Thanks for this one guys. I've been an A swinger since the book first came out and met David when I attended his facility in Orlando. I said excitedly, "David I've read your book 3 times", to which he smiled and with characteristic Leadbetter deadpan humour said "That's more than I've read it." What a great coach he is. I like that he has a general framework that (for me) has proven effective, but doesn't try to force every golfer into a rigid mold. It's such a simple swing that I have the confidence, as Jodi mentioned, to be able to fix myself out on the course when things start going wrong.
David is the first to say that the A swing is not for everyone. Lydia seemed to be at her best with David in terms of the number of tournaments she won. Not my definition of "ruined".
What? She immediately started with Leadbetter after turning pro so there really isn't a way to compare Leadbetter with any other coaches. Leadbetter took a while to mess her up, the first 2 years were good since she is super talented. But the forced positions by the end of 2016 and 2017 ended with her fluid swing. Same that happened with Tiger and Foley.
I have been playing for nearly 30 years and have been down to a 4 handicap. But over the years I have been struggling with a pull and a pull hook so as I was not enjoying the game anymore I stopped. I bought The A swing book about two years ago when it first came out. Went out on the range and thought OMG this is not for me! around 3 weeks ago I saw something on UA-cam that struck a cord with me as I am one of these people that try study the golf swing. I have read lots of books particularly John Jacobs Practical Golf. In it he says that let the ball be your teacher so by seeing my straight pulls and pull hooks I realized that my clubface was aiming left as well as an out to in path which matched. With my pull hooks I was correcting to an inside path and a closed club face! Amateurs myself included suffer from our arms and bodies being out of sink and manipulating the club face with our hands. We also flip the club inside our hands and go back shallow which makes most of us come back too steep on the downswing. This causes 95% of us weekend warriors to slice and pull and wiff our way around leaving us in total frustration! OK long story short I had a light bulb moment when I reread the A swing as Leadbetter states that by going back steeper you will automatically come back shallower. This makes golf easier and a lot more fun. I used to blow hot and cold ..When my timing was on I could shoot under 80. But more often than not the next time was a lottery as I could then shoot anywhere between a 92 and 85! I was like a lot of people out there an anti Leadbetter proponent but after going to the range and working through the initial moves which will seem strange at first. I went out and shot a 72 and the next time a 78. I have never shot two consecutive rounds in the 70's so a total surprise. I am hitting the ball basically on a string most of the time with a little draw which I have never been able to do as well as at least two to three clubs longer and solid out of the middle of the club face. Please don't poo poo the A swing if you are battling for consistency like most of us give it a good go get the book..Commit to it for at least a good period of time. They say the definition of madness is "keep doing what you doing and you will keep getting what you getting" At least here one has a blue print and a direction. You may well just thank me in the long run:)
I purchased the book but have this dumb mentality of wanting instant gratification. You know take a pill and play perfect golf! You have given me reason to take pause and give this (what I consider to be a real solution) a better and more reasonable time to take effect. Thank you🙏
Been using this method for several weeks now and it has sorted - a club path that was too much from inside to out , width in whole swing, no flipping at impact, now with right hand under and assisted by trigger finger pressure point, Can swing to the left with chest - thanks all , appreciated.
@unplugged 92 Just look at the fundamentals of the A Swing - hinge straight up then completely rerouting on the transition? Sure, he has a huge following and but so does Kardashian haha.
You can start with wedges like a 56 degree, then 9, 8, 7, 6 iron. If you wanted one club, grab the 8, pick a target around 150 yards away and work on your alignment. Stand back 10 feet, pick a spot 1-2 feet in front of the ball and align it with your target. Walk up and at address, draw a imaginary line to that spot and align your feet parallel to it. Get an align stick too. Too many people get out the driver at the range and hack away. Practice more with an 8 iron.
I luuuuv Jodi. Awesome she happens to be this student. Btw, if it were a “Holistic” approach, there would have to be some discussion of mind-body connection, at least. Am I wrong? IMO, discussing tendencies and conscious process does not infer holistic processes.
Again I want to thank you guys. I have a big problem with balance in the swing. I always end up stepping forward with right foot after the follow through, can’t hold the pose after the shot. After watching this I thought I have the opposite problem she does. Started sitting back slightly and EVERYTHING feels better. Back swing feels better, can hold the follow through no problem. The whole swing feels smother and more natural. Wish I could afford a trip to UK and some lessons. Thanks again. Btw I’m 65yo and a novice. Goal is to break 100 consistently.
Hey guys do you have any advice, I'm currently trying to change my swing, I'm 45 & I'm not the most athletic guy I've had 5 years out & my swing has become much shorter in the backswing & I come slightly over the top & tend to have bad shots that go straight left or slice, I've watched you vlog about exaggerated wrist turn & steep backswing, I'd love to see something I could work on to help me build a longer more full swing again & rid me of that slice.
Hi Andy and Peers, again good stuff! If I use the drill (halve way back, then start the swing) my clubhead speed increase about 7 mph (Iron 6). Is there a way to adapt that speed in a full swing?
I think you guys have your next set of video series thanks to David. The cause and effect and fixes to why parts of your body hurts playing golf. I.E your elbow hurts, so you are doing this and this is how you fix it.
only just started watching your channel but the content is very good and informative. It amazes me the comments that are made by people of these type of forums regarding Leadbetter and his teaching methods, staggering.
Why delay the rotation of the forearms in the back swing? Surely the smoothest and simplest swing is a progressive rotation to the end of back swing, on plane.
Why? You wouldn't, necessarily. But if you have a habit of rotating too early, you're likely to go back too flat and then (probably) have that lift-and-over-the-top move. You'll run into yourself on the backswing. You can have too little rotation, or rotation at the wrong time, too. Just depends on player and habits.
Don’t wanna offend anyone, as leadbetter is probably a really nice guy and honestly wanna help player but you should rename the title into “How to destroy another great swing by David Leadbetter” Why... Easy... every good Ballstriker nowadays on the Tour has a clubface at the top in between parallel to the lead arm to facing nearly straight up. That’s what he showed what she had and referred it as shut. Thereafter he moved her into position he wants her to have and refers a clubface of 90 of the horizon (tip looking straight down to the earth) as square... luckily her natural instinct is fighting against as you can see in her swing... don’t tell me it is a feel... he is putting her in that position so she feels how it is supposed to be right... luckily more and more coaches in the world are really paying attention to what the best players in the world do... Leadbetter already destroyed Michelle Wie and Lydia Ko and i don’t wanna know how many more...
Superb example of how a very good player like Jodi Ewart Shadoff can be turned into a great player by swing guru David Leadbetter. Also exemplifies the work ethic of Jodi that enabled her to nearly win the LPGA Ricoh British Open. Hopefully, Jodi will win a major soon with her remodelled swing and Yorkshire grit...
Very interesting coloration on Jodi's shaft. Is she hitting a graphite shaft? Just started watching your Channel this year, you production quality and video content is progressing at an amazing rate. Please keep up the fantastic work.
The most important thing at the top level is hitting it as straight as possible as often as possible. The reasons behind that are spin axis and how a spin axis other than 0 (perfectly horizontal) significantly affects your ability to hit the target in the wind. The best strikers (yes there are always exceptions, Rocco Mediate, Bubba) hit it with 'tour flight' and what that means is its dead straight, you will struggle to identify which way the ball is moving. Because it basically doesnt. Shot shaping is secondary to that. Some do some dont, thats why.
Dan King I was always under the impression that the majority of tour players favoured some sort of shape. Wether it would be a slight cut or draw. I don’t think it should be under estimated, especially when it comes to a tight dog leg under pressure. After all, tiger was always a master at it and he didn’t do too badly for it.
Yeah i do know that. And i do love tiger. And Bubba. Makes for great viewing. Most do favour a certain shape (albeit a very small amount). But that doesnt make it right. Ive got friends aiming to get on tour who see Rory hit a draw and so they wanna hit a draw. Also think of it this way- Ideally your best shot is dead straight, and your miss is always a slight push fade. "one miss". Also there is a difference between 'best strikers' and 'best players'. There are not alot of holes where you have to play severe shape off the tee. And in these situations, straight guy is going to hit to the corner and play a longer shot into the green. Shape guy is going to go for it and take on more risk. Hitting shapes is a good skill, but not imperative to make a living on tour.
I dont understand technicalities i beleive mr leadbetter is pne of the highest paid coaches but i still feel thus ladys backswing is not smooth. Check it out there is kink . Coaches talk a lot do they play too ? Standing and sitting and making money i
The 'kink' is a steep shaft (off plane)and closed club face at the top of the back swing. Also the 'Malaska move' at the start of the swing. Not what the top players do. I'm sure it's an improvement compared to her old swing but not what I'd change to.
look at her swing at 9:54 -- the exact opposite of the "A" swing...her club goes back and then up instead of up and then back...it's a shame that David has compromised himself with this snake oil...he truly was the best in the late '80s and early '90s when several tour players he coached had their best years
Thanks for this one guys. I've been an A swinger since the book first came out and met David when I attended his facility in Orlando. I said excitedly, "David I've read your book 3 times", to which he smiled and with characteristic Leadbetter deadpan humour said "That's more than I've read it." What a great coach he is. I like that he has a general framework that (for me) has proven effective, but doesn't try to force every golfer into a rigid mold. It's such a simple swing that I have the confidence, as Jodi mentioned, to be able to fix myself out on the course when things start going wrong.
LOL. He totally ruined Lydia Ko. His mold as rigid as it can be.
David is the first to say that the A swing is not for everyone. Lydia seemed to be at her best with David in terms of the number of tournaments she won. Not my definition of "ruined".
What? She immediately started with Leadbetter after turning pro so there really isn't a way to compare Leadbetter with any other coaches. Leadbetter took a while to mess her up, the first 2 years were good since she is super talented. But the forced positions by the end of 2016 and 2017 ended with her fluid swing. Same that happened with Tiger and Foley.
I have been playing for nearly 30 years and have been down to a 4 handicap. But over the years I have been struggling with a pull and a pull hook so as I was not enjoying the game anymore I stopped. I bought The A swing book about two years ago when it first came out. Went out on the range and thought OMG this is not for me! around 3 weeks ago I saw something on UA-cam that struck a cord with me as I am one of these people that try study the golf swing. I have read lots of books particularly John Jacobs Practical Golf. In it he says that let the ball be your teacher so by seeing my straight pulls and pull hooks I realized that my clubface was aiming left as well as an out to in path which matched. With my pull hooks I was correcting to an inside path and a closed club face! Amateurs myself included suffer from our arms and bodies being out of sink and manipulating the club face with our hands. We also flip the club inside our hands and go back shallow which makes most of us come back too steep on the downswing. This causes 95% of us weekend warriors to slice and pull and wiff our way around leaving us in total frustration! OK long story short I had a light bulb moment when I reread the A swing as Leadbetter states that by going back steeper you will automatically come back shallower. This makes golf easier and a lot more fun. I used to blow hot and cold ..When my timing was on I could shoot under 80. But more often than not the next time was a lottery as I could then shoot anywhere between a 92 and 85! I was like a lot of people out there an anti Leadbetter proponent but after going to the range and working through the initial moves which will seem strange at first. I went out and shot a 72 and the next time a 78. I have never shot two consecutive rounds in the 70's so a total surprise. I am hitting the ball basically on a string most of the time with a little draw which I have never been able to do as well as at least two to three clubs longer and solid out of the middle of the club face. Please don't poo poo the A swing if you are battling for consistency like most of us give it a good go get the book..Commit to it for at least a good period of time. They say the definition of madness is "keep doing what you doing and you will keep getting what you getting" At least here one has a blue print and a direction. You may well just thank me in the long run:)
I purchased the book but have this dumb mentality of wanting instant gratification. You know take a pill and play perfect golf! You have given me reason to take pause and give this (what I consider to be a real solution) a better and more reasonable time to take effect. Thank you🙏
Mike Malaska teaches the same, I think they’re on to something.
been watching mike same swing concept
Nice video.
Gentlemen, wow. This channel has raised the bar!!!
That lesson was awesome, David speaks so well & his knowledge is amazing, really enjoyed it
The lesson that broke the camel’s back. Lydia Ko ran without looking back!! Lol
Looks very much like mike Malaska's swing. good stuff
Very true a thorough gentleman and an excellent coach. Those who have got coaching from him are very fortunate.
I like Leadbetter but god he can waffle on, just get to the point David ffs.. :)
Leadbetter calling Jodi 'she' all the time was a bit grating.
Been using this method for several weeks now and it has sorted - a club path that was too much from inside to out , width in whole swing, no flipping at impact, now with right hand under and assisted by trigger finger pressure point, Can swing to the left with chest - thanks all , appreciated.
Very nice video. Cool to see how he coaches his students. 👍
Great segment , the changes are working for her - she is a sweetheart by the way...
The “A swing” does not look natural. It lacks the fluidity of golf swing. The A swing is hinge straight up then reroute on the way down....
@unplugged 92 Just look at the fundamentals of the A Swing - hinge straight up then completely rerouting on the transition? Sure, he has a huge following and but so does Kardashian haha.
Awesome video! Definitely experiencing some back pain in my swing as a young player... this should help me figure this out a bit!
Very impressed with this one! Big thanks to Jodi and David, some really great insights shared. Thanks Andy and Piers! Def bookmark.
Loved this!!! Thanks for the continued great content.
You are welcome. Glad you enjoyed it.
A true gentleman, very patient and believes what he teaches. Great teacher
And where’s Michelle Wei now?
Thanks David for you content, I went out today and finally hit the ball. Not exactly straight yet but I hit the ball well❤
Tidy
WHEN PRACTICING IRONS SHOTS, WHICH IRON DO YOUR STUDENT USE?
7
You can start with wedges like a 56 degree, then 9, 8, 7, 6 iron. If you wanted one club, grab the 8, pick a target around 150 yards away and work on your alignment. Stand back 10 feet, pick a spot 1-2 feet in front of the ball and align it with your target. Walk up and at address, draw a imaginary line to that spot and align your feet parallel to it. Get an align stick too. Too many people get out the driver at the range and hack away. Practice more with an 8 iron.
mr. rbt 6 or 7
I luuuuv Jodi. Awesome she happens to be this student. Btw, if it were a “Holistic” approach, there would have to be some discussion of mind-body connection, at least. Am I wrong? IMO, discussing tendencies and conscious process does not infer holistic processes.
Again I want to thank you guys. I have a big problem with balance in the swing. I always end up stepping forward with right foot after the follow through, can’t hold the pose after the shot. After watching this I thought I have the opposite problem she does. Started sitting back slightly and EVERYTHING feels better. Back swing feels better, can hold the follow through no problem. The whole swing feels smother and more natural. Wish I could afford a trip to UK and some lessons. Thanks again. Btw I’m 65yo and a novice. Goal is to break 100 consistently.
Hey guys do you have any advice, I'm currently trying to change my swing, I'm 45 & I'm not the most athletic guy I've had 5 years out & my swing has become much shorter in the backswing & I come slightly over the top & tend to have bad shots that go straight left or slice, I've watched you vlog about exaggerated wrist turn & steep backswing, I'd love to see something I could work on to help me build a longer more full swing again & rid me of that slice.
Hi Andy and Peers, again good stuff!
If I use the drill (halve way back, then start the swing) my clubhead speed increase about 7 mph (Iron 6). Is there a way to adapt that speed in a full swing?
I think you guys have your next set of video series thanks to David. The cause and effect and fixes to why parts of your body hurts playing golf. I.E your elbow hurts, so you are doing this and this is how you fix it.
only just started watching your channel but the content is very good and informative. It amazes me the comments that are made by people of these type of forums regarding Leadbetter and his teaching methods, staggering.
Great stuff guys! Been watching her play this year. She’s very good!
Those glutes are firing!!
ain't sayin'
Madness for Piers to be standing there when she's hitting. Even pros shank.
i tend to have the same issue as her, which result is a big push or a duck hook. GREAT video guys.
Must be great eh missed that one by a dimple coaching a tour player :)
dude really knowS the sport!! she's also an awesome ball striker!
Hi Andy an pierce, can you do a challenge Tuesday with putter only par 5?
hey guy i live 2 miles from leadbetter was wondering if you are doing lesson while u are here
Leadbetter and Faldo===match made in heaven.
Great video. Really enjoyed David Leadbetter
Why delay the rotation of the forearms in the back swing? Surely the smoothest and simplest swing is a progressive rotation to the end of back swing, on plane.
Why? You wouldn't, necessarily. But if you have a habit of rotating too early, you're likely to go back too flat and then (probably) have that lift-and-over-the-top move. You'll run into yourself on the backswing.
You can have too little rotation, or rotation at the wrong time, too. Just depends on player and habits.
Ol David’s ready for the flood! Great vid
Great stuff!! Love it looks easy to play!!
Hello
the same we cn do with driver?
Don’t wanna offend anyone, as leadbetter is probably a really nice guy and honestly wanna help player but you should rename the title into “How to destroy another great swing by David Leadbetter”
Why... Easy... every good Ballstriker nowadays on the Tour has a clubface at the top in between parallel to the lead arm to facing nearly straight up. That’s what he showed what she had and referred it as shut. Thereafter he moved her into position he wants her to have and refers a clubface of 90 of the horizon (tip looking straight down to the earth) as square... luckily her natural instinct is fighting against as you can see in her swing... don’t tell me it is a feel... he is putting her in that position so she feels how it is supposed to be right... luckily more and more coaches in the world are really paying attention to what the best players in the world do...
Leadbetter already destroyed Michelle Wie and Lydia Ko and i don’t wanna know how many more...
Superb example of how a very good player like Jodi Ewart Shadoff can be turned into a great player by swing guru David Leadbetter. Also exemplifies the work ethic of Jodi that enabled her to nearly win the LPGA Ricoh British Open. Hopefully, Jodi will win a major soon with her remodelled swing and Yorkshire grit...
I am sure she will do. Great ball striking!
Bowie
Very interesting coloration on Jodi's shaft.
Is she hitting a graphite shaft?
Just started watching your Channel this year, you production quality and video content is progressing at an amazing rate.
Please keep up the fantastic work.
Thanks Robert! Glad you're enjoying the videos.
Robert Mayer: Yeah I noticed that too, but I believe from another view it is a steel shaft.
Sorry callaway one of your patent coaches!
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It amazes me when these great golfers struggle to shape shots. Surely it’s an important skill to have.
The most important thing at the top level is hitting it as straight as possible as often as possible. The reasons behind that are spin axis and how a spin axis other than 0 (perfectly horizontal) significantly affects your ability to hit the target in the wind. The best strikers (yes there are always exceptions, Rocco Mediate, Bubba) hit it with 'tour flight' and what that means is its dead straight, you will struggle to identify which way the ball is moving. Because it basically doesnt. Shot shaping is secondary to that. Some do some dont, thats why.
Dan King I was always under the impression that the majority of tour players favoured some sort of shape. Wether it would be a slight cut or draw. I don’t think it should be under estimated, especially when it comes to a tight dog leg under pressure. After all, tiger was always a master at it and he didn’t do too badly for it.
Yeah i do know that. And i do love tiger. And Bubba. Makes for great viewing. Most do favour a certain shape (albeit a very small amount). But that doesnt make it right. Ive got friends aiming to get on tour who see Rory hit a draw and so they wanna hit a draw. Also think of it this way- Ideally your best shot is dead straight, and your miss is always a slight push fade. "one miss". Also there is a difference between 'best strikers' and 'best players'. There are not alot of holes where you have to play severe shape off the tee. And in these situations, straight guy is going to hit to the corner and play a longer shot into the green. Shape guy is going to go for it and take on more risk. Hitting shapes is a good skill, but not imperative to make a living on tour.
It is an important skill to have but what you will find is that most golfers tend to favour a curve therefor it is harder to shape it the other way.
David is the worst teacher on plant earth.
I dont understand technicalities i beleive mr leadbetter is pne of the highest paid coaches but i still feel thus ladys backswing is not smooth. Check it out there is kink . Coaches talk a lot do they play too ? Standing and sitting and making money i
The 'kink' is a steep shaft (off plane)and closed club face at the top of the back swing. Also the 'Malaska move' at the start of the swing. Not what the top players do. I'm sure it's an improvement compared to her old swing but not what I'd change to.
look at her swing at 9:54 -- the exact opposite of the "A" swing...her club goes back and then up instead of up and then back...it's a shame that David has compromised himself with this snake oil...he truly was the best in the late '80s and early '90s when several tour players he coached had their best years
*Cant watch Leadpoisoning for my golf health!!!*
Didn’t recognise Leadbetter without his trademark hat
Too cold and windy.
Very weird for him to refer to her as “she” continuously whilst she is present. Very disrespectful. What’s wrong with using her name?
❄️
David Leadbetter teaching the Malaska move! Awesome.
wwwTripper you’re right !
wwwTripper did
Shame it's not what the top players do.
He’s not!
Very informative...nice job!
After seeing his 'A-swing' nonsense I wouldn't go near him with a barge pole. lol
Why do they wear matching gear?
Very much enjoyed this video, probably one of your best.
Great Dean. glad you enjoyed it.