Transform Your BEDROOM Into a STUDIO (On a BUDGET) | ADAM Audio & Westlake Pro
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2020
- Transform Your BEDROOM Into a STUDIO (On a Budget) with Westlake Pro | ADAM Audio
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Studio Monitors: tinyurl.com/y74o693b
Audio Interfaces: tinyurl.com/ya33aovf
Microphone: tinyurl.com/y9dnjcvl
Acoustic Treatment: tinyurl.com/yccx2b5m
Today we talked with Mark Ellis of Westlake Pro in Nashville on ways you can transform your typical apartment bedroom into a functional mix and vocal studio... From the acoustic treatment, to the desk placement, to the microphone & studio monitor choice. We understand this is not the ideal situation when it comes to a studio build, but we also know it's what a lot of people are working in, so we wanted to give a few ways that you can make it a bit more functional, so you can mix & produce more confidently.
#adamaudio #studiomonitors #studio #acoustictreatment
We understand this setup is far from ideal, but we hope it helps for all those in quarantine, needing some guidelines on where to start when it comes to turning your bedroom into a studio. If you have questions leave them below! 👍
Again, a really great video for starters! One thing I would have mentioned is the chair (not that is matters acoustically). One of the best recent investments I made in my studio was a proper ergonomic chair. It makes a world of a difference as you are sitting in front of your monitors for hours :) The other point is the alignment with the display and speakers. It also makes a huge difference if you move the display forward or backwards (depending on the angle of the speakers). I personally like my Adams pointing a bit behind my back and around 2 inches in front of the display.
Attila Portwill Great input! Yes... a good chair can 'literally' be a life-saver. Also a great point about the display and your screen.. the computer monitor can create unwanted reflections so keeping that behind your speakers as much as possible is a definite plus. 👍
Its actually VERY important that its not ideal! Too many videos discuss these issues as if real world considerations don't exist (ie budgets, room shapes, families). The reality is that most music is being recorded now in homes - so thats where we need most advice! Thank you. Also, BTW, I am loving the T8Vs I recently reviewed on my channel - really enjoying mixing with them :)
@@CreativeSauce So happy you're enjoying the T8Vs and found this video interesting! Loved the review you did.
@Aniket Gaikwad For a smaller room like that you want to follow most of the same steps here, just focus more on smaller monitors like our ADAM Audio A3X or use headphones primarily if you have a pair that you trust 👍
If this is a low end home studio, then mine is a potato
i dont even have soundproof pannels on mine hahahaha. i just have a studio monitor an analog mixer, preamp and a audio interface with an apex 435B condenser mic! XD till we move to a single house and get a decent space im just gonna save up a little bit.
@@ThatLzyGamer vocal performance and mixing is more important than all of this stuff
I have a laptop
@@HaasSpitta How do you mix without treating your room tho?
Same ma g like me room has to many echo and stuff..
Step 1 - sell your bed for speakers and sleep on the floor! The quality of the voice recordings improved massively once the panels went up!
Ideally you would have a 2-bedroom apartment, but this approach works as well
Or, don't sell your bed, cut your mattress to use it as acoustic treatment
There’s a couch to sleep on.
@@stateofdisarrei Literally what I did for well over a year when i built my studio lol
don't sell your mattress, it's a great absorbent the thicker the better
1st step: *LAVA LAMP*
Makes all the sonic difference 👌
Himalayan salt lamp. It’s mandatory in UA-camr home studios🤪
Those are great as well! :-)
2nd Step: SUCCULENT
My attic does the job!
Bedroom without a bed just call it a studio
Sofa i'm short!
This isn't about making a bedroom also a studio, it's about using A BEDROOM as a studio.
@@zacredington4776 but it hasnt a bed, so its not a bedroom
@@_Steve_Z Well “Home studio”
It's not a studio without room acoustic treatment. It's just a bedroom.
I like how the audio quality improves as the video progress and they continually add items.
Prood is in the pudding
@@darrengordon-hill prood
that was cool
I think people are missing the point that this is a studio in a "bedroom" in an apartment for actual professionals who are taking clients. Not necessarily for someone who's just recording their own stuff or with friends for fun. The goal is to make the room feel and function as much like a professional studio space as possible.
Really nice video
As much as I would love to configure a room like that. I don't even have a room to do it in. So I just throw one big 220x240cm winter blanket over myself, my speakers and the pc and I am done. Works most of the time. Gets hot though.
“Gets hot though” facts bro 😂
lmao
What kind of magical acoustic properties do Himalayan rock salt lamps possess and how many do we need?
They make your 808s bang and you need 37 of them
@@ADAMAudioBerlin You're so right, I miscalculated and was working with 27 and couldn't understand why my mixes sounded so muddy and woolly, I've just purchased 10 more on your advice and wow, everything sounds like it's shimmering, my 808 has never sounded so good and I just can't stop dancin'. Great video by the way.
@@ADAMAudioBerlin Thanks for da SAUCE
Lmao
@@ADAMAudioBerlin So this is the real secret that noone was telling me, i knew i was missing something...
Wow, an apartment studio build where the people doing it ACTUALLY know what they are talking about and understand acoustics. Thanks for the video
So many of us are doing our work in bedrooms so this video covers a lot of ground for many of us!
We're happy we can help!
I think im addicted to watching studio setups lol Thanks for sharing!
Happy you enjoyed it!
I'm getting to the point where I'm spending more time researching music gear/setup than actually making music.
@@crawbug8932 I think that's called "Paralysis by analysis"
@@michaelsmith2017 I enjoy it, but it can get stressful. I need to remember that a hit can be made with entirely free software on a $200 laptop.
0:00 Intro
0:11 Final setup
0:15 Westlake Pro presentation
0:48 Desk placement
4:15 Front of the room
6:55 Speaker stands & isolation
8:42 The stereo triangle
9:55 The mirror trick
10:11 The windows
10:58 Cloud absorption
11:57 The back of the room
13:52 The interface
14:57 The microphone
15:54 Headphones
16:29 The vibe
17:27 Final thoughts
18:02 Outtakes
Keep the good work!
Hi Joe! Thank you for watching and creating this list! 👌
HMU brother
@@blainecasey5190 whats up
@@ADAMAudioBerlin I recommend putting this list on the description to make timestamps on the video.
Hands-down one of the most helpful and straightforward videos about the subject. Thanks!
Glad you found it useful!
take a shot every time this dude says ideally
Gotta go get a lava lamp now
We regret not making this the very first step in this video
Take a shot every time he says “complete the low end frequency”
"Complete the cycle" and the word "ideally"
"obviously"
"Mass"
I just obey the triangle rule for monitor position and also use only two pieces of sound absorbing material at the point of first reflection for each monitor. Has worked good enough for me in all my home studios.
Plus you can still have a bed in the room this way. Bed soaks up a lot of reflections...
A/B-ing your mix with one that sounds good. And then getting close to it, both in that room, should get a decent mix.
Just get in that room, however it's outfitted for what you can afford, and start creating.
I'm listening in a room that ticks all the boxes a poor listening environment should. My placement isn't great either and in no way does my F7s justice, so this video is just what I need, thank you for taking the time to make it. The difference in the sound of the room at 2:00 and 8:00 is significant which inspires confidence.
Thanks and we're so happy you found this helpful! It's not perfect, but it's a great starting point for people wanting to enhance their listening environment.
this dude didnt bore my ear holes and was actually able to take his words in ,the interface thing iv overlooked completely so thanks
Really helpful video. I could notice the full carpet floor in the room at the end of the video but there was no point made about it. I think it is also important mentioning to have a soft floor surface like there is in this room or add a rug under the mixing chair that covers most of the floor surface. This will highly benefit the room as well.
Very honest video! For those that did not catch it, use headphones if your room sucks!!
How fitting, just received my A3x's for my bedroom Studio. 🔥🔥 Gonna try this setup.
..just paranoid about having my back to the doorway when I'm tuned into my music lol
We hope you enjoy your A3Xs!
This video helped so much because I have my first space for a studio and it's exactly this size. I am still not done setting it up but it's close. My mentor mentioned all the pertinent things in the first half of the video but he went too fast I barely got notes and remembered it all. Thankfully this video exists now to reference. Thank you!
That's awesome! We're happy to help 😊
Great interview! Mark is so professional 🧡
If the height of your bedroom is 8ft tall, you can just stack 2 4ft bass traps or insulation panels without drilling into the wall in an apartment and they will stay inplace...I've done this many times in many rooms.
Another trick for windows is to just buy a sheet of sheet rock, cut to size and cover the window and add insulation
What is "sheet of sheet rock"
@@MissAnnaDominique if you copy and pasted that exact phrase into google, you'd immediately see what he meant.
Bedroom with no bed... studio on a 'budget' of $4000... mention of an apartment and then drilling into walls... I hate clickbait.
$4000 is a budget... bedroom is the classification of the room - because it is... In an apartment, you’re either getting your deposit back, or you’re not. If you’re not you shouldn’t have a problem with drilling holes. If you are, you shouldn’t have a problem covering them up before moving out. I hate nitpickers.
@@phryge2468 its about 6k and it is NOT a low budget yes it technically is a budget but defs not a low budget
@@prod.2733 well... you can have a lower budget but half the equipment is going to suck and you’ll want to replace it within 6 months - 2 years. $6000 is not a lot of money for a studio (especially if you’re including the computer).
How can you say that $6000 is a lot for a studio when an amazing quality, kitted out studio can easily cost 60,000-600,000?
Allinson If you don’t think 6k is a lot of money for a studio you clearly have money hahaha.. my makeshift studio costs under 2k and it’s been going for 5 years. In that time i’ve done professional work for brands, artists and labels.
@@prod.2733 different strokes, different folks.
If your goal is just getting going then that works, but that’s not what I’m after with a studio. As a physicist, I care deeply about doing whatever I can to hear sound in it’s most real form. High level converters & monitoring headphones alone cost 5k together. Is that necessary for a ‘bedroom’ studio? Absolutely not, but at the same time, is it overkill to spend half your studio budget on a high level converter/pre-amp (especially if you’re running analog instruments through it) and fantastic quality reference headphones? I would say it isn’t.
Most people I know that run very quality studios stick by the line of “if you’re going to get a working piece for your studio, you don’t really want to spend less than $1000”. It’s obviously not great “budgeting” advice, but you don’t need a lot in a studio to get started, and quality in the long run will always pay off.
You’re saying “if you don’t think 6k is a lot of money for a studio, you clearly have money”, which isn’t true at all. That’s like saying “if you don’t think 18k is a lot of money for a car, you clearly have money”. 18k is relatively more money than a car you could get for 10k, but in the grand scheme, 18k is very reasonably priced and there are a shit ton more expensive and far higher quality cars then at the price point of 18k.
Thanks for the ideas, I'm in the process of fine-tuning my new home studio thankfully I have a larger space to work with but this video has answered my questions about types of sound treatment for the walls. I live alone in an apartment so my living room is the work area.
We're so happy it helped out!
Thanks! A topic that was discussed million times before but you summarized it pretty good. Thank you very much! :)
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New drinking game: take a drink after every time they say "combat"
this is actually a good guide!
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Few people ever discuss the brushes or paint used to create the Mona Lisa or the Sistine Chapel, we just marvel at the end result. Some of the greatest music ever was created with simple tools in humble settings. Great art comes from the heart, hands & mind of the artist, not the tools they use to give it to the world. Getting hung up on cost, the technical aspects of the gear or other less consequential matters will always inhibit creativity. Concentrate on being creative with what you have rather than stressing about what you don't have.
This is nice to see in that you didn't remove all the reflection, you controlled it instead. A realistic example of the end result of a bedroom studio treatment.
My room is smaller, I bought too big speakers “because I could afford it”. I have 8 synth but a 1m20 long table. Laptop and audio interface take all the space. During the day, all my synth are laying down on my bed, at night, on the ground. My door can barely open fully, this video depresses me hahaha
Funny how much less echo there is at the end of the video
I have music content check me out
Whoa. Totally true. Went back and checked. Huge difference
Well...
Yes? How is it funny that you hire a pro to treat your room and most of the echo is removed? This isn't magic that's basic acoustic 101 really
this is actually a very good knowledge we can get about home studio
You've done a great service with this video. Thank you! I'm a first-time bedroom studio builder and haven't started yet. Completely by coincidence, I'm already planning on getting a pair of Adam T5Vs for near field monitoring. Can't wait!
So happy you're enjoying it Rob! We know you'll love the T5Vs as well 👍
I would have liked some insights on the placement of the monitor screen relative to the studio monitors.
As everything is kind of a reflective surface, is there a rule for these?
It is kind of obvious that the distance between the audio monitors limit the size of the screen, but one could be tempted to move the audio monitors back, and increase the distance between them so it keeps being an equilateral triangle relative to the listening position. This could then lead to a cat and mice situation, as, moving the monitors back to much, could make it reflect on the back of the screen, needing to move the screen back, etc.
A big question: for small spaces where you want to maximize space with vertical shelves, is that going to be super detrimental to sound? Would putting panels behind open shelving units be pointless?
I live in a dorm, sadly I can't make up my room or the owner will strike my ass. I have no bass trap, diffuser and absorbtion. I used to work on this room, doesn't sound very clear but still can mix and master. Someday I tried to work on my friend proper studio, it really sounds different and very clear. I can hear every single sound that I put on the track by playing it together. so I know why we need a acoustic treated room to get a better music (producing, mixing and mastering) . I hope someday I get much money to upgrade my music room life. Thanks Mr.Adam and Mr.Ellis, you're an inspiration!
Thank you for covering transforming a bedroom to a studio.
Thank you for watching 🙏❤️
you did, in fact, forget the bed.
Steve jobs slept on the lawn 😂
I guess “budget” means $5k budget. And “bedroom” means room without a bed. Suprised they didnt sound dampen the lava lamp and water bottles.
I have music content check me out
@@DidierBampiliMusicProduction I did it’s terrible😂
@@user-rz9yg1lt9e ok. Thanks for stopping by. Lol 😅
@@DidierBampiliMusicProduction nice to see you cool about it :) most people are really offended by criticism I respect you
Very informative video. Thanks for sharing. Have a great day. Happy Friday!! 👍
This was so freaking informative... Jeez.. Thank you guys so much!
“On a budget” but I’m pretty sure that microphone alone is $500
if you are a musician that deals with vocals, a mic is something you do NOT wanna cheap out on. 300-500 bucks.
Sadly, in my country (Argentina) is very hard to get a microphone over 200usd.
@@dopelbangersentertainment.2557 shoot for sound treatment and better recording techniques
@@ayodez9951 Yeah but i mean is about the quality of the mic too. i bought an at2020 for 250usd and normally it cost like 100usd
these white folks make everything sound like cosplay
I have a pair of A7xs coming today and I'm pumped. Haven't done much to treat my room (although it's not bad right now with a big area rug and a bed) but I'm glad someone finally made a solid video around turning a bedroom into a budget studio.
We're happy this helps and we're excited for you to get your A7Xs, Matt!
Amazing video, glad UA-cam recommend it.
Thanks for the tips. A smooth unobstructed pan of the entire room and ceiling after the setup would have also helped. We only saw partials with "cut scenes."
Just when I needed it😊
Happy to help 👍
very clearly presented- thank you
thanks very much lads, very informative
What if the table is big enough - say 6.2 Feet (to hold synths and mixer and snd-card) ? Does one still need stands for the speakers?
now i can't fit my bed
well, the closed is empty...
Couch bed is your new friend
if you're sleeping, you're not producing music though
what do you need a bed for?
@@nev4696 To do the nasty, after creating a nasty beat.
Being straggling to setup my motion command touch screen and this video gave me an idea of how to find that sweet spot not only for monitoring but for viewing 👍
Hi Blair! So glad to hear we could inspire you!
Thank you for addressing all of the common issues!
Hi Rojo! Happy to help!!:)
My missing link is the lava lamp :)
Lava lamps take your mixes to the next level
Who needs a closet when u could just block it with a couch
A good tip for the windows is to open it, tuck a towel in between and close it, towels are very good sound absorption materials, it would surprise you how good actually !
Great Vid! some good ideas from This! especially removing echo from the room!
i didn't know jaackmate makes music!
on a budget... I would be interested to know what the budget was for this room
Well put together! Thank you
This is a great video with a ton of tips, even if you don't need to do all of this. I liked the mirror trick.
hey you got a closet you got a vocal booth
EXACTLY ... That is what I was thinking too.
This video perhaps needed a bit more thought. I appreciate the info, but man, this kinda misses many of the key issues people actually often suffer from when trying to make a budget studio in a bedroom, and falls for the pitfalls that so many novices fall for. The cost on some of this stuff is needlessly prohibiting. I’ll just point out, they didn’t listen to the room once until it was set up. They just put stuff up, looked in a couple of mirrors, and considered it a good job. Audio Engineers.
Wow, thats really great idea. Thank you for this video. Good job!
Homely is always a good vibe in the studio lol. Great vid.
I think my definition of budget is quite far apart from yours! Still some good tips I can use nonetheless though.
$400 for 2 monitors
$400 for the microphone
$200-$700 audio interfaces shown
$1000's for the acoustic treatment from clicking the link.
I think people looking for a budget set-up would be looking at $4/500. The total cost of that room appears to be in the $2000+ range, not including the desk, chair, sofa, laptop, midi controller.
The video is interesting and good info but putting the word budget in there is false advertising to me.
Hi! We understand your point, but we wanted to show a room that was realistic, without an Argosy studio desk, a nice desk chair or extremely high-end studio acoustic panels. There are a lot of tutorials for DIY acoustic panels & less expensive microphones that you can find that work great that would lower the investment significantly. Maybe in the future we can do another video with the equipment landing under a certain amount rather than just on a budget. Thanks for your input 👍
Disagree, given the things that us musicians spend money on. Over say a year or two, I think a lot of us would consider spending 2k on instruments or other gear entirely justified, so spending a similar amount on making the room you record and mix in seems OK to me.
Also, compared to what can be spent on professional treating a studio, this is probably on the low end of that scale
Obviously, if anyone was serious about music they would invest in their equipment. I use to work at Ihop when I was 22 just so I could buy a studio mic. Anyone that is not serious will get what they bought.
@@user-ot4rc9jh8e I've helped a couple of friends this lockdown who wanted to start recording at home. They baulked at buying a Focusrite Solo interface and a £100 condenser mic. I'm like, technically you CAN use your laptops sound card and Audacity, but just... don't
@@JayJohnsonStoke I completely agree with you about the investing idea (do it myself), but then... It's not budget anymore. My understanding of budget is: I don't have to invest much of my time and money on it. This setup is completely overkill for a "budget" setup
'Mitchell Pritchett builds a home studio'
This left corner panel poked me in the eye the whole time
This man LOVES the word “ideal”
And "obviously"
This is not what my I would call a budget, but nice vid
I understand that many people will say that no room is perfect, that many pros are doing music in worst environnement but they don’t mix or master in that kind of rooms :D
I am impressed that ADAM AUDIO validated this content… How can an acoustic speaker manufacturer validate this content ?
I am sorry for Mark, but Westlake should have sent on of their engineers and not on of their reseller...
@2 :20 A rectangle with no parralel surface is super false, breaking the parrallism is only what you do for early reflections zone and back corner walls…. See RFZ acoustics !!
@ Speaker placement will be determinated by the kind of speaker, front ported, back/rear ported or cabinet. You don’t place them the same way
@ 4 :40
*Need mass in the corner and porous behind the speaker doesnt mean anything acoustics wise… all absorber are porus, if too dense, you reflect
*Bass traping and mass are not related, MASS-SPRING is the concetp you are missing here. It has nothing do to whith heavy mass, the more dense, the more reflection you will get…
@ 5 :00 Are you guys serious by presenting Auralex as bass absorption solutions product ???
You cannot be serious please come on !!! it’s an insult to all the acoustics community :D
Where is GIK, VICOUSTIC, JOCAVI and others… What about DIY solution that are cheaper and millions times more effective than basic industrial packaging foam ?
@ 6 :00 Regarding speaker size, frequencies don’t have bigger or different cycles with bigger/more powerfull monitoring…
Frequency reproduction balance, listening distance and sound pressure ARE some of the criteria ...
@ 10 :00 windows… better not to have them ? really ?
Glass surface are great diffusors if located right, it’s not their presence that is problematic, it’s where they are in the room! you would be looking for absorption/diffusion symmetry...
Also, why not talking about self acoustic measurements ? Room EQ Wizard is free and deliver incredible analysis, you juste need a 50euros measurment mic to start...
Is the purpose of this video only to target beginners out of knowledge to buy the T serie products and eventually some Auralex (partnership) products... ? because knowledge wise, it's a fail...
I am gonna think twice about this S3V monitoring need for my control room :D
Im glad this rant is helping you make better music
The body language in this video amazed me. Also those "bass traps" hehe. super useful info though, very digestible too which is great. thanks :)
this is great learned a lot about how to maximize my studio space
How to turn your bedroom into a studio on a budget... "get theatre curtains for the windows" Lol
"On a budget" Audio interface $700 minimum
$400 microphone
this comment was origionally a reply to someone, but ive decided to bost it in the main comments aswell. I've actually looked into the prices for everything in the room, event went as far as doing the digging to find the exact desk... I got the prices for everything sound wise, from the acoustical treatment, and their exact models. to the audio interface and even studio accessories (speaker and mic stands), and lets just say this studio is by no means on budget. this might be on budget. but for people who own a full-time big name studio that's making thousands upon thousands of dollars a month., and wanna expand with smaller rooms. I wont bother you with the prices for the desk and all. But ill say the total cost on acoustical treatment isn't very low. below you'll find the names, and links, to all the products featured in this video. all individually. with total USD and CAD prices at the end
Accoustics + Mounting:
(All from Auralex Acoustics)
SonoSuede™ Panels x7
auralex.com/sonosuede-pro-panels/
SonoSuede™ Corner Traps x2
auralex.com/sonosuede-corner-traps/
ProMAX™ V2 x2
auralex.com/promax-v2/
Deep6™ Corner Mounting Kit (Includes 6 bass trap coroner mounts) x1
auralex.com/deep6-corner-mounting-kit/
2" Impaling Clip (For wall Panels) [2 per panel] x12
auralex.com/2-impaling-clip/
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Sound Equpitment:
(from Westlake Pro & Sweetwater)
[Pre-Amp, Audio Interface, Microphone, Headphones, Speakers]
Focusrite Clarett OctoPre 8-Channel Preamp x1
westlakepro.com/product/focusrite-clarett-octopre/
Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 (Gen 3) 2-Channel USB Desktop Interface x1
westlakepro.com/product/focusrite-scarlett-2i2-gen-3-2-channel-usb-desktop-interface/
Shure SM7B Dynamic Microphone x1
westlakepro.com/product/shure-sm7b/
ADAM Audio Studio Pro SP-5 Closed-Back Headphones x1
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SP5--adam-audio-studio-pro-sp-5-closed-back-headphones
Adam Audio T5V Studio Monitor x2
westlakepro.com/product/adam-audio-t5v-studio-monitor/
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Studio Accessories:
(from Amazon)
[Stands - Mics, Speakers]
On Stage MS9701TB Plus HD Tele Boom Mic Stand. (The URL is safe. I just needed to shorten it, it does bring you to Amazon.)
shorturl.at/huJOT
Ultimate Support MS-90/36B MS Series Professional Column Studio Monitor Stands
www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Support-Professional-Non-marring-Decoupling/dp/B005UUAOLA?th=1
These are total costs in USD & CAD
USD:
$4,230 without tax
(Not gonna add it cause I'm lazy at this point and I've spent well over an hour and a half on this comment)
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CAD:
$5,749 without tax
total tax:
$747.40
Total CAD price including tax:
$6,496.40
@@SeratoReview Thanks, they should probably add that this is for small studio owners, instead of a click bait title
Scarlett Solo- $100 and a great interface if you're on a budget. The little red interface on the desk is the Scarlett 2i2 which is $150
@@piccoloblack Perspective honestly. It's not in anyway a click bait title, because from their view this truly is budget, especially when you're looking for "studio quality" vocals in such an unprofessional environment.
Great video guys! I'll be making this required viewing for my students!
Thanks for watching, Jef! Hope your students enjoy it 👍
Did Adam dirty, including the footage of him practically falling down the stairs 🤣🤣
This is awsome, but if this is your bedroom….
Where are u gonna sleep?!!!
Mossik the other bedroom
you probably spent atleast 3500$ in this "on a budget studio"
Nope. He spent almost $7,000 dollars. Another person researched the cost on everything they used
and it came out to almost 7 thousand. 🤣
its an investment
$7000 is not a lot of money considering what can be produced with the equipment in this video. It's less than $20/day over a year. I don't know of any producers than charge less than $20/hr.
@@PeytonGregory people think plugging headphones into a laptop with FL studio is a “budget studio”. Expectations are out of whack for the insane amount of work it takes to build a studio. $7000 for a quality studio, is an amazing use of money imo
@@SuperHonkyPodcast well take away tax’s & it’s cheaper
Great Outtake!!!
awesome video guys! definitely going to reference this if/when i can afford a place with a dedicated room for my studio. Stuck in the bedroom for the time being :/
He keeps saying "obviously" - we don't know that it's obvious if we are trying to learn about it...
Hi Sarek, apologies for that. This is our first video in this format, so we weren't sure what our audience's prior knowledge was, but we will adjust our communication going forward. Thank you for your input!
Obviously he’s going to respond courteously
"obviously this is not an ideal studio"
Bruh I have a mic w no pop filter or stand and it sits on my desk and I use my typing keyboard to play the piano.
I'm pretty sure the MY "studio" isn't ideal lmao.
@@geraldohernandez9601 bro i use the mini tripod for my phone as a micstand lmao
@@joolian Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.
Drop your IG bro
My bed takes up a lot of space in my bedroom though T.T
I was waiting for him to say, "You know, ideally, you're not broke and can afford a real space. BUT..."
I freaking love my A5X's!! They completely ruined it for me for getting any other monitor system. I love them so much. Also very informative video! Starting my BA in Music Production in a couple of months and this was awesome! Go ADAM!!!!!
Thank you so much for your kind words! We wish you all the best for your studies :-)
BEST VIDEO I'VE SEEN SO FAR!
My very brutally-honest comments:
1:54 - Mark Ellis says that waveforms bounce off of walls and go until they dissipate. Yes, that's true but it has NOTHING to do with the problems of a cube room (not a square, by the way). First a CUBE is just about the worst room that you would try to work in. Just don't do it. Look for a different space. Why? Because you can't treat that out. FACT. And 'as they say in Nashville', you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. ;)
2:22 - What? no parallel surfaces? Bullshit. If you angle all of your surfaces, you get the proverbial 'box of chocolates'. This is 'in-line' with the capricious criteria of RFZ or LEDE. It WILL fail. ;)
2:44 - Luxury has nothing to do with it. Make it work or get a different room. Cube rooms are horrible and you should NEVER spend much money to make a working mix room in one of these. They are impossible to treat and nearly impossible to get a good mix in. Unless you're Eddie Kramer.
Sitting in the center (front to back) of the room isn't 'necessarily optimal'? You've GOT to be kidding. This is bullshit. Period.
3:08 Waveforms don't have to complete their cycle. This is absurd. And again, he clearly doesn't understand the subject he's trying to teach. As Einstein said, "If you can't explain it to a 6-year-old, you don't understand it yourself".
4:02 Big, deep office desk - the worst thing, other than speakers, that you could put in a mix room. #facepalm.
4:34 There is no low-end buildup in corners. IT'S EVERYWHERE, but only more NOTICEABLE in corners. - again #facepalm.
4:40 "The biggest thing with that is mass..." What??? I'm serious. WTF does mass have to do with bass trapping???
4:50 "... so that there's mass in the corners..." WHAT?? Mark, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Mass... OMG! LMAO! 4:56 "... low-end buildup from your speakers..." LMAO!!
5:10 Auralux panels?? For Bass treatment?? Oh my fucking god!! ROFLMAO!
Note to anyone with a brain: The 'bass' begins at 2" of absorptive fiber will absorb down to about 800 Hz @ 80% efficiency and to 600 Hz @ 70% efficiency. - Don't look at anything below 70% efficiency because it's not really doing much. ;) and at 5:20 Mark's still talking about mass (this guy is misinformed at the very least. He knows less about acoustics than the average musician). Some information for you:
Generally accepted terms for the audible frequency range:
BASS:
Sub Bass: 20 to 60 Hz
Bass: 60 to 250 Hz
MIDRANGE:
Low Midrange: 250 to 500 Hz
Midrange: 500 Hz to 2 kHz
Upper Midrange: 2 to 4 kHz
TREBLE:
Presence: 4 kHz to 6 kHz
Brilliance: 6 kHz to 20 kHz
So, as you can see - 600 Hz doesn't even come CLOSE to the bass region. THINK! Use your critical faculties.
6:03 6 1/2" driver? ... the room can't produce the frequency? THIS has NOTHING to do with the speaker size! The speaker size is only limited by the convergence distance of the speaker design. - By the way, you CAN hear 15 Hz in a very small room if your sub is not ported. Keyword: Pressure. How do you think earbuds work?? hmmm?
I have honestly never seen a video so full of misconceptions and myths and outright fallacies until now...
6:50 "I'd recommend some headphones to supplement your speakers" #facepalm - Then why bother with ANY treatment or speakers at all!? To paraphrase Tom Hidley, "If the speakers and room are not telling you the truth, you have wasted your money on building the room."
9:26 I have to stop here. I don't have any more time to review this.
Summary: DO NOT FOLLOW THIS VIDEO! DO NOT FOLLOW THIS ADVICE! (There are some things that they got right, but they are few and far between)
Bottom line: I understand that most of you guys are looking for a home studio solution. But this is like the blind leading the blind. It is human nature to look for fast, easy, and cheap. Building a proper room for your mixing is NOT cheap, nor is it easy. Do it once - Do it right! Ok?
Most of you guys watching this know more about acoustics than Mark Ellis. But most of you don't understand the physics of sound.
If Mark Ellis is interested in actually learning more about acoustics, he can contact me. I am always open to sharing information and progressing in this field of research and knowledge.
Mark, contact me at john@jhbrandt.net I would be happy to meet you in a Zoom conference.
And of course that Monitor blocking so much stereo image hahaha
I will most definitely contact you
you make some great points, but i don't think the many insults and multiple "LMAO" were necessary to make those points.
@@supadisco True that :)
@@supadisco I try very hard not to go down the path of Ad Hominum attacks, but I find that (quite often) ridicule is an effective detergent for foolishness. 😉
"The room can't complete the cycle" is perhaps one of the dumbest things I've ever heard in trying to describe why smaller rooms can cause issues with lower frequencies, lol.
why is that?
How so? He's right, no?
I love how this is meant to be an Adam's products sponsor video and the guy always replies with some better alternatives than the products shown except for Shure ahah
Good job working with a tough room and realistic budget.
There is no any measurements (before and after). It's a pity :-( Maybe, next time?
You mentioned renting, but how are u gonna go drill into the wall in a rental property. Most landlords would be PISSED.
I wouldn't drill. I would use double-sided sticky foam tape or something similar that can hold the panels.
What’s the quality of the rest of your walls? The floors? The carpet? Are you getting your deposit back or nawh? If not, then just do it. The landlord won’t know until you move out. Want to get your deposit back? Just spend the 30 minutes to cover them up before you move..
@@phryge2468 This is true. When I used to rent many years ago, the handyman for the property told me that if you just use toothpicks to stick in the holes and paint over them that they will not be able to justify keeping your deposit unless the rest of the apartment wasn't move-in ready. That's all that needs to happen. The apartment must be in the same move-in condition like when you moved in. This is if you are moving out obviously. But if you are not moving out, also do what you have to do to set up your studio, period!
You can tell this get good results because 5 mins into the video it starts to sound much better than it started
haha when he said bass build up when speakers are too close to the wall, i started thinking that one day when i move my speakers there will just be a few days worth of low end coming out from behind the speakers from all the bass that has been building up behind there
I underestimated how much I need to learn about music
"on a budget" each of them acoustic plates you put on your walls are over 130 bucks each
Wow! It is noticeable already by the talking that the guys voices lost room’s echo!!! Wow!!! 😳☺️
Very useful information. Great ideas. I had a lava lamp in storage I wasn't using and dug it out thanks to this video. I have the gear just missing the vibe part. Working on that next. :)
That's awesome Ricardo, happy you got something from this video!