he? So in conclusion; it's possible Ralph has been calling the springlocked William Afton all throughout this book, while ol' Willy keeps pretending to be Dave just like the good ol' times. It does fit the theme of the book with Ralph calling the dead, and gives much needed characterization to game timeline William in a very subtle way. I haven't really gotten around to it, but re-reading all the Dave parts of the book with this context in mind could possibly reveal some new ideas. And honestly, even if none of this is true, I still wanna believe Dave is William, because it just feels.. right... y'know? Idk if it's a timeline error or intentional like I explained, Dave has gotta be William Afton somehow. Dave's actions just feel so Afton-coded... It feels like he's always one mood swing away from going on a murder-spree lol. He just sounds so aggressive whenever he talks. I suppose, for all we know, Dave and William could just be parallel characters-- hey- hold on, I meant, parallel as in the same continuity... Like how Henry and William are paralells... Oh, please don't cancel me guys...... Anyways, rant over. Btw, love your vids TerminalError, especially liked the last one on The Week Before. Really made me think of the book in a whole new way. I just know there is so much more to this book waiting to be discovered.
Bonnie is said to be the most violent in one of the ads for the movie and he also is said to have eaten a cat in AR, it is not out of the question that he would bite the cupcake
Love the theory dude.. this helps me lots and might figure out and see where I can put the dates on my own timeline and try and understand and make it good.. Yeah sorry I'm yapping on to much!! Loved the theory dude ❤
Dave is probably William... Or the real Dave Miller. The vent animatronic sounds more like one of the shadows. I've thought about Bronwen and Ralph becoming the shadows. This would mean Bronwen was protecting Ralph. Also I keep thinking of Ralpho from the frights books.
I know what I’m about to say doesn’t relate to the events in fnaf:the week before,but did anyone else notice that the offices in UCN represent William Aftons major events of his life?
I think Dave is more likely William, there are 2 animatronics Chica fear which are Freddy and Golden Freddy, also even know these are likely alternate scenarios in Phone Guys/Ralph head how did Springtrap get in a vent if he’s trapped in a sealed up back room, if there were vents in there he would’ve escaped long before FNAF 3.
Could it be something from Afton Robotics coming up into the Pizzeria? The Week Before seems to hint at there being a physical path (the vents) between the above-ground building and the bunker below.
Follow Me happening ANYTIME prior to FNaF 1 was debunked since FNaF3 came out. The MSSF happened in 1985, why? it was in, as stated by Ralph himself, another Freddy's location and the spring bonnie suit was used on the location of Ralph, in 1993 the location of Ralph was the same of when the MCI happened AND where Follow Me happened. The trailer for FNaF 3 showed us Follow Me in a cutscene-like way, showing that the animatronics were the same of the 1993 location + he took the endos and stole them to upgrade the funtimes, which, taking in mind that under that same theory William died prior to FNaF 1 would make FNaF 1 impossible to happen. Also, Dittophobia debunks the idea because Rory was kidnapped after the Web Pages were opened to everyone (which was in 1991) and Cell Phones were a thing (they first appeared in 1994), which puts his kidnapping post 1995, the thing is that his kidnapping was the same year as follow me, debunking Follow Me prior to FNaF .
The multiple simultaneous springlock failers (took me way too long to figure out what that acronym was lol) has to occur after 1987 due to the springlock suits not getting locked away by fnaf 2. Golden freddy attacks us in that game and Ralph mentions the "yellow suit" used to lure the kids. By fnaf 3 we learn that the suits are getting locked up in the saferoom meaning these suits shouldn't be out for anyone to see. I still think it's also possible for the following me mingame to be william dismantling the withered animatronics especially since Ralph points out how fazbear brought back the old animatronic designs before they tried to upgrade them. Is it what I believe does happen? Not currently but it's not off the table. Also cell phones were around way before 1994. First cell phone was made in the 70s
@@TerminalError The Springlock Suits weren't locked away in the Safe Room, they were meant to be taken away by Fazbear becaues of the Multiple Simultanious Springlock Failure, because of someone using the SPRING BONNIE suit they locked the room with everything inside, but they warned employees to take everything they needed from the room before sealing it, the only springlock suit in the room was Spring Bonnie as shown in FNaF 3. Now, you're right, the Phone thing is wrong, I just checked out and I was wrong about that, BUT Rory knows about web pages and a year after his kidnapping his parents made a web page for looking for him, which OH, the first web page, available to everyone (not military nor colleges, everyone) was in 1991, another thing to add is that this is prior to the invention of GPS's because Rory doesn't know that Cell Phones can now be traced by police, which was invented in 1999. The Cellphones were created in 1973, but started selling in 1983. So, yes I was wrong about cell phones, I misunderstood them with smart phones, BUT, there are TWO facts about Follow Me that prove that it happened AFTER FNaF 1. William took the endoeskeletons of the animatronics. It happened after FNAF SL. We know it happened after SL because of the fact that in Help Wanted we see the endoeskeletons of the FNaF 1 animatronics in a furnace, but we also see Ennard, who we melt together with the endos creating Molten Freddy. So, if William died AFTER SL, the FNAF 1 endoeskeletons are in a furnace and it's after 1991 but prior to 1999, then that places it AFTER FNaF 1. We know as a fact that the animatronics are possessed in FNAF 1, so, if they don't have endoeskeletons, then how are they possessed? Another thing to add, you yourself said in your video that you believe Elizabeth died in 1993 (which I desagree on), but if that's the case, then that would place SL even FURTHER AFTER FNaF 1 because it's YEARS after Elizabeth died, if Follow Me happens after SL then that sets FNaF 1 prior to Follow Me.
a bit nonsense Elizabeth and a lot of other children were there at the opening, there were no girls there because the baby doesn't say anything like that, she uses the word children/kids + wiliam owns this location so elizabeth wouldn't have to be here if he didn't want to
The "proof" is the paycheck lining up with the years minimum wage. But I'd agree it doesn't take place in 93 due to me thinking Elizabeth’s death occurs in 93 and this book implies it takes place after her death.
@TerminalError Fnaf 1 taking place in 1993 came from the first fnaf theory that Mattpat made! The theory states that fnaf is inspired by real events, and used the payment method to discover the date of the first game. He came to the conclusion that FNAF 1 takes place between 1991 and 1996, and he said it takes place in 1993 because the real events take place in 1993! Scott has already denied this theory several times, thus making the part that FNAF 1 takes place in 1993 false! The only date that could tell the date of fnaf 1, is that in silver eyes it takes place in 1995 and the first film takes place in 2000!
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I do like the idea of Elizabeth being the latest canon death in the pre-FNAF 1 timeline, because it firmly places Sister Location and Afton's springlocking after FNAF 1, and makes SL make a lot more sense. The only issue I'd have is that if the Circus Baby Pizza World cross branding came after the 1987 location shuttered, you'd kinda need Henry to have taken the fall for the MCI, leaving William to get the additional investors he speaks to in the opening scene of Sister Location.
Well what if he (Henry) had ? I mean, how come you never hear of him or face any consequences of his decisions as the head of fazbear ? Plus, the newspaper easter egg from FNAF1 gives us the information that a suspect wasn't convicted but charged with the MCI which obviously means that he had faced trial and was sentenced to prison. And he wouldn't have been sentenced to life as the bodies of the kids weren't discovered and thus wouldn't have led to the conviction of murder but of kidnapping (officialy, since we're pretty much sure of the fact that fazbear has hidden away the bodies from the animatronics). So my beliefs are that Henry actually went to prison for a long time, and somehow was releassed around the events of FNAF6 : Pizzeria simulator where finally we heard back of him. This would suit from a lore point of vue but i actually think that it fits from a game design perspective. It is very unlikely and far fetched that Henry was in the head of scott until much later games and books releases. So it would fit that he finds a lore reason of why henry was so much absent from the games. Additionally, i'd like to say that i strongly believe in @UnwitheredTruth 's theory that fnaf one is actually located in 1989 in the timeline, he did an awesome theory on that, the one actually mentioned into this video. So it would make sense that Elizabeth was the latest cannon death as mentioned.
The only points around this, as much as i believe that we're coming pretty close to sorting things out in this crazy timeline, that bothers me is actually free-roaming springtrap around the restaurant. If he could exit the saferoom through the ventilation, how come he didn't escape from there. The man behind the slaughter, William Afton, being undead and pretty much immortal trapped through hellish suffering BUT inside of a sort of killing machine makes very little sense to me of why he didn't go out seeking for his next victims.
Don't get me wrong, i do think that william died before the re-openning of the FNAF1 location and was sealed inside when the building was mend. But i don't think he was able to escape. Do i very much like the idea of a springtrap free to roam around in the restaurant, yes obviously. But at the same time i do find it quite unlikely. My opinion on this particular death is that it is a major misleading point put in there by Scott.
I'd very much like to know what you guys actually think about this, and i would be blessed to know what @TerminalError thaught about it and actually respond ! I very much liked you theory and find your work awesome so please keep it up !
I've been thinking about that too. I don't see a huge problem with Henry taking the blame since he is out of the picture for a few decades, and the only reason he'd be let out is due to more evidence showing up later from either more killings or something showing up in one of the locations proving Henry is innocent.
Either that or one of the fnaf 2 night guards took the blame, or William was arrested but like help wanted 1 says "nothing was ever proven in the court of law" leading to him being released.
She died at a location that had a Springlock suit. She had to die before the MCI because Springlock suits were no longer in use during the MCI
These smaller youtubers are what's keepin me in the fnaf loop lately...🔥🔥
On behalf of all smaller fnaf youtubers, thank you! We appreciate it a lot!
@@TerminalError
You deserve the recognition Ryetoast has. I don't like how he name calls at the beginning of each video... 😞
@@Adventist1997wym by name call? I haven't watched him in a while
@PaperBagProduction
He says it in a joking way... But he opens with "Ladies and gentlemen, and those with the good sense to do away with the whole notion." After seeing so many PR things from Disney and stuff lately, that just rubs me the wrong way, ya know?
@@Adventist1997 mans also be actin like they have this expectation that they should be in the next fnaf movie from the tiniest bit of UA-cam clout
I love the idea of Dave being William undercover again, but Scott loves reusing names (Just how many Jeremys are there?!) and Ralph is the one who makes the tape about the safe rooms being boarded up. That means Follow Me has to take place before The Week Before so William can be sealed away for Fnaf 3 and Ralph can record the tape before getting stuffed.
I'm so torn on William being in the vents. On one hand, it explains the bones from a different part of the book, explains why Chica leaves (sort off, honestly She would probably want to kick his ass but, I can totally also see her being afraid), it would explain why Mr. Cupcake is bitten as the weird for anyone except him (maybe Golden Freddy because he knows for biting, but again, why Mr. Cupcake. Also, he wouldn't be crawling, probably. ) and it would describe the description.
But at the same time, why and how? I mean, sure, I guess the Saferoom probably needs a vent. And if it's a sealed vent, he could probably get it open over time. However, I'm less concerned about how and more the why? Why is he still in the vents? Did he get lost for 30 years? He found the exit in this ending, and so did he escape? Maybe you can make the argument that he can't escape because he wouldn't do it during the day because people. And or his suit is so damaged that he can only move at night due to the programming. And maybe he can't do it at night because he can't get the door open. I mean, he stays in FNAF 3 for 5 nights when there is a clear as day exit door. He only leaves after the fire, so maybe he's so weak that he can't get doors open. But to that, I say break a window as I'm pretty sure this book suggests it has windows.
Maybe I'm thinking about it too hard, but if getting in the vents was an option, I don't see Springtrap staying put for 30 years.
I’m fairly certain it’s something weirder in the vents. Eating a fellow animatronic lines up with zero other behaviours I can think of. Eating in general seems to be reserved for Chica alone. But the other animatronic in the room IS Chica.
So who else has a big white smile and white eyes? I would say Shadow Bonnie, who would be JUST white eyes and giant smile if seen in the dark.
SB is apparently haunting both the FNAF 1 and 2 pizzerias (not in the 1st game but described elsewhere, I’m sorry, info is all over the place and I lose track sometimes haha).
Shadow Bonnie is formed from Agony. Into the Pit shows us that Agony can take an animalistic form. One that freaks out even the other animatronics, maybe? The Into The Pit rabbit is bitey as hell.
Generally SB doesn’t do much to us in the games, but he isn’t NON-aggressive as he can crash the game.
Shadow Freddy is another candidate. He also seems to be a shade of some sort made of Agony. I think Ultimate Custom Night describes him as “Afton’s evil made flesh” or something.
All I can think of is that Into The Pit shows us that the Agony entities can be unpredictable and violent. Sure, they aide the spirits indirectly (and directly) at times. But they’re scary and strange and lashing out at anyone that gets close is not out of the question.
Im pretty sure the "aftons evil made flesh" line was from Nightmare or Nightmare Freddy. Shadow Freddy doesnt appear in UCN.
Love your theories man, can't wait to watch this one!
Wait I watch your theories too! Keep up the good work!
@@TerminalError Well that's funny, thanks! Glad to know we both enjoy each other's work lol
@@TerminalErroryou do find a bone in the vents so I could be spingtrap
the vent creature being springtrap can't work because william has to decomission the animatronics before he becomes springtrap because of "follow me"
Ralph does say earlier in the book that they got rid of the old designs of the animatronics and replaced them with the original designs. Follow me could be William getting rid of the withereds
Not necesserely. It is entirley possible the Witherds where restores, already placed in the old now run down Pizzeria fore storage, William took them apart, and then they where rebuild and he was sealed up. In fact that makes the most sense cause one, Phone Guy is still alive when he tells them to seal the safe rooms and two why would they bother sealing those up when by all acounts the FNAF 1 location was Freddys first death bead?
@@neptuneplaneptune3367 why would they visually be shown as the normal animatronics in minigame then? Especially considering the fact that they had been shown as the withereds an literally every other minigame they are depicted in.
@@Man-qf1lwin the Follow Me minigame, they look like the withereds because Freddy and Bonnie have buttons and Foxy is fixed.
It’s both, he’s capable of going under cover *&..* secretly go to wear his spring lock Bonny suit while nobody is watching..
Plus if he’s in his undead Springtrap form the rest of the Animatronics would already be destroyed by now along with the fact that he can’t even leave his back room tomb he’d be locked up in after he dies.
True, but the book does say that it restored the animatronics to their original designs, meaning the withereds could have been destroyed and replaced with the OGs, giving us the follow me mini game
@ but if Springtrap could use the vents to reach the main restaurant halls & make his escape then why didn’t he? He’s a cybernetic necromancy mad scientist at this point who has lots of remnant experiments to conduct & the events of sister location can’t be set in motion for Michael to get scooped if William *ISN’T* trapped in the boarded up back room & presumed dead..
In order for the whole first game to be remotely possible the events of the “Follow Me” Minigame would have to take place after the events of FNAF 1 since the original Animatronics was not only dismantled but also melted down for the Funtime Animatronics to get their remnant injections otherwise the rebuilt Animatronics in FNAF 1 cannot possibly be haunted since they were rebuilt with *NEW NON HAUNTED ANIMATRONIC EXOSKELETONS* & at this point in timeline it’s just not possible for him to get another set of 5 or possibly 6 kids killed, stuff their corpses into the Animatronics ..& get away with those murders yet again when Henry Emily is surely onto him by now & knows his killing calling card.. 😕
Something also interesting to note, if coppelia went to Freddy's after her birthday in late November/sometime December and fnaf 1 happens in 92, that means she went to Freddy's the year of the MCI
11:11 DAVE REFERENCE HELL YEAH SPORTSY!!
Had to sneak you in somehow old sport
Hey more of a casual fan of yours but neat video as always. Though I uhh heavily disagree with the Elizabeth conclusion. Ralph implies there have been multiple bring your kid to workdays and even though it was only a Holiday in 1993 it still happened before 1193 so that doesn't check out. Also William is no longer associated with Fazbear ent by 1987 as they can't contact the og restaurant owner.
As for Omc, a problem I have with this is that Omc in the fandom is isually always treated as a good entity; he very clearly isn't. He doesn't just call William a demon but also the children and wants you to leave Ucn as it is. Letting everyone suffer. The point if ucn is that Ucn is a bad thing. It keeps everyone trapped and disallows everyone to move on. His entire purpose is to be wrong, William does need to be set free. So having Ralph be Omc feels wrong.
As for Dave? Well if it is William it's further proof Game William is nothing like Dave or Steve. Twb Dave actually cares about your life, even if he is kinda a jerk. But imo it's not William, nothing implies it's William. Ppl need to stop using the novels.
Moving on I wanted to share something interesting about TwB that connects to ITPG.
Randomly in TWB you find an old ID badge and can't tell who it belongs to. And later you find A golden ring, implied to be wedding ring, inside a cupcake and we've no clue who it belongs to. You could say it's Browen Light's (I believe she's Chica bully and that Cassidy is tricking you by pretending to be her which is a great theory on reddit.) But she's never linked to it. But what if these to item's were William's?
Now that may sound strange but it's actualy hecause in ITPG the Dad items are the following; His wallet, his ring, his nametag, and two photos. In ITP after getting these you find the William and Henry photo and Pit Bonnie collects this when you drop it for some reason, (and also freaks out), why? Because he's why your Dad's items were scattered in the first place; he's looking for his pieces.
And I think two of those items are in TWB, the nametag and the ring. Symbolizing how William never recovered his missing pieces. I always disagreed with Shatter-Victim but maybe Shatter-Liam was correct this whole time? It could even explain why William's death is so out of place, even if he did die he can continue to exist otherwise. It'd also explain why only Scraptrap can talk.
Anyways that's just my conspiracy theoryz I don't even believe it myself. But it's an interesting idea. Anyways, good video can't wait till the next one!
16:00 couldn't it be Fetch or maybe even Plushtrap? Also if William could get out of the saferoom what would the point be of trapping him in there? Logically thinking there wouldn't be a vent in the saferoom or else William would have just escaped before they found him in FNaF 3.
Shadow freddy perhaps?
It definitely could be fetch or plushtrap. It would feel weird to me though bringing one of them into this story just because they weren't really part of the fnaf 1 building while springtrap is shown to be springlocked there.
I also just assumed springtrap couldn't get out due to the vent covers. Ralph needs a screwdriver to open them and i don't think any animatronic uses them until he does implying they couldn't.
@@TerminalError Shadow freddy could be a possibility given its statements and actions ( " I am your wickedness made of flesh" )
but if Springtrap has access to the vents and therefore Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza in its entirety, why would he not just leave? He’s not really trapped in the safe room?
There’s also evidence in Follow me that there is no Vent that goes into the safe room from what we’ve seen, but that could also just be the minigame simplifying the room.
I think it’s time to put away William being spring trapped before the events of FNAF 1, with TWB being the final nail in the coffin
maybe the suit wouldn't let him
My assumption was that he couldn't get out. Ralph needs a screwdriver to open the vents and the one in the office is even more concealed by being hidden behind the lockers. Even if springtrap got into the vents from the saferoom, the vent covers in the Pizzeria stop him from getting out until Ralph opens them in the week before.
its amazing to see how different people (especially content creators) analyze the same content and in which bits of info they focus their attention
I like to see that too! I try watching as many other content creators as I can so i can see other people's perspectives on the same thing.
Elizabeth is stated to die in 1985, in the novel trilogy. The Novel Trilogy is quite correct with dates and years/ages, although locations are different.
After the MCI, William got charged and convicted, although shortly let go after due to "not enough evidence". After this, he fled under the new alias Dave Miller.
Personally, I believe the death order goes as following: David, Charlotte, Elizabeth, Susie's dog (ran over by William), Susie, Jeremy, Gabriel, Fritz, Cassidy, and then Andrew
btw nice theory with Ralph being Old Man Consequences. Hopefully we will find that old mans identity
11:10 Oh god, it's Dave.
How did he sneak his way in here?!
Something not related to this video but I'm suprised no one mentioned: in the night 6 ending, the way Golden Freddy kills Ralph is the exact oppisate of how he kills in the games. In FNAF 1/2/UCN, you're supposed to look away from Golden Freddy as fast as possible, otherwise he kills you. But in the week before, Ralph has a full on staring contest with him which only ends when he looks away.
Regarding the secret room, on pages 127 and 128, Ralph ventures into a section of the vents where there shouldn't be anything, "at least no room or area you can access normally." Ralph gets spooked by a dead body in the vents (who is that?) and doesn't enter, but this is clearly the safe room.
I'll have to double check that after work but I thought that was Ralph getting delirious from being in the vents and thinking he was traveling outside the Pizzeria. I might have read it wrong the first time so I'll go back and check.
Congrats Terminal, with this theory. You didn't burn the kitchen, you cooked well.
Thank you! This made me chuckle lol
As a William Lives In The Walls believer I think its still the case for 2 main reasons.
1) its Scott's original intention from FNaF3 part of the FNaF3's horror and genuinely good scares comes from the realization that since Phone Guy is the one telling us about the safe rooms being sealed, The Purple Guy was There The Whole Time. Its a small thing in FNaF3 and ill be the first to admit the animatronics being smashed prior to FNaF1 and The Purple Guy's motivations for doing so are a little shaky(at best he saw the robots moving and decided he Didnt Like That) but with more modern knowledge the motivations for MoltenMCI are a good explanation, I just think he failed that task and got got by ghostly second graders. William Afton is a character who fails upward and is so full of himself that he deludes himself to believing he succeeded(see his FNaF6 dialogue) I dont see any reason for Scott to have changed the timeline from his original intention. And if he did it would have been something we saw in FNAF6, instead of either Midnight Motorist or Security Puppet.
2 With a modern view of the series, it makes narrative sense for each game to be where Micheal and William barely cross paths and miss each other. The over arching plot of the series is Micheal's Hunt To Set His Dad On Fire(clarification I dont think Micheal really knew what he was doing when he set William on fire, I think he just saw an opportunity for things to go terribly wrong on his smoke break). Amoung other things, Micheal has many goals. I think this plan started in FNaF4 and i think its uncontroversial to say thats the main plot of the series during the Clickteam era.
As for whether or not the funny cupcake bite creature is Springtrap or not im mixed. I don't actually think him being in the vents is that much of a problem, he had full access to Fazbear Fright's exit(its on a camera) and he chooses to kill Micheal. I also kind of like the idea of Bonnie being replaced by A Bonnie. I think my issues are
1 would William immediately kill Ralph? I mean yeah I mentioned the fact he stays to kill Micheal but theyve got a whole deal going on. Itachi Uchiha doesn't have beef with Sakura, ya know? Especially without any words or attempts at speaking, like my guy's been stuck in a room you think hed wanna know what year it is at least.
2) Is Springtrap a biter? Like sure he's a horror villain he'll kill you whatever way is spookiest in the moment. But right behind Spring Bonnies mouth is William's face its not really the same as Freddy ripping into your jugular. Entirely possible he is until you start getting freaky with it and I can see William thinking hes so clever for eating the Cupcake but Biting Ralph is where I'm a little conflicted.
Its also possible that the reason Elizabeth was alone with Baby and no one else seemed to have noticed WAS the Springlock Failure. A guy suddnlu screaming in pure agony WOULD attract attention and Liz just yoused this chance to go see Baby. And maybe it was both these incidents that caused William to abandon the idea
If you need another kill event you could always go with Foxy Go Go Go. Ultimate Guide says it's separate from the Give Gifts Give Live killing
Yeah no 10 kids didn't die at Freddy's. It was always the 5 missing children accident.
That is true, but Elizabeth's death was too good to pass up, especially because she's the owners daughter
Bro, I was watching your previous video (which introduced me to your channel) and now this?! WOOHOO!
I'm glad you came back for more!
Don't stop making videos, whenever you release one it becomes a banger!
Wasn't planning on stopping anytime soon
One other point: the office in Week Before has two security doors and a vent with a third door. This is odd, because there's no vent door in FNaF 1. There is an office that matches this description, though, in Sister Location. Is this a clue, a mistake, a narrative conceit, or were the vents sealed off by Fazbear sometime between Week Before and FNaF 1?
Actually, the week before does have a solution, and it was actually really creative when I read it. In the week before, it is said that the back of the office had lockers before Ralph moves them to reveal the vent. In Help Wanted 1, when playing fnaf 1 and turning around, you'll actually find these yellow lockers that Ralph describes.
@@TerminalError But in HW behind those lockers is an exit not vents so that's weird...
Dave is 100% William
As for the animatronic in the vents, my money is on Freddy. It even mentions in the book that the other animatronics give him space.
That is a good point and something I considered but I wasn't so sure freddy would bite Mr cupcake. It's probably the biggest reason I didn't say it was him other than us seeing bonnie in the other endings.
11:10 IS THAT FUCKING DAVE??!??!?!?!
Idk how he got in there
Ralph possibly having witnessed Elizabeth getting got is really interesting to me because if I remember correctly, Baby was only programmed to count CHILDREN and do her thing when she was by herself with a single kid. Initially I assumed she was probably programmed not to do that if adults were around, but that seems like something William could either have forgotten to take into account (it would tie in really well with his usually being a myopic guy with a ton of hubris) or intentionally decided not to program, in order to make sure the funtimes didn’t stop what they were doing if he happened to be around to make sure it worked correctly. Scott also seems to really love semantics, so Baby only counting children leaves a ton of room for an adult to have witnessed Elizabeth’s death, really.
Even if the cupcake eater wasn't Springtrap, I don't think this Dave necessarily has to be William. If we absolutely have to connect them, it's possible Silver Eyes Willy was using the identity of the real Dave. Plus, Dave is a pretty generic name.
Ok, wow, this book just keeps on giving... I love it. Ralph being Old Man Consequences feels so right. I completely agree with OMC looking like Foxy. That was probably Scott's intention.
I don't know about the Circus Baby's Pizza World reveals tho, after all if that page wasn't meant to be there, the line about bring your kid to work day could just be invalid...and the timing feels too tight...like it wasn't intetional and feels like an error. But I guess the page is still in the book I suppose, so I can't argue any further. It would certainly solve a lot of Timeline debates, that's for sure!
Now, speaking of Dave in this book... I have some things to add... just a few...... about Dave and the cupcake-loving mystery-animatronic... and let's just say... I don't think it goes one way or the other.......
Oki now hear me out, I had a thought about this a couple weeks ago. About whether or not Dave really could be William Afton...
First of all, before we start on Dave, let's take this into consideration; what is the ending of this book? And how does it come to be..?
That's right, the phone... Ralph, living up to his title of Phone Guy, uses his phone to talk to Bronwen Light and eventually gets her phone to reach the true ending...
Now let me remind you all, is Bronwen, mayhaps... alive when he calls her? Nay, she had already died nights ago... Meaning; Ralph, in fact, phone called a dead person...
In fact, this happens a lot, doesn't it? Ralph reaching a signal that shouldn't exist...multiple times, his calls somehow reach the dead. Mostly Golden Freddy tho, I'll admit. But the fact that Bronwen is among them who serves such an important role in the story of the book is non-negotiable. This is an intentional pattern...
Now, you may already be seeing where I'm going with this..
Ralph only ever speaks to Dave... on the phone.
That's right, it's always been on the phone, never in person. Which makes sense, he IS on the job after all, he couldn't possibly meet-up with Dave... right?
Then... why does Dave ask if he should come over?....
That's right, there is one time in the book when Dave asks this. Which really stands out to me. I don't remember the page, but one of the times Ralph asks for help from Dave, he doesn't like Dave's advice and talks back to him. Which really riles Dave up, and he says in a sort of threatening manner if he should come over then? To presumably handle things himself... But hearing this Ralph immediately backs down in an apologetic way... He really does not wanna meet this Dave guy, does he? Which tells us everything we need to know about Dave's character... He does not sound like a very nice guy, eh?
But let's get back to the question. Can Dave really get to Ralph on such a timely manner? No, right? If he's anywhere outside of the Pizzeria, he shouldn't be able to get to Ralph so quickly... that is, if he's outside of the Pizzeria, isn't it?
Now comes in the page read out in the video with the Mr. Cupcake-biting mystery animatronic...
Let's just say, Dave kept his word about coming over to handle things himself now, didn't he?
So in conclusion; it's possible Ralph has been calling the springlocked William Afton all throughout this book, while ol' Willy keeps pretending to be Dave just like the good ol' times.
It does fit the theme of the book with Ralph calling the dead, and gives much needed characterization to game timeline William in a very subtle way. I haven't really gotten around to it, but re-reading all the Dave parts of the book with this context in mind could possibly reveal some new ideas.
And honestly, even if none of this is true, I still wanna believe Dave is William, because it just feels.. right... y'know? Idk if it's a timeline error or intentional like I explained, Dave has gotta be William Afton somehow. Dave's actions just feel so Afton-coded... It feels like he's always one mood swing away from going on a murder-spree lol. He just sounds so aggressive whenever he talks.
I suppose, for all we know, Dave and William could just be parallel characters-- hey- hold on, I meant, parallel as in the same continuity... Like how Henry and William are paralells... Oh, please don't cancel me guys......
Anyways, rant over. Btw, love your vids TerminalError, especially liked the last one on The Week Before. Really made me think of the book in a whole new way. I just know there is so much more to this book waiting to be discovered.
Bonnie is said to be the most violent in one of the ads for the movie and he also is said to have eaten a cat in AR, it is not out of the question that he would bite the cupcake
Love the theory dude.. this helps me lots and might figure out and see where I can put the dates on my own timeline and try and understand and make it good.. Yeah sorry I'm yapping on to much!! Loved the theory dude ❤
Glad I could help! Also you ain't yapping that much, you've seen me on stream lol
Dave is probably William... Or the real Dave Miller. The vent animatronic sounds more like one of the shadows.
I've thought about Bronwen and Ralph becoming the shadows. This would mean Bronwen was protecting Ralph. Also I keep thinking of Ralpho from the frights books.
Hey sportsy, !pipe
The pipe has scared my very soul
I think the bring your child to work day might be more in line with Charlie’s death
I love the idea of dave being willie a because of dual process theories meltdown about ralph and dave dating
Wait wat
Was that in a livestream I missed lol
7:26 Holy shit you also think Ralph shares parallels with David, same. The ironic part is that Foxy is Ralphs favorite yet Davids least favorite.
Elizabeth death being on january 7th, 1985 is the only way to make sense, before the mci
You look like what Run Burgundy would look like if you looked at him from the distance and his toupee and mustache models hadn't loaded yet
I know what I’m about to say doesn’t relate to the events in fnaf:the week before,but did anyone else notice that the offices in UCN represent William Aftons major events of his life?
I think Dave is more likely William, there are 2 animatronics Chica fear which are Freddy and Golden Freddy, also even know these are likely alternate scenarios in Phone Guys/Ralph head how did Springtrap get in a vent if he’s trapped in a sealed up back room, if there were vents in there he would’ve escaped long before FNAF 3.
Idea: The thing in the vent was the pipe.
(Have a great day everyone!)
You don't forget your kid hating something, especially if it's your work.
wait wait wait... my joke theory that william afton did the bite of 87 might just be coming true after all along :o
Could it be something from Afton Robotics coming up into the Pizzeria? The Week Before seems to hint at there being a physical path (the vents) between the above-ground building and the bunker below.
Springtrap vent theory mentioned 🗣🗣🗣
The eyes and smile made me think of Pittrap... 🤔
11:02 HELLO, OLD SPORT
FIRSTTT LETSSS GOOO🎉
Follow Me happening ANYTIME prior to FNaF 1 was debunked since FNaF3 came out.
The MSSF happened in 1985, why? it was in, as stated by Ralph himself, another Freddy's location and the spring bonnie suit was used on the location of Ralph, in 1993 the location of Ralph was the same of when the MCI happened AND where Follow Me happened.
The trailer for FNaF 3 showed us Follow Me in a cutscene-like way, showing that the animatronics were the same of the 1993 location + he took the endos and stole them to upgrade the funtimes, which, taking in mind that under that same theory William died prior to FNaF 1 would make FNaF 1 impossible to happen.
Also, Dittophobia debunks the idea because Rory was kidnapped after the Web Pages were opened to everyone (which was in 1991) and Cell Phones were a thing (they first appeared in 1994), which puts his kidnapping post 1995, the thing is that his kidnapping was the same year as follow me, debunking Follow Me prior to FNaF .
The multiple simultaneous springlock failers (took me way too long to figure out what that acronym was lol) has to occur after 1987 due to the springlock suits not getting locked away by fnaf 2. Golden freddy attacks us in that game and Ralph mentions the "yellow suit" used to lure the kids. By fnaf 3 we learn that the suits are getting locked up in the saferoom meaning these suits shouldn't be out for anyone to see.
I still think it's also possible for the following me mingame to be william dismantling the withered animatronics especially since Ralph points out how fazbear brought back the old animatronic designs before they tried to upgrade them. Is it what I believe does happen? Not currently but it's not off the table.
Also cell phones were around way before 1994. First cell phone was made in the 70s
@@TerminalError
The Springlock Suits weren't locked away in the Safe Room, they were meant to be taken away by Fazbear becaues of the Multiple Simultanious Springlock Failure, because of someone using the SPRING BONNIE suit they locked the room with everything inside, but they warned employees to take everything they needed from the room before sealing it, the only springlock suit in the room was Spring Bonnie as shown in FNaF 3.
Now, you're right, the Phone thing is wrong, I just checked out and I was wrong about that, BUT Rory knows about web pages and a year after his kidnapping his parents made a web page for looking for him, which OH, the first web page, available to everyone (not military nor colleges, everyone) was in 1991, another thing to add is that this is prior to the invention of GPS's because Rory doesn't know that Cell Phones can now be traced by police, which was invented in 1999.
The Cellphones were created in 1973, but started selling in 1983. So, yes I was wrong about cell phones, I misunderstood them with smart phones, BUT, there are TWO facts about Follow Me that prove that it happened AFTER FNaF 1.
William took the endoeskeletons of the animatronics.
It happened after FNAF SL. We know it happened after SL because of the fact that in Help Wanted we see the endoeskeletons of the FNaF 1 animatronics in a furnace, but we also see Ennard, who we melt together with the endos creating Molten Freddy.
So, if William died AFTER SL, the FNAF 1 endoeskeletons are in a furnace and it's after 1991 but prior to 1999, then that places it AFTER FNaF 1.
We know as a fact that the animatronics are possessed in FNAF 1, so, if they don't have endoeskeletons, then how are they possessed? Another thing to add, you yourself said in your video that you believe Elizabeth died in 1993 (which I desagree on), but if that's the case, then that would place SL even FURTHER AFTER FNaF 1 because it's YEARS after Elizabeth died, if Follow Me happens after SL then that sets FNaF 1 prior to Follow Me.
actually, there was one empty room when you come from the vents
a bit nonsense Elizabeth and a lot of other children were there at the opening, there were no girls there because the baby doesn't say anything like that, she uses the word children/kids + wiliam owns this location so elizabeth wouldn't have to be here if he didn't want to
Gomez? Is that you?
Nobody saw Elisabeth die though
Why are you cowboy Pedro Pascale sometimes?
Lol he's supposed to represent the audience in some way with how he asks questions, I just happened to have a cowboy hat.
Fnaf 1 is not set in 1993! There is no proof that this is the date of the first game!
The "proof" is the paycheck lining up with the years minimum wage. But I'd agree it doesn't take place in 93 due to me thinking Elizabeth’s death occurs in 93 and this book implies it takes place after her death.
@TerminalError Fnaf 1 taking place in 1993 came from the first fnaf theory that Mattpat made! The theory states that fnaf is inspired by real events, and used the payment method to discover the date of the first game. He came to the conclusion that FNAF 1 takes place between 1991 and 1996, and he said it takes place in 1993 because the real events take place in 1993!
Scott has already denied this theory several times, thus making the part that FNAF 1 takes place in 1993 false! The only date that could tell the date of fnaf 1, is that in silver eyes it takes place in 1995 and the first film takes place in 2000!
11:00 Oh god, it's Dave.