Logic Pro Drummer | Advanced Tips for a Human Touch

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  • @pizza_ship_productions
    @pizza_ship_productions 10 місяців тому +4

    I randomly clicked on this for the drums and found you slaying the bass with some stank on it… nicely done all around

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  10 місяців тому

      Ha! Glad you found it and enjoyed it. Thanks so much!

  • @joewilliams5396
    @joewilliams5396 3 роки тому +26

    I tend to use Logic drummer without fills, cut where I want fills, go to Logic loops for fills and slot them in. If fills are not quite right I alter them in piano roll.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  3 роки тому +2

      Interesting technique....

    • @RayyMusik
      @RayyMusik 2 роки тому +2

      But do your fill samples have the same sound?

    • @joewilliams5396
      @joewilliams5396 2 роки тому +8

      @@RayyMusik I've found Logic matches the project sounds not the loop sound. If you use live recorded loops with effects inbedded they can be tricky. Logic drummer uses midi as you may know so midi loops are best. I find it takes too much time fidling with logic drummer to fine tune it, so I just get it roughly right.

    • @squalley
      @squalley 2 роки тому

      Thank You for the tip 🫶🏾🍻

  • @markhamilton8765
    @markhamilton8765 2 роки тому +16

    Where have you been in my life…I’ve been searching for a realistic and flexible drumming solution - you’ve delivered it here in spades! Your solution and your thorough explanations are nothing short of spectacular. New sub - can’t wait to dive into more of your treasures. Thanks.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому +2

      Wow! thanks so much! Appreciate it! I have lots of stuff. Enjoy the deep dive and I look forward to reading more comments from you!

  • @RockG.o.d
    @RockG.o.d Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the tips. Will definitely use them with my other things.

  • @JoeRockWeller
    @JoeRockWeller Рік тому +7

    Sick bassline man. I'm embarking on my own solo project too. This is very useful and reminds me to dive deep into the actual work. Thanks!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому

      Thanks so much! Good luck with your project!

    • @eflatmin7
      @eflatmin7 Рік тому

      @@LonelyRocker Love your bass tone. You have a vid on that? thankx

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому

      @eflatmin7 thanks. I get it a few ways but check this. Great BASS TONE Was Lurking in the BASSMENT!
      ua-cam.com/video/uWMtONSZPmU/v-deo.html

  • @joepalooka2145
    @joepalooka2145 2 роки тому +5

    Great video. The most creative use of Logic Drummer that I've seen on UA-cam so far. This is a really deep and advanced subject involving serious understanding of drum grooves, rhythmic patterns, dynamics, etc. and editing in Logic tracks and also MIDI. I'm a long way from that level, but you've really shown me where you can take it.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it! And so happy you found it helpful. It's good to know what's possible so you can set goals....Cheers!

  • @SmilusMusic
    @SmilusMusic Рік тому +1

    Whoa 😮😮😮😮😮the step editor is key. Thanks for showing us that.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому +1

      My pleasure but sadly the step editor was removed for Drummer in more recent versions of Logic. Not sure why!!! But moving the tracks to the piano roll is the way to finish it anyways....

    • @SmilusMusic
      @SmilusMusic Рік тому

      ​@@LonelyRocker

  • @leonardanzelde9259
    @leonardanzelde9259 3 роки тому +14

    I’ve been doing what you do for a while now, but not beyond chopping parts smaller than a verse or chorus, and not using the step editor. I’ll have to try your techniques. Good video.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  3 роки тому +1

      Thnx. Hope you push those drum tracks to the next level!

    • @amesmusicstudioscom
      @amesmusicstudioscom 3 роки тому +2

      Excellent handle on how to harness Drummer! Kudos! Thank you!

  • @413fame
    @413fame 2 роки тому +5

    damn that bass tone is FIRE ma dude

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому

      Thank you!!! I had fun with that :)

  • @sybamunki
    @sybamunki Рік тому +2

    Great tips, particularly second half using grid editor.

  • @neilskiii6936
    @neilskiii6936 11 місяців тому +1

    What a brilliant tutorial! I use drummer a lot, different genre but this has taught be so much! Thank you

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  11 місяців тому

      Thank you! Happy this helped you. Thanks for sharing some positive vibes

  • @charliemcgrain
    @charliemcgrain 3 місяці тому +1

    That's a pretty great tutorial, man. Tha bass line in the first section is a total feature part, don't hide it.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  3 місяці тому

      Thank you so much! Really appreciate that. Even though I’m a guitar player I love playing bass. Drummer has been updated in the newer versions of Logic. I should consider doing an update soon. Cheers!

  • @davidmarin_co
    @davidmarin_co Рік тому +1

    Super helpful, I somehow managed these exact steps a month ago with my last release and wasn’t sure what I did ended up frustrated this weekend trying to use drummer on another song. I’ll be approaching it again with the splicing, edit and midi clean up in mind. Thx u! new to ur channel, another solo rocker here, will be checking ur vids! Keep rocking!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому

      Glad it helped! Awesome to have another Lonely Rocker here. Look forward to hearing from you again!

  • @BrandenBrittneyMusic
    @BrandenBrittneyMusic Рік тому +1

    Sometimes if necessary, I will convert a section to midi region and use the piano roll to perfectly place hits right where they need to be.

  • @guydematas9447
    @guydematas9447 3 роки тому +2

    Another first rate video from the lonely Rocker. This guy really knows his stuff. Please keep these great videos coming. Look forward to the next subject.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  3 роки тому

      Thanks kind stranger. Your positivity drives me to make great content. More coming your way! ;)

  • @bryancolevox
    @bryancolevox 2 роки тому +2

    Fantastic video thank you! I've used Sup Drummer 3 for years and I'm still fairly new to Logic. This video has truly inspired me to utilize the power and creativity that Logic Drummer has to offer. Well done!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому +1

      My pleasure!! So glad you found it helpful. Thanks for your kind words!

  • @richardpennington5445
    @richardpennington5445 Рік тому +1

    The best tutorial of Drummer that I’ve found 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @bobballardmusic
    @bobballardmusic 2 місяці тому

    Great video on how to get the most out of Logic Drummer. I have been using it since it came out and use some of the same techniques you do. When it comes to using other Drum instruments (like you did with EZ drummer), I have found mapping the drums correctly to be a real pain. Some drum apps have a Logic Map, but others don't. In those cases, I have to create the map which is very time consuming and prone to error. How do you handle mapping between drum apps? I would love to find some place where I could get accurate Logic Drum maps for all the major third party drum apps like Superior Drummer, Steve Slate Drums, Addictive Drums, etc. Do you know how I could go about doing that? Thanks much! Loving the Lonely Rock schtick!

  • @mikesmith1290
    @mikesmith1290 6 місяців тому +1

    I’m in the exact boat! Home solo musician who plays bass, guitar, piano and drums. I even bought and expanded an e drum kit. After 4 years I’m just not cutting it on them. Enter logic drummer! I replace the drum plugin and pipe it into Superior Drummer’s area 33. Sounds good, but lacking that human touch.
    Thanks for the tips!!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  6 місяців тому

      It's my pleasure to help a fellow Lonely Rocker!!!

  • @schuylerjohnston1505
    @schuylerjohnston1505 2 роки тому +1

    I love logic’s FET Live Drums setting on the logic compressor. It sounds great out of the box.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому

      Some nice kits in there for sure....

  • @andrestach1584
    @andrestach1584 2 роки тому +1

    The best tutorial I`ve seen with drummer!

  • @DanielC__
    @DanielC__ Рік тому +1

    That is incredible. I'm new to Logic and this just opened it up for miles and miles. Wow...thank you!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому

      Awesome! Enjoy the ride! And glad I could help 🤘🏽🎸

    • @RockG.o.d
      @RockG.o.d Рік тому

      Something else you can do is add reverb. You also get some cool free plugins with the new UA volt audio interfaces and also focusrite Scarlett and other models.

  • @nathanielsmithies
    @nathanielsmithies 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome video dude! Please keep making more videos about using logic drummer for human music, I’ll watch them all!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  3 роки тому

      Glad you enjoyed it! I’ll see if I have any other angles for this ;)

  • @rodrigovazquezoficial
    @rodrigovazquezoficial Рік тому +1

    Great tips..Tthank you very much! Cheers from Brazil!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому +1

      My pleasure!!! I've been to Brazil once...I have family there. Cheers from Canada!

    • @rodrigovazquezoficial
      @rodrigovazquezoficial Рік тому +1

      @@LonelyRocker Cool! Wish you all the best!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому +1

      @@rodrigovazquezoficialCheers to you!

  • @TylerThomas
    @TylerThomas 2 роки тому +2

    I just watched a man make a sick drum track in like 10 minutes. Very cool

  • @brucefrancis2301
    @brucefrancis2301 2 роки тому +4

    Man, what a great presentation; really inspiring!!!

  • @joetunon
    @joetunon 3 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video! As someone who's programmed a bunch of different hardware and software drum machines over the years, it blows my mind how much quicker and easier and more human sounding Logic's Drummer is. So good.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  3 роки тому

      Thanks so much! And I agree. I think drummer is the main reason I stay on Logic 😜

    • @joetunon
      @joetunon 3 роки тому

      @@LonelyRocker the more I've been using this technique the closer I can get to the drums I hear in my head. One thing, though: I can't seem to replicate what you do at 17:51. When I select a Drummer region, the Step Editor option under the Windows menu is grayed out. Step Editor only seems to be an option when I select a midi region, not a Drummer region. Any idea?

  • @govoli1922
    @govoli1922 Рік тому

    This video help me a lot, Thank you! Sadly, now the new Logic pro , step editor is no longer work for drummer anymore.

  • @VHF.brunoverdoni
    @VHF.brunoverdoni 2 роки тому +1

    Thx! Learnt a few more things about DRUMMER!

  • @binary-me
    @binary-me 2 роки тому

    hi. Nice mate. Another really cool sound is to bounce out just the snare and the kick drum and then heavily tune them to the key of the song.and blend them back in

  • @lilian896
    @lilian896 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing ideas on Drummer, thanks!💎

  • @liamdunne8168
    @liamdunne8168 2 роки тому +2

    I’ve been using Logic for many years and your process for editing Drummer is almost identical to mine.
    I had the same issues with drum fills. Logic automatically plays fills at the end of a bar in relation to the assigned time signature, not the length of the selected region. So after making cuts the drummer still caters it’s fills at the end of the bar and not where we want it.
    I usually find that dialing the fill level down instead of up helps find an appropriate flow and keeping it minimalistic makes editing in midi easier.
    Once your happy with your drums you can easily bounce the midi file into individual audio tracks for every drum for better mixing.
    My favorite lazy trick…. If you have EZ Mix 2, put “Master 2” on the end of your drummer track and it sounds amazing with one click!!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому

      Nice! Yes, it can be finicky. I play with the fill level, intensity and complexity until it starts to work. And for mixing, I do that too. I didn't get into mixing in this video but I split them out as well and mix it properly as if they were real drums. I've never tied EZ Mix...maybe I should... :)))))

  • @citysim7375
    @citysim7375 Рік тому +1

    What a great gem on YT - Thank You !! Never thought to chop drummer that extensively and export to Midi. That inspires big time. Need to convince my 13 year old son now to divert from German Rap to a proper rock song 😄. At least for one lol.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much!!!! Glad you found this helpful. Yes, keeping the kids on track is a challenge. I got to mine early trying to inspire them with the value of practise and great rock and roll. They bought in early but influences from friends and what they hear at school is a formidable force!!! They now like "both" ....arggghhh!

  • @drany7
    @drany7 Рік тому +1

    Excellent video!!
    Brilliant tips for drummer .
    But how did you get that awesome bass sound?!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому

      Thanks! Check my channel. I have demonstrated the occasional bass tone :) Here's one example: ua-cam.com/video/uWMtONSZPmU/v-deo.htmlsi=ZwveXSnzYzSaP6zb

  • @guzzoofoz
    @guzzoofoz Рік тому +1

    Great video. Easy to follow along. Thanks 🙏

  • @BPToneReview
    @BPToneReview 3 роки тому +1

    Your production skills are ridiculously good. Subcribed.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  3 роки тому +1

      Wow. Thank you so much. Awesome to have you here!!

  • @ashamgyadi
    @ashamgyadi Рік тому +1

    Wwoh absolutely greatt learning. Wiith tthiis u took me frm a noob to ultimate pro level in Logic Pro. Thnks a lot. Pliz keep making more videos.
    New subscriber here. 🔥♥️

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому +1

      Much appreciated! Thank you! I’m dropping videos weekly. Thanks for joining!

  • @Mikaflyd
    @Mikaflyd 2 роки тому +1

    Didn’t realize you could influence the electronic drummer in this way to get a more realistic sound but your tips although take a little work sound well worth it.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому

      Nothing good is easy! Glad you found this helpful. Thanks!!

  • @svarthelikoptern
    @svarthelikoptern 3 роки тому +2

    I love this video. Helps a lot. Thank you for sharing your workflow and opening up a new world of possibilities to me.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  3 роки тому

      Absolutely my pleasure. Glad this helps you.

  • @lavinchi6709
    @lavinchi6709 11 місяців тому +1

    Great composition👏👏👏

  • @smash_adams
    @smash_adams 2 роки тому +1

    That bass sounded great.

  • @lukedifilippo6543
    @lukedifilippo6543 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for creating this video. You are sharing some wonderful tips! Logic Drummer is very cool. I'm hoping its algorithms will be improved upon in future Logic versions. An additional tip I can offer for others - if you want to quickly hear another pattern without adjusting any parameters just right-click on the region and select "refresh region". A new phrase will be created with the same dynamics.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому

      Oh, thank you so much! And thanks for providing an additional tip!! Very useful....

  • @verticalpatrolsofficial
    @verticalpatrolsofficial 3 роки тому +1

    Great job! You opened the doors of my imagination with your talent. Thanks a lot.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  3 роки тому

      My pleasure 😊 Glad you found this useful. Thank you....

  • @djodjchannel8212
    @djodjchannel8212 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you sir, very helpfull video !

  • @AmundBlixAaeng
    @AmundBlixAaeng 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks so much, game changer for me this video!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  3 роки тому

      You're welcome! Glad you found it helpful...

  • @jamesankiewicz3141
    @jamesankiewicz3141 Рік тому +1

    Excellent vid amigo

  • @SashaIvantic
    @SashaIvantic 2 роки тому +1

    Man, this is brilliant. Thank you!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому

      You're very welcome! And thanks so much!

  • @jasonknight9043
    @jasonknight9043 10 місяців тому +1

    awesome video! answered so many questions I have!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  10 місяців тому

      Thanks! So glad it helped you!

  • @drewmacdonald3285
    @drewmacdonald3285 2 роки тому +2

    Great video! I’ve been trying to get Drummer to hit a crash on the and of 4 for weeks, but it kept defaulting to hitting it on 1. Thanks for making this! It really takes Drummer to the next level, which can take a song to the next level. I’ll be checking out more videos!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому

      Awesome! Glad this helped. Hope to hear from you on another video!

    • @brooklynboy1000
      @brooklynboy1000 Рік тому

      Do your cymbals seperately on a different track with any samples. Pull your drummer track down to a midi file. Then just move it where ever you want. Simple

  • @aim.1
    @aim.1 Рік тому +1

    Very helpful. Thank you!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому

      You're welcome! Thanks for checking it out!

  • @VeejayDiesel
    @VeejayDiesel 10 місяців тому +1

    Totally worthy ❤Subscribed!!! Love it.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  10 місяців тому

      Welcome aboard! And thanks so much!

  • @JohnLynagh
    @JohnLynagh 2 роки тому +1

    Do you know what the pull and push options are doing ? Thanks great video.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому

      Thanks! Yes, just like a real drummer you push ahead of the tempo or pull behind...it's a feel thing...

  • @gonebymidnight2881
    @gonebymidnight2881 2 роки тому +1

    amazing, thanks for sharing ✨🙌🏻

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому

      Thanks so much and happy to share!

  • @audialsavant2658
    @audialsavant2658 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Lonely Rocker, that was an excellent tutorial !!! It is extremely similar to the way I do Drums in LPX, I have literally tried every drum plugin known to man; just wanted to give you an FYI that I discovered and I never saw on any tutorials; you can load a drummer track with regions and then literally "reset channel strip" and then load BFD, EZ Drummer or Kontakt on the same track and still have the full functionality of a "drummer" track (auto fills, swing, etc) on your preferred drum samples, of course in the end you will convert to MIDI for scalpel editing, but my approach gives you a better representation before converting to MIDI :)

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому

      Awesome...thank you. Glad you enjoyed that. Yours is a neat tip too. I do A LOT of editing in the piano roll to really customize it and now in LPX you can't use the step editor anymore to edit the Drummer track. Not sure why they took that feature away. I find no matter what I do I can't get it perfect with just drummer. It gets me maybe 70-80% of the way there and then I do deep editing in MIDI to take it up one more notch. Thanks for checking this out!

    • @audialsavant2658
      @audialsavant2658 2 роки тому

      @@LonelyRocker I forgot this last issue in LPX, when converting "Drummer" tracks to MIDI, you will notice that that the HIHats of Notes with the same MIDI velocity can sound totally different and drive you crazy... there is a hidden value (in the event list) of the "articulation" this value basically sets which Hihat sample is played, drove me nuts, I once had closed hihHats that all sounded like open hats due to a different "articulation" when drummer converted to MIDI

  • @sheddybhulji8196
    @sheddybhulji8196 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks great tutorial

  • @lessidal
    @lessidal Рік тому

    Nice one, I found it interesting doing it this and even more inspiring watching your video

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому

      Thanks so much! Very much appreciated. 🤘🏽🎸😎

  • @wtc175
    @wtc175 2 роки тому +1

    Very inspirational! Thanks for taking the time to help others.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому

      My pleasure! And thank you for your kind words.

  • @uggles_mcfuggles
    @uggles_mcfuggles 2 роки тому +1

    36 seconds in and I’ve already subscribed.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому +1

      Damn! I need to work harder. I should have had you by 18 seconds! Ha, kidding. Awesome to have you here. Thank you!

  • @jeromebrown1263
    @jeromebrown1263 2 роки тому +1

    Great video!

  • @dawud7791
    @dawud7791 Рік тому +1

    Nice vid! Thanks for sharing!
    Is there any way to mute the crash on a break?
    Not yours specifically, in general…

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому +1

      Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it! There may be a way to automate the levels in midi but that’s too much brain work for me. Move the crash to its own track and automate the volume. That’d do it.

    • @dawud7791
      @dawud7791 Рік тому +1

      @@LonelyRocker thank you!

  • @Wam3Studios
    @Wam3Studios 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you!

  • @CRASS2047
    @CRASS2047 Рік тому +1

    I create a track using a drum rhythm sample that I like. I then create a groove track using the sample track. I then set drummer to follow the drum track, then mute the sample track. You can get some amazing results

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому

      I’ve actually tried that with mixed results but it’s a good way to try and find a different feel for sure….nice tip!

  • @JoryRose-s6l
    @JoryRose-s6l Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this video. Very helpful.

  • @salthedrummer1
    @salthedrummer1 Рік тому +1

    Awesome! Man you play great bass...

  • @StratsRUs
    @StratsRUs 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this thoughtful video.Cool presentation !..I'm after that 'heft' a live drummer gives , not necessarily heavy but very spirited 'heft'.Ha.That's the only way I can describe it.Loved that bass line too !!Lots of fun

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much for your thoughts! Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @TheGuitarNerdShow
    @TheGuitarNerdShow Рік тому +1

    I wanna know what's in the signal chain of that Bass Guitar! Sounds great!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому

      Thanks. Might have been early days from this - Great BASS TONE Was Lurking in the BASSMENT!
      ua-cam.com/video/uWMtONSZPmU/v-deo.html

  • @hardrockerdave94
    @hardrockerdave94 2 роки тому +1

    Great tutorial, thanks for posting! Subbed 👍

  • @MattXScott
    @MattXScott 2 роки тому +1

    Hello, very helpful video. I can't seem to open the step editor on the virtual drummer track. When I do, it's blank and does not show any of the drum hits. Has something changed? Any help appreciated. thanks

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому +1

      Yes. If you fish through the comments this has been asked numerous times. For some reason this feature has been disabled since the version I used here. Not sure why. But still follow my steps and save the fine tuning for the piano roll stage. Still works great.

  • @hersheybell8444
    @hersheybell8444 Рік тому +1

    Really helpful! BTW you must love 10.8 where you can use EZ Drums (or SD) as your drum set from the get go!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому

      Glad you enjoyed it. I still work the old way 😂😂

  • @BalzeMusic
    @BalzeMusic 3 роки тому +1

    thanks for your great suggestions, you opened a limit for me that I could not overcome. Now I understand how to do it

  • @Bflatest
    @Bflatest 2 роки тому +1

    great song and lead

  • @newedtv
    @newedtv 2 роки тому +1

    Thank so much for this!

  • @haldymusic
    @haldymusic 2 роки тому +1

    This is such a great tutorial! Thanks for doing it. I am a new logic user and I am learning a ton. One question: After you get logic drummer set up pretty well, you convert it to a midi track using EZ drummer. If I do not have easy drummer, can I somehow convert the track to midi and edit it the same way but just using logic drums? Thanks again.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому

      Thank you! GLad you liked it. No, you don't need EZ Drummer. I showed you in the video how to copy it to a midi track. You can sue Logic's built in Drum sounds instead. There are some great sounds there...

    • @GS-uy4xo
      @GS-uy4xo 2 роки тому

      Control click - convert selected region to midi

  • @NoiserToo
    @NoiserToo 2 роки тому +1

    Nice job - thank you for the tips 👍🏻

  • @hotjamsm07
    @hotjamsm07 3 роки тому +2

    This was a really good video on how to get a lot out of Logic drummer. I'm mostly a Studio One guy, but you could almost vidicate buying Logic just for the drummer program. I was using Jamstix, but they have not updated the Mac program in a long, long, time. Maybe it's because of Logic drummer.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  3 роки тому

      Thank you. It was actually suggested I try Jamstix as an alternative. Too bad they are not updating it. But tough to beat what Drummer offers....

    • @hrebolledoc5159
      @hrebolledoc5159 2 роки тому

      Lonely Rocker , same here. A Studio One user who is seriously considering change horses because of drummer. Excelent video 👏👏👏🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @andrehendricks8044
    @andrehendricks8044 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you, that hit the spot like a cold beer.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  3 роки тому

      Ha! You are most welcome...Thanks for your time.

  • @WardenOnDrums
    @WardenOnDrums Рік тому +1

    Well done man 👏🏼

  • @longhairgreg
    @longhairgreg Рік тому +1

    Super helpful video. Is it necessary to do any MIDI remapping between Logic Drummer and EZDrummer?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому

      Glad it helped! An no. Logic Drummer and EZ Drummer don’t talk to each other. Once you flip it to the piano roll it maps seamlessly. But you can tweak that too if you want. But it’s easier to change the drums within EZ Drummer. Hope that helps!

  • @seymourceikemusic6699
    @seymourceikemusic6699 2 роки тому +1

    Hey I really loved this video! Many useful tips. I wasn't able to view my drummer region in the step editor. It was greyed out. I think Im missing a step. Thanks again.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому +2

      Glad it was helpful! Yes, for some reason Logic took this feature away in the latest release. I was using an older version of Logic for this video but have since upgraded. It's OK. Follow all of the steps and just make all of those finer changes once you've moved the whole thing to the piano roll. Works just as well and it's actually one less step. Good luck!

    • @seymourceikemusic6699
      @seymourceikemusic6699 2 роки тому +1

      @@LonelyRocker oh thanks so much for your reply!! Keep rockin brother 😎✌️

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому

      My pleasure and thanks!

  • @FerdinandRusch
    @FerdinandRusch 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for making this kind of videos!

  • @bealezebub513
    @bealezebub513 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks so much for making this. Helps me out a ton! 🙌🏼

  • @70nikroxx
    @70nikroxx 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome,im also a multi instrumentalist, but don't have drums at the moment..So thank you very much for explaining how to do it , you gave me what I needed and opened up more ideas God bless subscribed for sure!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  3 роки тому

      My pleasure!! Happy to help and so happy to have you here!

  • @tone9930
    @tone9930 2 роки тому +1

    Thx a lot man!

  • @markfahie876
    @markfahie876 Рік тому +1

    Even though it takes lots of practice like everything in music, it looks extremely user friendly

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому +1

      It's a feature not present in other DAWs so it really is a great tool if you need to create more realistic drums...

  • @ClarkWagaman-pw7to
    @ClarkWagaman-pw7to Рік тому

    Thanks sooooo..much! excellent tutorial ! 👍

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому

      Thanks! Glad it helped! 🤟🏼😎🎸

  • @TheMack
    @TheMack 2 роки тому +1

    Very nicely presented video, gives a lot of inspiration. I will try this method out. Just got Bob Rock's drum pack for EZdrummer so that will be a blast! Subscribed!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much. Glad it helped! Happy to have you here!

  • @alanjameshorner
    @alanjameshorner Рік тому +1

    amazing vid, great stuff. however when i go to open step editor its greyed out for drummer regions. it worls for MIDI regions. how are you opening it for drummer regions? cheers.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому

      Thanks! Yeah, a lot of people have asked about this. Logic removed this option since the version I was using to make this video. No idea why. BUT, you can follow all of my steps and make the fine tune adjustments in the piano roll. Just get it as tight as you can before moving onto that stage. I'm doing that now nad still getting great results...

  • @GregLinhares
    @GregLinhares 3 роки тому +4

    Excellent tutorial! Thank you so much for creating and sharing this! One question: When you bring up the Step Editor around 17:52, is there something I might be missing if the step editor menu option is grayed out when I select a drummer region and try to access it? I have advanced settings turned on, just having a hard time getting the step editor to display. Thanks.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you and my pleasure!!! I've had a few people commenting about the same problem. Are you on the latest version of Logic? I haven't upgraded because I'm planning to buy a new Mac soon. I'd like to figure this out.

    • @GregLinhares
      @GregLinhares 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, I'm on 10.7.2 and just discovered that the only way to make the step editor work is to first convert the drummer region to a midi region. It then allows you make the edits, but loses them if you need to convert back to a drummer region. Ah well, I was really excited to be able to go in and make a few minor adjustments, but looks like they have to be done in midi regions without the possibility of reverting back to drummer. Thanks again for a great tutorials!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  3 роки тому +2

      @@GregLinhares I wonder if that’s a bug. Why would they pull that feature? Regardless. Everything still applies. Make as many edits as you can to get it close. You can be just as effective making these changes in the piano roll. Once I convert I never go back anyways but I always retain a copy of the drummer track in case I want to grab anything from it.

    • @GregLinhares
      @GregLinhares 3 роки тому +1

      @@LonelyRocker Perhaps it is a bug. I completely understand the point of no return in this workflow and I love it. However, I also really love the idea of being able to make some subtle adjustments in the step editor prior to committing the the next phase. I'd really love to be able to add a few simple edits while still being able to adjust the drummer settings before converting to midi, but looks like that option is no longer available. I'll just have to adjust as close as possible and then convert to midi to make any minor adjustments for now. Thanks again!

    • @timbeaton5045
      @timbeaton5045 2 роки тому

      Yep. Didn't know you could use step editor for a drummer region, and experimenting... but no, it DOES appear that if one was able to use Step Editor, that cannot now be done. Have no idea why this would have been removed, but definitely looks like it. Shame.
      Brings me to a thought I have had for some time. It's a shame that Apple haven't expanded on Drummer since they added the Percussion players, a while back. Could have been a great idea if they had opened up the API to 3rd parties so that others could create new drummers, as it looks like Apple are not going to. Would have been great to have a Reggae Drummer group, or a Latin drummer, or other styles.

  • @hansendk3695
    @hansendk3695 Рік тому +1

    Great video! However, on my Logic Pro 10.7.7, the step editor menu option is disabled, when selecting a drummer track. Any idea why? 🙂

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! And Yes. A lot have asked about this. Apple removed this feature in the version after the one in this video. I don’t know why but not to fear. All the steps apply. Just reserve the fine tweaking for the piano roll stage. Still works very well.

    • @hansendk3695
      @hansendk3695 Рік тому +1

      @@LonelyRocker Thank you for the quick reply! I will think about the best work flow for me to do this. I guess copying the drummer part to a MIDI track while muting (and preserving) the original drummer track could be the way to go 😊

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому

      Yes. Push the editing with drummer as far as you can take it and then flip it to midi for the final customization. That's what I do. I keep the original drummer track muted but I almost never go back to it. Have fun!!

  • @bluecollarstudio8513
    @bluecollarstudio8513 Рік тому +1

    Your programming skills are excellent, my only suggestion would be detune the snare a bit so it has a bit more thud and less crack. Mer de Noms by APC has a perfect drum sound, so natural and under compressed.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому

      Thnx! Yeah, on a full mix I pay closer attention to the sounds. As I stated this about the performance. But good tip!

  • @simongregory3114
    @simongregory3114 Рік тому +1

    Great video! One thing, Step editor is greyed out when I have a drummer track selected. I have a new install of Logic on a new computer and can't see any way to get into the step editor without converting to midi... I'm wondering if they removed this or I'm just doing something wrong.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! No you’re not doing anything wrong. Logic has since removed Drummer access to the step editor. No idea why. But you can just save the fine editing for the piano roll. Works just as well. I’m doing it that way now.

    • @simongregory3114
      @simongregory3114 Рік тому +1

      @@LonelyRocker Hmmm, that's interesting. I had tried the piano roll, and I can see the names of the drums along the left margin, but no notes are visible. I had another look with no luck. I wonder if that ability has been removed too in a point update? I'm on 10.7.7.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому

      No it’s there. I use it everyday. You have to copy the drummer track to a midi track first. I demonstrate that in the video. Then clicking on each segment you will see the events in the piano roll.

    • @simongregory3114
      @simongregory3114 Рік тому +1

      @@LonelyRocker Ah thanks, I missed that step, will watch again

  • @paulhazel
    @paulhazel 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent tutorial!

  • @jnbeissi87
    @jnbeissi87 2 роки тому +1

    Wait, the fills all the way to zero doesn’t mean no fills? We should have a button if fills is wanted and maybe some accents to be placed for the crashed etc

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому

      Yes. Fills all the way to zero means no fills. I missed and it wasn’t quite at zero so a fill snuck in there. 😜

  • @GS-uy4xo
    @GS-uy4xo 2 роки тому +1

    Forgot to mention the great playing!! (Most important part of making the logic drummer sound good).

  • @GodsTruthforYou
    @GodsTruthforYou Рік тому +1

    Great job and tutorial, thank you. Do you then take your piano roll midi and separate each instrument for processing and further mixing (i.e. snare, overheads, kick to specific routing)? I'm experimenting with Drummer Producer kit

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  Рік тому +1

      My pleasure and thanks! And yes, I often separate events and mix each element separately for full productions. If you want a real custom effect.

    • @GodsTruthforYou
      @GodsTruthforYou Рік тому +1

      @@LonelyRocker Thank you and good to know!

  • @ryanperrault8174
    @ryanperrault8174 2 роки тому

    Didn't realize how in-depth you can get with it. Awesome video, thanks for making it. Will definitely start using it more. Can I load in my own samples too?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! And my pleasure!! Yes, if your are proficient with assigning your own samples in the piano roll you can trigger any sounds you want. Good luck!!

    • @ryanperrault8174
      @ryanperrault8174 2 роки тому

      @@LonelyRocker Good to know, I'll have to mess around with it more later. I've barely ever used it.

  • @trancecatdelta2302
    @trancecatdelta2302 3 роки тому +2

    Great tutorial! We had developed a similar workflow but you added the idea of cutting up the regions and applying different fill settings before converting to midi. Couple points... in converting between drum programs how did you handle the different formats used? I think drummer defaults too GM. We'd like to import the midi to the Abbey Road kits in Kontakt. Also, I was unable to open the Step Editor for the drummer regions, only midi worked. Running version 10.5.1 of Logic. Thanks!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  3 роки тому +1

      Glad it was helpful! Truth is I'm not a power midi user. 99% of my midi work is what you see in this video. Occasionally I'll lay some keyboards down but not often. Once the performance is on a software track it should apply to any VST. Sometimes you may need to reassign the instruments but midi is generally mindless within the DAW. If Kontakt works as a VST on a track you should simply be able to drag the midi onto the Kontakt track. You can also export any midi track in your projects to an external midi file that you can then import into any other application. You access that from the file menu with the track highlighted. As for the Step editor I just open the Step Editor and highlight the track I want to edit and it works. I've seen others asking about this. For some it's greyed out. I'm not sure why. I can't replicate this issue.

  • @josenation2189
    @josenation2189 2 роки тому +1

    The new thing for me here would be the step editor, but it's greyed out. Not sure if this is a new thing for Logic, but it's a shame.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 роки тому

      Yes, when I updated Logic the step editor is now greyed out for Drummer. Not sure why they did that. But you can skip that step, make all of the edits I demonstrated and tweak once you move it to the piano roll. You'll still be able to create a great drum part...

  • @Anton_Yegorov
    @Anton_Yegorov 9 місяців тому +1

    nice video! how do you open step editor for a drum region? mine is greyed out for drums... only for midi is lighted

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! Yeah, since this was video was done they removed the option to edit Drummer in the step editor. But not to worry. I just edit the drums as tight as I can and then flip it to the piano roll and make the tweaks there. I actually don't miss that step editor anymore....

    • @Anton_Yegorov
      @Anton_Yegorov 9 місяців тому

      @@LonelyRocker thanks for answer. my piano roll is also greyed out for drum region. althou it's synced and sounds when i press, but no events, no edits. for MIDI regions - it works, for drum region - no... i'd like to stay in a drummer mode - because of that feeling of a live drummer, that Logic's AI provide ) love it much!

  • @bassnstoff8621
    @bassnstoff8621 2 роки тому +1

    learned a lot