I think I'll rock Nihilakh, not because I particular like what it gives, but because their Overlord's name sounds like a breakfast cereal, and breakfast is the most important meal of the day. Thanks for the fantastic breakdown, Auspex!
As a new Necron player, my thought was that Sautekh giving you Imotekh, Hyperlogical Strategist and their strategem are what make them effective. If you make Imotekh your warlord you are effectively gaining 4 CP, 2 from him and saving 2 by not having to buy the Hand of the Phaeron pregame to do MWBD twice.
Im loving that the custom dynasty choices actually feel like a viable alternative to the named ones (still planning on novokh melee murder list for first game after lockdown ends but enjoying list building for a canoptek list using the rad wreathed and additional move rules for canoptek units)
I love custom ones, obsec and 6" move ones. 9th edition as an objective game, 6" move before first turn and position obsec units looks very promising. Gonna try it next week
As a newb i was looking at Novohk just in general really appreciate the quick education on the dynasties as a result certainly considering a custom one now
-1 toughness will not always mean a lot though because say you have it on skorphek destroyers they will still wound marines on 3's and t7 and t8 on 5's.
@@johndiegowhite1743 it doesn't affect vehicle. It is aimed at T3/T4/T5 infantry, effectively giving you +1 to wound in most situation. With it, even a lowly warrior will wound a marine on 3+ while scarabs become real threat wounding on 4s. But the best imo is mixing dynasty, having a detachment give -T and another in Novokh.
The custom dynasty I've been trying to make is one that has very recently awakened. They are nowhere near as hostile as the typical Necrons Dynasty, as they quickly made peace with the humans within their star system. Their bodies and weapons glow with a distinct purple hue, and are armored with a variety of colorful metals. They value 'mortal' life very highly, and adore the few eager-to-learn humans within the Imperium. They do have one species that they absolutely despise: the Tyranids. They view the Tyranids as a virus in an otherwise functional system, a virus that must be exterminated. Even the Orks are less threatening in their eyes, as the Orks at least possess some level of logic and reason. Their true goal is to foster the other species into a perfect golden age. That includes the Orks, which they plan on putting into an isolated, war-torn system, where they can fight to their hearts content.
This is very helpful; I had an idea for a Necron character and a force to build, but I had no idea which Dynasty to use and for some reason the Necron Dyansties are the ones that always blend together into one mush that I find difficult to piece out. This video should be helpful in determining what kind of army each faction runs. Thanks, AusTac!
Played Nephrekh in 8th and playing Nephrekh now. Having the 6” advance and 6++ is great for infantry armies such as mine. Plus with the rewording on the strategem, you can deep strike wraiths. Always fun.
Novokh for me!!! Drop in 20 warriors or 10 immortals with Gauss with overlord veil of darkness. Shoot with strat that adds hits on 6. Then charge and use strat for more attacks. That’s 30-40 attacks ap-1 S5 -S6 (if you use another strat) and even more of you use the correct protocol hungry void. Next turn have the protocol to fall back and shoot and do it all again!!!! NASTY!!!
I would like to point out there are few special characters that CAN join custom (or any named) Dynasty, most importantly Big Boi Szarek, Orikan and Anrakyr, each being valid choice.
Unfortunately its not much of a choice if you want to go competitive Objective secured for your whole army + 6 inch pre turn 1move is absolutely insane compared to anything else. (for friendly games go with whatever you like ofc)
Your content in teaching me so much!! I’m starting my first army with necrons and I think im gonna pick the novokh. The fit closer to my play style. Keep up the great work!!
First time collector, started with space marines and necrons and wasnt sure which dynasty to pick for my necrons. This video helped alot. Ill defo sub after this. Thank you
Custom is so much more fun. My Nercons are an army of greedy pirates that decorate themselves in gold and jewels. Just wish I could use some characters.
I have a fun cheese list built. You go novokh and take 3 squads of 20 warriors with gauss reapers. Novokh gives you both directives of hungry void so you can shoot the warriors and then charge 20 warriors for 40 Strength 5 ap -1 attack for each squad.
But Hungry Void only gives ap on 6s and +1strength on charge doesn't it? However, thr Blood rites stratagem does give +1A to a Novokh unit, and Disruption Fields can give another +1S. So in total that'd be 40 Str6 -1AP D1 attacks with +1 AP on 6s for 2cp
Gotta say after loving the colors and painting a Nihilakh army in 6th edition when they first became a thing in the lore, then struggling through their kind of mediocre rules in 8th, it's refreshing to see what they have now. In the few games I've played of 9th, the Obsec has been so good it's hard to remember they have other rules, though they're not perfect. Still, for all the new Necrons I've purchased I'll probably go Szarekhan just because I want to have them with the Silent King!
@@usualcatz Yes, although the Silent King is both a Dynasitc Agent AND a member of the Szarekhan Dynasty. He can never use a Dynastic code, so his dynasty isn't actually that important, but because he's an Agent he doesn't stop you using Command Protocols for your army. They could have left his dynasty unit off his datasheet and it would have made no difference :-)
@@thisisabsolutelystup yes, for nice and friendly games, I would always play more fluffy, for example if I ever play the Silent King, he must lead an army of Szarekhan. I also like a melee based Novokh List with hard impact in turn 2 with Flayed Ones and other hard stuff while the Novokh protocols are aktive...
Not a Necron player but thinking of starting one with the models I have. It seems to me that a custom Dynasty with Obsec and the 6" pre-game move would be the strongest. Most 9th edition games I have seen played it seems whoever controls the first engagement is at a significant advantage. Being able to move an additional 6" after deployment and seeing who is going first lets you dictate where many of the fights from the start and seems invaluable whether you are first or second in the turn.
Love the videos man! Still not sure which dynasty to choose, but man I’m sure as hell starting a Necron army. Was and still maybe a tad torn between Necrons and Orks, but the current running away traits are scaring me away. But there is just something about soulless alien robot beings 😅🔥
I'm torn between Novokh's weight of attacks vs Rad-Wreathed/Expansionist Custom for wound reliability and movement. 2+ to wound with Wraiths for example is brutal. But +1-2 attacks and an extra pip of AP from Novokh is also pretty damn amazing.
I'm starting a Mephrit Necron army, I think the green and orange colour scheme is so weird yet wonderful. Ny only gripe is I wish the range buff on your guns was 4 inches instead of 3. At the very least, it would clear up confusion on what qualifies as half-range, whether a gauss flayer's rapid fire range becomes 13.5 inches or if you have to tound it up to 14 inches.
Nephrekh is overlooked IMO....the 6 invol save helps destroyers shrug off some powerful shots. And the advance is great to move 12 inches through a wall or terrain so the enemy can't reach you....they also move much faster to get objectives. I run 2 dynasties and Neph is one of them....also a fun paint job due to the golden skin they have...mine turned out great so far.
Looking forward to trying them all. I feel very meh about the SK's dynasty with the exception of the relic to max usage of the command protocols. I think I am most interested in looking at sautekh. While I understand the introduction of core and changes have affected the way the army will play I still think there is considerable space for stacking modifiers, especially if you focus on a smaller moving castle for those buffs and let other units that can operate independently do their thing
Nice Summary. Just remember that you dont need to take the dynastic warlord traits, you can also choose one of the common warlord traits. These are are much more powerful than most of the dynastic traits especially for Novokh, Nephrek and Nihilak Warlords.
Could you stick the mephrit strat on 10 man deathmark squad then deep strike in under half range for the extra ap as well. One 6 equals 2 mortal wounds plus all that ap. Character snipe for 1 cp
Been playing as mephrit for its range superiority but my interests are novokh (melee bloodthirsty) and Sarzekhan (especially them) for their lore/colourscheme. Great insight into the army. Im still learning to play them :D. A custom dynasty intrigues me for obsec combined with fall back and shoot with vehicles.
im planning to make a novokh list where a unit of 20 flayed ones will be a death star unit where they have +1 strength and +1 ap and +1 attacks. you can then make them fight again with a stratagem
My brother played with the Novohk code for the past few months (since it got spoiled), and it is VERY good. Don't underestimate AP-1 warriors in melee. Now that we have custom dynasties, he uses Rad Wreathed and the movement one.
New to Necrons and really love the Doomstalker, Doomsday Ark, Triarch Stalker, Spyder. Get the point of the heavy/elite mechs. Going heavy on those with mix of Warriors and Immortals led by Chrono/technomancers and an overlord, opinions on best dynasty to go with?
Szarekhan good for the reroll to wound on one and the 5+feel no pain on mortals and for that relic the sovereign coronal all units in 9inch get both directives off wich ever protocol ya chose for each turn and with the triatchs will warlord trait ya get to pick same for 2 turns and get both directives
How does fight first work now? It can be very-very strong if for example smb charges your Warlord, but because both units have abilities that allow to fight first they would cancel out and allow your Warlord to fight first... Because by default enemy units fight first in your turn, so it can be smth akin to foul blightspawn.... or does it work differently?
If both armies have fight first rules, the player who's turn it is chooses one of their units to activate first and then alternate players through all units with the rule and then regular combat resolution ie charges, ongoing combats, fight last etc
@@striker6706 I believe it was mentioned in the rules of 9e, somewhere in the back of the book. The situation of “fight first” vs “fight last” is also mentioned there, as the one where both things just cancel each other.
I´d love to go with Nephrekh, since I aim to play a Crusade Dynasty that is based on them. Really disheartens me to see, that there rules are not as good as I would like them to be.
Novokh boys rise up Currently I’m looking to deploy a Lokhust lord, blood scythe, rarified nobility along with the enduring will warlord trait for a really (hopefully survivable) fighty commander for pressure along with many deep striking hungry void flayed ones turn 2, whilst I use other troops (and maybe a veil of darkness Cryptek) to secure objectives. Anti vehicle doesn’t seem to overtly suit Melee crons so perhaps a doom stalker and some scarabs to destroy, tear, and tie up enemy heavy firepower, something that also might be worth it is the Canoptek buffing technomancer build along with a full squad of spiders. Great video as always!
Umm why do you need Rarified Nobility?? It allows a second character to have a Warlord Trait, so whats your second character? Also if your going Melee it means your going Skorpekh and Ophydian might as well go full Destroyer Cult and use Lokhust Heavies as your Anti Tank. 3s to hit rerolling 1s with Str10 AP -4 and 3d3 damage.
@@memnarch129 Well, if he wants Command Protocols he'd need a noble, and if he has a noble then the Destroyer Lords can't be warlords thanks to the Royal Court rule, so perhaps that's his reasoning.
@@stephenhumphreys9149 And thats valid, just didnt mention the other character so wondering why the need for the extra Warlord Trait Strat Also I played one game with no Noble And no Protocols and did fine. They are cool, but think people shouldnt play around them being their game shifting play. More Protocols are a little extra icing on the cake.
@@memnarch129 seems a mistake taking no nobles to me, a massive plethora of extra rules missed for the cost of not taking great support HQ’s. I take rarified nobility for the extra WL trait as somewhere else I’m having either an overlord or at least lord as the WL (royal court) their support abilities are fantastic, and I need them for command protocols, so I’d rather have them kitted our with staffs of light and keep them as much as I can out of harms way - certainly don’t want to be throwing a void scythe (or blood scythe) Overlord into a squad or anything with a middling close combat skill or risk losing a powerful force multiplier .
@@doodlejackbod Not really. If you can manage to win or do good without Protocols then they are just that little bit extra help. Ive always disliked "crutches" in any game. Ive always learned to do without certain things in games so that when I do get to use them it just helps me further, rather then relying on them to be there
I am looking at getting back into warhammer 40k. Been out before this army was even an army. I am looking at a silent king army though seems super resilent
In my opinion the custom Dynasties are superiour to the normal dynasties... All units with OBS combined with the free 6 inch movement is super strong. The free movement lets you move your units in cover if you start second or let you move forward fast, if you go firts. Being 6 inch nearer to the enemy or the objectives is super strong! I dont think that the double protocols and the relics/warlord traits for the normal dynasties are worth it
@@chetmanley1885 In my opinion the only dystie worth to be mentioned is sautekh, because Imothek is very good and Zandrekh is ok. But talking about strength in tournaments the custom ones are still superiour
The Novokh Dynasty are the Blood Angel/World Eaters of the necrons they charge right in fast and make a literal bloody mess We know why the orks say red makes them faster
What about the other szarekhan ability where if a model with the code would be wonded as the result of a mortal wound roll a dice on a 5+ that wound is not lost? that's basically a secondary save seems pretty good but I didn't see you mention it?
FIRST! Also - I love the fact custom dynasties are now supported. If only they also gave rules to give characters' custom buffs for your own dynasty, it would again be the edition of, "Your Guys".
i still don't understand vassal kingdom - to me this seems like the way to go and get to use all of the rules of one of the main 6 plus an additional CoA? I have to be missing something
Play Mephrit..come in rapidfire range .. ds-1... protocoll hatefull star..woundroll of 6 is ds-1... ..1cp.. merciless Attack for dakka dakka, and 1 cp for talent for anihilation..wound roll of 6 is mortal wound.. max3... So u become necron warriors with a lot of shots ds-2 or ds-3..with 3mortal wounds :-) power overwhelming :D
Are we obligated to paint the army the color of the dynasty we choose ? Or can we just paint them how we want and just say they are from that dynasty ?
so question. i notice you already have a vd comparing the doomsday ark vs the doom stalker. but im trying to decide what the best anti-tank unit to put in my (mostly plained for close combat) list. the best four options seem to be the heavy destroyers and the three dooms. your opinion plz as to which would be the better one/ones to bring?
I would 100% bring the doomstalkers. Heavy destroyers do less damage and are squishy with less range point for point. The doomstalkers also don't need much babysitting from deepstrike with thier special overwatch rules.
I don't think there's anything in the Nephric dynastic code that says they can't charge after using translocate. Also by the wording, does it mean that you can choose to make an advance if you still want to fire assault weapons? If so, it seems ok. You can get guaranteed 6 inch advance if you don't intend to shoot and can still charge if you plan to.
When you translocate you are still advancing, so the normal 'no advance and charge' rule applies. And yes, you 'can' translocate, you don't have to so you can advance normally and still fire assault weapons.
You can play as you want. There is no rule that you army has to be painted in specific colors. Your necrons can be pink with golden chains on them, as long as the models have the weapons they should have, you are WYSIWYG compliant for tournaments.
If you play Casual, it doesnt matter, but in competitive some people might complain, but I'd say most people dont care. I have a custom paint scheme so I just flow between dynasties
play any dynasty you please, you are not tied to a dynasty just because you painted them a certain way. You choose which dynasty you are playing when you build your army list.
It absolutly doesn't matter anymore because there are custom dynasty traits, one of which is "Vassal Kingdom". This allows you to use the dynastic code of one of the big named dynastys. I am not entierly sure about Artifacts and Warolord Traits though. However the only person that would complain about that is "that guy" and honestly fuck that guy. No one will be bothered by it
im going to try running my necrons as sautehk dynasty, most of my warriors are carrying gauss reapers. as soon as they are in range, rapid fire is good. im hoping this strategy works out.
They went from 6" + advance roll with no shooting in the preview to just auto 6" advance with no shooting, which is a much worse version of their old rule.
@@wyattwhyte7904 it is and isnt. Unless I have read the wording incorrectly you can choose to roll the advance or just take the auto "6. So it is arguably possible to do some gamey things where you teleport certain units but not others. However compared to the pervious rule it does feel harsh when you consider Tesla was changed to unmodified 6's to explode it's not like shooting nephrek will be disgusting
The newest book, Infinite and the Devine has been great so far. Indomnitus also features some Necrons but the characters are a bit weak IMO. Not sure of any others.
I think I'll rock Nihilakh, not because I particular like what it gives, but because their Overlord's name sounds like a breakfast cereal, and breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
Thanks for the fantastic breakdown, Auspex!
And Trazyn the Infinite?
Ah yes, a bowl of Krispekh to start the day. 🙃
Nihilakh makes your scarab swarms into regenable fast moving nurglings...
And that's why I have 18 of them.
That just makes think “NO NOT THE SCARABS!!” While some poor shmuck gets eaten alive by scarabs
You mean nephrekh dynasty right?
@@oneluckyraven7268 ?
@@Sarkhamy I thought you were talking about auto advancing scarabs to move 18" per turn, I misread your comment.
Lmao 18 (has 39)
As a new Necron player, my thought was that Sautekh giving you Imotekh, Hyperlogical Strategist and their strategem are what make them effective. If you make Imotekh your warlord you are effectively gaining 4 CP, 2 from him and saving 2 by not having to buy the Hand of the Phaeron pregame to do MWBD twice.
Im loving that the custom dynasty choices actually feel like a viable alternative to the named ones (still planning on novokh melee murder list for first game after lockdown ends but enjoying list building for a canoptek list using the rad wreathed and additional move rules for canoptek units)
It's a pity that the custom ones don't allow you to have a preferred protocol
finally i can unleash the power of the Nepheru
@@phoenixfire9176 A-maaarrr-kuuunn
Alex Kaplan Amar-kun no Baka!
Both are very good with scarabs.
I love custom ones, obsec and 6" move ones. 9th edition as an objective game, 6" move before first turn and position obsec units looks very promising. Gonna try it next week
As a newb i was looking at Novohk just in general really appreciate the quick education on the dynasties as a result certainly considering a custom one now
Surprised you didn’t mention rad-wreathed dynastic tradition - minus 1 toughness to units within 1” seems really good for a close combat army!
-1 toughness will not always mean a lot though because say you have it on skorphek destroyers they will still wound marines on 3's and t7 and t8 on 5's.
@@johndiegowhite1743 skoropek have 7 strength if you play also the little guy
@@doomkingraye7692 Add in directive 2 on the Hungry Void for s9 on the reapblade and s7 on the threshers with the plasmacyte.
@@johndiegowhite1743 it doesn't affect vehicle. It is aimed at T3/T4/T5 infantry, effectively giving you +1 to wound in most situation. With it, even a lowly warrior will wound a marine on 3+ while scarabs become real threat wounding on 4s. But the best imo is mixing dynasty, having a detachment give -T and another in Novokh.
@@marc-antoineleber109 Maybe, although you'd lose access to Command protocols doing that.
The custom dynasty I've been trying to make is one that has very recently awakened. They are nowhere near as hostile as the typical Necrons Dynasty, as they quickly made peace with the humans within their star system. Their bodies and weapons glow with a distinct purple hue, and are armored with a variety of colorful metals. They value 'mortal' life very highly, and adore the few eager-to-learn humans within the Imperium. They do have one species that they absolutely despise: the Tyranids. They view the Tyranids as a virus in an otherwise functional system, a virus that must be exterminated. Even the Orks are less threatening in their eyes, as the Orks at least possess some level of logic and reason. Their true goal is to foster the other species into a perfect golden age. That includes the Orks, which they plan on putting into an isolated, war-torn system, where they can fight to their hearts content.
Love the backstory
That just sounds like if the necrons tried to become the old ones
This is very helpful; I had an idea for a Necron character and a force to build, but I had no idea which Dynasty to use and for some reason the Necron Dyansties are the ones that always blend together into one mush that I find difficult to piece out. This video should be helpful in determining what kind of army each faction runs. Thanks, AusTac!
Played Nephrekh in 8th and playing Nephrekh now. Having the 6” advance and 6++ is great for infantry armies such as mine. Plus with the rewording on the strategem, you can deep strike wraiths. Always fun.
Novokh for me!!! Drop in 20 warriors or 10 immortals with Gauss with overlord veil of darkness. Shoot with strat that adds hits on 6. Then charge and use strat for more attacks. That’s 30-40 attacks ap-1 S5 -S6 (if you use another strat) and even more of you use the correct protocol hungry void. Next turn have the protocol to fall back and shoot and do it all again!!!! NASTY!!!
I would like to point out there are few special characters that CAN join custom (or any named) Dynasty, most importantly Big Boi Szarek, Orikan and Anrakyr, each being valid choice.
I'm for sure making a Custom Dynasty. I just need to find a good paint scheme.
Unfortunately its not much of a choice if you want to go competitive
Objective secured for your whole army + 6 inch pre turn 1move is absolutely insane compared to anything else.
(for friendly games go with whatever you like ofc)
I agree, I think these ones are bonkers good.
My friend: why do you like necrons?
Me: I just think they're neat
Im picking up my first army and im choosing necrons for the main reason of they look like a mix of warlocks and cyborgs
@@legoking1001 good choice
Your content in teaching me so much!! I’m starting my first army with necrons and I think im gonna pick the novokh. The fit closer to my play style. Keep up the great work!!
I'm making my own dynasty using anubis heads, with black and tinted bronze
First time collector, started with space marines and necrons and wasnt sure which dynasty to pick for my necrons. This video helped alot. Ill defo sub after this. Thank you
I painted mine in the Nihilakh colours regardless of the rules.
Too cool of a scheme to care about their viability.
this is a good player. if you need a lore reason say you are a vassal or alliance kingdom without taking the vassal trait
Custom is so much more fun. My Nercons are an army of greedy pirates that decorate themselves in gold and jewels. Just wish I could use some characters.
Greedy undead technologically advanced Egyptian space pirate robots that contain the souls of cancer patients slathered in gold and jewels
I'm sure some other dynasties have leaders, like the famous Szechuan ruler "The Generally Quiet Regent"
Thaszar, is that you?
What about Anrakyr?
I have a fun cheese list built. You go novokh and take 3 squads of 20 warriors with gauss reapers. Novokh gives you both directives of hungry void so you can shoot the warriors and then charge 20 warriors for 40 Strength 5 ap -1 attack for each squad.
But Hungry Void only gives ap on 6s and +1strength on charge doesn't it?
However, thr Blood rites stratagem does give +1A to a Novokh unit, and Disruption Fields can give another +1S.
So in total that'd be 40 Str6 -1AP D1 attacks with +1 AP on 6s for 2cp
Gotta say after loving the colors and painting a Nihilakh army in 6th edition when they first became a thing in the lore, then struggling through their kind of mediocre rules in 8th, it's refreshing to see what they have now. In the few games I've played of 9th, the Obsec has been so good it's hard to remember they have other rules, though they're not perfect. Still, for all the new Necrons I've purchased I'll probably go Szarekhan just because I want to have them with the Silent King!
As far as I know Silent King is Dynastic Agent and can be included in any dynasty list, isn’t that so?
@@usualcatz Yes, although the Silent King is both a Dynasitc Agent AND a member of the Szarekhan Dynasty. He can never use a Dynastic code, so his dynasty isn't actually that important, but because he's an Agent he doesn't stop you using Command Protocols for your army. They could have left his dynasty unit off his datasheet and it would have made no difference :-)
Obsec+6"pre-game move ofc
In my opinion far the best combination
What I was thinking as well.
Definitely the best for game winning in 9th, but probably not the most fun.
@@thisisabsolutelystup absolutely correct. Fun games will be Mephrit, competitive ObSekh Dynasty
@@thisisabsolutelystup yes, for nice and friendly games, I would always play more fluffy, for example if I ever play the Silent King, he must lead an army of Szarekhan. I also like a melee based Novokh List with hard impact in turn 2 with Flayed Ones and other hard stuff while the Novokh protocols are aktive...
It seems szarekhan and mephrit will be the most used in 9th edition
That Szarekhan Warlord trait seems to be really great to build around.
Not a Necron player but thinking of starting one with the models I have. It seems to me that a custom Dynasty with Obsec and the 6" pre-game move would be the strongest. Most 9th edition games I have seen played it seems whoever controls the first engagement is at a significant advantage. Being able to move an additional 6" after deployment and seeing who is going first lets you dictate where many of the fights from the start and seems invaluable whether you are first or second in the turn.
Love the videos man! Still not sure which dynasty to choose, but man I’m sure as hell starting a Necron army. Was and still maybe a tad torn between Necrons and Orks, but the current running away traits are scaring me away. But there is just something about soulless alien robot beings 😅🔥
I'm torn between Novokh's weight of attacks vs Rad-Wreathed/Expansionist Custom for wound reliability and movement. 2+ to wound with Wraiths for example is brutal. But +1-2 attacks and an extra pip of AP from Novokh is also pretty damn amazing.
I'm starting a Mephrit Necron army, I think the green and orange colour scheme is so weird yet wonderful. Ny only gripe is I wish the range buff on your guns was 4 inches instead of 3. At the very least, it would clear up confusion on what qualifies as half-range, whether a gauss flayer's rapid fire range becomes 13.5 inches or if you have to tound it up to 14 inches.
The Novokh AP bonus isn't only for the first turn. It's whenever you charge, get charged or perform a heroic intervention.
Nephrekh is overlooked IMO....the 6 invol save helps destroyers shrug off some powerful shots. And the advance is great to move 12 inches through a wall or terrain so the enemy can't reach you....they also move much faster to get objectives. I run 2 dynasties and Neph is one of them....also a fun paint job due to the golden skin they have...mine turned out great so far.
Looking forward to trying them all. I feel very meh about the SK's dynasty with the exception of the relic to max usage of the command protocols. I think I am most interested in looking at sautekh. While I understand the introduction of core and changes have affected the way the army will play I still think there is considerable space for stacking modifiers, especially if you focus on a smaller moving castle for those buffs and let other units that can operate independently do their thing
Nice Summary. Just remember that you dont need to take the dynastic warlord traits, you can also choose one of the common warlord traits. These are are much more powerful than most of the dynastic traits especially for Novokh, Nephrek and Nihilak Warlords.
Great video, thanks for the comparison!
Could you stick the mephrit strat on 10 man deathmark squad then deep strike in under half range for the extra ap as well. One 6 equals 2 mortal wounds plus all that ap. Character snipe for 1 cp
Been playing as mephrit for its range superiority but my interests are novokh (melee bloodthirsty) and Sarzekhan (especially them) for their lore/colourscheme. Great insight into the army. Im still learning to play them :D. A custom dynasty intrigues me for obsec combined with fall back and shoot with vehicles.
I have been waiting for this video for so long!!!
Nephrekh sounds so cool, but I'm not sure how to start them off.
The nephrekh sound brilliant for my poor hammer army. “Necrons with metal angelic wings”
If I ever make my own tabletop dinasty, I'll recreate Khemri from total war.
im planning to make a novokh list where a unit of 20 flayed ones will be a death star unit where they have +1 strength and +1 ap and +1 attacks. you can then make them fight again with a stratagem
or custom dynasty, combine Mephrit +1ap at half range, plus sotekh with increased rapid fire range is nice with a mob of 15-20 Flayers.
I prefer Sautekh not only do I enjoy the lore of them but I think the warlord trait is pretty good and the 18" rapid fire weapon is pretty good
My brother played with the Novohk code for the past few months (since it got spoiled), and it is VERY good. Don't underestimate AP-1 warriors in melee.
Now that we have custom dynasties, he uses Rad Wreathed and the movement one.
The Orks were right red makes them go Faster
New to Necrons and really love the Doomstalker, Doomsday Ark, Triarch Stalker, Spyder. Get the point of the heavy/elite mechs. Going heavy on those with mix of Warriors and Immortals led by Chrono/technomancers and an overlord, opinions on best dynasty to go with?
Rad-wreathed is another good Dynasty tradition, but almost nothing is better than army-wide obsec in my opinion.
Szarekhan good for the reroll to wound on one and the 5+feel no pain on mortals and for that relic the sovereign coronal all units in 9inch get both directives off wich ever protocol ya chose for each turn and with the triatchs will warlord trait ya get to pick same for 2 turns and get both directives
How does fight first work now? It can be very-very strong if for example smb charges your Warlord, but because both units have abilities that allow to fight first they would cancel out and allow your Warlord to fight first... Because by default enemy units fight first in your turn, so it can be smth akin to foul blightspawn.... or does it work differently?
If both armies have fight first rules, the player who's turn it is chooses one of their units to activate first and then alternate players through all units with the rule and then regular combat resolution ie charges, ongoing combats, fight last etc
@@alexairey5629 Thanks, is it what is stated in the necron/ marine codex about such abilities?
@@striker6706 it is in the special section of the core book
@@striker6706 I believe it was mentioned in the rules of 9e, somewhere in the back of the book. The situation of “fight first” vs “fight last” is also mentioned there, as the one where both things just cancel each other.
Thanks
Planning on going all infantry and double buffed up reanimation with the relic reanimation orb.
I´d love to go with Nephrekh, since I aim to play a Crusade Dynasty that is based on them. Really disheartens me to see, that there rules are not as good as I would like them to be.
Novokh boys rise up
Currently I’m looking to deploy a Lokhust lord, blood scythe, rarified nobility along with the enduring will warlord trait for a really (hopefully survivable) fighty commander for pressure along with many deep striking hungry void flayed ones turn 2, whilst I use other troops (and maybe a veil of darkness Cryptek) to secure objectives.
Anti vehicle doesn’t seem to overtly suit Melee crons so perhaps a doom stalker and some scarabs to destroy, tear, and tie up enemy heavy firepower, something that also might be worth it is the Canoptek buffing technomancer build along with a full squad of spiders.
Great video as always!
Umm why do you need Rarified Nobility?? It allows a second character to have a Warlord Trait, so whats your second character?
Also if your going Melee it means your going Skorpekh and Ophydian might as well go full Destroyer Cult and use Lokhust Heavies as your Anti Tank. 3s to hit rerolling 1s with Str10 AP -4 and 3d3 damage.
@@memnarch129 Well, if he wants Command Protocols he'd need a noble, and if he has a noble then the Destroyer Lords can't be warlords thanks to the Royal Court rule, so perhaps that's his reasoning.
@@stephenhumphreys9149 And thats valid, just didnt mention the other character so wondering why the need for the extra Warlord Trait Strat
Also I played one game with no Noble And no Protocols and did fine. They are cool, but think people shouldnt play around them being their game shifting play. More Protocols are a little extra icing on the cake.
@@memnarch129 seems a mistake taking no nobles to me, a massive plethora of extra rules missed for the cost of not taking great support HQ’s.
I take rarified nobility for the extra WL trait as somewhere else I’m having either an overlord or at least lord as the WL (royal court) their support abilities are fantastic, and I need them for command protocols, so I’d rather have them kitted our with staffs of light and keep them as much as I can out of harms way - certainly don’t want to be throwing a void scythe (or blood scythe) Overlord into a squad or anything with a middling close combat skill or risk losing a powerful force multiplier .
@@doodlejackbod Not really. If you can manage to win or do good without Protocols then they are just that little bit extra help.
Ive always disliked "crutches" in any game. Ive always learned to do without certain things in games so that when I do get to use them it just helps me further, rather then relying on them to be there
I am looking at getting back into warhammer 40k. Been out before this army was even an army. I am looking at a silent king army though seems super resilent
Look up a video called get necroned it helps pick
I'd be surprised if I see anyone at my local shop rocking a Novokh army, all the units that seem good for them are mostly new models
In my opinion the custom Dynasties are superiour to the normal dynasties...
All units with OBS combined with the free 6 inch movement is super strong. The free movement lets you move your units in cover if you start second or let you move forward fast, if you go firts.
Being 6 inch nearer to the enemy or the objectives is super strong!
I dont think that the double protocols and the relics/warlord traits for the normal dynasties are worth it
@@chetmanley1885 In my opinion the only dystie worth to be mentioned is sautekh, because Imothek is very good and Zandrekh is ok. But talking about strength in tournaments the custom ones are still superiour
The Novokh Dynasty are the Blood Angel/World Eaters of the necrons they charge right in fast and make a literal bloody mess We know why the orks say red makes them faster
they gain transdimetional loaction = teletport any where also they can still charge
The Szarekhan dynasty is ths one for me
Mephrit because their color scheme is sick.
What about the other szarekhan ability where if a model with the code would be wonded as the result of a mortal wound roll a dice on a 5+ that wound is not lost? that's basically a secondary save seems pretty good but I didn't see you mention it?
Honestly, it's hard for me not to choose based on whose lore is the best.
Mephrit looks good for me!
Starting a necron army and I really can't decide between Mephrit or Novokh...
What kind of cereal mascot is Krispekh lmao
FIRST! Also - I love the fact custom dynasties are now supported. If only they also gave rules to give characters' custom buffs for your own dynasty, it would again be the edition of, "Your Guys".
i still don't understand vassal kingdom - to me this seems like the way to go and get to use all of the rules of one of the main 6 plus an additional CoA? I have to be missing something
You dont get the CoA with a vassal kingdom unfortunately.
Play Mephrit..come in rapidfire range .. ds-1... protocoll hatefull star..woundroll of 6 is ds-1... ..1cp.. merciless Attack for dakka dakka, and 1 cp for talent for anihilation..wound roll of 6 is mortal wound.. max3...
So u become necron warriors with a lot of shots ds-2 or ds-3..with 3mortal wounds :-) power overwhelming :D
Skporpact destroyers are OP
Are we obligated to paint the army the color of the dynasty we choose ? Or can we just paint them how we want and just say they are from that dynasty ?
Yes as long as you aren’t planning on using them in any official tournament!
so question.
i notice you already have a vd comparing the doomsday ark vs the doom stalker. but im trying to decide what the best anti-tank unit to put in my (mostly plained for close combat) list.
the best four options seem to be the heavy destroyers and the three dooms. your opinion plz as to which would be the better one/ones to bring?
I would 100% bring the doomstalkers. Heavy destroyers do less damage and are squishy with less range point for point. The doomstalkers also don't need much babysitting from deepstrike with thier special overwatch rules.
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Sylphek, Sylwek
I don't think there's anything in the Nephric dynastic code that says they can't charge after using translocate. Also by the wording, does it mean that you can choose to make an advance if you still want to fire assault weapons? If so, it seems ok. You can get guaranteed 6 inch advance if you don't intend to shoot and can still charge if you plan to.
When you translocate you are still advancing, so the normal 'no advance and charge' rule applies. And yes, you 'can' translocate, you don't have to so you can advance normally and still fire assault weapons.
So I have to choose a Dynasty in addition to a army type? Can this not be chosen per game? Are there really so many restrictions on army buidling?
Custom dynasties fur sure, Obsec and free move
Are there different models for the dynasties or is it sheerly the paint job??
Different paint jobs
Can you change Dynasties as you please? Or does the color you paint them make it so that’s the dynasty you always have to play? Does anyone know?
I think it depends on how friendly you are with your opponent.
You can play as you want. There is no rule that you army has to be painted in specific colors.
Your necrons can be pink with golden chains on them, as long as the models have the weapons they should have, you are WYSIWYG compliant for tournaments.
If you play Casual, it doesnt matter, but in competitive some people might complain, but I'd say most people dont care. I have a custom paint scheme so I just flow between dynasties
play any dynasty you please, you are not tied to a dynasty just because you painted them a certain way. You choose which dynasty you are playing when you build your army list.
It absolutly doesn't matter anymore because there are custom dynasty traits, one of which is "Vassal Kingdom". This allows you to use the dynastic code of one of the big named dynastys. I am not entierly sure about Artifacts and Warolord Traits though.
However the only person that would complain about that is "that guy" and honestly fuck that guy. No one will be bothered by it
I play with mephrit
I am a simple man, always rapidfire always in melee
Do these work like Marines where you can be a successor and/or choose whatever rules or are you stuck once you paint?
im going to try running my necrons as sautehk dynasty, most of my warriors are carrying gauss reapers. as soon as they are in range, rapid fire is good. im hoping this strategy works out.
Gause Reaper are now Range 12 Assault 2.
@@OpticFusion crap, you're right. Well that changes things.
I’m just wondering now why all the Necrons seem to have the Novokh symbol by default...
That is the symbol of the Triarch, aka. the Silent King
Poor, poor Nephrekh. Nerfed before even being released...
what nerf?
They went from 6" + advance roll with no shooting in the preview to just auto 6" advance with no shooting, which is a much worse version of their old rule.
@@eelacanth oh I guess I didn’t see that preview, but that isn’t too huge a nerf.
Coming from 8th when they could auto advance 6" and still shoot, it's a pretty big nerf
@@wyattwhyte7904 it is and isnt. Unless I have read the wording incorrectly you can choose to roll the advance or just take the auto "6. So it is arguably possible to do some gamey things where you teleport certain units but not others. However compared to the pervious rule it does feel harsh when you consider Tesla was changed to unmodified 6's to explode it's not like shooting nephrek will be disgusting
Just imagine being Szarekhan and having the Nightbringer, a stalker, etc regen 2w and only being able to lose 3w per rounnd...
They are dynastic agents. They don't get the benefit from the protcols
@@radmike8710 Yeah I forgot that part lol
What about thokt dynasty?
wait there are dynasties ?
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Any necron novels worth a read?
The newest book, Infinite and the Devine has been great so far. Indomnitus also features some Necrons but the characters are a bit weak IMO. Not sure of any others.
@@SyrTyggerGaming curious, i know little about the current fluff.
How are the necron characters portrayed?
Just thought of them as robots
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Thokt
Thokt dynasty > the rest.
Oh my days your voice is so frustrating! You don’t downspeak at the end of your sentences and it’s off putting cos it sounds so un-natural
He sounds soothing, but I have to admit I have a hard time understanding him sometimes.
Obviously the final answeer is Nihilakh because they look cool.