I think there is going to be some pretty systemic changes to the army. That is probably the most prudent course. I had some Tomb Blades I was about to make, but I have them on hold as I don't want to magnetize. I can wait until october to finalize them.
@@klinktastic I've also got a pile of Tomb Blades but I figure I'm going to magnetize them regardless and not worry about it much. Given that most of the rest of my Necrons are pretty slow it doesn't hurt to have options :)
I 100% agree here. Outside a theme with dynasty and unit we have all the rules for I won't be touching anything until the codex.. becides models I just wanna hobby with. As someone said I believe crons will have a overhaul and buying stuff based off the old codex is a bad move right now. Plus for me, I love the new models and alway hated the Cron vehicles, like I don't wanna paint and build an ark and I won't lol. So could be biased but I'm certainly waiting. Oh except 3 more Skorpekh destroyers, love cc and love the models !
I’m Gonna grab some bits that I just think look cool. But core army I will wait too as they could be getting new models so would be annoyed if I brought them all and new stuff was out!
Triarch Stalker earns my solid recommendation. The leaked stat line has improved, can fire its heat ray in combat, no longer suffers -1 to hit when moving and gives the whole army reroll 1s on whatever it shoots at that turn. A great unit to support your force whilst also having the wounds and shields to take and hold an objective
Definitely this, although it is more or less the first thing he talks about...I think we can safely assume that things like transports will remain important in 9th.
already been some leaked sheets showing some buffs for existing units, looking good so far. Waiting for new heavy destroyers, monolith, MAYBE Void Dragon here. I am speculating that immortals will be buffed to a multiwound unit since the warriors got improved quite a bit
From a competitive point of view, which is a lot of what this channel is about, I couldn't agree more. Wait for the Codex to drop and then you can better plan your expansion. From a perspective of someone that's more of a hobbyist or collector then I'd consider some of the newer models coming out ESP. if you like the aesthetic of the Indomitus box ... those should be up your alley.
I don't think we should think strictly in terms of competitiveness, Necrons (and rest of Xenos) don't come with keyword anyway. Waiting for Codex is also kind of pointless, since we're already halfway through 2020 and CA 21 may address some initial flaws.
@@lokalnyork this is a poor mindset. Don't bother playing any games if you think like that because you'll just do poorly anyways because you already have the belief of you gonna lose due to a keyword. So for you maybe which sounds strictly as a hobbyist. Thinking like that is anti-competitive. Pretty much it's a excellent idea to wait for the codex if you are interested in building a list because that has the vital information. Right now we know very little.
I had 20 old warriors and indomitus and so built the indomitus ones with reapers and used the 20 spare gauss flayers on the old kit and added some battle damage. its hard to tell the difference
As a Necron player I usually have a HUGE bone to pick when others make purchase recommendations. Given your qualifiers though [no big $ expenditures, wait for codex, etc.] I think your choices are solid. Doomsday Arks / Ghost Arks [magnetize the model] are solid options as they fill two holes in the Indomitus box as you mentioned. I'm not super wild about the old Start-Collecting-Necrons box as the aesthetics clash and there is a lot of overlap with what Indomitus has --- only new things are 5 Immortals and a magnetizable vehicle.
Found a Necron battleforce box at a going out of business sale print on box says 2011, comes with 20 warriors, 5 immortals, 5 scarabs, 1 Ghost Ark/Doomsday barge for $68 usd. Also have a Indomitus box on order. Think with the two I’ll have a good Necron force for practice games and teaching/ introducing friends and others interested in hobby and gaming.
I'm just excited for the mephrit +3" Is gonna make blobs more deadly, with the smaller board (I think) Honestly I'm excited to see what wargear is going to be for our characters. Just veil of darkness and 10 blaster immortals or 20 warriors has got me giddy The skorpek lord makes me WANT to buy but destroyers (but imma wait) Overall it feels like this slow behemoth army has gotten better movement tricks, and I'm excited to see where it takes us....
I think Sautek with 18" rapid fire range is going to be interesting. Flayers rapid at 18" and Reapers rapid a 14" could be a wakeup call for someone sleeping on the warriors.
As an aside, I think (personally) just running an extra patrol for all the characters is going to help. It feels like the necron army is built on being "okay" and then buffing with characters to up the damage. It seems that a patrol with overlord and cryptec & Patrol with lord and warden will be the way I will be running MOST of my lists. Just so many rerolls and potential. Am excited to see if the new skorpek lord will be as good as I think he is, aka good enough to take a slot away from the " core characters "
The Cryptek also applies its support aura for reanimation protocols to the Plasmancer due to the wording of the aura, having them together in the force can be really powerful.
YOU'VE READ MY MIND! just yesterday I got my second indomitus box, and I reeaaally regret selling the necron part from the first one...the sculpts are sooo glorious, for the second I selling a couple of SM HQs but Im keeping the necrons, which I had never really been a fan of before but damn this minis are good and the indomitus is sucha great discount Im keeping em. So I really was looking for where to expand from here, but I'll take my time, my next buys will be for my death guard that I've been neglecting for a while now
should definitely play them, new player in general here and knew i wanted necrons when i saw the indomius contents. Played first game with them and it was fun. A lot more fun than my Tau so far Good thing is since not many necron players out there people selling necron units out of the indomitus box for cheap
I ended up picking up both the Start Collecting Necrons, and Start Collecting Admech to go with my Forgebane box just before the pandemic, now neither boxes are available, quite lucky!
If they get rid of the older Destroyers I will be pissed. When the Silent King drops there has to be some interaction with the Triarch units. What that is we will have to see.
I imagine we get lokhust and skorphekh each will have a lord a normal a heavy and something you can add in your nprmal unit, but lokhust will be able to bring that something aka heavy gauss cannon destroyer seperate
@@themanbehindtheslaughter7633 i think i discused this with u on the datasheet video but i agree. As long as my destroyer models arnt obsolete then its all good
If you didn't have Indomitus, and don't mind the older look & feel, the Necrons start collection box was a good starting point. DDAs can be magnetized to also serve as Ghost Arks so great move there. As an add-on to Indomitus I think DDAs would be my next pick if I bought pre-codex.
I’m grabbing those doomstalkers. They look super cool and give me the big guns I need! I also grabbed some more warriors, and more skorpekh partially because I like the models and partially because there is a chance their unit size gets increased.
I personally recommend a Doomsday ark over a Doomstalker if you dont already have one, the DDA has way higher range and puts out a considerable amount of damage, the doomstalker is only really good if you are going for an assault army.
@@dariuschoksy6934 same man the arks are ass models. It's fine for competitive because most those people would buy the guys with there bum hanging out their pants but would *still buy cause it's the best in slot lol. So get those guys I'll be doing the same 👌. Also some talk they should have melee profile and I agree but now I think they can shoot in melee because they don't have blast weapons. Could be pretty good.
Glad I got one of those Start Collecting Necron boxes a few months ago. Wish I would have bought Felthius and the Tainted Cohort for my DG Kill Team before they disappeared.
I just hope reanimation protocols get seriously buffed otherwise necrons are still going to feel bad. reanimation protocols should absolutely define the army and not be easily circumvented by just focusing down one unit at a time.
Agreed. Ideally it should happen per model being destroyed, like a final save roll. I'm honestly expecting something like that. Knowing GW though they'll just keep it the same but it succeeds on a 4+ instead of 5+ and they'll think we should be happy about it. 🙄
The good thing about the plasmancer is he has cryptek rules so he effects re animation protocols plus he has harbinger of destruction which is basically smite.
Personally I have some regret in expanding my Destroyer forces [standard, heavy, and Lord] in light of the new models coming out. I'm hoping that GW's official stance will be that the old & new models represent the same UNIT choice. Then all I would need to do is change the base size if & as needed.
As someone who plays necrons with two blobs of destroyers, I feel you. It's been such a core unit in the crons for a long time so hopefully they won't just legends it.
What are your thoughts on getting a second set of Necrons from the Indomitus box to expand the army in a more casual way, since they are very cheap on ebay?
TL/DR: If you're new to Necrons then it should be a decent START but you'd still need to add stuff to be competitive. Details: You could get a 1400-1500 point core army pretty quickly with two Indomitus halves. I doubt that Warriors, Scarabs, or Melee-Destroyers will be garbage-tier once the new codex hits. You could then see what the codex has in store so you could add in some points / synergy efficient anti-vehicle/monster and anti-super-heavy-infantry units to the mix.
@@erutherford Thanks for the detailed reply, appreciated! I'm coming back to 40K after a long break (stopped at 4th Ed.) and already have an SM army, so I'm considering keeping the other halves of the boxes to (re)start a Necron army. Got already some Destroyers/Heavy Destroyers (but I can see these disappear completely), some Tomb Spyder (I guess these also disappeared by now) a Nightbringer, and a Monolith. I think I'll keep the Necrons halves and wait until the Codex releases to see how I move forward with this :)
I'd say no. Just slowly get the stuff you want, wait for a start collecting box or go on eBay and pick the units you like from indomitus for a decent price.
Im gona be sad if destroyers get changed coz im currently halfway through painting mine. Also to note that more than half of the necron kits are not available online atm
I would say get 9 Tomb Blades and 6 Wraiths because they are always good. 1 Cryptek, 3 Arks Magnetized, 1 Stalker, 1 Deceiver Shard and 1 Nightbringer. Hold off on everything else till the codex releases. You will want to drop the Royal Warden as it sucks. Indomitus has too many HQs and not enough Killy stuff.
Nah wraiths gonna lose that 3+ invul save. They got a 3+ save now no way they keeping the other. No idea how they will preform but I won't be touching them untill codex.
Cool video, I just have a few questions about whether these miniatures would be worth adding to the Indomitus Necrons: Wraiths Immortals/Deathmarks Illuminor Szeras Tomb Blades Spyders Doom Scythe Or should I wait until October to see what Games Workshop brings out with the new Codexes?
If you're into Necrons for the hobby aspect then get any models that you want to assemble & paint. If you're more into competitive then I'd definitely wait until October. Out of your list the safest models are likely Immortals. Illuminor Szeras doesn't seem to do much currently but the model is almost cool enough looking to buy anyway ... LOL. In the right Dynasty ... one that gives objective secured -- I would think Tomb Blades would be OK. I'm skeptical about the rest of the units as they've got LOTS of competition in slot or have had what currently appears to be nerfs.
@@erutherford Thank you, I am not a competitive player I just play with friends now due to Mr. Covid-19 who has shut down most clubs in my area. Also, I am new to Necrons and all I have so far is two halves of the Indomitus box of Necrons.
Then definitely the models you still enjoy building and hobbying and ofc just make sure if you want a detachment or patrol just sync up the units correctly. But you can fill those roles with the units you like. I think all those are cool choices but I think wraith and tomb blade is fast attack so just be mindful of you want smaller units you may only be able to field 1-2 or 2-3. You'll have to check your core book o don't list build but these the basics.
But out of the two if definitely go tomb blades over wraiths. Unless they get changed alot in the codex they gonna be still really good. I'd still say please wait for codex 😅 don't need to be competitive but everyone atleast wants there army to synergize abit and we need the codex for that
Hey guys, I want to keep this army 1000pnts. What would be good to switch out and in? I think the reanimator is the weakest unit in here and I would like to somehow make room for the new heavy destroyer since it looks so badass and also provides something this army doesn't do yet. (I'm a casual player btw)
@@erutherford Chaos really need the boon. 1 wound Death Guard or Noise marines when weighted how they are points wise are just crap. Hopefully everything else gets similar treatment
@@jesot Potentially, yes. But given how points changes typically sees running just a battalion and shying away from separate detachments from CP hits, very rare is this guy going to make it in the top 3 for characters you're actually going to take.
TBH getting 2nd Necron half, third Plasmancer (and maybe Skorpekh Lord, he's a beast and hopefully his buff will apply to ALL kinds of Destroyers), and third Destroyer unit seem like good idea IF You have Indomitus box (if not, WTF are you even doing, it's amazing deal!) I got basically that (and few other things, seem like people are selling Overlords and Reanimators for cheap so I got third of those too. I'll use them for conversion into Doomstalkers) and now I'm waiting for ANY info about Start Collecting (another great deal). If it's Shadowspear-like affair then You probably can get it's content (necron half, minus Overlord and Royal Guard, since they come on sprue with SM) for cheaper from Indomitus scalpels anyhow. I personally hope for Ghost Ark, +10-20 Warriors (or 10 warriors + 5 Immortals/Peaetorians) and most likely Cryptek for HQ as we had Overlord/CCB already.MAYBE new Destroyer too, if GW feels generous. That would give pretty nice force with almost all slots filled. That is, if they won't f&ck up.Don't f&ck up this GW. As for regular Destroyers, I think GW will stop selling them and slowly phase out them (get it, they're Necrons!) into legends, probably not in this book but most likely in next 4-8 years, in next edition and Codex.
I'd prefer to see GW state that the old style Destroyer models can be used as the new units as long as the base sizes match. Still I think there's a decent chance they'll go the way of the dodo ... and it's too bad as they were basically 50$ for 3 models so it's an expensive model to go to legends.
Wait for the codex guys and ofc for casual and hobbyist go the rule of cool 👍. I for one love the new model asthetics and wont even be building or painting a ark no matter how strong it is lol.
It's really too bad that the Ghost Ark can't carry the following combination "troops, non-Destroyer infantry characters, and body-guard units like CryptoThralls". I agree that max-10 is a deal breaker for me.
Just picked up off ebay 2 sets of necrons from indomitus .. gonna wait till the codex then most likely buy everything anyways because i have a plastic addiction .. pls help
Wraiths are some of the coolest looking units in the game in my opinion. Painting some right now haha. Also their role in 8th was super cool. As long as they keep their 3++ save they should still be cool too. Definitely a great choice to buy for a necron unit for both flavor and viability. I have a doom scythe too and it also looks sweet but I haven't had any amazing games with it. I'm still a novice though and don't have any solid aircraft tactics. Anyways, wraiths rock (at least in 8th) and a full unit has been among my favorite to use in the game. Soup's up gtg trust the fungus.
Honestly buying new boxes seems kinda like a bad idea to me. Most of us already have plenty of Necron warriors and scarabs (from time when they had rending rule and were ultimate vehicles destroyers). The new units inside with current known rules still do not convince me to invest in them. The only thing good with new boxed sets is that the ammount of models inside can make it easy to get started for new players, especially if you have siblings that wanna give it a try (however the balance issues will make 1 side loose badly). As for the old players I guess it would be best to wait for new Codex.
Depends on the map, mission, dynasty, and role. For warriors that are going to be sitting on backline objectives I would think flayers for the 24" range esp. if you've deep-strike screened. For Warriors pushing up to midfield objectives I think reapers may be an option esp. in the "new" Sautek dynasty where you can likely get 14" rapid fire range.
Ed Rutherford thanks. I’m new, trying to pick. I did the first 10 with the long range guns. I have an old box of warriors too. Thinking I’ll build the other 10 with the rapid fire
@@jessehammil3897 I'm going to do the same as we can mix and match in a 20 man unit if we want. But flayers* (the long range ones lol) just look overall better. It's definitely the "safe" pick meaning more flexible as it looks now
Very upset to see that the Plasmancer has been struck off here. I am toying with the idea of running 3 and bringing their Crypto mates. 😀 How i do that and also take a Cryptek, Overland and S Lord though, I have no idea 😀.
honestly thinking of quitting warhammer, I'm still waiting on my pre-order box to be shipped... yes pre-order, not made to order. should have shipped the 25th of july
Email customer support. GW tends to have pretty good customer support, and it’s possible that your box just got lost in the sea of orders or something.
@@adrianreister Well if you get that triggered you need a hobby more efficient. Stick to buying in store cause these things happen online especially when a pandemic is going on. If getting a great deal is not enough then just do yourself a favour and only buy in store or get some gratitude going that you even got a pre order box that many missed out on and won't see until Christmas.
@@jakea3950 That's assuming there's a store nearby that's open to buy from... I'm neither triggered, nor feel compelled to heed advice given from someone who seems salty they didn't even get a pre-order box. I simply want what I paid for, $200+ USD is not a small sum at the moment to have unaccounted for. I don't think your definition of gratitude and mine are the same, maybe look it up cuz I think yours is wrong.
soooooo… I bought 5 regular destroyers for my Necron army. Several necron players recommended them as auto-takes for Necrons. So I'm actually hoping that we don't get a new Destroyer sculpt any time soon lol
I'd bet $ that the previewed sculpts are dropping in the next few months if not weeks. Still I have 9 old-style destroyers I can field as standard or heavy as needed. I plan to proxy as new models IF the old ones are garbage tier OR if they go to legends -- even in a box set heavy destroyers were basically 25$ US per model once you ordered the upgrade kit :(
Those Necron players are pretty basic. For advising that. Those are "auto includes" if you don't mind worrying about them all game and then getting traded out. Your looking at a 250+ pt unit for that price. Which everyone will focus on. Definitely don't listen to people on reddit..most of them are just loud babies. I suggest getting WRAITHS. They have amazing rules and offer you a front line force to hold enemies back with there 3++ and T5 Also get some of those boats. They're amazing when standing still and usually enemies don't want to target them since D6 damage weapons are terrible against them. Also don't believe the haters. C tan shards are great especially the one with 2 powers . It's like free mortal wound and a mini flying dread that can punch out small armor Definitely wait on buy a bunch of items. But WRAITHS will be amazing in 9th especially with the new missions and rules not effecting them as much ..
Ed Rutherford they only showed a “Lokherst heavy destroyer” (apologies if I got it wrong) which, from the looks of it is going to be a larger single model with its own datasheet, rather than a replacement for the older destroyers. so I figured it was safe to get the old destroyers
@@jacobjohnston3983 those models are real old I think they will be getting replaced but maybe not until later. Da though of you like the models it don't matter 👍 people are more worried they will be phased out of the game 🤣 doubtful
The necron half kinda sucks right now, we have 4 HQs and only 20 warriors, wich isn’t enough, and since the new codex isn’t out yet, we don’t know what troop to buy next
Yea. A lot of necron stuff just straight up sucks compared to other things. Maybe we have to see the army as a whole. Synergys and new stuff. The ctans need a buff imo.
about 99 ninjas you talkin about the deceiver/nightbringer shards? I think those can be really good, especially the deceiver shard... Then again, their rules could be totally changed in the new codex, i hate not knowing if my units are gonna be buffed or nerfed, makes me just want to not buy anything
@@Max78000 Honestly I think it's best to hold off until at least October before making major purchases. Then again I'd be shocked if there weren't floods of "old green rod models" out there for super cheap on the 2nd hand market so if you want to gamble and you get a stupid-good-offer then why not.
@@about99ninjas56 From what I hear from playtesters(?) is that 9th edition [codex] Necrons are VERY different from 8th edition codex Necrons. From the sneak peaks we got I could see room for space marine levels sort of synergys taking place which is something that historically Necrons haven't really had.
Personally I am focusing on my outrider and not bothering to do too much with my Necrons until the new codex drops. Wraiths are still good enough. I think you missed out not adding tomb blades they can be a really nuisance and can help with stopping your opponent getting control of the middle of the board. Drop the reanimator it is the most overpriced piece of nonsense I have seen from GW for Necrons in a long while. Keep the plasmancer though. It has the cryptek keyword. If you were to add another cryptek to the army anything within "3 of the plasmancer would get +1 to its RP rolls
Wraiths definitely going to lose the 3+ invul as they got their basic save buffed. They fine for movement but I certainly wouldn't buy any ATM if you plan on having a good list.
YOU all be thinking about expanding your indomitus box! I’m still waiting for my indomitus box. GW has done me dirty. I bet they going to give me a Chinese box with all the lies and delays they are giving me. I pre-ordered it within the first minute of going live...
Personally till they release the Codex for any of my armies not going to buy anything which as I just finished painting all the Indomitus space marines up as space wolves and the Necrons in a can use them as any scheme is a pity - not going to add to my Orks till there Codex drops either - shame as from hints the play testers have dropped they have all the Codex's just wish GW would drop all of them at the same time but I imagine it will be drip fed over the next couple of years
I wouldnt buy anything necron until we see how butchered the codex is gonna be. Dont rule out that they will somehow nerf the doomsday ark..to make room for the doomstalker.
where to go from indomitus... throw the necrons in the bin and start buying space marines because GW have made the game massively unbalanced in space marines favour?
Solid advice. I’ll see what the new codex looks like before buying anything.
I think there is going to be some pretty systemic changes to the army. That is probably the most prudent course. I had some Tomb Blades I was about to make, but I have them on hold as I don't want to magnetize. I can wait until october to finalize them.
@@klinktastic I've also got a pile of Tomb Blades but I figure I'm going to magnetize them regardless and not worry about it much. Given that most of the rest of my Necrons are pretty slow it doesn't hurt to have options :)
Ed Rutherford yeah. I just can’t get myself to magnetize them. Seems like too much work and my backlog is too deep
I 100% agree here. Outside a theme with dynasty and unit we have all the rules for I won't be touching anything until the codex.. becides models I just wanna hobby with.
As someone said I believe crons will have a overhaul and buying stuff based off the old codex is a bad move right now. Plus for me, I love the new models and alway hated the Cron vehicles, like I don't wanna paint and build an ark and I won't lol. So could be biased but I'm certainly waiting. Oh except 3 more Skorpekh destroyers, love cc and love the models !
I’m Gonna grab some bits that I just think look cool. But core army I will wait too as they could be getting new models so would be annoyed if I brought them all and new stuff was out!
Triarch Stalker earns my solid recommendation. The leaked stat line has improved, can fire its heat ray in combat, no longer suffers -1 to hit when moving and gives the whole army reroll 1s on whatever it shoots at that turn. A great unit to support your force whilst also having the wounds and shields to take and hold an objective
I would say the answer is wait for the codex. Wasting money when things can and are changing is a bad idea. Just my opinion though
Definitely this, although it is more or less the first thing he talks about...I think we can safely assume that things like transports will remain important in 9th.
already been some leaked sheets showing some buffs for existing units, looking good so far. Waiting for new heavy destroyers, monolith, MAYBE Void Dragon here. I am speculating that immortals will be buffed to a multiwound unit since the warriors got improved quite a bit
From a competitive point of view, which is a lot of what this channel is about, I couldn't agree more. Wait for the Codex to drop and then you can better plan your expansion. From a perspective of someone that's more of a hobbyist or collector then I'd consider some of the newer models coming out ESP. if you like the aesthetic of the Indomitus box ... those should be up your alley.
I don't think we should think strictly in terms of competitiveness, Necrons (and rest of Xenos) don't come with keyword anyway. Waiting for Codex is also kind of pointless, since we're already halfway through 2020 and CA 21 may address some initial flaws.
@@lokalnyork this is a poor mindset. Don't bother playing any games if you think like that because you'll just do poorly anyways because you already have the belief of you gonna lose due to a keyword.
So for you maybe which sounds strictly as a hobbyist. Thinking like that is anti-competitive.
Pretty much it's a excellent idea to wait for the codex if you are interested in building a list because that has the vital information. Right now we know very little.
I had 20 old warriors and indomitus and so built the indomitus ones with reapers and used the 20 spare gauss flayers on the old kit and added some battle damage. its hard to tell the difference
I don't even care if the Reanimator is weak atm. I will take my gorgeous tall boi to the field and like it, because I just loved his look from day 1.
I always just buy models for fun. I'm not really all that competitive with Warhammer, so I just get things I like the look of.
You are a gem. An invaluable resource. Bless you.
As a Necron player I usually have a HUGE bone to pick when others make purchase recommendations. Given your qualifiers though [no big $ expenditures, wait for codex, etc.] I think your choices are solid. Doomsday Arks / Ghost Arks [magnetize the model] are solid options as they fill two holes in the Indomitus box as you mentioned. I'm not super wild about the old Start-Collecting-Necrons box as the aesthetics clash and there is a lot of overlap with what Indomitus has --- only new things are 5 Immortals and a magnetizable vehicle.
Found a Necron battleforce box at a going out of business sale print on box says 2011, comes with 20 warriors, 5 immortals, 5 scarabs, 1 Ghost Ark/Doomsday barge for $68 usd. Also have a Indomitus box on order. Think with the two I’ll have a good Necron force for practice games and teaching/ introducing friends and others interested in hobby and gaming.
I'm just excited for the mephrit +3"
Is gonna make blobs more deadly, with the smaller board (I think)
Honestly I'm excited to see what wargear is going to be for our characters.
Just veil of darkness and 10 blaster immortals or 20 warriors has got me giddy
The skorpek lord makes me WANT to buy but destroyers (but imma wait)
Overall it feels like this slow behemoth army has gotten better movement tricks, and I'm excited to see where it takes us....
I think Sautek with 18" rapid fire range is going to be interesting. Flayers rapid at 18" and Reapers rapid a 14" could be a wakeup call for someone sleeping on the warriors.
As an aside, I think (personally) just running an extra patrol for all the characters is going to help.
It feels like the necron army is built on being "okay" and then buffing with characters to up the damage.
It seems that a patrol with overlord and cryptec
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Patrol with lord and warden will be the way I will be running MOST of my lists.
Just so many rerolls and potential.
Am excited to see if the new skorpek lord will be as good as I think he is, aka good enough to take a slot away from the
" core characters "
The Cryptek also applies its support aura for reanimation protocols to the Plasmancer due to the wording of the aura, having them together in the force can be really powerful.
Just ordered the Indomitus box from element games. Used your link, hope you get paid buddy, great channel.
YOU'VE READ MY MIND! just yesterday I got my second indomitus box, and I reeaaally regret selling the necron part from the first one...the sculpts are sooo glorious, for the second I selling a couple of SM HQs but Im keeping the necrons, which I had never really been a fan of before but damn this minis are good and the indomitus is sucha great discount Im keeping em.
So I really was looking for where to expand from here, but I'll take my time, my next buys will be for my death guard that I've been neglecting for a while now
should definitely play them, new player in general here and knew i wanted necrons when i saw the indomius contents. Played first game with them and it was fun. A lot more fun than my Tau so far
Good thing is since not many necron players out there people selling necron units out of the indomitus box for cheap
Yep awesome army. Dw two boxes are not good. Warriors and destroyers seem very reliable but the rest having doubles of you'll never use them.
If I were collecting necrons I'd wait for the new codex and not give GW any money till you know the rules they make up aren't halfdone.
meanwhile me adding 50 warriors just because it gives me more necron vibes :-D
I'm basically doing the same. I've got 40-60 (??) Necron Warriors with Flayers and now I'm assembling reapers and restocking my paints.
Thank you kind sir I needed this
I ended up picking up both the Start Collecting Necrons, and Start Collecting Admech to go with my Forgebane box just before the pandemic, now neither boxes are available, quite lucky!
If they get rid of the older Destroyers I will be pissed. When the Silent King drops there has to be some interaction with the Triarch units. What that is we will have to see.
I also will be pissed since im paintin mine atm
I imagine we get lokhust and skorphekh each will have a lord a normal a heavy and something you can add in your nprmal unit, but lokhust will be able to bring that something aka heavy gauss cannon destroyer seperate
@@themanbehindtheslaughter7633 i think i discused this with u on the datasheet video but i agree. As long as my destroyer models arnt obsolete then its all good
I doubt they will. It'll surely get a rewrite but can't see them deleting them.
I'm hoping for new models personally as the old models were ugly to me
Durable units and fast units are the name of the game. I would say lychguard/praetorians and Tomb Blades are safe buys for the time being
Immortals and doomsday arks have served me the best and the start collecting is just good value
Ooh boy i do NOT like that profile pic
If you didn't have Indomitus, and don't mind the older look & feel, the Necrons start collection box was a good starting point. DDAs can be magnetized to also serve as Ghost Arks so great move there. As an add-on to Indomitus I think DDAs would be my next pick if I bought pre-codex.
What to get next: the new Codex.
I'd be interested to hear of your thoughts on this topic now that the codes is out and well-understood.
Was looking forward to this video after seeing the marines one
Necrons are mostly character heavy, more overlords are good for my will be done, which gives +1 to hit
I’m grabbing those doomstalkers. They look super cool and give me the big guns I need! I also grabbed some more warriors, and more skorpekh partially because I like the models and partially because there is a chance their unit size gets increased.
I personally recommend a Doomsday ark over a Doomstalker if you dont already have one, the DDA has way higher range and puts out a considerable amount of damage, the doomstalker is only really good if you are going for an assault army.
Celtins I mean I’m not super worried about that with the smaller table size. Also the doomstalkers just look way cooler and are cheaper.
@@dariuschoksy6934 Yeah fair enough.
@@dariuschoksy6934 same man the arks are ass models. It's fine for competitive because most those people would buy the guys with there bum hanging out their pants but would *still buy cause it's the best in slot lol.
So get those guys I'll be doing the same 👌. Also some talk they should have melee profile and I agree but now I think they can shoot in melee because they don't have blast weapons. Could be pretty good.
Glad I got one of those Start Collecting Necron boxes a few months ago.
Wish I would have bought Felthius and the Tainted Cohort for my DG Kill Team before they disappeared.
I'm waiting for a new Start Collecting box for Necrons personally.
Same 👍
I just hope reanimation protocols get seriously buffed otherwise necrons are still going to feel bad. reanimation protocols should absolutely define the army and not be easily circumvented by just focusing down one unit at a time.
Agreed. Ideally it should happen per model being destroyed, like a final save roll. I'm honestly expecting something like that. Knowing GW though they'll just keep it the same but it succeeds on a 4+ instead of 5+ and they'll think we should be happy about it. 🙄
@@bigchungus2536 yeah im guessing nothing will change with RP. but at least immortals and deathmarks are T5.
I'm just gonna give up on any tyranid vids
The good thing about the plasmancer is he has cryptek rules so he effects re animation protocols plus he has harbinger of destruction which is basically smite.
but you need another cryptek to make the plasmancer do cryptek stuff
Personally I have some regret in expanding my Destroyer forces [standard, heavy, and Lord] in light of the new models coming out. I'm hoping that GW's official stance will be that the old & new models represent the same UNIT choice. Then all I would need to do is change the base size if & as needed.
As someone who plays necrons with two blobs of destroyers, I feel you. It's been such a core unit in the crons for a long time so hopefully they won't just legends it.
Right, if you want, they still sell really well on eBay, so you can always try and recoup som of that.
Immortals are a must buy
What are your thoughts on getting a second set of Necrons from the Indomitus box to expand the army in a more casual way, since they are very cheap on ebay?
TL/DR: If you're new to Necrons then it should be a decent START but you'd still need to add stuff to be competitive. Details: You could get a 1400-1500 point core army pretty quickly with two Indomitus halves. I doubt that Warriors, Scarabs, or Melee-Destroyers will be garbage-tier once the new codex hits. You could then see what the codex has in store so you could add in some points / synergy efficient anti-vehicle/monster and anti-super-heavy-infantry units to the mix.
@@erutherford Thanks for the detailed reply, appreciated! I'm coming back to 40K after a long break (stopped at 4th Ed.) and already have an SM army, so I'm considering keeping the other halves of the boxes to (re)start a Necron army. Got already some Destroyers/Heavy Destroyers (but I can see these disappear completely), some Tomb Spyder (I guess these also disappeared by now) a Nightbringer, and a Monolith. I think I'll keep the Necrons halves and wait until the Codex releases to see how I move forward with this :)
I'd say no. Just slowly get the stuff you want, wait for a start collecting box or go on eBay and pick the units you like from indomitus for a decent price.
New Codex then I will review. Only thing I will be buying regardless is the FW Stalker units because they look cool
yeah start collecting necron is hard to find so instead of that i just get forgebane, will definitely get doomsday ark and doom scythe later
They have updated the faq so your faq video from 1day ago is now in need of a FAQ :D
Im gona be sad if destroyers get changed coz im currently halfway through painting mine.
Also to note that more than half of the necron kits are not available online atm
Changed yes, phased out doubtful
I would say get 9 Tomb Blades and 6 Wraiths because they are always good. 1 Cryptek, 3 Arks Magnetized, 1 Stalker, 1 Deceiver Shard and 1 Nightbringer. Hold off on everything else till the codex releases. You will want to drop the Royal Warden as it sucks. Indomitus has too many HQs and not enough Killy stuff.
Nah wraiths gonna lose that 3+ invul save. They got a 3+ save now no way they keeping the other.
No idea how they will preform but I won't be touching them untill codex.
Cool video, I just have a few questions about whether these miniatures would be worth adding to the Indomitus Necrons:
Wraiths
Immortals/Deathmarks
Illuminor Szeras
Tomb Blades
Spyders
Doom Scythe
Or should I wait until October to see what Games Workshop brings out with the new Codexes?
If you're into Necrons for the hobby aspect then get any models that you want to assemble & paint. If you're more into competitive then I'd definitely wait until October. Out of your list the safest models are likely Immortals. Illuminor Szeras doesn't seem to do much currently but the model is almost cool enough looking to buy anyway ... LOL. In the right Dynasty ... one that gives objective secured -- I would think Tomb Blades would be OK. I'm skeptical about the rest of the units as they've got LOTS of competition in slot or have had what currently appears to be nerfs.
@@erutherford Thank you, I am not a competitive player I just play with friends now due to Mr. Covid-19 who has shut down most clubs in my area. Also, I am new to Necrons and all I have so far is two halves of the Indomitus box of Necrons.
Then definitely the models you still enjoy building and hobbying and ofc just make sure if you want a detachment or patrol just sync up the units correctly. But you can fill those roles with the units you like.
I think all those are cool choices but I think wraith and tomb blade is fast attack so just be mindful of you want smaller units you may only be able to field 1-2 or 2-3. You'll have to check your core book o don't list build but these the basics.
But out of the two if definitely go tomb blades over wraiths. Unless they get changed alot in the codex they gonna be still really good.
I'd still say please wait for codex 😅 don't need to be competitive but everyone atleast wants there army to synergize abit and we need the codex for that
@@jakea3950 i might just wait on getting any new miniatures until after the two codexes are released.
What about the Necron half from Forgebane?
Hey guys, I want to keep this army 1000pnts. What would be good to switch out and in? I think the reanimator is the weakest unit in here and I would like to somehow make room for the new heavy destroyer since it looks so badass and also provides something this army doesn't do yet. (I'm a casual player btw)
are you gonna talk about the 2 wound Van Vets?
or the 4 damage T-Hammers
Really hope it means ALL Marines are going to two wounds. That'd be such a good fucking thing
@@whiteshark0165 Good for marines ... bad for everyone else unless they got similar treatments.
@@erutherford Chaos really need the boon. 1 wound Death Guard or Noise marines when weighted how they are points wise are just crap.
Hopefully everything else gets similar treatment
I am thinking 4 warrior squads 2 wardens and overlords and 1 cryptec and a doomsday ark or 2 depending on points
Just how will you stick 4 + cryptwk hqs in a detachment
Well you see you just stick them in.. no one needs to know that you are 5 hqs more than allowed
I'm a new player and got the necron half of indomitus as my first units. Which of the two gun options should I use for my warriors?
Has anyone noticed that the SP primaris upgrade sprues have gone off sale on GW website, for example space wolves and imperial fists?
Also a LOT of necron units are sold out and so are space marine units.
I really wish the warden and Plasmancer was actually elites instead of HQs, as is you’re always best off taking an overlord, lord, and cryptek atm.
Plasmancer is potentially some really fun jank, though
@@jesot Potentially, yes. But given how points changes typically sees running just a battalion and shying away from separate detachments from CP hits, very rare is this guy going to make it in the top 3 for characters you're actually going to take.
Same man... Same lol
What detachment would people recommend for 1000 pts of indomitus crons in 10th?
Quick check - I know they have new models, but would tournaments really stop you from using the old warriors, monolith or destroyers?
No? They still are warriors, monaliths and destroyers so your not proxi-ing are you? You should be fine
Let's goooooo
TBH getting 2nd Necron half, third Plasmancer (and maybe Skorpekh Lord, he's a beast and hopefully his buff will apply to ALL kinds of Destroyers), and third Destroyer unit seem like good idea IF You have Indomitus box (if not, WTF are you even doing, it's amazing deal!)
I got basically that (and few other things, seem like people are selling Overlords and Reanimators for cheap so I got third of those too. I'll use them for conversion into Doomstalkers) and now I'm waiting for ANY info about Start Collecting (another great deal). If it's Shadowspear-like affair then You probably can get it's content (necron half, minus Overlord and Royal Guard, since they come on sprue with SM) for cheaper from Indomitus scalpels anyhow.
I personally hope for Ghost Ark, +10-20 Warriors (or 10 warriors + 5 Immortals/Peaetorians) and most likely Cryptek for HQ as we had Overlord/CCB already.MAYBE new Destroyer too, if GW feels generous. That would give pretty nice force with almost all slots filled. That is, if they won't f&ck up.Don't f&ck up this GW.
As for regular Destroyers, I think GW will stop selling them and slowly phase out them (get it, they're Necrons!) into legends, probably not in this book but most likely in next 4-8 years, in next edition and Codex.
I'd prefer to see GW state that the old style Destroyer models can be used as the new units as long as the base sizes match. Still I think there's a decent chance they'll go the way of the dodo ... and it's too bad as they were basically 50$ for 3 models so it's an expensive model to go to legends.
@@erutherford I really don't think they would like to piss off 90% of Necron players right when they (hopefully) revive them.
Wait for the codex guys and ofc for casual and hobbyist go the rule of cool 👍.
I for one love the new model asthetics and wont even be building or painting a ark no matter how strong it is lol.
The immortal unit of five cost 90 points not 85
Ghost arks can also only carry 10 models which I find counterproductive for warriors
It's really too bad that the Ghost Ark can't carry the following combination "troops, non-Destroyer infantry characters, and body-guard units like CryptoThralls". I agree that max-10 is a deal breaker for me.
Just picked up off ebay 2 sets of necrons from indomitus .. gonna wait till the codex then most likely buy everything anyways because i have a plastic addiction .. pls help
I bought a doom scythe and 3 wraiths. Its the first 40k army I've had. I just thought they looked cool.
Wraiths are some of the coolest looking units in the game in my opinion. Painting some right now haha. Also their role in 8th was super cool. As long as they keep their 3++ save they should still be cool too. Definitely a great choice to buy for a necron unit for both flavor and viability. I have a doom scythe too and it also looks sweet but I haven't had any amazing games with it. I'm still a novice though and don't have any solid aircraft tactics. Anyways, wraiths rock (at least in 8th) and a full unit has been among my favorite to use in the game. Soup's up gtg trust the fungus.
@@bigchungus2536awesome. Thanks man.
Honestly buying new boxes seems kinda like a bad idea to me. Most of us already have plenty of Necron warriors and scarabs (from time when they had rending rule and were ultimate vehicles destroyers). The new units inside with current known rules still do not convince me to invest in them. The only thing good with new boxed sets is that the ammount of models inside can make it easy to get started for new players, especially if you have siblings that wanna give it a try (however the balance issues will make 1 side loose badly). As for the old players I guess it would be best to wait for new Codex.
What do you think for the warriors in the box, flayers or reapers?
Depends on the map, mission, dynasty, and role. For warriors that are going to be sitting on backline objectives I would think flayers for the 24" range esp. if you've deep-strike screened. For Warriors pushing up to midfield objectives I think reapers may be an option esp. in the "new" Sautek dynasty where you can likely get 14" rapid fire range.
Ed Rutherford thanks. I’m new, trying to pick. I did the first 10 with the long range guns. I have an old box of warriors too. Thinking I’ll build the other 10 with the rapid fire
@@jessehammil3897 I'm going to do the same as we can mix and match in a 20 man unit if we want. But flayers* (the long range ones lol) just look overall better. It's definitely the "safe" pick meaning more flexible as it looks now
Very upset to see that the Plasmancer has been struck off here. I am toying with the idea of running 3 and bringing their Crypto mates. 😀 How i do that and also take a Cryptek, Overland and S Lord though, I have no idea 😀.
Oh hey you did do it :D
I asked about it when Auspex did it for the marine side
honestly thinking of quitting warhammer, I'm still waiting on my pre-order box to be shipped... yes pre-order, not made to order. should have shipped the 25th of july
Email customer support. GW tends to have pretty good customer support, and it’s possible that your box just got lost in the sea of orders or something.
Sly Marbo unfortunately I have sent at least 4 emails to customer support in regard to my missing shipment, but have yet to hear back from them.
@@adrianreister Well if you get that triggered you need a hobby more efficient. Stick to buying in store cause these things happen online especially when a pandemic is going on.
If getting a great deal is not enough then just do yourself a favour and only buy in store or get some gratitude going that you even got a pre order box that many missed out on and won't see until Christmas.
@@jakea3950 That's assuming there's a store nearby that's open to buy from... I'm neither triggered, nor feel compelled to heed advice given from someone who seems salty they didn't even get a pre-order box. I simply want what I paid for, $200+ USD is not a small sum at the moment to have unaccounted for. I don't think your definition of gratitude and mine are the same, maybe look it up cuz I think yours is wrong.
soooooo… I bought 5 regular destroyers for my Necron army. Several necron players recommended them as auto-takes for Necrons. So I'm actually hoping that we don't get a new Destroyer sculpt any time soon lol
I'd bet $ that the previewed sculpts are dropping in the next few months if not weeks. Still I have 9 old-style destroyers I can field as standard or heavy as needed. I plan to proxy as new models IF the old ones are garbage tier OR if they go to legends -- even in a box set heavy destroyers were basically 25$ US per model once you ordered the upgrade kit :(
Those Necron players are pretty basic. For advising that. Those are "auto includes" if you don't mind worrying about them all game and then getting traded out. Your looking at a 250+ pt unit for that price. Which everyone will focus on.
Definitely don't listen to people on reddit..most of them are just loud babies.
I suggest getting WRAITHS. They have amazing rules and offer you a front line force to hold enemies back with there 3++ and T5
Also get some of those boats. They're amazing when standing still and usually enemies don't want to target them since D6 damage weapons are terrible against them.
Also don't believe the haters. C tan shards are great especially the one with 2 powers . It's like free mortal wound and a mini flying dread that can punch out small armor
Definitely wait on buy a bunch of items. But WRAITHS will be amazing in 9th especially with the new missions and rules not effecting them as much ..
Ed Rutherford they only showed a “Lokherst heavy destroyer” (apologies if I got it wrong) which, from the looks of it is going to be a larger single model with its own datasheet, rather than a replacement for the older destroyers. so I figured it was safe to get the old destroyers
El Cucuy wraiths are my favorite!!! Like if all units I love them and Their lore the best.
@@jacobjohnston3983 those models are real old I think they will be getting replaced but maybe not until later.
Da though of you like the models it don't matter 👍 people are more worried they will be phased out of the game 🤣 doubtful
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The necron half kinda sucks right now, we have 4 HQs and only 20 warriors, wich isn’t enough, and since the new codex isn’t out yet, we don’t know what troop to buy next
Yea. A lot of necron stuff just straight up sucks compared to other things. Maybe we have to see the army as a whole. Synergys and new stuff. The ctans need a buff imo.
about 99 ninjas you talkin about the deceiver/nightbringer shards? I think those can be really good, especially the deceiver shard...
Then again, their rules could be totally changed in the new codex, i hate not knowing if my units are gonna be buffed or nerfed, makes me just want to not buy anything
@@Max78000 Honestly I think it's best to hold off until at least October before making major purchases. Then again I'd be shocked if there weren't floods of "old green rod models" out there for super cheap on the 2nd hand market so if you want to gamble and you get a stupid-good-offer then why not.
@@about99ninjas56 From what I hear from playtesters(?) is that 9th edition [codex] Necrons are VERY different from 8th edition codex Necrons. From the sneak peaks we got I could see room for space marine levels sort of synergys taking place which is something that historically Necrons haven't really had.
Dont forget the reanimator, tin cans, little bugs and dreadnought sized infantry tripods 👍
You covering the rumour of +1 wounds to normal marines?
Hoping this applies to chaos...
Bruh that woulf be great. My friend is gona have a bad time
Dont do it people, 1000pts is enough, you dont need more plastic crack to add to your pile of shame.
I'll say what i said on the gw post offering advice a week or so back, buy nothing, wait for codex.
Is it just me or are the point coasts off ? Immortals are 90 for me not 85
Immortals are 18 pts each
@@Waagghhboy yes so for 1 unit that would be 90 or for 10 180.
Not 85 like said in the video. Or am I missing something?
Personally I am focusing on my outrider and not bothering to do too much with my Necrons until the new codex drops. Wraiths are still good enough. I think you missed out not adding tomb blades they can be a really nuisance and can help with stopping your opponent getting control of the middle of the board. Drop the reanimator it is the most overpriced piece of nonsense I have seen from GW for Necrons in a long while. Keep the plasmancer though. It has the cryptek keyword. If you were to add another cryptek to the army anything within "3 of the plasmancer would get +1 to its RP rolls
Wraiths definitely going to lose the 3+ invul as they got their basic save buffed. They fine for movement but I certainly wouldn't buy any ATM if you plan on having a good list.
YOU all be thinking about expanding your indomitus box! I’m still waiting for my indomitus box. GW has done me dirty. I bet they going to give me a Chinese box with all the lies and delays they are giving me. I pre-ordered it within the first minute of going live...
Personally till they release the Codex for any of my armies not going to buy anything which as I just finished painting all the Indomitus space marines up as space wolves and the Necrons in a can use them as any scheme is a pity - not going to add to my Orks till there Codex drops either - shame as from hints the play testers have dropped they have all the Codex's just wish GW would drop all of them at the same time but I imagine it will be drip fed over the next couple of years
I wouldnt buy anything necron until we see how butchered the codex is gonna be. Dont rule out that they will somehow nerf the doomsday ark..to make room for the doomstalker.
😂😂 hate the ark and welcome the stalker
NOTICE ME SENPAI!
No
where to go from indomitus... throw the necrons in the bin and start buying space marines because GW have made the game massively unbalanced in space marines favour?
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