Time Team S18-E10 Search for the Domesday Mill (Buck Mill, Somerset)
Вставка
- Опубліковано 17 бер 2013
- When Stephen and Stephanie Fry bought a few acres of prime Somerset pasture to graze their horses, they inadvertently also bought the remains of Buck Mill, an 18th-century water mill.
But as Stephanie began to look into its history, she realised that there may have been a flour mill on the site since Domesday! So she called in Tony Robinson and his sceptical team of archaeologists to help her unravel the mystery of their accidental mill.
For Professor Mick Aston the prospect was too good to turn down. As the diggers get to work uncovering the whole of the 18th-century mill, Mick takes off into the landscape to look for clues form earlier centuries. He finds more than he bargained for: the whole area was awash with the tell-tale mill streams needed to power grind stones.
As the three days progress, the dig throws up constant reminders of the importance of wheat and bread to the medieval population, and of how rich millers could become. The only spanner in the works for this perfect industrial dig is the surprise discovery of an Anglo Saxon comb...
Mick had such a pleasant voice, custom made for teaching.
I don’t care if they find something or not, I’m always amused, and always learn so much. Thanks to all.
finding nothing means something
The broken casting found by min. 6 is the plate from a small upright piano ~1860. That shows a little extra money in the household.
I mean it was literally a matter of life sustaining food. No surprise they had disposable income
"Everyone has gone to lunch except Phil, who is..a bit of a nutcase"... HAHAHA I LOVE THIS SHOW!! So lighthearted, yet serious!
One "mill" joke after another! Glorious! Nothing run of the mill about this lot!
Trowels in the ground, butts in the air!
Faye and Helen > Marry-Ann. Just my 2 medieval coins worth. These shows are great.
Another new thing I learned : flour is combustible!!!!
🤤💥
There have been many grain elevator (storage) explosions around the world. Google it and you will be amazed at the explosive power of flour!
Very, very, very combustible. Don’t try at home.
many tipe of dust mixed whit air can be very explosive, if you make a cloud of flour can make explosion(fireball) but if is on the ground no problem becose don't have the oxigen inside,
the fine dust of wood make big fireball, is used in many scene in the acion film..
Saw dust at its finest is as combustible as flour!
@@berthiltanke8377
It's rather similar in chemical composition.
i love the - bantering - between the team. knowing though very well that a lot is done just for - show - .and if they find something interesting on top of it, makes the owners of the dig happy.and si good for the - ratings - . even if the episode is from the - old- Time team, i still love them. They understood,Tony Robinson and his team, that one NEEDS to have a little bit a - show - for the viewers to look forward to the next episode.
I got an honest chuckle or lol at the mill jokes...
That dark cider looks wicked! .. . .
As a local I can tell you that the area is not known for good cider - what they're drinking looks like ditchwater. They'd get better stuff going a bit further south. At least they had cheese to offset what looks like crappy sour cider - slices of white onion would've helped too ;)
Tracy looking better than ever and Victors characterizations are a hoot! Mmmmm Cider....
BTW I found the location on google earth:
51*.03' 10.30"N
2* 21'49.67"W
Watch the show carefully towards the end and then compare the photo of the mill placement with Google earth.
Right on the mark.
51.052845, -2.363872 for those that can't be arsed with DMS
Mic has the best hat collection!
He only seems to own one sweater.
It's amazing rthe power of a couple of pints of "scrumpy"
I am still researching my surname for a new publication in Somerset/Dorset and was able to save this video to confirm the findings at the mill that once was that of John Benjafield. Good to be able to cite my sources, as it fits right into our family history descendancy chart.
They found more than one mill and I just wonder if at some time a handful of brothers lived there, working and singing in harmony......
Love these pgms.
Thanks for posting.
The "careless" smoker didn`t necessarily SMOKE when the pipe was broken lol, I`ve seen pipe smokers chew on their pipe for hours, just walking around with it unlit
Most of us develop a tactile oral fixation. I replaced cigarettes with licorice sticks lol
@@joshschneider9766 Indeed. Lol.
For me it's Tootsie Pops.
Not a bad choice either lol
"Mister Misery" LOL
Yep, he is an annoying yapper isn’t he?
Its an industrial building - over its life it would be constantly being upgraded and changed. You'll always have multiple phases. Either that or it's ritual....
K1W1fly “either that or it’s ritual” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂soooooo true
@@lauravalancy2521 we can always make a ditch...
Well at least they didn't come up with a religious significance for the mill! I don't know about English millers, but American mills usually had more than one mill on the same site. It was not at all uncommon to have an overshot wheel running a grist mill, and a lower tub mill or undershot wheel running a saw mill in a small shed, and maybe a third small wheel running a carding mill for the wool. Perhaps rather than three periods of mills, what they've got is one miller running three mills, which would explain his affluence, although millers usually were affluent.
userunavailable3095 yeah, a little early in period for sawmills, and in england, grist mills weren't a thing, just milling for flour really
by the time sawmills became prevalent in the UK, they were running off steam or water turbines, not wheels
kingswoodkid1985 A grist mill is a flour mill.
ah, interesting, i'd always thought it was more like a crack mill, for just breaking grains for animal feed
kingswoodkid1985 I live in Southern Indiana and there are two operating old grist mills near me. Beck's Mill and Spring Mill, but while they still have all their machinery the only thing they still grind is corn meal for corn bread although Spring Mill does still also have a sawmill as well they operate occasionally. Beck's Mill has an all metal overshot wheel and a pipe fed turbine. Spring mill has a long flume from a cave to a large wood overshot wheel with a small stream to a small metal undershot wheel.
Rebel9668 I've been to both, and they are beautiful mills. They are precisely what I had in mind when I wrote that comment.
Lots of millers where paid in grain and used the surplus grain for distilling, maybe his extra cash came from selling whisky?
If the area wasn't a strong agricultural area how close was it to the wool industry? You might be looking at a fulling mill
Great graphic at 42:32
Norman Mill was in the pub the whole time.
I wonder if Stewart’s instinct was to call the leat a goyt (or goit). I grew up near a mill that had a waterwheel, and the water was delivered to the wheel by a goyt. A weir had been built across the river, creating a shallow pond, and some of the water was then diverted into the goyt. I always thought goyt was a Yorkshire word.
Every episode I wonder who it is who fills in all those trenches after their 3 days are up, and just how long THAT takes.
i think they backfill themselves and have contracted landscapers/ gardeners to fix the rest
A LOT faster than the dig for sure..
LOL.
For important sites other teams may take over to better document .
They talk about doing their own documenting (and they’d have to legally and as self-respecting archeologists) they also talk about doing the backfilling, too. They might give away the fancy landscaping but that’s likely it 🤣
When he takes measurements at 23:30 he says old money, new money,? Never heard that before
Old money refers to feet, and new money refers to meters. The British changed monetary systems as part of their change to metric measurements.
I want to be Stewart when I grow up.
I love Phil. He's right out of David Copperfield.
Whoever put the comb in there should be smacked!
It wouldn't surprise me if it was one of the crew...knowing how Tony goes jelly-legged over anything being Anglo-Saxon...!
absolutely loving this .... tho it's a while a go 😥
what was
Dedicated!
I dig Tracey.
there is evidence that water-powered grinding had been practiced in Greece and Rome from around the 1st or 2nd century BC but in large industrial complexes by 2nd CE so it should be of no surprise to find evidence of them in use in British Islands from the sometime in the Roman era.
About the 'wealth' of the miller, maybe instead of a local miller who ground locally he would buy grains from elsewhere then ground it and bagged it to be sold to distributors. That would mean that he would have done quite a bit of business and got lots of money. Maybe he owned other land growing the grains which he then ground and sold giving a good bit of profit.
I am a Benjafield,&all Benjafields are related, although I haven't yet looked at this branch.It has always been a wealthy(myself excluded) farming family&originated in Gillingham Dorset with the Norman,"DeBenge",which soon became Anglicised after some event which took place in a field there(documented in a local history book,twelfth century I think).The main core of the family remained farmers in Somerset&Dorset,&I would be amazed if this"John"(one of many!)was only a miller,he would have owned a considerable amount of land.For anyone wishing to establish more,they could check the Methodist Church records,because it was a strict Methodist family which often gave money to establish church ornamention&buildings,&as such is mentioned in local history books.
Are these in a different playlist: according to imdb there should be an episode 11, but episodes 12 and 13 are a different topic/format (which is why am assuming the last two were not included on this list)?
According to Wikipedia this was the last episode of series 18. the last two series have 13 episodes each.
'I don't go to tea shops'-----He said you go to posh restaurants ,TR.
thats an odd hat for Mick
why is all these videos in 240p??
Because these are airshots.
Ugh. Look at that yellow clay they're digging through to find the millrace. (leet? leat?) No wonder it's not good land for growing crops.
*_Leet._*
Perhaps they should employ a ground penetrating radar specalist.
Cat Man, John & geophys get a radar on wheels sometime around this episode
Poor Mick looks ill in this one.
Give Mick and Stewart credit: Pryor would have just told us the other two mills are there, without the need for evidence.
Did Mick wear those stripes so people could see where he is better???
He traditionally wears rainbow stripes over 18 years. Gloves, hats, sweaters, etc.. It's "his thing".
The story on the colorful sweaters/jumpers is that, in the beginning, the director told him that what he was wearing wasn't colorful enough, so he showed up in the multi-stripe creation which became his trademark. He has worn variations of this sweater over the years, which Tony said his "groupies" knitted for him :o)
Did I miss something what is the whole doomsday thing?
The mystery to me is why they don't explain this...
Domesday ("doomsday") is a reference to the Domesday Book survey. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesday_Book
twstdelf
Thanks I was wondering if I would find out
its a list of property and its value, who owns it so they could collect taxes. i think.
Those women jumping into the excavation while the machine is still pulling dirt away and that bucket is soo close! 😬😵. Wanted someone to haul them out of there and shake some sense into them. Waiting 30 seconds until the machine was well away wouldn't have been too delaying in their work!
What is the Doomsday Book? Can anyone explain? Thanks in advance and greetings from Brazil
It was a massive census by the Normans after they invaded England in 1066. William the conqueror wanted to know what he was becoming king of, so he collected information of who owned what and where, probably to tax them. But it was thorough and gives a good snapshot of how things were in the 11th century. That’s what I remember from History class anyway.
they never show their blisters or the diggers
Can some one enlighten me about their use of the term "Corn" are they referring to Maze or other cereal grains?
+Christopher Bloom
Brits have used the word Corn to refer to cereal grains long before the introduction of Maize to Europe. When they say corn, and it's before they had Maize, they mean wheat, barley or oats.
Thank you in the US we tend to use Corn when referring to Maze.
+Christopher Bloom Not to nitpick but it's spelled maize unless it's a puzzling path in a field.
Sorry.
It's okay, I'm just homophonicphobic.
only 10 episodes this season. weird.
Are you 'avin a laugh? Is he 'avin a laugh? According to IMDB there should be an episode 11… Episodes 12 and 13 break from the mould by the looks of it. I'm hoping to find them on these playlists.
the BBC needs to reboot this show maybe sell it to Amazon and do a week instead of 3 days
It's not a BBC show.
@@functio1 You forgot to say that it was _very_ expensive. Incidentally I happen to know that in some countries it _was_ shown by the *BBC* though here (in the *UK* where I am) it was shown by *C4.*
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 despite where it was broadcast, it was produced by c4. It's a not a bbc show.
I haven't read through all of the comments yet but am I the first person to ask why was that old mill was demolished in the '60s in the first place? To make way for what? There's nothing there! Was it so decrepit and worthless that nobody spoke up for it? Nobody documented and photographed it in detail before it's demolition? This episode should never have been made otherwise.
Why is it pronounced Doomsday, but spelled Domesday?
They can see from a tiny fragment of a pot in what century it was made, but they cant tell what a massive piece of steel was used for... Weird folk those archaeologists
Steel is too modern. 😉
Mick🌈sweater ✔️
Phil seems really edgy and cranky in this episode.
Marnie Sweet I guess he's only human after all. That's the "trouble" with people who seem to be upbeat or cheery all the time, soon as they're not, they look like they have a huge gray cloud over them. I work with people like that, and it's a bit alarming when they aren't bouncing around.
Phil has a bad back. He could have been having trouble with it during this episode.
nice show but 3 days are way to short to do a good episode
Those involved were/are full-time archæologists who did this show mostly for love - they weren't paid much.
Phil "this used to be a forrest, you couldn't grow cereals (what would have been called 'corns' back then) I don't see why there's a mill here!?" ugh... who said it was a flour mill? Could have been a saw mill.
I'm irritated that they just completely overlook that the initial configuration (and how the miller seemed to be so well off for a corn grinder) was that he had made a boat load of money off sawing timber.
Then what would be the purpose of a milling wheel, which they found?
@@nit1pearl2 are you seriously this stupid or is this a pathetic attempt at trolling? They didn't find a 'milling wheel' they found a water wheel. All the water wheel does is convert the kinetic energy of falling water into rotary motion to perform work. Whatever it's turning on the other end of the axle is irrelevant. Even had they found grist stones, that wouldn't preclude the original function of the mill from having been a sawmill.
@@maxdecphoenix Perhaps you should watch this segment again my friend. They did find part of the milling wheel after locating the water wheel.
@@nit1pearl2 and as I already said, that wouldn't mean the original purpose of the mill wasn't sawing.
@@maxdecphoenix I believe the show stated that the mill was dated from the 16th century at earliest. This area was already de-forested much earlier. As early as 1000 ad. The area was made into farmland by Saxon Lords. According to history.
I shall cease to argue to point as pointless. You cannot dig waterways through timbered land anyway.
Does Stewart ever find anything?
+Bryon Lape I think Stewart is very important. He's grown on me quite a bit. His work, while often derided by geo phys, often puts everything in a context.
Yeah, man, he's been the hero a couple of times...
Just fast forward through his parts. You won’t miss anything. The idea is relevant but he mostly gets it wrong.
T.J. Payeur Two out of over 200 ain’t bad.
TT is a team effort with each member using their skills and experience to unravel each sites history and find what remains there are. And all this with the pressure of only 3 days! For a greater appreciation of each persons abilities look at Dig Nation videos of lectures given by many of TT characters and see what they get right in their proper jobs. This was all arranged in honour of Mick Aston and includes many tributes to him.
Why is that woman wearing her western hat backwards?
I believe that is an Aussie hat.
Tony was especially annoying in this episode...
Why are these such terrible quality
because they were recorded off the TV. For official videos go to Time Team Classics where I think they post them as soon as BBC releases the rights to them.