This AP grail watch is disappointing - but amazing
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- Hands-on with the Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Jumbo Extra-Thin 15202ST
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15202st, 15400,
Owning an AP Royal Oak is like dating a pretty girl with a few personality issues. In the presence of beauty some men are just willing to forgive quirks and let downs.
Your analogy... Spot on!
Same guys who like changing their "grail"😂
Comparing an object you own to a person. Comes off as quite misogynistic.
Some people get metaphors George. Other's don't. Personally I could not care less what you consider misogynistic, or not. As long as you hide your wanna-be-identity behind Eric Arthur Blair's pseudonym on social media, your ill informed comment rings hollow and pretentious to me. NEXT!
@@robimacher4221 The metaphor doesn't work because owning a watch is nothing like being in an equal partnership. And from your tone, it seems you do care. Your comment is at best dumb and at worst, as I say, it betrays your disrespect for women.
You can easily set the date by moving the hour hand back to 10 and forward to 2 and back again, vs winding it around 24 hours.
I feel you! I tried on the AP RO when my best friend got it. I, too, was underwhelmed. I was completely won over by the VC Overseas and pulled the trigger as soon as I had it on my wrist. No to take anything away from the tapisserie dial on the AP, but the dial on the VC is faultless! The AP bracelet plays better with light, it grabs your eye from across a room, but the VC bracelet is an absolute monster! Supremely comfortable, exquisitely finished and with 2 extra features that trump the AP; not one, but 2 small extensions together equal to a half link, and a quick release to switch between again, not 1 but 2 alternative straps that come included with the watch as standard. A MUCH better purchase and one bought on the occasion of my son being born meaning he will get a VC 4500V as his birth year watch... one day
I’d love to grab a coffee when I’m in London next time
I have heard people say this about AP. They are so excited to own it and then they wear it and it feels so delicate. Almost like carrying around an egg all day.
That is one of the things about Rolex that I love, they seem so robust when you put them on.
HA Bulova Royal Oak based on the ETA 2892 has Quickset and runs COSC. the movement is thin enough.
Hi Adrian, it is so funny to see a video about this watch.. after having it for a year I decided to sell it because of the same reasons you just mentioned!
It is just darn beautiful.. but it doesn’t make any sense 😄 I got some backslash from the community after selling it.. but you have to experience it first hand imo!
Thank you so much for your insight - cheers ✌🏼
how much did u sell it for
It’s absolutely stunning and I would buy it if I ever had the chance to do so. It is effortlessly cool 😎
AP has already solved the issues that he complained about. They made a 41mm RO that has has balance bridge, quick set date, and second hand. Not to mention it has AP’s in house movement. It is also much cheaper that this 15202. People that buy the 15202 doesn’t care for all the “faults”, they want the watch that save the Swiss watch industry.
@@tonyfu2200 I absolutely agree. And, also, in my opinion all the finesse of the 15202 disappears with the advent of the 41mm models. The old Jumbo has the exact proportions that Gerald Genta envisioned for this watch in 1972.
New watch roll, perfect for... Oh no wait.
Absolute lad. Keep up the great content, it’s appreciated.
Haha. Thanks Rob. 👍🏻
I was in the same position, I tried the Nautilus and was not impressed. I tried a Royal Oak 15300, turned my wrist around and thought “ I’m so screwed!’’. It is my grail and I love it for being so gorgeous.
You are right, it doesn’t make sense but when I look at it, it’s my BIRTHDAY every day!
You love what you love! It’s a gorgeous watch no doubt but be careful because meeting your hero can often underwhelm. For me, my grail is the VC Overseas with blue dial. The one Bruce Williams bought. Who knows what I’ll feel if I have the opportunity to try one on or buy it?...
You must have ruffled some feathers over at the R&D department at AP, with this video review. They improved the specs you complained about. BRAVO! greetings from Miami.
Clever design. The crown is design like this to induce pain by winding ,so unlucky owner will never forget how expensive it is.
It might not be whether or not haute horology is for you, but rather, which haute horology piece you choose.
There’s a certain enjoyment you get looking at the hand finished movement and exterior; like staring at a piece of art at the Musée d’Orsay, This experience with haute horology takes the appreciation, by watch enthusiasts, of these micro-engineered beauties to the next level.
I chose the Vacheron Constantin Overseas. It has a quick set date, which is a must for me (The date on the AP would drive me mental).
Great shot of an exquisite looking timepiece. ☕️☕️👊👊
Adrian, once again your sincerity shines through your videos. God in you, mate.
Ive got a 15450, in fact we spoke about it once, and don’t get me wrong, it’s cool as hell. I enjoy owning it and wearing it, and it DOES have a quick set date, but... it’s both amazing and underwhelming all at once. It’s incredibly likely I’ll sell it and get a Lange 1 in the not so distant future.
Credit where credit's due, Gérald Genta is the probably the king of minimalistic watch designs for having designed the Royal Oak & Nautilus. The Royal Oak was inspired by traditional diving helmets & exposed screw heads, a simple, timeless classic for many years to come. What is sort of interesting on the other hand, is that one of the most recognized watches, & AP's for that matter, was designed by Gérald Genta & fitted with a JLC movement!
It was my grail watch. I lusted over it for many years. in 2015 I finally had the opportunity to buy one used from a grey market dealer. He was asking 20K euro for it. I tried it on, but was underwhelmed. The illusions I had about the watch crumbled to pieces then and there. I found it way too dainty and fragile on first wear, it had also picked up a few scratches by the previous owner. I heard it is a real scratch magnet, the movement is fragile too. Further more when it needs servicing, you are going to have to pay thousands for that. All things considered I decided to pass on the watch. Just recently looked on Chrono24 because I still like the overall design, to my shock the asking prices for the watch were 65K euro and up. Crazy.
I don't think I've ever agreed 100% with a review before, but this is spot on everywhere. Beautiful vid, too.
You could always do the Casio conversion, get a similar look for a little less money and it's really a sports watch.
Sincerely you are THE best! Great video! AP needs to gift you one based on the "remove the date" idea!
I have a 15202 and 26331and I think your last point is pretty much right. I’ve never missed the fact it doesn’t quick set, nor that the 26331 doesn’t have hacking. The nautilus 5711 didn’t until last year.
AP owned 40% of JLC until the mid 00’s and still have very close links. No one minds that AP builds the movements for Richard Mille or that’s how Rolex operated until 2006, I’m glad you got to try it, but you have to have a different mindset from tool watches. I wouldn’t even consider the 15202 a sports watch as it has no seconds function. Some hot hatchbacks will do 0-60mph quicker than a wraith, would you say it’s better? No.
Great review and just points in my opinion! Style over substance....BUT just look at it! So beautiful! It wears well. Suits you Adrian...
I'm going for iwc ingenieur and a GP laureauto. Thank you kindly for sharing.
Yeah both of those are great. There's something particularly cool about the Laureato. It's just one of those watches that's really well balanced.
I think the 37 would be the sweet spot for your wrist, the 39 as lovely as it is looks slightly oversized. I wear 40-42mm watches and anything below 38mm has always looked small on my wrist but having of tried the 37, it was the most perfect fit
If it were “gifted” to me, it would be the first watch d ever trade away.
Try the current generation Breguet Marine on a bracelet. I would love to hear your experience with it.
Good analogy. I don't ever have espressos, in fact I never drink coffee, it's too strong for me. As is the AP RO lol.
Wow I’m happy u reviewed an AP
This review of a watch that I will never never never be interested in buying actually raises some interesting points. The biggest one being is that you cant "spec chose" a watch. Thats never going to work. In the hifi world its like buying an amplifier without listening to it. It is crucial in watch buying independently of the price, to TRY ON THE WATCH. So many times I have scouted a watch for months, its like The Watch for the year and then seconds before paying for it I actually try it on, almost like an after thought. Then, oh. Its too big... Or, this will not go with anything I wear. Or, man thats heavy! Or, it feels kind of cheap. Or, does the color of my skin actually clash with the watch?!
Cool video Adrian. I understand what you're getting at. It's really expensive and really cool looking. I love the proportions and how thin it is. But that is a huge price, even at RRP, to have such low water resistance and an older movement. But I get it....I really like it too.
design wise i think this 15202st is the correct size at 39mm compared to its bigger brothers the 15400 (discontinued) and the 15500. I personally think it looks way better than the nautilus and the VC overseas. the 15202st is truly drop dead gorgeous. i just wished they update the movement to a more modern one. its still my ultimate grail watch.
Try out the 37mm in blue I think it’ll fit you nicer .
The blue dial on the AP is beautiful but compared to the overseas. Not even close overseas winds hands down in beauty
Nailed it on experiencing the Nautilus in real life, was expecting to be mind-blown but wasn't
Make a review of the Czapek Passage de Drake...the future of the „Trinity Grail Watch“! Integrated design, new stunning movement.
Will change your opinion on Haute Horlogerie...
2:29 Did you just say 'padastool'? Reminds me of IT Crowd :D
Man , thats so sad ....
When i got my dreamwatch ... i just got in watch heaven for a couple of months and now i always Smile when i see it ..
I try and try, but just can't get into the AP's.. for that price I could get a VC everest edition chronograph ( holy grail watch) or a Bvgari Octo. Still thinner
It won’t be your thing until you’re sophisticated enough in terms of watch collecting, sorry to say that. A watch on your wrist is not a daily tool anymore. So why movement performace matters?
I absolutely love the Royal Oak, but I learned a lot just now. Learned a lot of things I don't like about it. Bummer, but I still would rock the hell out of that thing if I could get my hands on one lol. oh and I felt dumb when you pointed out there was no seconds hand. How did I never notice that before. (face palm)
Theres no quickset date, but theres a way to quick forward the date by doing 0:10 then anticlkwise 10:45pm so on n so forth repeatedly, it still sucks, but lol thats the way it is for the watch.
That said, its still one of the most wanted steel watches right now, with nautilus n daytona. Haha
I don't see anything special in this watch, not a quick date? Try the Maurice Lacroix Aikon 39 mm automatic and 200 METERS it looks better than AP (my opinion). More enjoyable to have and much more affordable. Why nobody talks about ML? Nice and honest video 👍.
Maybe the 15500ST (Standard Non-Jumbo) would address some of these concerns?
Yeah I want to get hands on with the 15500st. Although AP aren’t likely to lend me on after this video.
@@BarkandJack Adrian, you will say that the 500st is GIGANTIC. :-) you will prefer the smaller one but with the te h of the 41mm but that is not out there...jumbo is a piece of history...we need to look at that as we were in 1972...or is does not make sense at all?
@@BarkandJack perhaps one of your subscribers would be so gracious. I know I would. That is if I had one 😭
Fix is easy. Remove the date or put quick date set, but either of those will change what 15202ST stands for - original design coupled with the heart beating inside all the way back from 1972.
When you wish for dial to change (removal of date) or movement to change (add quick date set), you essentially change everything 15202ST stands for.
This is “not” a watch that represents engineering marvels or achievements AP have made in centuries. This watch represents a “history” in its purest form.
The quick date set was already offered in Royal Oak back in 2005 in the form of 15300, then 15400 and now in 15500, so again, you’ve missed the point that it’s not AP who can’t do it. It’s AP who’re not doing it so you get the watch that doesn’t just represent aesthetics and timeless design, but movement that’s close to 50 years old, yet remains the thinnest full rotor movement and does the job (yes it does have anti-shock mechanism so I’m not sure why it’s not a sports movement).
What you have in your hands is “the” only watch in the world with original design, original looks, original size, original thickness, original material and very original movement even after close to 50 years of production run. And the last thing you’d want to put out is for that icon to change.
Thanks for the video!
There is one huge "downside" with RO Jumbo. It is a scratch magnet. I do not baby my watches and scratches are tolerable for other "sport" watches that are not all about finishing. For RO Jumbo, finishing of the octagon and the bracelet is what makes the watch sexy in flesh. And you don't wanna polish RO because overdoing will make the edges of the bezel blunt.
funny and very honest video! considering that 1972 the 5402 had a water resistance of 100m and was 2 mm thinner at the same time. and that's all just for the stupid open case back. all about the looks.
Thanks for sharing. No doubt it is a great looker. Love the 80's styling of it. Almost flawless, but not quite...The one thing that always baffled me: A watch that is designed to look like an antique lead divers helmet (words of Genta himself) yet isn't actually really waterproof...it makes 0 sense. Why?
It's like a Ferarri with a Honda civic engine....it looks the part, but actually is just a poser. It talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk.
With that said, a screwed down crown and some proper waterproofing would do wonders and catapult the Oak to a lonely first place. Without it....definitely not worth my money. But I still can appreciate the looks. Thanks again, enjoy it!
AP is all about that bracelet
I never quite understood why anyone would call the RO or the Nautilus "sports watches". They are so delicate that it's obvious that they are dress watches on a metal bracelet.
Glad you said all that. Now the RO is totally off the list.
Well I’m convinced. TIssot PRX quartz for $300 it is!
I've never felt the appeal of the Royal Oak , I would like to hold one in my hand once to see if I "get it" or not.
I guess this is a daily beater watch for the guys who are not just well off but are very rich indeed. Rolex seems the glass ceiling for a lot of well off people. The prices are going ever higher but they are still obtainable. Just. With AP and Patek you’re moving to another level of wealth altogether. So AP don’t have to give incredible value for money with this piece, the majority of the worthiness is in the brand name alone and that’s all in the mind of the wearer.
Great watch.....at retail. You can get a 15300 (the better watch) and a good 16528 for the same cost. No brainer going that route
I had exactly the same impression and my brother was upstet seing me even comparing his jumbo RO to my seamstress 300 M🤣
Informative. Thank you.
Looks great! Value for money, yes but is this one of the greatest movements you expect from one among the holy trinity? - No! Great video Adrian as usual.
-Nairinsights!
Interesting and perhaps unsurprising review. Sometimes the hype even among premium brands can be too much. I love the AP bracelets and dials on the Royal Oak. I am astonished the date is not quick set. My 1964 Seikomatic has day and date but the date is quick set (the day not so). The 40 hour power reserve is less than my Seiko movements which power my 2020 Samurai (check it out with its waffle dial similar to the Royal Oak) as well as several microbrands.
The story of the king with no clothes comes to mind. While some APs are gorgeous and technical marvels, this model is neither. It is a pretty watch but there are many pretty watches. For its price and especially the hyper inflated premiums it should be incredible, amazing, astonishing or any other superlative you care to mention. It's none of things. The fact you struggle to rave over it speaks volumes. If it didn't have AP on the dial you wouldn't give it a second glance.
Now, if you can get hold of the extra thin tourbillon then you should see a watch that makes you gasp! It doesn't have a date which as you say isn't necessary on a dress watch and it doesn't have a seconds hand; instead it has a lovely tourbillon circulating at 6 o'clock.
I think a Sub and Seamaster is a more practical watch. Once you pay 30k practically goes out the window anyways.
Why does a sport watch need a balance bridge? What's bad about a balance cog?
A balance bridge has two anchor points, which is far strong than the one anchor point that’s on the balance cock. The difference in reality is tiny, if a watch is hot hard enough to damage a balance cock, then it will probably damage a movement with a balance bridge, both another part might break.
For me it’s more to do with the fact that a watchmaker wouldn’t put a balance cock on a movement that’s been designed to withstand shock to a high degree. So if a movement has a cock, it isn’t going to be sporty.
@@BarkandJack ah I see, thank you very much for the answer!
If I was getting something crazy expensive like this, I'd go for something truly special and unique and designed like an FP Journe or Lange or even something from JLC.
Honestly, your Seamaster is a better and nicer watch than that AP. I guess I'm not an image guy which is probably why I like the Seamaster and the BlackBay 58 over a Rolex Submariner. The AP Royal Oak, the Patek Nautilus... they're just way over hyped and sought after by people chasing image in my opinion.
I laughed out loud at the watch roll, well done!
haha, thanks mate.
Great video, man. I assume the date is semi-quickset which is only bothersome half the month. I handled this APRO once and did not fiddle with the crown at all. However, with it on wrist, I came to similar conclusions. It did not feel rugged enough for even my sedentary life, it felt like jewelry or a chunky dress watch.
Maybe it's like school days, having a deep crush on "the" girl.
And then finding out she only has a 40 hour power reserve, tragic.
@@mrbacchus6127 I wouldn't mind a manual wind in that case...
@@DarthJabba504 or a minute repeater...wait I'm not sure that works
Honestly the AP and the nautilus are for me, over hyped. Price compared to specs - again for me its a symbol of power of acquisition rather than horological genius. Just me tho!
No doubt it’s overhyped. But when you hold that watch… man it becomes a little easier to understand that if you have that kind of dough, then it’s still “worth” it.
Let’s just hope we get rich enough that spending $50k on a watch isn’t a big deal.
A sports watch for 10s of thousands is an oxymoron, its a high end fashion item.
I would treat it as well as a dress watch.
That's jewelry.
You’re right.
Well everybody wants a sports watch that they will truthfully only wear as a dress watch.
Like buying a souped-up can do off-road hard core 4X4 that never leaves the burbs.
"Those feelings of being on a pedestal are gone after I feel you. You just don't feel substantial." is what I said to my wife after watching this watch video. apparently you're not allowed to compare an Audemars Piguet with your wife in 2021.
Now I'm living in the guest room.
Nice place. Enjoy your freedom.
Like "wife has got nice finishing but specs-wise..."
This demonstrates the importance of being able to try watches on before you lay out your dough. People speak of the watch world moving toward selling online, but that would take away this crucial part of the watch buying process; being able to try the thing on.
milineals dont care about that too much lol
a lot of places have returns ,so you are not wed to it. still a pain to return something purchased online though
Do you think they will have a Royal Oak in store ready for you to try on? You probably need to pay them full RRP even before the watch arrives! At least that's how it goes in Asia
What if the AD was a demo and experience shop who had the model range to view and try on, rather than being in charge of who can purchase and fictional waiting lists. If Rolex, AP etc had a system where you pay a sizeable deposit and your wait time was dictated by the manufacturer. Pay the AD a commission for looking after and delivering the watch. You would soon see the levels of customer service go through the roof!
@@jire9831 I had to laugh at your post. So true. I bought a Tesla Model 3 and 39mm Explorer before ever testing them out in real life. Both worked out beautifully, but it could have totally gone the other way.
Never meet your heroes... That's all i have to say about driving your childhood iconic cars, wearing most of the top tier production watches, playing the most wanted guitars... I'm glad you liked the AP.
Have played a lot of really cool guitars.
They are REALLY cool haha.
Comment is spot on.
Tissot PRX has a quick-set date, JS...
Haha - yes - I was just thinking the Tissot PRX with automatic movement would check a lot of boxes for me.
Apple Watches don't need any input from you to be 100% accurate, JS...
@@rousseau327 there's nothing wrong with smartwatch technology. If it gets people into the hobby, and brands like TAG Heuer and Frederique Constant are implementing smart capabily in some lines, H. Moser Swiss Alps watch is based on the aesthetic of the black mirrors on our wrists, and people even wearing one of each, a smartwatch or fitbit on one arm and a traditional piece on the other.
You have to be able to adapt or die as a brand. Look how many companies went bankrupt because Seiko brought out quartz movements. It was a quartz revolution for them - not a quartz crisis. Seiko uses a mix of mechanical and quartz in the spring drive movements that are super accurate and so smooth in the sweep second hands. If Citizen wants to try to blend the contemporary with the classic, it's certainly going to appeal to someone.
And the PRX being quartz kind of makes sense. It's a throwback to watches from an era where quartz watches, particularly their own Tissot Seastar PRX, but also higher end pieces like the Rolex Oysterquartz, were all the rage. It's a decent level of finishing, chops all of its own, at a price that real people can afford.
@@ZachyAbsynthe I think you missed the point of my comment. My point is, there's no point in comparing the features that a cheap PRX has versus a Royal Oak, because these two watches are catering to 2 completely different audiences. The Royal Oak buyer likely doesn't care or mind if there's a quickset date, or hacking seconds, or whether the movement is designed to absorb shock. It's a jewelry piece, art piece, whatever you want to call it, more-so than a functional one.
In fact, you don't even need to go that far up the price bracket to see this. The previous Speedmaster Moonwatch Pro did not hack. It's accuracy is crap compared to the standards that we're used to, whether it's COSC, METAS, Rolex's Superlative Chronometer, etc. But people love the watch, cause they just don't care about those things *in that particular watch*.
@@rousseau327 they need an iPhone though
I love the design but the specs make me not ever want to dish out that kind of cash even at retail. No quickset date and 50m water resistance...?
No quickset and 50m water resistance sound like low tier seiko 😳
And the big one being with a power reserve of only 40 h.
No screw down crown
Integrated bracelet
Poor water resistance
No second hand
No quick set
Low power reserve
Screwed case back
No full balance bridge
No in-house movement
Goofy hexagonal bezel screws
What a piece of shit.
@@astifcaulkinyeras dont forget the pricetag
Its a joke isnt it?
It's gorgeous, but when I tried one, I can't help but feel that it's half jewelry and half watch.
Yes it is. That’s the whole point.
That´s a good thing, right?
Aren’t all watches?
No, if you want jewellery by a Jacob &Co.....or if you're on a very tight budget......an Invicta!!!😁
@@GustapoGomez I think it is a little too flashy, though. Not so understated..
Literally laughed out loud at the watch roll bit... Still beautiful watch and roll.
Haha. Thanks Luke.
Yup loved it, very funny Adrian it was a great moment.
The fact that that watch doesn't have a quick set date function absolutely blows my mind.
It makes sense given everything else Adrian talked about in the video. This watch, and many like it, don't care about being functional.
@@rousseau327 fair point. Still ridiculous though!
@@oomsoutie14 it’s crazy yeah. my grail is a travel time aquanaut and that watch doesn’t even have hacking
They used the original 2121 movement from 1972. I suppose heritage has its price.
@@Kr0nicridah , it's laziness. "People will buy it anyway, so why bother?" - A.P.
So glad I watch this, just saved myself £26,000!
You mean £46,000. They're practically unavailable at MSRP
@@enriqueali Why are they so hard to get hold of? What about the standard 37mm or 41mm variants?
I had the opposite experience. Never liked the RO in photos, but was completely blown away by it in the steel. Impeccable finishing and proportions. It’s boldly industrial and elegant at the same time. Nothing comes close to its finishing or actual wrist presence, imho. Not even Grand Seiko or Vacheron.
Tissot Prx.
I do really like it. It might be boring but something like a Day Date would be available at retail, be more useful daily despite the precious metal than this is. It would be properly swimmable, make just as much of a statement (a discrete one in white gold). I think wearability would matter more than the horological significance of the AP, which is without doubt far superior.
The more I’m into watches, the more I think haute horology is not for me or perhaps maybe one day just one amazing dress watch. They’re just not an everyday wear type of watch. Unless you’re a gazillionaire of course. I’d rather wear a mid tier watch from JLC, Omega, Rolex etc and enjoy them than baby a 15202. This still ends up having to be your special occasion watch when I dunno something like a Lange Saxonia, or a Calatrava could be bought alongside a daily Seamaster or similar for the money a 15202 would cost.
Wow didn't know you were into watches Paul!
@@joshuabutler818 I’m into them far too much tbh!
@@TheRunningManZ haha that’s awesome dude, love your content ❤️
I think it is maybe a watch that is designed to be a status symbol. Doesn't have the technical specs to justify the price (and I've heard they don't keep great time) but it looks great and it's iconic so you can charge what you want. AS you said gazillionaires only need apply
Art and taste are so personal that while "I" dont get this watch, I cant fault anyone who does. For me, it passes entirely beyond stats and features into the world of fashion. And in that way its been appropriated as a social signifier in the same way other intentionally conspicuous goods have. More, "I can afford this." than "this is a great watch." And that's unfortunate.
What a brilliant video Adrian. Glad you enjoyed your time with it and created such wonderful content for watch lovers to enjoy.
Thanks for lending it to me Jonathan.
@@BarkandJack Can I borrow it next J dog?
@@BarkandJack next you should do a compare video with the 15500!
That leather roll scene was a winner.
Adrian, I must say, I hold your opinions in high regard. You explain everything so well but more than this, you give your honest personal opinions and back them up with detailed yet concise points which blend together to validate your position and overall assessment of the time piece(s). Your videos have improved tremendously over time, well done and thank you for providing the content you do, you do it so well mate you really should be proud of yourself.
Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. And I’m so glad you can see an improvement in the content. 👍🏻
you eventually realize watches are solely a way to flex either wealth or knowledge
I need a sweeping seconds hand for some reason
Nope not for me.
then go grand seiko
The case profile is just nuts... definitely different and pretty amazing engineering
I am just not a Huge Fan of the Royal oak...Not that it’s an ugly Watch, but I do like Datejusts, Seamasters and Explorers more 😅
Same here. I also feel the same way about Submariners. No idea why, I’ve just never found them attractive.
i feel like were telling people what they should like, calling watches like this a GRAIL watch. i agree with you, not a big fan and prefer my seamaster
Agreed, I prefer Rolex, Omega to AP and Patek. I don’t like the shape, no seconds hand and hate the bracelet. Same for Nautilus...
stop it lol
Being that you have now had some time with the AP and Patek, it would be great if one day you had some time with the Vacheron Constantin Overseas
For people saying this watch doesn't have a quick set date. It's actually integrated into the movement, where you turn past 2am, go back to 10pm and forward again to get the date to jump more quickly. The 16202st has the quick date set.
Better than nothing I guess
"Without sounding overly pretentious" -- When I was invited to Rolls Royce.
That was a damm good video, his Rolls Royce visit. Look it up.
Great vid and fun to watch you forget practicality when glancing at its beauty. Thats what a RO does :-D The 15202 is epic, but if your quirks are practicality, why not the 15300/15400/15500 instead/also..? Even more sporty/modern, sturdier movements... And no, the 41mm are not too big :-) Cheers
Well now you have to see if you can get hold of a VC overseas, great video again!
Thought you were gonna hit us with an espresso machine sponsorship
Keep in mind that the 15202 is something of a "throwback" model, meant to closely track the original 70s version. Take a look at the 15300, for example--same 39mm but with slightly more robust case and bracelet, screw down crown, balance bridge, seconds hand ... Still, agree with your overall feeling that there's room for improvement with this (and other) hyped and high-priced models. Great channel, always love to hear your enthusiastic take on things!
That redundant "AP" on the dial really bothers me. Same with "GS".
How is that any different than the Rolex coronet, Omega symbol, VC cross, Breitling "B" or wings, or JCL's "JL"? ....just to name a few
@@brucethemanlee Rolex/VC ones are pretty different considering they aren't straight-up acronyms/initials. Maybe Omega, but it's at least in Greek...
@@rohanes Yes your're right
@@rohanes vc is not initials?
@@yixunnnn I was referring to the cross...
great review. thinner watches to me wear far better. they look better. they give you that great counterplay between the hand and wrist and the instrument. hand and wrist not dominated by the watch. they are both interesting and complex. also, thinner watches tend to be far more comfortable on the wrist.
Well done. I'm a year into the watch hobby and I'm starting to realize how I'm prioritizing things like usability (quick date function, high power reserve, etc) way over brand name and sometimes over visual design. Thanks for the video!
Give me an Overseas any day.
The first time I ever held a Patek my reaction was, "huh." I admired the craftsmanship, but it felt flimsy and did nothing for me. I had the same realization that haute horology would never be for me, not that I could have ever afforded one in the first place, haha. I can honestly say that, without considering how much I could sell them for, I would keep my white OP39 over the Patek chronograph I handled if I were given the opportunity to make a straight trade.
When you wear this timepiece it comes alive and no video or picture can substitute for that. I've tried on my fair share of watches and this and an A Lange & Sohne are the two that make me smile.
Yes and Yes! About time for a 15202 video, my next pick! I love AP
Terrible watch
Never meet your heroes. Great video brother, can't wait to check out your watch rolls!