Shoei GT Air II and Sena SRL 2 - Install & Review
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
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The Shoei GT-Air II is a great touring helmet, but match it with the SRL2 audio system from Sena and it becomes a fantastic touring helmet. I like to use comms units, but having something bolted to the side of your helmet isn't ideal, particularly from a safety point of view. In this video, I show you how to install the components and then run through their use and performance.
*The audio does get quieter from 03:44 onwards. I had a problem where it sounds fine in Final Cut Pro, but is quiet when exported. Sadly I couldn't find a solution and this is the best I could do*
Buy your Sena SRL 2 here - tinyurl.com/senaSRL2
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Really enjoyed this. I have got a GT air 2 and I love it, looking to get some bluetooth connectivity for GPS etc and wasn't quite sure about this unit until now! Has made up my mind. Thank you.
Nice video, I was on the fence about this system, but after viewing this video I went ahead and ordered the Sena SRL for my Shoei GT Air II
Thanks it'll be good to hear what you think of it. The integration is really good
Very good review as always, I love the GT Air 2 great helmet, best review on the sena on UA-cam I’ve seen, think I am having to get one now. Good stuff 👍
Cheers Johnny
Had this exact combo about a year now (after my friend bought it) and thoroughly recommend it.
Clearer and louder than the cardo unit I had previously.
Battery lasts all day too. 👍
Thanks for this, great review. made my mind up on next helmet and sena.
Glad I could help!
I am getting this helmet and bluetooth unit soon, this video was very clear about the installation, good work.
Glad it helped
I have the GT 2 Air and love it. Great fit, view, and it just feels great overall.
Be careful with the installation of each part of the harness, e.g. it's best to plug the mic socket into the speaker socket BEFORE plugging the speaker into its recess else you may break the tiny socket when it's already in the narrow and shallow channel. Also, the two antenna triangles don't just "snap into place", they have to be slid up from below the helmet else the two retaining tabs could break if you try to snap it in from the side.
Great helmet so far! I just baught it after my schuberth c3pro. Of course they are in different categories but shoei make me feel much much more comfy!
Its a great helmet if it fits you nicely, i've worn this a lot over the last year or so
I do like your helmet reviews Tony.
They're always clear and as unsubjective as can be made.
Nice one - carry on the great work fella.
You're one of the few YTers I'd consider Patreoning if you ever go for that.
Thanks Nigel, glad you like the reviews. I did set up a patreon account a while ago, but I’m not sure how i feel about it, so havent pushed or promoted it. People can always www.buymeacoffee.com/xH38lFEmu if they like the content :)
@@mancavemoto Have a latte on me mate
Nigel Tabb thanks Nigel, very kind of you!
Nice work. Simple and to the point!
cheers
Great review - excellent detail and video references.
Glad it was helpful!
That’s a really neat job, I’d be so tempted to spend all that extra money if I had the GTAir 2.
I think it’s worth it
Awesome, very helpful just got
Mine.
Really good review. Thank you.
my pleasure
New to the channel and that was very well shot and described. Straight and to the point no bs. 👍🏼
Thanks Bradley, that’s what I aim for?
Another excellent presentation! Only my second one to listen to so far same sitting. Thank you! Now, I don't want to pay anywhere close to $150 & up for a very reasonable blue tooth, so what can you recommend for a very budgeted USN Veteran?!?
The system looks easy to fit but I'd be concerned about the lack of adjustability on the speaker position. I usually find I have to move speakers further forward and a bit lower to accurately centre on my ear canal, which makes a huge difference to the volume and sound quality.
Theres quite a big radius on the speaker, so it might be OK?
Hi. Thank you for the review but I want to learn how is the operation on riding time ? Is it easy or do we need to take care more than others like 30K ?
Battery life is much the same, I’ve no issues with it so far
Cant seem to get the speakers to click in to their recessed holes . Any ideas ?
It’s fixed! Did you reshoot it or was it a different issue?
Either way, thanks for the review. I’m coming up for a new lid next year. How was the wind noise?
Yep, it sounded fine in Final Cut Pro, but something odd was happening when I exported it. I changed some audio settings and re rendered it (3 times!) and although its a little quiet in that section at least I don’t sound like a Dalek now. Wind noise is pretty good, not the quietest helmet view tried, but pretty good
Love the modular aspect of the helmet but the sound quality of the SRL-2 is mediocre at best, not to mention the static.
thx very much for the detailed review. could you say anything concerning wet stability / usability and duration of the battery / unit while using (standby & use e.g. radio)
No problem in the wet, and i've had the unit last all day when switched on with no issues, even using it for sat nav instructions
I have custom made earplugs, and planning buying ones with integrated earphones, however these comms don't have a headphone jack which is a real shame... I just bought this helmet because it was on offer and I know its good, however I can't buy these comms if I want to do the set up I'm talking about. I've always found the sound of my current comms (cardo scala) to be very low when wearing my custom earplugs. Not sure what you think. I'll most likely end up buying the Sena SF4-01 which has a headphone jack, however I'll miss out on the integration...
Nice videos BTW, subscribed
Yes that is a drawback of the integrated system. I have set of custom moulded monitor earplugs and used them with my Sena 30k, the benefit is still getting rid of the harsh external noise, but also being able to turn the comms down to a very low level and still getting clear audio. I also have a pair of 'ported' moulded plugs that cut noise levels at 30db instead of 35db. They work well with comms speakers too, although I've never had an issue with the SRL2 and my earplugs tbh
How would you say is the audio quality music-wise I muy admit I am a little spoiled with the audio quality of the Bose qc20 which are noise cancelling but not expecting that in the helmet though, but still is listening to music loud enough and pleasant?
Yes definitely, obs nowhere near the Bose, but it’s still a decent sound
Thank you!!
The instructions were about as much use as a blind guide dog.
Now fitted thanks to this video. ...
Glad it helped!
Another kind of question here. If i ride mainly with the same person how do i connect to that person? And also, do i need to push a button before speaking or do i just speak and the set senses me talking and swithing on/connecting to other person?
Good questions. When connectign to another rider you both put your comms in pairing mode and they connect. You can set up a number of linkd devices with the app, so that connection is almost automatic going forward. Once you have an active connection you can just speak with the other person as you would do normally. Just like being on a constantly open phone call.
How do you charge the battery? Can you easily remove the battery to charge it or do you have to charge it while still installed in the helmet?
You install whilst on the helmet, there’s a little rubber cover for the charging port. 👍
What kind of gloves are you wearing?
Do you know the difference between the SRL2 and the first generation Srl?
I'm not sure there is any difference in the internals, just the casing etc?
THANK YOU!!!
You're welcome!
Hi are you also wearing ear plugs if so what is the volume like, can you plug in earplug speakers instead.
Yes I wear silicone moulded earplugs and no problems with the sound. There’s no provision on the sRL to plug external headphones in
Hi mate , do you wear earplugs ? Just wondered about sound quality if wearing them ? I just bought GT air 2 but have custom earplugs which plug in to current intercom ... cheers
Yes I wear custom moulded earplugs, and have no issues hearing the intercom
Views from the Man Cave That’s good to hear and thanks for the review 👍🏻
Dude. I have a question. When you wear the helmet for a long time, the padding gets used to the shape of your head. My question is this. Have you felt a weirdness in the padding, after you let someone(say your friend) wear your helmet? Thanks.
Never let anyone else wear your helmet! 😂 I can honestly say that i haven’t encountered that problem, mainly because I’ve never had anyone wear my helmet, other than maybe a quick try on. Makes sense that it could happen
@@mancavemoto . So why don't let others wear your helmet? Just curious!
@@tanakayamada9857 I didn't say I wouldnt, i just haven't....
How many non-sena devices can it connect to? As in if I had 4 friends all using different Comms units, would it work?
It should connect to up to four devices regardless of make
is there a bluetooth device I can pair with my GoPro Hero 10 into the Sena SRL2?
Not that I’m aware of. Sena used to make a ‘bluetooth’ back for the GoPro Hero 3 which meant you could record audio from your Comms straight to the GoPro, but i think that option disappeared as the gopros advanced. That’s not to say there isn’t a solution out there, I just haven’t found it
what is the audio quality for music like & is it loud enough with earplugs in?
Audio quality is pretty decent, they’re no Bose but the clarity is good. Plenty loud enough
There's a Bose helmet system?
@@phillipsandusky3795 no I was just making a comparison to bose headphones
Hi and thanks for making this video. Why does this Sena unit need a battery pack unit? I have a Sena 10S unit which obviously needs charging but it has no battery pack so I’m wondering what the difference is? Thanks in advance...
Its because of the form of the unit, the control in the SRL needs to be small to fit in the side housing, so they move the battery pack to an external location. The 10s is a bigger unit so the battery pack can stay in the main unit of the device.
@@mancavemoto Thank you! The penny dropped for me after I posted this so I feel a bit stupid for asking (doh!) but thanks for taking time out to reply.
@@mancavemoto The placement of the battery at the rear is also to keep the addition of the comms unit balanced in terms of weight. One could consider that a nice side effect of needing compact components, but I've also heard, the Shoei and Sena engineers wanted to keep the weight balanced.
How is wind noise inside the helmet in higher speeds?
Pretty good, depending on what your riding of course
So you use custom earplugs that plug into the slr2 or are they just custom foam plugs to stuff out white noise? Wondering about sound quality?
They are custom moulded silicone plugs. I have a pair that are rated at 30db attenuation and a filtered pair at 23db (which I tend to use with helmet comms) I also have a pair which plug into my Sena 30k and have great sound along with blocking the nasty frequencies
My shoei neoyec 2 is from production 2017 is it possible to use the srl 2 or only the srl 1
Sadly the SRL2 only appears to be compatible with a Neotec 2 helmet made after march 2019
Views from the Man Cave thank you very much
Sorry can you tell me how to connect helmet to GoPro….Ive got the setup to helmet as in senna SRL2 and was wondering how to connect GoPro
There is still no way to connect Sena comms units to a GoPro, unless its the GoPro 3 or 4 with the SENA GP10 bluetooth back.
Hi there, wheats the sound quality like? Also how do you charge/ change the batteries please? It almost looks like you have to disassemble the whole thing to charge it.
Sound quality isn’t too bad, pretty decent. To charge you just plug a lead into the port on the battery compartment of the helmet, no need to take anything apart 👍
@@mancavemoto Awesome, thank you.
I have a problem. I wish to update the software on my Sena SRL2 using the USB cable connected to one of the main USB ports on my iMac. When I connect it, the SRL won't switch on so the system isn't recognised. Do you have a solution for me? Thanks very much 👍
Ok, thats weird nornally when plugged in the Sena Device manager software normally picks it up and connects. Have you tried reinstalling the device manager?
@@mancavemoto Thanks for replying. In the meantime, I’ve managed to get it working 👍
Does the sena intercom come with the helmet or is it a separate purchase
It’s a separate purchase, although some retailers were offering bundle deals
Just got mine and I’m surprised that battery pack has no solod click position in the helmet. Not sure if this was designed like that, but yes im very disappointed.. I expected solid mechanism that will hold the bat pack in the helmet, not just some rubber in the back part..
Mine clicked in, there’s a tab that locks it into place. The rubber bung just covers the charging port....
Ok,…. that was weird. I see no comment about the massive audio drop out recording to the GoPro from around the 5:15 mark in this video. This is not a good advert for the system. Am I missing something here, or does my own audio just keep dropping out at the same time everytime I reply this review?
There is a small change in the audio at that point. The Bluetooth connection with the old GP-10 system never produced particularly good audio with any set up really. It was convenient but never allowed for satisfactory audio In reality. It was also not good at demonstrating the quality of the audio over comms. As far as your comment about your own audio dropping out, I don’t see what your getting at, have you commented before?
Hey, can you hear that high frequency noise in the helmet or is that just coming through on the video?
Just on the video I guess, I cant hear it in the helmet, or to be honest in the video. The noise may be at your end
i as well heard the really loud ringing that is indeed annoying hope not in helmet
Pity that one cannot upgrade the speakers short of cutting wires and soldering in new speakers. At least Cardo has a 3.5MM jack one can plug better speakers into. Or ear buds.
After I installed the intercom system the wind noise is very very annoying. Anyone else with the same issue?
Not something I noticed
Does this set works for shoei nxr2 as well?
No, just this helmet
Hows the sound quality for music?
Pretty decent to be honest
So my question is simple. I'm hearing a lot about just comms. Please tell me you can listen to your music on this bad boy? Thanks for responding.
Yes of course!
GoPro 10 with media mod? Ive got that setup but helmet mounted ….where’s your cable?
10’or 9 as they both fit the same media mod. That’s set up on my RYD helmet and I plug in a Rode Lavalier mic straight into the media mod. I don’t use the GT air II for filming
Apologies …we’ve spoken before . Now i understand . I didn’t see your reply from months ago..my fault. Lol
Can I fit my sena 50s to this?????
I have seen them fitted yes, they would maybe sit a bit further back than you would do normally.
Step 1, I lost the special tool to pop off the side pods plate. Now what?
You can carefully use a flat blade screwdriver
You never touched on what's involved in recharging? Now I would have to bring my whole helmet along to recharge? Nice helmet but as the owner of a GT Air 1 with a Sena S20 it would mean having to spend 1200.00 to replace what I have. The fact you can't plug headphones in is another issue.
It’s an integrated unit, so you plug the charging lead into the port of the battery pack.
so you can’t pair up with other riders with this setup?
i just bought both the helmet and this SLR snd its not capable of communicating with other riders?
this sucks
No, it does connect with other riders, thats the whole point. you can have up to 8 units connected in a group
Is Sena voice control still crap ? Cardo seems to have the superior device.
Its getting better, but I agree I think Cardo is more responsive
I just bought the Shoei........ pricey, but a quality lid, so worth it. However, the sena unit is waaaaaaaaay overpriced, you are paying a *very* hefty premium for it's custom fit for that lid, but Sena seems to come a distant 2nd to Cardo in most reviews and, as you say...not even a jog dial.
First rate lid with a nice fitting, but 2nd rate comms. You can buy exactly the same internal electronics in a chinese comm unit on Amazon for less than £50......with jog wheel, too. You are paying over £200 simply for the custom fitting. The Sena needs to be £100 cheaper, and even then they would be making a tasty profit!
hello i hope you don't mind a question? have you managed to fit other bluetooth units to this helmet? i like my gt air but it's time to replace - i only occasionally use bluetooth comms (which i borrow) - i'm just about to purchase the gt air 2, wondering if other bluetooth units will fit. thanks!
I haven't tried, but there is still room on the side, albeit it might be a little further forward or back than you'd want
I have the Neotec 2 with the Sena 1 intercom and I (personally) find it wanting. The jog dial is far superior to the crappy buttons, which I can never seem to get right and have difficulty finding with gloves on! I know you know what I mean. The Neotec 2 is also quite a noisy helmet which is a shame. I want to consider the GT-AIR 2 but fear my time is up with Shoei after hearing mixed reports on the GT2’s noise levels. And why are there two comms units (sena 1&2)? Grrrrrrr! Thank for the vid!
Is it just me, or was the microphone audio crap?
The drawback was that it was connected to an old GoPro Hero 3 via a GP10 bluetooth unit. The audio quality on calls and with other riders is crystal clear
So what are you recording to now?
I record directly to a GoPro via a media mod
@@mancavemoto can you show how youve connected media mod please. Didn’t think this was possible to integrate the sena with a GoPro
Sorry I wasn’t very clear, I’m recording straight to the gopro with a wired mic, not via the Sena.
@@mancavemoto cant see any wires….must be very concealed.
Can't hear you on the bike.
There was some audio issues in FCP as I mention in the description from 03:44 the audio is a little quieter......
Battery life ??
It'll last all day with no problem
All is great on this combo, as far as your review went, but you didn't play music, these speakers have 0 base, I mostly listen to country and I still find I would like a little more base, if you listen to hip hop or any music with any sort of base I think you will be really upset with the music quality at that price. With modern speakers as they are they really could have done better here.
To be honest it wasn't a priority for me. Whilst i do occassionsally listen to music when I ride, I don't expect to get the same experience I would with the kind of headphones I'd wear ro enjoy music. These are plenty good enough I think. Deep base generally requires bigger and therefor thicker drivers, which all takes up space. Riding in traffic with 'thumping bass' is I don't think a great idea.
If the machine need charge, we will take the whole helmet to room. Anyone will take off the machine to charge it?
It’s easier to charge it in place
Can the speakers be upgraded?
I don’t think they can. Sena recently released some new High Definition speakers, but the SRL 2 isn’t on the list of compatible devices
I purchased the helmet, which was fantastic, However the SENA SRL2, was terrible. i also own the SENA 30 and it is far superior to this unit. The static in the speakers was horrible, and the speaker system sucks. when on my bike i can barely hear my music, and i cant even hear my phone ring at all.
That’s not good to hear (no pun intended) I’ve not had any of those problems in the time I’ve been using it. The unit still performs well. Might be worth checking the unit out and getting in touch with Sena, as it could be faulty?
The sound has a lot of parasites
This is a big drawback
This expensive little thing should have had a better sound indeed
No noise cancellation ?
The product its nicely done but sena it self its crap useless mine its stuck i cant even reset wont turn off i would not recommend this product sena its the worse company out there this is the second one i replaced from warranty look like another one now
Its a shame that you had these issues. I've had several Sena units and haven't had any hardware issues with them
Worse Bluetooth on the market
Lol just as you talk about the microphone it starts sounding like shit
The problem was the crappy way it was connected to the GoPro!
@@mancavemoto Ok
The installation process has a big mistake or a few seconds of video are missing. After clicking in the side parts and inserting the cheek pieces, suddenly all cables are gone. Why don't you explain this exactly? The cables have to go around the plastic rails between lining and helmet. But how does nobody explain. Thumbs down
Nope no mistake, you'll notice that I mention tucking the wires away before putting the cheek pads in. I showed it on one side, and to save some time didn't show the other side, which is exactly the same. I gave people watching the credit that they'd be smart enough to work that out. But thanks for the thumbs down anyway.
Oh, and the sneezing at the end, after the non-critical and therefore unhelpful review ... gross ... yeah, 'no subscribo, segnor'!
So a review is only helpful if you criticise or slag off a product? Well that’s not my style, I give honest unbiased balanced feedback in all my reviews. No subscribe, no problem...
Take 2 Midol..It will sound much better for you Mate!
This is a terrible review ... not thought out at all, and/or too favourable/biased. This combo is the maybe not the worst of both worlds, but it IS (at best) second-rate and overpriced on both fronts ...
When you say combo, i am assuming you meant the helmet as well? This helmet is the best i have used mate, nothing comes close to it at all,,yes...what helmet do you use if you dont mind me asking?
Where is your review?