Drums are Never Animated Correctly...Right?
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
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Also, how long have you been waiting for your Xymox product to ship?
Thanks for choosing regular show to "critique"
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4 years
@EMCproductions I’ve been waiting almost 4 years for my Xymox pad to ship.
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youd think the gorillaz one would be accurate considering the entire POINT of gorillaz is to be an animated band lol
yeah-
Though its animated by a comic book artist and not an actual drummer so I don't blame him for not having it a 100% perfect. Especially since the focus is to make it visually cool and not accurate. And they still have a live band with performances
Right?!?
tbh, i think the fact the drums, nor any of the instruments being accurate makes it more visually appealing. it really gives off the whole "old cartoon network show" vibe. especially phase 1, that is
You should hear what Noodle was actually playing in Feel Good Inc. it’s freaking hilarious
You should see how accurate the drumming in Phineas and Ferb. Although there are a lot of songs from this show, I suggest you doing “A’int got rythm”.
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@@McBehrer stop
@@BandannaWonder
... what? I just said I agree with your suggestion to do that song in particular. I second that opinion. Sorry for agreeing with you, I guess?
@@McBehrer ah. My apologies. I thought you were doing that thing where people say “first” on posts, and I thought you just said seccond for some reason. My apologies, have a great day.
@@BandannaWonder Wow, an unexpectedly good ending
Part 46 of Eric’s transformation from hardened marine to bearded hippie.
BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Holy shit dude, I almost choked on my wheat thins.
It looks so bad. I bet if he trimmed it it would look much better
That would be Eric's worst nightmare
hell no
@@kjl3080 holy shit, Kayjay!
Why is nobody talking about how the family guy guitar solo was actually sick
I'm sure that guitar animation of this is not accurate and also this is about drums
@@piotrgoacki9070 but it was a sick solo
@@connordix1859 agree
I don't know man, seems like generic repetitive hammer-on-pull-off licks ending in a different bend each time
I'm not saying it sounds easy, i've only been playing 2 years so i probably couldn't play it that well, but as a musical composition it isn't very interesting
You have bad taste.
Russell just confidently slamming off beats on the crash. Champion.
Just a thought, whenever any drum isn't shown on screen, I think you should give the benefit of the doubt and assume that what's not shown is exactly what was originally played. For the Regular Show clip in particular, you'd be able to see the extreme difference between the furious playing that is happening in the original and the simple version that's being animated.
From what i heard on the gorillas part is that they animated rustle to play like that because it was physically more appealing than what he was actually playing
Rustle 😂
Wait really? Where was that from?
I mean, that's basically almost 50% of the reason why some animation don't animate the instrument correctly. It's much more visually appealing. The rest is most likely because they don't have enough time or budget to put the effort and detail
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Hey, I know these aren't really "animated", and they did the best they could with puppets, but you should review some songs Animal played with Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem from The Muppet Show.
Oh man, nobody's more "animated" than the muppets!
I'm curious as well.
Aw, yes. My favorite band. XD
What do you mean it’s not animated? The just had technology to 3D animate puppetry!
Where no one has copyright claimed these cartoons, I sure the Muppet show would definitely copyright claim any video showing clips from The Muppet Show
It's a bit of a cheat for the CGI stuff, because they can just use direct mocap when it's convenient. (They don't have to B.S. it or guess, it's copy-pasta of somebody playing the real thing.) However Zombieland Saga is still S-tier when it comes to music anime in general, and the overall story is fun too - not just the music.
Beat me to it, and I had a feeling it was mocapped. I think that's from the 2021 season as well. Fantastic show -- hope there's another season.
mocap doesn't quite have the magic 'it just works' that most people think it does. Even if it's mocapped it still likely needed to be vetted for buggy movement and other jank, and it won't work properly if the model isn't properly rigged and matched to the motion capture. It's a bit of a different skill than if it was hand-drawn to that level of accuracy, but there's still a lot of skill involved and they easily could have 'fudged it'- for an example, look at the infamous moment in Frozen during "Let It Go" where Elsa's arm phases straight through her ponytail.
Yeah any musical sequences were about 10000 times smoother in animation it’s was jarring, but it was also a nice touch that they put a lot of effort into those scenes
@@SavageGreywolf mocap could just be used as a reference.
It's a bit of a cheat having severe enough of a lead poisoning, to not consider animation is mostly done for the effect and literally NOTHING is accurate, characters don't breathe, superman has impossible volumetric strength, etc.
Takes a musician to have this much of fart huffing contest on the ONE thing you actually are willing to focus on. With any other thing the studios would just play the music like crap and PRETEND it sounds good for the benefit of the plot, if it was dealt with the same disregard as anything but the music.
Props to whoever recorded that Zombie Land one, the drum solo itself was sick!
ZLS is legit, the rap portions go crazy.
That last clip, and I imagine the Fortnite emote as well, was likely mocapped for accuracy. 3D animation means using actual drummers is very possible.
Yep, they were probably animated tracking the motion of a real drummer. Comparing that to 2D animation is unfair at least
You should do a video doing the "what was actually played" with 80s and 90s TV shows that overdubbed live performances of bands, like Top of the Pops.
He could do an entire series on Keith Moon whenever The Who had to mime
I was assuming that the kid that animated that drumline in high school represented their pep band or whatever with great skill, given the professionalism in the music itself. Then the Reveal happened
The zombie land saga one looks a great deal like mocap, which would explain the accuracy!
That part was CGI so it has a good chance of it being Mocap
@@Ms666slayer 100% chance of being mocap
Could've also been rotoscoped
kids on the slope has extremely accurate drumms
I think he did that in another episode
i love how gorillaz being a famous animated band his animators can’t animate drums properly but you being 18 with no animation experience and animating with microsoft paint you can animate drums properly.
to be fair most people dont know anything about instruments let alone drums but considering that was a music video yeah that was sad
Their point is to be an animated band, but they failed their jobs
@@brandonbrandon2822 it wasnt animated by a drummer. It was animated by an animator.
The point of the animations isn't to portray realistic instrumentation, if thats what you think the point was then you are lost. The point was to create a story, and they did that.
@@deemcgann1695 I don't care, the animator should've known what they were doing
@@brandonbrandon2822 they did. They animated very well because that was their job
The one thing about the WWAP treatment that's really not fair is that you don't add in any kick drum notes that could be playing off screen
He showed Russel's legs not moving.
Oh my God man. Hitting the crash like a hi hat made me lose it 😂 great stuff!
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tension spring : "am i a joke to you?"
honestly the way the girl in zls moves i wouldnt be surprised if it was touched up mocap, which is what makes it so accurate, which would honestly be a really good and clever way of doing it
The Zombie Land Saga was probably a professional drummer in mo-cap. Anime does that a lot, especially with music. If you see a 2d show with sudden cg with very realistic movements you can safely assume that's the case.
The only time I recall seeing accurate animated drums was actually also on South Park but in the episode where Cartman starts a Christian rock band.
So glad you are continuing this series ... Gotta keep the bucks rolling in so you can buy more equipment and costumes! Gotta get the Classics series going, too, to get a new group of subscribers to get to be the #1 EMC UA-cam channel.
Have you considered the idea that the banjo kazooie xylophone is not laid out in a scale? Perhaps it's structured more like a kalimba.
For Zombie Land Saga, I'm pretty sure it's mo-cap'd, which explains why it's so accurate. What I wonder is if they motion-captured and got the audio in separate takes, or someone mocap'd while recording the solo.
Wait, you woke up early to watch MTV to watch the Gorillaz video, but it didn't cross your mind to hook up the VCR and tape it?
One day animators will respect the drums and bring a whole new appreciation of the experience to their animations!
Kind of like with cooking in anime. Specifically, slicing a cabbage. One anime in the mid 00's had some highly suspect cabbage. It looked like the character was slicing a featureless green ball. This particular part got panned hard by viewers and production executives. So hard that animes ever since have made sure to make cabbages of decent to great quality even if the show did not focus on cooking.
It’s not the lack of respect, it’s the time and budget
respect? it's called budget
@@Lastingbeats Budget? It's called skill
Kids on the Slope drumming is pretty accurate if u ask me.
Adventure Time has a good amount of drumming scenes, most of them featuring the Ice King but what made me think of Adventure time specifically is a drumming rock giant from the Episode Five more Short Graybles. Season 5 Episode 3. Love the series by the way!
The Gorillaz video I saw for the very first time while stationed in Camp Lejeune. I was in the arcade in the Jacksonville Mall and it came on and couldn't stop watching. (2001)
i appreciate the change to show the original audio only once instead of multiple times.
Mumbo's solo when played accurately was just hilarious.
Watching benson play what was animated was actually really funny
I'm loving this series!
I hope you check out Ritsu's drumming from the anime K-On! I feel that the animators did an exceptional job with showing how the drums were actually played during the opening songs. I personally recommend the opener to season 2 "Go Go Maniac"
K-On does another lazy thing: instead of animating instruments poorly, they choose to avoid showing that much playing, both in story (I mean, girls drinking tea with sweets instead of practicing IS the point), but also during music videos it often picks and chooses angles to save on budget lol. Ritsu is my fav of them tho.
Oh my god I know that first one! That’s supposed to be Neil Peart’s famous drum spectacular (I don’t know if it has a proper name)
Funny thing about Zombieland Saga…if you haven’t seen the show: the drummer, Tae Yamada, is actually a feral zombie with about the intellect of a newborn puppy (at least in the first season haven’t seen the 2nd). Great show though
Haha it was totally Neil Peart I agree
So you are saying that she is a female human version of Animal.
10:26 Animation, like pretty much any skill, does in fact get better with practice, actually.
Need more of this.
Man needs to do any episode from the CN original "Class of 3000"
I wonder if I could make a drum animation that's good enough for S tier...
hmmmm
I think you already did
You can definitely see which animations were rotoscoped to achieve a perfect effect.
Rotoscoping is where you (as an animator) would video a studio drummer - preferrably with the same gender, age & build of your character - playing your music to the standard that you want, then digitally set the keyframes to match. It's not particularly difficult to do with modern animation software - especially if the animation is being done in a 3D renderer, so I can't really see any technical reason not to do this.
Apart, perhaps, from budget/scheduling issues, but if you're trying to do amazing work, you need to suck it up & do it the best way possible...
It would be cool if it were her VA. She doesn’t really talk so much as grunt and growl so she could be devoting that time to music.
Awesome video man, very creative.
What i think mumbo was playing was a children's xylophone which explains the reason why it has no accidentals
Seems to me like the animations for Zombie Land Saga and Fortnight might have been rotoscoped or otherwise copied directly from actual performers on drums, hence why they were so clearly accurate.
I would like to request that you transcribe the “letter of the day” drum line part from Sesame Street. The newest iteration has a full drum line backing track and it sounds pretty cool. Probably would make a good video for you and I’m too lazy to do it.
I just found your channel a few weeks ago with the video of Bart Simpson drumming. This is such a cool new niche, you carved out for yourself! You got yourself a sub from me!
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HE FUCKING DID IT! He covered my FAVOURITE anime of all time! YES!!!!
You should watch Haruhi Suzumiya and K-On for a later episode. Kyoani went outta their way to make the animation true to how the instruments are really played in both shows. In the former, it's only in one episode, and in the latter they cheat by having it off screen much of the time since animating all that is insanely hard, but when they do it for realsies you can tell. I heard they also do it in Dragon Maid, but I haven't seen that one so idk.
Don’t forget angel beats!
@@thecrowcook Not Kyoani, but if they also went to the effort, then that's nice.
@@SpringdayAutumnmoon i just rewatched the concert scene and he wont get much out of the drums, theres some there but most of the scene focuses on the guitar and bass player. id like to think they put a effort into making all of it accurate with as big of a deal that scene was and how the band portrayed in the anime is a real band called Girls Dead Monster
@@SpringdayAutumnmoon i just rewatched the concert scene and he wont get much out of the drums, theres some there but most of the scene focuses on the guitar and bass player. id like to think they put a effort into making all of it accurate with as big of a deal that scene was and how the band portrayed in the anime is a real band called Girls Dead Monster
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Here are some other examples of drumming animations that can be reviewed:
• Cubone drumming (Pokémon anime). It uses trash cans and oil drums instead of things made specifically to be drums.
• NBC animation for The Beatles movie (I believe I can guess its tier already)
Great video pls do more videos like this I really enjoy them
It's really not about them not being capable to animate it right but about money, time and effort. Animation is extremely difficult and just reusing a frame is a lot more efficient. So you reusing 3 frames without in-betweeners isn't the same as a full fledged animation
Mumbo was probably playing the Zimbabwe marimba in which all the accidentals are on the same line as the normal notes, but he probably still wasn't doing very good job anyways.
I'd argue that Mumbo is magical, and these instruments were summoned via his magic. So he can probably make them sound however he pleases no matter how he actually plays them.
@@13vatra Interesting
Love the series bro
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Wow, Eric you should totally transcribe the very ending to Mario Extreme!
Unless... 😳
3:36… So you’re saying that since they have 4 fingers they can’t have good technique 😥
I love this series it must be challenging to be an animator alone. Perfect sync to music is tough!
Awesome! I just watched the first one yesterday for the like the fifth time. I’ve been hoping for pt2
You should do K-on
He should
Gorillaz has actually improved and made their instruments more accurate
I remember being legitimately impressed by the drum scene in Zombie Land Saga. Glad I wasn’t the only one.
Last time I was recommended this channel you were clean shaven.
I’m *shook*
So it turns out that drums ARE animated correctly most of the times - just look how many S-tiers he's got! Nice!
5 out of 16 is not most.
@@OntarioTrafficMan but it's obviously not NEVER either
@@golllaur No that is true
It’s not that hard for the cartoon editors to animate it the right way. It’s only an extra hour or two
yeah but there is no point in doing that for 2 reasons, first, nobody really cares, it doesn't change much. Secondly, it would take a while if they don't know the notes for only one scene.
Yeah but is it really worth a whole hour or two for a small scene that’s accuracy will go unnoticed to 99.9999% of your audience though. The extra work is only done if it really pays off, and no show is in the wrong for not doing it, the point of the show isn’t to drum accurately, and it doesn’t really take from the given episode
@@samglover4923 well if anime animators who are payed pennies compared to western animators care enough to do it
The west has no excuse
You should definitely try looking at a clip of Ritsu drumming from K-On
0:35 me seeing the brave little toaster litterally had me shook (i am obsessed with that movie)
That last one was great!!
greatwork bro
i know i should be over it by now but i just cant stop vibing to that intro/outro kadence
I love your animation videos cause every drummer analyses when they see a cartoon play. Thanks
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Was that a UD pad design I saw at the start!
Hell yes!
Just passing through UA-cam's suggested videos.
One that comes to mind is in Arthur, Francine practicing her drums and singing for a talent show on top of her apartment building.
Episode: To Beat or Not to Beat, second half.
So this is the man responsible for the trend destroying my algorithm
Thanks I love it
im gonna save up to buy their pad thank you for bringing this up
This was the first video I saw and from the title I immediately thought "hope he watches Kids on the Slope", then I see you have it on your tier list already. It's pinnacle musician animation for me
8:14 i like how the k fades out behind the other letters.
And he is so humble 😅
I remember Mtv. Back in 2009 and 2010. The Beatles Yellow Submarine would be playing its tv show.
😂😂😂that was fucking funny and awesome guy! Very accurate job doing the ‘real sounds’
love this sort of content, if you keep going I'd like to see you pick apart the drumming scene from gundam thunderbolt in the first episode of the second season
Love the Blue Hens getting some Love
The dichotomy of the active duty haircut with the anime connoisseur neckbeard is palpable
You earned a sub when you said WWAP treatment
THE LEGENDARY TAE YAMADA HAS DONE IT
7:06 .. SameBoat Bro
Hoping to get those certain music video's in before school ..
That last clip looked like it was animated with mo-cap. Straight up looked like VR chat
There is an old animation of rush's yyz. Stunning
Well, I stuck around til the end, so it wouldn't make sense saying 'you had me at...', but I do appreciate the brave little toaster in the outro. Watched that like a hundred times as a kid, with my nieces and nephews, brother and sisters, at my grandmother's house. Even though several scenes actually were scary.
lmao the tiny *tap* at 4:07
EPIC!! I love this!!!!
Oh man, I was the same with Feel Good Inc. Loved the music video before UA-cam XD
Wathcing this videos all day)
The adventure show one is just every single person walking through a percussion section
This is great🤘🏼
i like how each episode had 1family guy clip and 1 anime
Also, if you're looking at animé drumming, check out the Intro/End Sequences of:
*_So I'm a Spider, So What? (Kumo Desu ga, Nanika?)_*
I don't recall if there's any animated drumming, but just the music is sick!
4:40 it reminds me of why I stopped going to poetry night...