Steam Approval Process Be Like
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Steam Approval Process for Visual Novels be like
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It feels like VNs are at the mercy of whoever is picked to evaluate them, without an actually consistent criteria.
Pretty much
Still waiting on an official English release of Fate/Stay Night, and Fate/Hollow Ataraxia. Steam or otherwise.
Yea meanwhile all the sex sim game are abundant in the steam
Apparently game approval in Valve is on a rotation of staff like jury duty. And there's at least one particular guy that hates anime and vetos nearly everything when it's his turn. His name and picture was going around for a while on forums and chans, but I forget.
@@MoreEvilThanYahweh first time reading this, can you provide source, gentleman?
Funny how they allow a game with monsters eating and messing with girls, not the sequel or games that are more tame
I did found it strange but the last parts of it really threw me off like who the heck puts Hitler in their in title that throws me off!?😱🤯
Not only that, the sequel's demo is even released there
The inconsistency is really weird
@@snailthelostcow63 *censored
Which series are you talking about
@@yesno2696Evenicle im pretty sure
The steam approval process is headed by a single man. An elderly German gentleman residing in Argentina...
so he doesn't have to face any issues with the german government? makes sense
No wonder there lots of $3x with le austrian painter games on steam
Are you sure he's not Austrian?
You are wrong. If this is true, they wouldn't approve "S...x with Stalin" (not shown in this video).
And a lead poison scout main
I can appreciate the actual Knuckles clips being trimmed down just to keep the video rolling without lingering on a gag.
You know it’s bad when an actual good story is rejected but “Sex with Hitler” is perfectly fine for some reason
I love how the entire Sex With Hitler series is approved, like everyone's in on the massive meme that it is when really it's probably just a wild shot in the dark XD
Don't forget about the spin off Sex with Stalin that is a real thing
Wait what the actual... You jocking right?
@@Sssssss553 i sure am not
@@floricel_112 i didn't know that one XD
The red screen appearing gives off the biggest bs feeling and its hilarious. 🤣
I also like the subtle humor here with the game order to accentuate that there's no consistency in steam's ""policy""
Especially showcase a game series with 1 game gets approved,the other one is banned
@@Galko655e Even better when the 1st in a series gets banned, and the sequel gets approved.
So it was Knuckles’ fault all along…
Darn him!
I expected better from the world's greatest Feminist...
@@TheAugustHail
"DAMN"
- Shadow the Hedgehog
When you only approve one of the prequel/sequel lmao
so infuriating for those who want to have a whole series on steam lmfao
You're overlooking how many of those VNs are censored or butchered to even get on steam...
Uhh.. the last couple are sex with Hitler…
Yea steam is lame as hell
@@Zero-qn8mk if they want to retain the same age rating as their console ports, they sadly had to be butchered to hell (because small minority in Valve's QA cry blood).
But if they want to be marked Adult Only (which hardly any publisher wants; less audience less income), then they can be bonkers all they want...so long as their application process doesn't get screened by the same QA that cried foul about them.
@@Zero-qn8mk It's not even consistent given the amount of smut games. The level of inconsistency lends a bit of credence to the story about approvals being done on rotation and at least one guy is very biased towards anime games and will look for reasons to deny them when it's his turn.
The reason why now I only get those types of stuff from DLsite or the dev’s forum, it might be sometimes pricier and untranslated, but a least I don’t have to deal with censorship
Steam be like
Games that actually show genitalia: Approved!
Anime games with light/mild fanservice: No! It's now illegal!
All or nothing.
Maybe they just want VNs to go full balls to the wall uncensored artwork and all the degeneracy, not just "ecchi" fanservice.
"COME BACK WHEN YOU HAVE MONSTERS RAPING AND EATING WOMEN ALIVE"
Koroinu redux?@@Abedeuss
honestly I'm not surprised, it's like those "people" that when you tell them you want non-garbage ecchi in modern day they go "NOOOO JUST GO WATCH PORN THEN ⋋_⋌"
@@Abedeuss BASED
When uncensored Evenicle got approved but censored Evenicle 2 didn't... like bruh.
Did Evenicle 2 applied using the Adult Only tag?
Evenicle also had "adults only" on Steam. One of the first ones, actually.@@TheRibbonRed
Oh god, Evenicle... I thought it was a normal japanese RPG VN until the monster scene come in.
Alicesoft are the master of throwing random shit you don't expect.
Steam is tired of pixelated sexual organ from Japan.
Six with Adolf looks like a children friendly game
Steam: This is too violent and too sexual!
Also Steam: Damn, Hitler killing thousands of innocents got me acting up...
Steam denying DT2 and DT22 but allowing "My Stepmother has a 20 incher" or whatever makes me livid.
I always thought it was funny certain meme "games" like Sex with Hitler, Fap Simulator etc. were allowed onto steam and actual games/vns weren't.
Yeah steam process is so weird lol.
Wait steam actually refuses games!? Some of the games on the platform are so bad that this seriously suprises me
They're using Scout's Scattergun to randomly select what to ban, while blindfolded at a party of "pin the ban on the donkey".
@@_-Lx-_while not the best strategy, at least it’s fair. If everyone has the same odds as opposed to picking favorites
@@_-Lx-_ah so like bethesda banned people in fallout 76 then or how do i have to imagine this system?
@@klaus.sfc01official30
Yeah, or also like how the Bank and Family Guy Writers make decisions in those two episodes of SouthPark, Manatees and Headless Chickens
@@marcar9marcar972 tbf i think there's also a good side for favoritism. like for example, instead of refusing random entry from two series, let one series entirely and the other not at all. still a bad system ofc, but I think it'd be better for fans that want to have the entire series on steam, with no missing entries. (Chaos;Head Noah will now pain me)
This hit me on a spiritual level. I've come across every non- approved vn on this list and just chuckled every time i couldnt find it on steam. The meteor world actor one is especially hillarious
when Knuckles went "I don't know... Approved!", I broke out laughing.
Bear sex? APPROVED!
Anime breasts? NO! IT'S NOW ILLEGAL
Western world is fucked
@@guilhermehank4938 You don´t say...
already alot of anime breasts there
We really need more videos like this one, people have to know!
True.
I can imagine those games having hundreds of playtime in Gabe's private account
As Gaben famously once said "These things, they take time."
Nice Ciel pfp!
The worst feeling is when your favorite visual novel gone from steam when you still saving money to buy it,or waiting untill summer discount.
Was it this? 0:28
you're telling me there's hype for these games?
@@kuriokudesu Dunno why anyone would play eroge when they can just play straight up hentai...
@@thenonexistinghero uhm... You might want to look up the meaning of "eroge"
@@PacoReer Eroge is for the sad. Hentai is for the mad lad.
Steam has a really weird system when approving VN titles, why did Amatsutsumi got rejected in Steam while those Hitler Sex games got accepted?
That doesn't make fking sense XD
There is only one answer for this. Hold on. Let me put on my tinfoil hat. Ahem, Steam is clearly run by modern day Nazis.
Anti-Japan double standards, I bet.
steam xbox and sony are racist they hate japan thats why
Steam: For VNs, we'll decide with a coin flip to approve or disapprove.
Otherwise the overseers of the Combine will rape our asses, please understand.
There's probably that 1 or 2 guys with hating anime and anything coming from Japan as their main personality chosen to review some of these lol (the same type you often see ranting on any anime-ish mods on L4D2 workshop)
they don't know how to have fun with life i love anime and i like L4D 1 and 2
Media just hate anime, that's why😂
More like media had some weird standards for anime
What does that have to do with steam though?
Facts and they do with sony
But I kinda left fanserice stuff in summer 2019
Considering a sizable amount of it has minors in weirdly sexual or suggestive situations, I don’t blame them.
I guess every japanese VN devs should now start putting the austrian painter as one of their characters and have him on the game covers to get approved by steam 😂🤣🤣
From my experience, it feels like there is some sort of discrimination against japanese games, at least compared to english and chinese ones, which seem to get more leeway unlike the former. Then again, Evenicle 1 got release without any sort of censorship so who the fuck knows at this point .
different people reviewing them most likely based on language preference
I think it's because of the charadesign, most of the girls looks like loli, and pedo stuff is illegal. (it's not wrong actually because they're often 15 as a base ?... )
That doesn't explain the Hitler games though lol
It's a gacha. Steam is, as we know, very laissez-faire organized so whether you pass is based on who you got as your reviewer... I'm sure the companies like Kagura has some sort of "assigned reviewer," but idk about other companies and even Kagura lost the gacha sometimes...
And they wonder why pirating is still a thing
Eh, they don't wonder. They just don't care. They know it's a service issue.
Bro i wanna say, im glad i found your channel, i rarely see people talk about visual novel on any sosial media, i really love visual novel my self, it's the only place that i can interesting/wholesome/romantic things and with a hint of some "busy times" 😅, keep going bro!!!
Recommend me your favorite, now.
@@randomdeliveryguy recently i just finished kunado chronicles, and now its my no 1 favorite so far, i took me 1 month just to finish it, kinda weird because all of my favorite vn is eroge 🗿
@@Yukina._ Looks pretty recent, some people are saying background animations and stuff are not working on the english version, but looks like a solid one.
Appreciate the recommendation.
@@randomdeliveryguy there is also my former most favorite vn of all time, study steady, i still absolutely love the wholesomeness, the character, the art, the music, everything about it, i really have to replay it someday
@@Yukina._ Wow, it's the first VN I've ever seen with Denuvo. Why the hell?
It's funny how I've been expecting more and more insane plots from VNs that I forgot how a normal high school story is just as comfy.
0:45 , yoooo i want this game now 😂
Ah, steam logic... I always hated it!
And they still wondering why people sailed the seven seas...
Something something piracy is a result of bad service
@@TheAugustHail To think that Gabe Newell was the one who said this...
@@TheAugustHail
Overall in most areas Steam's service is usually pretty good, however when it comes to nearly anything relating to moderation of any kind or Steam Support I guess Gabe forgot to send them that Memo, because it's active hell in those areas.
@@LoliconSamalik Well yeah, he would know, he's part of the problem
Still sad about the whole Evenicle 2 shenanigans. Even more sadder cause it actually has gameplay instead of slapping some shock value and insert it into Ren'Py. Even MORE sadder cause the game has built-in "streamer mode". Yes, you can actually toggle the censor in-game, it's an actual feature. Is that still not acceptable enough?
The process is random scattershot at best, and feels almost xenophobic at worst. I can't really speculate on the nature of the people making the decisions too much, but the inconsistency is absolutely worth calling out, but western journalism and a lot of larger content creators especially have a problem with anything coming from Japan, and especially if it contains sexual content, that there's not a lot of hope that some bigger attention could be brought to it.
It feels like they REALLY only 'found out' when they messed with one of the bigger titles from a much bigger publisher on the platform, but the rest of these are such a drop in the bucket (and that's by no means commentary on their quality but their place in a huge platform space like Steam) that they can make these decisions and there never really be enough of an outrage to matter. Sex With Hitler being allowed consistently continues to feel bewildering and almost like an intentional shot.
Because everyone in the west has got to farm shock content for content for some odd reason
I heard a guy who actually does this, hates everything Japanese and novels. So yeah
Their moderation of community content and forums is incredibly scattershot as well, I've had people actively harassing me and stalking me barely punished (And Steam Blocks and etc are worthless) meanwhile I was banned simply for telling people not to engage with and feed an active troll attempting to start flame wars.
Apparently defaming and slandering and stalking people is a minor offense, but noting behaviour of a toxic individual actively attempting to bait an argument is somehow "naming and shaming" and worth a ban.
Steam just has garbage moderation across the board. I say that as a big fan of Valve overall.
@@Kjmich Agreed with the novel part. I personally don't like visual novels, and think qualifying them as videogames is ultimately counterproductive. They rarely, if ever, have developed gameplay to them, so I think classifying them as a different form of entertainment and creating a platform specifically for them would be the best option. Especially considering said platform could avoid all the restrictions that get placed on them by Steam or other storefronts.
@@user-wj6jh1cd5nSteam has sold more than just games for a while now. Steam sells movies on their platform as well. VNs are interactive most of the time with decision making. Do we disqualify walking simulators from Steam since you only hold one button a majority of the time? That line of thinking is close minded at best. VNs being removed from Steam could have big financial ramifications for VN devs and the VN industry as a whole since Steam is an actual safe distribution platform 99% of the time unlike other "legit" VN selling sites.
they actually saw the game song of saya showing fully exposed boobs and said ''yeah, that's fine''. at that point they might as well allow sex scenes on steam (some of these game aren't even esrb rated so shouldn't they just allow sex scenes on steam and leave it at that?}
Aristoc*nts: APPROVED 🥳
Chaos;Child: NO. 😐
The Hitler games and other such gross bootlegs are an active blight on Steam's stores...
@@TnaMako1
The worst kinda indie devs, low quality bootleg companies that pump out schlock often based on offensive or copyrighted content rapidly in order to make a cheap buck and hoping people will buy it ironically.
There's countless great Indie Games made by talented devs out there, these types of ones are the ones you don't hear aknowledged much, for pretty obvious reason, aside from the Mascot Horror scene you don't see these types of losers aknowledged much due to being small scale and low quality, so unlikely to get genuine attention/success of word of mouth the way games more effort and ideas poured into them, and they're not already highlighted like AAA companies and brands are.
@@TnaMako1 Memes, shock value and content farming obviously
@@TnaMako1
Did you not see anything I said about bootleg devs including offensive/copyrighted content in their low quality games hoping for their games to be purchases ironically so they can make a cheap buck?...
@@_-Lx-_ potentially also money laundering
Why did Thanhnguyen delete their replies?..
>get approved
>"profile features limited"
Muramasa being denied harkens back to when Berserk was temporarily taken off store shelves.
Thank you for talking about the visual novels
Thanks for being here!
Mary Skelter Finale at least made it through.
Steam:
Evenicle 1 = Approved
Evenicle 2 = No. It's illegal
Also Steam:
Sex with Hitler franchise = "APPROVED"
uncle A is not a loli so he got the pass.
funny cause I found the second Evenicle to be way more tame compared to the first, still beyond me how it got banned
Also Steam: *Approves a majority of puzzle hentai games.
Easy, devs just gotta put hitler in the front of the cover art. 😂
Instant approval haha
MEDIC, MEDIC WHERE ARE YOU
i knew muramasa was gonna be here LOL
When they don't approve FMD but they approve the wrong type of H games
I find it funny that competing publishers lambasted Valve when they started allowing H games into their store. Now, almost all of them are also selling the same type of games. Even funnier everyone piled on Valve, again, when they censored or ban some H games on their store.
Game: Sheep in dreams
I dont knooow...
*APPROVED*
Im telling ya there's a guy at the office approving at random
Swear it sounds like they're run by bots... like a certain platform we all know.
This is just the Australian ratings board
I will protect it with all of my honor, Take me to the dungeon is the sweetest Eroge ever!
The gameplay is truly enjoyable to play, along with its story
No lie, the story is actually really good until you get to the endings (which if I recall right, they are releasing an epilogue at some point). By the end I was skipping 'that' content to just keep getting back to the game and story
I thought i've seen some shit, but FOUR ITERATIONS OF A GAME WHERE ANIME GIRLS DO THE DIRTY WITH HITLER?
I can't.
Don't worry, there's not 4.
There's even MORE, as well as similiar stuff like furries doing the dirty with anthro Hitler and ones about doing the dirty with Stalin.
Only the highest quality content on Steam, who needs silly visual novels about chinese cartoons when you have deep thought provoking mature tasteful content like this?
@@_-Lx-_ Do i want to ask why you know this?
@@bubibolz
Because I'm exposed to the sewage that I see in the new and trending tab every single day I open the Steam Store page, and have seen those games freaquently and they're rather infamous.
I'm very kinky myself, however I wouldn't ever go touch those garbage slop.
I loved how after all the media buzz and people demanding blood they just went "Approved" :D
Ay lmao
bro the last ones im dead 💀💀💀
They banned Chaos;Head because it's fucking awful
So was Cyberpunk 2077, but that gets a pass?
Doing research, GOG has most of the "illegal" stuff. Also, MWA 1 looked HARDCORE. I only found it buyable on a site that specializes in hentai VAs and the previews looked pretty heavy.
I'm surprised people care about steam when you can just buy the game from actual adult sites like the adult you are.
@@azinyefantasy4445 I don't think the video so much has to do with the games' availability as it does Steams' priorities with what's acceptable on their storefront.
@@azinyefantasy4445 Less exposure, less community, lower quality and attitude towards erotisism and most importantly, extremely limited payment options.
I'd rather have a more mainstream way of buying eroge like GoG or even physical copies that aren't sold on USB sticks....
@@azinyefantasy4445it's because steam is the largest platform for PC games, being on steam literally translates to more awareness for and often more sales for your game as a developer
how tf subarashiki hibi manage to sneak in, that is the most unhinged hand crafted VN
Steam approval of adult visual novels makes even less sense than 3 wave feminist in USA.
Newton and the apple trees no longer available on steam 😢
It's sad, really sad
You picked the only one where Steam isn't involved: the company that localized Newton went insolvent so every game they released got removed from every store.
@@DonaldDuckPK I see thank you for the information.
You're welcome ;)
After a bit of investigation i discovered that actually not ALL of their titles got removed, but Newton was amidst the unlucky ones. I think it has something to do with them not having finished paying the royalties to the original japanese companies.
F95
I remember seeing it there . Never got to play it though.
The ending was perfect.
I think they got a little bit more loose after Chaos;Head Noah controversy, EVEN THOUGH right after that, Dungeon Travelers 2 didnt get approved at all(although maybe cuz it was rejected already before). Honestly steam approval process still sucks... But maybe VN localizers can take some notes from NekoNyan, since they got Clover Days issue solved or find some other loop hole, like maybe re-cutting muramasa and putting it on steam with the japanese name instead(I saw some hgames cut and pass with a different name like that, before adult games were allowed on steam).
BUUUT as much as it sucks for VN publishers, steam still stands the test of time, so I can always support publishers on steam only, since this is a niche genre, its too good to have everything easy to get, in one place with just few clicks, like, for real, I still have Newton and the Apple Tree in my steam library and can play it and finding a patch is easy enough. I hope VN publishers explore more ways to get games on steam.
You forget about GOG. It somewhat lenient with permission and censorship, it let full version of Saya no Uta, while Steam made cuts from it.
@@Artemas_16 GoG is also curated, meaning they see games (or VNs in our case) that are earnest in their efforts and let them through. In comparison, shock value shovelware crap that was seen towards the end would never be allowed on their H section.
Dungeon Travelers is just so funny. Not only that it's a Vita game which is obviously meant it's a "safe" game, you'll barely enjoy the nudity anyway since the gameplay is just moe wizardry. You'll spent more time grinding than watching anime tiddies
Still so funny they didn't let Evenicle II because of the flashback h scene
Cafe Stella and the grim reapers Butterflies is severely underrated
it's good (there is also Riddle Joker and Sabbat of the Witch, funnily enough the only Yuzusoft title that really got tons of reviews on Steam is Senren Banka (but I can't fault it cause the sword loli is fucking amazing), the newest title was supposed to come out January (Angelic Chaos: Re boot) but it got banned last minute...
What a dumpster fire.
Straight up ive heard people in my school last year talk about the last one (but they never directly said the name)
Some games uploaded are the steam ToS "safe" versions, and the "Xtra" content can be downloaded from their website and dropped into some game folder.
a lot of the VNs that get through the bullshit process do that nowadays
@@The93Momo93 Yes to this day I'm still amazed by this wise strategy, it's like I would do if I was a dev. It's also not their fault for people modding their games.
I mean I wish more games do this, it's quite old now.
There's a couple of Furry Hitler VN games...don't ask me how I know.
We've all seen the trash in the new and trending tab, I'll give benifit of the doubt.
It still baffles me that they approved KUROINU of all possible eroges. Heavily censored to a laughable degree, but still.....
Piracy: Allow me to introduce myself
I think this has not nothing to do with criteria instead by hardware and software specificacions. Is not strange see Japanese games dont work well in western computers. Generally you need a language emulator, and sometimes does not even work anyway.
I have never encountered a game like that, you need japanese fonts installed in the worst cases but now then I haven't seen a game where you needed that for the english release to work...
@@The93Momo93 you wont find them on steam
What do they think up in steam headquarters... aka valve
Steam's approval process for VNs is a coin flip
The truth truly hurts
Oh man, its already been one year since the #SaveChaosHead and #SaveSciADV movement. I remember seeing it on Sunday night and immediatly sending emails to Gabe Newell and other people at Valve, Im glad it worked.
I always hated that most of the anime games on Steam are very generic, very copy and pasted and that companies don't try to do unique stuff.
But seeing how both Sony and Valve treats anime and japanese games, i can see why.
The case of Evenicle 2 was weird even for Steam
the scenes are really tame compared to the first, truly a mystery case
I always find this funny because they used to be a lot more strict, not just in quality but also the type of content allowed.
But they also didn't have refunds. So yeah, some good, some bad.
I do not like the prospects of a game that has a physically attractive anime female winking and smiling at me with colorful text below her "To the Dungeon!"
Seeing that To the Dungeon game on steam sales was a fuckin mental flash bang
This is brilliant
This was hilarious and informative. Well done
They had me in the first half not going to lie
im not even really fan of VNs
but but even i think this is way too inconsistent
RIP My Sweetest Monster 2, rejected despite the first one being on steam.
Can someone explain to me the joke I'm a little confused I just see visual novels
It's about whether Steam banned the game or not
Steam doesn't have an approval process, you pay them $100 dollars and they'll list literally anything.
if that was the case, then these devs would be put on the platform regardless.
Steam will never decide if they actually want adult games on there platform or not like why is Kara No Shoujo 1 ok but not 2?
I thought 2 was already greenlit on the platform, but it's going to come out in the second half of 2024.
@@gotinogaden I'm talking about the old mangagamer releases that didn't use external h patches, before Shiravune picked the series up
Steam’s policy: we’re not gonna allow any 18+ games! (Unless it features elfs, cat girls, aliens, incest, minors, or dictators.)
Ya, you make a pretty decent point laddy (or lassie).
Edit:
Approved
Surprised by the lack of friendship with benefits
That second one is just a bubch of random english words stuck together
They probably don't even play them before approving.
I mean neither does anything like the ESRB
I love Clannad.