xMagno313x I'm going to use examples from a different game: Duel of Champions. Face Hunter might be a BS deck, but it is relatively painless. Like Deleb, its unfairness is how quickly it can win the game, but once it wins you can go do something else. Freeze Mage is more like Crippling decks, where the unfairness is that it stops anything interesting from happening for as long as possible to win. I would far rather spend 5 minutes losing to Winferno than 45 minutes winning against a Crippling deck. It's not fun, and the only reason not to concede is basically spite, so that they cannot benefit from their "make the opponent quit in disgust" win condition.
Alex Holker Yea, I totally agree to what you are saying, but there is a certain level of thinking and planning needed to go against a Freeze Mage (albeit not much), kinda similar to the thought process against a very slow Control Deck. If what he said was Fatigue Decks, then I would agree without a doubt, because endless heals and draw is plain torture. Freeze Mage does hold a similar annoyance, but its not that bad.
xMagno313x i LOVE Fatigue Druid...it gets even funner when someone Emote spams me, cause i stop pressing End Turn until they stop...great fun, an hour spent in game against face hunter and all his Agro brothers.
When Trump plays that Paladin at 23:52, the Paladin plays three Piloted Sky Golems naturally from his hand! One at 25:55, another at 26:35 and a third at 27:28. Finally, proof that three of a card get played in games sometimes!
sentientchimp The card from sky golem was ambusher, and when he played second sky golem, trump killed ambusher....thats why he could throw "third" sky golem. LOL
trump have you tried dragon paladin with a grim patron and add some activators like mad bomber or madder bomber for the grim patron i tested it vs a warrior grim and it worked suppressing to me very well .i have had a 5 to 1 win rate
I play freeze mage and Kezan is such a bitch of a card. Like whoever runs it gets a free win against any freeze mage. Can't think of any card that is such a huge hard counter in the game
Unethical is Face Hunter. Freeze mage at least involves some thinking and planning. Face Hunter is just a one thought process. Maybe you have a choice to be made if you need to silence something, but that is it.
Vendetta Gaming They are simply unethical for different reasons. Face Hunter is unethical because you trick the game into thinking you are good while freeze mage is unethical because it literally sucks every tiny bit of fun out of the game.
mac102938 I ll have to disagree, you are basically saying that ALL control decks are unethical.Freeze mage or control warrior are NOT grinder mage or mill druid.
mac102938 there is no difference between control decks and freeze mage. its all controlling the board. you thinking freeze mage is "worse" because you cant kill anything since you and your board is frozen is NO different than you not being able to kill the control warrior because he has 192085735 health.
Mustachioed Poro The difference is that control warrior at least you know when you are winning and losing for the most part. With freeze mage, you have to essentially win the board and then kill the mage 3 times if the mage had good draw. Control warrior at least tries to take the board from time to time and doesn't have a fail proof way of winning every time with the right draw.
I got an Arena run where twice I used Bane of Doom and I got Mal'Ganis and Illidan. The rest of the deck was garbage and my luck was bad but it was interesting.
DmRushed overall he didn't do anything good that round. He didn't have kill in hand, yet still rushed Alexx. He didn't have anything which really needed immediate discount, yet still "rushed" Emperor. He threw the game, more than the Paladin countered him.
DmRushed whats up with you? I already see 3 comments here that are just you laughing about the paladin fight. He lost a game, big fucking deal. Get a life, kid.
Hey Guys, I have a little problem and I hope you guys can help me.. I have enough dust to make a legendary, and the one i want to make are Tirion, Archmage or Hellscream. Reasons for each: Tirion: It is one of the best legendaries in the game, and then my paladin deck will be complete Hellscream: My warrior deck will be complete and it will be alot easier to win games Archmage: if it sticks there one turn you bassically have won the game, and then my freeze mage and every other type of mage will be completed. I have most experience with mage but i also want to make the other ones I have nearly all the neutral legendaries that are "must have" so what to do...?
He said that he doesn't use golden cards because it's easier for editing purposes. It also makes the deck list more uniform if you don't, unless you have all the golden cards you need.
I think I ll start immediately conceding with my freeze mage vs zoolock.Last one doesnt count, he played bad.Also damn when Alex is your last card ;/ And wth plays mystics?I been playing one for a whole month, I NEVER managed to steal even a hunters secret(and they were a LOT of scum).Sure I d probably do it vs a freeze mage but I havent seen one in months.
Actually I believe Trump had a shot in that last game.The play was blizzard and fireball face. This way he survives the ashbringer on 1 hp and next turn fireball n2 to break the block + block of his own. Then if the pally actually had no heals ( which was possible, because of kezan mystic, avenging wrath etc ) Trump wins by Pyro face :)
Mischa Both I played it a long time with no Antonidas, only Alex (had her anyway thats why I made the deck) but the mage sure upped my wins considerably.Anyways, all control decks are expensive :(.
I'd recommend NOT playing it if you don't already have the deck and a mostly complete collection. I mean this deck is not bad but I feel like creating this deck is not first priority. Perhaps Midrange Druid would be good for a little less Dust and basically same win condition.
Seraphim Wolf Having crafted the combo druid lately I must say I agree.Only needed to craft 1 force of nature and you can play it without the legendary.Mostly play this when I wanna play control since I cant craft any other control deck.
I feel like Trump played the first paladin match so badly I don't see any reason to play Alex when you don't have almost any burn and certainly not enough to win And he totally overlooked the blizzard ping play which left the enemy with a frozen 3-1 Anyway I do kind of understand you had a match against paladin as freeze mage where he healed about 20 hp and then I got him low and he healed another 10 with Alex
Peshkatz fights the kimono girl with an umbreon "hmm that looks like an electric type pokemon" look at the name trump, the name! its screaming that its dark or ghost type.
He could have won the last game. On the last turn he should have blizzard and fireball face. (probably still alive) turn after fireball ice block. then pyro. am I right?
TheJTV100 I assume he's referring to the bug where Bane of Doom killed the hero (not minion) Majordomo Executus and won the game before his "deathrattle" could trigger. It's a good question - has anyone tested if it still works/works against players?
MrBaris115 As someone who has been laddering with Patron Warrior, I really don't mind either way tbh. Although honestly I'll take huntard over freeze any day, that way my games go a lot quicker ^.^
bububu I wrote a commentar which wasn't against cancer I am so sorry.. Anyway it doesn't mather if Freeze mage needs skill, it is still the most annoying deck. No interaction at all.. It just forces you to rush without extending the board.
Man that first paladin wanted some justice
"3 mana 5/10 taunt, not too bad" - Trump 2015
If he says Freeze Mage is unethical then what in the world is Face Hunter?
xMagno313x I'm going to use examples from a different game: Duel of Champions. Face Hunter might be a BS deck, but it is relatively painless. Like Deleb, its unfairness is how quickly it can win the game, but once it wins you can go do something else. Freeze Mage is more like Crippling decks, where the unfairness is that it stops anything interesting from happening for as long as possible to win. I would far rather spend 5 minutes losing to Winferno than 45 minutes winning against a Crippling deck. It's not fun, and the only reason not to concede is basically spite, so that they cannot benefit from their "make the opponent quit in disgust" win condition.
Alex Holker Yea, I totally agree to what you are saying, but there is a certain level of thinking and planning needed to go against a Freeze Mage (albeit not much), kinda similar to the thought process against a very slow Control Deck. If what he said was Fatigue Decks, then I would agree without a doubt, because endless heals and draw is plain torture. Freeze Mage does hold a similar annoyance, but its not that bad.
Well if you really hate freeze mage that much Keezan Mystic is pretty good to screw them over XD
xMagno313x Just be glad we don't have taunt bypassing cards yet. The day that happens is the day face hunter becomes truly ridiculous.
xMagno313x i LOVE Fatigue Druid...it gets even funner when someone Emote spams me, cause i stop pressing End Turn until they stop...great fun, an hour spent in game against face hunter and all his Agro brothers.
I always loved the mad scientist's attack line because of how my brother says it. "FOOLS!!"
35:08 His face when he realized he got tirannosaurus rekt "ho crap"
When Trump plays that Paladin at 23:52, the Paladin plays three Piloted Sky Golems naturally from his hand! One at 25:55, another at 26:35 and a third at 27:28. Finally, proof that three of a card get played in games sometimes!
sentientchimp The card from sky golem was ambusher, and when he played second sky golem, trump killed ambusher....thats why he could throw "third" sky golem. LOL
Jelena Milojkovic lol ah geez, i feel like a moron. got so excited when i saw the third sky golem i totally forgot about the ambusher.
sentientchimp 26:48.. just saying..
What does Nefarian say to Jaraxxus/Ragnaros?
For Jaraxxus he says the same as for Warlock. For Ragnaros he says "Your magic is mine!" and gives you two Tail Swipes (4 mana/ 4 dmg)
DarkbloomTV
Let the Zoo begin
Too bad Ragnaros doesn't give 2 copies of "Die Insect" from the single player
DarkbloomTV "Your magic is mine!" According to hearthstone gamepedia
Amund Kringen Samuelsen What happens if u use Nefarian against Kel Thuzad ??
love how u allways say this is a good match up... 10 min later dead. most of the time :P
always make's me smile abit hehe :D
trump have you tried dragon paladin with a grim patron and add some activators like mad bomber or madder bomber for the grim patron i tested it vs a warrior grim and it worked suppressing to me very well .i have had a 5 to 1 win rate
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Shat the Fuck up no one cares and roses can be white as well
shuvo rahman so you say shat instead of shut then after swear....
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I play freeze mage and Kezan is such a bitch of a card. Like whoever runs it gets a free win against any freeze mage. Can't think of any card that is such a huge hard counter in the game
IAmOgliver thats why you run a kezan to steal it back
ThingsIDunno usually, if they're smart, they will steal it on lethal.
IAmOgliver it's the ultimate salt card.
IAmOgliver Nerubar Weblord counters Alexstrasza.
Boom. Hard counter.
IAmOgliver I actually stole a freezing trap from a face huntard,he couldn't play his anima golems and I ended up winning the match.
I've been trying this deck lately and it is very hard to play but also a lot of fun! but i'm not sure what to mulligan for... any adcive? :)
Always the card draw always!
moaaaaaaaaar frost mage!
Isn't lore + shapeshift and kill the alexstraza instead of hitting face a better play 100% of the time?@6:51
Can someone explain to me , why do you run 2 blizzard instead of 2 flamestrike as there are quite some patrons out there
Unethical is Face Hunter. Freeze mage at least involves some thinking and planning. Face Hunter is just a one thought process. Maybe you have a choice to be made if you need to silence something, but that is it.
Vendetta Gaming They are simply unethical for different reasons. Face Hunter is unethical because you trick the game into thinking you are good while freeze mage is unethical because it literally sucks every tiny bit of fun out of the game.
mac102938 I ll have to disagree, you are basically saying that ALL control decks are unethical.Freeze mage or control warrior are NOT grinder mage or mill druid.
havocgr1976
Since when are control decks not fun? Freeze mage literally takes the fun out for the freeze mage opponent.
mac102938 there is no difference between control decks and freeze mage. its all controlling the board. you thinking freeze mage is "worse" because you cant kill anything since you and your board is frozen is NO different than you not being able to kill the control warrior because he has 192085735 health.
Mustachioed Poro
The difference is that control warrior at least you know when you are winning and losing for the most part. With freeze mage, you have to essentially win the board and then kill the mage 3 times if the mage had good draw. Control warrior at least tries to take the board from time to time and doesn't have a fail proof way of winning every time with the right draw.
I see what you did there in your description Trump. :P
Drew -DAN- Mullett what did he do? i checked and found nothing.
Jordan McGarty " Go ninja, go! " a line from a song by Vanilla Ice.
Drew -DAN- Mullett it's also the name of the current season...
where can i get those deck-counting tools?
Good job mate!
I got an Arena run where twice I used Bane of Doom and I got Mal'Ganis and Illidan. The rest of the deck was garbage and my luck was bad but it was interesting.
Whats the "addon" called that shows his decklist
Welcome to the under 301 club, how can I help you?
Any replacement idea for Antonidas ?
ClemFunCrafter Sadly no. Maybe another pyroblast, but it's just not the same.
ClemFunCrafter Malygos is probably your best bet
Essentially he is your finisher. So add in another finisher.
ok thx :)
Why 6:17 he don't use the hero power to hit Trump face and use two cards change two cards and put the tree. Then he can win the game
35:07 it's a trap !
7:25 "good old paladin. paladins are a great matchup for this deck" -Trump 2k15.
then proceeds to lose to paladin twice in 30 minutes XD
was that healadin?
embarassed by that paladin, literally countered your every move
DmRushed overall he didn't do anything good that round. He didn't have kill in hand, yet still rushed Alexx. He didn't have anything which really needed immediate discount, yet still "rushed" Emperor. He threw the game, more than the Paladin countered him.
DmRushed whats up with you? I already see 3 comments here that are just you laughing about the paladin fight. He lost a game, big fucking deal. Get a life, kid.
Alex GoesNuts bit intense there.
insanetacohater can you blame him? Alex Goes Nuts...it's just who he is!
Hey Guys, I have a little problem and I hope you guys can help me..
I have enough dust to make a legendary, and the one i want to make are Tirion, Archmage or Hellscream.
Reasons for each:
Tirion: It is one of the best legendaries in the game, and then my paladin deck will be complete
Hellscream: My warrior deck will be complete and it will be alot easier to win games
Archmage: if it sticks there one turn you bassically have won the game, and then my freeze mage and every other type of mage will be completed.
I have most experience with mage but i also want to make the other ones
I have nearly all the neutral legendaries that are "must have"
so what to do...?
I'll take my value on the rocks.
Are u will never use golden cards?
He said that he doesn't use golden cards because it's easier for editing purposes. It also makes the deck list more uniform if you don't, unless you have all the golden cards you need.
I think I ll start immediately conceding with my freeze mage vs zoolock.Last one doesnt count, he played bad.Also damn when Alex is your last card ;/ And wth plays mystics?I been playing one for a whole month, I NEVER managed to steal even a hunters secret(and they were a LOT of scum).Sure I d probably do it vs a freeze mage but I havent seen one in months.
Actually I believe Trump had a shot in that last game.The play was blizzard and fireball face. This way he survives the ashbringer on 1 hp and next turn fireball n2 to break the block + block of his own. Then if the pally actually had no heals ( which was possible, because of kezan mystic, avenging wrath etc ) Trump wins by Pyro face :)
I really want to play this deck, but it's so expensive :/
Mischa Both I played it a long time with no Antonidas, only Alex (had her anyway thats why I made the deck) but the mage sure upped my wins considerably.Anyways, all control decks are expensive :(.
I'd recommend NOT playing it if you don't already have the deck and a mostly complete collection. I mean this deck is not bad but I feel like creating this deck is not first priority. Perhaps Midrange Druid would be good for a little less Dust and basically same win condition.
Seraphim Wolf Having crafted the combo druid lately I must say I agree.Only needed to craft 1 force of nature and you can play it without the legendary.Mostly play this when I wanna play control since I cant craft any other control deck.
Ok, m8 one more comment. I actually recommend Grim Patron Warrior. It is one of the most OP decks out there now and it's cheap.
I feel like Trump played the first paladin match so badly I don't see any reason to play Alex when you don't have almost any burn and certainly not enough to win
And he totally overlooked the blizzard ping play which left the enemy with a frozen 3-1
Anyway I do kind of understand you had a match against paladin as freeze mage where he healed about 20 hp and then I got him low and he healed another 10 with Alex
value!
I don't see why he conceded the last match, Paladin was at 11, ping+iceblock then pyro?
Carutsu Trump would automatically die on his next turn due to fatigue. There was no more move
oh fatigue, didn;t think of that
How important is pyroblast in freeze mage? You never even use it
FhtanMax It's important for when you don't draw Antonidas.
So its basically a 3rd way out, if you dont get antonidas or alexstraza?
FhtanMax Nah, Alextraza is core. You can win without it, but good luck with that
ItalyFPSPlayer I mean if you dont draw Alexstraza
FhtanMax Yeah, I said that you have to draw alexstraza anyway.
Pokemon where?
I wanna see what happens with the Jolteon :v
Peshkatz fights the kimono girl with an umbreon "hmm that looks like an electric type pokemon" look at the name trump, the name! its screaming that its dark or ghost type.
I saw the episode already, I'm waiting for ep28 to watch him get rekt by Jolteon
Nice Vid Trump =D
He could have won the last game. On the last turn he should have blizzard and fireball face. (probably still alive) turn after fireball ice block. then pyro. am I right?
Troll Axe Thrower No, he'd die to fatigue cause he was not able to freeze pal's face.
Prison Trump 1 minute in - I'm sorry... Not sorry... hue hue
OCD confirmed at 8:41
Wouldn't have that Bane of Doom discarded by the Doomguard killed Trump without triggering the Ice Block?
Marc Shanahan No. It still would have killed Trump on the opponents turn triggering the block.
TheJTV100 I assume he's referring to the bug where Bane of Doom killed the hero (not minion) Majordomo Executus and won the game before his "deathrattle" could trigger. It's a good question - has anyone tested if it still works/works against players?
kezan for the win
for doomhammer
when was this video recorded hes not legend
Love
I really hate freeze mage as a deck.
Kay lets all go back to hunter meta
Start running Kezan Mystic lol
MrBaris115 I hate that too.
MrBaris115 As someone who has been laddering with Patron Warrior, I really don't mind either way tbh.
Although honestly I'll take huntard over freeze any day, that way my games go a lot quicker ^.^
The missplays are real
Name a deck in Magic the Gathering that is similar to freeze mage Answer: Esper Control
Well the answer us what is magic
Lol i ment question.... Shit
TheDueljosh Grixis Control?
Why did you give up at the end? That was just shameful.
Thanos is not card draw it's damage. 4 mana for 10 damage when you have both icelance. Come on Trump.
Michael Quigley Isn't it 6 for 14 since you need a frost bolt to activate the lances?
Either way it should be used for damage not card draw. If discounts even more.
agreed
"What the стол" ?)
why trump doesn't like golden cards?
Ricardo Calhau u must be new to the channel, he said a trillion times that he won't run a golden deck unless all the cards in it are all golden
loooool you got rekt so bad in these games, owned by a kezan mystic too
At least people knows who he is... No need to post on every thread about how trump "got rekt" #youdakindahaterrapperstalkabout
I allways smile when a Freeze Mage get rekt. Most annoying deck in the current meta by far.
franzlimit Do you play fucking Hunter? Freeze mage takes skill at least. Also, grim patron is much more annoying.
bububu I wrote a commentar which wasn't against cancer I am so sorry.. Anyway it doesn't mather if Freeze mage needs skill, it is still the most annoying deck. No interaction at all.. It just forces you to rush without extending the board.
franzlimit It forces you to play in a smart way, I don't like being matched up against Freeze too, but it's a "cool" deck.
Brasil porra!!!!!
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gottay say trump had some awfully ugly hands in these games a lot of the time
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Freeze mage is so boring to watch
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:c Who told you that?