@@jaxwarp8373 it's a cartoon. Reality is already being shattered at the characters jawlines, skin, and mouths as well as body proportions bring way off.
It’s because a human being can’t possibly play the “what she actually played” part, since it’s MIDI drum samples clumsily overlaid. I wish he’d actually perform the “real” versions, because they always end up as this impossible “popcorn drumming” that only MIDI can do, lol
Well not an animated series, but I heard there was a car commercial where they auditioned many young string instrument performers to play. Not telling them they would be dubbed over with badly played music so that they can advertise the car’s soundproofing.
@@TY-df7fg oh yeah, I heard about that too. caused quite a lot of controversy. I believe TwoSetViolin made a couple videos as well talking about that. They even recieved an email from one of the music students in that commercial giving their story. Turns out the musicians had to do multiple auditions, which made them even more devastated when infinity dubbed over them without their knowledge
@@TY-df7fg Every time I saw that commercial I knew what was going on, I had a fucking feeling. I felt so awful for those poor kids because there is no way in hell that I’d audition if I was in their place.
I love how the people complaining about these types of videos say things like the creator(s) doesn't/don't know that animating things correctly would take more time. Meanwhile, I'm just taking interest in what sounds the animation would really make. It's fun stuff, basically.
The people complaining are stupid too. Unless they are just copying the audio from a song, and making up animation, then they have a drummer in a sound booth and still have to animate it anyway so how much harder is it to animate it correctly vs incorrectly?
@@StevenTLawson I believe that although for spoken lines, people record first, sound effects are recorded after the animation is finished. Also,it's not like animators can animate quickly, they'd need to take a video recording of the drummer, which may not be in the drummer's contract, and may require them to pay the drummer more, and then they'd have to play it back more slowly because drumming is fast and hard to follow with your eyes so they'd get the beats correct, and then try to animate it at the correct speed while still adding in stylistic elements like what we see in this clip---all for a brief sequence that the majority of the viewers wouldn't recognize if it's wrong
@@flyingsky1559 Okay... but then you need to know how to produce those notes on an instrument. I can look at a song indicating to hit a G-flat but if I don't know how to play the drums, I don't know what this translates to. So, sure, you can do some research on where to make that note, and do the same for all other notes in the song... But then you have to worry about tempo, because you can't animate the notes to be too slow or too fast, it'll be incorrect, so you need to get that right, also. And all of this takes time and therefore costs money, and the time spent perfectly animating the drums is less time taken to animate something else. Also, an important thing to remember is: sometimes they don't know exactly what song is going to be there until after it's animated. Sometimes a script calls for a specific song, but not always, sometimes it's just "drumline" or "guitar riff" and it's not up to the animators to decide what song will eventually go there. And, sometimes the song chosen in the script ends up not being used because the composer says no, or the rights are too expensive, or the studio executives demand to use a different song, so they use a different song, and then the animators wasted their time perfectly animating the wrong song.
In episode 2F09 when Itchy plays Scratchy’s skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib twice in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is some sort of a magic xylophone or something? Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
@@HazeAroundtheWorld thank you for saying this in a way that wasn't, to quote, "HAHAHAK ITS A SIMPSONS REFERENCE JERK" that reply was deleted, i wonder why...
What I always find weird is usually for these things they get someone to play it so like if they recorded it then used the footage as reference would make it easier to know where it is as well, but animating is hard so idk
What you just said is exactly what they did when making a current anime called Bocchi the Rock. They recorded real musicians playing the songs and then used the footage as reference.
Time and money. Doing that would be several episodes of budget and animators not going home, bathing, and two hours of sleep for a month or two. Or... Screw it. Make it look decent. Only one autistic UA-camr will notice and care.
As an animator, I would say that they rarely provide any references to the animators because they don't think about It. You would be surprise how often this happen. How they Say: insert dance here. I'm no choegrapher and yet here I am, improvising something, checking youtube videos to figure It out by myself. Big movies might provide references but tv shows? No Time, no thoughts. Unless the director cares a lot about that moment and the producers agrees on spending that money, animators has to improvise most of the time. XD
@@itsemyc.4095 Lmao 3D animator here, that's so true. I had to animate a classroom of kids playing music. 1 I know NOTHING about music, 2 I had two days to do it, 3 THERE WAS NO MUSIC ON IT HAHAHA what do they expect smh.
Being an Irl quads player, and watching this episode, I felt true pain. She makes playing the quads look so easy, when they are the hardest instrument to play on in drumline. The heavy weight, plus having to manage 5 or 6 drums at a time, is very challenging, and requires much practice.
Back in highschool I considered quads but landed on pit percussion because I simply didn't have the strength to carry those drums all the time. I did have the musical talent to take all the mallet percussion parts I could though.
I used to play the quads in high school. I wasn't a really big guy. When I first started it was really hard wearing them for a time and I had to rest a lot. By the end of the school I could walk around for hours with them and never get a strain. Really helped my back strength I guess.
From this clip I was led to believe it's so easy to play the quads, so easy, in fact, that one can do the running man and head stands while playing them. Then I remembered this is a cartoon.
I don't know much about drums, but I think it worth noting that the animated drums all appeared to be the same diameter and depth while the should have been drums were clearly different.
Actually this animation just may be correct... If you take into account that fact that these tenors could be tuned differently than the typical set, then this might be possible. You also have to accept the fact that she could be beatboxing at the same time she's playing, which would explain the sounds that occur when no drums are struck. All in all, this animation could very well be flawless. I am positively appalled at your ignorance on this subject, Eric! All factors MUST be considered when discussing such objective rankings as the one displayed in this performance. I expect you to improve your judgments by the time you release "Drums are Never Animated Correctly... Right? Ep. 69" I wish you the best in your future endeavors regarding this topic, good sir!
@@DogNamedWatson The little things matter, obviously The Simpsons wont really care but when you put care and detail people will notice and will appreciate it, just look at a movie like Del Toro’s Pinocchio
you can't play drums upside down because: 1. Why would you do that in the first place, 2. all the blood in your brain you would make you feel uncomfortable and dizzy (obviously this is a cartoon so it's fine)
@@teddysam9307 Well...I would try harder if it weren't for the fact that: 1. I'm 14, 2. I have a very sensitive head, and 3. I have hardwood floors in my house, and also 4. have you ever tried doing anything upside down
🤣🤣🤣 Also I feel like it'd be a little hard to animate drums being played like it should, especially at that speed for quads. Idk about animations, but yeah
nah they use AI, what directors say is the problem you can animate them properly and your director would say it doesnt fit or sone other factors involved are the problem it
Istg I’m going to make a show and put someone playing like an instrument in an episode and somebody does this video when they go to figure out what would actually be played it’s just gonna be the Rick roll rhythm 💀
Animator: i couldn't sleep for weeks, i cried every night my pay isn't enough to feed my kids. Musicians: HOW FUCKING DARE YOU NOT ANIMATE THIS CORRECTLY
It's really cool to see the comparison! I work as an animator and the turnaround in TV animation, especially the older cartoons, was insanely short. I'd imagine they were recycling animation as much as possible.
I love how the actual sound for it is just the noise in Gmod when things clip into one another.
LOL
*flatline*
Fucken 08 nostalgia right there
And then it shoots out at super sonic speed
@@billul1 beepbeep beep beep beep beeeep
the “what it should look like” at the end is a nice touch, very satisfying
But he didn’t do a flip and play while standing on his head. 6/10.
Hope they do more of em
@@spraynard9529 I was waiting for him to flip the video overlay upside down. Dreams were crushed this day
Very helpful for animators to learn how drummers should move
@@jaxwarp8373 it's a cartoon. Reality is already being shattered at the characters jawlines, skin, and mouths as well as body proportions bring way off.
Original audio: amazing chops
What she actually played: a bag of popcorn in the microwave
I watched again after reading this and peed laughing
Sounded to me like gmod objects clipping into eachother
@@glazedsteel6321 You don't even have to play GMOD to know what that sounds like
@@patrickjamesnickel5159 PFFFTT-
It’s because a human being can’t possibly play the “what she actually played” part, since it’s MIDI drum samples clumsily overlaid. I wish he’d actually perform the “real” versions, because they always end up as this impossible “popcorn drumming” that only MIDI can do, lol
Even if she didn't play them correctly, moving around with the tenors like that is impressive. And hurts my back to watch.
Gay
@@ugh9671 emoji pfp, emoji pfp
She's not even a real person, she's a caricature. What are you saying?
@@ugh9671 how did you know?!
I especially liked the headstand without a Bari Sax style strap harness. Her marching harness defied gravity just for her.
Amazing! I loved the reactions with the "what actually played" audio, is like... Wtf is happening.
True
Gay
"Huh... Is she ok??... Uhh... Does she need an adult"
*Confused screaming*
@@ugh9671 Gay niggas from Outer Space
@@UniqBlue lol
One these days the character is going to play something awful and what they actually played is great
Well not an animated series, but I heard there was a car commercial where they auditioned many young string instrument performers to play. Not telling them they would be dubbed over with badly played music so that they can advertise the car’s soundproofing.
@@TY-df7fg oh yeah, I heard about that too. caused quite a lot of controversy. I believe TwoSetViolin made a couple videos as well talking about that. They even recieved an email from one of the music students in that commercial giving their story. Turns out the musicians had to do multiple auditions, which made them even more devastated when infinity dubbed over them without their knowledge
Gay
@@TY-df7fg
Every time I saw that commercial I knew what was going on, I had a fucking feeling. I felt so awful for those poor kids because there is no way in hell that I’d audition if I was in their place.
I would love to see one where both the audio and the cartoon turn out to be great but dont match.
If my precussion bandmate was that bad I would probably be crying too
Gay
@@ugh9671 wtf how does that deal anything with that- did you lose all your braincells?
Percussion*
@@ugh9671
People still use that as an insult?
@@Richard_Nickerson they are just letting us know. No shame in coming out! /sarcasm
I love how the people complaining about these types of videos say things like the creator(s) doesn't/don't know that animating things correctly would take more time. Meanwhile, I'm just taking interest in what sounds the animation would really make. It's fun stuff, basically.
The people complaining are stupid too.
Unless they are just copying the audio from a song, and making up animation, then they have a drummer in a sound booth and still have to animate it anyway so how much harder is it to animate it correctly vs incorrectly?
@@StevenTLawson I believe that although for spoken lines, people record first, sound effects are recorded after the animation is finished. Also,it's not like animators can animate quickly, they'd need to take a video recording of the drummer, which may not be in the drummer's contract, and may require them to pay the drummer more, and then they'd have to play it back more slowly because drumming is fast and hard to follow with your eyes so they'd get the beats correct, and then try to animate it at the correct speed while still adding in stylistic elements like what we see in this clip---all for a brief sequence that the majority of the viewers wouldn't recognize if it's wrong
@@DogNamedWatson Just google the notes, same with a piano or guitar or whatever
@@brandonsteele2826 damn.
@@flyingsky1559 Okay... but then you need to know how to produce those notes on an instrument. I can look at a song indicating to hit a G-flat but if I don't know how to play the drums, I don't know what this translates to. So, sure, you can do some research on where to make that note, and do the same for all other notes in the song... But then you have to worry about tempo, because you can't animate the notes to be too slow or too fast, it'll be incorrect, so you need to get that right, also. And all of this takes time and therefore costs money, and the time spent perfectly animating the drums is less time taken to animate something else.
Also, an important thing to remember is: sometimes they don't know exactly what song is going to be there until after it's animated. Sometimes a script calls for a specific song, but not always, sometimes it's just "drumline" or "guitar riff" and it's not up to the animators to decide what song will eventually go there. And, sometimes the song chosen in the script ends up not being used because the composer says no, or the rights are too expensive, or the studio executives demand to use a different song, so they use a different song, and then the animators wasted their time perfectly animating the wrong song.
I like how you actually showed how it SHOULD be if it was correct rather than just saying "it wrong"
I love that you showed what it should have sounded like and what it should have looked like. I've never seen both in this style of video. 👍
Yeah that addition is good
funny thing is i know someone who can play a tenor solo upside down, his friends were holding his legs while he played
The Cavaliers Drum & Bugle Corps did it...forget the year, tho.
Bro I love you for adding the ending lol, most UA-camrs just show the original and “what it sounds like” but never add what it should look like.
In episode 2F09 when Itchy plays Scratchy’s skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib twice in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is some sort of a magic xylophone or something? Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
Does it matter though? It's a short bit in a cartoon. It doesn't have to be perfect. Go on, make an animation of someone playing the flute perfectly.
@@OfficialUA-camAlgorithm overreaction, but ok, I didn't know that, thanks
i think this is a reference to the nerds saying something similar
For anyone who actually doesn't know, Admiral Funk's comment is a Simpsons reference
@@HazeAroundtheWorld thank you for saying this in a way that wasn't, to quote, "HAHAHAK ITS A SIMPSONS REFERENCE JERK"
that reply was deleted, i wonder why...
Dang she hitting the drums really hard with the drum sticks
0:43
She went full-on gatling gun on dat shit...
THIS MAN BUSTED OUT THE KIT LOL!! good shit!
I like the second half. It’s like they’re shocked at how bad it is. 😂
0:58 what no flips of splits?! lol great vid
Impressive playing by you! Well done ^^
It's Gay
The 'this is what it should sound like' basically a 5 years just hitting randomly
What I always find weird is usually for these things they get someone to play it so like if they recorded it then used the footage as reference would make it easier to know where it is as well, but animating is hard so idk
Well rotoscoping exists. With programs they have now it's a lot easier.
What you just said is exactly what they did when making a current anime called Bocchi the Rock. They recorded real musicians playing the songs and then used the footage as reference.
Time and money.
Doing that would be several episodes of budget and animators not going home, bathing, and two hours of sleep for a month or two.
Or...
Screw it. Make it look decent. Only one autistic UA-camr will notice and care.
As an animator, I would say that they rarely provide any references to the animators because they don't think about It. You would be surprise how often this happen. How they Say: insert dance here. I'm no choegrapher and yet here I am, improvising something, checking youtube videos to figure It out by myself. Big movies might provide references but tv shows? No Time, no thoughts. Unless the director cares a lot about that moment and the producers agrees on spending that money, animators has to improvise most of the time. XD
@@itsemyc.4095 Lmao 3D animator here, that's so true. I had to animate a classroom of kids playing music. 1 I know NOTHING about music, 2 I had two days to do it, 3 THERE WAS NO MUSIC ON IT HAHAHA what do they expect smh.
Being an Irl quads player, and watching this episode, I felt true pain. She makes playing the quads look so easy, when they are the hardest instrument to play on in drumline. The heavy weight, plus having to manage 5 or 6 drums at a time, is very challenging, and requires much practice.
Back in highschool I considered quads but landed on pit percussion because I simply didn't have the strength to carry those drums all the time. I did have the musical talent to take all the mallet percussion parts I could though.
I used to play the quads in high school. I wasn't a really big guy. When I first started it was really hard wearing them for a time and I had to rest a lot. By the end of the school I could walk around for hours with them and never get a strain. Really helped my back strength I guess.
From this clip I was led to believe it's so easy to play the quads, so easy, in fact, that one can do the running man and head stands while playing them.
Then I remembered this is a cartoon.
@@wjb4578 Marching Tenor Drums are the hardest percussion instruments to perfect
Wasn't the whole point of the scene supposed to be that she was blowing everybody away with her incredible skill?
This sounds like when youre playing portal and the cube just gets stuck in a glasspane and disappears
I didn't know I needed this but yes I needed this.
Could be nice if he also put a sound when the boy dropped the cymbals
Animators on crunch, surviving only by caffeine for the last 72 hours: "Ok, buddy."
During the "how it should be played" part you should have a guy pass by with a different set of drums, for consistency
I discovered a pianos are never animated correctly UA-cam channel, and now a drum one 🤣
I don't know much about drums, but I think it worth noting that the animated drums all appeared to be the same diameter and depth while the should have been drums were clearly different.
What was actually played: *GMOD ITEM GLITCHING SOUNDS* “WHY IS THERE A CHAIR GLITCHING INTO MY FOOD”
That's all great and all.. but Eric, you didn't stand on your head though.. 😂😉
It would have been truly epic if he'd flip the image of himself during that part of it
Thank you A LOT for having the "what it should look like" part in!
That end was smooth af
I love how he plays the song in the end
Martin's brother actually went out crying because he was the only one that could hear what was actually being played
The actual version sounds more like a kid with pots and pans.
Yes!! The wait paid off. Good stuff 👍🏽👍🏽
It was cool to see it actually played there at the end!
Surprisingly real life moves at a faster frame rate than animation.
Liked just because you did it yourself at the end. Bravo and good show kind sir.
Man you played it amazingly, new sub!
Love you adding yourself there at the end, beautiful.
As a tenor player, I’m more impressed by the movements than the actual playing
this gives me "and i took that personally" vibes
Actually this animation just may be correct... If you take into account that fact that these tenors could be tuned differently than the typical set, then this might be possible. You also have to accept the fact that she could be beatboxing at the same time she's playing, which would explain the sounds that occur when no drums are struck. All in all, this animation could very well be flawless. I am positively appalled at your ignorance on this subject, Eric! All factors MUST be considered when discussing such objective rankings as the one displayed in this performance. I expect you to improve your judgments by the time you release "Drums are Never Animated Correctly... Right? Ep. 69"
I wish you the best in your future endeavors regarding this topic, good sir!
get off the drugs man
You kinda spittin rn
this looks like it could be a copypasta
@@Maxorq_ Nope lol
Amén?
Why do I love this video so much
ooh, i like how these 'clips' are evolving-- now theyve got The Actual Playthrough at the end!
I really appreciate he included the bars at the end so I could visualize
Funny how the looks of amazement turn into looks of horror
God man you ain't ready for how Scooby Doo animated the song Earth, Wind, Fire and Air.
This is Loopy Grandma in her dreams 😘
The other peoples weird faces are much more suited on the ”what was actually playes”
*"Cartoons don't have to be 100% realistic!"*
- Lisa Simpson
Cartoons don't have to be anything. They don't even have to be good!
Bruh I hate these videos because they forget that animating them correctly takes more money
@@spicyredcricket6441 Money and time! All for, like, 30 seconds where most viewers can't tell the difference
@@DogNamedWatson The little things matter, obviously The Simpsons wont really care but when you put care and detail people will notice and will appreciate it, just look at a movie like Del Toro’s Pinocchio
@@capitatecab6049 they only matter if that was the only good thing about something
I love people showing what they know
Still somewhat impressive
(Brass player)
Camp rock's "she is really good" line came to my mind
I wish you'd show the transcription for what was actually played too, I bet it's a clusterf*ck
That animation at the end was superb.
I gotta know if Marcy’s drums in amphibia No Big Deal are right
75% sure it's not, at least during the middle to ending of the song. The beginning could be right but idk
This is incredible 😍😍
well its really hard to drum upside down
0:37 this sounds like completely messed up piplash but on the drum
you can't play drums upside down because: 1. Why would you do that in the first place, 2. all the blood in your brain you would make you feel uncomfortable and dizzy (obviously this is a cartoon so it's fine)
Three. The harness is not designed to work upside down and would fall off
These sound like excuses. Maybe...Perhaps, you're just not trying hard enough.
@@teddysam9307 Well...I would try harder if it weren't for the fact that: 1. I'm 14, 2. I have a very sensitive head, and 3. I have hardwood floors in my house, and also 4. have you ever tried doing anything upside down
@@lanasmith4795 ye
@@CalifornianCuttlefish If you just believe in yourself...ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE~!!!
Well. This video is how I found your playlist and I feel like it was made for exactly me
🤣🤣🤣
Also I feel like it'd be a little hard to animate drums being played like it should, especially at that speed for quads. Idk about animations, but yeah
nah they use AI, what directors say is the problem you can animate them properly and your director would say it doesnt fit or sone other factors involved are the problem it
@@巻木トリスタン they use ai? thats not how it works afaik
NGL the “what it should look like” part was my favorite part.
The 2nd version is better ngl
Istg I’m going to make a show and put someone playing like an instrument in an episode and somebody does this video when they go to figure out what would actually be played it’s just gonna be the Rick roll rhythm 💀
Seeing new simpsons episodes makes me remember how awful it is after season 10.
So original!
Man, never stop making these videos :)
Yeah, they are so annoying
Sup Loopy Grandma!
Loopy Grandma wishes she had these skills!
When you push something metal into the ground in gmod
Animator: i couldn't sleep for weeks, i cried every night my pay isn't enough to feed my kids.
Musicians: HOW FUCKING DARE YOU NOT ANIMATE THIS CORRECTLY
I love these comparisons
Animators didn’t understand that drumming isn’t just about bashing your drums.
I love this episode where she bonded with Lisa as a big sister and she defended her and how she became nice
I kinda feel like at this point The Simpsons isn't animated correctly as a whole
Who cares
This is literally the equivalent of hitting the same rib twice and playing two different notes when itchy played scratchies bones like a xylophone
Mad props for the what it should look like part
Gmod ragdoll sounds be like:
This was fantastic. Great job
My hands are starting to hurt for no reason.
Unbelievably great job. Very impressive. Wasn't looking for this video but glad I found it.
Those paradiddles were beautiful.
These videos are some of the best content on the internet and I'm not exaggerating.
You actually played it at the end. Amazing, instant sub
Ummm... Yeah, The Simpsons still stuck. I love this kind of videos, great one bro.
Sounds like a gmod model glitched in the wall
Was not expecting you to come in at the end and kill it😂
A-MAZING!!
It's really cool to see the comparison! I work as an animator and the turnaround in TV animation, especially the older cartoons, was insanely short. I'd imagine they were recycling animation as much as possible.
Thank you for your service 🥁
Interesting analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
I feel like you just flexed on the entire world.
What's next farts are never animated correctly.
Lisa: Cartoons don't have to be 100% realistic
Took exposure to another level
Gmod props be like:
They’d have blown their entire animation budget trying to match how fast those sticks would actually need to move.