Is the Ford Mach-E Better Than Mustang GT? Better than Tesla Model Y? | Jason Cammisa on the Icons
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- By putting the Mustang name and badge on it, Ford got us to care about the Mach-E - a midsize SUV similar in size to the Edge.
Should we? Jason spends time with a Mach-E, a very sideways 2020 Mustang GT PP2, and a Tesla Model Y Long Range to find out.
Cashing in the Mustang's brand equity on an SUV might seem like a disingenuous PR stunt, but it's not, and for several reasons. Primarily, the badge fed back into the Mach-E's development, resulting in Mustang-like looks, Mustang-like steering, and Mustang-like handling. Or, put another way, Mustang-like appeal.
Secondly, the internal combustion engine is being outlawed. Ford has no choice but to pivot towards electric cars. A lesson taken from Silicon Valley is that to survive (whether by innovation or evolution) you have to be willing to sacrifice your current products or brands.
So, can the Mach-E keep up with a Mustang GT in a drag race? How about the Tesla Model Y? Which is the better SUV?
You'll have to watch to find out.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction with Mustang GT
0:25 Head-On Collision and Birth of Mach-E
0:55 Silent sports car doesn't sell
1:50 Mach-E Handling
3:38 Mach-E in the real world
4:24 Love affair with the Mustang GT PP2
6:18 What "Mustang" means
6:43 Mach-E Styling Analysis
7:40 Phone call with Jason Castriota
9:58 Ford is zigging
10:38 Mach-E vs Tesla Model Y Drag Race
11:28 Tesla Model Y Long Range Review
13:08 Charging and road trips in EVs
14:19 Overly Dramatic Drag Race - Mach-E vs Mustang GT
16:03 Real-world drag race
16:48 Henry Ford Quote - people want an EV
17:44 Sucker!
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Jason Cammisa is the true spiritual successor to old Top Gear, the films are about stories, ideas, and emotions. They just happen to also center around cars. Bravo!
In a way he's like a blend of all of those three blokes. He has the witty personality like Clarkson, energy of the Hammond and knowledge of May.
'pointless fooling around' .. and lowering overall IQ-of the programme to 'idiocracy' starndard .. is what killed T-Gear for car people .. (for 'normal' people-) ..
Lets not forget TG presenters used to be car-guys ... now they are just another .. celebrities ( - that GrandTour junk is 'unwatchable' ..
( .. and what's funny > James May seems to be the most .. mature and 'factual" .. >) ..
Jason and Rory Reid holds the torch for car reviewers right now. The old trio moved to the entertainment realm. They deserve it, they've been doing it for too long.
The red tape! Just amazing. It's like when old Top Gear crossed out GT500 with a permanent marker and wrote what the actual horsepower was.
500th like was from me
To be fair, i watched the entire video because of Jason Cammisa, not the Mach - E lol
Clearly the end-point for Ford to get even more of our attention, they just hire Jason themselves
They could also try having some decent quality control 🤷♂️
But I will buy a fully loaded Mustang Mach-E 4X Premium.
^THIS!!!^
Same
Fair point, Jason could review a banana and I'd watch it
These Icon videos with Jason are so unbelievably good. I find myself watching episodes about cars I don’t even care about because the videos themselves are so entertaining!
This makes me so happy to own a GT. It truly is an icon that doesn’t get enough credit because of people that steer into crowds.
Brining in Jason fricking Cammisa is the Second best decision Hagerty made after providing decent insurance for us car dudes!
Yeah, but you gotta love Davin!
They do insurance ? I thought it was a UA-cam channel
Hagerty sells insurance ?
@@RCRitterFPV yes, for classics/modern classics and collector cars. I have my e30 insured thru them. They have been doing it since the beginning and the rates are actually good.
Indeed, they do agreed value insurance. That’s where you agree what the car is worth ahead of time, not some “book value” that they make up. And since they insure car folks, they aren’t scared by a high performance car, just low performance drivers.
If Ryan Reynolds doesn't want to be Deadpool any more, i know the perfect guy for replacing him. 👍🙂
Lol
OMG think of all the working out I'd have to do... 😂
@@JasonCammisa you can be his brother, Breadpool.
Adam Sandler...
Absolutely spot on.
16:03 I combat the getting into gear issue by watching the other light and getting into gear when it turns red
What an amazing transition, from the Mach e in palm springs to my arm hair standing on edge over the sound of the 5.0. Electric cars are fun and ludicrously fast, but they'll never have that make your hair stand on edge sound.
The production value dear god. It's a joy to watch.
Thank you!
@@JasonCammisa Seriously amazing stuff. Love it.
@@JasonCammisa Godda hand it to your sound guy or girl. The audio is on point (especially the induction noise from the coyote). Looking foward to the other icons.
You’re right, you got me to watch the whole thing. Having just purchased an I3 as a grocery getter, I may not consider the Mach-E, but the Tesla? That’s another possibility. Great review!
Seriously this is very impressive - keep it up @hagerty!
2 years ago I couldn’t tell you what a Hagerty was. Today it’s the most up and coming automotive UA-cam channel
And insurance company
Jason Cammisa: all-round car nut (one of us!), engineering nerd, funny guy, and one heck of an entertainer.. Now that's a "winninger" formula than even a MachE! Kudos to the director, editor, and script writer for an outstanding video.
The choreographer of this video deserves a raise 🙌🙌
I believe we have reached "Peak Cammisa" with this episode. Bravo sir, Bravo!
Hagerty has done well by letting Jason do his thing. MOAR!
Oh yes, please! Exact my words but earlier.
Still love that lancia episode tho
"Peak Cammisa" implies the existence of "Valley Cammisa"
people have been calling "Peak Cammisa" for years... yet he manages to outdo himself every week.
Issimi gt500 video and the cardmudgeon show was peak Cammisa.
Jason, Ford didn't get us to watch the video - you did. Excellent context as always!!
Heh, thank you!
True
@@JasonCammisa J John nailed it
So glad to see Jason Cammisa is back making videos on the reg. He truly is the most entertaining and informative. Love this dude and his content!
Didn’t even know Hagerty was an insurance company. Some awesome content on this channel!
By putting jason in this video, hagerty got you to watch a whole video on a midsize SUV you would have otherwise never ever cared about. 😇
I read this comment at the same exact time it was said in the video 😭😭
I know right 😂😂😂
True... I only watch the videos with him in it
JC killing it again. In a video sponsored by an insurance company he’s running over people in a mustang. Gold.
JC the Mach-E designer?
@@TheUrbanEpicure No, JC, the famous British automotive journalist.
@@TheUrbanEpicure Jason Cammisa.
Possibly the best EV video I've ever seen. Didn't seem biased, didnt lick tesla's balls, reason over speculation, objective vs subjective , logic vs biased emotion. Thanks for not leading me astray. I would say "us" but for the 10''s of thousand of tesla fan boys living in their parents basement this changes nothing. I love tesla, I just hate all its other lovers.
Jason is my favorite automotive host, bar none. I've watched car content since 2009 on YT and watched velocity and motortrend as a kid. His understanding of car culture, engineering, manufacturing and design processes, how companies make their decisions, what people will really want, what things really mean in reality, his humor, his very accurate observations are amazing.
Mine, too, and I agree!
@@randypobstofficial and there’s no favorite driver/reviewer than you for me sir, thanks for all you do!
Hagerty got a hell of a deal with this budget Adam Sandler...It's like the old top gear but with greater value and better teeth.
What a nasty to thing to call anyone. Sandler sucks - and doesn't even suck well. J.C. rocks.
“It turns your commute into an event” so right Jason!!! That’s why I bought a brand new car with a manual last year for my new daily and it was the best decision! Every drive is play time.
What kind of car? It’s SO hard to find manuals these days!
@@gregoryf9299 Hyundai Veloster N. I never would have considered Hyundai before, but all the hype online about the new N's made me curious, so I test drove one, and it was awesome. Ordered one the same day. Excellent little hot hatch.
That's awesome. So many people drive sports cars with autos because "the traffic." What!? Why not drive another SUV then?
You guys should turn on the CC when watching their videos. They have some quips and jokes in it. Love the little details these guys put into their videos.
Jason Cammisa can make a video legendary. He alone knows how to tell a good story. Thank you hagerty for letting him do these really high quality videos!!
OMG the tape on the car had me rolling XD
i was dying. I knew before what they were trying to do before the emphasis on the bulk.
I was okay with putting mustang badge on an electric car but not a crossover
All they had to do is make the current Mustang with an electric drivetrain, even if it's a new chassis.
@@MiGujack3 Ford put the electric drive train into the kind of vehicle that sells like hand warmers at an outdoor hockey game. Hard to blame them for that. I agree that they could have done better than to name it a Mach E, but I don't blame them for stirring up controversy. It's free advertising from people who wouldn't buy the thing anyway.
Such superb production quality. The audio of the Mach-E vs GT drag was phenomenal, and that transition from Chuckwalla to Palm Springs was so cool.
LOVE your shows man! Keep them coming! Glad I stumbled across them. Love the history, the detail and most of all the humor! Nice job Jason and Hagerty!!
This is the best car review I’ve seen since the Grand Tour. Period.
this is better.
Except Jason's actually funny
This series is just phenomenal.
Best American journalist hands down. Where everyone else is pretty darn lazy, Adam here puts in endless work.
Side note for Hagerty: If you were a bit less stringent with what, and how you covered. You would completely corner the market. Every single enthusiast on earth would switch to you.
Just found this channel and have loved everything Jason's put out so far. keep it up!
"Life is too short to be PC"
*roars off with offensively satisfying engine noise*
Amen Jason. Amen.
Omg what is this quality of the production !!!
I'm here Jason Cammisa. Keep them coming! Awesome final line, worth watching the whole thing as a setup just for that!
I just want to point out the audio production in these videos is astounding. Congrats whoever you are !
Jason reminds me of Jezza. He deserves his own show where he just goes bonkers with whatever vehicle they ask him to review. He could review the Fiat Multipla and I'd still watch it with the same excitement as he reviews a Shelby
Except unlike Jezza, he’s not scared of the future or in denial about why we need to go all electric.
@@Dylanbforthree Because of lies about CO2
@@Me-zo8yc Lmao keep stuffing your ears and yelling "la la la" while the world burns, don't have kids lol
@@Dylanbforthree Well that's me convinced. You make a good argument. I'll trust the government and corporations about everything from now on. Thanks Dylan!
I drive manuals for the same reason I follow Jason: Cars aren't always fun...but they CAN be.
Outstanding work from your team again.
This is some next level camera work! Informative and Joy to watch
That video was outstanding, especially the end. I really think Hagerty is doing themselves well with their UA-cam channel. Jason has been an awesome face for the channel and the production team knows how to keep a viewer engaged; it isn't only educational, it's fun.
I've seen three Hagerty videos on cars I've owned and it was all spot on.
I want an EV.
I have my gas powered Mustang GT. I will be keeping my car until I die!!!
Can you get gas from the wall socket in your home/garage ???
@@kylereese4822 That’s what gas stations are for
@@insayn7995 Yea it the only place you can get it.... just like rent its dead money...
rent - not your own..
ICE only 30% propulsion from liquid fuel..
Silent speed? So I'm not even enjoying myself while getting a ticket
Jason as always is great by the way
Then you bodily senses are dead. Can you balance standing up?
True that. That’s why I’ll never own an EV. I’m lucky enough to own four loud fast cars. They are always lots of fun.
@@Closertotruth2 That's because you spend more time cruising than concentrating on driving hard. I get if you just want to lounge and do some pulls. But if you are Canyon Carving or in Controlled Environment. I'd rather have a car that has inherent highly capable handling and instant response. It's a more visceral driving experience.
@@Neojhun My five Porsches include a 991.2 GT3 and a new Spyder. I know a bit about driving hard. I have no interest in a Taycan let alone any Tesla.
@@Closertotruth2 LOL That's weak sauce. The entire point of Porsche is that they are the comfortable almost daily drivable track car. There is many other BEVs outside of Taycan & Tesla which are far more fun than even Porsche GT cars. The most bad ass stuff right now are Petrol Cars converted to BEV using Tesla drive train. But back In my day were using Zilla Controller, Two NetGain Motors & Prismatic Bricks. Those were the most intense driving experiences I ever had. Makes your 911.2 feel like a family car.
I didn't watch the video because of the Mustang, or the Tesla. I watched it because of you. You're the human embodiment of that screaming Mustang V8, of fun, and even with how logically you present things you still remain a true car guy.
Great video as always but still think it’s going to be a sad day with no V8 or petrol cars! Life will never be the same or sound the same again! From a 58 year old man who remembers when cars sounded like cars!
Glad that I have ordered a manual Toyota Gr 86
JC is undeniably the #1 motoring journalist in the world (with our UK JC #2). Great work jason
Top 3 for sure, but are you not a Chris Harris fan?
@@nathanchildress5596 The man who killed the manual transmission Giulia?
@@cgmoog Hahaha Ouch!
A car show with Jason, Chris Harris and Matt Farah would be unreal. I would never stop watching.
You forgot Randy Pobst 😉
@@randypobstofficial of course! That's a must!.
these videos are so well done and thought out and informative
Just love your work. Great video, keep em coming please.
Hagerty deserves an emmy or whatever exists for auto content for this show. Fantastic
People need to watch this with CC on, it’s snarky AF 🤮😛👍
Gee, I don't know what you're talking about... 😇
I got the whisper part as well (I am not a native english speaker)
now I need to watch it again! oh bother :D
Sure mach e
Okay this guy is a f***ing genius… literally the only human being capable of making me feel okay about an electric suv mustang… pure genius…
14:16 do people buy cars for emotion tho? With all the gray, front wheel drive, automatic transmission, diesel crossovers on the road I wonder what emotions those people have 😅 Probably not car-emotions but rather other priorities in life.
You know what Oaks? Yours is the most kind, wise and perceptive comment I have ever seen. Many many other folks using cars for transportation are not car enthusiasts, and that’s perfectly okay, because we all have choices and different tastes. I say, bravo, Oaks.
I have a 1954 dodge and I will not stop driving no matter what they tell me
I have 73 stingray, and she loves drinking dinosaur bones!!! 🤣😂👍🏾
perhaps outside of city centers in the near future, I don't think anyone's going to force you to stop driving an existing car. after all, Ethanol (fuel alcohol) conversions aren't exactly the most difficult thing to achieve should gasoline go away
My used 2008 Prius with body damage was a logical purchase as it got 52mpg. My 1057 Chevy 3200 with a patina to die for was an emotional purchase.
@12.50 ff "The car is 4.7 times larger on the inside" The only place I have ever seen that is when Harry Potter walked into his tent at the World Quidditch Championship.
This is what modern Top Gear should be doing. Great video Jason and Hagerty team.
Jason, you've got a great production team
You are so right, it’s a team. Director Anthony Esposito is the man behind the man. And editor, and camera people, and rest of team 👍👍😁
@@randypobstofficial Hi Randy!
That ending about the Mustang name on an suv getting us to watch. Genius!
This was one of the best filmed, edited and engaging videos yet! Unbelievable job! I'm so disheartened by the view count because wow. Simply Phenomenal!
I don't think Mach E will replace mustang entirely I think we'll get a EV Mustang as well this is more of a brand expansion rather than kill the sports car
I seriously hope you are right.
I hate it anyway
@@renato7184 as you should it's blasphemy
Watching Jason Cammisa videos is always refreshing! It's like watching the old Top Gear, informative and insightful in a very entertaining way.
the only 30min video I didn't get bored even a split second. glad I found this channel
Honestly, never heard of Jason Cammisa before lockdown, or Hagerty, but now I'm hooked on him and the videos he's featured in about cars... There's something about his humour that is very British (does he have British relatives or lived in the UK?). I love electric cars and I love that Jason's embraced them for the successor of the ICE vehicles they really are. Most are far superior to their ICE powered counterparts and, despite what many misinformers will try and tell you, are much better for the environement than traditional internal combustion.
I did used to love Top Gear, but I think Jason is my new favourite guy to listen to, waffle on about cars.
WOW! Just WOW! Jason, you are such a great reviewer! Plus the video editing at Hagerty is just amazing! Best review of the Mach E by a long shot!! Covered everything!! Well Done!!
Love this video essay! Excellent filming and editing, too. Like I said before: this is the new golden standard. Hoping to see a BTS footage of this film
8:46 why am I suddenly getting flash backs to when you used to do Head2Head's with Johnny? lol
Thanks Jay, love your commentaries.
Hagerty allowed Nivea and tissue in the video? Awesome... Excellent Cammisa as usual.
The air is very dry in the desert. I get bloody noses and my skin gets all dry.
Jason did it again, he makes the videos so enjoyable, yet informative and fun to watch. 👍👍
Amazing video! Very insightful and honest to itself. You got my sub.
He didn't mention the Ford can't go full power for more than 5 seconds straight without significantly reducing it's power output. The thermal Management system isn't capable. Evidenced by the 101 mph trap speeds vs the 114 for the base model y. Kind of a big fact to omit but this channel is great now 👍
Damn! This is something epic and ICONic ❤️❤️ More power to you Jason. Love from India ❤️
Amazing work Jason and team! You keep raising the bar.
This is great content, perfect balance of humor and information. 👍🏼
I follow all sorts of car media outlets and this is BY FAR the best review I've seen of the Mach-E. Well done Jason!
I’ve heard Auto journalists do a lot of things in press cars, but I feel bad for the Ford employee who had to clean out the...um...used...tissues & crumpled up photo of the T.50 from the rear of this thing.
I pray🙏 synthetic fuels go through cause I just don't see myself owning an EV 😞
They will. The EV thing is just a way to get money from dumb trust fundies. They saw how people buy cell phones and are capitalizing on that bad decision making by selling them 100k cars that are unrepairable and instantly worthless.
@@mikescherrer4923 👍
sadly, main issue I forsee with synthetic fuels is it'd be EXPENSIVE and likely hard to come across. it'd be about as practical as daily driving a car requiring 95aki fuel, very few to no places sell it.
@@cpufreak101 That is currently true, but necessity and economy of scale would bring the cost down. E85 is an engineered fuel that works well, but it’s hard to produce in the quantities that are needed. I can imagine a world where there are multiple synthetic fuels to meet different needs, allowing lower production of each to be sufficient. I just know that digging all the lithium up isn’t the answer, we know how much there is and it ain’t enough.
@@mikescherrer4923 don't forget though, as time goes on they'd also be competing with different battery chemistries that would likely use more plentiful materials, I know Aluminum-Air batteries come to mind for that, along with many others that we cannot even imagine as of now. Even today Fuel cost versus charging is a losing battle for ICE, with charging being as low as free if you have home solar
Hagerty was the channel for watching Redline Rebuilds! Now we have so many great shows here on their UA-cam channel. I didn’t really watch Jason before, however, I certainly will now! Great job guys!
Another great vid, Jason, thank you.
Perfect ending line.
it is clearly a product of focus group discussions, we want this and we want that and all in one car, it can only come out compromised. Colin Chapman said "if you make the suspension adjustable, people will adjust it wrong". Well I say if you give clueless people off the street the right to design a car they will design it wrong. Educated people like engineers and designers should just make cars that are as little compromised as possible for their respective price point and public should pick one and roll with it
Said the petulant child right before he stuck his thumb back in his mouth. You are solidly in the very small majority, and will soon be steamrolled by the future - EVs.
The problem with making everyone drive an EV is that no enthusiast is going to jump for joy at the thought of one. We love our cars because of their noise, personality. And ability to truly road trip anywhere. No one seems to realize that not only does that mean less income for car companies which will charge more for the cost of new developments for evs etc, it also means our electrical structure will suffer as it wont support all of us driving evs all the time. Id rather walk, and i know im not alone.
If you watched this without closed captions on, you missed out. Really nice extra layer of awesome. Extra respect for the production.
I will never stop reading your calendar!
Please don't. 😏
@@JasonCammisa Great work!
Until they can fix the range and charging issues with an EV, I can definitely go back if i had the opportunity to drive an EV. EV has no soul, and as an owner of a S550 GT, I can't find too many EV's that have a soul like that.
Production and content = pure class. Most professional and high end channel on YT imo.
Whoever was in charge of the captions is a pure genius!
what happen to comment section nobody talking about the way they edit and presentation video kills top gear
Legit proper Top Gear vibes. Keep up this incredible work! JC is fantastic as always, and the production value is insane.
"It transportates well."
You said it all, very succinctly.
My god! Even the subtitles are perfect hahahahaha hagerty is killing it, specially with jason and matt, this is truly awesome!!!
Why cant we just fight the EPA for our internal combustion masterpieces at least for our enthusiastic drives if not commutes...
We do, can and will
You can fight the EPA. You can't fight economics. Even if the US were to stick it's head in the sand regarding moving away from ICEs, most other countries are moving towards full EV within a few decades. And when that happens US automakers will be forced to move to EVs regardless.
@@hydrochloricacid2146 there are multiple more effective solutions, between what porsche is working on, czinger is working on, mazda, ect. Not only that but we as enthusiasts could be speaking up about keeping our respective sports and hobbys alive because if the epa has their way, we can lose all of it decades before electric takes over. A test of a rocket or a short stint on a cruise ship both use more than 100 years of ice emissions in a matter of minutes. Minutes! So is our multi billion dollar performance industry just null and void? Are we going to let it be targeted and eliminated with almost no fight?
@@Nick22257 Citation needed on that comment regarding emmissions (though cruise ships are admittedly terrible from that standpoint).
Synthetic fuels are a great on-paper solution, but there's every reason to doubt they can actually become a competitive solution cost-wise.
@@hydrochloricacid2146 look into why ethanol is becoming more expensive, then you should be able to infer why i have more faith in synthetic fuels than i do our infrastructure for electrics. With emerging battery tech they could be moving in the right direction (feasibility wise) but it terrifies me to think the general populous really desires a more numb even less engaging experience of travel. Ive been hit multiple times by people who claimed they just “didnt see me” so if they are gonna trust tesla or ford to drive for them? Im going to move into the woods and build hillclimb cars.
So we’re really just giving up like that??
I love you captions guy.....and J.Cammisa!!!!
Wow! I'm glad ur able to express yourself freely my guy. This whole production was excellent. I'm surprised u did a real world test! MAD RESPECT FOR THAT.
Rush's Red Barchetta is getting closer and closer to reality :-(
Gleaming alloy air cars?
You sold me a little more on electric cars but even more on mustangs but i still cant do the whole electric car thing. Im always open minded but i love sounds and i love shifting. If it cant replace that sound or the tactile feeling im just not biting. Great work once again though.
Don’t worry, the EV fad won’t last long. People will start to realize it’s just marketing. 70k for an f150 that doesn’t outperform or last ask long as a 40k f150? Not something the tradesman I know are into...
They're for woke soccer mums who want to feel good cause they think they are saving the environment!!
@@mikescherrer4923 Ah, but it does outperform an ICE F150 and lasts as long as it needs to. At the rate EVs are improving, they will kill ICE vehicles very soon now. And fad? To the tune 0f 29 BILLION that Ford alone has invested - and it's only the beginning. It's the future, like it or not. Soon we will be grinding up ICE F150s to line our driveways so that we can park our vastly superior electric vehicles on them.
@@AMan-he9sz lmao have fun shelling out 3-4x what a vehicle is worth for your shitbox giant RC car. I’ll keep my repairable, serviceable actual truck... but I’m not talking about getting smoothies and cruising the mall for cute nonbinaries, I’m talking about work and transit, not trinkets for the wealthy. Get at me when the military starts buying electric hmmv replacements... oh, that will never happen because they don’t want disposable garbage on a battlefield. But you clearly like giving rich people money, so that’s cool.... You should be sure to buy your cuckmobile with Bitcoin so it will already have polluted more than an ICE vehicles lifetime output on day one, that’s popular now. But assuming everyone is as stupid as you, where do you get all the lithium?
@@jethrox827 Yeah, and rich people who don’t even care about pretending it’s good for the environment. Elon wants to mine lithium on Mars because he knows we are already on a bubble. This is a farce. In 20 years we will be driving ICE cars running engineered fuels, and laughing at the idiocy of the “electric car era”. We’ve been here before, remember.
Thank you for your efforts to make such an amazing videos 💜
Great review. Loved it.
It's going to sound like heresy, but I'd love an electric Mustang convertible.
It looks great, can be a hooligan, just utterly quiet and cheap in upkeep.