Great deck! Used this to climb from rank 15 to 10 in one evening. I don't have Elise yet so I use instead that new Paladin weapon that summons minions after each attack. I find it has pretty good synergy with that other card puts all minions at 3/3 and it counters the Warriors a bit after they complete their quest. This deck has saved hearthstone for me as a control player just as I was about to quit, thanks Trump!
Nick D yeah that's very specific. decks get countered and at the end of the day I said I like the card not that it's going to be top tier in every deck
u know what, Trump isn't the best player i know, he read the power level of this expansion wrong but he has something that makes him a good streamer and keep me watching his videos, on 20:20 in the video u can see what i'm talking about, he's humble and that's the best part of this channel, cheers...
I have murloc quest shaman and rogue quest but my favorite deck is a budget secret mage i built... so weird! The win condition is steal or destroy opponents quest
Paladin has been my favorite class since Beta, so I'm glad you finally get to it, even more glad that this deck actually looks good! Such a value class, so the Pres... hum I mean, mayor of value town has got to play it right ! Keep up the good work Trump
I've been playing Midranged Pally for a while now on ladder. Jackie4chans's list runs lightfused with jungle, darkness and vinecleaver. What i love most about stegadon is that you could give your silver hand recruits poisonous and it deals with the quest rogues 5/5 easily. it also dealt with aggro easily with making them taunt.
well you won against the quest-worlock and it was the best match-up for the worlock, however the doomsayer going of was a huge tempo-swing that more often then not, are not going to happen. So I am not ready to give up on the deck jet!
Try a murloc version of midrange pala. It is more consistent for you to do progress into mid ~ late game. Also used 2 stonehill defender because this is one of the best card for paladin (i know it is neutral) since it can discover Wickerflame, the new 6mana taunt legendary, Tirion or Primordial Drake ( can be combo with Equality incase you used your concencration ).
An idea for thought. If Spikeridged Steed's text was "Give a minion +2/+6 and Taunt. Summon a Stegodon" would it have better value, worse, or about the same?
Sun Keeper is kinda like a combination of Keeper of Uldamon, Eadric, and Quartermaster all in one. Pretty powerful card when used in the right situation.
Discard lock is great, with tonnes of draw and discard cards. Heavy push. Interesting you never ran, the Stegadon for the silver hands. :( or atleast put an archetype of staged and buffs for a silver hand adapt.
wouldn't the legendary that when you cast a spell upon, it casts the same spell on another 1/1 minion it spawns be good in this deck? Like you almost auto win the game when you cast a spikeridged steed on it.
Let's see how long usernames can get,I guess they can pretty damn long like really long It's pretty good because you can pretty much pick whichever secret is best in your situation (you choose one of three, and there are 5 in total in standard) without wasting space in your deck for it (so it's like running 32 cards in 30 card deck, those 2 cards being any of 5 available secrets), AND it has ok-ish body that can trade into some 3/2s (or bigger guys if you picked repentance), AND it is a murloc, so you can fit Curator into your deck (and for example stampeding kodo and primordial drake) for draw later in game (and to ensure that your later topdeck won't be 2/2 murloc, but some heavier stuff)
DankMemez Elemental mage and shaman. Ramp druid. jade druid. aggro rogue or miracle rogue. Murloc shaman. all of those have decklists on competitivehs subreddit if you want lists.
I think this deck is more control than midrange. This deck has a lot of endgame but not enough early game: doomsayer, pyromancer, stonehill, acolyte are all early drops but all are slow and seek value later in the game. The fact that the curve is dangerously heavy (5 6 drops in a midrange deck???) makes the deck slower than it actually seems. I think "midrange paladin" is a misnomer and the title should reflect the actual nature of this deck: control.
Any cards from Un'goro that you all want to put in every deck like how loatheb or Dr. Boom was? Still sitting on my 9.000 dust dont know what to get. Thinking about mage control elemental or some other control jazz.
I was never a fan of rush down. That'll get boring fast. I'm tired of seeing it and haven't even done it yet. I always played control warrior, Handlock, midrange paladin or reno mage etc. looking for something new but control-ish.
The rogue quest shouldn't get its first tick when you play one minion. Should be after you play something that you already played. Also the pally quest at 6 buffs is too much. 5 is more competitive
i really want to try this deck but im missing rag, elise and sunkeeper and only have enough dust for one right now. which is most important and what are some good replacements?
Shockking21 I wouldn't recommend crafting any if you have little dust. Neither of the paladin legendaries are viable in any other deck, Elise is questionable and Paladin hasn't done well for long since standard. Save for a more universal legendary or use the dust to make a complete deck.
Tilted Frog that may be true but i have fine warlock hunter and pirate decks and im not really interested in playing rogue or mage this expansion (plus im missing too many cards). i like midrange decks and midrange paladin used to be my favorite back in the muster days. also it seems that elise is in pretty much every slow deck and outside her there don't seem to be many multipurpose legendaries in this expansion.
OK that's fair. My bad, I took your comment as meaning that you didn't have any other deck. I too am a long term paladin player and after the standard rotation I ended up spending 10,000 dust on N'zoth Palidan, which very quickly sunk into uselessness. I've played quite a bit of this Mid-range since I saw the video and would definitively recommend sun keeper for this, as he is really versatile, with buffing your minions and shrinking your opponents. He also won't rotate out for 2 years unlike rag. As for Elise she is very much a tech card, I simply am trying other cards in her place as I don't have her (such as ooze, gollacker crawler or dirty rat)
Elize is definitely better than Malchezaer. She doesn't dilute the deck's card draw as much so cards can be combo'ed easier. But opening the pack can often be a question of is there enough room to add 5 random cards to the hand? I don't think the pack could be played in a control match up until one side was losing the value can and hence low on cards. The pack is a lifesaver at that point but its still inflexible to use.
When rag goes "live insect" but it heals itself
FleekShot self depreciation for the win
"poor priest, i don't feel bad for him. He stole my Tirion I'm the victim here"
- every paladin player
instablaster
Great deck! Used this to climb from rank 15 to 10 in one evening.
I don't have Elise yet so I use instead that new Paladin weapon that summons minions after each attack. I find it has pretty good synergy with that other card puts all minions at 3/3 and it counters the Warriors a bit after they complete their quest.
This deck has saved hearthstone for me as a control player just as I was about to quit, thanks Trump!
Hydrologist: 2 mana 2/2 "Draw a Getaway Kodo"
These thumbnails have been hilarious Jens thank you
I am reallly loving spikeriged steed. Against agro its perfect xD
Nick D two mortal strikes at 6?
sometimes but if you actually have a deck then you can stand up against it...
Nick D oddly specific
Nick D yeah that's very specific. decks get countered and at the end of the day I said I like the card not that it's going to be top tier in every deck
*cought* hex *cough*
u know what, Trump isn't the best player i know, he read the power level of this expansion wrong but he has something that makes him a good streamer and keep me watching his videos, on 20:20 in the video u can see what i'm talking about, he's humble and that's the best part of this channel, cheers...
I feel like paladin cards have the best intros.
1DiabolicalGenius
I could agree...
but Barnabus
But
COME FORTH, COWARD!
Is still about the flashiest intro a class legendary has. Sans Jaraxxus.
white eyes has a sick one too
Jens did you just put a Danganronpa 3 sound effect in my Hearthstone video? I knew I loved this channel for a reason.
I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICE ABOUT THAT, I went to the comment section only for that lol
Where?
24:18
Legends say JayNova is still out there today, trying to justify his golden lakkari sacrifice...
Golden clutchmother zavas as well. He really believed in quest warlock
I love watching trump hopelessly stumbling around in the dark after a new expansion as he watches his predictions crumble around him
Jake Verrilli Edgy.
Skipperino Trumperino: 2:47
Unit Lost Just no.
y would u want to skip him?
Hello everyobody, It's me, Sty. Jeff had ripped a fart, carzy news!
Unit Lost hey stylosa
Skip the best part?
Great stuff man, I just finished watching your last vid and you upload another.
I have murloc quest shaman and rogue quest but my favorite deck is a budget secret mage i built... so weird! The win condition is steal or destroy opponents quest
am I the only one that hasn't played a jade druid once since the expansion?
erich casey Thank God
not one. also on NA server around ranks 5-3 i very seldom see a pirate warrior.
Only Jade cards I've seen have been in hybrid Jade/Elemental Shaman builds.
On day 1 I ran into a few of them. But I've seen only 1 in the past couple days.
Jade druid is stronger now than it was based on my research, we won't see it popularised until someone plays it in tournament and wins though.
I have a fealing that in future Defias Cleaner might actually see some play. Considering Priest quest and Spikeridged Steed.
Toothless Cat Quest priest is not played very much : (
Decklist: www.hearthpwn.com/decks/803878-ungoro-trump-midrange-paladin-doyle-discoveries
daddy Jens is feeding me the good stuff today
Paladin has been my favorite class since Beta, so I'm glad you finally get to it, even more glad that this deck actually looks good! Such a value class, so the Pres... hum I mean, mayor of value town has got to play it right !
Keep up the good work Trump
>That Danganronpa 3 sound at 24:18
Brings me bad memories man
I've been playing Midranged Pally for a while now on ladder. Jackie4chans's list runs lightfused with jungle, darkness and vinecleaver. What i love most about stegadon is that you could give your silver hand recruits poisonous and it deals with the quest rogues 5/5 easily. it also dealt with aggro easily with making them taunt.
Hi Jens, nice editing there
ANY ADVICE? - Should I spend my dust on a deck now or wait till a more established meta? Keep in mind, pretty much an entirely f2p player.
So I teched in a dirty rat in exchange of a stonehill. The idea is I can counter mage quest and rogue quest. Do you think is worth it?
Even if it is not worth it. It will be fun when it works.
Thumbnails are on point as usual
"yo nigga, i've done it" - hydrologist
well you won against the quest-worlock and it was the best match-up for the worlock, however the doomsayer going of was a huge tempo-swing that more often then not, are not going to happen. So I am not ready to give up on the deck jet!
the thumbnails are top tier stuff
The uploads! So much value
The hydrologist is such a funny card, I think it's supposed to say "Eureka! I've done it!" but it sounds more like "Yo ni**a I've done it!"
Try a murloc version of midrange pala. It is more consistent for you to do progress into mid ~ late game. Also used 2 stonehill defender because this is one of the best card for paladin (i know it is neutral) since it can discover Wickerflame, the new 6mana taunt legendary, Tirion or Primordial Drake ( can be combo with Equality incase you used your concencration ).
Funny enough I think he tried something similar yesterday
Did he do well with it? I am currently rank 4 with that deck.
Yakchew oh I can't remember, wasn't paying too much attention, but I'm sure Jens will upload those matches eventually
Considering youre playing Spikeridge Steed, could it be good to hide 2 of the "Buff all minions in hand" guys behind it?
I did pretty much the same thing, except with handbuff. Works pretty well.
Is it worth crafting the mage? wich deck are you supposing now to craft from midrange/combo/controll category?
An idea for thought. If Spikeridged Steed's text was "Give a minion +2/+6 and Taunt. Summon a Stegodon" would it have better value, worse, or about the same?
Alex Val Good question. Probably slightly better.
Sun Keeper is kinda like a combination of Keeper of Uldamon, Eadric, and Quartermaster all in one. Pretty powerful card when used in the right situation.
Hearthstone noob here. What addon are you using to see your decklist on the side? And the winrate?
I see Paladin, I click.
These thumbnails are amazing
i love the 22:50 string of events lmao
With every expansion A hero rises
And a hero falls
Awesome deck man!
Member playing a Yeti on turn 4? Member playing Cairne on turn 6?
Schlagwerk Funker oh, i member!
This brings tears in my eyes.
Well it was either that or stepping on a lego.
Member "V O 7TR ON"?
Member mechs?
Discard lock is great, with tonnes of draw and discard cards. Heavy push.
Interesting you never ran, the Stegadon for the silver hands. :( or atleast put an archetype of staged and buffs for a silver hand adapt.
Sunkeeper Tarim is really good. Got me out of some really sticky situations tbh.
thank u for going through the theory crafting and thought process, not many other big hearthstoners do that
Why would you run tar creeper over wickerflame burnbristle?
I'd love to play this deck! Guess I'll better go sell myself on the street because playing this game costs your soul.
I swear the hydrologist says "young nigga" when played
at 22:47 wouldn't it be right to sunkeeper trade
wouldn't the legendary that when you cast a spell upon, it casts the same spell on another 1/1 minion it spawns be good in this deck? Like you almost auto win the game when you cast a spikeridged steed on it.
for 10 mana LUL
It's too inconsistent if you can only get value by comboing it with Spikeridged Steed.
Well your plantlock is pretty good
stonehill is amazing for value in pally..best taunts in the bizz
I was watching the vod and just thinking, how is this deck doing so well??? Is it really just variance? Where is the unfairness of the deck?
Why are you avoiding making a quest rogue deck trump?
What does @Trump use to show his deck on the side in games
hsdecktracker (dot) net is where you'll find it. It's awesome
I got 1800 dust, what should I craft??
midrange control paladin is already very popular in china, why is no1 running it in na till now
has anybody even seen a big cluthmother yet the highest ive seen on ladder is a 4/4
parker wicht , same thought I had watching the discard lock deck
gotten to 8/8 highest. average is 4/4
parker wicht got a 16/16 against taunt warrior, didn't work out
Is Ragnaros lightlord Even necessary for this Deck ?
Would hand paladin work?
That unfortunate unicorn deck at the end XD
Does anyone know if recruit paladin is a thing in wild?
What's the hyoe over Hydrologist?To me it looks like hot garbage
Let's see how long usernames can get,I guess they can pretty damn long like really long
It's pretty good because you can pretty much pick whichever secret is best in your situation (you choose one of three, and there are 5 in total in standard) without wasting space in your deck for it (so it's like running 32 cards in 30 card deck, those 2 cards being any of 5 available secrets), AND it has ok-ish body that can trade into some 3/2s (or bigger guys if you picked repentance), AND it is a murloc, so you can fit Curator into your deck (and for example stampeding kodo and primordial drake) for draw later in game (and to ensure that your later topdeck won't be 2/2 murloc, but some heavier stuff)
22:35 Is it just me or is the Hydrologist saying "Yo niggah, i've done it!" when you play him?!
What decks besides cancer rogue are viable?
DankMemez Elemental mage and shaman. Ramp druid. jade druid. aggro rogue or miracle rogue. Murloc shaman. all of those have decklists on competitivehs subreddit if you want lists.
And taunt warrior.
5:57 Why not Lost > Sunkeeper
I think this deck is more control than midrange. This deck has a lot of endgame but not enough early game: doomsayer, pyromancer, stonehill, acolyte are all early drops but all are slow and seek value later in the game. The fact that the curve is dangerously heavy (5 6 drops in a midrange deck???) makes the deck slower than it actually seems. I think "midrange paladin" is a misnomer and the title should reflect the actual nature of this deck: control.
Ungoro was such a cool expansion.
Any cards from Un'goro that you all want to put in every deck like how loatheb or Dr. Boom was? Still sitting on my 9.000 dust dont know what to get. Thinking about mage control elemental or some other control jazz.
1DiabolicalGenius Elise is Nice but if you want wins Craft rogue quest
1DiabolicalGenius yeah elise is the way to go
Dont worry, I have not yet wasted any dust except on a golden Sunkeeper and Elise. Otherwise I am just waiting for the meta to stabilise. But I agree
I was never a fan of rush down. That'll get boring fast. I'm tired of seeing it and haven't even done it yet. I always played control warrior, Handlock, midrange paladin or reno mage etc. looking for something new but control-ish.
Try this deck then. Nzoth paladin might be also viable
I stopped playing Hearthstone for like 5 months but if paladin is a thing again I have to come back.
i thought his elemental mage was decent too, although missing a bit of a win condition, with some polish it would probably turn out great
Is trump playing on his smurf account? Or what's up with his in-game name?
not sure if the deck is actually that good if you play against tier 2-3 decks, but it is an interesting idea that should investigated.
The rogue quest shouldn't get its first tick when you play one minion. Should be after you play something that you already played. Also the pally quest at 6 buffs is too much. 5 is more competitive
Did Trump really change his battle tag to Your opponent or that is just some editing magic?
He calls himself your opponent, that`s genious.
It would be cool if Blizzard would reveal the cards for curious root when the guess is wrong.
i really want to try this deck but im missing rag, elise and sunkeeper and only have enough dust for one right now. which is most important and what are some good replacements?
Shockking21 I wouldn't recommend crafting any if you have little dust. Neither of the paladin legendaries are viable in any other deck, Elise is questionable and Paladin hasn't done well for long since standard.
Save for a more universal legendary or use the dust to make a complete deck.
Tilted Frog
that may be true but i have fine warlock hunter and pirate decks and im not really interested in playing rogue or mage this expansion (plus im missing too many cards). i like midrange decks and midrange paladin used to be my favorite back in the muster days.
also it seems that elise is in pretty much every slow deck and outside her there don't seem to be many multipurpose legendaries in this expansion.
wish i got to see how this deck did against taunt warrior and rogue though since that's pretty much all i seem to play against
Tilted Frog Ragnaros Lightlord is viable in Elemental Paladin
OK that's fair. My bad, I took your comment as meaning that you didn't have any other deck. I too am a long term paladin player and after the standard rotation I ended up spending 10,000 dust on N'zoth Palidan, which very quickly sunk into uselessness. I've played quite a bit of this Mid-range since I saw the video and would definitively recommend sun keeper for this, as he is really versatile, with buffing your minions and shrinking your opponents. He also won't rotate out for 2 years unlike rag. As for Elise she is very much a tech card, I simply am trying other cards in her place as I don't have her (such as ooze, gollacker crawler or dirty rat)
Love Trump's No Game No Life shirt
Where is the vorax
15:21 oh my god get a room
How did Trump missed Vorax Stegodon value?
Is that a ngnl shirt?
holy shit sunkeeper tarim wreckage
I think Elise Starseeker is Trump's true waifu
Did Trump change gametag?
Elize is definitely better than Malchezaer. She doesn't dilute the deck's card draw as much so cards can be combo'ed easier. But opening the pack can often be a question of is there enough room to add 5 random cards to the hand? I don't think the pack could be played in a control match up until one side was losing the value can and hence low on cards. The pack is a lifesaver at that point but its still inflexible to use.
Mr. president, is that shirt from no game no life(anime thing)
sunkeeper tarim beast pally card, so strong
Why Trump's name was "your opponent"?
o god the feeling is good when u beat aggro hunter
trump changed his name to "Your Opponent"?
Oh boy, that green trump in the thumbnail
ivory Knight just bad now? did too many Paladin spells rotate out?
Build a deck around Swamp king dread
Kinda sad that Voraxx is not in the deck for turn 10 automatic win. :P
why is it called midrange?
Tellie Gamezz because its very strong midgame
Tellie Gamezz Because it has the most value during turns 5-6
ForGlory Scrubs and Iban De Brock thanks!
YOU PUT IN THE WRONG DOOMSAYER!
Waiting for the moment Trump tries out Quest Rogue :D
I am not waiting to see more cancer than my ladder games.
Alltho I am currently playing hunter to climb.......
Ban all rogues from ladder!