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Genesis GV60 vs the EV world: feat BMW iX, Tesla Model Y, Mach-E GT, C7 Corvette - Cammisa Drag Race
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- It's the world's quietest drag race - Genesis GV60 Performance versus BMW's new iX xDrive50 versus the Ford Mustang Mach-E GT Performance Edition and the benchmark Tesla Model Y Dual-Motor Performance - until a C7 Corvette Stingray Z51 shows up.
The question we're answering today: who makes the quickest mid-size people-mover - and we drag race them to find out, complete with our signature Cammisa Replay, explaining what you just saw.
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0:00 Genesis can do no wrong
0:51 GV60 vs Mach-E GT vs iX 50 - 1/4-mile Drag Race
1:51 Drag Race Replay: Fast EV SUVs
4:07 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Z51 vs Genesis GV60 Performance 1/4-mile Drag Race
5:29 Tesla Model Y Performance vs Genesis GV60 Performance 1/4-mile Drag Race
6:45 1/4-mile instrumented testing results
7:10 Ask Hagerty - part of the Hagerty Drivers Club
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I was not aware of how quick that Genesis is
infomercial
me neither.
I’m telling you, the Koreans snapped. And we’re witnessing the results.
WHO CARES ... Its just another POS ev that real car enthusiasts dont care about.
@@ACommenterOnUA-cam Oh wow what a genius you are! Too bad there are countless thousands of us enthusiasts who do care about it.
The EDITING SKILLS are CRAZY. Who do we thank for this?!
Cammisa videos are head and shoulders above everything else on the internet.
I mean that editing gives me feels like the slow motion scene in Superville Superman series, remember?
His name is in the credits at the end.
@@robertdavidsanders wait a secondddddd
@@yohan7083 Smallville!
The hyundai brand has been absolutely killing it lately. All the Genesis vehicles look great and from what I've seen are plenty luxurious. The N lineup punches so far above its weight in terms of price too. And don't even get me started on how good the N cars exhaust note is.
I agree, it seems the most fun and inspired cars this generation come from Korea.
Too bad they have bad quality control and have badly designed interior.
I really like how precise the starts are with your drag races. Both cars leave the line almost perfectly in sync. It bothers me with carwow how one car always has a jump on the other because the start is so imprecise.
I think their driver skill level is slightly higher (no offense to Matt). At least carwow is better than Sam CarLegion although they are improving by switching drivers.
just means they put more effort into getting the camera shot of the start looking correct.
good on Cammisa and crew for the attention to detail, but remember the results of these races are figured out using vbox or similar and then the filming is done to reflect those results while making it look exciting.
Yups
@@Talynen They certainly do a good job of that, then
@@ryankuypers1819 Well Matt isn't a very good driver, you can argue he's a good journalist if you're into automatic gearboxes and mispronouncing Porsche but driving fast just isn't a skill of his
Congrats on the Lucid Air video award. 100% deserved. No one can dispute that.
We’re not fighting about it. 🤣
The only one that might would be Harris... after the Throttle House boys pinned him to the back glass hahahaha
@@Hagerty The M2 CS - Supra video was the best you guys ever did then comes the M3-4. I still watch it from time to time. Keep it up guys. I look forward to every Thursday. The Grand Tour, Rev-Icons, AutoTrader UK, and FortNine are hands down the best production quality on YT.
I don't get it ?
You may wanna watch Hoonigan' This vs That, they are more barbarical , lmao
I drove the GV60 and when you hit the boost button it’s a riot. The outside looks dorky to me but looks are subjective. The inside was a very well appointed cabin, but the white steering wheel was already turning Greyish from whomever had been driving it. Talk about a sleeper though.
The Kia EV6 GT is about to launch this year in the US. That car has almost 600 horsepower. We might have to run that race back with it. 😅
Wait until ioniq 5 N comes out
Wait until ioniq 6 N comes out
maybe yes. But Kia and Hyundai's production line-up is inexplicably lacking. Something is not moving in the construction of factories in this concern.
I've had a pre-order on the ev6 GT since may 2021 (I live in Denmark), and just today had a call from kia telling me that I can expect delivery q3/q4 2024... So, be patient if you want an ev6 gt... Very, very patient!
We may need all Hyundai drag race.
I love Jason “boop” -ing the BMW wheel and the “well done, you pretty” to the Genesis at the end. The cutesy stuff really adds to the overall vibe. Love these short segments. Amazing work!!
What?
Wish he could do that to Derek after every podcast 😏
@@barsaf9989 You no Engrish?
@@ytsux9259 ¿por que?
Genesis just keeps pulling out all the tricks. How can you not love the GV60? Impressive and beautiful design.
Expensive
Beautiful? None of these cars in this video look "beautiful". Not even close.
Bmw looks way better imo.
@@ju4121 what are you smoking? It's (almost) objectively terrible looking.
And the genesis actually has luxury features compared to the price. Tesla cost more than luxury counter parts but without the features.
Man, I am so lucky! I own the GV60! It is really fun to drive and looks great, and lots of room for the family.
Congrats on your GV60! I am in love with the Genesis brand, I just can’t afford one right now!
Curious what you paid over sticker if anything. It seems by me dealers are taking advantage of customers and raising prices 10%-20%. Also curious if you live in an area with colder weather and how the GV handles that with regards to range.
@@ThatMattGuy I live in BC, Canada. Paid full price of $79K. During the cold snap of -20C weather, lost about 30% range. Really bad for a long drive as had to recharge every couple of hours. Also, have a great feature where battery will pre-condition for a charge. However, this only works if NAVIGATING to a high speed charger and takes up to 30 mins. I was getting extremely low charging rates of 45-70Kw on 350Kw charger. So, slow charging, full rates. My battery pre-conditioned only one time and was able to double that speed. Still well below summer charging speeds
It looks like jumbled ass but I hope it treats you and your family well.
Good luck with road trips and software updates. Tesla own supercharging and software. And their $10/month for internet connection is splendid. Also Tesla's car insurance rocks. FSD actually works.
Why do people can not see the obvious. Space X owns.
Remember the "Japanese miracle" of the 70s and 80s?! These days we're witnessing the Korean one.
That Genesis is seriously quick, I guess I didn't get to appreciate its speed when I test drove. It was low on battery and it was spinning all 4 tires in sport mode. Which is insane to me.
It’s under-tired for sure
I'm honestly shocked by the Genesis. Too sad how the Japanese are failing so bad in the EV segment. Good for Korea!
The japanese cannot keep up with koreans in the technology. Even in consumer electronics, Sony has to buy OLED screens from samsung/LG.
Why is Japan lagging with electric cars? They were pioneers with hybrid card in the 90s and 2000s so it is strange how US and Korean manufacturers are making so many more interesting and better electric cars these days.
@Haircafe the japanese have peaked in technological advances in the 90's
@@haircafekevin
They bet on hydrogen heavily and the CEOs, board members and politicians are too prideful to admit they were wrong. That can summarize a lot of problems in Japan.
@@user-bl2po7fp9c
No really. Toyota bet on hydrogen over pure EV for the longest time. Only now the mindset is starting to shift but Akio Toyoda and his board members are greatly underestimating how brutal the market shift will impact them, which is why they're sticking with hybrids so much.
I received a GV60 as a loaner one time and decided to press the pedal and see what it can do, and man when I tell you that thing had me literally glued to the seat! Felt like I was in some Exotic sports car!
Wow. That Genesis GV60 is so impressive. Didn't know it was that bloody quick.
Funny you raced the GV60 against the C7 Stingray. I have a GV60 Performance and a C7 Z06.
This guy gets it!
Can't wait to see what the EV6 GT can do in this comparison.
The EV6 GT would chew them all up
It will be faster for sure, the funny thing here is the tesla is an 11.8 car so maybe this is a legit race but then maybe all these cars should run Faster. The EV6 will be 3/4 tenths faster than the Y.
@@raydoherty5419
They film these videos at a desert track in California, where it is quite hot this time of year. Heat doesn't help battery performance.
@@jimiverson3085 I know that but if they are going to do this whole video couldn’t they at least make sure both cars get a good start in the final race? The guy driving the tesla was asleep and the tesla was walking down the Genesis all the way to the end but he gave up so much at the start he couldn’t get it back.
@@jimiverson3085 It helps when you batter fish though 🐟
Another GREAT JOB Hagerty and Production Crew! Your team puts in so much work and it shows. Looking forward to see how you're going to top 2022. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!
You do know you can keep hitting the boost button continually on the GV60
Really? Interesting why they chose to do it that way if so, why not just omit the button all together if there’s no issue continually keeping it in “overboost”?
Will it actually do anything? Think he mentions there is a 10sec time limit before power reduces. MachE is much worse at 5sec.
I have the GV60 Performance and can confirm that there appears to be no limit on how many times you can hit the boost button in a row.
Perhaps they don't want you to abuse the feature or cause the battery to overheat hence the button? Just my guess
@@johnsacks7398 How much "juice" are you using each time you hit that boost button though?...
Great video. Love my GV60.
I loved my Gene's G80 5.0 V8. Glad I got my Z06 instead but that Genesis was my favorite car out of everything. It was way nicer than my past Mercedes and BMW's
People should take Genesis more seriously, for a company that makes great products people tend to overlook it and go to mainstream brands (BMW, Mercedes, Jeep, Ford etc)
Genesis is really showing it's stuff.
I call them the BMW killer.
I have a 2022 G70 3.3t Sport Prestige. Insane bang for buck than an M3.
I have a 2021 GV80 and spend copious amounts of time telling and showing everyone how fantastic it is
This has got to be one of my fave Hagerty videos yet. Awesome production and utterly mesmerizing from the start! As a new owner of a cutesy 2023 GV60 Performance, I am now giddy yet terrified of the grocery-hauler in my garage... ;)
You know you can always push the 'Boost' button again in the GV60 after the 10 seconds runs out. It would do even better.
I think there's a cooldown period of time after each use in which the button becomes inactive that would prevent you from just continually pressing the 'Boost" button.
@@moogle68 no limit, can go again straight away.
@@moogle68 Actually I haven't found a limit to how many times you can press it in a row - other than the speed you are going :) We received ours about 2 weeks ago now, and it's a ton of fun.
@@billlijewski1888 wow, then yeah that is surprising that they went with just a 10sec boost instead of using the button as like a "Sport +/Track Mode". They could've called the mode "Overdrive" since the thing doesn't belong on the track at all, which may have been why they didn't want to use the typical "Sport +/Track Mode" names that other companies tend to use in similarly non performance-oriented cars as the GV60. "Overdrive" doesn't refer to any kind of motorsport, it's just a technical term for a gear that was used in the past to help some cars accelerate better.
@@moogle68 no limit, you can hit it right after
The good thing is: I can now watch reviews of ev's on 1.25 speed, because there is no engine sound that can be ruined :-)
I do the same but at 2x speed
@@CarToneHK samehere 2x all the way
Is this a new thing that you kids do to consume more content overall? Don't you feel like the accelerated timing of everything prevents you from truly enjoying the content? No matter how fast you may think your brain can think, reality still moves at the same pace, and your brain is better at processing information at that speed, so you may consume more information overall by watching stuff at 1.25-2x speeds, but the impact of what you saw and the understanding of the content is probably being diminished by doing so.
Absolutely love these video's! The visual effects are STUNNING keep up the great work!!
GV60 is only one here with rimac's 800V architecture, just like Porsche and Performance Audi.. it's technologically superior to BMW and Ford Mustang when you look at re-gen figures, charging speed and temp/voltage control... I can't believe I'd ever see a day I'd say that... and it's not even at the limit of the architecture, EV GT6/Ioniq 5 N is coming with higher output and unlike other EV's they expect the car to do full lap around nurburgring without battery pack overheating (thanks to 800v system), a feat which Tesla Plaid and M3P can't do.... and you gotta go to 100k + EV like Taycan or Etron GT to achieve
As a Korean I just want to say this- Korea numba 1 🇰🇷🇰🇷
Genesis is really impressive in every aspect besides the Hyundai dealership image and experience. The current BMW EVs are still on CLAR, their existing architecture for ICEs, but they will be on new platforms designed for EVs starting 2025. So, expect them to catch up if not jump ahead of the competition by then.
Good luck to the flailing software company (Tesla) now that the real automakers are serious about making EVs.
Yeah the Tesla Plaid has the 2nd fastest production EV time with an overheated battery right? The only reason it is second fastest is because Porsche a slightly modified Taycan wearing Pirelli P Zero's less than a month ago.. Also the Plaid was limited to 163 mph and not running P Zero's..
And the 800V architecture means nothing when the Porsche Taycan Turbo S had it's ass handed to it 4 times in a row in by the Model 3 in the Japanese EV race series..
Technically the plaid battery can go a full lap, just the cast iron rotors can’t keep up.
@@revaddict Well Japan EV series, Taycan was running a faster laptime by 2 seconds in all the races and only had issue after 5-6 laps while being stock, Model 3 P had extensive modification for cooling. (Also 1-2 second difference for 1 model 3, other model 3Ps were least 5-6 seconds lower than Taycan) 5-6 laps in fuji is around 1.5 laps in nurburgring and basically a session in regular trackday. Also, after the mid 21' patch, stock M3 P would only have around 3-6min full attack capability on track before going into battery protection mode, so 15-20min in Taycan is marginally better, despite this being their first EV model, thanks to 800V architecture.
Also, what's the point of being 2nd fastest EV when you overheat in the middle of the lap? It just shows that performance is not repeatable.
I'm just saying, Porsche/Hyundai charges battery faster, has higher regen, and overheats less quickly despite spending significantly less R&D and having less EV development exprience due to 800V system.
@@revaddict The Plaid time was set with a modified car. You can see from the onboard video that the driver was lifting at parts. Could have been to keep the battery pack or brakes from overheating, or both.
I'm not sure what your point is besides blindly defending Tesla. Neither car is perfect, but Teslas definitely have overheating problems. Just compare 0-60 or 1/4 mile time dropoffs after just 2 or 3 runs for any Tesla vs a Taycan.
Truly impressive Genesis and truly beautiful car.
Yes 😋
Well done, Genesis!
Can't wait to see the EV6 GT with 585 HP ...... Superb video, and superb editing !!
The BMW, doesn't need a grill, so why on why would they choose to do that? 🤢🤮
The Koreans ain’t playing games no more. Even Hyundai and Kia are pumping some seriously good cars.
its their time to establish a name, since the established companies such as bmw with its recent design choices and the whole heated seat subscription drama are losing public confidence. These korean companies are putting in the work that companies like bmw and audi once did for their consumer market.
International award winner right here folks!
that 10 sec boost can be used back to back.
(or I should say, there is no defined 'cool time')
Amazing content dude! production values are through the roof every time!
I've only recently discovered Mr. Cammisa's videos here on UA-cam. I must say that he has a top-level combination of knowledge, screen presence, clarity, genuine enthusiasm for the subject, writing skill and humor.
The world is a better place for his existence.
I love love love that finish line visual trick. Gets me every time.
Just another well produced video that I have shared like 20 times already..... once again well done, all hale Cammisa
Kind of annoyingly good almost, right?
Great comparison👍. The Genesis is growing on me.
I really think an Jaguar i-Pace will be interesting to battle the Genesis GV60..
That Genesis looks really beautiful.
No. No it does not
@@robsmall6466 agreed lol it's hideous
@@robsmall6466 To each their own.
@@naahh A Prius is hideous. Gain some perspective.
@@ryankuypers1819 both can be hideous
The video editing on Hagerty is insane! Great job and keep it up! 👍🏼
Well done Genesis 👏 👏
Genesis is great looking! Wish it was 6000lbs GVWR!
my model y runs high 11s all day at 116mph
4:46 Oh wow, that V8 just sounds glorious!
My pick
genesis gv60 is great. i like the interior, it's all smooth, the functions are placed perfectly, specially safety features. feel true luxury, better than those $80,000 other cars. boost is enough to speed. need more speed is only go to racing track not on regular street. genesis will keep on top for a while, for sure
Wow....that GV60 was impressive! This EV just moved to the top of my list. Love everything about it from the size, style, interior, and performance.
Genesis is hyundai's premium brand like lexus. The inner design of genesis is really stunning. I recommend to you beige color for inner side. Each meterial of Genesis is really high quality.
한국분이시군요 ㅎㅎ 😂
@@XERXES23 네 한국사람이라 한국차의 우수성을 전세계 사람들이 알았으면 합니다. 제네시스는 브랜드의 역사가 짧아서 아직 이미지정립이 안된 것 같은데 실내 디자인과 품질, 소재의 퀄리티는 이미 렉서스급 그 이상이라고 생각합니다. 다만 서비스의 품질향상이 되어 외국분에게 많이 어필할 수 있으면 합니다. 한국에 살면 이미 블루핸즈가 많아 서비스도 최고이지만 미국에서는 부족한 것이 사실이니까요.
@@krclever22 네~맞아요~그런데 해외채널 다녀보시면 아시겠지만 실제 체감하고 계신분들이 많거든요 ㅎ 여하튼 좋은일 하시네요 ^^
I'm attracted to Hagerty's videos as much as bugs are attracted to light... such a good job.
I get that EV's are the inevitable future for many of us, and the ones here make for fast trips to Costco and grandma's house and insulated drives to work, which is realistically what most people are doing with their cars. And the Corvette wouldn't be used for those purposes (necessarily) and is here for some contrast and comparison. But the sounds that Corvette makes gives me goosebumps! And has the appropriate license plate to go with those noises. I'm not ready to let go of cars that elicit some kind of emotional response just yet. 🤷♂️
I enjoyed every minute as always. Thank you! That Genesis is indeed impressive!!! The end is hilarious...
Amazing what Genesis has managed to accomplish on such a short time. I own a 2022 Genesis G70 and that little rocket rips. Love everything about it.
Still a Hyundai 😂😂😂
@@ebonix33 wow, wasted laugh emojis for lazy joke .. 🤔
@@ebonix33 said by a walker wishing a Camry
You just make me lmao every time while still giving us entertaining and informative information and the editing, the editing is next level. Thanks again.
Wow that’s the slowest Y performance compared to drag times getting 11.9 and Edmunds getting 11.8 and a host of other sub 12 times that I have witnessed . Even the Tflc channel can get a 12.1 out of the Y performance! What gives? All of those Y performance models are 2020 to 2021 that I listed. I wonder if Elon slowed down the 2022 Y performance model?
No worries. That's probably also GV60's slowest drag times. 🤣
awesome video! really good special effects and editing!
I would love it if the full list of drag race results they show at the end was available! Great episode as always :)
There are reasons why your videos win awards. This is so great! A Hyundai beating everyone? Holy smokes!
hyundai was poor man's car brand, but now with the new EV revolution, they have a very good chance to be the real luxury brand that also has one of the best performance/quality.
I got to check out the GV60 when my brother had it a couple months back for his channel. That thing is insanely fast for a practical, daily driver (or most anything for that matter).
Well done Genesis!
Can't wait for the EV6 GT and IONIQ5 N. They are really making wonderful cars nowadays.
Never knew genesis ev was this fast
Everytime I see this show on my feed I get so excited. It feels like an anticipated movie that just came out and is going to be great.
Wow! GV60 is the champion.... amazing EV.
The quality of the production is amazing!
Times must be really tough, that Adam Sandler resorted to doing phone tech support for Hagerty.
@6:19 you can see the Model Y slept a fraction off the line, but truly impressive performance from the GV60.
The Tesla has one more trick up it’s sleeve… A $2000 power boost upgrade to drop 0.5 seconds from the 0-60 time…
I tried this Over The Air (OTA) update on my Model 3 and the difference is 🔥
That Genesis looks amazing though
This one doesn’t actually have performance boost available. I own one (and a model 3 LR which does have the $2000 boost available)
@@raydoherty5419 Are you sure? Gali did a video where he boosted his MYLR. Would seem weird to not offer it for the MYP.
@@roryreddog3258 positive. I own one of each and performance models don’t have this option.
The editing on this was phenomenal! Keep up the good work!
There must have been something wrong with that Model Y. There isn’t a single Model Y on the Dragy leaderboard that ran a full 1/4 mile that slow. Most of them are around 11.7 seconds. What did you do to make that vehicle half a second slower?
Jason I was so happy to see you in my UA-cam feed today. Absolutely love your style of presenting. I have tried to describe to a friend and the best I could come up with was as follows. ( lets say you took James May, Richard Hammond and Jeremy Clarkson Mashed them into one person then dumped a pot of coffee down there throat with a six pack of red bull for a chaser, finish it off with a Xanax to level off your creation.....and Bammmmmm... You have Jason. All of that is meant as a compliment. Love your stuff man. Thanks for brightening my day.
He's literally the best car journalists out there
I see Cammisa in the title I click, no questions asked, and always... Happy
damn that genesis is fast AF
Genesis has enter the automotive world and in less than 10 years made themselves true competitors
Epic, or should I say Electrifying!
That V8 never gets old 😮💨😮💨😮💨
Moms are gonna be crushing people at stoplight drag racing
Kudos to Hyundai/Kia/Genesis for embarrassing the Germans yet again as they’ve done so many times before even around the famous Ring. And that’s even before you factor in the huge cost to keep most anything German on the road once the warranty expires. And kudos to the Koreans for challenging even Tesla. One has to wonder what happens when say Honda catches up in this EV performance game?
High volt system with SiC chips and high power battery are the enabler for such performance.
Jason these videos are phenomenal…please bring more🔥🔥🔥
I love the selection of cars!!!! The editing is second to none. Best car videos out there. Keep up the good work!!! 😃
it is mind blowing the level of production quality of this channel
I don’t even comprehend how it is possible to add Camisa on top of a slow mo close up of the cars - anybody know?
It’s weird that the MYP is so slow, it should do low 12s in many other tests....
Yes very quite the coincidence that this is the slowest quarter mile by a model y performance from any reviewer and in just the perfect amount to be slightly slower than the car they are being paid to promote.
Please make this into a tv show! The production quality is INSANE for UA-cam and a longer running show would be incredible.
Thank you for another great video!
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1. It's the GV60 Performance.
2. The GV60 Performance starts at $68k vs. $57k for the Model Y Performance.
3. GV60 Performance has 235-mile range vs 303 for the Model Y Performance.
Can't be sure, but considering Genesis is Hyundai's you can assume that the battery will have similar performance to Hyundai EV batteries in the cold: -20%+ vs. -15% (verified) for Model Y.
Higher price, lower range, similar acceleration performance.
Nope, still not able to compete with Tesla.
The GV 60 better built than any Tesla, +400lbs heavier and still wins. I know what I'd buy. The Vette did far better than i expected, damn I'd love to see an AWD version of the new Vette.
Korean elec car is future.
My model Y runs an 11.8 qtr mile. The model Y in this video has to be down to 60% SOC to be running at that time. We need more transparency in these videos that include SOC. FYI
This is the best car channel on yt … love the edits and Visuals. Great host as well thank u guys
proud to own a C7 and ready to roll by 60mph at least
It'll be a loooong time before anything electric can set lap times like a Vette. Even the plaid has boat-like performance on a road course. And even when a Tesla eventually does reach that benchmark, I highly doubt it'll do 200 mph.
Nurburgring:
ZO6 sports car, 7:22
Plaid family sedan, 7:35
13 sec. Some boat, lol!
The GV60 is pretty decent looking for what it is, apart from the wheels which look like they could have been pulled from Pontiac's parts bin in the 2000's.
those are optional btw
My parents bought a palisade and turfed the wheels within 5 mins of taking ownership. The hyundai group wheels are fugly!
I am currently living in Korea. The Genesis GV60 is expensive, but it's a car that everyone wants.
I think the current number one among all electric vehicles is EV6 GT and then GV60.
Recently, Hyundai & KIA Insane
Genesis GV60 Performance model - 426hp, not 486hp
Jason,
You are awesome, you guys make the best videos ever. I'm a true fan!
That corvette sounds 🔥🔥🔥
As an unabashed Tesla fan (EV fan first, Tesla fan second), I'm *happy* that there are some great alternatives to Tesla now. I'm even happy that the Genesis was a little quicker. Competition is a great thing, and having a wider selection of top notch cars can only help matters. I was annoyed with the first round of Tesla "alternatives" because so many of them were crap, or at best disappointing. Now we're seeing some real, high quality and desirable alternatives. This is great! And it's only going to get better.
Some of the best automotive content on UA-cam right now
If you repeat the same race several times, the performance of Tesla and gv60 will be clearly visible. I think the cooling system and stability of the gv60 battery would be better.
oh snap, Cammisa gets a Hyundai - WHERE IS THE ELANTRA N?
It’s amazing how far Hyundai has come in just a few years. From something of a joke 40 years ago to a so-so brand 20 years ago to truly world class today. The Genesis keeps up with Tesla’s amazing engineering while surpassing it in terms of building a complete car with first rate build quality and creature comforts.
I love the way the BMW looks. The boxy front end gives it a nice stance. Anyways, I don't care about speed. Give me something that is fun to drive and make great noises. My favorite car that I ever owned is a 2000 Civic Si. 1.6l 160 hp, 8000rpm (8200 cutoff), under 2700lbs, 5 speed short gearing (3rd gear 88mph) no abs, no traction control, great handling and VTEC KICKED IN YO. A non obnoxious exhaust and a cold air intake made all the right noises. It gave the sensation of speed without actually going fast. Same with my non turbo RX7 FC, around 150hp RWD manual. The rotary sang.
We're all too lost in this speed war. Look at Camissa, he drives a e30 wagon, a Rabbit, and 190E 2.3 16, neither are what you would call fast, but I'll bet my life they're more fun to drive than anyone of these EVs.
That Genesis Looks gorgeous in this video/.... Such an inspiration is this Camissa videos.... Pure Style........