The old dude who talked against Opus Dei had clearly not been Christian in the first place. He had a good time in a hotel with a lady when he had clearly taken the decision of being celibate. Damn. God help us.
we are all sinners you must remember, how many priests bishops , Popes and even the occasional nun have broken there vows.?? does it make them hypocrites...yes , but like the rest of us it also makes them human as well. I must say thow if they wished to expose the Opus dei move as a dangerous order that brainwashes its members which from his discretion they do seem to use such tactics they Mabe could have picked ex members with a less sinful past.
@@andrey_nacosta well at least he went to confession that shows that he was contrite of course how contrite and repentant he actually was in his hart only god can know that . Doesn't the bible say that non of us are in any position to judge one another?
I was a numerary member of Opus Dei for almost ten years. This is so bad that it doesn't even need refutation. Their main detractor is an unfaithful numerary who slept with prostitutes while having the world believe that he was a faithful celibate member of Opus Dei! Really? A self-admitted hypocrite! That's the best you can do? This kind of saddens me, as I have great appreciation for the Work of God, and attributed all the attacks to the devil's work. But this attack is so unintelligent and self defeating that, if there's any diabolical involvement in it, it must be by some very low level rookie demon; a bad sign that Satan doesn't consider it such a big threat any more...
@@browndemon386 the inquisition was enforced by Spanish monarchs not Catholicism and the crusades was a defense against Muslim assaults on Christian pilgrims in the holy land and Christianity was so peaceful it had to be altered to allow them to defend themselves
and what the doctors and church folks did during the franco regime is despicable. 70,000 children where sold to mostly rich families,telling the new parents their child had died in childbirth. that s not religion, that s organized crime.
Also Josemaria looms larger than JC? Then you show the josemaria statute from the side with a large efigy of JC in the middle that dwarfs Josemaria, lol
Wow, a total disappointment, Journeyman Pictures. I saw some of your earlier documentaries and they seemed interesting enough, but this one is just full of misinformation. Did you actually do any research or did you just pick up the most sensational info you found on the internet?
I come from an Opus Dei family where many members venerate Jose Maria Escriva. They are supernumeraries that are total fanatic Catholics. They are totally obcessed with "La Obra." They constantly are praying the rosary, kissing likenesses of Jesus, sleeping on the floor. They tell me, not that I am bound for Hell. But already burning! The whip their backs "disciplines." They wear "celices" on their thighs a couple of hours a day that have unbarbed fish fish hooks that are driven into their flesh. My mother was hospitalized twice that I know of with infections. These people are not neurotic. They are borderline or full on psychotics. They give large amounts of money to their HQ in NYC. They are as demented as ISIS, but to my knowledge are not yet terrorists. I attended Catholic Schools from K to 12. I had a scholarship for University for academics. I was sad as a youth, sad for my family. They insisted that I follow a vocation. Upon graduating from HS I joined the military and stayed for 20 years. I finished college in the military and went to a professional school upon retirement. Opus Dei ruined my family and mentally crippled and destroyed many members of it. They are a very sick, sadomasochistic cult. Nobody should ever trust them. They are hurting the Catholic Church. There is nothing good about this evil cult. They are dangerous and an insult to Jesus Christ and the Holy Mother.
That´s so true. And I wonder why, instead of hurting their bodies (aka their temples as they say), don´t they do something as sacrificing and is also productive like Jesus would do? If you´re gonna wake up at 5 am to take a freezing shower why not go feed the homeless instead so your sacrifice is not a waste? I don´t have a close Opus Dei member anymore but did you ever ask them this? All they do is selfish bullshit.
I'm so sorry for this, but in this case, your family directly violated teachings of Opus Dei. Usually when someone criticises Opus dei, they only think that all members of it act as bad as the few they personally met. (Which is not true, for example for me, Opus dei is God's gift of group of holy catholif friends which do always the best they could. All memebers are different, so all couldn't be good neither bad) But you are wrong even more, you consider some things as an official cult of Opus dei, though they are not! I have no idea where to start with all the wrong things you wrote Your parents have no right to call you to any vocation, you should choose it, from what God is telling you. They have no information about his plan for you, so they cannot force you into anything, this is the first and worst thing about violating of Opus Dei rules i noticed. Opus Dei isn't about forcing into anything, so anyone who force, makes a mistake aganst it. So that's for the start Secondly, it's absolutely wrong to take masochistic type of fasting as an obligation of spiritual life! Real physical hazing are mostly just for the specific chosen mystics, with even things like stigmates or something... There are some few people, God is calling them for, but it's no way of necessity! For most of us, who are not literal mystics of chosen, applies a permanent rule that our body and our health is holy gift from God, and we should take good care of it, and protect it. (Also my Opus Dei friends are supporting me with better healthier lifestyle, for being better person without anxiety from health problems) They also have no right to tell you you're bound of hell, they shoul love you amd care for you as a parents in teaching of Opus Dei. It's not a neccesity to kiss any pictures or anything, or pray all the time Real Opus Dei is about living our faith even outside a church, in everyday life, sanctify our work and fight to become a saint right in the ordinar life where God sent us. It's exactly about the point that we are all allowed to be saint, that it's not just for some mystics or priests or chosens, but for all, and we don't need great hollywood scenes and epic miracles to live side by side with God everyday. And it also delegates to sanctify with love basic family life. It is absolutely great cult for catholic church, and it's blessed by Jesus and his Mother! (And one more thing, in basic life of Opus dei we're learning about the thing "self-mortification" but that doesn't have to do anything with physical self-harm, it's just about, harmless and invisible to everyone except God, withholding of something you hugely want int that mometn, sacrificing something ordinar and little to God. And it's layed only in basic word "no", the chocolate will wait these 10 minutes or something. And once i experienced it, i loved it, when i founf strenght in God to say "no" to my loud appentences, which ruled over me all the time, suddenly i became the leaded and i had the rule over my appentences! I've never felt pure freedom like this, i felt so strong and dignified thanks to it, i couldn't even imagine! I have no idea why someone distort this beautiful thing to something sinful and terrible, though in its keystone is so holy, about breaking chains of appentence and becoming a leader of your decisions!) The thing you persume as a real cult of Opus Dei is wrong, it's out of point, it's missed from it's inner sense. Don't judge it all just according to group of extremists you know, you're missing a lot But once again, i'm so sorry you had to get through this experience, i hope you live happier now!
@@kacp6485 Thank you most kindly for your thoughtful comments to me. My comments about those family members that are Opus Dei are not lies. Whether, or not what they do, have done, might do is or is not Opus Dei doctrine is not important aside from the fact that I had to grow up humiliated and terrorized by what I was forced to believe was all of this Opus Dei bullshit. I am a member of a support group of refugees that are Opus Dei Survivors. I help my fellow members recognize their feelings and put them to rest and just thank God that they escaped from this evil Opus Dei diabolical cult. I know people like you quite well. What else can you say to me or another survivor like me, except to blame us? I know all about Jose Maria Escriva and what a cultist deranged motherfucker he was. Jesus Christ would be most certainly punishing his evil ass for sullying his holy name. Only, the Catholic Church would be so evil as to venerate a syphilis chancre upon the face of Christianity like that evil shit bag Escriva. Catholic vocations or any choice of a job should come from within. That I agree with you. It was decided by my family that I should be a priest. It was not my desire to be a priest. In order to escape from my family I joined the Army and stayed for 22 years retiring as SGM. After retirement I went to professional school. I spend my life helping people that are victims of cults. Sorry, but Opus Dei is one of the most reviled and evil cults both to academicians and to the victims of Opus Dei. My patients view me as helping them escape with their sanity and possibly preventing them from committing suicide as a means of escaping their Opus Dei families. Sadly, some have been ruined by this ungodly evil cult. Make no mistake, I thank God every day that I was fortunate enough to escape Opus Dei. I had a sibling that was not as fortunate and committed suicide to escape the depravity of Opus Dei. I have a relative that escaped Opus Dei but requires intensive psychiatric support and psychotropic medications. You have no choice but to condemn survivors like me in order to be an apologist for this most evil Catholic prelate. As for me? I am not a Catholic anymore and do not embrace Christianity in any form. All I can say to you......is simply continue to tell your lies about what Opus Dei is to validate your feelings. You really don't have any choice because if you displease your Opus Dei cult.....cult leadership and cult leaders can sanction you, put a choice on both of your thighs and "apply the discipline to your ass.......or even go so far as to really fuck you up? So stay in your perverted, cynical, evil Opus Dei world knowing more and more in your heart and mind that you are living the Opus Dei cruel cynical lie. V/r, J. B. GARCIA-LOERA, SGM, US.Army, retired and DSW.
When I was looking for a job in 2001, I pray and ask Saint JoseMaria Escriba to help me to pray to the Lord so I could find a job soon and it happened, I have been in my job since then and we are in 2022. Pray for us Saint JoseMaria Escriba.
I think the idea is that self m*rtification is like self harm, and people who self harm are not mentally stable. Self m*rtification is also considered by many people (I guess) cultish.
@@passport3763 yes, but self mortification is not limited to whipping yourself or walking on coals. Fasting, abstinence, etc is also self mortification.
@@tylerchua929 not as most people take it to mean, and in linguistics common use of a term is important to its definition. But I guess there might be an anti religion bias, where the prejudice influences common meaning and later definition.
I think the selfflagellation is totally weird for me as a Catholic. But I understand there are hundreds of bad people who needs this. The flagellants are people so in need if this, God knows how bad they can be without the mask. Also, I understand the Opus Dei mortification is not that extreme. I don’t know. I don’t mortificare myself because I have dermatitis and my skin itches all the time. There’s a lot of ways to mortificare different from hurting yourself the flesh. For me is a very controversial topic.
It is a terrible hatchet job. It is a prosecution attorney's presentation but worse because there is no defense rebuttal. From the weasel words used to the soundtrack to the use of innuendoes, their thesis is clear: Opus Dei is evil. No defense attorney. No vetting of witnesses or counter witnesses. No objections. No counter evidence. No impartial judge. You only hear the prosecution.
@DebsterRiley please refrain a little. Hold off your prejudice. You've been shunned by them but that does not mean you have no christian vocation. Opus Dei take those called to it. Some are wealthy, some poor, some educated, some less so. Don't have hard heart because of your pride. Always be humble.
@DebsterRiley i had the same experience. Actually the first to be approached in New Zealand. I introduced many to it but I was never invited. Actually I never felt the call really. Now married kids but I've seen the good it does for the others. There is big spiritual battle raging out there but different places in the fight for many types. The church is wide enough for a difference charisms.
@Kade Daivis If they were not used at the time of the great schism in 1054 by Catholic Church, they belong to Byzantine Greek & other Orthodox. If they were taken in more recently by these, they’re appropriated. Schism was huge & far reaching, read history.
God is interesting faith is appealing however having attended a church where two of the priest's were abuser's and the wall of see no evil hear no evil and speak no truth by the adults involved with that church no longer being part of this religion is the healthier option for some of us, I suspect that regardless how many new saints and 'secret' societies within the church both God and earth deserve something more honest and less damaging than this church and as all things do in time cease to exist in a particular form there is hope that one day many years ahead something better will carry the Christ story forward whilst leaving the abuse, violence towards children and minorities far behind, Rome was a fine home for Caligula however Christ deserves a cleaner home.
You said it very well! Just, it's terrible when some priest's do these things, but those are doing it against their own faith. If they do, it's not representation of church, but their personal sins. Which are literally forbidden in word we take as Holy :)
Evil inhumane scum there are not sins but crimes against innocence and cover up for these animals equally evil and aborrant what did christ himself say about any one harms a child in anyway be better a milestone round his neck and cast into sea preach christ word but do the Satan's work 0⃣ tolerance for these beasts god bless the sacred heart of jesus and holy mother protect the innocents from these predators and shameless devil's amen
They have been funneling money thru his businesses for years. They were involved in both Trump and Epstein’s Sex trafficking rings. Read Craig Unger’s book “American Komprat”
Opus Dei is about personal sanctity and apostolate. Using the best in places of worship, priest's vestments is because, God deserves the best not because, the priests are rich.
Yes, it's supposed to be All the Best for God worship and one is then to use all the best for THE SELF or the God Within. Somehow it has turned into the SELF AS A LOWLY NO GOOD SINNER who deserves nothing.!!!
John Rogers funny that the richest preachers on planet earth are all Protestants. 😂🤦🏻♂️ What does the Bible say? Don’t judge the splinter when you have a beam in your eye?
Religion lumbers believers with needless fear, guilt and shame based on the religious concept 'sin'. It's like a quack doctor convincing you, you have an illness only he can cure. Religion lumbers humanity with needless division, hatred, warmongering, wars etc. Religion is a powerful tool of control for politicians, rulers and a mega cash-cow for its many powerful, wealthy vested interests. Religious institutions are firmly embedded with the ruling elites in every religious country i.e. the reason why religion still survives and thrives despite the fact the Bible is based on a fictional 6,000 year-old Earth where Neanderthals never existed. In the real world, most people have some Neanderthal DNA because our human ancestors mated with Neanderthals and Africans whose ancestors have never left Africa have no Neanderthal DNA. To survive and thrive, humans had to come up with moral codes and laws long before the Bible was invented. ua-cam.com/video/Tl-hI2IsCo0/v-deo.html
Its a place where I found real peace, who taught me to love what I am doing even if its ordinary and how its hard. The people and friends who taught me to develop my personality, to balance the work and spiritual life and to love God.
look I'm glad you found something that keeps your mind off the fact that you have a mortal coil and death is just around the corner... But I was born into Catholicism and went to parochial school, I had many legit questions for the sisters and it was met with kneeling on pencils and saying the penance! I called bullshit after the 4th grade when doing bible study! to me, religion is just an excuse to slaughter other humans who do not believe in the same god or scripture interpretation.. at least that is what history has proven! Best wishes!
@@haurqermereggbertswartz6777 , I believe in God, I couldn’t live without him, feeding my spirit is as important as feeding by body. Said that, I don’t need other people to moderate my relationship with God, my talks with God. As you said, most of the times the name of God has been fraudulently used to rule and oppress the others.
I come to pray to God for my own inner peace in the Church. Don't distract me with Tom, Dick and Harry stories. Your problems, my problems, leave them in the hands of God.
@@haurqermereggbertswartz6777 great! Give me these questions please! All of them! I spent a lot of time in my life with finding complete answers to complicated questions about christianity, maybe i can tell you something you were looking for Just for the start, true catholicism is personal relationship with God, something uncompareable with common opinions of atheists about existence of religion - defence against fear of death, explanation of natural phenomenons, tool to manipulate people to serve your person, having moral compass to people without moral, or comfort for weaks who does not believe in themselves. All of these ideas are cute and funny, but completely out of the point, and it's obvious that people telling these, never experienced that insane feeling of being fulfilled with higher happiness, and having a living liquid touchable relationship with God, more than just some abstract nameless 24/7 source of strength or moral compass... :)
its bad enough we have a Jesuit Pope rn the last thing we would need is a O . D. That is truly one of the Problems in the RCC today you have many that Politics the faith. a O. D. Pope would take the church violently into the other direction which would not be very good ither.
i think you mean deo volente, brother, not deus vult; God has not yet willed an opus dei pope. unless you're just saying it because it's part of the crusader larp, in which case ignore me
Peace, We're not Catholics or even remotely favourable towards Opus Dei but this documentary just mainly seems like a biased hit-piece against the organization. It would have been stronger if they were able to show/feature other voices too, including other types of detractors, critics, and defenders. The Moorish Science Monitor ✌🏾🇲🇦✋🏾
I am so glad I renounced my Catholic faith. I was raised Catholic and have family in Opus Dei. These people just want to have power over you to serve their own interests. And honestly you don't need to be part of any religion to worship God and be spiritual. Stop giving these corrupt people power.
I left catholism too but went further. I renounced all religions. God is only an invention to gain political power, wealth and unending control over fearful masses.
Oh no, you are correct. Every bad thing that can be said about opus dei and cultiness in general is absolutely true. However, a small caucus of cardinals have voted to declare me as the second coming of christ, so I'd like to work with that for a bit. Opus dei was lied to, opus dei lied to and manipulated its members....but when life gives you lemons, you turn those lemons into weapons against the police state. But anyways, I can probably do some Jesusy ass shit if people are down for it. I'm the "rich people eye of a needle" kind of Jesus, not the "make me rich you peasants" kind of Jesus. I mean I'm not Jesus...but it's a hat I can wear I care less about being Jesus, and a whole lot more about ending the police stste, ending hunger, and solving climate change, which kinda seem like the things that Jesus cared about. If the shoe fits?
It’s clear that you didn’t understand the spirit of Opus Dei, which isn’t a bad thing, but it’s dangerous to accuse people of things that you know aren’t true
This is nonsense I have personal experience Opus Dei are simply conservative good living catholics All I personally know are good living people who wish to LIVE their faith
70,000 children were sold to rich families and parents told their newborn had died in childbirth. workings of doctors and religious folks during franco years. sainthood was probably payolla to bring everything out. oh what a tangled web some weave. jean paul two was the best christian pope the catholic church had.
@@martinemjt ok Is that fault of Opus Dei? Or christian who wrote that comment? Or christian like me? No, so, though it's sad, what does it have to do with this topic?
This is definitely not true. More of half truths. Opus Dei has helped me grow spiritually as a lay Catholic. Parish priests are sometimes very busy and have no time for formation for Catholics who want to learn more about their faith. This is why the personal prelature helps. I highly recommend it. And if anyone feels mortification is equivalent to self flagellation, they need to understand that it’s just little things like skipping a meal, chocolate or forcing yourself to finish that unpleasant job. In my opinion likening Opus Dei to ISIS is disingenuous and outrageous. No Opus Dei member would become a suicide bomber.
St Jerome's church in Punchbowl, Sydney. Priest is one of them and actively recruits the young, dumb and lonely for indoctrination. In particular, he has a preference for successful business owners who make significant financial contributions to the church. Drives around in a brand new Volkswagen (sport model in fact) as a reflection of his 'humility'.
Internal voice. We all have/use it, and it's a natural way to navigate reality. We all speak to ourself to work things out. Some adults, don't understand that their internal voice is their own, and attribute it to others. This is a very dangerous way to view reality. It allows one to offset blame to another, which can easily lead to the worst atrocities. Please understand, that when some people "talk to god" or "jesus" or think it's a "rule written on their heart"... it's a fallacy, and the perfect excuse to act out in reality without recourse. It saddens me to see so many in this world fall for this con. The con runs a deep rabbit hole when "secret" is involved with a society. All sorts of internal voice friends can be created, and made to act out without the victims knowledge. Please thnk about this topic, and beware. Gr8! Peace ☮💜Love
Yes.!! I'd like for Yeshua to appear in his body right there in front of a pope mass.! They would have him taken away and arrested. How dare he question their gold and riches.
Have you ever been to a monastery? The fact is the only way for Christ to be king is for his people to have power. Also there are still Catholics that do live in poverty and like I said religious sisters and brothers who take vows of poverty
@@johnrogers9481 fortunately not in these days, but in middle age definitely. Sadly, many for example protestants kept in middleage, in looking at catholics. If you're talking about today, we have an amazing pope, which really serves God as well as he can. Change my mind :)
As a Vatican one catholic that has always the message of the catholic one church of 2000 years of saints by now look at what Vatican 2 ruined the church
This living Saint was loved and guided by the holy spirit like his equally holy successor Pope Francis. The opus dei will defend the infallible teachings of both Catholic saints.
ummm Cult.....cult....cult....filled with narcissists who abuse their wives and daughters....pathetic lizards.....Jose marie was a jim jones...and JP 2 should have his sainthood revoked JUST for making him a saint....of course to be a Roman Catholic Saint all you have to do is say you saw the image of Jesus in a cup of coffee and put a bandaid on someone
the REAL Catholic church is the Eastern Orthodox Church WITHOUT 1000 pages of cult like indoctrination....the WORST humans I have ever met were the most devout Roman Catholics
No pope is infallible. No pope is the vicar of Christ. All popes are involved with Jesuits and some with masonry. Rome Catholic church is apostate church that goes against Biblical Christianity & places rituals & tradition as equal or above the Bible.
All who die in Christ are saints. The Catholic Church just likes elevating certain people to manipulate different ethnicities . There is no "religion" in Heaven. There is only God in all manifestations. For me, Jesus Christ as my Redeemer is the Way to God's heaven. The Holy Spirit of God is my guide on earth through the words of Jesus in the New Testament. Not Opus Dei .
Preaching against Abortion and contraception are catholic doctrine but personally something does not sit right with me about this Order , its a feeling that leaves a very heavy feeling in my chest and stomach. I tried to watch this with a open mind but all the while there is just something that does not sit well with me about Opus Dei Order but I cant quite place my finger on it.
Its against True Biblical Christianity. They are the ones who killed the true Christians & Jewish people women men boys girls children even babies & the elderly. Thank God for the reformation that brought back biblical Christianity and made it possible for all people to read Gods word.
Probably because they are secretive, claim holiness but are power seekers meddling in Governments trying to create theocracies. They are trying in America , right now, in this election. J.D.Vance is their boy.
Self flagellating is a pagan practice. How it came into Christianity goes back to Constantine and his religion of Mithraism, before he said he was Christian.
Fergus Kabiswa the reality is, most people look to God far more when they’re in pain. Also, your historical analysis is just straight up stupid. The early church was born out of blood, blood, and more blood. The Bible says the blood of martyrs was like watering a plant or something like that. Things like that are said repeatedly in the letters in the New Testament. So I’m pretty sure it has nothing to do with Constantine. Also, I went to a Catholic school for 12 years. No one ever taught me a thing about Mithras...
bhec7715 Dissist from using certain adjectives. Read your Bible right then you’ll understand the place of persecution as Christ intended it to be. You’re equating what the prophets of Baal did to themselves invoking Baal, to how the early church was persecuted to grow the church. Revelation 12 will explain it all. Then, don’t confuse the religion Constantine instituted; with the Church the apostles started. Revelation 13, will explain that to you. So which church do you subscribe to. The Apostolic church or mother church?
“Amassing power & wealth”. Yup. That sounds like most religions 🤷♀️ How do people not see that religion is just a way of drawing people together to create power & influence for a few, using our fear of the unknown. It is played out over & over & over throughout history.
Which part of the documentary was not correct? Point it out. Instead of just writing this demon and that demon. He did amass wealth and the Opus Dei were whisperers to the Pope. They are many books written. You should read all by admirers and detractors to get a balanced account.
@@conlaiarlathey are working with Trump and Vance, a recently made Catholic married to a practicing Hindu, and the Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society to blow up the Democratic Constitutional Republic of America by replacing the Constitution, Bill of Rights and amendments with Project 2025 and Agenda 47.
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A saint is a christian-one who loves and obeys Jesus Christ and only Jesus Christ grants sainthood not some heretical pedophile preist whos every religious practice is an abomination to God and is conedemned in the bible they say their church gets their religion from. The institution of the Roman Catholic church does not produce saints nor does it have the power to make someone become a saint, a saint isnt a necklace or someone you pray to they are simply the dead and living righteous souls covered by the blood of Christ that will inherit the kingdom of God. Dead people cant hear you only dempons and angels thats why we are commanded to pray to the Father through Christ inspired by the HolySpirit not to dead people. Saint means holy, set apart from the world for the use of God, all real christians that know love and obey Christ are saints.
The pope doesn’t make people saints people make themselves saints by living holy lives and after death if miracles are performed during their life time or after their death when someone asks them to pray for them then the they are canonized which means the pope recognizes officially that they are in heaven with God he doesn’t make them that way though
loved jean paul two! he was the best christian pope the catholic church had, and he didn t believe in fascism! sanctity through work, sounds very similar to freedom through work, or work will set you free.
@@eevve9894 he was against what you call "killing", only what he did was speaking against fornication. What became from it isn't his guilt. And you know it.
@@eevve9894 he was Pope WHILE thousands of priests were raping boys around the world.....and anyone who says he didnt know is either an idiot or a liar
Reading the books of the New Testament, we probably asked ourselves more than once: *"Why 2000 years we do not see those miracles that accompanied the Сhurch of Christ in the I century, as described in the New Testament?"* Why do the so-called preachers of Christ have to prove that Jesus really existed and atheists boldly deny the historicity or divine origin of Christ? Maybe because the Сhurch of Christ has not existed for 2000 years? The Сhurch does not exist in the form in which it is presented in the books of the New Testament, but there are Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant and other christian sects claiming to be the place of the Church, but they not have the only thing that distinguishes the divine from the human and is characteristic of just the Сhurch of Christ -the reinforcement of the word with signs, that is, miracles (Mark 16:15-20). Therefore, some researchers doubt the historicity of Christ, and some of them are not opposed to declaring him a an ordinary philosopher, teacher. But even if Jesus were an ordinary philosopher, his disciples would be ordinary followers of Jesus. And they would not dare to write about the miracles that not only Jesus, but also his disciples, could perform. In this world, the great fertility of atheism can be explained by the fact that there is no main opponent of critics of the Bible - the Church. If there were the Church in our time as described by the authors of the New Testament books, where miracles are performed, the sick are healed, where prophesied, and the dead are raised, no one would doubt the historicity of Christ. Then there would be the same controversy throughout the world as in the first century - Jesus the Son of God or the false prophet who seduces the world by miracles. As a result, we can say that the emergence and development of christian sects and atheism was the result of the fact that over the 2000 years the Сhurch of Christ did not exist. Find *"The Mystery about the Church of Christ"* video on UA-cam, which shows the real causes of Christian sects and atheism. The video reveals a prophecy about the disappearance and reappearance of the Church of Christ before the end of the world. Watching this video will bring joy to all who sincerely seek God and will interest those who are not too lazy to think freely. (The video is in Russian, but English subtitles are included)
The church has existed since Pentecost. Jesus said I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. The true church of Christ are the ones Who believe in the name of Jesus Christ repented of their sins and put there full trust in the lord Jesus Christ And actually follow the lord Jesus Christ and his commandments To do the will of his father which is in heaven And there have always been True bible believe in Christians as there was since the days of Pentecost.
@@jonathannixon8652 You write: *"Jesus said I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."* - As for the words "I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." they do not mean that Christ's church was not to die. This is a misinterpretation of Jesus' words. Jesus also died when He was crucified, but that doesn't mean death overcame Him, does it? Of course not, because Christ rose from the dead and thereby conquered death. As it is written: *"Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it"* (Acts 2:24). This is what happened to the Church. The gates of hell are death, and hell is a dwelling place for the dead. So the words *"I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it"* indicate that the Church was to die, go to hell, and then rise again as Christ did. After all, one can only defeat death (escape from the gates of hell that hold the dead) by dying and rising again and in no other way. Just as Christ could not be defeated by the gates of hell and was resurrected on the third day, so the Church will be resurrected, but it will happen before the End of the World. Just the death and resurrection of the Church reveals the great mystery of Christ and the Church, which the Apostle Paul speaks of when he draws an interesting parallel between the relationship between husband and wife and Christ and the Church. *“For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church"* (Ephesians 5:31-32). The true essence of the integrity of Christ and the Church is that Jesus and the Church were to live the same life as husband and wife according to the *"two are one flesh".* And if they crucified Christ, they later crucified His Church. It could not have been expected otherwise. The world could not be cruel to Christ and benevolent to the Church, for the principle of integrity two are one flesh would be violated. But the most important and joyful thing is that the Church is one with Christ both in persecution, suffering, and death and in resurrection. As Jesus was crucified and on the third day risen, so will happen to the Church. *"This is a great mystery..."* is revealed in a true understanding of the principle *"two are one flesh,"* which means that the Church as Christ had to go from Calvary to the Resurrection.
@@jonathannixon8652 You write: *"The church has existed since Pentecost. The true church of Christ are the ones Who believe in the name of Jesus Christ repented of their sins and put there full trust in the lord Jesus Christ And actually follow the lord Jesus Christ and his commandments To do the will of his father which is in heaven And there have always been True bible believe in Christians as there was since the days of Pentecost."* - What can we know about the Church of Christ? What was she like? We know about the Church of Christ only what is known from the books of the New Testament. We do not know of any other Church of Christ outside the New Testament. What was the Church of Christ in the books of the New Testament? Certainly not symbolic and not invisible, but a strictly hierarchical organization consisting of believers baptized with the Holy Spirit, where the Gifts of the Holy Spirit were manifested. As written: *"Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues"* (1 Corinthians 12:27-28). This was the Church of Christ in the first century, but for 2000 years we no longer see such a Church of Christ, there are no Apostles, no prophets, no one has miraculous powers and gifts of healing. But we see gatherings of people headed only by teachers speaking in the name of Christ, but not having the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Jesus said: *"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.* *So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following..."* (Mark 16:15-20). I would like to draw your attention to these words: "the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following". that is, miracles reinforce the word of God and they are important for the preaching of the teachings of Jesus. For 2000 years, including our time, we have not seen any believers who have accompanied or are accompanying these signs. But in the books of the New Testament we read that in the first century, believers performed many miracles. As written: *“And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people”* (Acts 6:8). *“Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them”* (Acts 15:12). *"Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them. And the people with one accord gave heed unto those things which Philip spake, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did. For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed. And there was great joy in that city"* (Acts 8:5-8). Where are Stephanes, Barnabas, Pauls in our time? Where is Philip, who brings great joy to the cities? In which church do the blind gain sight? Where are the lame and bedridden jumping for the joy of being healed? Where are demons cast out? Where are the dead raised? Where are the Prophets? Where do they lay hands on the sick and get rid of sickness? Such miracles are not performed in any church, anywhere in the world. Jesus said: *“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.”* (John 14:12). But where are these believers now doing the works of Jesus and even more than Jesus himself did? The Church of Christ was destroyed in the first century and for 2000 years false churches appear that claim to be the Church of Christ but do not have the testimony of God, that is, miracles. It was by miracles that God testified about the Church of Christ, just as he testified about Jesus. As written: *“Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:”* (Acts 2:22). God testified about Jesus, and then about the Church of Christ by miracles. But the Church of Christ was destroyed in the same way as Christ was killed in due time, and therefore the signs and wonders that accompanied the Church ceased, and now She has been buried for 2000 years, but will rise in the last days as Jesus rose again. The prophecy of the death and resurrection of the Church is present in the parable of the ten virgins (Matthew 25:1-13). "Revelation" also prophesies about the emergence of the Church: *“And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:”* (Revelation 12:1). The emergence of the Church will just be a great sign of the imminent Coming of Christ.
@@edvardzv5660 Regarding your question about why we do not see miracles today, or the gifts of the Spirit, those gifts were for the Apostolic age only. It says in an Old Testament prophecy, "I will show them wonders, according to the days of Egypt". The "days of Egypt" were a 40 year Exodus. The start of the miracles in the New Testament started with the ministry of Christ in 30 AD. There then followed a 40 year Exodus when a righteous remnant of believers were coming out of the Old Covenant age of Israel and into the New Covenant age of the Church. This 40 years was the Apostolic age of miracles and gifts of the Spirit, and they ceased in 70 AD when apostate Jerusalem and the temple were destroyed. The miracles and gifts of the Spirit were for that 1st century apostolic age only, from 30 AD (Christ's ministry) to 70 AD (destruction of temple and the end of the Old Covenant age). The signs and wonders (miracles) were a sign that the Old Covenant age was coming to an end. The miracles were not intended for the New Covenant age. They were only for the Apostolic age in the 1st century.
@patrick!sellers you are right, and might I add Hamas, spurning from the Muslim Brotherhood, are direct descendants of the Nazi tradition using their single hand salute to this day.
This is why people need to know the Bible, so they could see all of the wrong doings this religion, that claims to be Christian, and break free from such nonsense.
@@kacp6485 Christianity is not wrong, this is Mithraism dressed up as Christianity, in my opinion it is the "mystery Babylon" Jesus warns about in Revelations. It's Roman gods and statues given names of the disciples, Sun worship and mother and child god they say is Mary and Jesus. Mary worship is wrong because Jesus is the only mediator for us with God. That is Bible. Also the Roman Catholic church changed the commandments. There is much, I wish you well on your quest for knowledge.
@@kacp6485 there is a series by Walter veith on here called total onslaught, I don't endorse seventh day Adventists beliefs as they add a book called the spirit of prophecy written by Ellen G white on to their Bible beliefs, scripture alone is what we are to follow. However he shines a lot of light on things.
@@janettedavis6627 not at all. The masons will use whatever holy book is prevalent in their country. Qur'an in Muslim countries and Bible in Christian countries. The king James version was the most accurate in my opinion. They went to great lengths translating the received texts, no texts that were "miraculously" found.
I love how there is so much "speculation" and conspiracy theories on Opus Dei, but the truth is much simplier. These people have been watching to many Dan Brown novels. 😐😑😒 Next documentary: "The Dark, and Subliminal, Cultist History of Mr. Rodgers." 😂😂😂
Opus Dei is out for political power in the USA. They will even make a deal with the devil to get J.D.Vance a heartbeat away from the presidency by supporting the non Christian serial adulterer, serial bearer of false witness, defamer and adjudicated sexual predator/rapist Trump.
This seems spoonfed to the makers by the cult. It is a cult, and it has obvious money/power. Trying to look up facts in Wikipedia. it seems the editors all have to argue with church pro editors.. it's sad. I trust this doc as far as I can throw it. Very poor. Gr8! Peace ☮💜Love
People... please don't believe that stuff. If you want to "reveal the secret" you just have to visit a Opus Dei center (there are a lot in many countries), they will treat you as part of their family. Seriously, it woul be good for you to learn more about God, have theological education and even improve your relationship with God.
Nothing spiritual about the tough physical work of the grape harvest? Physical labor has long been the second edge of the sword of spiritual struggle in Christianity, the first being prayer. Idk about self inflicted physical pain as a valid act of the second spiritual work, but to deny the possibility of the sanctity of material exercise is a step removed from denying the Incarnation of God, the ultimate act of the redemption of the physical aspect of humanity.
I did not see anything wrong with anything in this presentation.In fact I may start going back to church after seeing the way they operate. We need more institutions like this. No wonder they are secretive. Imagine!, The Press is bothered by this!They must be doing something right.
Work is a centerpiece of opus dei thought. After all, man was made to work. It's in the Bible After all (really tho, some drunk martian refugee made man to work for him. It wasn't anything special, it was just slave labor. No need to throw some grand spiritual purpose into it). I've been a slave. I've worked for minimum wage, I was enlisted in the military, I was an unpaid intern...I've been a slave. There is no virtue to be found in work for the sake of work. However, there is virtue to be found in things that make you good at work. The opus dei rhetoric used to justify the importance of work has to do with the importance of excellence. There absolutely is virtue to be found in excellence. But virtue in work for the sake of it? I have found none. Excellence is important, excellence is virtuous, and I firmly believe that everyone is excellent at something....I just don't think that something is always something that can be turned into money. And that's the problem with work. Sex work is work, and that's not a blessing for sex work, it is an indictment of work for the sake of work. I don't think work is inherently virtuous...but determination, resolve, endurance, excellence? Those things absolutely are virtuous. But you don't have to work to embody those things. Me? I was at my happiest when I was a garbage man. My time card said park ranger, but my job was a garbage man...and I enjoyed it. Idk, it was a space that was shared by community, I kept it clean, I kept it safe, and it made people happy. I did find virtue in work, but not because I was working, but because of what my work did. I'm also very lazy. I don't like doing things that don't need to be done. Some would call that efficient, and they would not be wrong, but it still comes from laziness. Idk, the whole work thing in opus dei thought was mostly just brainwashing so you would infiltrate government. You should be pissed about being brainwashed. You should be pissed about being used. You should be pissed about being lied to about how important "work" is...but if you'll work with me (pardon the pun, it was intentional), I think we can build build world that encourages excellence, not obedience, and certainly not work. I am not Jesus, despite what you may have been told. I'm a manufactured messiah, which several religious figures have more or less voted on to confirm as a prophet. I am not christ, but the papacy has deemed me as such. I am not a prophet, but both sunni and Shia leaders have agreed that I am. Hell, I'm a libertarian but commies are 70% of my fan base. I'm even pretty popular with satanists. Anyways, I'm not Jesus, and you were deceived to achieve an end. It is a good end though. If you will accept my apology, and accept that I am not a messiah, will you let THIS drunk martian build something that is pretty cool? I've got another maetian and a human 2.0 to help me out, so our odds of success are pretty high. There's one more martian floating around, but his duty is to be the first martian trained by Martians, so he's gonna like....do a whole other thing. It's not important now. It will probably only be important for Martians, which will be important for the planet, but I digress. Anyways you were lied to, but if I can make use of your positions, I can do some jesusy ass shit. I need your Cooperation tho.
He too will know this feeling. My hope is that it will be different. My hope is that he will know the lessons I learned the hard way, and discover insights that escaped me. My hope is that he will be happy. My hope is that he will not concern himself with greatness, because that is where he will find greatness. But mostly I just hope he's happy. I don't care how he finds that happiness. (But seriously, I got some piccolo shit planned for him. It will not be fun...and oh boy will he remember the sights)
But as I was saying, opus dei, you were essentially sleeper agents. So was I, so I know how pissed you must feel. You should feel pissed. Lord knows I am...but I also know you can see what we're fighting. You were manipulated, used, and shuttled around like pawns on a chess board. You should hate the church for that. Even if you say you don't, I know you do, because the same damn thing happened to me. Anyways, we got bigger fish to fry. Please, just work with me so we can defeat the people that made your manipulation necessary. Take your time. It's been three years and it still makes me angry...think of it this way, you down to do some jesusy ass shit? You're uniquely positioned to accomplish some jesusyness. We down to do some jesus shit? Word.
Marlon Munguia, the history you think is Christian history, is history of the Roman Catholic Church. I hope you know how that church started. We cannot confuse issues. Constantine was a human being like you and me. Study him and you’ll understand a lot about what we follow today and call it Christianity.
"Preaching against abortion and contraceptives" that is catholic doctrine not opus dei.
People from the Opus Dei are Catholic
Nathaniel Cerdena Pope Francis literally compared abortionists to Nazis
Not for anti-catholic media lol.
@Volkfire I know
@@josephpardilla5009 why hello joe
Methinks your research is relegated and exclusive to Dan browns novels
love da vinci code :)
In the US, they're part of the Dominionist movement trying to make the US a theocracy. They're not a benign charity.
The old dude who talked against Opus Dei had clearly not been Christian in the first place. He had a good time in a hotel with a lady when he had clearly taken the decision of being celibate. Damn. God help us.
And he shows he doesn't know what confession is. "I confessed and the priest did not punish me, hurdur, this must be wrong". No, dumb prot.
we are all sinners you must remember, how many priests bishops , Popes and even the occasional nun have broken there vows.?? does it make them hypocrites...yes , but like the rest of us it also makes them human as well. I must say thow if they wished to expose the Opus dei move as a dangerous order that brainwashes its members which from his discretion they do seem to use such tactics they Mabe could have picked ex members with a less sinful past.
@@andrey_nacosta well at least he went to confession that shows that he was contrite of course how contrite and repentant he actually was in his hart only god can know that . Doesn't the bible say that non of us are in any position to judge one another?
There are no God's
His attitude towards his sin and confession tells everything about the spirit inside of him. His opinions are that of an apostate.
I was a numerary member of Opus Dei for almost ten years. This is so bad that it doesn't even need refutation. Their main detractor is an unfaithful numerary who slept with prostitutes while having the world believe that he was a faithful celibate member of Opus Dei! Really? A self-admitted hypocrite! That's the best you can do? This kind of saddens me, as I have great appreciation for the Work of God, and attributed all the attacks to the devil's work. But this attack is so unintelligent and self defeating that, if there's any diabolical involvement in it, it must be by some very low level rookie demon; a bad sign that Satan doesn't consider it such a big threat any more...
Xavier Velasco-Suarez yeah I don’t get these people at all.
¡Cállate mentiroso!
@@estrellasboxisticas6360 a quién le dices mentiroso?
Well said.
@@estrellasboxisticas6360 how constructive! :-D great arguments, you really convinced us to your opinion!
This video is another means to tear down the beliefs of a group of people who aren’t blowing people up and try to live a pious life. Ugh.
What about the Spanish inquisition and crusades!? innocent people were terrorized and murdered!!
@@browndemon386 the inquisition was enforced by Spanish monarchs not Catholicism and the crusades was a defense against Muslim assaults on Christian pilgrims in the holy land and Christianity was so peaceful it had to be altered to allow them to defend themselves
@@browndemon386 the spanish inquisition never happed
@@bigleo7724 why are you saying this? It did happen, and it was horrible!!!
@Grim Graven Cemetery i guess you misheard Jesus's love commandments, am i right? What you said it literal sin against God's will :/
He was a priest before the Franco regime.
and what the doctors and church folks did during the franco regime is despicable. 70,000 children where sold to mostly rich families,telling the new parents their child had died in childbirth. that s not religion, that s organized crime.
@@martinemjt I'd prefer to be raised by Christians than communists
@@martinemjt franquism is not Chatolicism
@@e.r2581 If franquism is not catholic, then neither is the O.D because they have been proven to be mason collaborators troughout all the Cold War.
@@angelaseverina2698 I don't understand you, of course Opus Dei is Catholic
Also Josemaria looms larger than JC? Then you show the josemaria statute from the side with a large efigy of JC in the middle that dwarfs Josemaria, lol
Wow, a total disappointment, Journeyman Pictures. I saw some of your earlier documentaries and they seemed interesting enough, but this one is just full of misinformation. Did you actually do any research or did you just pick up the most sensational info you found on the internet?
Why are they playing Handel's Messiah as the pope comes in????
I come from an Opus Dei family where many members venerate Jose Maria Escriva. They are supernumeraries that are total fanatic Catholics. They are totally obcessed with "La Obra." They constantly are praying the rosary, kissing likenesses of Jesus, sleeping on the floor. They tell me, not that I am bound for Hell. But already burning! The whip their backs "disciplines." They wear "celices" on their thighs a couple of hours a day that have unbarbed fish fish hooks that are driven into their flesh. My mother was hospitalized twice that I know of with infections. These people are not neurotic. They are borderline or full on psychotics. They give large amounts of money to their HQ in NYC. They are as demented as ISIS, but to my knowledge are not yet terrorists. I attended Catholic Schools from K to 12. I had a scholarship for University for academics. I was sad as a youth, sad for my family. They insisted that I follow a vocation. Upon graduating from HS I joined the military and stayed for 20 years. I finished college in the military and went to a professional school upon retirement. Opus Dei ruined my family and mentally crippled and destroyed many members of it. They are a very sick, sadomasochistic cult. Nobody should ever trust them. They are hurting the Catholic Church. There is nothing good about this evil cult. They are dangerous and an insult to Jesus Christ and the Holy Mother.
Yeah I had family who followed a false Catholic prophetess until the day she died; sad.
tiene muchas cosas en comun con los testigos de jeovah,, busca dinero poder e influnciar politicamente,. , . es muy peligrosa. en efecto
That´s so true. And I wonder why, instead of hurting their bodies (aka their temples as they say), don´t they do something as sacrificing and is also productive like Jesus would do? If you´re gonna wake up at 5 am to take a freezing shower why not go feed the homeless instead so your sacrifice is not a waste? I don´t have a close Opus Dei member anymore but did you ever ask them this? All they do is selfish bullshit.
I'm so sorry for this, but in this case, your family directly violated teachings of Opus Dei. Usually when someone criticises Opus dei, they only think that all members of it act as bad as the few they personally met. (Which is not true, for example for me, Opus dei is God's gift of group of holy catholif friends which do always the best they could. All memebers are different, so all couldn't be good neither bad) But you are wrong even more, you consider some things as an official cult of Opus dei, though they are not! I have no idea where to start with all the wrong things you wrote
Your parents have no right to call you to any vocation, you should choose it, from what God is telling you. They have no information about his plan for you, so they cannot force you into anything, this is the first and worst thing about violating of Opus Dei rules i noticed. Opus Dei isn't about forcing into anything, so anyone who force, makes a mistake aganst it. So that's for the start
Secondly, it's absolutely wrong to take masochistic type of fasting as an obligation of spiritual life! Real physical hazing are mostly just for the specific chosen mystics, with even things like stigmates or something... There are some few people, God is calling them for, but it's no way of necessity! For most of us, who are not literal mystics of chosen, applies a permanent rule that our body and our health is holy gift from God, and we should take good care of it, and protect it. (Also my Opus Dei friends are supporting me with better healthier lifestyle, for being better person without anxiety from health problems)
They also have no right to tell you you're bound of hell, they shoul love you amd care for you as a parents in teaching of Opus Dei. It's not a neccesity to kiss any pictures or anything, or pray all the time
Real Opus Dei is about living our faith even outside a church, in everyday life, sanctify our work and fight to become a saint right in the ordinar life where God sent us. It's exactly about the point that we are all allowed to be saint, that it's not just for some mystics or priests or chosens, but for all, and we don't need great hollywood scenes and epic miracles to live side by side with God everyday. And it also delegates to sanctify with love basic family life. It is absolutely great cult for catholic church, and it's blessed by Jesus and his Mother!
(And one more thing, in basic life of Opus dei we're learning about the thing "self-mortification" but that doesn't have to do anything with physical self-harm, it's just about, harmless and invisible to everyone except God, withholding of something you hugely want int that mometn, sacrificing something ordinar and little to God. And it's layed only in basic word "no", the chocolate will wait these 10 minutes or something. And once i experienced it, i loved it, when i founf strenght in God to say "no" to my loud appentences, which ruled over me all the time, suddenly i became the leaded and i had the rule over my appentences! I've never felt pure freedom like this, i felt so strong and dignified thanks to it, i couldn't even imagine! I have no idea why someone distort this beautiful thing to something sinful and terrible, though in its keystone is so holy, about breaking chains of appentence and becoming a leader of your decisions!)
The thing you persume as a real cult of Opus Dei is wrong, it's out of point, it's missed from it's inner sense. Don't judge it all just according to group of extremists you know, you're missing a lot
But once again, i'm so sorry you had to get through this experience, i hope you live happier now!
@@kacp6485 Thank you most kindly for your thoughtful comments to me. My comments about those family members that are Opus Dei are not lies. Whether, or not what they do, have done, might do is or is not Opus Dei doctrine is not important aside from the fact that I had to grow up humiliated and terrorized by what I was forced to believe was all of this Opus Dei bullshit. I am a member of a support group of refugees that are Opus Dei Survivors. I help my fellow members recognize their feelings and put them to rest and just thank God that they escaped from this evil Opus Dei diabolical cult. I know people like you quite well. What else can you say to me or another survivor like me, except to blame us? I know all about Jose Maria Escriva and what a cultist deranged motherfucker he was. Jesus Christ would be most certainly punishing his evil ass for sullying his holy name. Only, the Catholic Church would be so evil as to venerate a syphilis chancre upon the face of Christianity like that evil shit bag Escriva. Catholic vocations or any choice of a job should come from within. That I agree with you. It was decided by my family that I should be a priest. It was not my desire to be a priest. In order to escape from my family I joined the Army and stayed for 22 years retiring as SGM. After retirement I went to professional school. I spend my life helping people that are victims of cults. Sorry, but Opus Dei is one of the most reviled and evil cults both to academicians and to the victims of Opus Dei. My patients view me as helping them escape with their sanity and possibly preventing them from committing suicide as a means of escaping their Opus Dei families. Sadly, some have been ruined by this ungodly evil cult. Make no mistake, I thank God every day that I was fortunate enough to escape Opus Dei. I had a sibling that was not as fortunate and committed suicide to escape the depravity of Opus Dei. I have a relative that escaped Opus Dei but requires intensive psychiatric support and psychotropic medications. You have no choice but to condemn survivors like me in order to be an apologist for this most evil Catholic prelate. As for me? I am not a Catholic anymore and do not embrace Christianity in any form. All I can say to you......is simply continue to tell your lies about what Opus Dei is to validate your feelings. You really don't have any choice because if you displease your Opus Dei cult.....cult leadership and cult leaders can sanction you, put a choice on both of your thighs and "apply the discipline to your ass.......or even go so far as to really fuck you up? So stay in your perverted, cynical, evil Opus Dei world knowing more and more in your heart and mind that you are living the Opus Dei cruel cynical lie. V/r, J. B. GARCIA-LOERA, SGM, US.Army, retired and DSW.
When I was looking for a job in 2001, I pray and ask Saint JoseMaria Escriba to help me to pray to the Lord so I could find a job soon and it happened, I have been in my job since then and we are in 2022. Pray for us Saint JoseMaria Escriba.
I've never prayed to any saint to get a job and I am doing great, only grateful to God and my capabilities and hard work
@@A.bormcaxcry about it
Unfortunatly their secrecy leads to gossip and rumours
What’s wrong with self mortification?
I think the idea is that self m*rtification is like self harm, and people who self harm are not mentally stable.
Self m*rtification is also considered by many people (I guess) cultish.
@@passport3763 yes, but self mortification is not limited to whipping yourself or walking on coals. Fasting, abstinence, etc is also self mortification.
@@tylerchua929 not as most people take it to mean, and in linguistics common use of a term is important to its definition. But I guess there might be an anti religion bias, where the prejudice influences common meaning and later definition.
@@passport3763 Fair enough.
I think the selfflagellation is totally weird for me as a Catholic. But I understand there are hundreds of bad people who needs this. The flagellants are people so in need if this, God knows how bad they can be without the mask. Also, I understand the Opus Dei mortification is not that extreme. I don’t know. I don’t mortificare myself because I have dermatitis and my skin itches all the time. There’s a lot of ways to mortificare different from hurting yourself the flesh. For me is a very controversial topic.
Not overly fond of Opus Dei but I have to say this doco is hate hate hate with slick presentation skills.
It is a terrible hatchet job.
It is a prosecution attorney's presentation but worse because there is no defense rebuttal.
From the weasel words used to the soundtrack to the use of innuendoes, their thesis is clear: Opus Dei is evil.
No defense attorney. No vetting of witnesses or counter witnesses. No objections. No counter evidence. No impartial judge.
You only hear the prosecution.
Anglosaxon mixture of hispanophobia and the typical protestant anti catholic sentiment
Cry harder.
@DebsterRiley please refrain a little. Hold off your prejudice. You've been shunned by them but that does not mean you have no christian vocation. Opus Dei take those called to it. Some are wealthy, some poor, some educated, some less so. Don't have hard heart because of your pride. Always be humble.
@DebsterRiley i had the same experience. Actually the first to be approached in New Zealand. I introduced many to it but I was never invited. Actually I never felt the call really. Now married kids but I've seen the good it does for the others. There is big spiritual battle raging out there but different places in the fight for many types. The church is wide enough for a difference charisms.
The use of Greek Orthodox chant in some of these scenes is an interesting juxtaposition. 🤔
tells you how clueless they are...
Glenn Lanham
Not really. Orthodox are significantly more conservative.
These people have no idea what Catholicism is let alone Opus Dei
@Kade Daivis If they were not used at the time of the great schism in 1054 by Catholic Church, they belong to Byzantine Greek & other Orthodox. If they were taken in more recently by these, they’re appropriated.
Schism was huge & far reaching, read history.
Also Handel. Good Protestant music.
A perfectly delivered falsehood. Thank you for trying though
God is interesting faith is appealing
however having attended a church where two of the priest's were abuser's and the wall of see no evil hear no evil and speak no truth by the adults involved with that church no longer being part of this religion is the healthier option for some of us, I suspect that regardless how many new saints and 'secret' societies within the church both God and earth deserve something more honest and less damaging than this church and as all things do in time cease to exist in a particular form there is hope that one day many years ahead something better will carry the Christ story forward whilst leaving the abuse, violence towards children and minorities far behind, Rome was a fine home for Caligula however Christ deserves a cleaner home.
You said it very well! Just, it's terrible when some priest's do these things, but those are doing it against their own faith. If they do, it's not representation of church, but their personal sins. Which are literally forbidden in word we take as Holy :)
Evil inhumane scum there are not sins but crimes against innocence and cover up for these animals equally evil and aborrant what did christ himself say about any one harms a child in anyway be better a milestone round his neck and cast into sea preach christ word but do the Satan's work 0⃣ tolerance for these beasts god bless the sacred heart of jesus and holy mother protect the innocents from these predators and shameless devil's amen
And now they’re supporting Trump!
They have been funneling money thru his businesses for years. They were involved in both Trump and Epstein’s Sex trafficking rings. Read Craig Unger’s book “American Komprat”
Yes, how insane…..for trads the end justifies the means!
For those who have faith no explanation is necessary, for those without faith no explanation will suffice
Dumbest shit I've read in long time 🤦🏾♂️
Having faith doesn’t mean applying a hierarchy of men between myself and god.
Opus Dei is about personal sanctity and apostolate. Using the best in places of worship, priest's vestments is because, God deserves the best not because, the priests are rich.
Yes, it's supposed to be All the Best for God worship and one is then to use all the best for THE SELF or the God Within. Somehow it has turned into the SELF AS A LOWLY NO GOOD SINNER who deserves nothing.!!!
John Rogers funny that the richest preachers on planet earth are all Protestants. 😂🤦🏻♂️ What does the Bible say? Don’t judge the splinter when you have a beam in your eye?
You're the devil.
What ever helps u sleep at night pal😂😂
Religion lumbers believers with needless fear, guilt and shame based on the religious concept 'sin'. It's like a quack doctor convincing you, you have an illness only he can cure. Religion lumbers humanity with needless division, hatred, warmongering, wars etc. Religion is a powerful tool of control for politicians, rulers and a mega cash-cow for its many powerful, wealthy vested interests. Religious institutions are firmly embedded with the ruling elites in every religious country i.e. the reason why religion still survives and thrives despite the fact the Bible is based on a fictional 6,000 year-old Earth where Neanderthals never existed. In the real world, most people have some Neanderthal DNA because our human ancestors mated with Neanderthals and Africans whose ancestors have never left Africa have no Neanderthal DNA. To survive and thrive, humans had to come up with moral codes and laws long before the Bible was invented. ua-cam.com/video/Tl-hI2IsCo0/v-deo.html
Its a place where I found real peace, who taught me to love what I am doing even if its ordinary and how its hard. The people and friends who taught me to develop my personality, to balance the work and spiritual life and to love God.
look I'm glad you found something that keeps your mind off the fact that you have a mortal coil and death is just around the corner... But I was born into Catholicism and went to parochial school, I had many legit questions for the sisters and it was met with kneeling on pencils and saying the penance! I called bullshit after the 4th grade when doing bible study! to me, religion is just an excuse to slaughter other humans who do not believe in the same god or scripture interpretation.. at least that is what history has proven! Best wishes!
@@haurqermereggbertswartz6777 , I believe in God, I couldn’t live without him, feeding my spirit is as important as feeding by body. Said that, I don’t need other people to moderate my relationship with God, my talks with God. As you said, most of the times the name of God has been fraudulently used to rule and oppress the others.
I come to pray to God for my own inner peace in the Church. Don't distract me with Tom, Dick and Harry stories. Your problems, my problems, leave them in the hands of God.
Im so glad for you :-D i have the same experience with opus dei! God sent me those people as a blessing
@@haurqermereggbertswartz6777 great! Give me these questions please! All of them! I spent a lot of time in my life with finding complete answers to complicated questions about christianity, maybe i can tell you something you were looking for
Just for the start, true catholicism is personal relationship with God, something uncompareable with common opinions of atheists about existence of religion - defence against fear of death, explanation of natural phenomenons, tool to manipulate people to serve your person, having moral compass to people without moral, or comfort for weaks who does not believe in themselves. All of these ideas are cute and funny, but completely out of the point, and it's obvious that people telling these, never experienced that insane feeling of being fulfilled with higher happiness, and having a living liquid touchable relationship with God, more than just some abstract nameless 24/7 source of strength or moral compass... :)
He canonised a paedophile. Ffs!
“Today’s Saints are tomorrow sinners” cancel culture in every aspect of life, makes me sad. I’m ready for an O.D. Pope deus Vult
its bad enough we have a Jesuit Pope rn the last thing we would need is a O . D. That is truly one of the Problems in the RCC today you have many that Politics the faith. a O. D. Pope would take the church violently into the other direction which would not be very good ither.
@@e.jenima7263 maybe it's just what we need
i think you mean deo volente, brother, not deus vult; God has not yet willed an opus dei pope.
unless you're just saying it because it's part of the crusader larp, in which case ignore me
The video is so bias
Snowflake!!
@@browndemon386 lol ok
@@browndemon386 u got problem
I just play Stronghold when I want to feel like a Christian :)
Play Kingdom Come Deliverance
it won't help you after you die
Nothing could be further from the truth. lol this video is ridiculous
Opus Dei is not even close to extreme, Just wait for you guys to hear about Rad Trads or Sedevecantists
They ARE a trip.
Peace,
We're not Catholics or even remotely favourable towards Opus Dei but this documentary just mainly seems like a biased hit-piece against the organization.
It would have been stronger if they were able to show/feature other voices too, including other types of detractors, critics, and defenders.
The Moorish Science Monitor
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Catholic sect, not at all a Christian sect
I am so glad I renounced my Catholic faith. I was raised Catholic and have family in Opus Dei. These people just want to have power over you to serve their own interests. And honestly you don't need to be part of any religion to worship God and be spiritual. Stop giving these corrupt people power.
I left catholism too but went further. I renounced all religions. God is only an invention to gain political power, wealth and unending control over fearful masses.
You became protestant?
Oh no, you are correct. Every bad thing that can be said about opus dei and cultiness in general is absolutely true. However, a small caucus of cardinals have voted to declare me as the second coming of christ, so I'd like to work with that for a bit. Opus dei was lied to, opus dei lied to and manipulated its members....but when life gives you lemons, you turn those lemons into weapons against the police state.
But anyways, I can probably do some Jesusy ass shit if people are down for it. I'm the "rich people eye of a needle" kind of Jesus, not the "make me rich you peasants" kind of Jesus. I mean I'm not Jesus...but it's a hat I can wear
I care less about being Jesus, and a whole lot more about ending the police stste, ending hunger, and solving climate change, which kinda seem like the things that Jesus cared about. If the shoe fits?
But I am not the messiah. I am a manufactured messiah......it's just not my fault the manufacturers did a good job.
It’s clear that you didn’t understand the spirit of Opus Dei, which isn’t a bad thing, but it’s dangerous to accuse people of things that you know aren’t true
This is nonsense
I have personal experience
Opus Dei are simply conservative
good living catholics
All I personally know
are good living people who
wish to LIVE their faith
70,000 children were sold to rich families and parents told their newborn had died in childbirth. workings of doctors and religious folks during franco years. sainthood was probably payolla to bring everything out. oh what a tangled web some weave. jean paul two was the best christian pope the catholic church had.
Our priests here are Opus Dei priests and the y are wonderful, you couldn't wish for better.
@@martinemjt ok
Is that fault of Opus Dei? Or christian who wrote that comment? Or christian like me?
No, so, though it's sad, what does it have to do with this topic?
Then they should stay in their church and stay out of worldly politics.
Opus Dei people in the comments are insaaaaane
yes, or maybe naive?
New book just published called “OPUS”. ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND POWER.
Absolutely terrifying. Christo fascism 😢
JESUS CRISTH REJECTS THIS CULTISTS!
The Priest that started Opus Dei sounds Pretty Based...
This is definitely not true. More of half truths. Opus Dei has helped me grow spiritually as a lay Catholic. Parish priests are sometimes very busy and have no time for formation for Catholics who want to learn more about their faith.
This is why the personal prelature helps. I highly recommend it. And if anyone feels mortification is equivalent to self flagellation, they need to understand that it’s just little things like skipping a meal, chocolate or forcing yourself to finish that unpleasant job.
In my opinion likening Opus Dei to ISIS is disingenuous and outrageous. No Opus Dei member would become a suicide bomber.
Not yet
my experience is similar! :-D
and MAN! THANK YOU FOR SOMEONE FINALLY UNDERSTANDING MORTIFICATION!!!!!!! Thank you so much!
St Jerome's church in Punchbowl, Sydney. Priest is one of them and actively recruits the young, dumb and lonely for indoctrination. In particular, he has a preference for successful business owners who make significant financial contributions to the church. Drives around in a brand new Volkswagen (sport model in fact) as a reflection of his 'humility'.
The most dangerous secret agencies in the world 😂
What better place for dark forces to hide in plain sight.
Interesting what brainwashing does🤔
Internal voice. We all have/use it, and it's a natural way to navigate reality. We all speak to ourself to work things out. Some adults, don't understand that their internal voice is their own, and attribute it to others. This is a very dangerous way to view reality. It allows one to offset blame to another, which can easily lead to the worst atrocities. Please understand, that when some people "talk to god" or "jesus" or think it's a "rule written on their heart"... it's a fallacy, and the perfect excuse to act out in reality without recourse.
It saddens me to see so many in this world fall for this con. The con runs a deep rabbit hole when "secret" is involved with a society. All sorts of internal voice friends can be created, and made to act out without the victims knowledge. Please thnk about this topic, and beware. Gr8! Peace ☮💜Love
followers of Jesus changed a lot since his first ministry - from rag clad, hungry ascetics of gospel to gold-clad, well-fed priests and rich men. lol
Yes.!! I'd like for Yeshua to appear in his body right there in front of a pope mass.! They would have him taken away and arrested. How dare he question their gold and riches.
That’s the lie everyone has missed. The church the apostles started , is not the same that Constantine started 300 + years later.
You think Jesus wore rags?
Have you ever been to a monastery? The fact is the only way for Christ to be king is for his people to have power. Also there are still Catholics that do live in poverty and like I said religious sisters and brothers who take vows of poverty
@@johnrogers9481 fortunately not in these days, but in middle age definitely. Sadly, many for example protestants kept in middleage, in looking at catholics. If you're talking about today, we have an amazing pope, which really serves God as well as he can. Change my mind :)
As long as ordinary people face trial and tribulations are there all kinds of cult and religions will emerge.
As a Vatican one catholic that has always the message of the catholic one church of 2000 years of saints by now look at what Vatican 2 ruined the church
Escriva is not a saint but an unholy man
Sound like based Christians to me.
Economic miracle of 1950 was USA donation to build a military base
Glad 2 leave the Church that only taught us 2 say ‘Yes Sir/Madam!’ without noticing any further risks….
Thank you! What was bad?
This living Saint was loved and guided by the holy spirit like his equally holy successor Pope Francis. The opus dei will defend the infallible teachings of both Catholic saints.
ummm Cult.....cult....cult....filled with narcissists who abuse their wives and daughters....pathetic lizards.....Jose marie was a jim jones...and JP 2 should have his sainthood revoked JUST for making him a saint....of course to be a Roman Catholic Saint all you have to do is say you saw the image of Jesus in a cup of coffee and put a bandaid on someone
the REAL Catholic church is the Eastern Orthodox Church WITHOUT 1000 pages of cult like indoctrination....the WORST humans I have ever met were the most devout Roman Catholics
No pope is infallible. No pope is the vicar of Christ. All popes are involved with Jesuits and some with masonry. Rome Catholic church is apostate church that goes against Biblical Christianity & places rituals & tradition as equal or above the Bible.
All who die in Christ are saints. The Catholic Church just likes elevating certain people to manipulate different ethnicities .
There is no "religion" in Heaven.
There is only God in all manifestations.
For me, Jesus Christ as my Redeemer is the Way to God's heaven.
The Holy Spirit of God is my guide on earth through the words of Jesus in the New Testament.
Not Opus Dei .
This was relevant 17 yrs ago?
Preaching against Abortion and contraception are catholic doctrine but personally something does not sit right with me about this Order , its a feeling that leaves a very heavy feeling in my chest and stomach. I tried to watch this with a open mind but all the while there is just something that does not sit well with me about Opus Dei Order but I cant quite place my finger on it.
Its against True Biblical Christianity. They are the ones who killed the true Christians & Jewish people women men boys girls children even babies & the elderly. Thank God for the reformation that brought back biblical Christianity and made it possible for all people to read Gods word.
Probably because they are secretive, claim holiness but are power seekers meddling in Governments trying to create theocracies. They are trying in America , right now, in this election. J.D.Vance is their boy.
You heard that at the begining, that's not clapping, but people whipping themselves.
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Hahaha, whip yourselves piggies ;D Whip yourselves!!
Catholic Taliban
Stay mad
Kay someone's butthurt watching fiction...
Theocracy over democracy.
Opus Dei is a blessing to the world.
Background noise is way too loud.
How ancient is this?
They’re relatively new.
Those "saints" hardly go near to heaven.
This is the most ridiculous video ever. I wonder why this is called "journalism"
What's ridiculous, the admitted self flagellation or women sleeping on wooden floors
Self flagellating is a pagan practice. How it came into Christianity goes back to Constantine and his religion of Mithraism, before he said he was Christian.
Fergus Kabiswa the reality is, most people look to God far more when they’re in pain. Also, your historical analysis is just straight up stupid. The early church was born out of blood, blood, and more blood. The Bible says the blood of martyrs was like watering a plant or something like that. Things like that are said repeatedly in the letters in the New Testament. So I’m pretty sure it has nothing to do with Constantine. Also, I went to a Catholic school for 12 years. No one ever taught me a thing about Mithras...
bhec7715 Dissist from using certain adjectives. Read your Bible right then you’ll understand the place of persecution as Christ intended it to be. You’re equating what the prophets of Baal did to themselves invoking Baal, to how the early church was persecuted to grow the church. Revelation 12 will explain it all.
Then, don’t confuse the religion Constantine instituted; with the Church the apostles started. Revelation 13, will explain that to you.
So which church do you subscribe to. The Apostolic church or mother church?
Despise protestant reporting.
Yeah, it sucks when they expose catholic fascism for what it is.
@@zico739 chungus u are
“Amassing power & wealth”. Yup. That sounds like most religions 🤷♀️ How do people not see that religion is just a way of drawing people together to create power & influence for a few, using our fear of the unknown. It is played out over & over & over throughout history.
Which part of the documentary was not correct? Point it out. Instead of just writing this demon and that demon. He did amass wealth and the Opus Dei were whisperers to the Pope. They are many books written. You should read all by admirers and detractors to get a balanced account.
Opus Dei are against human rights!
Good
@@ZiraRisasi what's is good?
There are many was for the laity to become saints: Legion of Mary, Secular Franciscan's and many other Third Order's
Christian Taliban: Catholic edition.
Really ? Pray tell ...who did they blow up ? Tell us more O Oracle of wisdom.
@@conlaiarlathey are working with Trump and Vance, a recently made Catholic married to a practicing Hindu, and the Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society to blow up the Democratic Constitutional Republic of America by replacing the Constitution, Bill of Rights and amendments with Project 2025 and Agenda 47.
*17 year old video reposed because; 1. Journeyman Pictures does not like a Republican in the White House and 2. Journeyman Pictures has nothing else to do, hence 3. Journeyman Pictures should get out of the amateur journalism business and learn to code*
says the guy whose *boldface* button is stuck on.
Are all journalists hobbyists and/or part time investigators?...
Opus Dei is disgusting in every sense of the word
JP II simplified centuries of traditional rules for saint-making…….so much for tradition…….trads pick and choose which traditions they want to keep……
A saint is a christian-one who loves and obeys Jesus Christ and only Jesus Christ grants sainthood not some heretical pedophile preist whos every religious practice is an abomination to God and is conedemned in the bible they say their church gets their religion from. The institution of the Roman Catholic church does not produce saints nor does it have the power to make someone become a saint, a saint isnt a necklace or someone you pray to they are simply the dead and living righteous souls covered by the blood of Christ that will inherit the kingdom of God. Dead people cant hear you only dempons and angels thats why we are commanded to pray to the Father through Christ inspired by the HolySpirit not to dead people. Saint means holy, set apart from the world for the use of God, all real christians that know love and obey Christ are saints.
The pope doesn’t make people saints people make themselves saints by living holy lives and after death if miracles are performed during their life time or after their death when someone asks them to pray for them then the they are canonized which means the pope recognizes officially that they are in heaven with God he doesn’t make them that way though
loved jean paul two! he was the best christian pope the catholic church had, and he didn t believe in fascism! sanctity through work, sounds very similar to freedom through work, or work will set you free.
He has part in killing millions people.
@@eevve9894 he was against what you call "killing", only what he did was speaking against fornication. What became from it isn't his guilt. And you know it.
@@eevve9894 he was Pope WHILE thousands of priests were raping boys around the world.....and anyone who says he didnt know is either an idiot or a liar
Reading the books of the New Testament, we probably asked ourselves more than once: *"Why 2000 years we do not see those miracles that accompanied the Сhurch of Christ in the I century, as described in the New Testament?"* Why do the so-called preachers of Christ have to prove that Jesus really existed and atheists boldly deny the historicity or divine origin of Christ? Maybe because the Сhurch of Christ has not existed for 2000 years?
The Сhurch does not exist in the form in which it is presented in the books of the New Testament, but there are Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant and other christian sects claiming to be the place of the Church, but they not have the only thing that distinguishes the divine from the human and is characteristic of just the Сhurch of Christ -the reinforcement of the word with signs, that is, miracles (Mark 16:15-20). Therefore, some researchers doubt the historicity of Christ, and some of them are not opposed to declaring him a an ordinary philosopher, teacher. But even if Jesus were an ordinary philosopher, his disciples would be ordinary followers of Jesus. And they would not dare to write about the miracles that not only Jesus, but also his disciples, could perform. In this world, the great fertility of atheism can be explained by the fact that there is no main opponent of critics of the Bible - the Church. If there were the Church in our time as described by the authors of the New Testament books, where miracles are performed, the sick are healed, where prophesied, and the dead are raised, no one would doubt the historicity of Christ. Then there would be the same controversy throughout the world as in the first century - Jesus the Son of God or the false prophet who seduces the world by miracles. As a result, we can say that the emergence and development of christian sects and atheism was the result of the fact that over the 2000 years the Сhurch of Christ did not exist.
Find *"The Mystery about the Church of Christ"* video on UA-cam, which shows the real causes of Christian sects and atheism. The video reveals a prophecy about the disappearance and reappearance of the Church of Christ before the end of the world. Watching this video will bring joy to all who sincerely seek God and will interest those who are not too lazy to think freely. (The video is in Russian, but English subtitles are included)
The church has existed since Pentecost. Jesus said I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. The true church of Christ are the ones Who believe in the name of Jesus Christ repented of their sins and put there full trust in the lord Jesus Christ And actually follow the lord Jesus Christ and his commandments To do the will of his father which is in heaven And there have always been True bible believe in Christians as there was since the days of Pentecost.
@@jonathannixon8652 You write: *"Jesus said I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."* - As for the words "I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." they do not mean that Christ's church was not to die. This is a misinterpretation of Jesus' words. Jesus also died when He was crucified, but that doesn't mean death overcame Him, does it? Of course not, because Christ rose from the dead and thereby conquered death. As it is written: *"Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it"* (Acts 2:24). This is what happened to the Church.
The gates of hell are death, and hell is a dwelling place for the dead. So the words *"I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it"* indicate that the Church was to die, go to hell, and then rise again as Christ did. After all, one can only defeat death (escape from the gates of hell that hold the dead) by dying and rising again and in no other way.
Just as Christ could not be defeated by the gates of hell and was resurrected on the third day, so the Church will be resurrected, but it will happen before the End of the World.
Just the death and resurrection of the Church reveals the great mystery of Christ and the Church, which the Apostle Paul speaks of when he draws an interesting parallel between the relationship between husband and wife and Christ and the Church. *“For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church"* (Ephesians 5:31-32).
The true essence of the integrity of Christ and the Church is that Jesus and the Church were to live the same life as husband and wife according to the *"two are one flesh".* And if they crucified Christ, they later crucified His Church. It could not have been expected otherwise. The world could not be cruel to Christ and benevolent to the Church, for the principle of integrity two are one flesh would be violated.
But the most important and joyful thing is that the Church is one with Christ both in persecution, suffering, and death and in resurrection. As Jesus was crucified and on the third day risen, so will happen to the Church. *"This is a great mystery..."* is revealed in a true understanding of the principle *"two are one flesh,"* which means that the Church as Christ had to go from Calvary to the Resurrection.
@@jonathannixon8652 You write: *"The church has existed since Pentecost. The true church of Christ are the ones Who believe in the name of Jesus Christ repented of their sins and put there full trust in the lord Jesus Christ And actually follow the lord Jesus Christ and his commandments To do the will of his father which is in heaven And there have always been True bible believe in Christians as there was since the days of Pentecost."* - What can we know about the Church of Christ? What was she like? We know about the Church of Christ only what is known from the books of the New Testament. We do not know of any other Church of Christ outside the New Testament. What was the Church of Christ in the books of the New Testament? Certainly not symbolic and not invisible, but a strictly hierarchical organization consisting of believers baptized with the Holy Spirit, where the Gifts of the Holy Spirit were manifested.
As written: *"Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues"* (1 Corinthians 12:27-28).
This was the Church of Christ in the first century, but for 2000 years we no longer see such a Church of Christ, there are no Apostles, no prophets, no one has miraculous powers and gifts of healing. But we see gatherings of people headed only by teachers speaking in the name of Christ, but not having the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
Jesus said: *"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.*
*So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following..."* (Mark 16:15-20).
I would like to draw your attention to these words: "the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following".
that is, miracles reinforce the word of God and they are important for the preaching of the teachings of Jesus.
For 2000 years, including our time, we have not seen any believers who have accompanied or are accompanying these signs. But in the books of the New Testament we read that in the first century, believers performed many miracles.
As written: *“And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people”* (Acts 6:8).
*“Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them”* (Acts 15:12).
*"Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them. And the people with one accord gave heed unto those things which Philip spake, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did. For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed. And there was great joy in that city"* (Acts 8:5-8).
Where are Stephanes, Barnabas, Pauls in our time? Where is Philip, who brings great joy to the cities?
In which church do the blind gain sight? Where are the lame and bedridden jumping for the joy of being healed? Where are demons cast out? Where are the dead raised? Where are the Prophets? Where do they lay hands on the sick and get rid of sickness? Such miracles are not performed in any church, anywhere in the world.
Jesus said: *“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.”* (John 14:12).
But where are these believers now doing the works of Jesus and even more than Jesus himself did?
The Church of Christ was destroyed in the first century and for 2000 years false churches appear that claim to be the Church of Christ but do not have the testimony of God, that is, miracles. It was by miracles that God testified about the Church of Christ, just as he testified about Jesus.
As written: *“Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:”* (Acts 2:22).
God testified about Jesus, and then about the Church of Christ by miracles. But the Church of Christ was destroyed in the same way as Christ was killed in due time, and therefore the signs and wonders that accompanied the Church ceased, and now She has been buried for 2000 years, but will rise in the last days as Jesus rose again.
The prophecy of the death and resurrection of the Church is present in the parable of the ten virgins (Matthew 25:1-13).
"Revelation" also prophesies about the emergence of the Church: *“And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:”* (Revelation 12:1).
The emergence of the Church will just be a great sign of the imminent Coming of Christ.
You want miracles then look into chronicles of the desert, and the monks of mount athos and sinai. True miracles happening in orthodox church
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Regarding your question about why we do not see miracles today, or the gifts of the Spirit, those gifts were for the Apostolic age only. It says in an Old Testament prophecy, "I will show them wonders, according to the days of Egypt". The "days of Egypt" were a 40 year Exodus. The start of the miracles in the New Testament started with the ministry of Christ in 30 AD. There then followed a 40 year Exodus when a righteous remnant of believers were coming out of the Old Covenant age of Israel and into the New Covenant age of the Church. This 40 years was the Apostolic age of miracles and gifts of the Spirit, and they ceased in 70 AD when apostate Jerusalem and the temple were destroyed. The miracles and gifts of the Spirit were for that 1st century apostolic age only, from 30 AD (Christ's ministry) to 70 AD (destruction of temple and the end of the Old Covenant age). The signs and wonders (miracles) were a sign that the Old Covenant age was coming to an end. The miracles were not intended for the New Covenant age. They were only for the Apostolic age in the 1st century.
The thumbnail to this video seems to feature the perfect covid mask.
18:13 Opus Dei investments rolling in dough
HA HA what a joke did Dan Brown write this??
3:00 the cloud looks like in the shape of the United Kingdom 🇬🇧
Wow the British rip off country doesn't know catholicism
this is what was in the old testament as the baal worship
Can you explain more on this please bro? I’m trying to learn
I have heard it described as the SS of the Catholic Church .
Oh stop, the Nazis were humanists. Also last time I checked they dont go around executing others
If there is an SS analogy to a religion... check the Muslims out.
@@georgemappin9130 There actually were Muslim SS Divisions lol
@patrick!sellers you are right, and might I add Hamas, spurning from the Muslim Brotherhood, are direct descendants of the Nazi tradition using their single hand salute to this day.
Catholicism is not Christianity
a 1 child limit I support
This is why people need to know the Bible, so they could see all of the wrong doings this religion, that claims to be Christian, and break free from such nonsense.
Okay, can you please tell me, what part from Bible shows christianity is wrong? I'm really curious about that
@@kacp6485 Christianity is not wrong, this is Mithraism dressed up as Christianity, in my opinion it is the "mystery Babylon" Jesus warns about in Revelations. It's Roman gods and statues given names of the disciples, Sun worship and mother and child god they say is Mary and Jesus. Mary worship is wrong because Jesus is the only mediator for us with God. That is Bible. Also the Roman Catholic church changed the commandments. There is much, I wish you well on your quest for knowledge.
@@kacp6485 there is a series by Walter veith on here called total onslaught, I don't endorse seventh day Adventists beliefs as they add a book called the spirit of prophecy written by Ellen G white on to their Bible beliefs, scripture alone is what we are to follow. However he shines a lot of light on things.
The Bible is Masonic nonsense too.
@@janettedavis6627 not at all. The masons will use whatever holy book is prevalent in their country. Qur'an in Muslim countries and Bible in Christian countries. The king James version was the most accurate in my opinion. They went to great lengths translating the received texts, no texts that were "miraculously" found.
I love how there is so much "speculation" and conspiracy theories on Opus Dei, but the truth is much simplier. These people have been watching to many Dan Brown novels. 😐😑😒
Next documentary: "The Dark, and Subliminal, Cultist History of Mr. Rodgers." 😂😂😂
and now Mr Rodgers is being cancelled...because of his song about being born a boy or a girl, lol.
Opus Dei is out for political power in the USA. They will even make a deal with the devil to get J.D.Vance a heartbeat away from the presidency by supporting the non Christian serial adulterer, serial bearer of false witness, defamer and adjudicated sexual predator/rapist Trump.
This isn’t the Opus Dei as practiced in the USA.
The background music is maddening.
This seems spoonfed to the makers by the cult. It is a cult, and it has obvious money/power. Trying to look up facts in Wikipedia. it seems the editors all have to argue with church pro editors.. it's sad. I trust this doc as far as I can throw it. Very poor. Gr8! Peace ☮💜Love
Why don’t you trust it?
People... please don't believe that stuff. If you want to "reveal the secret" you just have to visit a Opus Dei center (there are a lot in many countries), they will treat you as part of their family. Seriously, it woul be good for you to learn more about God, have theological education and even improve your relationship with God.
Only what they want you to see......
Nothing spiritual about the tough physical work of the grape harvest? Physical labor has long been the second edge of the sword of spiritual struggle in Christianity, the first being prayer.
Idk about self inflicted physical pain as a valid act of the second spiritual work, but to deny the possibility of the sanctity of material exercise is a step removed from denying the Incarnation of God, the ultimate act of the redemption of the physical aspect of humanity.
wtf this is such a load of bull
I did not see anything wrong with anything in this presentation.In fact I may start going back to church after seeing the way they operate. We need more institutions like this. No wonder they are secretive. Imagine!, The Press is bothered by this!They must be doing something right.
Work is a centerpiece of opus dei thought. After all, man was made to work. It's in the Bible After all (really tho, some drunk martian refugee made man to work for him. It wasn't anything special, it was just slave labor. No need to throw some grand spiritual purpose into it).
I've been a slave. I've worked for minimum wage, I was enlisted in the military, I was an unpaid intern...I've been a slave. There is no virtue to be found in work for the sake of work. However, there is virtue to be found in things that make you good at work. The opus dei rhetoric used to justify the importance of work has to do with the importance of excellence. There absolutely is virtue to be found in excellence.
But virtue in work for the sake of it? I have found none. Excellence is important, excellence is virtuous, and I firmly believe that everyone is excellent at something....I just don't think that something is always something that can be turned into money. And that's the problem with work. Sex work is work, and that's not a blessing for sex work, it is an indictment of work for the sake of work.
I don't think work is inherently virtuous...but determination, resolve, endurance, excellence? Those things absolutely are virtuous. But you don't have to work to embody those things.
Me? I was at my happiest when I was a garbage man. My time card said park ranger, but my job was a garbage man...and I enjoyed it. Idk, it was a space that was shared by community, I kept it clean, I kept it safe, and it made people happy. I did find virtue in work, but not because I was working, but because of what my work did.
I'm also very lazy. I don't like doing things that don't need to be done. Some would call that efficient, and they would not be wrong, but it still comes from laziness. Idk, the whole work thing in opus dei thought was mostly just brainwashing so you would infiltrate government. You should be pissed about being brainwashed. You should be pissed about being used. You should be pissed about being lied to about how important "work" is...but if you'll work with me (pardon the pun, it was intentional), I think we can build build world that encourages excellence, not obedience, and certainly not work.
I am not Jesus, despite what you may have been told. I'm a manufactured messiah, which several religious figures have more or less voted on to confirm as a prophet. I am not christ, but the papacy has deemed me as such. I am not a prophet, but both sunni and Shia leaders have agreed that I am. Hell, I'm a libertarian but commies are 70% of my fan base. I'm even pretty popular with satanists.
Anyways, I'm not Jesus, and you were deceived to achieve an end. It is a good end though. If you will accept my apology, and accept that I am not a messiah, will you let THIS drunk martian build something that is pretty cool? I've got another maetian and a human 2.0 to help me out, so our odds of success are pretty high.
There's one more martian floating around, but his duty is to be the first martian trained by Martians, so he's gonna like....do a whole other thing. It's not important now. It will probably only be important for Martians, which will be important for the planet, but I digress.
Anyways you were lied to, but if I can make use of your positions, I can do some jesusy ass shit. I need your Cooperation tho.
Hah, the first martian trained by Martians. Remy is the hope that we can actually get this right. I think I know how piccolo felt now. Oof....
He too will know this feeling. My hope is that it will be different. My hope is that he will know the lessons I learned the hard way, and discover insights that escaped me. My hope is that he will be happy. My hope is that he will not concern himself with greatness, because that is where he will find greatness. But mostly I just hope he's happy. I don't care how he finds that happiness.
(But seriously, I got some piccolo shit planned for him. It will not be fun...and oh boy will he remember the sights)
But as I was saying, opus dei, you were essentially sleeper agents. So was I, so I know how pissed you must feel. You should feel pissed. Lord knows I am...but I also know you can see what we're fighting. You were manipulated, used, and shuttled around like pawns on a chess board. You should hate the church for that. Even if you say you don't, I know you do, because the same damn thing happened to me. Anyways, we got bigger fish to fry. Please, just work with me so we can defeat the people that made your manipulation necessary. Take your time. It's been three years and it still makes me angry...think of it this way, you down to do some jesusy ass shit? You're uniquely positioned to accomplish some jesusyness. We down to do some jesus shit? Word.
10:56 🩸
Your bias is palpable, shame on you.
I love the Work of God
10:40 Christian shia in Ashura day hahahahahhaahhhahahahhahahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahha
Bigotted documentary
Marlon Munguia, the history you think is Christian history, is history of the Roman Catholic Church. I hope you know how that church started. We cannot confuse issues. Constantine was a human being like you and me. Study him and you’ll understand a lot about what we follow today and call it Christianity.
WTF.
Jesus is writing in the sand...
two words: Rosslyn Chapel