Not really? Quantum physics isn't really about "you never know until it happens" it's more about, until you know it's happened, everything that could be happening is happening. Schrodinger's cat wasn't about "this cat is either dead or alive and we'll never know until we open the box" it was about "this cat is both dead and alive because we haven't opened the box." Not a statement of uncertainty of what's happened, but a statement that it's all happening.
Now you know why Alex needs copious brakes & copious grip, even when it's not the most meta build :D Sometimes hardware needs to compensate for the software ^^ Love you Alex
It was like watching the Road Runner pop up and go "Meep Meep" and vanish and appear somewhere else several times as Wil E. Coyote tries desepartely to chase it. It has high meme potential.
I was in the 300ZX behind Alex and the Daytona, for me it was lagging even harder, doing some weird ass Tony Hawk tricks. It was hilarious seeing the GTR battle that thing flying everywhere while i was just viewing the lot from behind
my skyline was a joy to drive, despite missing a checkpoint in the first two races and hitting some barriers in the final race it still did pretty adequate, overall was pretty happy with it, though gliscor did say I performed sacrilege by AWD swapping it
@@elektrotehnik94 I do it in a google sheets thing. I set up the equations so now all I have to do is type the finishing position in at the end of each race and type N/A if someone didn't do the race/got kicked/drove the wrong car. Then copy and paste the results to a comment and clean up the formatting issues.
@@Alexandru-T. To be fair they haven't been in a ton of Forza 5 races and (though I don't remember specifics) some of the ones they were in may have been the "joke build" races. I count those since it does take skill to adjust to weird conditions, but they can throw a wrench into the usual expected results.
Thanks for the regular uploads - my rig is shipping to the UK (having just relocated) and watching your content is the closest I can get to gaming right now.
I was hoping to see you down here 😂 Super happy to see you more and more in these races, you're an incredibly skilled driver and you've been very good at building cars too, love watching you race, just wish I could see your perspective of some of these races!
Alex, you need to tune in some over steer into your cars, when you get into the power cars you are too planted, so you always under steer in the tighter corners. This will increase your lap speed, as you can get to the apex and you won't need to yield as much.
Good example of a sort of spec series and why some dominate when you have the same equipment: setup prep! While Alex's GT-R didn't look terrible, there's a lot of things I would have changed even within A class to make it drive better. One day we'll see our hero triumphant...
@failrace I'm not sure if this is something that you would do, but what I'm trying to learn a track on Forza, I do the automatic steer auto braking and basically let the PC run the track five times and pay attention to where it breaks at. Then I have an idea of where to start breaking and modify it for myself with handling. Just an idea
I’d like to see your tuning setup. I feel like there’s some missed opportunities as far as suspension stiffness and aerodynamics go, because I’ve built a GTR with off-road tires before and it seems to handle a lot better than this one
Decrease springs a bit, Increase damping a bit more for the bumps, works perfect! (just take a few runs for fine tuning) P.s.:If REGENWORM starts to bother you too much, just start talking about a planned weekend fishing and he will back off ;-)
What's the car that longbow is driving in the tuner race? it looks like an r33 with some kind of widebody kit, but there's no widebody kit on the r33? someone pls help cause it looks dope af
Well, I think I'll do up my old task while waiting for proper team adventures. FailRace vs The Community: Forza Horizon V Tuners vs Muscle (Limited Selection, A Class, Open Mods) Ca5ino Royale.......................74 [FRM] LongbowX MkII..........70 ziperrPL.................................62 [FRM] Raregliscor1...............60 Leopard of Fire......................46 [N3K0] oezPeda....................42 (2nd place) [FRM] Roxttar........................42 (4th place) REGENW0RM........................38 [FRM] ShadowRush 2112.....36 [FEC0] LTFILASPOON............30 un1que7358...........................28 d00nits...................................10 -- Points are awwarded on the classic Forza scale (20 for 1st, 18 for second, etc.) -- DNFs and disconnects are awarded zero (0) points. -- The first On Camera Roll will be rewarded the "Roll of the Day," with timestamp. -- Position ties broken based: == Number of Wins == Highest Position Acquired == Number of Times "Highest Position" is Obtained
Fun Facts! - Gliscor either finished in first place or DNF'd. No middle ground. - Longbow was on pace to win, with three 2nd place finishes and a one 3rd, until he had his controller disconnect. - Congrats to Leopard for having the fastest of the Muscle cars. - All three Detroit automakers were represented in this event (Ford, Dodge, Chevy), and three tuner manufacturers (Nissan, Honda, Mitsubishi). - Nismo: 358. The World: 180.
might have already been said but didn't see it. The newer Skylines were better offroad because of the weight. The extra mass help the traction in the dirt and mud with the offroad race tyres but hinders on the tarmac. Much better physics in 5 :-)
Idea, do a match between two types of Cars. One that is a sedan type and one an off-road or a SUV. Do two races; one off-road the other tarmac. Get there lap times close and then an "Adventure", then who can drive the best Driver. Switching of course. Maybe randomish builds...
How do you get to all these different type of races? I would really like to do something like this instead of all the usual standard racing where everyone just want to send you off a bridge 😢
I’m sorry but my feeble American brain can’t comprehend the fact that a GTR can have a straight line speed advantage over a muscle car, especially a Daytona!
Don't think an R35 would be a tuner. That car is more a supercar if anything. Better choice would've been the previous gen GTRs or something else starting from B/A class.
Click see more for spoilers on my end So I had used this same Mustang 1969 before in an unreleased vs the community session and man what a monster it is. 1500hp, offroad race tires, RWD and a top speed of 260mph+. If this had the traction it would obliterate everything and surprisingly even with all that power it's not too bad to drive.
Ugh. Painful to watch. Especialy that 1st race. Just my opinion if you care for it - dont experiment. You realy arent cut out for it and you dont seem to adapt to how your non-comfort zone cars drive. Go back to your typical rally tire+handling car template, becauze that handles how you want it to handle and fits your style (and your good at it). This car definitly didnt handle how you want it to. And it REALY shows. I'm not any kind of driving expert (in games or irl), and even I culd tell you wer overdriving it up to Z, expecting more grip where there vas none. I mean, you shuldnt feel like you HAVE to experiment. That its a pride thing. We all have niches in our interests. My thing is martial arts, I've practiced many diferent forms over the years, most I dropped after they didn't realy click with me, but I couple I stuck with, for a long time now. I've got my own comfort zone with fighting styles, you got yours with car handling. Why experiment? Stick to what you'r good at. It's better to master one thing that you'r good at, then to get frustrated trying 10 diferent things that don't fit you. Stick to the kind of car builds you'r good at driving. That's my advice. :)
@@raregliscor1 Thing is, I dont think he ever did. Get used to it, I mean. He and that Zipper guy had the same car builds, right? And the diference in driving skill was clear. Just as someone who's been (intermitently) watching his vids since early last year - his driving in FH4 vas awesome. Ever since he started FH5, his experiments didnt go well.
Quantum physics in a nutshell:
"Shrödinger Daytona, you never know where it is until you hit it."
@Timo J shrodinger's viper, you never realized your hybrid v8 twin turbo hypercar lost a track record to it until you already have
Not really? Quantum physics isn't really about "you never know until it happens" it's more about, until you know it's happened, everything that could be happening is happening. Schrodinger's cat wasn't about "this cat is either dead or alive and we'll never know until we open the box" it was about "this cat is both dead and alive because we haven't opened the box." Not a statement of uncertainty of what's happened, but a statement that it's all happening.
Take a shot every time Alex brakes too late.
Phone an ambulance beforehand.
Wonders which will happen sooner - Alex learning the tracks or Forca Horizon 6 coming out...
Now you know why Alex needs copious brakes & copious grip, even when it's not the most meta build :D
Sometimes hardware needs to compensate for the software ^^ Love you Alex
Instructions unclear: drank whole bottle before first race started.
That teleporting leopard was one of the funniest things I've seen in FH5.
Gave me some Level-R flashbacks... 😅
The best part of the whole vid tbh lol
It was like watching the Road Runner pop up and go "Meep Meep" and vanish and appear somewhere else several times as Wil E. Coyote tries desepartely to chase it.
It has high meme potential.
I was in the 300ZX behind Alex and the Daytona, for me it was lagging even harder, doing some weird ass Tony Hawk tricks. It was hilarious seeing the GTR battle that thing flying everywhere while i was just viewing the lot from behind
I was amazed I didn't disconnect
the NSX was an absolute beaut to drive. Also yeah definitely the weight was the problem in the GTR, you can see it.
Good racing, and I was really digging the Hololive livery on your NSX.
it also helps that that NSX is one of the fastest A Class cars in FH5. its a monster of a track car.
Love the Kronii livery on your NSX great job racing
my skyline was a joy to drive, despite missing a checkpoint in the first two races and hitting some barriers in the final race it still did pretty adequate, overall was pretty happy with it, though gliscor did say I performed sacrilege by AWD swapping it
Alex: That was a terrible final lap by me
Forza: Best Lap
FailRace Crew Average Finishing Positions in Forza 5.
Ca5inoRoyale: 4.75
P1eased0nteatme: 3.91
InvisibleAK: 5.98
LongbowX MkII: 4.58
Raregliscor 1: 4.29
ewanm9389: 7.05
SPeeDBEAsTx: 8.1
LeatherCapG: 7.16
Timid Ninetales: 6.95
UltraBlAkEy95: 5.04
DANGERMAN8000: 6.94
Stevie 1055: 9.5
datrusskiy: 7.24
impega 1957: 5.84
TmDc HypeR: 7.39
Laddosaurus: 10.09
Liamt007: 5.16
Stintyboy500: 4.5
Do you do this by hand every game? :D
@@elektrotehnik94 I do it in a google sheets thing.
I set up the equations so now all I have to do is type the finishing position in at the end of each race and type N/A if someone didn't do the race/got kicked/drove the wrong car.
Then copy and paste the results to a comment and clean up the formatting issues.
I expected impega to be higher.
@@Alexandru-T. To be fair they haven't been in a ton of Forza 5 races and (though I don't remember specifics) some of the ones they were in may have been the "joke build" races.
I count those since it does take skill to adjust to weird conditions, but they can throw a wrench into the usual expected results.
@@bolbyballinger That's dedication :D
Fair enough man, well done
That last race was a fun one to watch. Also, loving the Hololive livery on Gliscor's NSX.
Thanks for the regular uploads - my rig is shipping to the UK (having just relocated) and watching your content is the closest I can get to gaming right now.
Not as much fun as C class, but still :)
PS. I was just waiting at the start of 2nd race
I was hoping to see you down here 😂
Super happy to see you more and more in these races, you're an incredibly skilled driver and you've been very good at building cars too, love watching you race, just wish I could see your perspective of some of these races!
I also love seeing you in races, shame about the disconnect in the first one and awesome pace on Baja!
What is it about is classic American muscle racing against jdm tuners that makes them so appealing for me?
Alex, you need to tune in some over steer into your cars, when you get into the power cars you are too planted, so you always under steer in the tighter corners. This will increase your lap speed, as you can get to the apex and you won't need to yield as much.
Good example of a sort of spec series and why some dominate when you have the same equipment: setup prep! While Alex's GT-R didn't look terrible, there's a lot of things I would have changed even within A class to make it drive better. One day we'll see our hero triumphant...
Alex: Tuner versus Muscle!
Also Alex: Has absolutely no idea how to tune a car in Horizon
Sometimes the odd choices don't work out.
Best kinda vs races.
Love both types, but I'd have to be team JDM , can't deny my hopeless love for Skylines
wow ... Alex is starting to drive like Laddo ! ;-)
Tbh, I dont consider a gtr a tuner anymore.
More or less a Japanese muscle car.
its a sports car
The ratio of crying to driving has gone up exponentially in your latest videos.
Please bring the hill climb races again! the solo ones that you use to do.
I miss the 1v1 championship hillclimbs too
Leopard of fire needs to quit using that Mcdonald's wifi 😂
Odd how Nissan's dev history is summed up in this vid. "My car is newer and has much more weight"
I have an RS200 Hoonigan in A-Class with off-road race tyres. Love downgrading cars to lower classes, example: S1 to A-Class.
22:25 old mate on the left forgot to bring his car along to the stage podium.
@failrace I'm not sure if this is something that you would do, but what I'm trying to learn a track on Forza, I do the automatic steer auto braking and basically let the PC run the track five times and pay attention to where it breaks at. Then I have an idea of where to start breaking and modify it for myself with handling. Just an idea
Would love to hop in one of these wreckfest or fh5 sessions with you
I’d like to see your tuning setup. I feel like there’s some missed opportunities as far as suspension stiffness and aerodynamics go, because I’ve built a GTR with off-road tires before and it seems to handle a lot better than this one
Decrease springs a bit, Increase damping a bit more for the bumps, works perfect! (just take a few runs for fine tuning)
P.s.:If REGENWORM starts to bother you too much, just start talking about a planned weekend fishing and he will back off ;-)
Not sure if you’re taking ideas for future races, but are most/all the failrace film crews real life cars in Forza, could be an interesting race.
Schrödingers Daytona lol
What's the car that longbow is driving in the tuner race? it looks like an r33 with some kind of widebody kit, but there's no widebody kit on the r33? someone pls help cause it looks dope af
Its the NISMO GT-R LM, I think? Racing version of the r34 (or r33?), it had a forza edition in Horizon 4.
@@tonyschultze9248 Thanks, you're absolutely right! But of course it was a seasonal I missed.. I'll see what the auction prices are like
Aye didnt expect to see an Ouro Kronii NSX, good taste
Seems like that car needs more read diff bias and a little - front toe
When are they supposed to add team adventures?
Good video, enjoyed tha last race very well. but terrible driving from Alex on some circuits especially the 1st and the 4th races. Anyway ☺️ ❤️👍
I have a rally tyre R35 that beats Bone Shakers on the straights and low speed corners. Buggers are still a bit faster in the high speed corners.
Schrodinger's Daytona
😆😆😆
Well, I think I'll do up my old task while waiting for proper team adventures.
FailRace vs The Community: Forza Horizon V
Tuners vs Muscle (Limited Selection, A Class, Open Mods)
Ca5ino Royale.......................74
[FRM] LongbowX MkII..........70
ziperrPL.................................62
[FRM] Raregliscor1...............60
Leopard of Fire......................46
[N3K0] oezPeda....................42 (2nd place)
[FRM] Roxttar........................42 (4th place)
REGENW0RM........................38
[FRM] ShadowRush 2112.....36
[FEC0] LTFILASPOON............30
un1que7358...........................28
d00nits...................................10
-- Points are awwarded on the classic Forza scale (20 for 1st, 18 for second, etc.)
-- DNFs and disconnects are awarded zero (0) points.
-- The first On Camera Roll will be rewarded the "Roll of the Day," with timestamp.
-- Position ties broken based:
== Number of Wins
== Highest Position Acquired
== Number of Times "Highest Position" is Obtained
Fun Facts!
- Gliscor either finished in first place or DNF'd. No middle ground.
- Longbow was on pace to win, with three 2nd place finishes and a one 3rd, until he had his controller disconnect.
- Congrats to Leopard for having the fastest of the Muscle cars.
- All three Detroit automakers were represented in this event (Ford, Dodge, Chevy), and three tuner manufacturers (Nissan, Honda, Mitsubishi).
- Nismo: 358. The World: 180.
The Kronii NSX ^^
might have already been said but didn't see it. The newer Skylines were better offroad because of the weight. The extra mass help the traction in the dirt and mud with the offroad race tyres but hinders on the tarmac. Much better physics in 5 :-)
Loved my Nissan. My poor driving let it down
mmm didn't know gliscor was in the rabbit hole as well.
Idea, do a match between two types of Cars. One that is a sedan type and one an off-road or a SUV. Do two races; one off-road the other tarmac. Get there lap times close and then an "Adventure", then who can drive the best Driver. Switching of course. Maybe randomish builds...
i wish you litf in start of cornering and flooring the gas in corners
Can we really consider a R35 a tuner anymore? Its a supercar.
R35 isn't a supercar
Too slow to be a super car
@@ulknown1512 Yes. Its to heavy and not aerodynamic enough
What did the Ferrari say the the porche? Nothing, it's a car it can't talk.. but the driver did laugh at its electric drive train.
Oops! All tuners!
that dodge is everywhere xD
Yes A GTR .
I made a class A 69' camaro with 1500hp and its a beast
How do you get to all these different type of races? I would really like to do something like this instead of all the usual standard racing where everyone just want to send you off a bridge 😢
When next " Driven to Destruction " coming?
Next year, I'd guess...
Tuners.....vs tuners and a couple muscle cars.. 😄
Congrats that is the first time I've seen you place 1st
I’m sorry but my feeble American brain can’t comprehend the fact that a GTR can have a straight line speed advantage over a muscle car, especially a Daytona!
Alternate title:
Gazelles vs gazibo's
Daytona making my eyes itch
Early braking is key on the first track you messed up multiple times
Tuner vs muscle first race had 2 muscle lol
If you know you'll only be racing on road when downgrading, it's better to use drag tires for the insane acceleration it gives.
that and it has better grip on road then those mud tires (aka the forza dirt race tires)
Bravo ZipperPL
Whatever happened to long drive and the car mechanic simulator
New version of Forza Horizon came out a couple of months ago.
So you say remove the drive and the car is good maybe try putting longbow or zipper in the the seat see how they drive it
Don't think an R35 would be a tuner. That car is more a supercar if anything. Better choice would've been the previous gen GTRs or something else starting from B/A class.
Click see more for spoilers on my end
So I had used this same Mustang 1969 before in an unreleased vs the community session and man what a monster it is. 1500hp, offroad race tires, RWD and a top speed of 260mph+. If this had the traction it would obliterate everything and surprisingly even with all that power it's not too bad to drive.
Another Rush fan ?
The Daytona was the Harry Potter car
Its talking forever for my FORZA Horizon 4 to download...... aaaaa
Demand Forza to stop talking so it can focus on downloading faster?
@@DarkDutch007 ok I'll go "yell at it"
@@RuskThunder Start playing FH4 now?
@@Timberwolf69 it's almost been 3 days and it's at 56%
@@RuskThunder So you are downloading FH4, just as I can start to look forward to starting to download FH5 in the near future?
yo
#teamseas.................................................................................................
Ugh. Painful to watch. Especialy that 1st race.
Just my opinion if you care for it - dont experiment. You realy arent cut out for it and you dont seem to adapt to how your non-comfort zone cars drive. Go back to your typical rally tire+handling car template, becauze that handles how you want it to handle and fits your style (and your good at it). This car definitly didnt handle how you want it to. And it REALY shows. I'm not any kind of driving expert (in games or irl), and even I culd tell you wer overdriving it up to Z, expecting more grip where there vas none.
I mean, you shuldnt feel like you HAVE to experiment. That its a pride thing. We all have niches in our interests. My thing is martial arts, I've practiced many diferent forms over the years, most I dropped after they didn't realy click with me, but I couple I stuck with, for a long time now. I've got my own comfort zone with fighting styles, you got yours with car handling. Why experiment? Stick to what you'r good at. It's better to master one thing that you'r good at, then to get frustrated trying 10 diferent things that don't fit you.
Stick to the kind of car builds you'r good at driving. That's my advice. :)
I feel like Alex did perfectly well in the GTR, he held his own pretty well on tarmac once he got used to the car.
@@raregliscor1 Thing is, I dont think he ever did. Get used to it, I mean. He and that Zipper guy had the same car builds, right? And the diference in driving skill was clear.
Just as someone who's been (intermitently) watching his vids since early last year - his driving in FH4 vas awesome. Ever since he started FH5, his experiments didnt go well.
Wow- this game is terribly broken isn’t it… 😧
Why can’t you say “racing” correctly
I still think Fairlady is a horrible name for a car.
First love the vids
First