Anyone who is a student of the game should watch the Jones series. It contains so many gems despite contradicting modern teaching. Of course, shafts were different but after watching him make dozens of swings with his slightly over the top action and left hand grip release you get hypnotised by his skill, rhythm and repeating swing. And he was a fantastically skilled player.
Bobby took the club back with his hips, he didn't do anything with the arms until he lift them that makes it an inside takeaway, when he brought the club down it was slightly steeper than the take away but we'll within the ball target line. Many players of his day took it back well inside then was over that line but it wasn't over the top swing that everyone wants about. Now they want you to take it back outside and come down more inside, his and other greats of his day had through swings that approached the ball from the inside. Both methods there is a slight loop and both methods attack from the inside. One instructor called his swing and Sam Snead Ott, I had to laugh if the swing attacks from inside the ball line it's absolutely not Ott.
I teach Hogan to this day (to those just getting started) because it plants a seed of understanding about the cause and effects in golf. That understanding, in my humble opinion, is more important than anything else. People will usually adapt as necessary to their own personal build and capabilities but they do so more effectively with a solid basic understanding of the dynamics of the club and ball relationship
The ole pop stroke. Still effective for sure. People (like me) can get waaayyyy too technical and unnatural. The goal is to get the ball in the hole and there are many ways of doing that. Love this one.
Bobby was strong in all depts, driver, irons (all), chipping,pitching, putting and his mind. The fact he won all those majors and retired at age of twenty eight years old while going months without touching a club and usually won the tournament is mind boggling he was practicing law two years before he retired. Over forty % win rate is astounding.
Love this. Thanks for sharing! Not exactly what they teach you to do nowadays, but it's so cool to see this history. I'm reading The Grand Slam by Mark Frost right now, so hearing Jones's voice helps to round out the whole feel of that era.
It really does, it's my belief that putting is the most natural part of the game and you can either judge it well or you cant. If you cant then locking yourself up and following modern advice may help cut down huge mistakes - if you can then it really makes no difference what you do.
Mike, I love your taste in caps! Check out the Stetson Hatteras Cashmere/Silk Flat Cap Made in Germany. They wear like iron and look better with age. I have a gray and a brown and wear them all the time. They are a bit expensive, but well worth it! The quality is unbelievable! Cheers!🙂
Here's the cap I'm talking about: www.amazon.com/Stetson-Hatteras-Cashmere-Silk-Flat/dp/B0079IUL9Q/ref=asc_df_B0079IUL9Q/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=550156420535&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1153828289102527104&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033604&hvtargid=pla-531851472371&psc=1
I think you will learn to appreciate the reverse-overlap grip for putting. Very few high-level players use the same grip for putting that they use for their full swing. Cheers! 🙂
Regarding your transcript notes, I believe Phil Mickelson also slightly loosens his upper hand grip on the backswing (especially with the driver), and regrips as he starts down. Haven't seen him swing recently so I don't know if he still has that tendency, but over the years his wayward drives certainly contributed to "Phil the Thrill"!!
I wouldn't be shocked if he had done this earlier in his career, but you won't see it any longer. The last eight or 10 years he has put in considerable time to tighten up his swing.
@@Somefatdude it has benifet when your stroke is almost all wrist just as much as almost all arm. Your more capable of making fine movements with wrist and fingers than whole body/upper body. If your naturally good at putting it really doesnt matter. If you suck youll still such with modern teqnique. Of all golf tips putting syle is the most overrated of them all.
@@poocrayon4588 a wristy stroke is less consistent, which is a data-proven fact, so no, I don’t agree with your position. Go look at gears or Sam putt lab data. Wristy strokes have more face rotation, less consistent arc, less consistent face to path, and less consistent speed control.
Jones has the club in his fingers much like a Faxon or Crenshaw, whereas many today are taught to grip it in the lifelines. What are your thoughts on fingers vs lifelines?
@@maxwatson6953 I think if you are a feel putter, you must hold it in your fingers. Cam Smith is a feel putter. So was Locke and Jones. It's hard to gauge distance with your shoulders. It's why you hold a dart in your fingers, not in your palm. There is a putting method using the shoulders which is more mechanical and for this you want the grip more in the palms. I think the secret to great putting might be holding the grip in the fingers - why? Because distance control is more important than line and, like throwing marbles an exact distance, you must use your fingers.
Not much of that pertains to today's greens, they are much faster. Not mention we have way more putting styles, claw, left hand low, belly putters, etc.
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Anyone who is a student of the game should watch the Jones series. It contains so many gems despite contradicting modern teaching. Of course, shafts were different but after watching him make dozens of swings with his slightly over the top action and left hand grip release you get hypnotised by his skill, rhythm and repeating swing. And he was a fantastically skilled player.
Bucket, it seems I can always count on you for a good take. - Well said! 👍
Bobby took the club back with his hips, he didn't do anything with the arms until he lift them that makes it an inside takeaway, when he brought the club down it was slightly steeper than the take away but we'll within the ball target line. Many players of his day took it back well inside then was over that line but it wasn't over the top swing that everyone wants about. Now they want you to take it back outside and come down more inside, his and other greats of his day had through swings that approached the ball from the inside. Both methods there is a slight loop and both methods attack from the inside. One instructor called his swing and Sam Snead Ott, I had to laugh if the swing attacks from inside the ball line it's absolutely not Ott.
I teach Hogan to this day (to those just getting started) because it plants a seed of understanding about the cause and effects in golf. That understanding, in my humble opinion, is more important than anything else. People will usually adapt as necessary to their own personal build and capabilities but they do so more effectively with a solid basic understanding of the dynamics of the club and ball relationship
There is a need for more instructors like you...
The ole pop stroke. Still effective for sure. People (like me) can get waaayyyy too technical and unnatural. The goal is to get the ball in the hole and there are many ways of doing that. Love this one.
I'm very glad you enjoyed the video! Cheers! 🙂
Bobby was strong in all depts, driver, irons (all), chipping,pitching, putting and his mind. The fact he won all those majors and retired at age of twenty eight years old while going months without touching a club and usually won the tournament is mind boggling he was practicing law two years before he retired. Over forty % win rate is astounding.
Love this stuff. I still have the Bobby Jones instructional VHS and his book.
Me too! - I received the Box Set (2 VHS Videos/Book) as a Christmas gift. Had to be the early 90s. ???
Love this. Thanks for sharing! Not exactly what they teach you to do nowadays, but it's so cool to see this history. I'm reading The Grand Slam by Mark Frost right now, so hearing Jones's voice helps to round out the whole feel of that era.
I'm so glad you enjoyed the video. Cheers! 🙂
I use this stroke and this exact Calamity Jane putter and it is devastating.
Love it!🙂
I dont care what they say about modern fast greens. This stroke works. Forward press and pull the trigger.
Yes, sir! Educated hands...
It really does, it's my belief that putting is the most natural part of the game and you can either judge it well or you cant. If you cant then locking yourself up and following modern advice may help cut down huge mistakes - if you can then it really makes no difference what you do.
This is the perfect lesson for putting. 😊
Mike, I love your taste in caps! Check out the Stetson Hatteras Cashmere/Silk Flat Cap Made in Germany. They wear like iron and look better with age. I have a gray and a brown and wear them all the time. They are a bit expensive, but well worth it! The quality is unbelievable! Cheers!🙂
Here's the cap I'm talking about: www.amazon.com/Stetson-Hatteras-Cashmere-Silk-Flat/dp/B0079IUL9Q/ref=asc_df_B0079IUL9Q/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=550156420535&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1153828289102527104&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033604&hvtargid=pla-531851472371&psc=1
Uh, no, it may have been 80 years ago, but no longer.
@@batswbennett 1931
Interesting. I already have my thumbs like that, but not the alternate overlap. I'll try that.
I think you will learn to appreciate the reverse-overlap grip for putting. Very few high-level players use the same grip for putting that they use for their full swing. Cheers! 🙂
Regarding your transcript notes, I believe Phil Mickelson also slightly loosens his upper hand grip on the backswing (especially with the driver), and regrips as he starts down. Haven't seen him swing recently so I don't know if he still has that tendency, but over the years his wayward drives certainly contributed to "Phil the Thrill"!!
I wouldn't be shocked if he had done this earlier in his career, but you won't see it any longer. The last eight or 10 years he has put in considerable time to tighten up his swing.
Agree about Mickelson, but Trevino regripped the club throughout his career.
Put bobby Jones on a 14 stimp green and you'd have Cam Smith.
Absolutely! I'm sure he could figure out what to do...
1931 this man played better golf that I admire
Clearly one of the greatest players of all time...
1930 you mean - year of the grand slam
Putting technique has certainly gotten a lot better over the years!
It has changed, that's for sure!
Everyone will be back wrist putting decades from now and insisting thats right - golf is full of pointless teaching fads
@@poocrayon4588 I really doubt that. A wristy putting stroke has no benefit.
@@Somefatdude it has benifet when your stroke is almost all wrist just as much as almost all arm. Your more capable of making fine movements with wrist and fingers than whole body/upper body. If your naturally good at putting it really doesnt matter. If you suck youll still such with modern teqnique.
Of all golf tips putting syle is the most overrated of them all.
@@poocrayon4588 a wristy stroke is less consistent, which is a data-proven fact, so no, I don’t agree with your position. Go look at gears or Sam putt lab data. Wristy strokes have more face rotation, less consistent arc, less consistent face to path, and less consistent speed control.
Cam Smith has a watered down version of this stroke.
Fair assessment. 👍
I’d say more developed
@@Longarmshortarm certainly, for today's conditions.
Jones has the club in his fingers much like a Faxon or Crenshaw, whereas many today are taught to grip it in the lifelines. What are your thoughts on fingers vs lifelines?
@@maxwatson6953 I think if you are a feel putter, you must hold it in your fingers. Cam Smith is a feel putter. So was Locke and Jones. It's hard to gauge distance with your shoulders. It's why you hold a dart in your fingers, not in your palm. There is a putting method using the shoulders which is more mechanical and for this you want the grip more in the palms. I think the secret to great putting might be holding the grip in the fingers - why? Because distance control is more important than line and, like throwing marbles an exact distance, you must use your fingers.
Don’t putt like Bobby Jones.
Not much of that pertains to today's greens, they are much faster. Not mention we have way more putting styles, claw, left hand low, belly putters, etc.
Hi Jim, did you read the description... ???