Time Team S19-E11 King John's Lost Palace
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- Опубліковано 17 бер 2013
- Tony and the Team don their hunting green, pick up their bows and arrows and head for the fringes of Sherwood Forest, where residents of Clipstone village in Nottinghamshire believe some impressive ruins in a farmer's field may have played a part in the ancient tales of Robin Hood and Bad King John.
The history books describe these crumbling walls as the remains of a royal hunting lodge. But the locals believe it was actually a palace: a vast complex of chambers, chapels and halls where King John stayed when hunting in Sherwood Forest.
Royal hunting lodges were very popular with the kings of medieval England, and John was no exception, but was this one so grand as to be more important than all the others?
The extensive building records and a few tantalising high-quality carvings prove there was certainly a fine building somewhere here, but finding out what it looked like and how large it was frustrates the archaeologists for a good while.
The trenches reveal a great array of finds, but it's not until the clock is counting down the third day that all becomes clear...
Tony is so impatient and Mick is so patient with him. Such a gentleman and loved his archeology. The worl lost a treasure.
I love Phil's passion. If we all showed the same passion and determination for life that he does everyone would be happy.
RIP Prof. Mick Aston, 1946 - 2013.
+MooPotPie www.westerndailypress.co.uk/profile-life-Time-Team-archaeologist-Mick-Aston/story-19385226-detail/story.html
🙁😔
To my mind,the unheralded hero of this entire 20 years is the mechanical shovel artist,Ian. He wields that tool with the deftness of a surgeon.
I seem to recall the team saying how good he was/is at it.
Yayyyy... my little boys always looked out for Ian on the TT programs..... they were JCB crazy.....
He's a hero no one speaks of :(
Late to the comments on this, but there’s an American Time Team where he peels a banana. I’m not making this up.
@@basstrammel1322"Unsung" is the word.
Mick was an excellent teacher: listen how patiently he explains to the new girl what the various problems with her timeline summary is.
She was supposed to be an archeological addition, educated, but brought in for her looks. Ugggh no dirt on her unlike Carenza, Helen & Jackie. Her addition pissed Mick off so much that he refused to return with her the next season. He did not respect her and it caused Time Team to end. So sad. Another female was not so necessary. Besides she is not lovely she is pretty but huge. Larger than most men on T.T.
@@Go-Dawgs , I also liked Raksha's sweet, toothy grin and her excitement. To this new girl's credit, I've read that she actually realised she was only there to 'enhance' the scripted, inane phrases she was permitted to speak and worked out her contract and left.
@@Go-Dawgs Mick was also upset that they fired half the archeological team without even talking to him, wanted to resemble what Countryfile had become, in his words, "that (Countryfile) is a programme which went from being a programme presented by farmers and people who knew about the countryside to one in which there is only one farmer and is full of cliche-ridden crap."
He also state that there were complaints about the ratings but the show never had consistent marketing nor a consistent time slot. Mary-Ann Ochota seems to have been more of a final straw, as opposed to the beginning of the end.
I think Mick saw what the real draw for the show was giving an easy and understandable access to archeology and the experts involved. Not giving us a second (and unneeded) host nor dumbing things down. That it was canceled a season after Mick left makes me think Taylor had zero clue as to what made the show a success. That's why he tried to do those changes and didn't even bother to get input from that actual experts and professionals involved.
I have nothing against Ochota, but more often than not she seems like a square peg in a round hole. I'm sure she did just fine in the other shows she did.
Ian is the unsung hero of these shows. Surgical skill with that monster digger
Oh, I did not know he passed! Love these programs! He will be missed!
I've been watching Time Team at 240p....this 480 resolution is a revelation. I'll have to start over. :)
Damn! Why didn't you mention that sooner. Amazing difference watching it at 480 resolution! Thanks, fredy!!
I love this stuff, wish it was on TV and still going
+Brenden Couch With smart casting choices this show could go on forever.
@@barnabyaprobert5159 :. Glad to know that the program returns in spring 2022. Viewers and patrons have come through to make this possible. Unfortunately, some have past and others have moved on to different and better suited for them. The new people will make the founders proud!
I wonder if Matt would like to adopt a 70yo American grandma. Lovely boy
Matt a savage you couldn't handle It trust me. Dude can party
Thanks so much for posting.
Being 30% Scottish, 29% English, 28% Irish and 6% Welsh, I really feel a tie with TT’s work.
RIP Mick! I didn't know! As for most of the rest of the comments here: Inane! I've loved this show since I first started watching around 2002 or so, I think. Always have been interested in archaeology, but never had the chance to pursue that dream.
P.S. Mick and Phil (and his hat) have always been my favorites! Tony's only a host; who cares? I've always kinda put up with him. :-)
Tony is also the link between the professionals and people like me, because he asks the exact questions I'd like to ask.
T.T. to the rescue~ great episode. A newfound scheduled site of fascinating history shared and preserved.
love time team thanks so much for sharing
Cur, I missed watching this despite my 2 yr binging on everything Time Team! too cool march '22.
Great series! Thanks for putting them on UA-cam!!
British tv is so much better than tv in the US. Brits get Time Team, the US is stuck with the mindboggling stupidity of Snooki and JWow.
***** or American Pickers...
So true. American tv is embarrassing.
***** I haven't watched TV in a decade and even I know those two people haven't been current in about five years
Don't forget Duck Dumbasses and The Used To Be The history Channel. Canada has some good shows though.
The remains of the building are here: 53°10’33”N 1°05’51”W
Aw, lighten up on Tony. He's a damn fine ACTOR and he's ACTING as the antagonist in some of these shows in order to punch it up a bit. Sometimes he has to piss people off to get the effect he needs for the show.
+Jim Dille Having just gone through every episode in sequence I can see a major change in Sir Tony's behavior in this season. Much more (as Mick lamented) "pratting about."
I suspect that he was goaded by the Ch4 idiots to be more adversarial with Phil and the rest.
Stannous Flouride
Wow! I've seen most of them, but not in sequence!
I think there was a lot of tension with Mary-Ann coming along too. She didn't have 2 brain cells to rub together and the rest of the crew had to make allowances.
I've added the geographic coordinates for every site and starting in the 18th season added the post production reports (and plan on going back and adding those from the beginning too).
Stannous Flouride
LOL! You've got it bad! The show - Phil, actually - inspired me to try my hand at flint-knapping, but not with much success. Must be the hat ...
I had a neighbor in Austin, TX back in 1974 who taught anthro at UT and tried to teach me.
I was young and impatient. I got plenty of sharp edges... by accident.
I absolutely can’t wait until I have the chance to use the expression “early days yet”. 😂😂
Stone the crows for me 😊
I could listen to those accents all day XD
So fantastic! I think this is one of my favorites ❤️
46:40 "youve been a real misery" 😂 l love European insults!
I think this is the first episode when I realized that people's loathing of Mark isn't even bothered to hide it anymore. They just roll with it out loud
During the English civil war ( 1642, 1660 ). A lot of the old castles were destroyed or made ruins so they could not be used as strongholds.
I just learned how to pronounce 'desultory.' In my defense, I've never heard or had to use it in a sentence, though I've read it many times while reading.
Legend says the poacher expert is still out there poaching.
Ahhhhhh hahaha yadayadayada!! Lol Tony you are too funny!
Where is the palace? I see a ditch and a lot of dirt
I am not Neil , I really dig your show . congratulations from Ontario Canada
Nice ending with the property owner but still doesn't compare with Paintpot !
Correct. Paintpot is a cat legend who will live on forever.
fascinating how much Phil loves the word "probably"! LOL sounds like most scientists of America!
This is my favorite Time Team show yet!!
... with Mary Ann and Alex? lol have you seen the previous 15,000 shows????
Years of pilfering,(gardens/homes) no wonder there's no building left.
can understand the recycle.
Archaeologists hate recycling, there's little for them to find.
I'd be curious what a plant specialist could add to your investigations. Where there were people, they brought or encouraged/domesticated certain plants. It's possible they could even find plant traces in masonry crevices.
Where I live we're told that lilac, not being native, is a sign of human occupation. It's known as a "foundation planting." It was planted around outhouses to help cover any smell, near windows to allow for freshening the house when in bloom, and sometimes planted over miscarried babies, and newborns who had died. Interesting stuff.
Fascinated by what you do. Thanks for putting it out there ; )
I appreciate your enthusiasm, but this episode is over 10 years old. Mick died in 2013. I don't believe the show still exists.
@@gasfiltered Sadly it is over but it's legacy is *DigVentures.*
A few episodes they did have people on to see what types of plants, crops & woods were around by sifting to find seeds & pollen
Alex is no land whisperer, is he. i miss Stewart
He is allowed to be what the producers allow him to be.
Hard to replace Stuart, but Alex is a good addition. He has the passion, he just brings a different perspective.
Not that thrilled with Mary Ann though. 😀 Much prefer Helen.
His only problem was that he had some huge boots to fill. They might have hired someone with a decade more of experience - or just kept Stewart.
21:44 RIP field marker
Was here Dec 2019
Phill Harding rules!
11:35 Hey! It's Alex from the Farm series!!
Yes! And a real cutie!
...sadly
Good Hist lessons here.love this program & humor.the King/Lords would have your nose split for harvesting firewood.that(wood limit) was mentioned in the movie BECKET.
alison webster you couldn't cut timber, but could take fallen branches and trees.
That was such a small deer! Ugh!
Roe deer...
Great to see the sexiest of all the historians here, Alex Langlands♥️
I'm a Peter Ginn fan myself...lol.
...yes, good to see the man who helped destroy Time Team
Who else immediately thought: garden folly?
If the alignment was off a bit it could be that magnetic north (currently in northern Canada) has changed a bit, perhaps some dating is possible if there are records indicating changes. After all, long voyages would end in the wrong place if true North had changed.
Don't forget about using sextants & astrolabes.
Phil is my favorite
These buildings were heavily scavenged upon.
Looks like a good one , I my watch it twice
I'm glad they ended this when they did, it seemed to be getting like every other sensationalized history show on TV. I know the late Mick Aston wasn't happy with the direction of the show. The seem to have gotten rid of Stewart, John and Helen and replaced them with the lady in pink who adds nothing. Also wheres Victor? His illustrations where always a highlight.
M. William Keating Also, where's Francis Pryor?
I love that guy
M.W. Keating at least we still had phil
Totally agree, think she is supposed to be eye candy . . .
...you fine folks need to do some homework and read how the whole show unravelled with the intro of Alex and Mary Ann and Mick's reaction to it all
See.... Making me want to fly to England to join an Ach group
So they robbed everything but left the three standing walls?
For Gallen Gregory's benefit who thinks if we don't spell like he does people must be morons....
Etymology (ie where a word originates from)
From: Middle English hous, hus, from Old English hūs (“dwelling, shelter, house”), from Proto-Germanic *hūsą, of unknown origin. Cognate with Scots hoose.
Noun
hoose (plural hooses)
1.(Geordie and Scotland) house
King John died of dysentery after drinking local monks special brew, three days later. What a way to go.
Tony slapped Phil with calling his trench "Barren" and "Desultory." (An adjective
lacking a plan, purpose, or enthusiasm.)
Desultory seems to me to imply conscious intent, or lack thereof. I don't think rocks can have intent....
These guys rag each other all the time. It’s all part of the show.
39:40 I had to back up three times to hear what they were saying. I was tripping on the potato-rocks.
That woman at 5:00 *laughs in Brittish*
I had no idea Mick Aston died in 2013 :(
..where do we begin??
Tv is wierd. At 46:00 tony is talking to lady and walks away. But u can see here in background just standing there. He like ledt her in the middke of an empty field to just....stand there lol
Then he invites everyon3 for a burger and everyone's like😊yaaaay yaaaay while she's just still back there lol
Desultory,,,,,.....,.without plan,purpose or enthusiasm!
Did someone put the sod on top of the existing walls? Why??? Looks nice, some purpose?
They do that to help stabilize the ruin and protect it from freezing & thawing damage; I learned that from watching Time Team.
Episodes 12 and 13 are missing. Still coming soon?
Only made 12 episodes for season 19 along with 2 compilations.
+uw1955 I can't find episode 5 and 6 either.
jormot episodes 5, 6, 7 are on UA-cam now
Why would the chapel ever have been demolished unless it was part of a monastery that Henry VIII went after?
Those protestants have a lot to answer for dont they
Christian Patriot by not being used and desanctified it just became another building for taking stone from. The chapel here was only a chapel of ease and noy used at all times, only when the hunting lodge was in use. At all other times you would have to go the church in Clipstone (this location is in Kings Clipstone) or Edwinstowe (where legend has it that Robin and Marian married). It fell out of use when the hunting lodge fell out of use.
To whom it may concern, (individuals responsible for the screw up), I am confused! Why is it that every time you have a successful educational show, it gets ruined by some clown who thinks that boobs need to be added? No offense meant to Mary Ann, i am sure she is a fine and wonderful young lady, but what did she do for the show? To quote M.W. Keating who posted a yr ago, "They seem to have gotten rid of Stewart, John and Helen and replaced them with the lady in pink who adds nothing", and he is a absolutely correct! I Love England, (being of English ancestry I would right?) and this show was fantastic. Here in the states we do not have the 1000 yrs of archaeology to uncover, study and be wowed by. Also, like so many of the fans of this show, I am saddened by Mick's death, It really was like losing a dear friend. Can't you bring this show back and focus on the archaeology and teaching like you did before when the show was in its first 12 yrs or so? That way all of us that watched and supported and was educated by it can be apart of giving a Legacy to a great Archaeologist. I watch and re watch these episodes and I learn things every time. I truly cannot think of a better educational show for anyone even slightly interested in Archaeology than this show. I have ordered books authored by Archaeologists featured on this show simply because I cant get enough of it, and I know that I am not the only one who feels this way. So hey, come on, the air ways are filled with boobs, sex and stupid sitcoms, please, give back to those of us who thrive on this type of show, preferable THIS SHOW! Trust me, Mick would smile! Thank you for reading. Please fee free to comment!
Ohh my goodness, I failed to mention Francis Pryor. I apologize, he was a fantastic individual just like the rest. If you read this comment above Francis, please accept my apology. I didn't mean to forget any of you all.
Joseph Heatherly - Ms. Ochota, unlike some on the show, actually did work in a relevant field: anthropology (Emmanuel college, Cambridge). She was on the show one season (No. 19, 2002). Your public fetishising of her chest does nothing but bring shame to your heritage.
He said the Girl brought nothing to the show, that's what he said, he was right, i never watched these because of her and i'm just a normal Chap who likes history
It was a great show however please do not blame Mary-Ann Ochota. If you look her up in wikipedia you will see that she is a smart person but when you join a show just as with any job your abilites may not be used and your intelligence demoted to make others (and their egos) look more important. You see *some* of the males are quite good at pontificating their opinions .
Joseph Heatherly s
Mick Aston 8 years passed on
I love the way these archeologists find a fragment of broken pottery and it is the missing piece of evidence they needed, and from this 1inch square piece of pottery that is covered in mud, so it could be a stone, they can tell it came from a jug and instantly know the complete history of the area.
Or by looking at the radar printout, they know this was a two story building.
How do they do that?
"They found an ornate stone that obviously fell off the building". It doesn't seem too obvious to me.
David Edwards It's due little things called "education", "experience", and "expertise". These are the things that the incompetent among us try to sell as "worthless".
because building high walls back then meant building thick walls, building thick and high walls means building deep and thick foundations. to be 2 story it gotta be relatively high.
If you had half the education and experience they have, you'd see the same value in the finds.
36:38 Dutch army jacket
He wears it many, many episodes 👍
Dutch Army Jacket = cheap, durable surplus
Does Mick ever take his cap off?
Can anyone tell me why stewart left the show?
Alex does bring information he went out searching for, found, and worked, uncovered and found more info on. That new lady does nothing. She wrote a timeline someone else found & read out to her and she asks dumb questions just for the camera. I do not like her because she Never gets dirty while thinking she has good looks enough to bring. No, she is really a large lady, larger than most men on here. No wonder Mick said enough of this...keep her next season and do it without me. Such Respect for Mick, but his leaving ruined it. And whoever brought her in started the end.
I would be happy with a cow shed,
Now I can see why Mick left the show.
Medieval Cement blocks ?
So you guys wasted a bunch of time cause you couldn't be bothered to do some checking around first. Don't get me wrong, I love the show
Sadly all the poor changes in time team just ruined it for so many. We loved the original characters and the way it had always been. They should have left well alone.
For all the episodes I’ve watched I still can’t understand why just 3 three days why they do fantastic work but don’t carry out onthe history they touch on but don’t carry thru
It was because they had jobs so had to fit it in over a slightly long weekend. Also it adds dramatic effect
As said above, they all had day jobs at various universities, this was a weekend gig. Additionally, the crew was huge, over 70, so 3 days limits the enormous cost and allows for more episodes. There's also the PR factor; many times the crew would blaze in on a Thursday, doubling the population of whatever little village they were invading with trucks and diggers and a helicopter, emptying the pub of food and generally upending life. Not overstaying a welcome is important to run a show for 20+ years.
Kathy Long Thirdly, this is survey archaeology- that’s a thing. They were never intended to do the full-on, months-long excavation. That would be done by the county archaeology society, or E.H.
It comes down to time & money. They'd never be able to completely cover a site in a reasonable time. Some sites can take decades to get the whole story. Then the cost would be unpredictable, you never know what you might run into. They wanted to produce a weekly, one hour TV show, not two hours or more documentaries.
The show is basically like one of their one meter square test pits. It's down & dirty archeology, go in, get what you can & get out with a basic idea of what's there. This way, they can spread themselves wider & cover a lot more sites. Which is a more effective use of their resources.
37:53
"Phil?"
"YO."
XD
does anyone know if Phil plays classical guitar?
I think he must do, because he obviously doesn't do much digging with clean finger nails like that !!!
He does play guitar, but his life is digging. He works for Wessex Archeology, although as he is now 68, he may have retired. If you watch the whole series, you will see him as one of the hardest working members of the team, through rain and mud and even diving. Truly amazing.
What accent does Phil have? I mean what part of Great Britain is he from?
he is from Wiltshire
Dumbing down episode of Time Team. The producer cut his own throat - sad. RIP Mick.
+Valentine Valentine It wasn't Tim Taylor, the producer. It was the bean-counters at Channel 4 who tried to 'liven up' the show.
考古学は魅力的です、掘るのはひどいでしょう
So, the descendants of those pesky peasants and rabble robbed John’s little palace for their garden walls and their drainage ditches...
I love a good hunting lodge.
Bring back Helen!
if tony had been around in king johns day he would have been the sheriff of nottingham and phil would have been little john ie john little who apparently was real
I believe john little is buried in papplewick a few miles south of that site fyi.
Tony learned a new word and Marianne ruins another episode.
They extrapolate an awful lot from very little
Where the Sam Hill is Stewart?????
Julie Chi the Ch 4 morons axed him, Helen, and Victor.
Not so desultory after all.
King John was not good man,
He had his little ways,
And sometimes no one spoke to him
For days and days and days....
IT'S NOT A FUCKING PALACE, TONY!!!!!!!
The producers let go of very well educated people, Dr. Helen & Stuart, who provided a lot of info & insight.. Apparently the executives were anxious about something. I'm glad Professor Mick resigned afterwards, standing his ground for what is right.
Tony is depressed. He needs more beer!
Vince White alcohol is actually a depressant. You may feel cheerful while actually drunk, but after it wears off it leaves the depressant effects behind.
...he has to work with Mary Ann and Alex so....
Forget desultory. I'll give Mary Ann some points for using the word mardy:
wordhistories.net/2017/09/06/origin-of-mardy/
Actually both Alex and Mary have respectible education and were not that terrible, its just a shame how short sided the producers were, as far as I have found on net that rating decline was because someone in charge wasnt interested and simply slowly drove the show out of the table. Sad really, but as far as I can see the core team is still going strong with impressive careers so its not because of them. I see the old team as good scolars and trailblazers really
@@birnamagnusdottir5189 Mary Ann has a degree in Anthropology, and Alex is an experimental archeologist, look for some of his other shows aka the Farm series
I have been and Im quite impressed
Plus I watched the whole victorian farm and medieval castle secrets
@@birnamagnusdottir5189 I love Alex, Peter and Ruth they make a good team.
Why ware a hard hat in an open field?
Boyd Wood safety first
@@destinationmobileone5476 when they sodded the sports field at my kids school they were all wearing hardhats and high vis protective gear on a day that was 37 degrees. Overkill
Because there were excavators working there.
H & S rules
Mary Ann wasn't hired for her archeological knowledge and skills, as evident in the tight, knit green top at 19:50. Wow, they sure dumb-downed the show with Mary Ann and Alex (who I really liked in the BBC various Farm series). I miss Helen, Stewart, John, and Victor. R.I.P., Mick and Robin.
or do I mean phill.???
I'm still trying to work out how she is beautiful, i live in Poland, every other girl here is more beautiful than her, and older Women
- Laugh about builders dropping their drinking cups on the site -
- Leave polystyrene cups and caution tape lying around, forcing the people who are actually excavating the site to add their litter to the archaeological record. -
Corylus Bluefox 😂🤣 you're hilarious. Nice
I would dearly like to know how much each cast member got paid for all their hard work, as well as the overall budget of each episode (which I've read was around 200k pounds per episode), and the overall worth of the whole franchise.
I mean, they ruined the formula of the show in the later seasons by getting rid of essential experts. Perhaps it was to save money and skimp on the budget?
I know, I know... crazy speculation on my part... but I can still fantasize... what if someone with the money and a love of history had stepped in and bought the series completely from Wildfire or whoever owned it at the time, and stuck with the original formula?
Just pure daydreaming on my part to be sure.... but worth thinking about. I get the impression that Mick was getting paid a pittance, (as well as most of the others) and they were doing it just for the sheer love of preserving English history and trying to reach out to a younger generation of British kids.
My heart really goes out to the heroes of Archaeology. God Bless 'Em. They got my love and respect to the end.
+APIEngineering You probably noted, as I did, little things like the crew having to wear hardhats on certain sites but not others (and the fact that Phil's never seems to fit).
I've noticed as I've gone through and annotated every episode with the geo. coordinates, how well they restore the sites.
Who does that? How much did it cost? What percentage of their budget was earmarked for it?
Inquiring minds want to know!
Mick Aston said he never maid much money but he loved educating people. That was his motivation for sticking with it as long as possible. I suspect the other archaeologist stuck with it also not for the money but for the love of their trade and to make a name for themselves, which would certainly help them furthering their careers.
Sir Anthony is such a pain and naysayer. The professional archeologists like Phil and Matt dig and explain what the trenches are showing, but the amateur archaeologist Tony shows truly why he will never be anything more than an amateur. Professionals know that not every dig is going to produce glorious finds. Phil has shown beautiful cut stones that come from a wonderful building that has been demolished with walls rubbed out. In past times, when they tore down stone structures, the large and decorative stones were removed and used in other structures which are possibly walls/foundations in today's homes. Tony shows disrespect as he just drops down into working trenches which moved evidence in the trenches. Glad in 2022 that Tony will not be part of the program.
A silly comment. Tony’s role in the show was to be a kind of court jester, playfully antagonizing the archaeologists in order to make the information accessible to viewers. Your media literacy needs some work.
When I heard that Channel 4 had cancelled Time Team, one of my all time favourite shows, I was horrified, even when Mick Aston had announced he had quit the show I still thought it a terrible decision. Having watched this episode though I have completely reversed that opinion. This episode is just dreadful, the archaeology content is minimal, the two new presenters in particular are awful and totally detract from the show. Why did he spend all that time hacking plaster off that woman's wall? What was that ever going to achieve even if it was a medieval wall (which I still think was questionable)? Mick, Tony and even Phil seemed deflated and even disinterested throughout. Very poor.
I don't think the new people every really had a chance to "fit in" to the team. After Robin died, they brought in Sam Houston, but I think they wanted more than just history, so he started doing performance art as well. I think that may have detracted; at least it did for me. Loved what he brought up to that point in each episode. Then they lost Stewart Ainsworth, and I don't think that Alex Langsworth ever really fulfilled that role well. I also think that they totally underutilized Stewart's skillset. How many times when on the brink of archaeology failure did Stewart save the day? Maybe they did that for dramatic effect?
What is with the obsession regarding Robin Hood? It is known that no such person existed, and neither did Loxley. Rather, it is believed he was a villain from Wetherby, Yorkshire, or some such place, for whom there is a record to purchase chains, etc., to keep him in custody. His name was Robert Hood.
Wotdermatter Lack of evidence is not the same as evidence of lack. There is no proof he existed, just theory, but you can't prove a negative, so it cannot be known he didn't exist. The is no concrete evidence that a lot of historical 'figures' existed, just lots of cenjecture (for example King Arthur) but that doesn't detract from their popularity, similarly Robin Hood.
Ian B
Such a good reply! Sometimes stories and legend have partial basis in fact or distorted history, and people are interested in piecing together where folklore comes from. There is nothing wrong with that, as long as people are willing to accept that things might not be as their preconceptions have led them to think.
1st. Robin is used to this day as a nick name for Robert. 2. Loxley is actually Lockesly, which was a town in England and when you check further, Robin Hood was called Robert De Lockesly, which simply means Robert of Lockesly. There is in existence a court record from 1245 showing where 1 Robert De Lockesly appeared before the court. There is reason to believe that Hood came from Robehod. This was a title that was given to someone who was declared Outlaw.
Actually, Tony Robinson did a documentary on Robin Hood, and he there is enough evidence to suggest that he did exist.
John Burnett I saw the show but as far as I remember the name Robert not Robin was the name used. There is no historical record of Robin Hood regardless of whether people twist the facts and are nicknames or alternative names such as Jack for John, etc. I have checked the names out using historical records and that is how I know. When in the Royal Navy, I was stationed at Wetherby and checked there. That is how I came to find Robert not Robin and he never was at Nottingham.
...oh, the new people are on this one.... ugh... 19:11 Mick trying to make it work but, the end of the show loomed on the horizon