How To Install A Subfloor
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Let me know if you have questions about the difference between tile and other installs. Cheers!
Man, I really love your channel. Thanks
England calling Jeff love your videos totally glued to them never feel the need to 'skip' through like many others, keep them coming lad. Btw did you fail your 5th grade maths? 45"+ 11" = 56 whoops!!
Loving it. Cheers mate!
We have carpet and tile in our master bedroom/ bath. I am wanting to be putting in vinyl flooring on the concrete and would like to put the vinyl over the tile can I do that? I know that I need to rais up the floor to match the tile flooring. I have been looking at different ways to do this. One being self-leveling concrete or plywood with a vapor barrier. Which would you advise?
The plywood : I would have done the contraire...! Thank you so much . So logic but contraire to général Woodworking ;)
It's like watching Bob Ross for remodeling. Hope I'm not the only on old enough to get that reference. You're awesome dude.
You are not alone.
As a Muncie native I love this reference!
I’m 17 and I love Bob Ross, so you’re definitely not too old! I agree completely. This guy is awesome
I would fall asleep to Bob Ross it was nice and relaxing watching his show. I went to a local radio station Halloween party about 5 years ago dressed as Bob Ross and my wife was the easel with a painting that she did watching a episode on UA-cam. We got 2nd place everybody loved the costume.
If I subscribe to his channel it will LITERALLY be because of your comment
I am now 80 and have bad knees so it is hard to get down on the floor. My floors are 1/2 in plywood topped with 7/16 in particle board. At least I think it is particle board, that is what it looks like to me. I have some bad flooring in my house but the bathrooms are the worst and I will have to fix them soon. I am mechanically inclined but not much experience in building or construction. I love watching your home repair videos, they are the best of the best in my opinion.
My Dad and his brother built the house I grew up in. My Dad and his brother were both talented in mechanical things. They could work on cars, build houses, pour concrete and do masonry work, etc. But I always thought my Dad was a perfectionist, and he thought his brother was a super perfectionist. One time he told me "you know how most houses the corners are not perfectly square? In that house all the corners are square." They measured the ends of the roof rafters (no trusses in 1946), and cut and sanded them until they could draw a string along them and get a straight line. My Dad said his brother would drive three nails where one was required. He said " I think he just liked to hammer nails." It was a two bedroom house and they ended up with 6 kids so it got a little crowded, but that is the home of my memories.
I love watching your videos. You are obviously very talented.
Excellent videos.
Lost both my dad and my father-in-law the last couple of months, all in the middle of renovating. Any skills they didn't get time to teach me I've got 'em from this guy.
Lost my dad 6 months before purchasing my first property, Jeff has become my DIY stepdad.
@@4KGofMaul Sorry to hear about your father.
This guy's a great teacher. I've since become a professional painter and decorator and am currently working on a 180+ year old heritage arch.
I definitely owe a debt of gratitude to some of the skills I've learnt from this Jeff. (Jeff was also my father's name and I'm Jeff Jr!)
@@jeffkeogh1982 That's quite a journey, congrats! I'm in the process of stripping back a 100 year old house and redoing all the flooring, skimming the walls, repairing/changing all the terrible finishing jobs etc. Jeff is a bit of a one stop shop for me whenever I'm learning new things.
Resecured a subfloor and overboarded with ply today based on this vid, painted the room last week based on his 'how to paint like a pro' video and got a brilliant end result etc.
Jeff, you are the guardian angel of homeowners everywhere. I scheduled a bathroom demo & remodel at the start of the year. My general contractor disappeared without a trace and I had all my materials. The only general contractor who would even quote the project for me wanted 4X the reasonable rate (and he said “thank the pandemic”). Knowing you’re here made it possible for me to do 80% of the work myself. From the whole demo, electrical, (some of) the plumbing, the rough-in of the shower (with inverted shelf), replacement of some of the subfloor, and all new underlayment (thanks to this video). There aren’t enough THANK YOU’s in the word. You’re a guardian angel 🙏🙏🙏
This is EXACTLY the kind of video I subscribed to this channel to watch. Master class from a pro! Explains materials used, detailed installation instructions, how to use simple tools to get where you want to go. And taking the time to do it right. Looking forward to the rest in this bathroom series. As somebody else pointed out, 45+11= 56. Hope you caught that one by the time you got to the cutting station! More of this kind of detailed content, please. Thanks for creating the BEST home improvement channel on UA-cam!
LOL, Sometimes my tongue runs ahead of my brain. Just ask my wife. Cheers!
Yep, thought there was a 1 dropped... :)
Man am I glad I found your channel. The "don't cut corners" was a real attention-getter, and just what I was after.
Really enjoying your teaching style. It’s so crucial that you are considering your average diy-er when you do these. It’s clear that you’ve thought through how to teach it for that purpose! Cheers!
Glad you like them!
Man, thank you so much for this particular video on installing plywood over existing hardwood floors. I'm about to tackle a 2nd floor master suite following this insight; the 100+ year old hardwood floor squeaks and shifts so much that you can hear every footstep directly underneath on the 1st floor. This is a huge help.
im about to start the same; any tips? did you put any kind of sound dampener between the old boards and new plywood?
So glad i watched this. Im going to have to redo my rugs. I was just going to rip up the old and lay down the new.
Well, not now. I will be adding sub floor. Better hear retention and also a great sound barrier. Ty
You sir are the best thing that’s has happened to me since I purchased my home. I installed an entire subfloor and vinyl floor thanks to your videos. I will be tackling all of my trim next thanks to you again. ❤
Unbelievable channel, I can’t even imagine how much money you have saved for so many people!
You make everything look so easy, I like how you work you don’t cut corners, I’m the same way, but a lot slower, thanks for your videos
oh I'm so relieved to know I'm not the only DIY turtle in here
Its nice that Michelle loves Jeff! Says so right in the drywall!
Lol
Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you! Thank you for putting that transition before the monetization. I absolutely hate it when I’m watching something and it just cuts to the advertisement. That little smooth transition that you did, perfection!
The cut and taped saw cord, the love letter on the wall and taking pictures of your diagrams really makes me smile, we have some things in common.
Cheers Lloyd!
Great video, once again!! Thank You Sir!
And nice seeing "Michelle Loves Jeff ❤️" on the wall. :)
We are Just a couple Love birds celebrating 30 years together. cheers!
What is the size of screws you use please ?
66 yr old female now totally ready for my sub floor i stall. What a great teacher !
I'm electrician by trade, Jeff is giving you a sound tutorial on his electrical installations , listen to this guy. Since I'm a one trick pony , I always go to his videos for the other trades that I'm clueless to, Jeff is the master.
AS a long time DIYer I didn't know about the right way that you explained in this video to lay the plywood. I knew about the screw from the middle and why and typically do that with any kind of sheet goods. I'll be telling my son about this on our project this afternoon.
I died when I saw the plunge cut technique. Pro move of the year. I would have run out and got a jigsaw or something like a noob. Also I use tips you've taught me in every project we do, thank you so much!
Cheers Cam. !
I wouldn't say using a jig saw there is a noob move... I think a lot of people would prefer that to leaving sloppy overcuts
When you’re doing this DIY, you can afford to spend the extra 5 minutes plugging in a jig saw and drilling a pilot hole. The plunge cuts are a “pro” move only in that they’re rapid and save a professional time that they can make more money with. In this case, the time savings are lessened by the extra screws he’s having to drive to hold the two sides of the cuts to the actual subfloor.
Same!!
@@jasenrock Didn't say you did. I said using a jigsaw there isn't a noob move.
The 'ol circular saw plunge cut is a perfect for this application rather than messing with a jigsaw round cut...it gets the job done as a flange cutout ain't cabinet cutting. Nice work!!
Subfloor is definitely not finish carpentry. Cheers!
Thanks! First time home owner here, after watching this I feel so much better about doing my floors.
We just moved into a Queen Anne Victorian built by German immigrants in 1870! This video is SO HELPFUL for our bathroom renovation. Practically identical.
At least you know the structure was engineered right. Cheers!
These videos are seriously 10/10 whereas most others are maybe a 2/10. Such deep knowledge.
Jeff, you have DECIMATED the "other" home improvement UA-cam channels ....which has made my life SO much easier!!! I thank you, sir
! Question for you... I'm laying a 3/4" plywood surface over a 1/2" original subfloor in a bathroom. Do I use an 1 1/4" flooring screw?
Thanks Peter, and you will need 1 3/4 at least probably you will find 2". Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Jeff, I'm really confused now! Would think you'd want to tie everything together tightly but was looking at the Schluter Ditra Installation Handbook and it states on page 17 where it talks about plywood underlayment installation guidelines..."The Following Guidelines Must Be Followed When Fastening Underlayment Panels:
1. Ring shank nails or wood screws (no drywall screws)
2 FASTENERS MUST PASS THROUGH ENTIRE THICKNESS OF UNDERLAYMENT AND SUBFLOOR AND PANELS WITH MINIMAL PENETRATION INTO JOISTS.
???????
I'm trying to do a small patch on my subfloor before putting new flooring in. I've watched two of your videos and have already learned so much. For example I did not know how to fix squeaking in floors. An old repair done by previous owners has squeaked since I have lived in my home. I was just going to leave that section alone. Now I know I could possibly fix the issue by simply adding some screws! You do great at being clear and concise in your videos making it easy to understand.
I really appreciate your videos. I have been watching you for quite awhile now. Thank you for always going in depth and providing your expert advice!
screwing down subfloor is a must no matter what type of floor your installing. I screw down the subfloor like crazy and eliminate all squeeks and movements.
I always glue and screw
@@zacattack45 same, ivve ran into several contractors who glue and put minimal screws and the floor squeaks like a 100 year old house
Thank you, another one of the best videos on UA-cam for this essential process for flooring.
The standard subfloor & underlayment thickness is 1.25"
Insulate underneath subfloor, ensure it's well screwed to joists with 2.5" flooring or construction screws.
Lay largest piece of plywood possible, to get factory edges. 4:56
Layout U shape up, screw every 2" right up along perimeter edge,6"- 8" on the body (hands width).
Stagger joints, 1/2" of space against the wall.
What is the size of the fasteners for the underlayment to subfloor?
Schulter ditra recommends an 1/8" gap between panels, and 1/4" from perimeter, is that an building practice based on a standard?
This is underlayment installed on the subfloor right?
Thanks Jeff for all the knowledge. Got an accepted offer on my first house, it's a real fixer upper. It's go time.
i did this in my home and i appreciate knowing i went about everything the right way
I also snap lines so I know I'm hitting my joist then I screw thru out . That w liquid nail my floor is having no movent
2:21 imaginary long hair
Loving it!
Thank you Jeff!
Your amazing skill & humility is greatly appreciated.
God bless!
Thanks for your videos. I'm getting ready to do some projects on my house and I'm a little hesitant due to my very basic knowledge. Thank you so much for your info and the demonstrations. I'm building up a lot more confidence after watching your videos.
SUBBED!
45 + 11 is 56 not 55.
I caught that as well
In another comment he said he just said it wrong, got it right in the brain though.
@@MurkleQ True, but he still wrote down 55 on the wood :)
@@buzzly108 I see... Ahahaha
@@MurkleQ He definitely messed it up for real. Check @23:38 where he has to slide it as far as possible to the right (because he misaligned the toilet flange by an inch) and thus the drawings don't match up ;)
Good Grief! The amount of information you put into one short video is impressive. After all this time, I'm still your #1 fan!
Thanks for always being there Sandi, Don't know what we would have done without your support. Cheers!
Watching this video, I see every mistake I made in our bathroom when we were remodeling our 1907 house. We're redoing the bathroom this summer and now I know what to fix. Thanks for the amazing videos Jeff. You are literally the best home/diy channel on UA-cam bar none.
Glad it was helpful! Cheers!
Agree 100%. Jeff is the best!
Love your videos, such high quality and step by step instructions! Keep up the great work, and thank you for everything!
Thanks and Cheers!
I see that "Michelle Loves Jeff" on the dry wall back there!
She likes to leave me notes. Cheers!
how long should your screws be for 15/32 plywood into another 15/32 plywood?
Do the math. Exceed the code and go one inch into through it. So, use 2” screws.
I like you measuring technique with the t square and framing square.....GREAT VIDEOS!
God bless you for all you do and all you have taught Jeff.
What driver and bit is he using? Can't find what he's using at Home Depot.
Looks like this
Milwaukee Shockwave Impact Duty #2 Philips 6 in. Steel Driver Bit
www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-Shockwave-Impact-Duty-2-Philips-6-in-Steel-Driver-Bit-48-32-4802/202653583
The video has perfect conditions. Just replaced sub flooring that had water damage over 1500 square feet trailer home. Had floor joist with a flooring grid over top. I hope you come with video that simplifies glue subfloor to grid over floor joist. Plus adding support to new sub floor.
just filmed this work
Had to do my whole house in preparation for new engineered flooring. Bought a Senco screw gun. One of the best tools I own.
Absolutely the best video I’ve ever seen.... brilliant! Thank you!
screws are much cheaper vs 1000s of $ of potential water damage when the toilet moves...great job.
This is one area of the house where being a little neurotic is a good thing. Cheers!
The toilet is attached to the flange not the floor. Technically as long as your flange is strongly secure and your toilet is secure to that you will have no issues
I always thought Toilet Flange should be on Top of the Final Floor
It doesn't have to be but it will help so that you don't have to buy an extended toilet flange wax ring.
Yes the toilet flang has to be installed atop of finished floor or as on professional building prints it is labeled AFF and it is almost always local and state building codes.
Been watching and gaining knowledge for my bath remodeling, thank you Jeff!
I love everything you show/teach on your channel. I will be installing Riobel shower system, great product. Keep up the great work. PERFECT ALL THE TIME.
Why do you always use an extension bit on your impact?
Nicholas Glambeck probably so he doesn’t have to bend over so far. It’s better for the back.
Aren't toilet flanges suppose to be on top of the finished floor? Even in this case it's "embedded" in the floor.
This happens in every situation where you will be adding tile after you remove a vinyl layer. The secret to installing the toilet is in the next video. Cheers!
Yes, that is what I understand is best too.
Raymond Kolbe Can always extend the flange, than use longer closet bolts
This is what I was going to ask as well. I haven't done tile tho. I've only installed subfloor on bare joists, and floating laminate flooring on top, so there are clearly scenarios I haven't come across. I saw that tho and was like "wait, what?" ... interested to see the next video with more info on the toilet flange. Thank you
Learned so much from this, thank you! That t-square and rafter square setup is a game changer.
Cheers Brendon, makes measuring so easy...now all, i have to do is learn how to read a tape.
Good presentation of the available camping items with clear explanation.... Happy camping ahead...
I'm watching second time XD now "I know kung-fu" ( matrix )
installing subfloors monday and i feel like he knew...hmm
Just lucky I guess, Cheers!
good stuff ; i learn a lot from you, thanks for being detailed, every cut, and measurement is you explained well... thanks for not speeding -up the video.
Here I thought he'd be teaching subfloor installation. All of a sudden I'm learning how to roll pizza dough! Awesome video, once again from the Bruce Lee of DIY!
NEVER screw screws into a floor unless you know what's underneath it, for example pipes and cables.
"Use your hand like a protractor" - no, use your hand like a compass. A protractor measures angles, a compass draws circles.
Great tip on the ply shrinking. Cheers Mate!
Love your videos - learning lots -for my Covid building projects :)
I love this channel! I feel like i can accomplish any DIY with the help this channel. so well explained!
Very helpful, in all detail, good instruction, with explanation of why. Thank you!
Super interesting about screwing the plywood down. Makes a lot of sense and never thought about that! Thanks!!
Glad to help Scotty. Cheers!
The PLUNGE CUT tip has just saved me! THANK YOU!
Cheers Maya, # gamechanger!
Thank you for these videos!
You have the best energy dude.
The tip on plywood thickness was a great tip. Thank you very much.
Happy to help. Cheers!
I appreciate you! You remind me of Dean Johnson from Hometime! I miss those days! Keep bringing the videos.
love the old slide rule technique, and the skil saw rough cuts are on point, it is rough carpentry. Thanks for that tip. I just peeled off some 5/8 osb to take a high spot down. Prep is everything :)
Cheers lisa. Glad you get me!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY totally unrelated but i have plumbing code question....new drain and ptrap for wash machine needs to be 2 inch dia, correct? How does that tie into the existing 1 1/2" line out? Not allow to downsize that right? Does it need to be 2inch all the way out of the house??
I love that you used baking as a metaphor. Thanks for the education on how to lay plywood, it made sense once you said it.
Hi Mona, glad to be helpful. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY my daughter recommended your channel. She bought her first place and has been redoing the whole thing. Your help is tremendous!
Man, I wish I owned a house instead of renting. I would be renovating like crazy. You explain stuff very clearly.
Whatever it takes, short of robbing a bank get one. Cheers!
wonderful demonstration, many tips and hints
Amazing content. Thanks for sharing :)
getting ready to remodel my bathroom....re watching these videos...scared to death but love these to help ease my way
He is a great teacher. Great insight. Seems like a cool guy too
Your videos are awesome and very informative. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Great video, thanks. Can you please explain the advantage of using plywood vs OSB in this application? Thanks,
very informative on the plywood layout screwing!
informative....even if it is sounding crazy to think of!
Just the video I needed today ❤️
Great show.
Very helpful and informative.
Hi Jeff, great video!! I'm working on a similar bathroom reno. I have original 3/4" pine tongue & groove boards subfloor circa 1947. I'm adding 23/32 plywood, prepping for tile (or possibly vinyl like you). I'll be installing an acrylic shower pan - should I run the plywood underneath where shower base will be or just set it on the 3/4" original boards? I got 'BCX' plywood. Is this okay for laying tile (will the thinset stick)? Does the plywood screw only into the pine boards or do I need to tie into the joists as well?
Thank you for posting these videos! I have a question regarding: the doorway when adding a layer to the sub-floor: Is the line inside the room close enough? or should the raised sub-floor be extended to beneath the center line of the door (to where the true edge of the finished floor will be)? Thank you in advance!
Thank you for always making these vids!! 👍👍👍🤛🤛
Our Pleasure. Cheers!
I have never actually done any type of home renovation, and at 41, just recently bought my first home that is a new home build. I still fully enjoy how you walk us through the entire process from A to Z every time. PLEASE keep making all of these videos!
Greatly appreciate the ocd & all the extra time screwing everything down extra! Its really upsetting to not see everyone doing this anything less is clearly a reflection of a persons character! Jmo! Great video as always!
Or their pocket book. Overkill construction is my goal, but it's difficult when you can't afford it if you're on a tight budget with strict deadlines.
I seal my plywood also before screwing down with marine sealer. Reduces moisture in the air from getting into the wood and causing expansion/compression.
Hey Jeff great timing in this vid for me and my bathroom reno. Was wondering if glueing your ply and screwing would benefit? Also by raising the floor height, how would I be able to keep using bathtub drain? What do you recommend to raise the flange height without having to change plumbing? Thanks always great info!
always fun watch and great info, hello from Canada Alberta, doing renovation right now and fixing previous owner funny stuff....
Cheers to Alberta!
Made me want a circular saw! Excellent training video!
The most versatile tool you will ever own. Cheers!
Love this! The units I’m working on right now have plank subfloors. Building is 1927 so not as old as yours but the kitchen and bathroom were redone with osb and a thin layer of plywood a couple decades ago I’m guessing. It’s trashed. Florida humidity and rentals that sit vacant occasionally- the kitchen osb grew (helped by multiple leaks in the adjacent bathroom) so I’m ripping it all out to start fresh and hopefully get it to last and wear better this time around 😉
The best solution for protecting your investment is air conditioning. Cheers and good luck with your project!
Home RenoVision DIY thanks! It’s creeping along. And yes ac is happening!!!
I could watch you all day, you make things look so easy! I have to replace the floor where I want to put my shower as it is soft and spongy. Can I use cement sheets instead of the chip board flooring it presently has and if so what thickness does it have to be?
Hey Jeff, thanks for the video, you’ve helped me so much with my home construction projects. You’re an excellent teacher. One question, when installing new osb plywood on top of an old (100 yr) subfloor on my first floor for new hardwood install. Do you recommend using pl premium or other construction adhesive as well as screwing down to help with weak spots or where the screws don’t eliminate all the squeaking? Thank you.
excellent advice. Thank you. I am doing this right now in my living room. Should I do all of the boards, at all of the joists, and two per board?
I have a 1966 tri-level home where the subfloor has tons of cuts from either repairs or original construction, lots of dips and unevenness. I am considering doubling up on subfloor to help with noise level below and also with a smooth surface for installing flank flooring. Would you recommend I double up or replace all new flooring with 1-1/8 T&G?
I have 1950 3/4 shiplap on a angle. Pulled off old 1/4 undelayment and parquet that was stapled in 20 years ago. Putting in 1/2 plywood glued and stapled down for LVT. LVT needs 1/2 plywood over dimensional subfloor.
Wow what great advice Thanks for the info