[v2.1] The Sleeping Dragon of Watatsumi - A Genshin Impact Theory

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  • Опубліковано 5 жов 2021
  • In this video we investigate the origins Watatsumi Island, and the true reason behind Orobashi's attack on Narukami Island.
    (Well, we're theorizing. Close enough.)
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    (I spent way too long looking this up, so I'm sharing it.)
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  • @Ashikai
    @Ashikai  2 роки тому +470

    **VIDEO NOTES**
    - I forgot to mention and a few people brought it up, but when you're fishing the "koi" fish have a description that mentions they look a lot more like small dragons than fish. They really do look like little dragons.

    • @i3lului311
      @i3lului311 2 роки тому +24

      as a kokomi main i love rewatching this sm u did so great

    • @polineetz
      @polineetz 2 роки тому +27

      In Russian localization koi is literally named “fake dragon” lol
      But i prefer to play in English because it seems like Russian translation is translation of English translation of Chinese game

    • @Moikyuu
      @Moikyuu Рік тому +3

      Also, the item description for rusty koi (the blue ones) mention that they are sometimes termed "awakened dragons" and have strong will, willing to fight any who invade their territory for food. It says its a strong fighter with iron will and is given the nickname the "ironbone dragon", and will be the backbone of its species future revitalization. Thought that was interesting! Sounds like a certain maiden with strong prowess for military strategy and resource management. Sorry if you already covered this and i missed it.

  • @Gaphid
    @Gaphid 2 роки тому +1518

    This is the Kokomi will get buffed theory we never knew we needed.

    • @fawad9407
      @fawad9407 2 роки тому +23

      WHAT I WAS THINKING 😂

    • @YASQUEEN944
      @YASQUEEN944 2 роки тому +6

      Nooooooooo

    • @sumanths886
      @sumanths886 2 роки тому +31

      Just imagine of they change the talent from -100 crit rate to -25 it will be pog

    • @amsi4087
      @amsi4087 2 роки тому

      PLS WE NEED IT 😭😭😭

    • @cylyte2436
      @cylyte2436 2 роки тому

      YES

  • @albertosimoncello9045
    @albertosimoncello9045 2 роки тому +1239

    When Kokomi will evolve into a dragoness she will have 100% Crit rate instead of -100% and her ascension stat will be Crit dmg

    • @xenoemblem7
      @xenoemblem7 2 роки тому +57

      Copium, but good idea

    • @bio-knight
      @bio-knight 2 роки тому +50

      She will learn an other attack other than splash

    • @saberalter1586
      @saberalter1586 2 роки тому +58

      Kokomikarp is evolving!!! Kokomikarp evolved into Kokomirados!!!
      Kokomirados learned Hydro Beam!!!

    • @xdsmile5359
      @xdsmile5359 2 роки тому +7

      I'm gonna need more copuim

    • @108_Dev
      @108_Dev 2 роки тому +2

      @@bio-knight may be dragon tail or iron tail😆😜

  • @JeronisLeror
    @JeronisLeror 2 роки тому +848

    It makes sense now. Kokomi is a shiny Magikarp. In every sense. A 5 star, (Shiny) Water-Type, that can only learn Splash, in a world where splash can damage or heal that, if constellations are maxed, is pretty formidable in her own right, (Gyrados)

    • @mcdance21
      @mcdance21 2 роки тому +22

      SHINY MAGIKARP JAAJSJ

    • @michaelwolfcub3555
      @michaelwolfcub3555 2 роки тому +12

      I would like to add that the dragonheir might be sealed under the coral filled coiled up dead skin of orobashi, since snakes do shed skin and it would make sense as to why the snake looked pristine when fighting ball.

    • @teukucutrakhman265
      @teukucutrakhman265 2 роки тому +6

      @@michaelwolfcub3555 "Fighting Ball..."
      Verdammt noch mal dieser Clown sagt.... ಠ_ಠ

  • @swtormadness
    @swtormadness 2 роки тому +210

    For a second I got reminded about how Dvalin fought Durin and kind of "inherited" his "disease" which manifested as a neck pain. It made me wonder if Orobashi's battle with the Watatsumi could perhaps have similar associations.

  • @GeneSysFNLT
    @GeneSysFNLT 2 роки тому +261

    I get the feeling that some time down the road, MiHoYo's going to make us revisit all the regions we've been to. Mostly because Honkai Impact 3rd's story is obscenely long. But if the same were to happen with Genshin, I'd imagine we'd get more in-depth with stories like Kokomi's and Watatsumi. The fact that they didn't give us a deeper questline for Watatsumi's story, feels like they're saying "put a pin on that because we're coming back to that later." At least that's what I'm hoping for. I would like to see the writers give Genshin the same level of love that they gave Honkai Impact.

    • @clover.8147
      @clover.8147 2 роки тому +7

      Same... Honkai is made with love. In other hand, Genshin... No love. And that's sad qwq

    • @seraph1690
      @seraph1690 2 роки тому +4

      @@clover.8147 I think it is mostly that u started playing honkai 1 year or 2 after its release, if you join right now there is a ton but a ton of things to do, main story, side stories, challenges, abyss, sruff like domains to farm materials, minigames, I mean, sometimes you even dont know what currencies come from where

    • @dione__fernnn
      @dione__fernnn 2 роки тому +4

      fun fact, theres a LEAK abt how enkanomiya will be released before the chasm in 2.4, and will have a weird time cycle/ :P

  • @hannainari5046
    @hannainari5046 2 роки тому +535

    So nice to see someone else delving into the Kokomi and Watatsumi lore! I didn't go as deep because I have no idea about mythology but I was convinced that Kokomi is in fact either a deity reincarnated or at least has some of the powers of her ancestors from the bottom of the sea and that we will learn her secret origin in this update, from her character story and her profile. So much for that, I was destroyed by the fact that there was nothing about it in the game. Now you're giving me hope again.

    • @Ashikai
      @Ashikai  2 роки тому +121

      Mood. Her character stories were such a let down. They told us absolutely nothing.

    • @uhhuh4989
      @uhhuh4989 2 роки тому +39

      Haha, honestly, I initially thought her energy calculation system was closely tied to her biology: maybe something related to her ekanomiya heritage. However, it turned out to be a 'character quirk'. So much for that.

    • @cinamoonmoon5166
      @cinamoonmoon5166 2 роки тому +39

      i just realize kokomi has 2 different hair color.... just like other archons lol

    • @beashemmad.sayson545
      @beashemmad.sayson545 2 роки тому +6

      @@cinamoonmoon5166 this

    • @littlegreenclementine
      @littlegreenclementine 2 роки тому +2

      since the sakura tree lvl max is 40 in 2.2 and the cap for the tree is 50(+?), i think it's safe to say that the next patch will revisit the main islands or watatsumi

  • @shichika4888
    @shichika4888 2 роки тому +236

    There are two NPC that shared a bit about the history of the Watatsumi island. One is a researcher from Sumeru and the other one is a shrine maiden of Sangonomiya shrine. Your theory is almost similar to that researcher's conclusion.

    • @Videl390
      @Videl390 2 роки тому +1

      What? who is the researcher?? :o

    • @vladixice
      @vladixice 2 роки тому +22

      @@Videl390 It was Kaushik he’s near the Archon’s Statue

    • @Sacration
      @Sacration 2 роки тому +18

      @@vladixice Yeah the Guy who talks about Watatsumi having two gods

    • @lilycha9398
      @lilycha9398 2 роки тому +5

      I think it's kinda funny that you said this because the shrine maiden said not to trust Kaushik as he basically spreads misinformation.

  • @billcosbee2057
    @billcosbee2057 2 роки тому +242

    There's one other thing about Orobashi being based off of Yamata no Orochi that I think needs mentioning-I saw that the little text on Raiden's polearm, the Engulfing Lightning, calls it "a naginata used to cut grass." I think this was a pretty direct reference to the Kusanagi no Tsurugi, also known as "grass cutter," which incidentally was the blade used to slay the evil Orochi. Just thought that it was a neat little detail they left in to make the mythological parallels a lot clearer.
    Another amazing video btw! I honestly never paid that much attention to Kokomi after feeling underwhelmed from her kit (Mihoyo pls buff T^T), so seeing the info you presented here makes me appreciate the work that went into her design and how she ties into the lore at large that much more. You and the rest of the lore seekers are a healthy breath of fresh air in a community as massive and overwhelming as Genshin's, so I appreciate what you guys bring to the table.
    Always looking forward to your next vid! Cheers~!

    • @Ashikai
      @Ashikai  2 роки тому +33

      Oh snap you're right! Lemme add that to the pinned comments.

    • @winnie7668
      @winnie7668 2 роки тому +4

      According to that legend, didn't Susanoo pull a sword out of Orochi? I'd like to think there'd be a future event + event weapon in relation to this!

    • @sridharhimane150
      @sridharhimane150 2 роки тому +16

      Funnily enough, Engulfing Lightning used to be called Grasscutter's Light before release, so you're probably right

    • @gmann215
      @gmann215 2 роки тому +1

      Also, I'm pretty sure the polearm is named Kusanagi in the Japanese translation.

    • @SayOye11
      @SayOye11 2 роки тому +1

      @@sridharhimane150 in Portuguese it is, still, "Luz do Cortador da Grama" (Grasscutter's Light). Maybe some of the original names were changed in the english translation idk why tho

  • @kokolio4453
    @kokolio4453 2 роки тому +68

    someone drew that picture of a puppy kissing a khoi fish, as Gorou and kokomi..it's amazing how it fits so well now that kokomi is ACTUALLY based on khoi fish smh

  • @billcosbee2057
    @billcosbee2057 2 роки тому +76

    Can't believe the demon Orobashi might've been named after is some kinda Bojack Horseman lookin dude lmao

  • @meep9873
    @meep9873 2 роки тому +421

    Hyped for more story time with Yanfei!

    • @donjuan9952
      @donjuan9952 2 роки тому +2

      Is she really yanfei VA?

    • @bigchungus2667
      @bigchungus2667 2 роки тому +70

      @@donjuan9952 nah we just call her yanfei bc she sounds a lot like yanfei!

    • @donjuan9952
      @donjuan9952 2 роки тому

      @@bigchungus2667 i got it. her sounds so similar to yanfei.

    • @Chopsparillo
      @Chopsparillo 2 роки тому +26

      @@donjuan9952 she also uses Yanfei to represent herself in videos

    • @roborai9492
      @roborai9492 2 роки тому

      @@Chopsparillo who, ashikai?

  • @Tectone
    @Tectone 2 роки тому +48

    bro ur too good at theories because i have no idea what the f*** is happening in this game but yeah sure dude magikarp turned into the dead dragon that kokomi sleeps on that makes sense when u say it KEK

  • @mbuhhh3605
    @mbuhhh3605 2 роки тому +55

    Fascinating theory.
    I just remembered her elemental burst is called nereid's ascension. I thought that was just kokomi awakening her dormant sea faery power, for those who doesn't know nereid is sea nymph (nymph = fairy). Fairy = Seelie too. There is also a mention that said teyvat's seelie once lived near enkonomiya, even more fascinating, isn't it?
    Now if we tie the eastern myth to greek myth, and other myths. Nereid do can ascend to minor sea goddess, which can ascend to greater sea goddess, poseidon's wife used to be a nereid before she become the greatest sea goddess. This makes me think that nereid's ascension is not she is awakening her dormant nereid power, but she is already a nereid starting her first step of ascension to be a water dragon one day.
    Another interesting things to consider is, faery or seelie or sidhe, often have their dark and light community, like seelie and unseelie, summer fae and winter fae, etc, or light elves and dark elves, they are basically the same thing. What if the people of the deeps in sangonomiya is the light version and there are their cousin still in enkonomiya

  • @igorp.4450
    @igorp.4450 2 роки тому +521

    When genshin theories become better then the actuall plot

  • @Daniele-PierreDuLac
    @Daniele-PierreDuLac 2 роки тому +84

    I wonder if there’s anything left of Makoto? I would imagine that Ei would be relentless in her attempts to put her sister back together.

    • @ashutoshpardeshi3035
      @ashutoshpardeshi3035 2 роки тому +50

      I think Makato got transformed into the Sakura tree at Narukami Island. One can also note that the Sakura Tree absorbs and tries to contain the impurity that affects Inazuma, similar to Makato's desire to protect her homeland.

    • @NNNN-rt5ww
      @NNNN-rt5ww 2 роки тому +29

      In Ei's voicelines, you'll notice that she often talks about Makoto and refers to her sister as "she" "her". She also mentioned that "she" became the sacred sakura tree and that is a form of eternity. So I believe either Makoto got absorbed, became the tree itself, or became the source of divine power of the tree. I don't know depths of Inazuma lore so this is what I speculate.

    • @kinggecko503
      @kinggecko503 2 роки тому +8

      @@ashutoshpardeshi3035 this aged well

  • @muir9257
    @muir9257 2 роки тому +94

    ashi: "She is a dragon priestess, the heir of the dragon, a dragonair!!!"
    me: *DRAGON BOOOORRRNNNNN!!!!!!* *skyrim theme plays intensely .*

  • @marcopolo3831
    @marcopolo3831 2 роки тому +73

    Im convinced, it makes way too much sense.
    Even the male Sumeru researcher on watatsumi theorized the were two gods instead of only Orobashi
    or something along those lines and he was called a heretic/blasphemous by the shrine maiden.
    I think he was on to something and so are you.
    Should have been titled "Why Kokomi is a sentient Magikarp" A Speculative Analysis.
    10/10
    great video.

  • @hausofsexual
    @hausofsexual 2 роки тому +38

    There is a researcher by the name of Kushik from Sumeru to the right of the Watatsumi Statue Of The Seven and he says that the Snake slain by Raiden and Watatsumi Omikami are two different snakes because there are two different kind of scales or something idk I just wanted to put that out

  • @DerillPlays
    @DerillPlays 2 роки тому +205

    Theory: Ei and Orabashi is just acting the war. Orabashi wanted to act invading Ei's boundary so Merman's won't be angry at Ei for killing their deity. God can't be killed entirely, Just like Guizhong, Havria, Osial, Chi, Guoba, Andrius. Orabashi Turned into Changsheng and hide his presence from something or someone like Dark abyss. Also, Oz is the thunderbird!

    • @salceds
      @salceds 2 роки тому +30

      Cut the cameras.....................

    • @DerillPlays
      @DerillPlays 2 роки тому +1

      @@salceds Whut? 😗

    • @godsoffice5714
      @godsoffice5714 2 роки тому +60

      Oz is the Thunderbird? I thought he was manifested from Fischl Joestars imagination.

    • @Chopsparillo
      @Chopsparillo 2 роки тому +48

      @@godsoffice5714 he is, probably. But it’s entirely plausible that Oz was instead summoned and not created by fischl’s vision.

    • @L16htW4rr10r
      @L16htW4rr10r 2 роки тому +38

      The Thunderbird did kill a whole island because they sacrificed the boy he liked.

  • @Glamorousguts677
    @Glamorousguts677 2 роки тому +43

    Imagine if Kokomi gets evolved like a pokemon and gets buffed in game.

  • @MIKEHUNT7531
    @MIKEHUNT7531 2 роки тому +218

    lol Genshin has quite a few chars that are set up to get some crazy power boosted forms. Maybe we will get awakenings or a seperate skill tree to unlock better moves down the line.
    Noel is a prime candiate. She has Tons of power but lacks experience. I suspect when she becomes a Full Blown Knight she will be something else.
    Lisa is clearly not fighting at full power (and might die someday soon)
    Kokomi a dragon waiting to be awoken? (makes me want an awakening mechanic even more.)
    Xiangling holds adeptal affinity?? Gouba USED to be stove god?

    • @seeh7775
      @seeh7775 2 роки тому +60

      Albedo kinda promises us to go rogue and destroy Mondstadt

    • @muir9257
      @muir9257 2 роки тому +56

      @@seeh7775 and kaeya will one day have to choose between mondstadt and kaenriah... and we will then know what the hell he has under his eyepatch and why he has it covered. maybe its like one of those anime thingies that supress a character's power?? lmaoooo
      there's a lot of characters that would be very cool to see what happens to them if mihoyo thinks of implementing such a mechanic like this one!!!!

    • @thechadford8572
      @thechadford8572 2 роки тому +25

      Ningguang may be a reincarnated Archon.

    • @YASQUEEN944
      @YASQUEEN944 2 роки тому

      No

    • @MIKEHUNT7531
      @MIKEHUNT7531 2 роки тому +18

      @@muir9257 Yes Kaeya almost forgot about him! And Ashikai did her theory on hilicurl masks and eyes. Kaeya's Eye is probably special. I know under the mask Mihoyo didn't texture it at all so its most likely different than his other in some way. Can't wait to find out.

  • @archcm8667
    @archcm8667 2 роки тому +18

    The kokomi theory makes more sense now. Kois are also viewed as majestic and beautiful creature. He design is literally like that. Like she was advertised for the looks rather than abilities as well. I do hope that before Sumeru comes out, we get to go to enkanomiya tho

  • @bobolobo688
    @bobolobo688 2 роки тому +55

    The makes a lot of sense too because of Kokomi’s divine blood. It seems more fitting for that blood to be connected to their original deity of the Dark Sea than Orobaxi, which arrived their long after the original Watatsumi natives were established

  • @zee.mp4
    @zee.mp4 2 роки тому +77

    i remember watching klementime's video about kokomi, mentioning that her constellation could mean "sleeping dragon".

    • @apollo6662
      @apollo6662 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah it's literally Latin for Sleeping Dragon: Dracaena solomneta

    • @zee.mp4
      @zee.mp4 2 роки тому

      @@apollo6662 yeah, ik-

  • @TheCheeseman1983
    @TheCheeseman1983 2 роки тому +36

    Very interesting! I love the koi and dragon connection, very astute! I’m not sold on the island itself being the body of a fallen god, since it looks like rock to me, but it’s definitely a possibility. I’m really looking forward to getting the chance to go down there, as that world quest basically guarantees we will be, in the foreseeable future. I’m hoping it’s some kind of Dragon Palace, maybe with a new world or weekly boss!
    An entire underwater region to explore would be amazing, but even just a cool looking domain or boss arena would suffice.
    I feel like the Dark Sea is a very intriguing and mysterious region. Sadly, it is often conflated with the Abyss, mostly due to the word “abyss” being used to describe the deep ocean, but I feel like there is a lot to explore there. Fighting back the invasion of sea monsters in Liyue was a major event that left a lasting impression on Zhongli, and it’s supposedly where the defeated gods in the Archon Wars fled to, being outside the jurisdiction of the Seven. Perhaps we will venture out into that unknown region in the future, after the Teyvat Chapter is concluded.

  • @judesliggoo
    @judesliggoo 2 роки тому +10

    I also love how we're getting lore about magikarps at the end

  • @Tectone
    @Tectone 2 роки тому +30

    maybe in fact genshin IS pokemon

  • @Hufflepufftuff247
    @Hufflepufftuff247 2 роки тому +28

    I absolutely love this. Has a feeling with the info sprinkled around the island but you put it so concisely.
    This is so much better than the current story telling. Keep doing what you're doing. And as a kokomi player, thank you!

    • @Hufflepufftuff247
      @Hufflepufftuff247 2 роки тому

      Does the lore from Everlasting Moonglow add anything interesting to your theory?

  • @CapriciousRhapsody
    @CapriciousRhapsody 2 роки тому +372

    Wait a minute...
    Now that I think of it, Childe used the Sigils of Permission to....... huh.
    I wonder if other archons have different ways to handle opposing gods. Compared to Venti and Ei, Zhongli was probably the most thorough of the three so far in terms of "cleaning house." I mean, he even had five yasha help him contain the lingering rage, sealed two of his fallen foes, and personally held funerary rites of his fallen adepti and gods.
    I wonder if he personally ensures their souls are forever unable to rejoin their body. And that's what the sigils of permissions were originally meant for: As protective charms and wards. They may have just evolved into symbols of Morax's trust.
    I dunno it's just a theory.
    A LAME Theory!
    Thanks for watching!

    • @YASQUEEN944
      @YASQUEEN944 2 роки тому +1

      No

    • @winnie7668
      @winnie7668 2 роки тому +31

      Venti didn't have to deal with any gods, the only non human threat he subdued was Durin who he conveniently and effectively buried under Dragonspine

    • @jalenjordan8464
      @jalenjordan8464 2 роки тому +29

      Slight misunderstanding, there were dozens of yaksha. Five of them were just the strongest. Xiao and the other four.

    • @khrow83
      @khrow83 2 роки тому +39

      @@winnie7668 Actually there were other gods. However he made peace with them and they became his allies and agreed to protect Mondstadt. You've met and fought 2 of them every week since the game launched. Dvalin and Andrius. Both were gods and originally were going to fight Venti, however like the bard he is he chose a more peaceful cooperative solution.

    • @winnie7668
      @winnie7668 2 роки тому +14

      @@khrow83 Andrius I know about, he was a God, but idk about Dvalin being one. That's interesting. Is Dvalin a demon god in the Ars Goetia? That could help us identify him.

  • @alial-kateeb5267
    @alial-kateeb5267 2 роки тому +28

    kokomi will start dealing damage when she evolve into a dragoness i guess on the other hand are there any mention of a wind got in inazuma so far?

  • @nara-yana
    @nara-yana 2 роки тому +26

    Been thinking 'bout some random thematic connections between _Erosion/Corrosion,_ the _Dark Sea_ and the _Abyss:_
    Erosion seemingly leads to a loss of *self* and *identity;* beings "from" the Abyss (mostly "cursed" after the fall of Khaenri'ah) seemingly lose (or simply don't express, for yet unknown reasons) their *individuality* and any features related to that - mostly notable, they don't have a "face" per se, being identical to any other of similar power on their hierarchy (Hili, Mita, Lawa, Sama churls)... they lose reason and become pure reason and sentiment - strong negative feelings lingering on and becoming curses (?);
    ...From what little we know of the *Art of Khemia,* it seems almost impossible to grow food and plants (or simply for "spontaneous", naturally-occurring life to thrive) inside of the Abyss... This would funnily justify why the Unusual Hilichurl carries a suitcase full of Cabbages (to smuggle into the Abyss with his portal, then get rich heh) and make that random book from Raiden's "Hangout" event, _"The Good Thing About Being Reincarnated as a Hilichurl Is That I Only Need to Eat Sunsettias to Become Stronger"_ strangely *canon* as, maybe, Hilichurls who finally stop being picky about just eating meat to then gobble their vegetables like little kids power up into Mitachurls, LOL (this also "explains" why there are so many vegetables on the boxes around Hilichurl bases? ahahaha)...
    ...but the point here being that *food decay* is a theme to both the Abyss and the Dark Sea (even if, in the case of Sangonomiya Island vs. Enkanomiya, it is because the body and soul of "God Gyarados" periodically want to reunite and then nutrients get sapped from Kokomi home's soil and whatnot)...
    ...It's almost like we have a closed loop of *Life* (thriving in Teyvat) and *Death/Decay* (central at the Abyss and maybe also on the Dark Sea) creeping everywhere we look? Dunno how much this _natural order_ of things _(life, reproduction, death, rebirth or new life)_ corresponds or relates to the seemingly-warped vision and rule held by Celestia through the *Heavenly Principles* (as in, _progress_ or some other arbitrary metric is used to periodically "reset" entire civilizations?);
    ... This could relate to the Dendro Archon in some way, too... as Fungi are associated with that passage from "death" into new life which closes the cycle? I don't even know what I am going about RN but damn, your video was good Ashikai. :P

  • @Moshi_Mochi
    @Moshi_Mochi 2 роки тому +11

    The dark sea could be a very interesting plot device Mihoyo can employ. A place where fallen gods reside, and a place that was inhabited by the Seelies. It makes me wonder if the people of Khaenri'ah were originally people of the Dark Sea, and if it was, could that be another reason why to the gods of Celestia dislike the people of Khaenri'ah. Maybe the Dark Sea is where the knowledge of the people of Khaneri'ah came from, maybe their knowledge came from the fallen gods of the Dark Sea.

  • @Kodaku1821
    @Kodaku1821 2 роки тому +15

    TL;DR: a synopsis on the corruption of Xiao or, rather, the lack thereof
    here's what's interesting about Xiao, he DID begin to succumb to his karmic debt, enough debt that he could never pay off, so much it was literally ACTUALLY eating away at his body, mind, and soul
    he crumpled under
    this is likely due to a tiny slip up by Xiao, he allowed himself to be made vulnerable by a passing thought, that, as he left the battle he was not returning home, simply leaving the battlefield, that no one would be there to defend him as he did for humanity since his tenure as a Yaksha
    all at once Xiao falls upon the ground, in soul rending pain, consumed by the millennia of accumulated hatred DESPITE the only thing that saved him all these years: he never felt HATRED
    THAT is what it hinged on, HATRED, ANGER
    and one of the only things that saved Xiao, was VENTI, playing the flute in the distance, mollifying his pain in an instant by soothing his turbulent soul
    when we saw this with the other Yakshas there was no one to stop their anger and with no one to save them from that degradation, they became lost in the sea of karmic hatred that haunts Teyvat to this very day
    Xiao is alive and sane for only a very few amount of reasons, he never succumbed to hatred, and his soul was quelled by the soft flute that played until dawn
    allowing Xiao to rise again, and a couple things i mention below
    thats why he's still functioning, thats why he never lost his mind or body, the karma was eating him and still is tainting him, but his inner peacefulness AND his combination of curiousity and softness to mortals, to humans, to Liyue, kept him whole
    Xiao is cold solely because he fears this weakness, or rather his past as a playtoy and his karmic burden, he hides this about himself
    his real nature, his GENTLE nature, his curiosity, his inner stability, and Venti all in combination is why Xiao is not lost to whatever you want to call this process
    you ARE right, Xiao is and always was built different, this was always the case, he was so powerful, so special, the ADEPTI THEMSELVES, INCLUDING the mightiest of all, Morax, ACCEPTED HIM AS THEIR OWN and acknowledged this unfaltering strength
    Xiao is much like his laterns, his inner fire that keeps him sustained above ground, elevates and illuminates him, he is not tethered by anger, but his hard earned freedom, much like Venti a pure child of freedom who was the second being to free him from chains

    • @UberWraith
      @UberWraith 2 роки тому +2

      And that would be the reason why the Traveler fainted in the Delusion Factory. He was succumbing to his rage against the Fatui for what they did to the Resistance and Teppei (with Scaramouche making fun of them just to ignite that rage) and that started to ignite the power of the grudge itself, but since s/he him/herself is immune due to his/her natural ability to purify it, simply lost consciousness while his/her immune system was purifying the grudge.

    • @Kodaku1821
      @Kodaku1821 2 роки тому +1

      @@UberWraith 100%

  • @Nataninko
    @Nataninko 2 роки тому +44

    I wonder if we'll learn the reason why Orobochi attacked in the 6th island.

    • @anniimi
      @anniimi 2 роки тому

      rlly dont wanna be that guy but its orobashi >_

    • @Nataninko
      @Nataninko 2 роки тому

      @@anniimi ah ok.

    • @doplop
      @doplop 2 роки тому +1

      @@anniimi wait isn't it orobashi ,,

    • @anniimi
      @anniimi 2 роки тому

      @@doplop yeah i was thinking of smt else at the time

    • @icetea975
      @icetea975 2 роки тому +7

      @@doplop in 2.0 i thought it was orobashi but then everyone started writing it like orobaxi for some reason

  • @nox1738
    @nox1738 2 роки тому +10

    Welp and we can't forget that the islands where the shrines are (the ones that need cleansing) have a very unique form, like the "Tail of Watatsumi" shrine that looks like a huge fish tail and the same with the other "parts" (eye, fang and fin)
    So for me it makes sense that watatsumi is the corpse of a God, Humm 🤔

  • @midnightrhitta5087
    @midnightrhitta5087 2 роки тому +5

    I am in love with how you turn my skepticism from the start of the video into belief by the end of the video. Thank you so much for your time and effort in making these lore-stuffed videos! I keep looking forward to them :)

  • @secondlust3042
    @secondlust3042 2 роки тому +8

    This is so beautiful. This made so much sense, I was really confused as to why a benevolent god would harm others. Also, Ei witnessing what erosion can do, even to a loving god, just added more to her fear of being eroded.
    Also, you just convinced me to pull for Kokomi. Wish me luckkkk~

  • @jeanpierreruiz6393
    @jeanpierreruiz6393 2 роки тому +11

    This reminds me of Mesopotamian myth and Marduk. The sons of the gods once slayed their father, and used their body as a home. Tiamat, who grew mad, tried to kill all of them only for the gods to be guided by Marduk and slay her instead, creating the earth and sky.

  • @dionysus9425
    @dionysus9425 2 роки тому +14

    Once again im out here making connections to SU....dragon heir is like the cluster trying to reform itself. That aside, its honestly interesting how the gods from the archon war never really 'died' I didn't really give it much thought until now and will be paying more attention in story quests to come

  • @williamg5495
    @williamg5495 2 роки тому +8

    I'm hoping that kokomi gain some importance in some new content in genshin .... They said she is a great strategist but she didn't get a big participation in 2.0 and 2.1, even in her story quest. It would be nice to see her like ningguang act in the leyue quest.

  • @EmmanuelMarin07
    @EmmanuelMarin07 2 роки тому +58

    As you touched upon in this video, gods and other god-like beings in Genshin will eventually succumb to 'erosion' one day
    Zhongli has entrusted Liyue to its people, the Shogun meditates to stave off that erosion... but what of Venti though?
    Venti was just a wind spirit once upon a time; is he susceptible to erosion as well?

    • @Ashikai
      @Ashikai  2 роки тому +59

      That's probably why he sleeps for hundreds of years at a time, yeah.

    • @somnathghosh2671
      @somnathghosh2671 2 роки тому +5

      @@Ashikai Wait, Ashikai, I find a similarity here, remember Jirachi from Pokemon? Sleeping a thousand years, grants wishes? Am I going somewhere with this?

    • @thepresence5041
      @thepresence5041 2 роки тому +6

      @@somnathghosh2671 no... Pokemon logic is way different. Specially legendary and mythical Pokemons

    • @silverstuff1146
      @silverstuff1146 2 роки тому +31

      Venti also doesnt rule his people directly, making him a weak god, so maybe its the immense power itself that causes erosion, since delusions feed on life force, maybe gods powers make people angry and feed off of gods emotions and memories because gods cant age like humans do because the gods can shapeshift.

  • @wouldyouliketomeetkenbamba9495
    @wouldyouliketomeetkenbamba9495 2 роки тому +10

    Everytime i hear you say "Lingering Hatred" i instinctively chide "Karma..."
    Splendid video as always, mate. I am just too lazy to involve real world sources (Sola-Scriptura moment) so your video really helps me see things in new light.

  • @sulaimanmhashim
    @sulaimanmhashim 10 місяців тому +6

    Soooo.... does neuvilette being the hydro sovereign affect the trout population of this theory...

  • @stephendragon6212
    @stephendragon6212 2 роки тому +4

    Genshin really knows how to keep the suspense... Like they're not showing what the stones in watatsumi are supposed to be used for. Also, now it kinda makes sense. Why kokomi didn't get much screen time during the archon quest. The quest was mostly centered on raiden and narukami... They'll probably reveal all the cards later and make kokomi the central figure. This division make sense too based on geography since Inazuma is an archipelago. Narukami and Watatsumi are like different worlds. Narukami is like the "central" , the mainland ... when one says inazuman.. it's likely to point to a narukami local... The people on the Watatsumi on the other hand are from the provinces... With their different culture and leadership.

  • @storm_1784
    @storm_1784 2 роки тому +3

    After reading the description of the new vishaps, in relation to the Seven primordials, remembered this theory and thought about kokomi straight away

  • @ucmanhle9601
    @ucmanhle9601 2 роки тому +9

    Genshin has so many interesting hidden lore and history. If only the game can do a better job at telling it to us players.

  • @kobeferreras9798
    @kobeferreras9798 2 роки тому +3

    7:00 omg the reason why it doesnt align perfectly with kokomi's constellation is because its a sleeping dragon!! its more tucked in compared to the island version which is almost laid out and open bodies, signifying it is awake or 'ascended' perhaps

  • @forsaken1621
    @forsaken1621 2 роки тому +7

    "Oh No BuT GeNsHiN ImPaCt DoSeNt HaVe EnOuGh CoNtEnT"
    Jokes aside I am so excited for future updates since they teased that will be going to the dark sea/Enkonomiya. Throughout Inazuma I find Watatsumi Island's small lore so interesting since it reminds me of Atlantis and that one children fairy tail whose name I can't remember rn

  • @EmmanuelMarin07
    @EmmanuelMarin07 2 роки тому +6

    Another amazing video! Really makes me appreciate Watatsumi a lot more!

  • @icevee686
    @icevee686 2 роки тому +9

    17:20 imagine if Mihoyo removes the crit debuff from her the next day after her banner ends

    • @SeeTea13
      @SeeTea13 2 роки тому +1

      thats game breaking right

    • @icevee686
      @icevee686 2 роки тому

      @@SeeTea13 OH WELL 😩✋

  • @RagingSpartan24
    @RagingSpartan24 2 роки тому +6

    Another great video! The part about gods not being able to die got me wondering if Oz could be that bird we see get slain during Ei's flashback (well and also because of another thing I don't want to spoil for people who haven't seen it yet if you know what I mean).

  • @vishnuprasad3041
    @vishnuprasad3041 2 роки тому +4

    I think erosion can be seen as how humans experience deterioration when aging. Like Alzheimer's and dementia. Which is quite common. It makes them angry, confused and forgetful.

  • @kokolio4453
    @kokolio4453 2 роки тому +1

    this theory lowkey made me feel so emotional;; i LOVED every bit of it! thank u so much for putting out such amazing content, ashikai!

  • @acherthecat8316
    @acherthecat8316 2 роки тому +1

    I am seriously amazed because what you're saying, it all makes sense. Now that I think about it, corruption/erosion really is the underlying theme of the whole genshin lore. And about Kokomi being the heir of the dragon who was also the previous God of the enkonomiya folks who then went mad because of the corrosion, everything just clicked like while watching this video i kept saying "OHHH" it's just a good feeling.
    Great video!

  • @anyaaa2801
    @anyaaa2801 2 роки тому +3

    Kokomi being a sleeping dragon has become one of my favorite theory so far.

  • @deedlefake
    @deedlefake 2 роки тому +6

    The nostalgia trip from that Okami music...
    Also, fun fact: Sayu, who is always sleepy, has Crystal Marrow as an ascension material.

    • @Waterwolf221
      @Waterwolf221 2 роки тому +1

      Ikr. its making me want to play the game again for 100th time

  • @Kenji78
    @Kenji78 2 роки тому +15

    Can't wait for another banger

  • @lunaette
    @lunaette 9 місяців тому +7

    its kokover...

  • @dtell8275
    @dtell8275 2 роки тому +1

    Such a intriguing theory, love your content and I can never get enough of your videos.

  • @ashishitD
    @ashishitD 2 роки тому +2

    in a quest a researcher from SUMERU....KAUSHIK......told the traveller that ANCIENT INAZUMA HAD 2 SNAKE GODS...........1 gave had corals and so could not move after forming sanganomiya.....and its "true divine for dwelled in the encanomiya deep below foreer defending the people of watatsumi island"
    other snake god was ambisious and wanted narukami too and so fought raiden and was vut down by her(he was orobashi)
    HE SAID THIS WHILE IN THE QUEST WHEN ALRANI WHEN SHE CAME TO WATATSUMI ISLAND

  • @seriousspare4062
    @seriousspare4062 2 роки тому +4

    Girl Enkanomiya just confirmed this

  • @witchcandy3671
    @witchcandy3671 2 роки тому

    Brilliant work Ashikai! I've been waiting for someone to help put all the pieces together. Kokomi's constellation overlaying the island was a very nice Epiphany as well. Great work.

  • @Mr-Skoomanson
    @Mr-Skoomanson 2 роки тому +1

    Love your lore content one of the best genshin lore creators out there never lose your enthusiasm and have fun you are great!

  • @demonic_banshee
    @demonic_banshee 2 роки тому +1

    What a great theory! I love it :D I also love all the general lore, myths, history... so much to learn from you!!
    (Also: great use of the Ookami OST. Had to rewind some times, cause I focused too hard on the music, though x'D Ah, the nostalgia!)

  • @poubinghe
    @poubinghe 2 роки тому +1

    u r so good omg.. the fact that u made this in 2.1 is crazy.. thank u for this theory!

  • @cocoplayax
    @cocoplayax 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for your theories!! I super appreciate your deep dive and research about the lore that I would never even come to understand while playing the game.

  • @vinsterboy
    @vinsterboy 2 роки тому

    Great video and analysis! You got me hooked!

  • @callistephus42
    @callistephus42 2 роки тому +3

    Ahhh this is the kokomi lore we deserved but didn't get in game... I love this theory, thank you for making me love kokomi more

  • @josejulio3297
    @josejulio3297 2 роки тому +1

    Omg excelent video! Very very nice! I was hooked since min 0 to the end! Great job! I like kokomi. This story makes me like her even more.

  • @pablosierracarmona9402
    @pablosierracarmona9402 2 роки тому +1

    The theories, as always, amazing and beyond wonderful ^_^. But what really touched me were all those Okami soundtracks in the background. Literally started to tear up from the memories

  • @tyrokyu
    @tyrokyu 2 роки тому +1

    Your voice is so pleasing to hear...and your videos are so fun and...gosh thank you.

  • @strgz5329
    @strgz5329 2 роки тому +5

    i love this theory, and it sort of makes sense too, i guess?
    This also reminded me of the theory i saw, that the map of tevyat isnt actually being displayed correctly to us, the player, it mentions that the wolf of the north, should be in the north (on top of the map, instead of being in the center ish, at the time of the theory when only liyue and mondstadt were available), perhaps relating to that old theory/fact everyone seemed to have forgotten about, that tevyat is upside down and that something of a calamity turned it all upside down. Can't remember much of it now 😅

    • @hanako_2137
      @hanako_2137 2 роки тому +2

      It's never been said that Andrius has always resided in Wolvendom though, only that at some point in time he took up residence there.
      Also, him being "wolf of the north" of the Four Winds and "king of the north wind" might actually be more figurative than we think, because geographically they don't make sense even if we would flip the map upside down (because then the Temple of the Lion, and Lion was the southern wind, would be further up north than the temple dedicated to Lion of the North)
      It may just be more figurative, as in, Wolf of the North commanded the northern winds (which does fit, as "the northern winds" would most likely be cold winds, and Andrius with his winds did create a massive blizzard in almost the entirety of Mondstadt during his conflict with Decarabian), or the names could be representative of just a small portion of Mondstadt's geography, around Windrise - Temple of the Wolf is to the north of Windrise, Temple of the Lion is to it's south, Mondstadt and the Knights of Favonius (which according to Breeze Amidst the Forest is the Falcon of the West), and Dragon of the East would ofc be Dvalin, who can't really be pinpointed to a certain point honestly
      EDIT. There is also Temple of the Falcon very nearby Mondstadt city, to the west of Windrise, further helping my point

    • @strgz5329
      @strgz5329 2 роки тому

      @@hanako_2137 i think you missed the point there, the wolf was just an example, there were others in that theory but i can't remember them. The point was the calamity and the map potentially being displayed different than it really is.
      But yeah, its not confirmed so he might have just wandered into the place

  • @Ahriela
    @Ahriela 2 роки тому +8

    I can't wait for the upcoming 6-star, Kokomi: Dracaena Evigilanta or something. XD

  • @valicedans7954
    @valicedans7954 2 роки тому +1

    amazing video as always ashikai.

  • @alexpolicarpio5352
    @alexpolicarpio5352 2 роки тому

    This is some solid lore deep dive. I'm sold! Great job! 👏

  • @9990zara
    @9990zara 2 роки тому +1

    About Orobaxi, I got this idea from a comment on a different theory video: if being affected by godly remains is/is like abyssal corruption, what if Orobaxi was corrupted by godly remains? He would've gotten infected during his time on the Dark Sea, or maybe by the coral gifted to him.
    If the abyss were made of godly remains, then it means Childe has likely come into contact with them. We pretty much know abyssal influence is rampant on the boy, to the point his ambition changed from 'being a hero' to 'world domination' after falling to the abyss. Similar to how Orobaxi went from a protective deity to trying to takeover Inazuma. I feel like this might make sense, since the poster boy for erosion, Azhdaha, never went to conquer Liyue Harbor (iirc). he only hurt humans because he was hurt by them. this doesn't add up to Orobaxi's attack on Narukami, though he might have just attacked Ei so he doesn't hurt Sangonomiya, as you said.
    In any case, this is just an idea I had lol

  • @shulinoo
    @shulinoo 2 роки тому +2

    Love this theory!! the everlasting moonglow item lore also talks about watatsumi and th3ir divine priestess (it’s too difficult for me to understand but I think there’s some strong correlation to the points you made)

  • @bholluBhollu
    @bholluBhollu 2 роки тому +4

    Looking forward to it again as usual :)

  • @grizzy-thekiwi1144
    @grizzy-thekiwi1144 2 роки тому +3

    with enkonomiya out now i think this video needs a well deserved follow up

  • @pepschaepp5404
    @pepschaepp5404 2 роки тому

    Your deduction is brilliant as always 😁

  • @pm_davidjones
    @pm_davidjones 2 роки тому

    You are just amazing. I really enjoy these videos.

  • @zzZ-hp9je
    @zzZ-hp9je 2 роки тому +29

    Hi Ashi, in last video you referred paimon as the StarKeeper and it sounds interesting. But after what we have with guoba the god of stove, it becomes more and more likely that paimon is the Sustainer. Now we know that a god becomes smaller after losing its power, and paimon likes just like a young version of Sustainer. The Sustainer has the herrscher pupil while paimon's looks plain which might indicates the power they got. There is also an interesting pattern in Genshin scripts that the traveller meets people with hidden identity. We helped Zhongli to farewell Morax, we fought Azhdaha with Kunjun, we search for the god of stove with guoba nearby. See? We might be going for the Sustainer with paimon too.
    I once got very confused why the sustainer spared with the traveller's life if she was hostile. Maybe the Sustainer is "the keeper that is fading away", and she wanted the traveller to be "the creator that has not yet come. This also goes in line with the story of Genesis Pearl very well.

    • @Ashikai
      @Ashikai  2 роки тому +14

      I don't disagree but I don't understand why the event information makes it more likely that paimon is susty...

    • @zzZ-hp9je
      @zzZ-hp9je 2 роки тому

      @@Ashikai Because the event confirms that a god can lose part of its power then change its looking.

    • @Ashikai
      @Ashikai  2 роки тому +13

      @@zzZ-hp9je we already knew that though. The only thing the event confirmed is that gods can't be completely killed.

    • @hydraz6935
      @hydraz6935 2 роки тому +3

      Sustainer didn't spare traveller's life , she knew the traveller's potential so she sealed traveller

    • @zzZ-hp9je
      @zzZ-hp9je 2 роки тому +1

      @@Ashikai The part that gods can't be completely killed is doubting. The god of salt seemed to be dead completely, while some of her power remains.

  • @StardustAura
    @StardustAura 2 роки тому

    Love your theories~ you've got a new subscriber!

  • @toji3190
    @toji3190 2 роки тому +1

    Her videos are so easy to understand thanks for the Hard work

  • @fl_w6145
    @fl_w6145 2 роки тому

    and Ashikai does it again ! Your theories continue to make the lore more sense(even though its just a theory) :D thanks for this ! this was both entertaining and interesting to watch

  • @habadini
    @habadini 2 роки тому +2

    I just read a theory about kokomi (since i haven't done explore enkanomiya and i don't have kokomi). I remember this video, and ngl your your video is always awesome. The details info and the research, i love it Kokomi's constellation looks like the new vishap, i don't remember their name. Maybe the theory is true that kokomi is the descendant of the (whatever) vishap.

  • @haraa_5
    @haraa_5 2 роки тому +4

    So like Kaushik ( a scholar from Sumeru ) found near the electro archon statue on Watatsumi Island talks about his discovery of totems which shows 2 snake gods.
    Kaushik: My conclusion is that ancient Inazuma must have played host to two snake gods!
    Kaushik: One of them was enjoined with coral and could not move, thus creating Sangonomiya Shrine. Its true divine form dwelled within Enkanomiya deep below, forever defending the people of Watatsumi Island.
    Kaushik: As for the other snake god, it was a most ambitious being that dreamed of invading Narukami Island, but was cut down by the Electro Archon as it was making its way there.
    Kaushik: See? This totem shows snake patterns with coral on them on one end, and patterns that completely lack them on the other. And that's how you know this is the truth!

  • @sakurakei
    @sakurakei 2 роки тому +1

    Loved the use of the Okami OST and ingame clips.... very fitting haha!!

  • @caparashon
    @caparashon 2 роки тому +1

    Aaaaa the Okami OST and clips on this one!! It's my favorite game of all time so that made me happy. Also very on point since the Watatsumi island pastel coral aesthetic always reminded me of the Dragon Palace in Okami (fitting since king Wada aka the water dragon IS supposed to be based on myth Watatsumi)
    Excellent theory, there's definitely something fishy (hurr hurr) going on with Sangonomiya's shape and the inconsistencies of Orobaxi's story. Also, idk if you've touched it in another video but now that we're talking about tataragami and the evil the yakshas fight (both linked to plagues and disease in fact). I wonder if Decarabian's remains and wrath ever cause this grief in Mondstadt. I think the storms around Stormterror's Lair are part of that, the result of the explosion when he died similar to Havria's salt. But was that all? How did Barbatos handle it? Did he yeet it far? Did it cause disease and madness? I'd love to see a Mondstadt quest (Venti's second character quest?) where we touch upon that, because that country feels too peaceful a couple of rebellions aside.

  • @guilhermemazzon
    @guilhermemazzon 2 роки тому

    This is amazing! Great work!

  • @DracoSlayer
    @DracoSlayer 2 роки тому +3

    It's funny, I was actually talking with a friend of mine about Kokomi and the connections to Ryujin. For some extra tidbits I would like to add, Ryujin was also known to have lived at the bottom of the ocean, residing in a palace made of coral. As it happens, that is exactly what "Sangonomiya" means, "Coral palace." While Kokomi's name means "heart of the ocean," literally just combining 'kokoro' and 'umi' together. And from what I found online, it's also believed that "Owatatsumi-no-kami" was just another name _for_ Ryujin.
    (Usually in Japanese, whenever they add an 'o' it means "great." So if you've ever played Ookami, that's why there are two 'o' and not one. "Okami" means "wolf," but 'kami' also means 'god', so in a sense, the game's name is a bunch of wordplay for "great wolf god")

  • @HighLevelPlayer
    @HighLevelPlayer 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting. I don't know how you keep coming up with this stuff.

  • @junfusionseven9431
    @junfusionseven9431 2 роки тому

    very interensting i will love to hear more theories :D

  • @LivWho
    @LivWho 2 роки тому

    I really loves this theory sm!

  • @dearluciella5032
    @dearluciella5032 2 роки тому

    Beautiful theory, it brings me to tears.

  • @msz9363
    @msz9363 2 роки тому +1

    This theory, and that quest, reminded me of that one frame of the traveler drowning and the shadow of a big thing moving in the background way back in the 2.0 trailer. At that point I thought it was the Overlord of the Vortex, and a teaser for the continuation of We will be reunited, since we can all assume that the Abyss Order now has everything they need to go on with their plan of modifying the Overlord's body.
    I don't think they have used that footage anywhere in the game so far, so maybe they'll eventually use it in a quest related to Sangonomiya?? I'm pretty sure the Watatsumi priestess at the end of the quest said that one day she might need us to help her again. I would really like Enkonomiya to be some sort of expansion to Inazuma, like Dragonspine and the Chasm are to Mondstadt and Liyue

  • @phantomchaser0963
    @phantomchaser0963 2 роки тому

    New theory Pog, time to enjoy

  • @bootaodayo3373
    @bootaodayo3373 2 роки тому +1

    *"Not to change the subject, but also I'm changing the subject"*
    Well this is oddly relatable whenever I'm talking about a subject. Or every time I'm having mood swings which is mostly 70% of my life.

  • @HoodieSpirit
    @HoodieSpirit 2 роки тому

    I can't imagine how much brainstorming you need to think of this....
    Wonderful work!