Diesel Truck Vs Gasser- Which is a better choice?
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Which is better - Gas or Diesel in a truck? This is not a pulling contest this is about making the right choice in a truck for your company. No B.S. or bia's- just pro's and cons of Gas & diesel in a pick up truck that needs to work to make a living. Go to DieselSellerz if you want to see wicked, outrageous trucks- stay here if you need to decide what work truck is your next choice. We discuss ford diesel-7.3 liter, 6.1 liter and 6.4 liter engines, and my favorite- cummins diesel.
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7.3 or 12v Cummins , had an OBS 7.3 , paid $2800 for a raggyass work truck in 11/2011 clean it up drove until 8/2016 and sold it for $6000 , buyer was super happy , I dumped over $3K into it , but it never left me stranded and I only lost $200 over 5 years , got a newer 7.3 paid more than I wanted too , but it was a one owner garage kept truck , and so far it suits my needs , the old truck towed better (5speed 4x4 dually) but the new truck has better creature comforts
I have a 2001 F-350 with the 7.3 and I have got to agree. This engine is bulletproof, in -30 degree weather up here in South Dakota it starts no problem. As long as you do regular maintenance like oil changes, filter changes and such, it will run forever.
for gas motors I have an older 2000 GMC with the 6.0 litre gas engine. That is hands down the best gas motor I have ever ran. It will out pull the old 454 motors with better fuel economy. I usually pull 6,000-8,000 pound trailer with a full load in the bed of the truck regularly with no problem. The most I pulled was about 14,000 pounds. The truck didnt lime it but it did it fine.
That's a heavy load👍😳
patugejv I know your gas mileage is not very good lol
I bought a 1996 F250 with the 7.3 diesel about 6 months ago. I love the gas mileage I get with it, even pulling my trailer. Its got the power I need and the maintenance is not as expensive as the newer ones from what I'm understanding
What the hell is a 6.1 diesel. That is not an engine Ford makes
lmao i know right. maybe he means the crappy 6.4
Stinky Potatoes no kidding it's a 6.0
Stinky Potatoes Did you think he knew about ford when he started praising the cummins? I didn't think so
I agree
Yes they do make it, it's the 385 engine. It's 370 cu in which is 6.06321 Liters, so you would round it out to 6.1.
Once again I totally agree Stan I've owned several diesel trucks and talked to countless certified diesel mechanics , Cummins engines are phenomenal and Ford's 7.3L are bulletproof. I own a 2007 Dodge 2500 Mega Cab 5.9L Cummins with over 240,000 miles on the original injectors and transmission and it runs like new. Great videos keep up the amazing work!
Thanks John!
first off i would like to say i have a degree in automotive analysis and repair and have many certifications in the automotive field. gas vs diesel. to me it is like picking the right tool for the job a diesel needs to be ran for long periods of time with out turning the engine off multiple times a day. for pushing snow in a diesel you will loose traction bc the torque in my opinion it would be a waste of money if a diesel is bought to use for short multiple trips a day and to push snow. the fuel economy of a diesel is great under the correct conditions. repairs are expensive as well. a gasoline engine is cheaper to maintain. fuel economy will be nearly the same as a diesel "around town" pushing snow you will break traction as well. but you will wear out steering and suspension components sooner pushing snow. gasoline engines are more forgiving with multiple short trips. there are many positives to both and negatives as well. my favorite diesel in a pick up is the 5.9 cummins. my favorite gasoline engine is the 6.4 hemi. but I will say the old 350's are the EASIEST engine to work on
I have a duramax, 408k on it and runs like a champ. 23mpg empty, 18 pulling my 26 foot camper. And it will haul ass if I ask it too. Love it
Hello Stanley. I want to give you my impression. I'm a ASE Master diesel technician. Worked on so many kinds of diesel and gas truck engine and in general. For the 3/4 ton range. Want ease of maintenance and get you back on the road for diesel. hands down Cummins. Even with the new gen 6.7L with all that B.S. aftertreatment system. the power strokes, I agree with you 7.3 is one of the best, stout, manufacturer engine. the 6.0L EGR fail and cost so much to get it replace. I recommend customer to delete it so don't have to worry about. 6.4L Ford was smart to put the EGR cooler up front and it easy to access it. The valve train and pistons are junk though. Don't get me started on the 6.7L powerstroke I have 3 page list of things that don't last long. parts fail. #1 is turbo. they are pieces of crap. Duramax are good engine as well. really don't have much issue with those except injector issue. Mostly gets stuck.but overall a good engine. Gas on the other hand. They don't last long as a diesel engine. But I have seen and worked on quite of few gas working trucks and the owner of those trucks are always on top of the maintenance side of them. Know what needs to be done. And those trucks are keep running strong. I drive a 2002 ford f350 7.3L. did tons of work on it to make it mine. Like upgrade the interior. put the new ford superduty dash and seats with working cool and heated seats. did an front clip upgrade to match the 11- present body style. added good performance package on the truck. If you see it, you probably couldn't tell if the year model was a 2002. because it looks like a 11-16 year model. but the powertrain gives it away.
Wow. Great info😄👍
Don Olypopper The main issue on the 6.7L now is that they can't breathe. What I mean breathe? its all the dpf, egr, and scr where the soot cannot escape, but gets clogged on the exhaust filter. When people ask me about the 6.7L I tell em that if you want to get one, get but you have 2 options. 1)don't delete the system yet until the warranty expires. 2) flush the warranty down the drain, and get it dealerproof.
With these new trucks these day and the EPA, or the gov't putting so much regulation and restriction on diesel drivers and not to mention the manufacturers, that these trucks won't last couple hundred thousand miles. I still have my 02 f350 7.3L its just rolled over 450K miles. I know I was talking trash about the 6.0L powerstroke. the reason why is that in 03 to 04 those years thats when egr coolers and oil coolers would fail, and fail big time. later in 05-07, Navistar finally got it right and they are good. But for safe and secure feeling I still delete my egr cooler so that the coolant wouldn't be going into the exhaust system, but rather go back into the engine where it suppose to do its job.
I hope this helps out.
Don Olypopper very true. The thing is with ford is that the 6.7 is the first ford engine that ford design and made. Previous powerstroke was made by navistar, and they also produce the international fleet motors. Ford should had known that when creating and making diesel motors that it needs to be strong. Thats why you see more cummins out on the road. many cummins 12 valve and 24 valve don't use long arm rockers arm like the powerstroke have. plus they are thin to so high possibility of bending or have total catastrophic failure. I love cummins but hate the dodge cab design. I've been searching like crazy to maybe one day might do a total cummins conversion. but many vids and other post after everything is all said and done, it all goes back in programming the ecm so that you won't be having CEL on. Here in Texas an probably other states that if the CEL is on, it will not pass.
Don Olypopper Ya one of my good friends just got themselves a 16 powerstroke. I told them they better keep up with the maintenance on it. if you slack of any kind, it will hurt your pocket book.
you guys are tripping unless you delete the emissions you will have problems on any diesel no matter the brand they dont belong there and are literally destroying the engine progressively its a epa obama scam, once emissions are deleted the ford 6.7 is by far the best by a huge margin and are completely bulletproof the only thing they did wrong was use ceramic ballbearings which cant handle the power they updated that in 2015 they make more power than any of the other 3 which is a huge deciding factor for me we deleted it and have had 70k trouble free miles in 4 years we got in an accident where a police officer ran a stop sign and we tboned him dead on at 50mph completely totaled his car knocked him unconcious and sent him to the hospital we had a dented bumper we sat in the truck with the a.c. running in 97 degree miami summer heat for 3 hours while a investigation was done and then drove away with no problems these are the best trucks on the road without a doubt and the 6.7 is the most reliable and powerful by far. you just can have emissions on them or any other diesel engine period they are not supposed to be there.!
One of my friends from college is a diesel mechanic and we travel the east coast buying up the 6 leakers. We bullet proof them and after that they are truly amazing trucks. I love my 06 350 it's a beast and never given me an issue since I bp'd it
Nice way of making extra money. Clever.
Good advise. I am a diesel nut job, but, this is good, practical advise. I would also suggest diesel if you are pulling heavy, both for fuel economy, and so it's not burning out a gas motor. I have had a couple of 7.3's, loved them. Would love to have several generations of the Duramax, and I do like the Cummings. But, the shipping crate for the Cummins (the truck itself) leave a whole lot to be desired. If you still have 6.0 Fords check out Bill Hewitt's channel, "powerstrokehelp", guy knows his stuff and can bulletproof a 6.0.
Thanks for the advice and direction!
I just bought my newest truck a 1995 f250 but it has very low miles and has the 7.5l which that thing is an absolute beast I've towed more than my max on the truck and it felt smooth as butter
Cool!
7.3 is only good because it isnt even made by ford😂 made by international harvestor
True! It is made by IH
Cole Everett one problem ford had with the 6.0 is they used 7.3 parts when they needed to use more heavy duty parts 7.3 FOR LIFE!!
that or the 5.9 cummins
ThatFordGuy69 true I do admit that I like the older Cummins trucks
1st off there is no 6.1 PS diesel. 2nd the 6.0 and 6.4 were both international. 3rd the 6.0 and 7.3 share no parts .
you are so right about those engines! all i had is cummins. 2001, 2004, 2006, 2011, 2014 and now 2016 limited. never had a problem with single one of them. first one i bought in 2001 and until now all i did is maintenance ,no repairs.
I have a few Cummins. No problems at all either.
Sold 08 f-250 diesel. Bought 12 f-250 6.2 gasser. Couldn't justify 11k premium for diesel. Oil changes more$$. Air filters more $$. When you trade them in with 220,000 Plus miles the 11k diesel premium disappeared even if the body is flawless and you have service records. Nowadays gas motors last 200k plus. Why pay more all along the way. If u tow 20,000 lbs regularly then buy diesel. If tow occasionally 400 hp 400 ft/lb is plenty. $$💰💰💰💰💰💰💰
Wise decision, the 6.2's are strong engines and much more cost effective then the 6.7's
I definitely agree with you. If you dont haul equipment, material, resources, or anything else that is heavy. A gas engine truck should be enough. Such good advice
I personally like the 5.4 3v tritons. I use a 2005 f250 xlt superduty for my lawn care business and it currently has a little over 205000 miles. The only problem I ever had out of it was head coolant temperature sensor
Sounds like your getting some good miles out of it.
If you're buying the truck to make money with it gas is the only way to go. Everything about a diesel is more expensive. The initial cost, the fuel itself , the maintenance (new diesels don't forget about the exhaust fluid ) and the labor rate to have the truck fixed. The couple of advantages to running a diesel don't out weigh these costs . Don't get me wrong, I love diesel engines and Internationals 7.3 (turbo and non turbo) engine is in my humble opinion is one of the best ever made. Right next to the Cummins 12 and 24 valve. However, the numbers don't lie. I know the diesels have more torque and get slightly better milage while pulling a heavy load but the gas engine will do the exact same job for a lower cost.
If there was a fast engine in the f450 or Ramsey 3500 or chevy or gmc 3500 they would never be able tow what they can tow. They get better miles to the gallon and if properly maintain will go for 1million+ miles. Gas motors are way cheap to maintain though.
Great points Scott.
Very true!
i have a M 11 cumming in my RV toter.. love it.. 860k on it! its been rebuilt 90k ago.. i pull a 44 foot rv..
+The Deprey's Holy crap- that is awesome!
Diesel only if you absolutely need it these days. Otherwise you're better off with a gas truck!!! All the 2007 emissions compliant diesel are a total gamble with reliability. And with how expensive they are, definitely not something you want to buy just to drive to/from work with. The only way to make them as reliable as the old ones is to delete the emissions equipment which 1. is illegal (for those who care) and 2. can be very expensive due to the necessary tuning required. $40,000+ trucks and you need to spend an additional $1,000 at LEAST just to get the reliability that diesels once had? Total junk. If you want a diesel to put around in, older is the only way to go. 7.3, 12 valve, VP and common rail 24v, LB7/LLY/LBZ. Any other diesel engine is really just going to be a gamble with your money as far as how "reliable" it will be and even if you do do the deletes, there's some guy out there with a cheap ass old diesel (like myself) that spent a fraction for the truck and none on making it reliable... I have a 2000 Dodge 2500 5.9 Cummins and a 1985 M1009 Blazer 6.2 Detroit. Aside from the Dodge being a 24v and not a 12v, I essentially have some of the simplest diesels money can buy and I didn't have to delete anything to get good fuel economy or make sure my truck didn't have reduced power or throw codes. Y'all have fun with your new junk! Old diesel or a newer gas truck, can't go wrong.
Marcus Mar i have a 1997 f250 lariat edition. its got the triton 5.4 lt v8 and its gas. the damn thibg has 244,600 miles on it and it just keeps running amazing
So glad it isn't illegal in my state. only thing you NEED is a catalytic converter but no one would ever know because there aren't emissions.
+Sundown audio my had a dodge 1500 with 437,000 when we sold it
Marcus Mar Got a 2012 pete 389 longnose ext hood. Had the emissions deleted, and my truck runs so damn good. Fuck the EPA. Their damn bullshit does harm not good
Joshua Stevens best thing you can do to an emissions compliant is to make it NOT emissions compliant. Sadly. The emissions equipment absolutely kills reliability and fuel economy, your truck is better off with out that junk!
2002 Triton V10 F250 4x4
I have towed 5ton with it no problem. I also have towed a T300 Bobcat with no problems. It does what I want it to do. It is my daily driver and work truck.
you can thank the EPA for less reliable diesels. you gotta modify them for them to be good
or buy a old one. my 12valve doesn't miss a beat.
True!
@@Bearclaw_Jake yeah buddy. Don't forget the killer dowel pin fix.
What a best diesel truck for me and what year. It’s going to be my forever truck I want good mpg not really going to tow but a four wheel camper
@@migueltorresmrgold5050 shoot, depends on what you want and how much you want to spend...
older engines are better, cheaper cost to operate, more reliable ect but will have less power.
Hi. I own both a gas truck and diesel truck . The gas truck is used to do our maintenance route only . The diesel truck which is a 2005 GMC 3500 dump truck , its used for our heavy duty jobs . I think this is a perfect combination, for us at least. Everything on a diesel truck is ALOT more expensive than a gas truck. Usually its about 2 to 3 times more expensive. I hope this info helps someone.
I have a similar combination.
it is a 6 liter powerstroke not 6.1. this is the best engine if it is well maintained and has a total gauge package for monitoring egts especially
I would call it the best diesel. I wouldn't even call it the best diesel ford engine. The 7.3, 6.6, and 5.9 are the three best diesels ever made.
+Dodge 318 Cummins wouldn't*
+john d The 6.0 was made with emissions control and diesel's aren't meant to be restricted... That's why it has the trouble people complain about and the 6.4 was made to throw away so international could get out of contract with for and emissions control was on that to...... Any new diesels will suck because of emissions control weather it be cummins, duramax, or powerstroke.
+I'm A Blue Collar Son no the 6.0 was not made with emissions crap it came out in 2003 way before emissions started.
+john d The 6.0 is a horrible engine.
Chevy 6.2 in a 1982 ex military K30 truck.
it's an off road truck that doubles as my apocalypse mobile. so right now I can use it like a jeep and if I need to I can take years worth of supplies with me almost anywhere.
as for the engine. for my use it's perfect. it's easy to work on, rock solid and provides plenty of low RPM torque. meaning I can use it to pull logs out of my way or unstuck another vehicle in the convoy. while also being more resistant to fire then a gasoline vehicle and can run on cooking and heating oil giving more fuel options.
oh and the 22 mpg means I can go further when fuel is scarce. it's kinda an added bonus.
SilverStar Heggisist make a vid on your truck. do u have a cb radio?
Cole Everett no I don't have one, no one really around here I want to talk to who doesn't have a cellphone.
I have somewhere buried on my profile a few dozen pictures of my truck during the engine rebuild. I stripped it to bear block and rebuilt it including painting it red (the factory color for the first year 6.2)
Right now it's parked because after rebuilding the engine it ate the trans. But once I've money for that I will have the 700R4 trans rebuilt and upgraded by a trans shop near me. While I can do engines I don't know what I'm doing with transmissions so I'll have someone who does do the work.
Right now I'm driving my daily driver, a '03 Dodge 3500 crew cab with a 24 valve 5.9. Great on road, tons of power. But not something I'd take into the woods. Too much softness in the body, too long and doesn't have posi rear.
Holy crap! 22 MPG? they don't make them like that anymore.
Stanley "Dirt Monkey" Genadek the 6.2 was built for fuel economy. And people who have it in K5s have reported even higher MPGs
A few of the features my engine from 82 came with standard that are upgrades on most other engines include, a roller cam, hydraulic self adjusting lifters and aluminum pistons.
Before I rebuilt the engine it got between 15-18 MPG (15 on my 1700 mile one way trip to Texas with 1500 pounds of stuff in the bed driving full throttle all the way)
Even with driving on as little as a quart or less of oil several times (it leaked like a screen door) when I rebuilt it, the cam had virtually zero wear, the timing chain had the same play as the bran new replacement. The only thing to really take a beating was the piston rings. Several were broken.
Bought a 2016 regular cab GMC 2500 with a 6.0 gas. It tows my aluminum 20 ft enclosed trailer with two exmark 60s just fine it does about 11 mpg as an average. These engines are known to regularly go over 300000 miles also you should replace your exhaust manifold bolts every two years especially if you work it hard because they are known to break. Otherwise the 6.0 gas is bullet proof.I also have an 08 GMC 3500 crew cab dually with 280000 on it and it is a great engine I have replaced my glow plugs and nothing else. It handles heavy trailers with ease.The front end is all original and tight. Me personally my next 3/4 ton truck will be a duramax diesel I just didn't want to swing the bigger payment on my first new truck. If you keep the truck clean you benefit with a high resale value for a longer period of time. I can't say it enough, paint everything under the truck before it sees it's first winter and do it every year whether you see rust or not and it will always be worth top dollar.
Ethan Williams chevorlet are mostly rock solid in my opinion had 2004 z71 5.3 lasted 280,000 miles then it needed and oilpump then we got to 340,000 and I put a water pump on it sold it to a buddy of mine for 4,000$ 2 years ago he used it for the same purpose I did to travel truck now has 480,000 miles and hasn't skipped a beat oil changed every 5,000 miles with penzoil 10w30
I had 97 K 1500 regular cab short bed that has 215000 that I plowed with the last few years and it runs great. I did the typical fuel pump and brake lines but other than that I never had any issues and that truck pushed snow better than most three quarter ton trucks. I also have a 2008 duramax dually with 280000 on it that I just had the chassis sandblasted and Marine epoxy coated and in the spring the body work is getting done. If that truck was a gas job I wouldn't be putting that much money into it but around here in CT a rust free diesel truck commands a high price regardless of mileage so I know that I can run the truck 5 years have 320000 miles on it and come out ahead.
Daniel Hines
300,000 is the norm for 5.3. Most people i know with these trucks are at the range right now still going. Mine has a 147,000 on it so plenty of life yet
5.4 Tritons are also bulletproof engines as long as you maintain it properly I love this engine tows insane loads easily for a gas engine these things do better at towing than a 5.3 there more of a rival to the 6.0 but I have experience with 5.4 5.3 6.0 4.3 and in my opinion GM's really like to piss everywhere it's like a common thing that gm engines leak easier than fords
my 2000 7.3 f250 was bullet proof and sold that, bought 2 2005 6.0 diesels and had problems with both from day one. then had a 2010 6.7 cummins and was an amazing truck but weak tranny now i have a 2015 6.7 powerstroke ,a 2008 6.8 v10 gas f450 and and a 2011 f250 6.2 gas and these three has been the best ones so far. Ford has gained my trust back
its 6.0 not 6.1
This video is now 4 years old and I commenting in regards to current 2020-21 trucks. I have had several Ram gassers ( 5.7 ) and currently have a 04 F250 with the V10 and a 2020 F250 with the gas 7.3. Both are personal work trucks that work hard. The 2020 is my snow plow truck and it does a great job and the 04 V10 tows my 16 foot 7 ton dump trailer and is my tree work/brush truck - it has 183k km’s on it ( I’m in Canada ) and other then a battery, brakes and tires I haven’t had to fix anything on that old truck. It’s also my back up plow truck. I think if you spec your truck properly you can do just as much work - cheaper - with a gasser then a diesel truck. The diesel fuel is more expensive then gasoline, the maintenance is MUCH more expensive, the initial purchase price is at least 10k more then the gasser and with regular maintenance I think the modern V8 engines are putting out the same ( if not more ) torque and horsepower then Diesel engines of 10-15 years ago. Like you said, comes down to what you need that truck for. If it’s a dedicated tow rig, diesel might be better, but if your hauling work crews around, working off road, snow plowing, not traveling long distance then the gassers are probably a better investment. They are lighter, cheaper, fuel is more readily available in remote locations or small towns, the maintenance will be cheaper and usually quicker. The gassers won’t see the same fuel mileage but they start every time in the winter without needing to be plugged in, they don’t need long warm up or cool down times, they don’t have a ton of emissions equipment to fail and don’t require any additives to keep the fuel from gelling in really cold temperatures. Up here in Canada gas trucks are much more common for snow plowing then diesel trucks ( in pickup truck weight class ). Also one thing to keep in mind is that gas engine is a lot lighter then the diesel engine allowing you to carry more weight in the box or on the front with a heavier plow.
trying to sound smart but your calling a 6.0 a 6.1
AmazonBoxie ....ummm go look at the cubic inches??? Sorry but engineers round up but who would you wanna trust? Keyboard warrior or some one with experience
Nah, amazon is right. Its a 6.0. It says it right on the fender.
adam courtney lmao that's it right there "they say it on the fender" must mean it's true?? Not saying it's a huge difference but look at the ci or the cc they produce some are over and under not exact like the badge. I've worked on many motors and im not a mechanic but I know this is true
Sorg616 weell again look it up... 5954cc ?? Any way... not 6000cc
I am not debating that engines don't have a deviation from their advertised engine size but i am debating the fact that it is not called by name, or by dimension a 6.1L. A little under or a little over it still is a 6.0 to the nearest whole number as well as manufactured documentation.
I have a 2001 Ram 2500 with the 24V 5.9 cummins and other than the VP44 injection pump, I absolutely love it. I like being out mowing/towing all day and having that effortless power to move the 14 foot trailer around. Yes a gasoline engine could do the job, but it wouldn't be as comfortable, plus I figured it was worth the extra expense towing 5 days a week. The only con is expensive repairs
True- repairs can get costly. But the power s great on those.
ill stick with my 7.3s my grandpas nephew has a 7.3 with 850,000 miles and still running stong my grandpa has the same truck accept his only has 186,000 miles and ours is a show hauler i do like the Cummins a hell of a lot better than a duramax a duramax will never haul as good as a 7.3 or a Cummins and all we use our trucks for is hauling and we hauled a four door ford f9000 and our skid steer going 75-80 miles per hour
+Kyle Gibson Good engines!
+Kyle Gibson It's except, not accept in the context you use. Anyway, I have had three 7.3 diesels, and they were good but for one that had a turbo that was spraying a fine oil mist through the engine compartment. I now have a Duramax in my 09 Chevy Silverado LTZ; great performance and would pull your trailer off its foundation I'll bet.
I have 3 Silverado 2500hd with the 8.1 gas. I love this truck for my business because I have the convenience of a gas truck and power and torque of a diesel, These trucks also have the Allison trans. One truck has just about 200,000 miles it carries my sander and I have plowed snow with it for over 6 years. Never have touched the trans. Just spin a new filter onto it once a year.. The bad the 8.1 is a pig. It gets about 10 MPG empty and 8 MPG pulling a skid. The 8.1 also uses or pushes oil all 3 use about 1.5 qt. of oil every 3,000 miles. I hear they all do that.
6.0L*
Nah 6.1 LOL
haha!
Im looking at a 97 7.3 powerstroke. In good shape decent price. Everyone around me who has had a 7.3 has had an awesome experience with them.
I can't believe people haven't mentioned the famous ford 4.9l i6.
asdf
asdf I have two of them I'm here to say I tried to blow it for 3 years one I just got my licance now I run it normal I haul with weakly 32 foot trailer not a fast truck but a hell of one
asdf that's one of the best motors ford ever made
You mean the "best 6-cylinder ever made" if you ignore every GM 6-banger ever made, AMC/Jeep 4.0-liters and most 6-poppers ever made by companies that weren't Ford Motor Company? That "4.9 I-6". Yeah. It's great that by the early to mid 1960s Ford was able to make a "good" 6-cylinder. Hooray. Impressive as hell. Of course a lot of them were built with shitty fiber timing gears that liked to spontaneously disintegrate, their torque and horsepower output per unit of displacement was pretty piss-poor compared to a Chevy 292 or any of the other dozen or so Chevy/GM 6-cylinders made before Ford finally figured it out. And Ford was as "thrifty" with them as other supposedly "superior" and "bulletproof" powertrain components like the vaunted 9-inch rear axle since both were really only used in Ford's lightest-duty trucks and passenger cars. So there's no heavy-duty use to judge them by to really determine just how "heavy duty" and "bulletproof" they really are. Especially since it took Clifford Performance and Currie Enterprises to create at least 75% of the "performance reputation" they have, which isn't really that large outside of some narrow niche "markets" and "communities".
And most of the praise they get, again like the 9-inch, has come from magazine article authors and editors and "automotive enthusiasts" who tend to "farm out" all their real mechanicking to professionals who tend to be much less impressed by 300 6-bangers and 9-inch rear axles than the "enthusiasts" who love everything about them except working on them. And they both have in common that by the time Ford "invented" them several other companies had already done all the hard work, had installed them in many vehicles and in most cases had both 300ish cubic-inch six-cylinders and drop-out center section (commonly called removable carriers and pretty much standard in medium-duty and heavy-duty trucks for the biggest part of a century just like inline OHV six-cylinder engines were common as dirt for decades before Ford made one) rear axles in a lot heavier-duty vehicles than Ford ever did. I've got a '72 Chevy C20 3/4-ton 2wd "heavy duty" pickup (HD coil springs front and rear) that from the factory had a 250-cubic-inch inline 6-cylinder, a TH350 trans and an Eaton HO52 rear axle (coil-spring axles are HO52s and leaf-spring axles are HO72s) with a DROP-OUT CENTER SECTION and 4.56 gears.
As far as I know, Ford never put a 9-inch in any pickup "heavier" than a 1/2-ton and put Dana front and rear axles (even Twin Traction Beam "IFS" axles are an oddball Dana 44) in its "heavy-duty" pickups. I've HEARD OF a Ford "Hi-Boy" that supposedly had a "factory" 6-cylinder in it but when my uncle bought it there was a 390 under the hood just like his other '76 F-250 FWD "hi-boy" had.
But yeah, I'm sure when your engine choices in a Ford light-duty pickup or car was a gas-hog Y-block 292 or 352 or a "4.9-liter" (its a 300-six if you're not a noob "auto enthusiast" who thinks "metricizing" every American engine makes you sound more sophisticated and intelligent) inline 6-cylinder that might have gotten 20 mph on a really good day instead of 8-12, that 300 six was a real winner. Of course there are also tons of "300 six-cylinders" out there that are actually 230-cubic-inch Ford inline 6s or even 200-cube six-bangers Ford "gurus" call 300s because that's the only Ford 6 they "known", but that's beside the point.
This guy really should go out and get some sun! Always so negative, I really feel for him. Seems to have some sort of god complex. I guess in his little world everything he owns is the very best ever made! Everything else is junk! Hell I even bet his daddy owns this playground!
I bought 6.0 in a beautiful truck and got it cheap.
Took it to a Bulletproof Diesel authorized shop and had them address the trouble points.
It's been fantastic for not alot of money.
If you can get the truck cheap enough it'll be worth it.
the 6.0 is a good engine if you do some work to it
Toofless Mack like spend 5 grand to bulletproof it! 7.3 or 6.7 is the way to go
this is true but if ya run er low enough shouldn't have to many issues i think we would all be good if we just threw cat diesels in pickups still have yet to see that day
Toofless Mack I'd love that!
***** I'm trying to find a cat diesel for my 79 f350 dump
Toofless Mack that would be sweet, I've found a few motors but to expensive to justify
I don't know if this is even relevant, but I had two Chevrolet trucks- a 96 gasoline base model half ton. 4.3L motor which ran beautifully and never lacked power to haul. Got rid of it due to RUST.
97 Silverado 3/4 diesel 6.5L motor. Smooth running, very reliable, good fuel econ [21/gal with 1400lbs in the bed]
Both were mostly trouble free. Basic wear and tear items like brakes, tires and some bushings were all I ever dealt with. Extremely satisfied by both.
Current truck is a used 2008 Cummins 3500. At150K, turbo issues, scheduled maintenance, and chasing down a short in the headlamp switch = $2900.00 in one visit to the dealer.
If I could go back to the older trucks, I'd do it. My choice would be the diesel - All the power I could need, and HD major components never suffered much wear and tear since my needs never pushed it's limits.
The 6.0L diesel from Ford... if you buy replacement parts from Bulletproofdiesel.com you can make it an awesome engine. The coolers are the weak point on that truck. I got tired of dropping thousands at the dealer to finally go aftermarket and am highly pleased now.
that goes for the 6.4 6.7..goto powerstrokehelp.com you can get all the information you need, ,,,me 550 7.3l 6 speed goes for ever on a tank
Good to know.
I know this is old, I also had my 6.0 done by Bulletproof.
Best thing ever. Love the 6.0 now.
Running a 74 W300 Dodge power wagon dually dump with a completely stock 89 cummins. Drivetrain is all original dodge stuff, Dana 70 front and rear axles(4.88 geared), Hercules HDT 7.50x16 studded old school mud/snow tires (tried all the new stuff and although some have better traction the sidewalls don't hold up to curbs on highways)divorced NP205 and TSR racing 727 transmission, 9foot fisher and 7.6 foot wing plow(only used when doing DOT work) 3 yard sander and all is central hydraulically controlled. Great truck and combo but was originally set up for private roads, bridges and some highway use so doing driveways sucks unless they are large. Now if only I could figure out how to get private roads and make use of the wing and use the downpressure option the front and wing plow can apply. Guess that is why I found your video's. Keep up the great work and thank you for saving us the mistakes. Been plowing since 1978 and still can't quote a driveway to make money cause I like plowing too much. I have issues. Lol.
6.1?? Do you mean the 6.0 powerstroke?
Yes- sorry my bad.
TNOutdoors why do people keep mentioning he said six one you know he meant sick so leave it alone
Something to remember when making upfront costs/investments. Your miles don't stop after you sell your first truck. If you buy another truck to replace the first one that initial or extra diesel cost carries forward into the next diesel. I like to think about it as "How long will I own a truck?" Once I'm in the diesel market and stay in the market the initial cost pays off over many trucks. The only "diesel payment" you will make is the first one. Typically you can run more miles on a diesel than a gasoline.
Good way of looking at it!
6.1? i thought it was called 6.0 or six ohhh lol
hahahah Yes! 😂
The 6.0HellNo. 😂
I’ve got a 2000 Silverado 1500 Z71 Gasoline and she’s running great and the only problem with it is the AC.
with all the salt we have here, gas all the way, bodys gone in 7 to 10 years
So true!
Romppai's Outdoors yes newer trucks rust up faster than the older ones
I went over this decision intensely for my busines. Ram's 6.4L gas v8 is a great engine. It also gets the same mileage as a diesel. It is an incredible truck with plenty of power, sturdy frame, and consistent performance.
I have a friend in the industry with a Ford. I have the Ram 3500 and he has the F350. We have done city and highway comparisons. The diesel ford barely edges out the gas Ram in towing. I also get the same mileage without having to worry about additives, and the higher maintanance costs.
I have 2004 Ford F250 with the 6.0 liter diesel now has 93,000 on it.
Problems are electrical sensors, a new turbo at 87819 miles.
The transmission is acting up once in a while, from a start going up a steep hill will not move forward, have to play with the transmission to get it to go forward, next time no problem.
Next pickup will be gas, I do not put many miles on them, and the diesel repair bills piss me off.
I have a 2002 ford f 250 7.3 power stroke , love the truck , it's like the energizer bunny , just keeps going and going 👍🏻
I've driven both power stroke and duramax for work. 2012 6.7 powerstroke with 800lb-ft of torque is my favorite by far
I have an 05 Chevy and an 06, both have a Duramax diesel and both get great fuel mileage with plenty of power. I bought both for a steal of a price and have had little to no issues. I have 312,000 miles on the 05 and it runs like a top, i drive that truck to look at jobs and we haul trailers with it everyday as well. My 06 has 125,000 and I have done nothing but oil changes and break work to this truck. I agree, if looking for a diesel truck, do your research and make sure you know what you are getting. I take my mechanic with me when looking at anything like this.
Thank you
Your lucky to have a mechanic that will go with you.
What mileage do you get towing? 8-12 seems average with gas
in my opinion I prefer diesels I've worked with ford my entire life I've owned everything from a f150 to a f550 I've had the idi 7.3 which I still have to this day great truck runs great I have a 7.3 powerstoke f450 with a service body on it great truck with a plow works everyday toes a backhoe no problem I've had the power stroke 6.0 motor, 6.4 power stroke and I also drive now a 2014 6.7 which I would put right next to the 7.3 in durability so far I have also 2 gas trucks with the 5.8 l from Ford but I'm a contractor with heavy applications and the diesels are the only way that serve the best for me in my application
I have a 2011 super duty 250 xl it has the 6.7L power stroke we farm so it pulls 10k pound headers(farm equipment) across several state lines we have also pulled 20k pounds of cattle with it like a dream the only thing it's had done other than filters is put a turbo on it at 130k miles
My current truck is a 2003 GMC 2500HD with the 8.1l gas engine. The reason I bought it was because it was much less expensive than a comparable diesel, yet it has the same towing capacity. It would take a very long time to make up the price difference in fuel economy. As far as pros, it was inexpensive, it's a very smooth powerful engine, and it has the Allison transmission. Cons, on a good day it gets 12mpg, it uses oil like most big blocks, and I'm sure I won't get much on resale. Otherwise it's a good, dependable truck.
Yes- the length of time in fuel savings can hardly justify the extra cost of the engine. Good point!
My dad has a 2001 ford f250 gas truck with 303,000 miles on it, and its been and still is as solid as it was from the day it was new. PS. Hey Stanley Im 14 and you have inspired my to start my own landscaping company and right now Im in the proses of looking for a skid steer to help start my business. I've been around machinery all my life and really enjoy your videos so thanks. also a shout out would be really cool. Thanks Stanley.
That is awesome😄
I have a friend with a 5.9 Cummins with 580,000 miles on it and still running rock solid.
Holy crap- thats amazing!
Honestly, a lot of it boils down to proper maintenance. Change the oil and transmission fluid on a proper schedule and the machine will run forever. My dad bought a new Ford farm truck in 1980 with the crappy 400 engine. He traded it 20 years later with 250,000 miles on it with the original engine and transmission still in it. He was VERY religious about keeping the fluids changed.
Interesting, thanks for the info. Good stuff to know!
at 90,xxx miles I had to delete my 6.7 powerstroke or pay out the a$$ for a new egr core, and the dpf. I had clogging in the EGR and my DPF was failing. as a private driver in NJ I dont get state inspected with a diesel in the weight class of 8k-11k lbs. I did a egr delete and a 5" straight pipe with no muffler. I will be going to a 4" though as I think im having a lot of a back pressure issues but that could be because I bought a cheap aluminized 5" full exhaust and the flange to the downpipe is not a perfect fit. But I gained 5mpg with the delete and you can tell it runs so much better. It doesnt go nearly as high in the RPMS to do the same job as a stock truck. I have it tuned to the lowest smoke and power increase tune as well. No way around not tuning the ecu as it would go into limp mode without the emissions being present and working. Now for a commercially licensed truck it would need to be inspected and NJ DOT can and will pull you off the road for an inspection if they new it was deleted which is easy to distinguish as per the new roar of the exhaust. about a $10k fine here for no emissions on first offensive if its a commercial vehicle. The newer 6.7's as mine was the first gen in 2011 are probably a bit better at longevity of the emissions but I cant speak on that. However I have never had a single problem with my truck mechanically that wasn't do to the emissions BS. Ive always said the best truck would be a ford body, cummins 12v, and a allison trans.
I own both Ford and Dodge Diesels. The Fords are a very high maintaince motor but if you do the maintece they seem to work well. It doesn't matter if its a 6.0, 6.4, or 6.7. just do the maintaince. The 6.7 seems more forgiving. The cummings are about bullit proof as long as you maintaine them, can't go wrong. Keep up on ear cleaning, DPF cleaning, and replace or clean sensors as needed. The 6.4 Ford will need a oil change every 2500 miles if not deleted. The Dodge 2007-2012 will need oil changed every 5000 miles. Diesel will dilute the oil though regen and cause problems.
A friend of mine just lost his ford diesel-right after warranty expired. $15,000 gone
I'm partial to the diesels myself. 7.3 powerstrokes and cummins 6bt's are the workhorses in my opinion. I've owned and used the 6.0 gm gas and 8.1 gm gas and was not impressed with either. The 8.1 is horrible on fuel and so was the 6.0. I also believe that maintenance is key for any of them. I can plow almost 12 hours with the gassers and twice that long with a 6.6 Duramax or 7.3 Powerstrokes. In the end it will depend on who's behind the wheel and how it's taken care of
agreed. like you read my mind
Very true. Good point👍
+ace yabishh yes
Chevy 2500 with the 6.0 gas. I've had absolutely 0 issues with the engine in the year I've had it. It gets driven upwards of 600 miles a week. It has less than 80k miles on it. The only issues i have is with stuff around the engine. Whether it be interior or for example the washer fluid line breaking, everything else is solid. I know of a guy who brought a 2004 or 2005 chevy 6.0 gas 2500 in to a dealer with over 800k miles. Absolutely crazy.
800k? Amazing.
I've had a 6.0 power stroke for over a year now with 182k on her and I got it bulletproofed when I bought it tons of power easily pulled a 14k pound mini excavator only thing that went bad was the fuel sending unit
If you bulletproof that diesel it's good. But you shouldn't have to do that to get a good engine bit should come that way.
When I started looking at these heavy duty trucks I weighed the pros and cons and asked people what they think and I also put into perspective what I know, how I'll use it and if I will tow on a daily basis. I settled for a work truck Ram 2500 6.4 hemi, reason being I don't tow and will probably only do it once or never, it does good job when I hauled some furniture like there's nothing in its back, plus I need the ride height of a 4x4 3/4-ton.Now if you tow a lot, can afford the maintenance costs of diesel engine obviously its either going to be Duramax, Cummins or Powerstroke and I heard some of them lasts 300,000 miles which I think is the 7.3 powerstroke.
I have a 2000 dodge Cummins has 330k miles on it for my tree service, I bought it with 265k and it has needed very little work. Its my daily driver as well as one of the work trucks, hauling 5-12k lbs regularly. Least amount of down time is important! Long oil change intervals and simple maintenance, I do everything myself except transmission flushes, which is a good thing to do in the long run.
You can extend oil changes by switching to synthetic.
We have Chevy 2500s new, semi new, and 2003 diesels. Amazing power, fuel efficient. We had a powerful ford but it had alot of other problems.
Hey I purchased 99 Ford F-350 7.3 New Had it 17 years and loved it. The engine was all forged parts unlike later they used castings. The problem Fords sheet metal rusted away so traded it in for one owner low mileage 2006 Cummins QCLB. Beautiful truck until some kid ran a stop sign.
Love my 5.9 cummins. 3/4 ton dodge run a 9ft blade and have no complaints.
Cummins are awesome.
After a year of research, looking and learning about diesel engines (student service technician), I came to the conclusion that the cummins are the best and my favorite. They live a long life and they hold their value more than the other 2. I recently got a 2011 Ram 2500 with a Cummins for too good of a deal to pass up. Also because my 04 durango took a shit.
I have a 2009 f350 6.4 diesel love it had zero problems got 350000 km on it I love it. Also had a 2008 Chevy 6.6 diesel loved that Aswell had 460000km on it work truck highway km
Thats a lot of miles- glad to hear its holding up.
Stanley, a lot of people laughed at me including my wife but I bought a 1991 M925A2 military 5 ton truck. It has an 8.3 liter Cummins engine and an Allison 5 speed automatic. 49" tall super single tires and is 6 wheel drive. Why did I buy this? Simple. I needed a massive truck for towing a heavy Case diesel tractor and Bush Hog and I pallet fork my zero turn mower into the bed of the truck. The truck is 5 ton carrying capacity off road and 10 tons on road. Best of all it only had less than 10,000 miles on it with a fresh rebuild in 2012 from the Red River Army Depot and my total investment cost was $16,000. I have put another 10,000 miles on it and have only had very minor issues with it. Total win in buying this truck. I like it so much that I actually want to buy a second 5 ton but in a dump truck version. When I am at a combined weight between the truck, cargo, trailer and tractor of about 45,000 I am still getting about 5-6 miles per gallon. Some people laugh at this. I look at it as I don't need multiple trucks to do the same thing a single massive truck can do. My wife finally admitted the other day that it was a practical and logical purchase. That is saying something! Let me know what you think.
I think that is so Cool!! Awesome idea!
My daily: 02 F350 with the 7.3. Fun fact: the 7.3 Powerstroke was actually made by International. I also own 2 Cummins: a 5.9 24v and a 6.7 that I bought in late 2007. I own 2 Chevrolets, both are the pre-Duramax diesel trucks. One of my Chevrolets no longer have the original engine, one of my rookies blew the engine on a plow job. That truck now utilizes a Detroit Diesel 4-53T engine.
The rookie, the engine she blew, was the 6.5.
Yeah I did know that on the 7.3. Love that engine 😄
Can't go wrong with that engine, that why my family vehicle is an 02 Excursion with the 7.3
I am a big fan of the newer 6.2 liter gas engines in ford trucks as well as the v10 they use to have. Diesels are great but I've seen more problems with older diesels keeping up with emissions standards recently then I see worth it to spend all that money initially if a few years down the line it's not going to be able to run under whatever emissions will be in place.
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2004 is the Ford 6.0 diesel.
the thing wrong with the 6.0 diesel that Ford used during those years was EGR cooler, head bolt, and head gasket .
I have a 2004 with a 6.0 and I've had all the issues taken care of and now I'm on 389,000 Miles plus .
Thats awesome! But ford should have done all that for you.
Gas because I'm a full time student and a one man show. Currently running a 5.7L Tundra.
I worked landscaping for a University and we plowed all of our sidewalks with 1/2 ton gas trucks. We also had a few 3/4 ton trucks as well equipped with salt spreaders and a few of them with brine tanks also, these were all gas GMC sierra's/Chevy Silverado's. The Landscape sevice division for the University would lease these trucks for about 3 years, but they would keep extra truck beds on hand at all times because they would get all banged up. People cutting too tight around light poles and brushing the side of the bed pretty good. We have our own body shop as well, but they decided that it wasn't worth the man hours to repair it. It was more effective to replace the bed completely at the end of the season. Just from my experience.
Wow- that sounds like pretty crappy operators.
I have a 2001 LB7 Duramax, when it works I absolutely love it, its not choking on emission stuff nor has ever had a cat and it has never left me on the side of the road. the truck has over 260k miles some of that wasnt from me but since I've had it, engine wise I've had to put in a new cp3 and surprise surprise injectors. Its my first diesel I've ever owned. Yes I use it for work and yes I tow but the stuff I do I can easily get it done in a gasser but chose not to go that way, how can you hear a diesel truck spool pass you and not think they sound awesome
They do sound awesome 😄
Its not always about the engine size, need bombproof trans and suspension.
Look at truck pulls, both gas and diesel do well.
I bought 6 Chevy K1500 rwd with a 5.0 and they all new back in 98 and just like u said they were through away trucks didn't expect much. 5 trucks lasted about 7 years before any problems then the Trans started to go and the body's started rusting, so I agree if u want cheap trucks buy gasoline trucks and sell them within your 5-6 year window to come out on top of the truck
Nice. Thanks. 👍
I've ran a 2001 F150 7700 light 3/4 ton 4WD in the past, it had strong suspension for what it was, mostly because it had aftermarket helper springs when I bought it used privately. The truck had lack luster power as far as going fast on the highways and pulling a heavier loaded trailer, it had the 5.4 V8 Triton motor which are not legendary for their speed or get up and go speed & insane high horse power. I sold that truck and now own and drive a 2001 F350 Super Duty 4WD also with a 5.4 Triton V8 engine. Same engine as the F150 I had but this one feels a Lot more comfortable when towing a loaded trailer, especially when it comes to stopping power and controlling the trailer on the roads. The sheer difference is that my F350 has the bigger axles, suspension, brakes, frame etc than the F150 7700 and has a much larger wheelbase being a crew cab, long bed 4WD SRW 1 ton. I'll more than likely swap in a Triton 6.8 V10 engine conversion into it at some point for extra horsepower and torque but I wouldn't get a diesel unless I was planning on towing more than 10,000-13,000 lbs on a daily/weekly basis personally. But as far as towing your 6000-8500 lbs camper trailer or smaller bobcat or a car from time to time on a flatbed trailer I would stick with a gasser truck for cheaper repairs, easier start ups in the cold weather, easier to diagnose issues and more versatile in my own personal opinion. I accept that I can't drive 80 mph on the highway with my gas 1 ton but who really purchases a 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck to rip down the road like a race car anyways? Generally people know what they are getting into buying a truck with 3.73 or 4.10 gear ratios, those are made for bottom end pull power, and lower end torque for pulling and carrying heavy cargo in the bed. That's just my 0.02 on this anyways.
Lots of great info- Thank you!
6.0. 6.4. 6.7. No such thing as a 6.1 power stroke. Love the videos. Glad I found your channel.
Thanks Scott!
I could listen to this guy talk for hours
Mike-I have a podcast out there for people that want a whole lot more info than these videos provide.
I personally really like the 2005 GM 6.6 LLY Duramax I've hulled lots of hay, cattle, and farm equipment with it and it's I'm stock co figuration, the only problem with it so far has been the injector pump and fuel pump but that's from all the strain on the engine, I'd say if I didn't haul alot of stuff I probably wouldn't have had to replace the injector pump and fuel pump.
How many miles when that happened?
Theres Highway miles, city miles, tow miles, and then there are farm truck miles lol. 150k farm miles is equal to about 600k Highway miles in my book
+Matthew Meek yea pretty close lol but it still runs damn good.
I use my 2006 f350 6.0L every work week (6 days) I studded it and did an egr delete and straight piped the exhaust to eliminate back pressure. NEVER has given me any trouble, diesels its all about fluids, filters, and routine oil changes. Diesel all the way if you maintain your engine, if you don't think you can handle that then stay far away from them
I bought an 03 f250 with a 6.0 Diesel and put $6k into the engine 4 months after buying it for $6.5k with a Meyer plow. My 05 Chevy 2500HD has a 6.0 gas and my employees and I call her old faithful. haven't done anything but change oil and even with 17 items tripping the check engine light (low on $ due to Ford and divorce) she still runs like a champ and gets good fuel economy!
Good to know!
I have 2017 ford f 250 XLT regular cab I bought a 7.3 liter engine and had it taken apart and cleaned and put back together and installed and put into my 2017 ford f 250
5.9 12 valve. maybe a duramax but depends on which one. I had a old 6.5 turbulent diesel in a 95 k2500 extended cab with a 8 ft bed. pmd relocation kit and a boost sensor later it made me a bunch of money but far from a perfect workhorse. got good mpgs and I honestly regret selling it. drove beautiful
How long did you own it?
Would love, to see a 2024 updated video on your opinion! I think the new gas 7.3 ford motor is a game changer! Even the new 6.6 gas gm gasser is great!
Hey guys...had a couple ford's (6.0 & 6.4) if you want to have alot of fun and put alot of extra money in them that's the way to go but if you want a work horse get the cummins...I do alot of structural steel hauling with mine and the cummins WOW 3 years old 340000km...I did chip it to override the Def system and put a fass fuel in it but that's it...have fun out there
I did a video along the same lines as this. I have driven 100 000's of miles and yes diesels are harder workers and at the time were better at the fuel mileage. Today's diesels are the same but now with the addition of the additive you have to buy makes diesel unattractive. It takes a long time to make your money back on a diesel and now it is virtually impossible. I went to a econoline E-250. It is a 2007 and has over 550 000 miles and I have never opened the engine or transmission. Yes it has been used for Highway ONLY and that's why I have the high mileage. But gas engines are as good as diesels today and the choice is up to the individual. Today I can't justify the 10 000$ cost for a diesel -John
Great point. I view it the same way 😄👍
bulletproofed 6.0 Powerstroke is phenomenal!
I'm a gas burner kind of guy. Newer diesels have too many problems to justify the added up front and maintenance costs. I also prefer the 6.0 gym gas over the 6.2 fords due to cam phaser issues. The hemi just doesn't pull well enough to even be considered in a heavy truck.
I'm a gas burner convert. All diesel over to gas now.
All about the maintenance bud. I own an 04 f350 with the 6.0 in it. Love it. Keep up in the maintainence and run the tuning stock, 215000 miles on it now. Truck runs like new even in -15 temps
Nice- glad to hear you know what your doing with that engine.
In2007 Iwas foolish enough to beleive that by 2005 they had worked out the bugs in the 6.0L! I bought a 2005 F350 for $28,000 and over the next 5 years I poured another $36,000 from nose to tail into it but primarily under the hood. It got so bad that my wife nicknamed it "The Mistress" it currently still sits in my back yard till I do the Cummins transplant!
I love Dodge. The 5.9 Cummins engine is my preference 12v and 24v. I get real good fuel economy about 24mpg. The diesel in my opinion is better like the video said better power and fuel economy. Plus diesel sounds "cooler" and when modified it can beat a sports car in a race.
Hey, I run a 2001 7.3 f550 and 2004 duramax both diesels I been very lucky I'd say, not many problems with motors, we had to pull both motors and change oil pan, exhaust manifolds, typical plow truck stuff. they have about 210 hundred thousand miles.
we have done body work, and replace another of metal, bought them new, love diesels.
have 3 newer gas trucks, their good, but like you say not every truck is a keeper. you have to pick and choose. I find the transmission the Allison that comes in gm trucks is Superior to any ford. and 2001 ford trans sucks...my trans guy hates em.
but still warranties all his work. he's a life saver. lol
dodge had a promo when i purchased my plow truck...free upgrade to cummins engine! it was a no brainer. Unfortunately, having a cast iron block and head limits the plow weight (in order to stay within the GFWR..so i dont void my warranty).
Stanley, here in the UK we don't really have a choice in terms of Diesel or Gasoline as all pickups in the UK are diesel. Here in the UK i use a Ford Ranger 3.2 and have had very little issues with it.
I've ran 2 duramax trucks to 390,000k and have nothing major go wrong on them, but strict maintenance which sure cost less in the long run
The only time I'd run a diesel, and it'd be a Cummins, would be Hotshot towing. Other than that, it really isn't necessary.
My '99 24V Cummins has about 190k on it. Runs and drives amazing and will pull anything you hook it to. Wouldn't trade it for anything. The company I worked for before I went solo had two 6.4 powerstrokes that I wouldn't have given a bag of rocks for. They were constant trouble. As far as gas engines, Ford has never failed me. Great video!
Thank you!
I run a Dodge Ram with the. 5.7 and I have had the truck for 10 year and have never had any problems with the truck.
How many miles and how hard do you work it?