BIG BANG THEORY - Porsche Cayman GT4 Street Cup | Targa Trophy Ride Check

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  • Опубліковано 31 тра 2017
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    In today's world of sports cars - its become harder and harder to find the visceral connection usually associated with the best driving cars in the world. Between turbo charging, dual clutch transmissions and computer systems that virtually take the skill out of driving - there are very few new cars that deliver the emotional experience hardcore enthusiasts want.
    On this episode of the Targa Trophy ride check, we are going to explore one such car that fills this void. A car that was on everyone’s wish list for years and delivered in spades once it arrived. We’re talking about the 2016 Porsche Cayman GT4 dialed up to 10 By BBI Autosport!
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    Tunes:
    Deep Dish, Quench DC - High Frequency (Danny's Ballroom Edit)
    Brigitte Fontaine - Le Brin d'Herbe (Culangerie Club Edit)
    Elastic Reality - Casa de X feat. BT (Deep Dish Chamber of Sound dub)
    Enzo Bennet - Shadowman
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 331

  • @iVenyaWay
    @iVenyaWay 7 років тому +42

    Why this channel have only 35k subscribers?? It deserves much much more! Production is such a high level! Good luck in the future!

  • @noahsb9
    @noahsb9 7 років тому +270

    That wrap is so sick

    • @DasCayman
      @DasCayman 7 років тому +1

      noahsb9 best I've seen

    • @keyboarding5593
      @keyboarding5593 7 років тому +5

      It just reminds me of a banana :/

    • @DasCayman
      @DasCayman 7 років тому +7

      Keyboarding you must have some nice bananas

    • @peaohvee1784
      @peaohvee1784 6 років тому

      Love the wrap.

  • @dimitariliyanov3680
    @dimitariliyanov3680 7 років тому +250

    This channel deserves millions of subs!! just amazing content right here.

    • @MrBlackOwner
      @MrBlackOwner 7 років тому

      Dimitar Iliyanov wait for it

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      @leevelasco5907 7 років тому

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      @2jzandys444 7 років тому +2

      should be featured on Netflix

    • @BonnieBeatsMusic
      @BonnieBeatsMusic 7 років тому

      Seriously

    • @purplelambooo863
      @purplelambooo863 7 років тому

      couldn't agree more ,the quality is better than all my tv shows combine in Thailand

  • @mudslide13
    @mudslide13 7 років тому +66

    Seriously? They both complain about the manual transmission on the GT4?!?! "give me a PDK Porsche"??? It's not a commuter car. Nobody buying this would sit in traffic with it every day. Be thankful they gave you a third pedal you big baby!

  • @samdimitrov1900
    @samdimitrov1900 7 років тому +122

    The video production is next level !!! We want more videos ASAP :D

    • @Katsinum
      @Katsinum 7 років тому +12

      You do realize demanding quality content asap is kinda contradictory.

    • @samdimitrov1900
      @samdimitrov1900 7 років тому +13

      Yeah i realised that, but the videos are just soo awesome and i was just saying i would love to see more content bruh....

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    @WorldRaceMVG 7 років тому +53

    This channel is underrated as fuck

  • @slaverjoe7046
    @slaverjoe7046 7 років тому +31

    I would never buy an automatic car because of traffic, that's just a bit much to me. Yeah its not fun driving stick in traffic but, it's not bad enough for me to change such a vital part of my driving experience.

    • @carlosandleon
      @carlosandleon 6 років тому

      Mr. Ghoul try manila traffic lol

  • @mkelebay
    @mkelebay 7 років тому +35

    If you want a pdk go and buy something else. The GT4 was meant to be a complete package for a unique drivers car, pdk obviously takes away form that. It's like asking for a ferrari, but then asking to make the suspension as soft as a Cadillac from the 70s cause you want comfort.

  • @TheTopher
    @TheTopher 7 років тому +2

    Putting out some great content, keep up the good work guys!

  • @maanvendrasingh5499
    @maanvendrasingh5499 7 років тому +49

    You guys don't sound like the biggest manual fans, but the one of the biggest reason for this car's success was that gearbox.
    Thanks to the high demand for this car and pressure from enthusiasts, Porsche decided to go back to the manual transmission for the 991.2. I hope Porsche retains the manual in this car and leave the PDK for the GT3 RS.

    • @Hardcaslte
      @Hardcaslte 7 років тому +8

      Yeah their dislike of a real manual transmission was actually pretty annoying.
      We're car enthusiasts but a manual transmission is not fun.
      What? No driving enthusiast has ever said those words, ever. The only thing that made it even partially acceptable was driving in LA Traffic, ok I understand that might suck, but don't come on here saying that the manual transmission is the worst part of the car because you're basically too lazy to use one.

    • @CaseCuatroNueve
      @CaseCuatroNueve 7 років тому +6

      lol i agree. What i don't understand is the whole "I'm stuck in traffic 95% of the time" statement. If you're always stuck in traffic then why the hell would you even buy a sports car like the GT4 to begin with.

    • @Stryke607
      @Stryke607 7 років тому +9

      Also "this has the manual, instead of the traditional automatic gearbox"
      What?
      Since when is an automatic gearbox more traditional than a manual one?!

    • @mjspeedzone5532
      @mjspeedzone5532 7 років тому +4

      Ya not everyone lives in L.A. or a city.. it would be stupid for a company like Porsche to just build a car with an automatic because they expect everyone to live in a city. Some companies im sure do that for that reason. But that's not what this car was made for.. Its not made to be stuck in traffic. Its made to blow by traffic. lol, if your stuck in traffic its cause your driving to slow. 😂

    • @mathieusb508
      @mathieusb508 6 років тому +1

      Thanks for your message Maanvendra Singh, the guy with the sunglasses make no sens a Porsche with Cup setup it's manual gear box for sure not PDK that why this Porsche talk to the purist, if you want pdk for stay in the traffic jam buy a Prius or Tesla, because you dont need Cup package to like big wing suspension aero in traffic jam lol, this car is perfect for the weekend and track day (with manual Gear box off course !!!! )

  • @SpencerBerke
    @SpencerBerke 7 років тому +7

    Video production on point.

  • @untouchableali
    @untouchableali 7 років тому +37

    Problem with automatics is, as time passes the gearboxes always get dated because technology is always progressing. A good manual will never go out of date.

    • @raymondnewbill2748
      @raymondnewbill2748 5 років тому +2

      Well technically it's been out of date for a while.....
      However, certain "autos," wether that be a torque converter or a DCT, are so fucking good now, that they really are not gonna become dated. Like PDK really can't get any better. Or THE BEST tranny PERIOD, is the F1 DCT from Ferrari!!! Your not gonna get any better. But even normal cars, like the ZF8spd in the BMW's and Jags and AM. The shift and the more important part that nobody really talks about, the reaction time from when you touch the paddle, is so instant and brilliant that they simply are not gonna be noticebly better.

  • @erwintjia
    @erwintjia 7 років тому +3

    Just found this channel like 20 minutes ago, and i can't stop watching your videos. Great content, you got a new subscriber!

  • @eugeneyoon4219
    @eugeneyoon4219 6 років тому +1

    That wing extender is just what every GT4 needs. Amaze.

  • @TheCubsonus
    @TheCubsonus 7 років тому +2

    Another GREAT vid! Keep it up!

  • @julianceballos8795
    @julianceballos8795 3 роки тому

    Sweet build awesome video. One of my all time favorite. Thank you.

  • @josetascon1
    @josetascon1 7 років тому +2

    man who does your videos this is a sick production !! Love the quality it feels like a TV show man... Awesome

  • @Dativad101
    @Dativad101 7 років тому +2

    Extremely underrated channel... excellent content and excellent craftsmanship

  • @pinglee9938
    @pinglee9938 7 років тому +4

    The video is so nicely put together! We need more of this! 👍🏻👌🏻

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  7 років тому +2

      Much more to come... stay tuned!

  • @joshuarenaldo1892
    @joshuarenaldo1892 7 років тому +2

    this editing is next level. i feel like it's playing a game lol. good job man good job..

  • @lhansa462
    @lhansa462 7 років тому +1

    As always, outstanding work guys, looking forward for more of these exceptionally well made reviews! Keep the level up!

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  7 років тому

      Thank you Henrik, much more to come - hope you are subbed and stay tuned!

  • @ezekielk.3629
    @ezekielk.3629 7 років тому +1

    the half wrap half original body color theme is totally next level stuff
    it's phenomenal it's woah... just look look it!

  • @humanityfirst5490
    @humanityfirst5490 7 років тому +1

    awesome video as always! look forward to the next one :)

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    @winghangshih9097 6 років тому +1

    One of the best camera work video!!!!

  • @Tron247
    @Tron247 7 років тому +1

    One of the few channels that provide amazing production with equally as amazing and thorough reviews. Salute, keep up the amazing work Targa Trophy.

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  7 років тому +1

      Thank you TRON247 - hope you are subbed - we have some amazing videos to come!

  • @E39V8BMWM5
    @E39V8BMWM5 7 років тому +1

    Amazing video,keep up the good work !!

  • @jyefy
    @jyefy 7 років тому +1

    i want to see this man grow, this is epic

  • @MTobin1000
    @MTobin1000 7 років тому +5

    Jason, as I've commented on before...your videos are second to none. You are the best auto UA-camr online...period! If I had Mr. Spielberg's cell phone number I would be calling him daily encouraging him to review your work and then immediately hire you for being a Producer in his next film. Well done, Jason! (Mike in Ohio)

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  7 років тому +3

      Thank you MTobin1000!!! You have been here since the first few Ride Check's came out - appreciate you and all the support! We have some new things in the works... stay tuned - we want you to get even more hyped!

  • @sghotouk
    @sghotouk 7 років тому +1

    video production is on point and never a dull moment, why haven't i seen this channel till now?!

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  7 років тому

      Hope you are subbed, more great videos to come!

  • @Vartazian360
    @Vartazian360 7 років тому +15

    the proffessional production quality in these videos cannot be overstated. awesome. could you do the jaguar ftype?

  • @dylanw890
    @dylanw890 7 років тому +1

    SOOOOOOOOO UNDERATED! Definitely one of the best automotive channels on UA-cam! You have immense passion and take pride in editing and filming your videos. Although the Porsche GT4 was your personal car. You still pointed out the cons as well as the pros to give us a more unbiased opinion on the car. Keep up the great work! Just subscribed!

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  7 років тому

      Thank you Dylan - appreciate all the feedback and the sub. We have some amazing stuff coming out... stay tuned!

  • @Art_thr0b
    @Art_thr0b 6 років тому +1

    great walk through and the editing looks well thought out, keep up the work and love the reviews

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  6 років тому

      Thank you Hard Parked - new video is upload - check it out!!! :D

  • @Seitsneddeppat
    @Seitsneddeppat 7 років тому +2

    Great Content! Exactly my kind of automotive lifestyle.

  • @andrelomov
    @andrelomov 7 років тому +1

    Dudes, great great camera work! This is seriously better than most car videos.

  • @SPRCRS
    @SPRCRS 7 років тому

    Amazing cinematic filmed and edited video! Love it...

  • @antwailes2009
    @antwailes2009 6 років тому

    Fantastic video! Love this car so much. Maybe one day...

  • @comeonfu
    @comeonfu 7 років тому +2

    The visuals of this video, DAMN.

  • @atsuro69
    @atsuro69 7 років тому +1

    just chanced upon this channel. videos r awesome man. this is how car review videos should be made! subed!

  • @landenlove3051
    @landenlove3051 Рік тому

    very high quality video. well done.

  • @Forgeline
    @Forgeline 4 роки тому

    What a perfect car and stellar review!

  • @masterdrummer19
    @masterdrummer19 7 років тому +22

    damn that may be the best wrap ive seen in a long time. Its not too over the top but it stands out so well and make the car look even more special. great review

  • @BenzinioB
    @BenzinioB 7 років тому +4

    What to say.. long live the manual and pure drivers cars!

  • @titodef2821
    @titodef2821 6 років тому +1

    You guys make amazing video's! Great work

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  6 років тому

      Thank you Tito - hope you are subbed - we've got much more to come!

  • @adamgoodman3422
    @adamgoodman3422 7 років тому +3

    Best car. Nice spec. Carbon buckets are a pain for bigger dudes.

  • @AusnahmeSchoen
    @AusnahmeSchoen 7 років тому +2

    how well and nice is this video edit? so sick, thank you ;)

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  7 років тому

      Thank you Markisen - glad you enjoyed this video. Hope you are subbed - we have much more in store!

  • @7volcast
    @7volcast 7 років тому +13

    Ayeee! Beautiful review

  • @CarlosGarcia-anker
    @CarlosGarcia-anker 4 роки тому

    awesome wrap, good song. congrats

  • @813Productions
    @813Productions 7 років тому +2

    Good stuff man!

  • @chuckcribbs3398
    @chuckcribbs3398 3 роки тому

    That car...makes me drool. Perfect.

  • @JaredRosenholtz
    @JaredRosenholtz 7 років тому +3

    I was in the canyons and saw this car filming!

  • @waterboy1628
    @waterboy1628 7 років тому +1

    beautiful. sounds great and I actually like the wrap a lot.
    probs would have gone with slotted brakes but that's just me.

  • @murdamuzik4128
    @murdamuzik4128 4 роки тому +1

    That's car looks sick love the look

  • @Lxvdm
    @Lxvdm 7 років тому +1

    Please do a behind the scenes! Production quality is just too good!

  • @christophercatto7184
    @christophercatto7184 3 роки тому

    kudos for going from 20" wheels to 19s. I often find that owners and companies believe that bigger is better but I think that they don't actually speak to the vehicle dynamics guys who develop geometries and tyres. 19 inch wheels for this kind of car is perfect.

  • @masterchief11773
    @masterchief11773 5 років тому

    That Cayman is PERFECT

  • @Jmoneypoprocks
    @Jmoneypoprocks 5 років тому

    Amazing Car, Congratz!

  • @roebbiej
    @roebbiej 7 років тому +1

    holy shit. amazing car, amazing video. thanks!

  • @jackallen6261
    @jackallen6261 7 років тому +1

    Very cool car! I personally don't care for the wrap but if we all liked the same thing shit would get pretty damn boring I reckon. Love the fact that you went down on wheel size, thanks for that!!

  • @joshsloan3866
    @joshsloan3866 6 років тому +1

    That's the nicest cayman gt4s I've ever seen love what u did with it my kinda car keep up the great videos

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  6 років тому

      Josh Sloan Thank you sir. Our GT4 is really one of the best cars we have ever driven. Thanks for the good words about our videos. We have much more to come!!!

  • @F1RANGELF1
    @F1RANGELF1 7 років тому

    Great video

  • @Noposwowskis
    @Noposwowskis 7 років тому +1

    Missed these vids. Thank god one is out

  • @Holmqvisth
    @Holmqvisth 7 років тому +3

    As always you bring great quality without adding useless and unnecessary info and clips. Keep it up guys!

  • @siddharthnandi8567
    @siddharthnandi8567 7 років тому +1

    content right here

  • @jokur8935
    @jokur8935 7 років тому +1

    I watch your channel 20% for the cars and 80% cinematography :D

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  7 років тому

      Either way... we'll take it! :D

    • @jokur8935
      @jokur8935 7 років тому

      LOL I didnt mean that to come off weird I just really like how you make your videos

  • @Josue0322
    @Josue0322 7 років тому +4

    Amazing review and the quality is incredible. I know and hope this channel will BLOW UP! deserves millions of subs

  • @thebrandon9287
    @thebrandon9287 7 років тому +1

    Good looking GT4 with tasteful mods.

  • @KhoiBoa
    @KhoiBoa 7 років тому +2

    Nice Video. I like the Switch to another guy saying manual is kinda a hassle in traffic. I take an automatic too. Just more practical more my life.

  • @meridian7143
    @meridian7143 6 років тому +1

    dope car, man.

  • @stevenjalopnik1342
    @stevenjalopnik1342 7 років тому +1

    make videos weekly please. they are the best car vids on youtube. period

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  7 років тому +1

      Ashwin, you are reading our minds... stay tuned! :D

  • @JibinMianbao
    @JibinMianbao 7 років тому +1

    great channel 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @realtalk4689
    @realtalk4689 7 років тому +1

    Beyond nice.

  • @ancientheroes8976
    @ancientheroes8976 7 років тому +8

    i don't even need to watch whole video.Liked instantly.

    • @raymondnewbill2748
      @raymondnewbill2748 5 років тому

      @gilbert martinez for real!!! What if this video sucked, he would have liked a video on the internet that he didn't actually like. What a tragedy!!! For real though, I don't even know why people bother making comments about how much the suck the dick of some UA-camrs LMAO

  • @monfrancaisaccount69monfra8
    @monfrancaisaccount69monfra8 6 років тому

    Dios amazing job guys

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  6 років тому

      Thanks! A ton of content coming very soon, stay tuned!

  • @EdPrscheTurbo
    @EdPrscheTurbo 6 років тому +1

    Great mods on already an awesome car. As a very satisfied Cayman S owner I can only imagine how the GT4 performs with your mods.

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  6 років тому

      Thanks Ed - as you can imagine, the current set up I have on the GT4 is about as good as it gets. Every time I give it a good drive on street or track it really blows me away how good it is and is truly to this day, one of the best cars I have ever driven. - J

  • @sidpandya6827
    @sidpandya6827 7 років тому +1

    How tf do these guys only have 35k subs... HOW?!! This is million dollar content right here!!

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  7 років тому +1

      Thank you Sid! Let your friends know about us and hope you are subbed... we have some amazing new videos on deck!

  • @atalayo3o0o
    @atalayo3o0o 7 років тому +2

    i drive my porsche like a limo, i only care about 0-60 mph., thats why i love pdk. nice video editing, keep up the quality...

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  7 років тому

      Thank you Atalay - will do and hope you are subbed, more great videos to come!

  • @carlitoxb110
    @carlitoxb110 7 років тому +1

    Dios mío this Chanel is savage

  • @c56791
    @c56791 7 років тому +1

    The quality of these videos is incredible. Keep them coming please!

  • @MattGreenland
    @MattGreenland 6 років тому +2

    Thank god it's not PDK! A true drivers car!

  •  7 років тому +7

    really great review!

  • @ThaCuDiKiD
    @ThaCuDiKiD 7 років тому +3

    Subbed fo sho

  • @leomendes135
    @leomendes135 7 років тому +1

    Goddamn it!! im in love with this car, well made!!

  • @maxfps
    @maxfps 7 років тому +1

    Best Supercar channel!!!

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  7 років тому +1

      Thank you Rodrigo - we have much more to come - stay tuned!

  • @leonotonglo4461
    @leonotonglo4461 7 років тому +1

    The best sports car in my opinion, mid-engined, naturally aspirated, GT3 suspension and a MANUAL gearbox !!!!!

  • @geoffreybrown4536
    @geoffreybrown4536 7 років тому

    Production is spot on as always! My only issue is how can you give honest feedback about the owner/host personal car? But I will reiterate that the visuals are legit!

  • @EL1TE348
    @EL1TE348 7 років тому +1

    dope

  • @Katsinum
    @Katsinum 7 років тому +4

    This channel is something else, still amazes me.

  • @akhilanraja3822
    @akhilanraja3822 4 роки тому

    Anyone know what rims/tires this car has?

  • @radost0514
    @radost0514 7 років тому +2

    and after 5-10 years the price will sky rock!

  • @hamie63_m
    @hamie63_m 6 років тому +1

    Wow man that does sound amazing. The flat six sounds for some reason never appeal to me. But this is so good!

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  6 років тому

      It's one of the best sounds for sure!

  • @TheAslakVind
    @TheAslakVind 6 років тому

    A shame you didn´t do the Sharkwerk smaller flywheel, and the new gearing. Nice car!

  • @arjittmalik123
    @arjittmalik123 7 років тому +1

    amazing paint job

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  7 років тому

      This is a wrap!

    • @arjittmalik123
      @arjittmalik123 7 років тому

      Targa Trophy okay. please make a video on Mercedes Amg Gt.

  • @elielmendez
    @elielmendez 7 років тому +1

    Where the hell did this channel come from??? I love it!

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  7 років тому

      elielmendez hope you are subbed, there is much more to come!

  • @lennertbontinck
    @lennertbontinck 7 років тому +1

    nice gt4 man! I've driven one (fully stock since it's from collector) on a rather small track and man it was amazing but the owner (who owns 70+ porsches) says it's a car that gets ''boring'' quickly. He was hooked when he got it but after 2 months he barely used it anymore, which in a way is a miracle since he drove it so much ditching all his other nice collector cars but also quite sad it looses the fun factor if driven to often. what I'm saying is: the gt4 is an amazing machine for car and Porsche enthusiasts but don't drive it to much or it will loose his charms...

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  7 років тому +1

      We feel you on this lennertbontinck!

    • @verweydc
      @verweydc 7 років тому +1

      I recently had my owners training day at the Porsche Silverstone Experience Centre in the UK, and my instructor (20+ years in Porsche motorsport) said the same thing funnily enough. I think it's the ultimate track weapon though! As a daily may become a grind as you mention in your video.

  • @TomCccog
    @TomCccog 4 роки тому

    Do you have a problem w emissions?

  • @DeFreitas18
    @DeFreitas18 7 років тому

    WOW.

  • @NieColall
    @NieColall 7 років тому

    Can't believe, you only got 35k subs.

  • @TAEbot
    @TAEbot 7 років тому +3

    So good to hear someone be real and say they would rather have the pdk over the manual... Sick & tired of these macho dudes that think they're pro-drivers screaming manual this, manual that blah blah blah!

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  7 років тому

      Let's be clear, we love both gearbox's. The bottom line is that it all comes down to personal preference. The manual vs. semi/automatic gearbox is a debate that will rage on for the test of time!

  • @detatos8961
    @detatos8961 7 років тому +1

    Again, another amazing video.. I don't understand how this channel only have 35 000 subscribers..

    • @TargaTrophy
      @TargaTrophy  7 років тому

      The subs are growing... Let your people know about our channel as we have some amazing new videos to come!

  • @fahass2
    @fahass2 7 років тому

    I don't think you can subjectively push your opinion on each other in terms of what is satisfying when it comes to a manual vs. a PDK. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Pre-DCT, the beauty of having a manual was to get away from the annoying automatics and have an engaging experience and shift better (i.e control shift points) and faster than automatic counterparts. Race car drivers for the longest time wanted fast transmission and because of that, it allowed them to focus more on the other aspects of racing. I've owned both - and I admire the engineering that goes into a DCT and the feel of being able to shift instantaneously all the time. It allows to me to be a faster driver. I don't think the educated and talented engineers who spent countless nights engineering these DCTs had the purpose of cursing the automative enthusiast. You all are acting like those people slaved away because they hate cars. It's freaking awesome to be able to blip a paddle and have the car instantly rev-match downshift. But still, a manual transmission is still a ton of fun. The only thing that isn't up for debate is how much faster these cars have become from just the adaptation of a PDK and that is commendable. Instead of bickering at each other - why not appreciate all the effort to make push forward an ancient technology. It blows my mind that we have transmissions in cars that shift so fast. And ironically, having driven manual it makes it that much more admirable when I get to experience a DCT because I know how much effort it takes to shift perfectly and fast all the time. Even a seasoned manual driver can not match the performance of a DCT.