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another group really responsible for the state of things are fundumental baptists and fundie evangelicals. you should definitely do one on the IFB and the NIFB.
one question for you though, why so many Christians in the USA put this big focus on "Jewish" stuff but never ask the actual Jewish people about our own stuff... I can assure you one thing, a Jewish year never lines up with a gregorian year, Jewish years are either 353-5 or 383-5 days long... we have shorter years but add a month every few years, and the months are set by moon cycles... also the Shabbat is Saturday, Saturday in Hebrew is called Shabbat, it just Jewish calendar was made before the idea of a 24 hours day, so the day switch at sunset, not at six in the evening nor midnight, since hours don't really exist in Jewish calendars. all of this is just scratching the surface.
It's 10 PM here. I have to work tomorrow ans my alarm clock is set for 6.15 AM. I'm telling myself that I really don't have the time to watch an almost 3 hour video. Yet here I am
@@lynxk7667 I'm guessing they defined laziness different to the rest of us. Typically, lazy people don't enslave people to labour for them, they just do the labour themselves.
It’s funny how apocalyptic predictions always happen within the lifespan of most of the believers. It’s never “I predict the world will end in 2253. So ya’ll better tell your grand kids to prepare.”
That’s because there is nothing to spur people into fervor in something that won’t affect them in their lifetime. “Oh the world is gonna go boom in a century. Huh okay.” compared to “Holy shit the world is gonna end in five minutes?!? Fuck fuck fuck I need to prepare.” It’s all about inducing a sense of urgency.
I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your integrity in not posting Speampunk KB's video, despite your verbal agreement. It's his work, and he really should make a channel of his own to post it to. I'm sure in the long run he'll appreciate the shoutout more than you posting something ghostwritten by him
@MurderMostFowl there's a lore Recap video if you want to have a look this storyline's been developing for years at this point throughout all religion videos on the channel
@@MurderMostFowldont be embarrassed we have waited several years for this video and steam punk KB is a time traveller/future kb from alternative timeline that has been hinting toward it for years lol
Wait, that wasn't grey...yeah, I'm also colorblind, but really can't say that I had any idea that it wasn't Grey. How could you tell, I thought it was just an inside joke.
my aunt is SDA and I used to love going to their church as a kid. They come across as nice and somewhat progressive and they never pushed their religion onto me. I used to go to a SDA camp every year, Loved the veggie food and many nature activities . I'm an atheist nowadays but I look back fondly at those experiences,
I also grew up culturally SDA in Australia and when I revisited the church as a young adult (19), they became very hostile anytime something didn’t perfectly line-up with their opinions, they mentioned that Archangel Michael is Jesus, I asked for evidence and they got mad that I questioned it. They stood by that our works meant nothing despite them also stating that we get judged on them in conjunction with our faith.
@@zakh-g4893 Wait a minute I thought only Jehovah's witness only believes Jesus Christ is Michael the Archangel OMG seventh Day Adventist and Jehovah's witness are Connected it make sense now no wonder my friend can relate to my ex Jw beliefs system 😕 😲🙆🏽♀️
If I had a nickel for every time a new religion formed in America in the 1800s with a venerated prophet-like woman heading it who suffered massive brain trauma in her childhood, I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happed twice
It blows me away that these people are like, "I have exhaustively studied The Bible, and Jesus will return in this month [insert month and math here]."They studied and made an these connection but overlook the bit where Jesus straight up says, "No one but I know when I'll return, and I'm not going to tell, so pay attention cause I'll take you by surprise." It is about as clear as anything in the Bible gets, and there are a bunch of other illustrations of how Christians are not going to know. All that stuff about the tarrying bridegroom is telling believers to be ready and follow Christ at all times, because no one will know when the return will happen, so all you can do is wait and follow.
Hello, former Adventist here. Yes, Adventists today generally interpret that passage of Matthew 24 to mean what you said. No one will know when Jesus is coming down to the hour, and anyone who claims to know is likely a heretic. Adventists just believe the end times are vaguely soon and that there are some things that will happen that will make the fact that the end times are coming clear to believers, albeit not down to the hour. Adventists believe that before the Second Coming, the United States will become a theocracy and dominate the world which...just might happen after all. KB will probably get into investigative judgment and the remnant church and all that. I just started the video.
@Syndie77-gk4xk Yeah I was raised in an evangelical household. My dad has basically been kicked out of the church for not being a devoted follower of the One True God (Donald J. Trump) and for actually advising Christians to pay attention to a Jesus. The idea of "vaguely soon" like you said pretty well holds with modern evangelicals too, but I wasn't making that comment in reference to what groups think now. I was referencing how several groups over time keep trying to do a thing that Jesus told them like 50 times not to do because it can't be done, and if they had studied the Bible as deeply as they claim, they'd obviously understand the futility of their predictions.
It could in theory become one because the whole state has been a collection of quasi spiritual Elites and also a military/secret/special state/ modeled on a similar empire to that of the British which had echos of past Roman/Greek ideas. @@Syndie77-gk4xk
When do you think the Bride groom would come around. This is based on Jewish lore. Why don't you have information to understand the context and background information...so you know the Hour the Groom would come and the tradition behind it!?
@@nomar5spauldingJesus is a vague master. But his way of hunting is speaking so obviously that it's no longer like REALLY hidden. Jewish religious knowledge was based in part on a bunch of cosmic or something related to stars. And their positions. It's part of their culture... ..
I find it kinda funny when people say they're biblical literalists and study the bible deeply and ignore the "'The heaven and the earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. And concerning that day and the hour no one hath known -- not even the messengers of the heavens -- except my Father only;" bit
That's an interesting point! Now these days sda acknowledge the mistake as the date being the start of the account of deeds... Or something. But the og millerinites? Yeah totally ignored that chapter.
@@lucyferos205 Not really, the Biblical texts literally states that it would happen "as the thief that comes in the night", sudden and with zero notice for anyone.
Mesoretic texts and Judaism explain things in cycles and biblical calendar years. As well as the book of Enoch. And other prophets of old, including certain sects that kept alive records and stories of what actually happen. Let me explain that it's not Just Adventists. It goes beyond normal Protestant sectarianism.. something that is a blend of highly advanced technologies and science fi. To something way more weird.
I heard the description of Tell The World, thought "man, I can't imagine a more boring movie than a 2-and-a-half hour long film about Seventh Day Adventism" and held that thought for 5 seconds before the irony kicked in.
@@CommieHunter7 Oh it wasn't a criticism. It was just a funny moment. I thought "who'd want to watch a 2.5 hour movie about the origins of Seventh-day Adventism" while watching a 3 hour video essay about the origins of Seventh-day Adventism. This video is about the various controversies and intricacies of the church, which is far more interesting, whereas the film is a fluff piece that is about as bland as their diet.
As an ex Jehovah's witness, it is fascinating to see the origins of my cult. Many of their beliefs are already found in the 19th century Millerite movement.
@@lainiwakura1776 I know, I have seen that one too, but the founder of the JWs used to like the teachings of the Millerites, so there are many similarities there
One teensy little nitpick, Constantine did not make Christianity the official religion of the Roman empire, that's a common misconception. He legalized the practice, but it wasn't made the state religion until 380 under Theodosius I.
this may be a bit of a stupid question, but Constantine was involved in some way with The Council of Nicea, right? Was Theodosius I also involved? I had always thought that The Council of Nicea and Christianity becoming the state religion co-occurred. (apologies if this is rude!! it's a genuine curiostiy question, Im just not having an easy time wording it)
@@biohazardously Not rude at all, and another common misconception thanks to Dan Brown and the Da Vinci Code. The council of Nicea (ad 325) happened in order to resolve a conflict between the two main branches of christianity at the time, but it did not make christianity the state religion or decide the canon of the bible. Constantine actually continued to allow and sanction pagan worship throughout his entire reign, and one of his successors, Julian (sometimes known as Julian the Apostate) even tried to promote paganism after christianity had become mainstream, but it wasn't until Theodosius that the empire was officially christian.
@@jeffreygao3956 It's kind of a fun story, but the problem is that way too many people took Dan Brown's bogus historical claims seriously. His entire premise is based on a French hoax from the 1960's. This one French guy, Pierre Plantard, wanted to fabricate for himself a claim to the French monarchy, so he made up this secret society. Then some American authors interviewed him and connected one too many dots and claimed he was descended from Jesus, which Plantard himself was like whoaaa now, that's blasphemy. I encourage anyone who wants to know more to google the book Holy Blood Holy Grail
@@biohazardously the guy above already answered all your questions well. I would just like to add that it is a (likely completely false) legend that Saint Nicholas, aka Santa Claus (sorta), clocked or slapped an Arian priest (the other major Christian Sect) in the council of Nicea. Also, Theodosious I wasn't involved as the council had concluded 22 years before he was born.
@@warlordofbritanniaI mean, to be petty (which does seem to be on topic), you usually describe the evolution of children as growing rather than aging. Generally when people evaluate the "aging" of a person they compare them to their early adulthood, and in that regard Jones has evolved remarkably little, hence he has aged well. Feel free to invoke holy scriptures such as a dictionary though, maybe I have a wrong idea of the definition of the word...
@@JerdifierBased on KB's past videos, it would be Evangelists. He's mentioned them before, has drawn relevance to how they affect modern American politics, and has more relevant history in the US To do a video on Catholicism would have essentially nothing to do with the US, and the founders wouldn't be as relatable as Americans in the 1700s and 1800s.
I was born into the SDA church and went through the SDA education system up to the university level. But I learned more about the church in this video then living that experience, which is kind of crazy. Great video!
You are not alone. I have learnt more deconstructing from Adventism than I did in it. I'm in a constant state of deja vu "Oh, yeh, that's what they meant.
Hi! Same here, I’m actually surprised more adventists don’t research what they believe in. I was also shocked to learn so much they never covered in church and classes. I sent this video to my brother (currently getting his theology masters at Andrew’s) and I am looking forward to hearing his point of view.
@SuperDocstar sure, I guess that's a fairly obvious observation. At the same time when they themselves only know what their parents and the church told them it's hard to blame them over the church.
@@swayback7375 I'm a full time caregiver for special needs siblings. Amongst the MANY downsides of working with and for family due to being unable to drive? that is a sortof upside. Yay?
My grandfather died yesterday and he was a life long Seventh Day Adventist. I wasn't close to him so I was not expecting this video to help me deal with his loss. Mostly because he'd be mad I'm watching this this.
I'm so sorry that you lost your grandfather. I am a somewhat rebel SDA. I find this video educational and respectful. We need to be able to recognize both the truths AND the errors. I hope this video may give you some insight to your grandfather and his heritage. I'm learning to eat the meat and spit out the bones.
I just reached the end of the video. My condolences on the passing of Atlas and Peabody. May they forever live as the multiplayer robots from Portal 2.
"Inspired by the unpublished work of Steampunk KB ... That ought to cover it, right?" This is even funnier knowing that this becomes a video about plagiarism. 😂
@@coda-n6u it comes up a lot in maths too, you don't go around citing every single proof that eg 1+1, there's plenty of accepted axioms. But that has led to a couple of cases in physics or chemistry where one claim from one paper is cited-directly enough times that it "becomes known", even though it's not actually been replicated. Those are kind of rare though. But of course they're also by definition unknown-unknowns until they are uncovered, so... there's potentially more out there. (But that's just a small subset of the much larger "crisis of replicability" that is currently ongoing in all scientific research, which is a whole other topic.)
@@kaitlyn__L It’s interesting! Mostly a trade off between the effort of citation and how much it impedes reading by a well educated reader, versus how helpful it actually is.
I got to tell you. Nothing is more disappointing than when a favorite creator covers a topic where one has personal expertise and blows it. It shatters trust in all of their other content. Well as a life long, and now ex-, mormon I have to say that the KB vid on the mormons is an absolute masterpiece... factually, contextually and tonally it is utterly flawless in its depiction of mormonism. 10 out of 10. Absolutely no notes. So im juiced for this latest installment. 🍿🍿🍿 Edit: just for clarity I was out of the church for a few years before I saw the KB mormons video. But it was noteworthy that from the outside KB was both so accurate and so even handed. Seeing him operate with this level of depth and fair mindedness has boosted my confidence in all the other KB content. Cheers.
I had the same experience when he covered the JWs. He nailed it! I was already on my way out of the religion but that definitely helped solidify my thoughts.
@@gjhartist3685 Glad to hear it.. I was out of the mormons before hand, but seeing him "get it right" as an outsider has made all his other content that much better.
Went to an SDA k-12 school, and am currently in an SDA university. Not fun, 0 out of 10 stars do not recommend it (the anxiety disorder I have from it would also not recommend it). My entire family is Adventist, and I was raised that way. I love them dearly, and am grateful for some of the people I've met in the Adventist community.... but it's brain-numbing. I'm currently required to take a certain number of religion credit hours to graduate, and because it's a tiny little Christian university, transferring may mean I graduate years later than just sticking it out. I can confirm this video's accuracy. While there are some fun little quirks not mentioned in this video, it's such a relief to watch a video so honest and factual. I feel a little trapped and alone in my situation, but I find sanity in videos like this. Thank you for this 3-hour video, it was a lovely distraction from the current "Christian Beliefs" homework I'm putting off. Thank you, you have no idea how much I needed this :).
I attended an SDA college many years ago, and it wasn't horrible-but mostly because I'd been in academy, and there was more freedom, such as it was, at the college. The worst class I remember being required to take was "A Christian and His Music" and it was as awful as it sounds. The Desire of Ages was the text for our Life and Teachings of Jesus course. I wish you the best, and hope your time there speeds by. I am no longer sda, but most of my friends and family are. There is a life beyond, and it is good.
@austinbaccus there's a certain number of religion courses that have no relivancy to my degree, but are required. Like generals you have to take at every university, except some of mine are just studying Ellen White 😅
@@ameliaeno3266 I see. That's dumb. I had a similar experience in computer science. Right before I graduated, I counted all the classes that actually had you writing code, and it was something like 40% of the total courses. I feel for ya. Irrelevant classes are a waste of time and money.
"what do you mean the color for water can mean blue or green" "...have you seen water? It is either blue or green." Using green loosely obvs lol Edit:not referencing bluegreen, I think the color was Glas but that could be another one entirely. Too lazy to look it up rn.
@@Tomf-tz4pd she copied text from other people and publications - that's literally what they tell you not to do in college when you're writing a paper. either you quote it directly or paraphrase it but either way you need to include your sources. college must be really strict on prophets since you can get expelled for having 'prophetic inspiration' lol
@sytonicflux Hbombs plagiarism video came out after KB’s last video, so the little comment about using other people’s work, and the ‘Based on the unpublished work, sign in the intro are referencing that Drama. Hbomb has been doing long ass videos for a few years mow. The dues Ex video was over 3 hours long
This is one gag I hope never dies...when we make contact with aliens I fully expect peace talks to go half way then "we have been monitoring your communications...and this has been a green screen all along and this is a video about plagiarism. Nak Nak Nak. Pew pew"
@@intellectually_lazythe prior 97 minutes are basically explaining the SDA, their origins, etc 😭 it’s not like he was dragging it out and repeating the same info. the video in its entirety is extremely interesting. the intro is only for the plagiarism and takedown segment
@@schedar_cassiopeia nothing to do with the intro. i hate the new format knowing better switched to a couple years back, and btw, if you wanna know more about 7th day adventists, there's the book, white lies
@@schedar_cassiopeia i don't like the character acting spiel. i don't like him expousing these views fully in character. i don't like that he's not clear this is parody. maybe i'm underestimating my fellow humans, but i don't like it because i think he will convert some people. he should know better!
I’m really sorry for your losses. Atlas and Peabody were lovely additions to your videos and excellent representatives for all small mammals. It was clear how loved they were ❤
3 ads played throughout this video. Compare to most 20 minute videos, which have an ad every 5 minutes. Same number of ads, 9x the runtime. I respect this. Thank you. And thank you to all patrons and supporters who make this possible.
IIRC anything over 20 minutes and many large creators get to choose how many and where the ad breaks go So the ~20 min videos is UA-cam controlled and injected ads, KB's is likely intentional. And yeah, good it's not every section break 😂😂😂
These long form videos are amazing. Thanks to all your patrons for making these videos possible! I am indebted to those who make it possible for you to do this!
The video that got me to immediately buy a copy of The White Lie, because it was such a devastating flex back in the day and remains incredible. "Oh your writing was original? Let's just put together an entire side-by-side of it with contemporary works and see how that turns out for you..."
As an Ex-Seventh Day Adventist. Thank you for making this video! Crazy that a UA-camr has to break down the history accurately and not distorted lies that I grew up hearing when I used to be involved in the church.
Same! I never realized how crazy some of the stuff they said was until I got older. I still vividly remember hearing about having to "run to the hills" in the end time.
@@dylangount7349 Same I remember hearing that so much as a kid and it still thrives today, I left back in 2018. And I cut contact with some people but some people I know are still saying it's the end times, and that the wars going on are signs. Like c'mon it's 2024. No way in anytime will anything happen in our lifetime.
There’s a 1986 Steven King story that centers around the fictional fact that Waco Texas is the most peaceful spot on earth, and all human violence increases out from there. Man, did that age poorly. When I first read this decades after the Waco massacre, I thought King was just catastrophically unlucky in picking a random small town. Now I wonder if he picked Waco because of the 7th Dayers, who weren’t openly violent at that point. “The end of the whole mess” is the title
Aw. Sad to hear about Atlas and Peabody. We also lost one of our oldest ferrets just last week. They're here for a good time but not a long time, but it's still always rough to say goodbye.
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Could relate too since my cat died earlier this year. When someone dies you can't believe so much that reality doesn't feel real.
a surprise for sure, but a welcome one. Pretty sure a collab between you, adam something and KB on 15 minute cities SDA-born conspiracy theories is a possibility.
I’ve been wondering why you’ve been so inactive this year, and this fully explains it. Phenomenal production, I had to jump around and rewind a bunch of times just to fully appreciate all of the little details in this video. Thanks for being awesome and having integrity!
Having the benefit of being able to watch your videos more or less back to back I can see what you're doing.....and I must say well done sir. Hopefully your message gets through
2:49:43 As a Muslim I seriously encourage you to make the video about it. You will be surprised how contemporary geopolitics, bad border/nationalism projects and Opioids basically shaped what modern Islamism is today.
@@pr0ntabbro the entire iraq and afghani wars were over opioid poppy cultivation and product and oil, how else do you think pfizer got the raw product to make all the oxy they pushed?
@@AN_APPEAL_2_HEAVEN hey now, in my texas history class we did not learn jack shit abt why we fought mexico except that we wanted independance bc…. :) god i love texas education
Gonna give shout outs to the boys Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes of Knowledge Fight as well. If you want to dive deep into the insanity of Alex Jones and his adjacent conspiracy wackjobs there's no two better guys for it.
Got give a shout out to the channel Wendigoon as well. The guy covers a lot of conspiracy myths and various (often far crazier) “true” conspiracies. He’s specifically covered Waco and Ruby Ridge from “devil’s advocate” perspective. He does a good job of humanizing the ATF’s victims while stopping short of sympathizing with them. Real wholesome guy.
@@MathMasterism You think those are devil's advocate perspectives? I don't think he was, considering he practices his Second Amendment rights, but we'll never know, will we? He did a great job villainizing the ATF, as if they needed any help.
9:54 As someone who studies Religious Education and is also a huge Bible nerd, the church-woman-association basically comes from Ephesians 5 : 21-33, in which men are told to "love [their] wives as Christ loves the church" and so on. This caused the image of Christ as "the husband" and the church as "his bride" to get really popular, it never really went down in conservative Christian circles. (I heard that practically every Sunday during my childhood.)
Additionally, we also know that in ancient times Babylon was a shorthand meaning tyranny in general due to the Babylonian captivity. So St. Peter calling Rome Babylon was a clever way to associate the tyranny of the captivity with the persecution of early Christian’s!
"This wacky thing called 'Communion'. Maybe you've heard of it? We do it every once in a while, as much as FOUR TIMES a year!!" Me, a Catholic: "Uh... Huh."
I was raised SDA. It seems like every few years, an official branch of the church “discovers” her plagiarism seemingly for the first time and then it is swept under the rug and they act surprised when the issue pops back up later. I regret ever giving 10% of each pay check to the church…
I am a lifelong Adventist. I will be attending church next Sabbath. I discovered The White Lie a few years ago. Walter Rea was so upset at the GC for the EGW coverup. Adventist need to come to grips with itself. EGW can't be put on a pedestal anymore. The truth should have been made known before 1919.
@lilygirllisa That is a very good question. Many people have to answer it. Many will leave the more this is known for sure. This is the predictable consequence of the leaderships cover-up. I am not a pastor or church employee. As a Christian, I focus on the Bible and accepting Christ into my life. I don't care what the church leadership says or declares. As a firm Protestant, I don't have a go between between me and my Savior. My spiritual life is mine and mine alone. What I'm trying to say is that I don't care about church leadership or their opinions or failures. Like the video said, Adventist are pretty middle of the road Christians who just keep Saturday. I am comfortable with being a Christian and worshipping on Saturday. I can re-evaluate the unique Adventist teachings. I want to look into the Adventist end time ideas again, and I already have different views on that investigative judgment thing. The "plagerist" also copied some interesting stuff, and I can evaluate that material for myself and determine if I agree or not. Again, I knew about this plagiarism thing a while back and have been re-evaluating my position for some time.
@@lilygirllisa Christianity in many of its forms have a built-in decentralized structure within every Denomination, Its a Universalist and missionary faith how it impact a culture and community will always be different. SDA and JWs is very different in other Countries and most disregard their modern prophets and by nature Christianity is extremely personal and have a tendency to separate itself from hierarchical structures in isolation. SDA in the Philippines and Mexico barely talks about White and only follows the core beliefs within its theology
@@americanswan My sister falls into this grey area as well and has called herself Advent-ish before! I fully support you going to church and just deconstructing some of the Adventist doctrines. People sometimes forget that church does provide community and support for some of its members even if you’re not fully aligned with the church’s teachings. Most people, in fact, who have thought about the church doctrines and are familiar with some of the church’s cover ups do have at least one belief that does not align with the 28 fundamental beliefs
Being exposed to this church at 7 gave me a lifelong anxiety disorder. I got baptized out of fear. Took me years to come to terms with my faith and deal through spiritual issues. It was indoctrination, fully. All this because I attended an Adventist school. My family weren’t even involved.
Former Adventist here - while the Church does not set a minimum age for baptism, baptism involved a course of study not usually done until middle school. You being baptized at 7 seems like you had a sketchy pastor.
@@Syndie77-gk4xkactive SD Adventist here, I grew up in an Adventist school with an Adventist family and I was only baptized by 23 after making my mind. Most children that have grown up in the church get baptized in their mid teens in most Churches I've been to. It sounds like OP had a very sketchy school but that's not surprising considering how fractured the church actually is within.
@@Syndie77-gk4xk they don't say they were baptised at 7. They were encountered the church at 7 and then baptised (probably at a later date) "out of fear".
Yeah Childhood Baptism is not an SDA practice. You have to be an Adult and make the decision yourself. Also out of fear of what exactly? When I was baptized it was a beautiful experience. They made me feel like Family. They never Judged me, or made me feel bad. They were very friendly, kind, and caring. A couple of people in the Church were sort of toxic but the vast majority of people who attend my SDA Church are awesome. My Pastor is a big history buff, has long hair and glasses. Him and his wife are wonderful. I guess my point. Don't paint all SDA with the same brush. There are some Good Churches and Bad Churches in the same denomination.
@@LordDirus007 happy you had a good experience. In school they all took us to church daily and basically repeated the discourse that Christ is coming, the rapture will happen at any time and anybody not baptized will not get into heaven, basically. Also I can’t exactly recall at what age I got baptized, but I started school there at 7. Maybe at 9? I was def in middle school when it happened.
Not really related to the video, but I'm so sorry for your loss. Pets in my house are just like any other member of the family and it's never easy to lose them 💔 wishing you the best.
As former fundie-flavoured SDA, I unfortunately must tell you you only got a peak at the junior division - some of the explanations I was given to explain contradictions sometimes existed to explain contradictions created by the explanation for *another* contradiction. Seventh Day Adventists tend to be more into reading the lesser cared about parts of the Bible (exhibit A: the Levitical law against same-sex marriage.) *But* they'll have *some* explanation for why the ban on mixed fabric clothing, sowing two types of seed in one field, or not "rounding off the hair on your temples, or mar the edges of your beard" in the *next chapter* actually doesn't apply anymore. It honestly can get pretty wild. And mentally exhausting. It gets so close to acknowledging many of the contradictory parts of the Bible, just to force you to play the mental gymnastics to be able to believe that the Bible is an divinely inerrant text for another day.
@@immxmax Honestly I'm not surprised. When the Bible literally contradicts itself numerous times (Jesus somehow telling his people to go somewhere in Matthew and in Mark saying to NOT go there) you kinda have to bend yourself in knots to explain it
2:06 I haven’t watched more yet but I wanted to point out that the flue on that water heater looks like it may not have enough rise. It should rise a quarter inch for every horizontal foot. If you notice a lot of dust on the top of the water heater it could be because of poor drafting. I love your content and want to make sure you stay safe and able to keep helping us know better.
KB, i am a mexican who was born in a weird protestant group derived entirely from american protestantism (taking things from every major group) and from the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU. growing up in there was horrible but it's what pushed me towards learning about religion, culture and history. this is probably your best video yet, everything is so well researched and it helped me have a way better understanding about the whole phenomenon (and make me put more books in my reading list). love your work man !this touched me on a very deep level and i thank you so much for that
@@angledgaze6203 they're not not a big group by any means but i will not give names because i'm still well afraid of them. let's just say it was an american protestant grab-bag with traits from many major groups
@@denzellsmall7598 i went into a little more detail before editing the comment but i realized i felt extremely vulnerable sharing some details (trauma response i suppose). i do feel comfortable saying that it's a baptist/dispensationalist group mainly (although in name it's completely non descriptive), with a LOT of borrowing from the jw and sda (the jw's in particular are seen as "aspirational", idk how else to explain it)
You commented about not knowing why women are considered churches in prophecy. I’m not entirely sure if this is why but in Ephesians Paul refers to the church as the bride of Christ. It is probably an extension of this metaphor.
Another factor may be the song of songs. Since it can be very weird to justify why there's an entire book where god doesnt really get mentioned and it's just about 2 people singing about how hot they're for another it often gets interpreted as being a metaphor for christ and the church.
I was raised in a end times SDA family. Best way to describe Adventists is that they're a more mainstream version of JW's in that they sometimes get into the doomsday stuff (depending on the church) but still believe in crosses and celebrating holidays with an emphasis on vegetarianism.
Yeah, I was raised SDA as well and I agree. The mainstream SDA church are like self-aware JWs who are overly concerned with seeming normal and not like a cult so they can fit in with other evangelicals or gain new members. They’re more popular than the JWs so it might be working.
I never knew the Romans for using the number zero a lot. The first century before Christ began on January 1, 100 BC and ended on December 31, 1 BC. This was followed by the first century of our Lord (AD is _Anno Domini_ which means basically what I just said in Latin) between January 1 of the first year and December 31 of the one hundredth. Some guy came up with the whole BC/AD system in the sixth century and we’ve stuck with it since
Fun fact Adventism is very popular in Madagascar. You're really just either a Catholic or an Adventist. Very few Muslims there even though it's very popular on the Mainland opposite and the Comoros.
As you mention later, the parallel between woman and church comes from the analogy of the church being the “bride of Christ.” It’s in Paul’s letters. There are also several wedding parables, and references to God’s chosen people in the Old Testament in the feminine.
Still finishing the video but I wanted to say I feel seen right now. I grew up Adventist and although I have consumed a lot of content around religious deconstruction, I’ve yet to find anyone really get into SDA like this. I really appreciate the time and effort this took.
Having watched many of your videos and enjoyed them, I often think this must be a person of faith then I think well maybe he isn’t. You describe the topics throughly yet with respect. That I can’t tell your personal faith beliefs is a testament to your skill as a researcher and writer. Keep up the good work. 🎉
As a former adventist, with a theology degree from one of their colleges, I have to say that this video opened my eyes to some aspects of the SDA church that I never thought about before. I abandoned the church after 6 years of doubt and fear , but eventually simply could not keep bowing down to the church and its leaders. During the theological seminary I heard and seen some things that only now I realize were absurd and completely unjustifiable. What you said about adventists believing they are THE one and only church of Christ is very much true. Now that I no longer participate in the SDA church, I am slowing creating a new identity that does not rely on such double sided doctrine. Thank you for the great video (as always)!
What a great video! As fairly recent EX-Adventist of many decades, I've never been happier to be EX. The whole "Sanctuary message" never made sense to me, and I almost got fired from Loma Linda Univ Medical Center back in the 80s for getting my ears pierced. I asked one of my older brothers (a church elder) once why the church was so determined to have "Daniel & Revelation" seminars (meetings to recruit new members). Why did the church have to focus on the monsters and weird, scary stuff instead of Jesus and his teachings? He said it was because it was what people wanted to hear. And I think that's why the church membership got more and more focused on conspiracies over the years - because those were the people they were actively recruiting.
Thank you so much for this video, as a proud Seventh Day Adventist this video solidified my faith even more (even though there were multiple errors). Any critique opens the door for more diligent studies on each topic.
When I first saw this (earlier release) I did a double take at the beginning when the tape was labeled Tuesday 9/11 and was all... wait, is it on a Tuesday this year?? A little research later andv the last Tuesday 9/11 was 2018 and the next one will be 2029. I was all: "Wait a minute..." 🤔
Did KB drop a 3 hour long video at midnight that I wanted to watch? Yes. Did I stay up till 3am watching it? No, I'm a responsible adult, I watched it the next day.
@@Glowinghole it was uploaded at midnight my time (Australia). I went to bed, got up, went to work, came home and spent the evening watching this. If you want to get technical, it was all on the same day.
"Everyone knew the Adventists were behind Corn Flakes." That made me literally laugh out loud. But seriously, the Seventh Day Adventists have a lot going for them. I'm not SDA myself, but I have been blessed as a Christian by some of their writings on natural health and the value of creation.
I’m sure Atlas and Peabody are happy to be honored by their hooman in such a well anticipated video. I appreciate them keeping KB sane all these years ❤ Your work will be appreciated by many humans to come, thanks Atlas and Peabody!!
It has been such a joy to watch you find your voice. You are an incredibly creative talent, and I'll be counting down the next 400 days until the next video!
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another group really responsible for the state of things are fundumental baptists and fundie evangelicals. you should definitely do one on the IFB and the NIFB.
one question for you though, why so many Christians in the USA put this big focus on "Jewish" stuff but never ask the actual Jewish people about our own stuff...
I can assure you one thing, a Jewish year never lines up with a gregorian year, Jewish years are either 353-5 or 383-5 days long... we have shorter years but add a month every few years, and the months are set by moon cycles... also the Shabbat is Saturday, Saturday in Hebrew is called Shabbat, it just Jewish calendar was made before the idea of a 24 hours day, so the day switch at sunset, not at six in the evening nor midnight, since hours don't really exist in Jewish calendars. all of this is just scratching the surface.
You released this on 9/11 on purpose
You should invite/mention @AdventistOrgChurch to view and respond to your video. Don't give them the luxury of silence.
Also, Flat Earth had nothing to do with the Bible. The Bible refers to the Earth as a sphere.
October 22nd IS an important dates, they got the year wrong. October 22nd 2010 was the date Fallout: New Vegas came out.
It's also MY birthday. Which makes that game all the more a favorite.:)
Oct 19?
October 23rd 2077 is the true prophecy.
And the wasteland was forever changed~
@@justanotheraccounthere2014 it ws 22nd in the UK
"You knew what you were getting into when you clicked on this video."
Yes. Yes I did.
Yet somehow we still clicked on it
And now you know better
well, I didn't see a little detail.
I was convinced that it was 25 min
It's 10 PM here. I have to work tomorrow ans my alarm clock is set for 6.15 AM. I'm telling myself that I really don't have the time to watch an almost 3 hour video. Yet here I am
It's KB... How could you not?
“JESUS HASNT PUT HIS SHOES ON YET… I sold my house to pay for this trip and now everyone is going to be late to judgment because of YOU”
Jesus does this every time. Not rising until the third day? Bro, I got things to do
@@breawyckerJesus:"Fine, shove it, I'll take someone else on my trip"
Perhaps this is why the Romans did him in. They infamously disliked 'laziness'.
@@lynxk7667 I'm guessing they defined laziness different to the rest of us. Typically, lazy people don't enslave people to labour for them, they just do the labour themselves.
@@Pillboxing How are they supposed to learn the value of hard work otherwise? (sarcasm)
RIP Ellen White, you would’ve loved chatgpt
interesting you donlt say that about everyone whom did the same..
@@SuperDocstar On a video specifically about the person he mentioned???
@@SuperDocstar Don't*, go relearn basic English
@@SuperDocstar SDA member spotted
Imagine your neighbor dressed up like that crawling around in the grass of his backyard, and you get to record everything.
'Hey honey the crazy youtuber guy is army crawling in his yard!'
It was like 90+ degrees on the day I was filming that too.
@@KnowingBetter What is that in Celcius?
@@KnowingBetter Dear God that had to have been 'fun.'
@@ZemanTheMighty over 32
We did it, ladies and gentlemen! We survived through wars and pandemics specifically to watch this.
tru fax
Don't speak too soon, there are too many hotspots and potential hotspot in the world that can spillover and don't forget about mpox too
@@ohiobumass okay paranoid
Humanity has been suffering through the cancer that is religion for thousands of years. We'll get through this too.
That is how i feel! 😂
Alex jones was really looking 37 at 19
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Technically he was 23 in the video but he still looks really old
Lmfao!
37 is a very charitable estimate. I was still getting carded for R-rated movies at 37.
That's cause he's actually Bill Hicks
It’s funny how apocalyptic predictions always happen within the lifespan of most of the believers. It’s never “I predict the world will end in 2253. So ya’ll better tell your grand kids to prepare.”
That’s because there is nothing to spur people into fervor in something that won’t affect them in their lifetime. “Oh the world is gonna go boom in a century. Huh okay.” compared to “Holy shit the world is gonna end in five minutes?!? Fuck fuck fuck I need to prepare.” It’s all about inducing a sense of urgency.
If only i had no conscience and could keep a straight face. Don't give em any ideas.
@@King_Minos64thats.....yep. enjoy your dopamine.
😂😂😂 As one who grew up in an Adventist home, I always tell my parents Jesus isn't coming in my generation so I’m good
yes, yes, very droll
I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your integrity in not posting Speampunk KB's video, despite your verbal agreement. It's his work, and he really should make a channel of his own to post it to. I'm sure in the long run he'll appreciate the shoutout more than you posting something ghostwritten by him
@MurderMostFowl there's a lore Recap video if you want to have a look this storyline's been developing for years at this point throughout all religion videos on the channel
@@MurderMostFowldont be embarrassed we have waited several years for this video and steam punk KB is a time traveller/future kb from alternative timeline that has been hinting toward it for years lol
@@epistulaexmortuus Glad I'm not the only one who has been following for years and just love the multi-level lore that KB has created.
Speampunk
@@Chris_winthers I know! It's like birb. It's technically incorrect, but it's perfect.
I have red-green color vision deficiency. I can DEFINITIVELY state that Teal is in fact, light-grey.
Wait, that wasn't grey...yeah, I'm also colorblind, but really can't say that I had any idea that it wasn't Grey. How could you tell, I thought it was just an inside joke.
Samesies
Teal is light grey turquoise
It is known 🤟
Ha! 😆
1:54 I like the implication that KB doesn't have a bed, he just sleeps on the couch. Truly a man devoted to his work
And he also sleeps with a kb Morgan plush
A man of the people
Or maybe he can't afford a bed
Yet, I just noticed he has a wedding ring on ... and depending on just how long he's been married ... he _Does_ sleep on the couch.
@@shotelco We like sleeping on the couch. It's like camping.
my aunt is SDA and I used to love going to their church as a kid. They come across as nice and somewhat progressive and they never pushed their religion onto me. I used to go to a SDA camp every year, Loved the veggie food and many nature activities . I'm an atheist nowadays but I look back fondly at those experiences,
Samsies
It is not possible, by definition, for anyone to truly be an Atheist.
I also grew up culturally SDA in Australia and when I revisited the church as a young adult (19), they became very hostile anytime something didn’t perfectly line-up with their opinions, they mentioned that Archangel Michael is Jesus, I asked for evidence and they got mad that I questioned it. They stood by that our works meant nothing despite them also stating that we get judged on them in conjunction with our faith.
@@zakh-g4893 Wait a minute I thought only Jehovah's witness only believes Jesus Christ is Michael the Archangel OMG seventh Day Adventist and Jehovah's witness are Connected it make sense now no wonder my friend can relate to my ex Jw beliefs system 😕 😲🙆🏽♀️
@@NanciasReactTv I guess you're not that far into the video yet. But yes. They are splinters of the same movement.
If I had a nickel for every time a new religion formed in America in the 1800s with a venerated prophet-like woman heading it who suffered massive brain trauma in her childhood, I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happed twice
i pass by the birthplace of mary baker eddy every day on my way to work and its always bizarre to see the signs for it
Tbf, less strange than the 1800th century religion started by a woman who claimed to be pregnant with Jesus after sleeping with the holy spirit.
@@musicobsessive123 Both only got their knowledge by some form of alien alchemy or "Divine" science...no explanation at all.
Oh so that's what it is, I was wondering if this was some crossover from previous episodes because I didn't remember Baker's name.
Harriett Tubman also had a head injury and visions. But no new religion.
Tommy Tellerico wrote all of those visions. His mother is very proud.
The first American to work on Sonic, whose sound design was used as a reference to create all of Metroid: Prime around?
@@lucyferos205 Yeah, he was also on an episode of Cribs!
"Miyamoto always loved my work and had always been wanting to work with me" - Ellen G White
I sincerely hope this meme is still going in 30 years
It will be, and it will be a Guinness World record😊
It took one “Day” (1000 years) to get here but it’s totally worth it
huh, wasnt expecting to see ŋə in this comment section, cool :)
agma!?
Nguh way dude
now we just need to wait 8 more years for the director's cut
Look everyone, it's the funny conlang guy!
Making hbomb read the plagarism accusations. This is kino
I thought that was him!
Absolute cinema
1:57:56 for those looking
It blows me away that these people are like, "I have exhaustively studied The Bible, and Jesus will return in this month [insert month and math here]."They studied and made an these connection but overlook the bit where Jesus straight up says, "No one but I know when I'll return, and I'm not going to tell, so pay attention cause I'll take you by surprise." It is about as clear as anything in the Bible gets, and there are a bunch of other illustrations of how Christians are not going to know. All that stuff about the tarrying bridegroom is telling believers to be ready and follow Christ at all times, because no one will know when the return will happen, so all you can do is wait and follow.
Hello, former Adventist here. Yes, Adventists today generally interpret that passage of Matthew 24 to mean what you said. No one will know when Jesus is coming down to the hour, and anyone who claims to know is likely a heretic. Adventists just believe the end times are vaguely soon and that there are some things that will happen that will make the fact that the end times are coming clear to believers, albeit not down to the hour.
Adventists believe that before the Second Coming, the United States will become a theocracy and dominate the world which...just might happen after all.
KB will probably get into investigative judgment and the remnant church and all that. I just started the video.
@Syndie77-gk4xk Yeah I was raised in an evangelical household. My dad has basically been kicked out of the church for not being a devoted follower of the One True God (Donald J. Trump) and for actually advising Christians to pay attention to a Jesus. The idea of "vaguely soon" like you said pretty well holds with modern evangelicals too, but I wasn't making that comment in reference to what groups think now. I was referencing how several groups over time keep trying to do a thing that Jesus told them like 50 times not to do because it can't be done, and if they had studied the Bible as deeply as they claim, they'd obviously understand the futility of their predictions.
It could in theory become one because the whole state has been a collection of quasi spiritual Elites and also a military/secret/special state/ modeled on a similar empire to that of the British which had echos of past Roman/Greek ideas. @@Syndie77-gk4xk
When do you think the Bride groom would come around. This is based on Jewish lore. Why don't you have information to understand the context and background information...so you know the Hour the Groom would come and the tradition behind it!?
@@nomar5spauldingJesus is a vague master. But his way of hunting is speaking so obviously that it's no longer like REALLY hidden. Jewish religious knowledge was based in part on a bunch of cosmic or something related to stars. And their positions. It's part of their culture...
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I find it kinda funny when people say they're biblical literalists and study the bible deeply and ignore the
"'The heaven and the earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
And concerning that day and the hour no one hath known -- not even the messengers of the heavens -- except my Father only;" bit
That's an interesting point! Now these days sda acknowledge the mistake as the date being the start of the account of deeds... Or something. But the og millerinites? Yeah totally ignored that chapter.
Just because nobody knew at the time of Jesus doesn't mean nobody will ever know. Obviously, everyone would know at the time it happens.
@@lucyferos205
Not really, the Biblical texts literally states that it would happen "as the thief that comes in the night", sudden and with zero notice for anyone.
Biblical life hack: Claim that Jesus will return every single day, to prevent the return of Jesus forever.
Mesoretic texts and Judaism explain things in cycles and biblical calendar years. As well as the book of Enoch. And other prophets of old, including certain sects that kept alive records and stories of what actually happen. Let me explain that it's not Just Adventists. It goes beyond normal Protestant sectarianism.. something that is a blend of highly advanced technologies and science fi. To something way more weird.
I heard the description of Tell The World, thought "man, I can't imagine a more boring movie than a 2-and-a-half hour long film about Seventh Day Adventism" and held that thought for 5 seconds before the irony kicked in.
Yes but this one is far more self aware
@@CommieHunter7 Oh it wasn't a criticism. It was just a funny moment. I thought "who'd want to watch a 2.5 hour movie about the origins of Seventh-day Adventism" while watching a 3 hour video essay about the origins of Seventh-day Adventism.
This video is about the various controversies and intricacies of the church, which is far more interesting, whereas the film is a fluff piece that is about as bland as their diet.
I laughed out loud at that
I did, too.
well, to be fair, this isn't a film :p
As an ex Jehovah's witness, it is fascinating to see the origins of my cult. Many of their beliefs are already found in the 19th century Millerite movement.
But that was a different video...
@@lainiwakura1776 I know, I have seen that one too, but the founder of the JWs used to like the teachings of the Millerites, so there are many similarities there
the origin of your cult and this one is the great disappointment, just a few miles down the street from where i sit
@@andrastuba3085 yeah, as an exSDA, I was surprised at the similarities in lifestyle restrictions & control when watching the JW video.
Thats because the "founder" of Jws was a part of Sda but branched out.
One teensy little nitpick, Constantine did not make Christianity the official religion of the Roman empire, that's a common misconception. He legalized the practice, but it wasn't made the state religion until 380 under Theodosius I.
this may be a bit of a stupid question, but Constantine was involved in some way with The Council of Nicea, right? Was Theodosius I also involved? I had always thought that The Council of Nicea and Christianity becoming the state religion co-occurred. (apologies if this is rude!! it's a genuine curiostiy question, Im just not having an easy time wording it)
@@biohazardously Not rude at all, and another common misconception thanks to Dan Brown and the Da Vinci Code. The council of Nicea (ad 325) happened in order to resolve a conflict between the two main branches of christianity at the time, but it did not make christianity the state religion or decide the canon of the bible. Constantine actually continued to allow and sanction pagan worship throughout his entire reign, and one of his successors, Julian (sometimes known as Julian the Apostate) even tried to promote paganism after christianity had become mainstream, but it wasn't until Theodosius that the empire was officially christian.
@@TorvusVae Wow, I can't believe that I ever used to like Da Vinci Code! Dan Brown is a load of rubbish!
@@jeffreygao3956 It's kind of a fun story, but the problem is that way too many people took Dan Brown's bogus historical claims seriously. His entire premise is based on a French hoax from the 1960's. This one French guy, Pierre Plantard, wanted to fabricate for himself a claim to the French monarchy, so he made up this secret society. Then some American authors interviewed him and connected one too many dots and claimed he was descended from Jesus, which Plantard himself was like whoaaa now, that's blasphemy. I encourage anyone who wants to know more to google the book Holy Blood Holy Grail
@@biohazardously the guy above already answered all your questions well.
I would just like to add that it is a (likely completely false) legend that Saint Nicholas, aka Santa Claus (sorta), clocked or slapped an Arian priest (the other major Christian Sect) in the council of Nicea.
Also, Theodosious I wasn't involved as the council had concluded 22 years before he was born.
Alex Jonestown was a literal teenager and already looked and sounded like he was in his 50s.
Alex Jonestown is the cursest name
He aged pretty well then !
@@eldonad
Shouldn’t it be that he already aged poorly?
@@warlordofbritanniaI mean, to be petty (which does seem to be on topic), you usually describe the evolution of children as growing rather than aging. Generally when people evaluate the "aging" of a person they compare them to their early adulthood, and in that regard Jones has evolved remarkably little, hence he has aged well. Feel free to invoke holy scriptures such as a dictionary though, maybe I have a wrong idea of the definition of the word...
@@warlordofbritanniaand further counterpoint, maybe he never looked better than this to begin with
Knowing Better is now officially the Weird Protestant Churches Pokédex
😂😂😂😂
Knowing Better has defeated the Elite Four!
But who is the Champion that waits in the shadows for his challenge...?
Unfortunately they’re not weird, they’re normal
@@AndyMcKeeFanForLifeDepending on who you ask, probably either Evangelicalism or Catholicism
@@JerdifierBased on KB's past videos, it would be Evangelists. He's mentioned them before, has drawn relevance to how they affect modern American politics, and has more relevant history in the US
To do a video on Catholicism would have essentially nothing to do with the US, and the founders wouldn't be as relatable as Americans in the 1700s and 1800s.
I was born into the SDA church and went through the SDA education system up to the university level. But I learned more about the church in this video then living that experience, which is kind of crazy. Great video!
You are not alone. I have learnt more deconstructing from Adventism than I did in it. I'm in a constant state of deja vu "Oh, yeh, that's what they meant.
@@singingandy For sure!
Hi! Same here, I’m actually surprised more adventists don’t research what they believe in. I was also shocked to learn so much they never covered in church and classes. I sent this video to my brother (currently getting his theology masters at Andrew’s) and I am looking forward to hearing his point of view.
your parents didn't do a good job of explainuing you what the church was founded on.
@SuperDocstar sure, I guess that's a fairly obvious observation. At the same time when they themselves only know what their parents and the church told them it's hard to blame them over the church.
IT IS HERE FOR THE COMMONERS! HUZZAH!
Congrats KB on what is literally the culmination of years of work… and internal lore to boot.
Get yer popcorn lads! We in for a ride!
@@singletona082how do you get away with eating popcorn at work?
@@swayback7375 I'm a full time caregiver for special needs siblings. Amongst the MANY downsides of working with and for family due to being unable to drive? that is a sortof upside. Yay?
My grandfather died yesterday and he was a life long Seventh Day Adventist. I wasn't close to him so I was not expecting this video to help me deal with his loss. Mostly because he'd be mad I'm watching this this.
it okay
Sending you positive vibes friend
@@eacalvert thank you
I'm so sorry that you lost your grandfather. I am a somewhat rebel SDA. I find this video educational and respectful. We need to be able to recognize both the truths AND the errors. I hope this video may give you some insight to your grandfather and his heritage. I'm learning to eat the meat and spit out the bones.
@@slohne thank you
I just reached the end of the video. My condolences on the passing of Atlas and Peabody. May they forever live as the multiplayer robots from Portal 2.
Wait... it's not a joke because he used a bomb to blow up the guard ferrets to escape with the VHS tape in the beginning?
I was looking for this comment. It's sad to know that they passed away. I loved looking at them playing around during KB streams
@@weerwolfproductions I have no idea about the lifespans of ferrets so both are plausible? :S
@@gratuitouslurking8610if i recall correctly 7 years is a long life for a ferret, especially considering many get taken out by digestive tract issues
Peabody? He’s not from Ohio is he? Old school emo?
People were bored as FUCK in the past.
That, and ridden with psychosis 😭
The world got so much better once there was more than one book to read.
They just believed stupid things , actually not much changed since then
It's the same or probably worse now. The biggest difference is it's just plastered all over the media instead being confined to local areas
@ it’s the same but it’s getting worse, so so much worse 😭😭😭
Hey, weird, "the first dissapointment" is what my parents call me
At least you're not as bad as "the great disappointment" that came after you 😘
@@benjaminf8526 that was good! lol
@@benjaminf8526 The great dissapointment was just him upon reaching adulthood.
😂
"Inspired by the unpublished work of Steampunk KB ... That ought to cover it, right?" This is even funnier knowing that this becomes a video about plagiarism. 😂
Ah my favorite citation technique: "it is known"
The religious version of “trust me bro”
Pretty common phrase in academic writing actually, at least in my field (theoretical physics). Of course it actually has to be, y'know, known...
@@garth4712 Interesting; I guess it's used when citing common knowledge
@@coda-n6u it comes up a lot in maths too, you don't go around citing every single proof that eg 1+1, there's plenty of accepted axioms.
But that has led to a couple of cases in physics or chemistry where one claim from one paper is cited-directly enough times that it "becomes known", even though it's not actually been replicated. Those are kind of rare though.
But of course they're also by definition unknown-unknowns until they are uncovered, so... there's potentially more out there. (But that's just a small subset of the much larger "crisis of replicability" that is currently ongoing in all scientific research, which is a whole other topic.)
@@kaitlyn__L It’s interesting! Mostly a trade off between the effort of citation and how much it impedes reading by a well educated reader, versus how helpful it actually is.
I got to tell you. Nothing is more disappointing than when a favorite creator covers a topic where one has personal expertise and blows it. It shatters trust in all of their other content.
Well as a life long, and now ex-, mormon I have to say that the KB vid on the mormons is an absolute masterpiece... factually, contextually and tonally it is utterly flawless in its depiction of mormonism. 10 out of 10. Absolutely no notes.
So im juiced for this latest installment.
🍿🍿🍿
Edit: just for clarity I was out of the church for a few years before I saw the KB mormons video. But it was noteworthy that from the outside KB was both so accurate and so even handed. Seeing him operate with this level of depth and fair mindedness has boosted my confidence in all the other KB content. Cheers.
You had me in the first half, ngl
I had the same experience when he covered the JWs. He nailed it! I was already on my way out of the religion but that definitely helped solidify my thoughts.
@@gjhartist3685 Glad to hear it.. I was out of the mormons before hand, but seeing him "get it right" as an outsider has made all his other content that much better.
I feel the same way about his JWs video! Third generation raised EX jw and it was chefs kiss!
Went to an SDA k-12 school, and am currently in an SDA university. Not fun, 0 out of 10 stars do not recommend it (the anxiety disorder I have from it would also not recommend it). My entire family is Adventist, and I was raised that way. I love them dearly, and am grateful for some of the people I've met in the Adventist community.... but it's brain-numbing. I'm currently required to take a certain number of religion credit hours to graduate, and because it's a tiny little Christian university, transferring may mean I graduate years later than just sticking it out. I can confirm this video's accuracy. While there are some fun little quirks not mentioned in this video, it's such a relief to watch a video so honest and factual. I feel a little trapped and alone in my situation, but I find sanity in videos like this. Thank you for this 3-hour video, it was a lovely distraction from the current "Christian Beliefs" homework I'm putting off. Thank you, you have no idea how much I needed this :).
I attended an SDA college many years ago, and it wasn't horrible-but mostly because I'd been in academy, and there was more freedom, such as it was, at the college. The worst class I remember being required to take was "A Christian and His Music" and it was as awful as it sounds. The Desire of Ages was the text for our Life and Teachings of Jesus course. I wish you the best, and hope your time there speeds by. I am no longer sda, but most of my friends and family are. There is a life beyond, and it is good.
You had to take classes in college you didn't want to take in order to graduate?
@sharonguerra7440 thank you for this ❤
@austinbaccus there's a certain number of religion courses that have no relivancy to my degree, but are required. Like generals you have to take at every university, except some of mine are just studying Ellen White 😅
@@ameliaeno3266 I see.
That's dumb. I had a similar experience in computer science. Right before I graduated, I counted all the classes that actually had you writing code, and it was something like 40% of the total courses.
I feel for ya. Irrelevant classes are a waste of time and money.
Fun fact: In German, teal is blaugrün literally meaning bluegreen. Guess we solved that debate quite easily
Cyan (light blue) is halfway between dark blue (indigo) and green, and teal is dark cyan. _So yes._
But then why isn’t it grünblau huh?????22?2?2?!2
Beat me to it @@williamhutton1752😂
"what do you mean the color for water can mean blue or green"
"...have you seen water? It is either blue or green."
Using green loosely obvs lol
Edit:not referencing bluegreen, I think the color was Glas but that could be another one entirely. Too lazy to look it up rn.
Turquoise enters the chat
The nod to Hbomberguy exposé meta, wonderful. Excited to watch to the end!
I find it funny that this video about the SDA is longer than the movie made by the SDA about the SDA.
Examples of Ellen White’s plagiarism can be found on my channel. I use original 19th century books in my comparisons.
@TesttheProphet helped to fact check this video in its final stages. Big thanks!
@@KnowingBetter
Respectfully, you both don’t understand how prophetic inspiration works for you to call what Ellen white did plagiarism or deception.
@@Tomf-tz4pd she copied text from other people and publications - that's literally what they tell you not to do in college when you're writing a paper. either you quote it directly or paraphrase it but either way you need to include your sources. college must be really strict on prophets since you can get expelled for having 'prophetic inspiration' lol
@@Tomf-tz4pd Explain it
@@Tomf-tz4pdIt wasn’t just prophecies, though. She plagiarized parts of her personal journal.
The subtle reference to the Hbomb Plagiarism video is *chefs kiss*
Subtle until Hbomb starts talking
And the even more subtle JJ McCullough canon reference near the end (w/ Mario SFX).
Would you mind explaining?
KB said the thing! And that wallpaper is hilariously on point. 🤘🏾💗
@sytonicflux Hbombs plagiarism video came out after KB’s last video, so the little comment about using other people’s work, and the ‘Based on the unpublished work, sign in the intro are referencing that Drama.
Hbomb has been doing long ass videos for a few years mow. The dues Ex video was over 3 hours long
The G in Ellen G. White stands for “Games Somerton”
My favorite comment so far
Ellen White was such an avid plagiarist that James Somerton sued her for copyright infringement.
97 minutes in, title sequence
I think this has to be a record for longest stealth intro ever LOLOLOL
This is one gag I hope never dies...when we make contact with aliens I fully expect peace talks to go half way then "we have been monitoring your communications...and this has been a green screen all along and this is a video about plagiarism. Nak Nak Nak. Pew pew"
oof! so glad i didn't watch this
@@intellectually_lazythe prior 97 minutes are basically explaining the SDA, their origins, etc 😭 it’s not like he was dragging it out and repeating the same info. the video in its entirety is extremely interesting. the intro is only for the plagiarism and takedown segment
@@schedar_cassiopeia nothing to do with the intro. i hate the new format knowing better switched to a couple years back, and btw, if you wanna know more about 7th day adventists, there's the book, white lies
@@schedar_cassiopeia i don't like the character acting spiel. i don't like him expousing these views fully in character. i don't like that he's not clear this is parody. maybe i'm underestimating my fellow humans, but i don't like it because i think he will convert some people. he should know better!
I’m really sorry for your losses. Atlas and Peabody were lovely additions to your videos and excellent representatives for all small mammals. It was clear how loved they were ❤
I second this! Seeing their cameos always made me smile. 🩵
3 ads played throughout this video. Compare to most 20 minute videos, which have an ad every 5 minutes. Same number of ads, 9x the runtime. I respect this.
Thank you. And thank you to all patrons and supporters who make this possible.
IIRC anything over 20 minutes and many large creators get to choose how many and where the ad breaks go So the ~20 min videos is UA-cam controlled and injected ads, KB's is likely intentional. And yeah, good it's not every section break 😂😂😂
@@Darticus42 I unfortunately got the "every section break" ad bombardment...
These long form videos are amazing. Thanks to all your patrons for making these videos possible! I am indebted to those who make it possible for you to do this!
The video that got me to immediately buy a copy of The White Lie, because it was such a devastating flex back in the day and remains incredible. "Oh your writing was original? Let's just put together an entire side-by-side of it with contemporary works and see how that turns out for you..."
I love how KB refers to the book as an "Hbomberguy-level" plagiarism analysis 😂
As an Ex-Seventh Day Adventist. Thank you for making this video! Crazy that a UA-camr has to break down the history accurately and not distorted lies that I grew up hearing when I used to be involved in the church.
Same! I never realized how crazy some of the stuff they said was until I got older. I still vividly remember hearing about having to "run to the hills" in the end time.
@@dylangount7349 Same I remember hearing that so much as a kid and it still thrives today, I left back in 2018. And I cut contact with some people but some people I know are still saying it's the end times, and that the wars going on are signs. Like c'mon it's 2024. No way in anytime will anything happen in our lifetime.
ah, miller..... the man who spawned many cults.
@@dylangount7349 Yeah exactly, but when you live in Australia there aren't really hills that you can run to.
you have been deceived and are a a deceiver 🤦♂
Oh boy… my first girlfriend was a Seventh Day Adventist and I have been unknowingly waiting on this video ever since
There’s a 1986 Steven King story that centers around the fictional fact that Waco Texas is the most peaceful spot on earth, and all human violence increases out from there.
Man, did that age poorly. When I first read this decades after the Waco massacre, I thought King was just catastrophically unlucky in picking a random small town.
Now I wonder if he picked Waco because of the 7th Dayers, who weren’t openly violent at that point.
“The end of the whole mess” is the title
Aw. Sad to hear about Atlas and Peabody. We also lost one of our oldest ferrets just last week. They're here for a good time but not a long time, but it's still always rough to say goodbye.
Could relate too since my cat died earlier this year. When someone dies you can't believe so much that reality doesn't feel real.
I enjoyed this video, as always, but I particularly enjoyed the hbomberguy wallpaper.
How unexpected to see you here sir
a surprise for sure, but a welcome one. Pretty sure a collab between you, adam something and KB on 15 minute cities SDA-born conspiracy theories is a possibility.
@@valerkand9270 they are both on Nebula and so I assume there’s some sort of chat group for Nebula creators.
Video hasn't even been up a whole day and Ellen G. White already deleted her UA-cam channel
Quite a feat for a woman who died in 1915.
Woke up from her soul sleep just to delete her account
Poor Auntie Ellen lmaooooo
I’ve been wondering why you’ve been so inactive this year, and this fully explains it. Phenomenal production, I had to jump around and rewind a bunch of times just to fully appreciate all of the little details in this video. Thanks for being awesome and having integrity!
"I dont know how many of you noticed this but the same person delivers your mail every day"
*cries in former usps driver*
Nope. They get vacations.
@@roofdogblues7400do they, actually?
@@TheAechBomb Yes. They have pretty good benefits, and get 13 - 26 days of annual leave depending on how long they have worked.
Thank you for your service
@@roofdogblues7400that is still kind of pitiful. In the UK you get 28 minimum for a standard full time job
Hbomberguy being a guest voice in this is amazing.
Also OMG
RIP Atlas and Peabody!!!
Youre the only content creator that i will willingly sit down and watch a 2hr+ video
... how about willingly join the Patreon? 🥺
Seventh day Adventist: The church of Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V
Cut and paste. I like it
"It is known" hits the same as "This is the way"
And also, "And so it came to pass", in mormonism.
It's also a Game of Thrones reference
Do u know de wey?
I love that he uploaded this to match the time of the beginning of the skit 😊
As long as one person noticed, it was worth it. 💙
@@KnowingBetter Tysm I love when people do that 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
13:30 "Miller came up with this prediction in 1818, but sat on it for fear of it being so cringe"
Having the benefit of being able to watch your videos more or less back to back I can see what you're doing.....and I must say well done sir. Hopefully your message gets through
Big props to the voice actors. They capture that historic journal/letter vibe perfectly.
2:49:43 As a Muslim I seriously encourage you to make the video about it. You will be surprised how contemporary geopolitics, bad border/nationalism projects and Opioids basically shaped what modern Islamism is today.
Wait that artifact was about Islam?
@@janlaan9602 No. September 2001. Ring any bells?
Opioids?!?! Man that's crazy now I need to know more...
@@pr0ntabbro the entire iraq and afghani wars were over opioid poppy cultivation and product and oil, how else do you think pfizer got the raw product to make all the oxy they pushed?
@@pr0ntabmultiple soldiers have reports of guarding and shipping poppy fields, from the early 90s to the late 2010s
Fun fact: David Koresh and Davy Crockett both shared a birthday, August 17th, and both died via a siege in central Texas
And both were losers
remember the alamo 😞😞
@@IneptRat the Alamo was fought for slavery. Texas is the only state to have fought for slavery twice.
@@AN_APPEAL_2_HEAVENThe battle at the Alamo was one of several used to gain Independence from Mexico.
@@AN_APPEAL_2_HEAVEN hey now, in my texas history class we did not learn jack shit abt why we fought mexico except that we wanted independance bc…. :) god i love texas education
love the video my guy, you have helped me process so much religious trauma as I grew up as a gay mormon
Between Dan Olson, Knowing Better, and Sarcasmitron, we are getting a truly comprehensive theory of American Conspiracism
Gonna give shout outs to the boys Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes of Knowledge Fight as well. If you want to dive deep into the insanity of Alex Jones and his adjacent conspiracy wackjobs there's no two better guys for it.
Is there a video or channel for them?
@@TheGibbie they've got a channel for mostly offtopic stuff but mostly audio format on Spotify or any podcast platform
Got give a shout out to the channel Wendigoon as well. The guy covers a lot of conspiracy myths and various (often far crazier) “true” conspiracies.
He’s specifically covered Waco and Ruby Ridge from “devil’s advocate” perspective. He does a good job of humanizing the ATF’s victims while stopping short of sympathizing with them.
Real wholesome guy.
@@MathMasterism You think those are devil's advocate perspectives? I don't think he was, considering he practices his Second Amendment rights, but we'll never know, will we? He did a great job villainizing the ATF, as if they needed any help.
9:54 As someone who studies Religious Education and is also a huge Bible nerd, the church-woman-association basically comes from Ephesians 5 : 21-33, in which men are told to "love [their] wives as Christ loves the church" and so on. This caused the image of Christ as "the husband" and the church as "his bride" to get really popular, it never really went down in conservative Christian circles. (I heard that practically every Sunday during my childhood.)
Hey I do too. Did you know that St. Peter would often lie about being in Babylon when he was in Rome to avoid persecution?
Additionally, we also know that in ancient times Babylon was a shorthand meaning tyranny in general due to the Babylonian captivity. So St. Peter calling Rome Babylon was a clever way to associate the tyranny of the captivity with the persecution of early Christian’s!
"This wacky thing called 'Communion'. Maybe you've heard of it? We do it every once in a while, as much as FOUR TIMES a year!!"
Me, a Catholic: "Uh... Huh."
Thank you for making this. It’s clear you put a ton of effort into these videos and it’s always worth it in the end. Keep it up!
I was raised SDA. It seems like every few years, an official branch of the church “discovers” her plagiarism seemingly for the first time and then it is swept under the rug and they act surprised when the issue pops back up later. I regret ever giving 10% of each pay check to the church…
I am a lifelong Adventist. I will be attending church next Sabbath.
I discovered The White Lie a few years ago. Walter Rea was so upset at the GC for the EGW coverup.
Adventist need to come to grips with itself. EGW can't be put on a pedestal anymore. The truth should have been made known before 1919.
@@americanswan what's the point of following the religion if the main lady is a liar
@lilygirllisa
That is a very good question. Many people have to answer it. Many will leave the more this is known for sure. This is the predictable consequence of the leaderships cover-up. I am not a pastor or church employee.
As a Christian, I focus on the Bible and accepting Christ into my life. I don't care what the church leadership says or declares. As a firm Protestant, I don't have a go between between me and my Savior. My spiritual life is mine and mine alone. What I'm trying to say is that I don't care about church leadership or their opinions or failures. Like the video said, Adventist are pretty middle of the road Christians who just keep Saturday. I am comfortable with being a Christian and worshipping on Saturday. I can re-evaluate the unique Adventist teachings. I want to look into the Adventist end time ideas again, and I already have different views on that investigative judgment thing. The "plagerist" also copied some interesting stuff, and I can evaluate that material for myself and determine if I agree or not.
Again, I knew about this plagiarism thing a while back and have been re-evaluating my position for some time.
@@lilygirllisa Christianity in many of its forms have a built-in decentralized structure within every Denomination, Its a Universalist and missionary faith how it impact a culture and community will always be different. SDA and JWs is very different in other Countries and most disregard their modern prophets and by nature Christianity is extremely personal and have a tendency to separate itself from hierarchical structures in isolation.
SDA in the Philippines and Mexico barely talks about White and only follows the core beliefs within its theology
@@americanswan My sister falls into this grey area as well and has called herself Advent-ish before! I fully support you going to church and just deconstructing some of the Adventist doctrines. People sometimes forget that church does provide community and support for some of its members even if you’re not fully aligned with the church’s teachings. Most people, in fact, who have thought about the church doctrines and are familiar with some of the church’s cover ups do have at least one belief that does not align with the 28 fundamental beliefs
i literally walked past a 7DA church this morning and thought "i wonder when KB will finally make that video"
Being exposed to this church at 7 gave me a lifelong anxiety disorder. I got baptized out of fear. Took me years to come to terms with my faith and deal through spiritual issues. It was indoctrination, fully. All this because I attended an Adventist school. My family weren’t even involved.
Former Adventist here - while the Church does not set a minimum age for baptism, baptism involved a course of study not usually done until middle school. You being baptized at 7 seems like you had a sketchy pastor.
@@Syndie77-gk4xkactive SD Adventist here, I grew up in an Adventist school with an Adventist family and I was only baptized by 23 after making my mind.
Most children that have grown up in the church get baptized in their mid teens in most Churches I've been to.
It sounds like OP had a very sketchy school but that's not surprising considering how fractured the church actually is within.
@@Syndie77-gk4xk they don't say they were baptised at 7. They were encountered the church at 7 and then baptised (probably at a later date) "out of fear".
Yeah Childhood Baptism is not an SDA practice. You have to be an Adult and make the decision yourself. Also out of fear of what exactly? When I was baptized it was a beautiful experience. They made me feel like Family. They never Judged me, or made me feel bad. They were very friendly, kind, and caring. A couple of people in the Church were sort of toxic but the vast majority of people who attend my SDA Church are awesome. My Pastor is a big history buff, has long hair and glasses. Him and his wife are wonderful. I guess my point. Don't paint all SDA with the same brush. There are some Good Churches and Bad Churches in the same denomination.
@@LordDirus007 happy you had a good experience. In school they all took us to church daily and basically repeated the discourse that Christ is coming, the rapture will happen at any time and anybody not baptized will not get into heaven, basically. Also I can’t exactly recall at what age I got baptized, but I started school there at 7. Maybe at 9? I was def in middle school when it happened.
Not really related to the video, but I'm so sorry for your loss. Pets in my house are just like any other member of the family and it's never easy to lose them 💔 wishing you the best.
What I just witnessed was a documentary about Olympic-level performances in mental gymnastics :D
As former fundie-flavoured SDA, I unfortunately must tell you you only got a peak at the junior division - some of the explanations I was given to explain contradictions sometimes existed to explain contradictions created by the explanation for *another* contradiction. Seventh Day Adventists tend to be more into reading the lesser cared about parts of the Bible (exhibit A: the Levitical law against same-sex marriage.) *But* they'll have *some* explanation for why the ban on mixed fabric clothing, sowing two types of seed in one field, or not "rounding off the hair on your temples, or mar the edges of your beard" in the *next chapter* actually doesn't apply anymore. It honestly can get pretty wild. And mentally exhausting. It gets so close to acknowledging many of the contradictory parts of the Bible, just to force you to play the mental gymnastics to be able to believe that the Bible is an divinely inerrant text for another day.
@@immxmax Honestly I'm not surprised. When the Bible literally contradicts itself numerous times (Jesus somehow telling his people to go somewhere in Matthew and in Mark saying to NOT go there) you kinda have to bend yourself in knots to explain it
2:06 I haven’t watched more yet but I wanted to point out that the flue on that water heater looks like it may not have enough rise. It should rise a quarter inch for every horizontal foot. If you notice a lot of dust on the top of the water heater it could be because of poor drafting.
I love your content and want to make sure you stay safe and able to keep helping us know better.
KB, i am a mexican who was born in a weird protestant group derived entirely from american protestantism (taking things from every major group) and from the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU. growing up in there was horrible but it's what pushed me towards learning about religion, culture and history. this is probably your best video yet, everything is so well researched and it helped me have a way better understanding about the whole phenomenon (and make me put more books in my reading list). love your work man !this touched me on a very deep level and i thank you so much for that
What group is it?
@@angledgaze6203 they're not not a big group by any means but i will not give names because i'm still well afraid of them. let's just say it was an american protestant grab-bag with traits from many major groups
@@cabwaylingo_well if you gave a name it would help other people and your description basically fits all american christian denominarions
@@denzellsmall7598 i went into a little more detail before editing the comment but i realized i felt extremely vulnerable sharing some details (trauma response i suppose). i do feel comfortable saying that it's a baptist/dispensationalist group mainly (although in name it's completely non descriptive), with a LOT of borrowing from the jw and sda (the jw's in particular are seen as "aspirational", idk how else to explain it)
Only downside to watching KB religion videos and now all my UA-cam ads are trying to save my soul
I started getting "friendly atheist"
What did we do different?!
@@dosmastrify A/B testing
You commented about not knowing why women are considered churches in prophecy. I’m not entirely sure if this is why but in Ephesians Paul refers to the church as the bride of Christ. It is probably an extension of this metaphor.
I hear it a lot as a Catholic myself, and he brings up the metaphor later in the video.
A woman being a symbol for gods chosen people has been a thing since the old testament prophets.
Another factor may be the song of songs. Since it can be very weird to justify why there's an entire book where god doesnt really get mentioned and it's just about 2 people singing about how hot they're for another it often gets interpreted as being a metaphor for christ and the church.
I was raised in a end times SDA family. Best way to describe Adventists is that they're a more mainstream version of JW's in that they sometimes get into the doomsday stuff (depending on the church) but still believe in crosses and celebrating holidays with an emphasis on vegetarianism.
They still keep saying the end is so close here, I still go to church but its because my family wants me to
Yeah, I was raised SDA as well and I agree. The mainstream SDA church are like self-aware JWs who are overly concerned with seeming normal and not like a cult so they can fit in with other evangelicals or gain new members. They’re more popular than the JWs so it might be working.
I am a man of 23, have been interested in history all my life, and I just learned the "year 0" does not exist
I never knew the Romans for using the number zero a lot.
The first century before Christ began on January 1, 100 BC and ended on December 31, 1 BC.
This was followed by the first century of our Lord (AD is _Anno Domini_ which means basically what I just said in Latin) between January 1 of the first year and December 31 of the one hundredth.
Some guy came up with the whole BC/AD system in the sixth century and we’ve stuck with it since
@@DiamondKingStudios
Even BCE and CE are just a cosmetic change
@@warlordofbritannia Which is why I don’t even bother using them and just stay with BC and AD
You would have loved the Khmer Rouge.
It is known.
Fun fact Adventism is very popular in Madagascar. You're really just either a Catholic or an Adventist. Very few Muslims there even though it's very popular on the Mainland opposite and the Comoros.
As you mention later, the parallel between woman and church comes from the analogy of the church being the “bride of Christ.” It’s in Paul’s letters. There are also several wedding parables, and references to God’s chosen people in the Old Testament in the feminine.
The visuals are so good on this one! Good work KB 🎉
Still finishing the video but I wanted to say I feel seen right now. I grew up Adventist and although I have consumed a lot of content around religious deconstruction, I’ve yet to find anyone really get into SDA like this.
I really appreciate the time and effort this took.
Having watched many of your videos and enjoyed them, I often think this must be a person of faith then I think well maybe he isn’t. You describe the topics throughly yet with respect. That I can’t tell your personal faith beliefs is a testament to your skill as a researcher and writer. Keep up the good work. 🎉
It is 6:40 AM and i’m about to sink the next three hours into a knowing better video. Life is good
Your 6:40 brain is much different from my brain at 6:40
KB, the only UA-camr where 9 months is an acceptable gap between videos, because the content is just that good.
It's the hbomberguy model
And Joseph Anderson. But there aren't many of them.
Also captain disillusioned and CPG grey
Kind of how AccursedFarms is
Clearly you aren't a viewer of Ahoy
Awesome video as always. I'm sorry for your loss with your floofy family.
As a former adventist, with a theology degree from one of their colleges, I have to say that this video opened my eyes to some aspects of the SDA church that I never thought about before.
I abandoned the church after 6 years of doubt and fear , but eventually simply could not keep bowing down to the church and its leaders. During the theological seminary I heard and seen some things that only now I realize were absurd and completely unjustifiable.
What you said about adventists believing they are THE one and only church of Christ is very much true.
Now that I no longer participate in the SDA church, I am slowing creating a new identity that does not rely on such double sided doctrine.
Thank you for the great video (as always)!
What a great video! As fairly recent EX-Adventist of many decades, I've never been happier to be EX. The whole "Sanctuary message" never made sense to me, and I almost got fired from Loma Linda Univ Medical Center back in the 80s for getting my ears pierced. I asked one of my older brothers (a church elder) once why the church was so determined to have "Daniel & Revelation" seminars (meetings to recruit new members). Why did the church have to focus on the monsters and weird, scary stuff instead of Jesus and his teachings? He said it was because it was what people wanted to hear. And I think that's why the church membership got more and more focused on conspiracies over the years - because those were the people they were actively recruiting.
Hebrews 9
"Wow, this whole Waco thing keeps coming up. I wonder what happened there!"
-Me, a zoomer who'd managed to miss hearing about it my whole life
Wendigoon has sn.excellent video on it.
@wendigoon made a (by my knowledge) pretty good breakdown of it.
@@adamantiiispencespence4012looking for this recommendation
I wish knowing better could’ve delved into David koresh a bit more
have you heard of this wendigoon person?
Wendigoon
2:50 The 9 month wait for a video was so KB could avoid a callout video from HBomberguy for stealing from himself. Amazing
Thank you so much for this video, as a proud Seventh Day Adventist this video solidified my faith even more (even though there were multiple errors). Any critique opens the door for more diligent studies on each topic.
You were so much calmer and subdued in this video. Im really enjoying this new style
that ending... and the date the video dropped....
When I first saw this (earlier release) I did a double take at the beginning when the tape was labeled Tuesday 9/11 and was all... wait, is it on a Tuesday this year?? A little research later andv the last Tuesday 9/11 was 2018 and the next one will be 2029.
I was all: "Wait a minute..." 🤔
Did KB drop a 3 hour long video at midnight that I wanted to watch? Yes.
Did I stay up till 3am watching it? No, I'm a responsible adult, I watched it the next day.
So... the next day *after* it was posted right? 'cuz midnight can mean the end of a day, or the start of a day, depending on how it's being used...
@@Glowinghole my exact expectation for the punchline
@@Glowinghole it was uploaded at midnight my time (Australia). I went to bed, got up, went to work, came home and spent the evening watching this. If you want to get technical, it was all on the same day.
I feel like thats most of us now lol. We found kb in high school and now we have jobs.
"Everyone knew the Adventists were behind Corn Flakes." That made me literally laugh out loud. But seriously, the Seventh Day Adventists have a lot going for them. I'm not SDA myself, but I have been blessed as a Christian by some of their writings on natural health and the value of creation.
I’m sure Atlas and Peabody are happy to be honored by their hooman in such a well anticipated video. I appreciate them keeping KB sane all these years ❤ Your work will be appreciated by many humans to come, thanks Atlas and Peabody!!
You and ReligionforBreakfast publishing magnum, bible-related essays now is making my week
It has been such a joy to watch you find your voice. You are an incredibly creative talent, and I'll be counting down the next 400 days until the next video!