**VIDEO NOTES** - I forgot to mention and a few people brought it up, but when you're fishing the "koi" fish have a description that mentions they look a lot more like small dragons than fish. They really do look like little dragons.
In Russian localization koi is literally named “fake dragon” lol But i prefer to play in English because it seems like Russian translation is translation of English translation of Chinese game
Also, the item description for rusty koi (the blue ones) mention that they are sometimes termed "awakened dragons" and have strong will, willing to fight any who invade their territory for food. It says its a strong fighter with iron will and is given the nickname the "ironbone dragon", and will be the backbone of its species future revitalization. Thought that was interesting! Sounds like a certain maiden with strong prowess for military strategy and resource management. Sorry if you already covered this and i missed it.
It makes sense now. Kokomi is a shiny Magikarp. In every sense. A 5 star, (Shiny) Water-Type, that can only learn Splash, in a world where splash can damage or heal that, if constellations are maxed, is pretty formidable in her own right, (Gyrados)
I would like to add that the dragonheir might be sealed under the coral filled coiled up dead skin of orobashi, since snakes do shed skin and it would make sense as to why the snake looked pristine when fighting ball.
bro ur too good at theories because i have no idea what the f*** is happening in this game but yeah sure dude magikarp turned into the dead dragon that kokomi sleeps on that makes sense when u say it KEK
I get the feeling that some time down the road, MiHoYo's going to make us revisit all the regions we've been to. Mostly because Honkai Impact 3rd's story is obscenely long. But if the same were to happen with Genshin, I'd imagine we'd get more in-depth with stories like Kokomi's and Watatsumi. The fact that they didn't give us a deeper questline for Watatsumi's story, feels like they're saying "put a pin on that because we're coming back to that later." At least that's what I'm hoping for. I would like to see the writers give Genshin the same level of love that they gave Honkai Impact.
@@clover.8147 I think it is mostly that u started playing honkai 1 year or 2 after its release, if you join right now there is a ton but a ton of things to do, main story, side stories, challenges, abyss, sruff like domains to farm materials, minigames, I mean, sometimes you even dont know what currencies come from where
For a second I got reminded about how Dvalin fought Durin and kind of "inherited" his "disease" which manifested as a neck pain. It made me wonder if Orobashi's battle with the Watatsumi could perhaps have similar associations.
So nice to see someone else delving into the Kokomi and Watatsumi lore! I didn't go as deep because I have no idea about mythology but I was convinced that Kokomi is in fact either a deity reincarnated or at least has some of the powers of her ancestors from the bottom of the sea and that we will learn her secret origin in this update, from her character story and her profile. So much for that, I was destroyed by the fact that there was nothing about it in the game. Now you're giving me hope again.
Haha, honestly, I initially thought her energy calculation system was closely tied to her biology: maybe something related to her ekanomiya heritage. However, it turned out to be a 'character quirk'. So much for that.
since the sakura tree lvl max is 40 in 2.2 and the cap for the tree is 50(+?), i think it's safe to say that the next patch will revisit the main islands or watatsumi
There are two NPC that shared a bit about the history of the Watatsumi island. One is a researcher from Sumeru and the other one is a shrine maiden of Sangonomiya shrine. Your theory is almost similar to that researcher's conclusion.
someone drew that picture of a puppy kissing a khoi fish, as Gorou and kokomi..it's amazing how it fits so well now that kokomi is ACTUALLY based on khoi fish smh
There's one other thing about Orobashi being based off of Yamata no Orochi that I think needs mentioning-I saw that the little text on Raiden's polearm, the Engulfing Lightning, calls it "a naginata used to cut grass." I think this was a pretty direct reference to the Kusanagi no Tsurugi, also known as "grass cutter," which incidentally was the blade used to slay the evil Orochi. Just thought that it was a neat little detail they left in to make the mythological parallels a lot clearer. Another amazing video btw! I honestly never paid that much attention to Kokomi after feeling underwhelmed from her kit (Mihoyo pls buff T^T), so seeing the info you presented here makes me appreciate the work that went into her design and how she ties into the lore at large that much more. You and the rest of the lore seekers are a healthy breath of fresh air in a community as massive and overwhelming as Genshin's, so I appreciate what you guys bring to the table. Always looking forward to your next vid! Cheers~!
@@sridharhimane150 in Portuguese it is, still, "Luz do Cortador da Grama" (Grasscutter's Light). Maybe some of the original names were changed in the english translation idk why tho
Theory: Ei and Orabashi is just acting the war. Orabashi wanted to act invading Ei's boundary so Merman's won't be angry at Ei for killing their deity. God can't be killed entirely, Just like Guizhong, Havria, Osial, Chi, Guoba, Andrius. Orabashi Turned into Changsheng and hide his presence from something or someone like Dark abyss. Also, Oz is the thunderbird!
lol Genshin has quite a few chars that are set up to get some crazy power boosted forms. Maybe we will get awakenings or a seperate skill tree to unlock better moves down the line. Noel is a prime candiate. She has Tons of power but lacks experience. I suspect when she becomes a Full Blown Knight she will be something else. Lisa is clearly not fighting at full power (and might die someday soon) Kokomi a dragon waiting to be awoken? (makes me want an awakening mechanic even more.) Xiangling holds adeptal affinity?? Gouba USED to be stove god?
@meri Yes Kaeya almost forgot about him! And Ashikai did her theory on hilicurl masks and eyes. Kaeya's Eye is probably special. I know under the mask Mihoyo didn't texture it at all so its most likely different than his other in some way. Can't wait to find out.
Then we also have characters capable of using both a vision and a delusion (Tartaglia) and even have transformations like Foul Legacy. God knows what the other Harbingers (minus "La Pot De Ashes" KEKW) can do.
Im convinced, it makes way too much sense. Even the male Sumeru researcher on watatsumi theorized the were two gods instead of only Orobashi or something along those lines and he was called a heretic/blasphemous by the shrine maiden. I think he was on to something and so are you. Should have been titled "Why Kokomi is a sentient Magikarp" A Speculative Analysis. 10/10 great video.
Wait a minute... Now that I think of it, Childe used the Sigils of Permission to....... huh. I wonder if other archons have different ways to handle opposing gods. Compared to Venti and Ei, Zhongli was probably the most thorough of the three so far in terms of "cleaning house." I mean, he even had five yasha help him contain the lingering rage, sealed two of his fallen foes, and personally held funerary rites of his fallen adepti and gods. I wonder if he personally ensures their souls are forever unable to rejoin their body. And that's what the sigils of permissions were originally meant for: As protective charms and wards. They may have just evolved into symbols of Morax's trust. I dunno it's just a theory. A LAME Theory! Thanks for watching!
@@winnie7668 Actually there were other gods. However he made peace with them and they became his allies and agreed to protect Mondstadt. You've met and fought 2 of them every week since the game launched. Dvalin and Andrius. Both were gods and originally were going to fight Venti, however like the bard he is he chose a more peaceful cooperative solution.
@@khrow83 Andrius I know about, he was a God, but idk about Dvalin being one. That's interesting. Is Dvalin a demon god in the Ars Goetia? That could help us identify him.
I think Makato got transformed into the Sakura tree at Narukami Island. One can also note that the Sakura Tree absorbs and tries to contain the impurity that affects Inazuma, similar to Makato's desire to protect her homeland.
In Ei's voicelines, you'll notice that she often talks about Makoto and refers to her sister as "she" "her". She also mentioned that "she" became the sacred sakura tree and that is a form of eternity. So I believe either Makoto got absorbed, became the tree itself, or became the source of divine power of the tree. I don't know depths of Inazuma lore so this is what I speculate.
Fascinating theory. I just remembered her elemental burst is called nereid's ascension. I thought that was just kokomi awakening her dormant sea faery power, for those who doesn't know nereid is sea nymph (nymph = fairy). Fairy = Seelie too. There is also a mention that said teyvat's seelie once lived near enkonomiya, even more fascinating, isn't it? Now if we tie the eastern myth to greek myth, and other myths. Nereid do can ascend to minor sea goddess, which can ascend to greater sea goddess, poseidon's wife used to be a nereid before she become the greatest sea goddess. This makes me think that nereid's ascension is not she is awakening her dormant nereid power, but she is already a nereid starting her first step of ascension to be a water dragon one day. Another interesting things to consider is, faery or seelie or sidhe, often have their dark and light community, like seelie and unseelie, summer fae and winter fae, etc, or light elves and dark elves, they are basically the same thing. What if the people of the deeps in sangonomiya is the light version and there are their cousin still in enkonomiya
The kokomi theory makes more sense now. Kois are also viewed as majestic and beautiful creature. He design is literally like that. Like she was advertised for the looks rather than abilities as well. I do hope that before Sumeru comes out, we get to go to enkanomiya tho
The makes a lot of sense too because of Kokomi’s divine blood. It seems more fitting for that blood to be connected to their original deity of the Dark Sea than Orobaxi, which arrived their long after the original Watatsumi natives were established
Been thinking 'bout some random thematic connections between _Erosion/Corrosion,_ the _Dark Sea_ and the _Abyss:_ Erosion seemingly leads to a loss of *self* and *identity;* beings "from" the Abyss (mostly "cursed" after the fall of Khaenri'ah) seemingly lose (or simply don't express, for yet unknown reasons) their *individuality* and any features related to that - mostly notable, they don't have a "face" per se, being identical to any other of similar power on their hierarchy (Hili, Mita, Lawa, Sama churls)... they lose reason and become pure reason and sentiment - strong negative feelings lingering on and becoming curses (?); ...From what little we know of the *Art of Khemia,* it seems almost impossible to grow food and plants (or simply for "spontaneous", naturally-occurring life to thrive) inside of the Abyss... This would funnily justify why the Unusual Hilichurl carries a suitcase full of Cabbages (to smuggle into the Abyss with his portal, then get rich heh) and make that random book from Raiden's "Hangout" event, _"The Good Thing About Being Reincarnated as a Hilichurl Is That I Only Need to Eat Sunsettias to Become Stronger"_ strangely *canon* as, maybe, Hilichurls who finally stop being picky about just eating meat to then gobble their vegetables like little kids power up into Mitachurls, LOL (this also "explains" why there are so many vegetables on the boxes around Hilichurl bases? ahahaha)... ...but the point here being that *food decay* is a theme to both the Abyss and the Dark Sea (even if, in the case of Sangonomiya Island vs. Enkanomiya, it is because the body and soul of "God Gyarados" periodically want to reunite and then nutrients get sapped from Kokomi home's soil and whatnot)... ...It's almost like we have a closed loop of *Life* (thriving in Teyvat) and *Death/Decay* (central at the Abyss and maybe also on the Dark Sea) creeping everywhere we look? Dunno how much this _natural order_ of things _(life, reproduction, death, rebirth or new life)_ corresponds or relates to the seemingly-warped vision and rule held by Celestia through the *Heavenly Principles* (as in, _progress_ or some other arbitrary metric is used to periodically "reset" entire civilizations?); ... This could relate to the Dendro Archon in some way, too... as Fungi are associated with that passage from "death" into new life which closes the cycle? I don't even know what I am going about RN but damn, your video was good Ashikai. :P
Very interesting! I love the koi and dragon connection, very astute! I’m not sold on the island itself being the body of a fallen god, since it looks like rock to me, but it’s definitely a possibility. I’m really looking forward to getting the chance to go down there, as that world quest basically guarantees we will be, in the foreseeable future. I’m hoping it’s some kind of Dragon Palace, maybe with a new world or weekly boss! An entire underwater region to explore would be amazing, but even just a cool looking domain or boss arena would suffice. I feel like the Dark Sea is a very intriguing and mysterious region. Sadly, it is often conflated with the Abyss, mostly due to the word “abyss” being used to describe the deep ocean, but I feel like there is a lot to explore there. Fighting back the invasion of sea monsters in Liyue was a major event that left a lasting impression on Zhongli, and it’s supposedly where the defeated gods in the Archon Wars fled to, being outside the jurisdiction of the Seven. Perhaps we will venture out into that unknown region in the future, after the Teyvat Chapter is concluded.
TL;DR: a synopsis on the corruption of Xiao or, rather, the lack thereof here's what's interesting about Xiao, he DID begin to succumb to his karmic debt, enough debt that he could never pay off, so much it was literally ACTUALLY eating away at his body, mind, and soul he crumpled under this is likely due to a tiny slip up by Xiao, he allowed himself to be made vulnerable by a passing thought, that, as he left the battle he was not returning home, simply leaving the battlefield, that no one would be there to defend him as he did for humanity since his tenure as a Yaksha all at once Xiao falls upon the ground, in soul rending pain, consumed by the millennia of accumulated hatred DESPITE the only thing that saved him all these years: he never felt HATRED THAT is what it hinged on, HATRED, ANGER and one of the only things that saved Xiao, was VENTI, playing the flute in the distance, mollifying his pain in an instant by soothing his turbulent soul when we saw this with the other Yakshas there was no one to stop their anger and with no one to save them from that degradation, they became lost in the sea of karmic hatred that haunts Teyvat to this very day Xiao is alive and sane for only a very few amount of reasons, he never succumbed to hatred, and his soul was quelled by the soft flute that played until dawn allowing Xiao to rise again, and a couple things i mention below thats why he's still functioning, thats why he never lost his mind or body, the karma was eating him and still is tainting him, but his inner peacefulness AND his combination of curiousity and softness to mortals, to humans, to Liyue, kept him whole Xiao is cold solely because he fears this weakness, or rather his past as a playtoy and his karmic burden, he hides this about himself his real nature, his GENTLE nature, his curiosity, his inner stability, and Venti all in combination is why Xiao is not lost to whatever you want to call this process you ARE right, Xiao is and always was built different, this was always the case, he was so powerful, so special, the ADEPTI THEMSELVES, INCLUDING the mightiest of all, Morax, ACCEPTED HIM AS THEIR OWN and acknowledged this unfaltering strength Xiao is much like his laterns, his inner fire that keeps him sustained above ground, elevates and illuminates him, he is not tethered by anger, but his hard earned freedom, much like Venti a pure child of freedom who was the second being to free him from chains
And that would be the reason why the Traveler fainted in the Delusion Factory. He was succumbing to his rage against the Fatui for what they did to the Resistance and Teppei (with Scaramouche making fun of them just to ignite that rage) and that started to ignite the power of the grudge itself, but since s/he him/herself is immune due to his/her natural ability to purify it, simply lost consciousness while his/her immune system was purifying the grudge.
I absolutely love this. Has a feeling with the info sprinkled around the island but you put it so concisely. This is so much better than the current story telling. Keep doing what you're doing. And as a kokomi player, thank you!
The dark sea could be a very interesting plot device Mihoyo can employ. A place where fallen gods reside, and a place that was inhabited by the Seelies. It makes me wonder if the people of Khaenri'ah were originally people of the Dark Sea, and if it was, could that be another reason why to the gods of Celestia dislike the people of Khaenri'ah. Maybe the Dark Sea is where the knowledge of the people of Khaneri'ah came from, maybe their knowledge came from the fallen gods of the Dark Sea.
I'm hoping that kokomi gain some importance in some new content in genshin .... They said she is a great strategist but she didn't get a big participation in 2.0 and 2.1, even in her story quest. It would be nice to see her like ningguang act in the leyue quest.
Welp and we can't forget that the islands where the shrines are (the ones that need cleansing) have a very unique form, like the "Tail of Watatsumi" shrine that looks like a huge fish tail and the same with the other "parts" (eye, fang and fin) So for me it makes sense that watatsumi is the corpse of a God, Humm 🤔
Genshin really knows how to keep the suspense... Like they're not showing what the stones in watatsumi are supposed to be used for. Also, now it kinda makes sense. Why kokomi didn't get much screen time during the archon quest. The quest was mostly centered on raiden and narukami... They'll probably reveal all the cards later and make kokomi the central figure. This division make sense too based on geography since Inazuma is an archipelago. Narukami and Watatsumi are like different worlds. Narukami is like the "central" , the mainland ... when one says inazuman.. it's likely to point to a narukami local... The people on the Watatsumi on the other hand are from the provinces... With their different culture and leadership.
7:00 omg the reason why it doesnt align perfectly with kokomi's constellation is because its a sleeping dragon!! its more tucked in compared to the island version which is almost laid out and open bodies, signifying it is awake or 'ascended' perhaps
*"Not to change the subject, but also I'm changing the subject"* Well this is oddly relatable whenever I'm talking about a subject. Or every time I'm having mood swings which is mostly 70% of my life.
in a quest a researcher from SUMERU....KAUSHIK......told the traveller that ANCIENT INAZUMA HAD 2 SNAKE GODS...........1 gave had corals and so could not move after forming sanganomiya.....and its "true divine for dwelled in the encanomiya deep below foreer defending the people of watatsumi island" other snake god was ambisious and wanted narukami too and so fought raiden and was vut down by her(he was orobashi) HE SAID THIS WHILE IN THE QUEST WHEN ALRANI WHEN SHE CAME TO WATATSUMI ISLAND
Everytime i hear you say "Lingering Hatred" i instinctively chide "Karma..." Splendid video as always, mate. I am just too lazy to involve real world sources (Sola-Scriptura moment) so your video really helps me see things in new light.
As you touched upon in this video, gods and other god-like beings in Genshin will eventually succumb to 'erosion' one day Zhongli has entrusted Liyue to its people, the Shogun meditates to stave off that erosion... but what of Venti though? Venti was just a wind spirit once upon a time; is he susceptible to erosion as well?
@@Ashikai Wait, Ashikai, I find a similarity here, remember Jirachi from Pokemon? Sleeping a thousand years, grants wishes? Am I going somewhere with this?
Venti also doesnt rule his people directly, making him a weak god, so maybe its the immense power itself that causes erosion, since delusions feed on life force, maybe gods powers make people angry and feed off of gods emotions and memories because gods cant age like humans do because the gods can shapeshift.
This reminds me of Mesopotamian myth and Marduk. The sons of the gods once slayed their father, and used their body as a home. Tiamat, who grew mad, tried to kill all of them only for the gods to be guided by Marduk and slay her instead, creating the earth and sky.
Once again im out here making connections to SU....dragon heir is like the cluster trying to reform itself. That aside, its honestly interesting how the gods from the archon war never really 'died' I didn't really give it much thought until now and will be paying more attention in story quests to come
"Oh No BuT GeNsHiN ImPaCt DoSeNt HaVe EnOuGh CoNtEnT" Jokes aside I am so excited for future updates since they teased that will be going to the dark sea/Enkonomiya. Throughout Inazuma I find Watatsumi Island's small lore so interesting since it reminds me of Atlantis and that one children fairy tail whose name I can't remember rn
I am in love with how you turn my skepticism from the start of the video into belief by the end of the video. Thank you so much for your time and effort in making these lore-stuffed videos! I keep looking forward to them :)
I am seriously amazed because what you're saying, it all makes sense. Now that I think about it, corruption/erosion really is the underlying theme of the whole genshin lore. And about Kokomi being the heir of the dragon who was also the previous God of the enkonomiya folks who then went mad because of the corrosion, everything just clicked like while watching this video i kept saying "OHHH" it's just a good feeling. Great video!
I think erosion can be seen as how humans experience deterioration when aging. Like Alzheimer's and dementia. Which is quite common. It makes them angry, confused and forgetful.
About Orobaxi, I got this idea from a comment on a different theory video: if being affected by godly remains is/is like abyssal corruption, what if Orobaxi was corrupted by godly remains? He would've gotten infected during his time on the Dark Sea, or maybe by the coral gifted to him. If the abyss were made of godly remains, then it means Childe has likely come into contact with them. We pretty much know abyssal influence is rampant on the boy, to the point his ambition changed from 'being a hero' to 'world domination' after falling to the abyss. Similar to how Orobaxi went from a protective deity to trying to takeover Inazuma. I feel like this might make sense, since the poster boy for erosion, Azhdaha, never went to conquer Liyue Harbor (iirc). he only hurt humans because he was hurt by them. this doesn't add up to Orobaxi's attack on Narukami, though he might have just attacked Ei so he doesn't hurt Sangonomiya, as you said. In any case, this is just an idea I had lol
i love this theory, and it sort of makes sense too, i guess? This also reminded me of the theory i saw, that the map of tevyat isnt actually being displayed correctly to us, the player, it mentions that the wolf of the north, should be in the north (on top of the map, instead of being in the center ish, at the time of the theory when only liyue and mondstadt were available), perhaps relating to that old theory/fact everyone seemed to have forgotten about, that tevyat is upside down and that something of a calamity turned it all upside down. Can't remember much of it now 😅
It's never been said that Andrius has always resided in Wolvendom though, only that at some point in time he took up residence there. Also, him being "wolf of the north" of the Four Winds and "king of the north wind" might actually be more figurative than we think, because geographically they don't make sense even if we would flip the map upside down (because then the Temple of the Lion, and Lion was the southern wind, would be further up north than the temple dedicated to Lion of the North) It may just be more figurative, as in, Wolf of the North commanded the northern winds (which does fit, as "the northern winds" would most likely be cold winds, and Andrius with his winds did create a massive blizzard in almost the entirety of Mondstadt during his conflict with Decarabian), or the names could be representative of just a small portion of Mondstadt's geography, around Windrise - Temple of the Wolf is to the north of Windrise, Temple of the Lion is to it's south, Mondstadt and the Knights of Favonius (which according to Breeze Amidst the Forest is the Falcon of the West), and Dragon of the East would ofc be Dvalin, who can't really be pinpointed to a certain point honestly EDIT. There is also Temple of the Falcon very nearby Mondstadt city, to the west of Windrise, further helping my point
@@hanako_2137 i think you missed the point there, the wolf was just an example, there were others in that theory but i can't remember them. The point was the calamity and the map potentially being displayed different than it really is. But yeah, its not confirmed so he might have just wandered into the place
Another great video! The part about gods not being able to die got me wondering if Oz could be that bird we see get slain during Ei's flashback (well and also because of another thing I don't want to spoil for people who haven't seen it yet if you know what I mean).
Dunno if this has been said cause I'm late to the party, but: An "Heir" is used to refer to someone who is *going* to inherit something but does not have it yet - so in this context, a koi fish would absolutely be the Heir to a Dragon. Just really cool storytelling here.
So like Kaushik ( a scholar from Sumeru ) found near the electro archon statue on Watatsumi Island talks about his discovery of totems which shows 2 snake gods. Kaushik: My conclusion is that ancient Inazuma must have played host to two snake gods! Kaushik: One of them was enjoined with coral and could not move, thus creating Sangonomiya Shrine. Its true divine form dwelled within Enkanomiya deep below, forever defending the people of Watatsumi Island. Kaushik: As for the other snake god, it was a most ambitious being that dreamed of invading Narukami Island, but was cut down by the Electro Archon as it was making its way there. Kaushik: See? This totem shows snake patterns with coral on them on one end, and patterns that completely lack them on the other. And that's how you know this is the truth!
It's funny, I was actually talking with a friend of mine about Kokomi and the connections to Ryujin. For some extra tidbits I would like to add, Ryujin was also known to have lived at the bottom of the ocean, residing in a palace made of coral. As it happens, that is exactly what "Sangonomiya" means, "Coral palace." While Kokomi's name means "heart of the ocean," literally just combining 'kokoro' and 'umi' together. And from what I found online, it's also believed that "Owatatsumi-no-kami" was just another name _for_ Ryujin. (Usually in Japanese, whenever they add an 'o' it means "great." So if you've ever played Ookami, that's why there are two 'o' and not one. "Okami" means "wolf," but 'kami' also means 'god', so in a sense, the game's name is a bunch of wordplay for "great wolf god")
There is a sumeru researcher in the island saying there are two gods people of watasumi island but is think he never explained much. Go to the right side of the circle when you teleported to the statue of seven there and you will find him eventually
Aaaaa the Okami OST and clips on this one!! It's my favorite game of all time so that made me happy. Also very on point since the Watatsumi island pastel coral aesthetic always reminded me of the Dragon Palace in Okami (fitting since king Wada aka the water dragon IS supposed to be based on myth Watatsumi) Excellent theory, there's definitely something fishy (hurr hurr) going on with Sangonomiya's shape and the inconsistencies of Orobaxi's story. Also, idk if you've touched it in another video but now that we're talking about tataragami and the evil the yakshas fight (both linked to plagues and disease in fact). I wonder if Decarabian's remains and wrath ever cause this grief in Mondstadt. I think the storms around Stormterror's Lair are part of that, the result of the explosion when he died similar to Havria's salt. But was that all? How did Barbatos handle it? Did he yeet it far? Did it cause disease and madness? I'd love to see a Mondstadt quest (Venti's second character quest?) where we touch upon that, because that country feels too peaceful a couple of rebellions aside.
The theories, as always, amazing and beyond wonderful ^_^. But what really touched me were all those Okami soundtracks in the background. Literally started to tear up from the memories
Gyarados is my favourite water type pokemon. Maybe it's a sign, I should become Kokomi main and wait till the game allows her to evolve. This was certainly a good watch. Great job!
Hi Ashi, in last video you referred paimon as the StarKeeper and it sounds interesting. But after what we have with guoba the god of stove, it becomes more and more likely that paimon is the Sustainer. Now we know that a god becomes smaller after losing its power, and paimon likes just like a young version of Sustainer. The Sustainer has the herrscher pupil while paimon's looks plain which might indicates the power they got. There is also an interesting pattern in Genshin scripts that the traveller meets people with hidden identity. We helped Zhongli to farewell Morax, we fought Azhdaha with Kunjun, we search for the god of stove with guoba nearby. See? We might be going for the Sustainer with paimon too. I once got very confused why the sustainer spared with the traveller's life if she was hostile. Maybe the Sustainer is "the keeper that is fading away", and she wanted the traveller to be "the creator that has not yet come. This also goes in line with the story of Genesis Pearl very well.
Thank you for your theories!! I super appreciate your deep dive and research about the lore that I would never even come to understand while playing the game.
What a great theory! I love it :D I also love all the general lore, myths, history... so much to learn from you!! (Also: great use of the Ookami OST. Had to rewind some times, cause I focused too hard on the music, though x'D Ah, the nostalgia!)
Love this theory!! the everlasting moonglow item lore also talks about watatsumi and th3ir divine priestess (it’s too difficult for me to understand but I think there’s some strong correlation to the points you made)
Now about Erosion there actually are two places we some something similar but different. The Corrosion from the Spiral Abyss and the Wolves from the 2.2 trailer are black with violet accents just like the Tartagami mist with Traveler was in when they confronted Scaramouche. We also know Raiden’s friend Chiyo was consumed by an Abyssal Monster but wasn’t killed, just stuck. After escaping she became corrupted and violent and we know the 2.2 Wolf monsters are from the Abyss. It’s possible Orobashi, after entering the dark sea, was tainted by the abyss only protected by the coral and after creating Watatsumi island slowly became corroded. In fact the main difference between corrosion and erosion in science is that erosion is natural and slowly removes parts while corrosion is destruction of material. If Orobashi’s mind corroded similar to Chiyo it would would explain its violent and uncharacteristic behavior.
Wow, this video aged so well (there a few misses, like for example Orobashi's erosion), but overall I'm really impressed with how accurate it is for how long ago it was made.
i remember this scene at the start of genshin comic where venti literally appears out of nowhere asking himself "how long... have i slept?" does venti just wake up every 500 hundred years to just.. check on his people and help if there is anything bad happening? for example, 1000 years ago, venti took down the aristocracy (the lawrence clan), then he woke up again during the cataclysm and now he woke up and saved dvalin i do understand venti is the god of freedom and does not want to rule his people, but what if another reason for this is to preserve himself as he currently is and not get effected by erosion?
I don't know if anyone brought it up yet, but at 4:30 the part of the story that talks about sacrificing 8 children of the couple, 7 of which die, it immediately made me think of the Sunchildren!! There were 7 in total according to lore, and we all know they were sacrificed to their artificial sun. I'm not quite sure what this would actually mean, but I found the coincidence interesting
Ashikai, I'm so in love with your theories and narration. I wonder what you would think about the possibility of su making an appearance in genshin. Please continue to keep up the amazing work and rest well! Much love
I agree that orobashi might experience erosion, but part of it i also thinks that the cataclysm might just be one with also great effect on orabashi going all rampage to ei. If i remember correctly, the cataclysm also affects ei's friend, the oni one, which also caused her to go rampage and ei ended up having to cute her friends horns and other body parts and she ended up dying from there. Its much to a matter of timing, so if ei slayed orabashi before the cataclysm/long after the cataclysm big chance that your theory are, indeed correct.
Ngl, this makes hella sense. Also Ms. Betty Crockermi (that’s Kokomi’s nickname, Idk where it came from) has her small hair accessory that looks like maybe one day it could form into huge dragon horns with time (I believe the hair accessory is a baby dragon horn hair accessory is what I’m getting at, not that it’s actually attached to her head). Either way, I love the whole fish/oto-hime sort of vibe she has going for her and if Watatsumi really -is- made on the corpse of the old dragon deity, it really makes sense that it’s all fish/sea creature themed.
I just read a theory about kokomi (since i haven't done explore enkanomiya and i don't have kokomi). I remember this video, and ngl your your video is always awesome. The details info and the research, i love it Kokomi's constellation looks like the new vishap, i don't remember their name. Maybe the theory is true that kokomi is the descendant of the (whatever) vishap.
This theory, and that quest, reminded me of that one frame of the traveler drowning and the shadow of a big thing moving in the background way back in the 2.0 trailer. At that point I thought it was the Overlord of the Vortex, and a teaser for the continuation of We will be reunited, since we can all assume that the Abyss Order now has everything they need to go on with their plan of modifying the Overlord's body. I don't think they have used that footage anywhere in the game so far, so maybe they'll eventually use it in a quest related to Sangonomiya?? I'm pretty sure the Watatsumi priestess at the end of the quest said that one day she might need us to help her again. I would really like Enkonomiya to be some sort of expansion to Inazuma, like Dragonspine and the Chasm are to Mondstadt and Liyue
Now I'm waiting for the gameplay changing skin (like in honkai) who will make of Kokomi a S tier unit. This way I will be mocking the people that told me that pulling for her was stupid! Mouhahah! (
I know this video is old and the lore of Orobashi arrival to Enkanomiya has been changed but I wanted to add something! This thing you said about the Chinese serpent god and marriage is very interesting, as theres this Liyue book about the human wife of the god of the sea (Palace Beneath the Sea). And my theory always was that Orobashi was one of the sea monsters/gods of the sea who Morax sealed in the deep of the ocean. In fact, it is said that Orobashi fled Teyvat cause he was unable to defeat the "golden god", and in Enkanomiya theres this ongoing theme about Dragons VS Serpents... (Ye, Vishaps! But Liyue is also very VERY related to vishaps.....). However, if Orobashi just fled from Teyvat, why he was trapped down in Enkanomiya, that he had to break the seal for them to go back to the surface? He wanted to break free from his prison, I guess. Funny that you get sealed by a god and when you finally find a way out that god's bosses force you to sacrifice yourself because you read a book hahah However, in this, I think Celestia gave him no choice. He had enough motives to attack the other island, but I think inmolating himself and "surrendering his people" for the Shogun to rule over them was the only way Celestia could allow Enkanomiya people them back. No other gods but The Seven, no mention to the previous history of Teyvat, no nothing. (Unrelated, but my actual hot take is that Orobashi was also Xiao's former master and was who caused the flood who killed Guizhong but lets set that aside for a while…) Going back to Enkanomiyas dragons, after seeing this video I believe even more that Kokomi's lineage is a vessel made in Enkanomiya for the primordial sovereign Dragon of Water. Maybe Orobashi wasnt trying to stop his comeback, maybe he was trying to bring back a powerful ally against Celestia. Sorry for the babbling, Ive loved this video and now I wonder if the ancient dragon god of enkanomiya was the remains of the Dragon of Water or if it was just part of the legend Watatsumi people were forced to tell in order to hice their real origins. Maybe I missed something!
It is said that the Corals were also used as a ladder to bring the people from Enkanomiya to Sangonomiya, and the fact that Orobaxi was a giant snake - and snakes regularly shed their skin - makes me think that that the Coiled shape of Watatsumi Island is just the shape left in place when our Snake boi finally shed off his skin, Corals with it. The Coil can instead be called a Spiral, and the ladder created from the Corals is pretty much just the Spiral staircase that Orobashi created by Coiling up from the Abyss to Teyvat (or rather, he swam up in a Coil with the people onboard like the most fabulous spaceship the Abyss had ever seen; imagine all that shining, colourful Coral gliding up in a helical shape). The whole thing about finding the right time to reopen the barrier between Enka and Sango sounds a whole lot like plate tectonics. Coral islands tend to form around volcanic islands over tectonic hot spots; over time the volcanic island will erode away once the hotspot migrates from under that location on the Earth's crust. The island will erode down to sea level and even further, and the coral grows around it to form an atoll with a shallow lagoon in the middle, which is what the Island looks like to me, aside from the lack of visible coral. This can be explained by the fact that sediment and whatnot accumulates on the coral and can form a proper island over time. With this analogy, Enka and Sango would be most connected when the 'hotspot' is back underneath Watatsumi Island, and the hotspot itself refers to some such Spirit Veins, which I think is just Ley Lines? Man, is Teyvat really just an inverted Earth? Like, it would make sense for people to be suffering when they're on the wrong side of the Dyson Sphere. Bleaching is also a natural phenomenon that corals undergo when the conditions (temperature, pH levels, etc.) change beyond tolerance. Considering the Corals were brought from the Abyss, it would make sense for them to bleach and lose vitality in the drastically different [assumption] environment of Teyvat; then you have to go down to Enka and get some of the Corals that Oroboi left to suppress the Dragonheir to revitalise the Island - over time they bleach again, so you have to do it over and over again until the Dragonheir wakes up and eats everything in sight. I think this loss of vitality and bleaching is not exclusive to the Corals; the Mare Jivari is the first thing I thought of when I heard what would be the consequences of letting Watatsumi bleach all the way. It is a form of erosion, and we know now by the Moonchase cutscene that the land can erode AND can be revitalised by "Divine" (whatever that means) power being imbued into it. Land can also hold grudges like dead gods do, as from the Thunder Manifestation's (that one, pissed tf off Electro Specter) description. Naturally, this "Divine" power can come from something that was found in the Abyss, obviously. Although, in the case of the Corals and Watatsumi's fertility, it seems more like the Vitality wants to return to the Abyss where it came from, and that bringing some Coral back up is more to placate it rather than resupply it (it could also just be both). Kokomo's old design, Momo, had a hairpiece that was a white (bleached) coral; Kokomo's hairpiece is shaped like fins - a *real*, short-term, crack theory here; Koko is an Enka sleeper agent impostor, the real Sango Heiress is actually Momo still, but I digress. Kokomo's hairpiece reminds me of the unagi that we can farm for unagi meat, and the unagi themselves reminded me of Oroboi (or you could say that the hairpiece is meant to mimic the tiny horns on Oroboi's snout), but try as I might I could not draw a connection to the in game Koi ('false dragons'). Because they are so similar, the distinct differences make them that much more separate. It's funny considering how Orobashi was probably very weak without the Coral (why he got clapped by Raiden), and the unagi themselves are so easy to farm while the Koi are a pain to catch. But the Rusty Koi's description makes me think that the old Dragonheir may have once been the owner of the Corals; *however*, they weakened him immensely so he threw them off and that was when Oroboi found them, except in his case it made him super stronk. I mean, the Golden Koi to Rusty Koi evolution is the exact opposite of the Adorned Unagi to Red-Finned Unagi maturation - in both cases, once the transition is made, the value or strength of the creature is heightened. Reading the Golden Koi description, there's the distinct possibility that Oroboi snatched the Corals from the Dragonheir and unwittingly unleashed a beast onto the Enkanomites, then, feeling guilty, saved them all and bonded with them and took them to Teyvat, buried DH under his Corals and left in peace. I also think the reason Oroboi attacked Inazuma in the first place has less to do with erosion and more to do with the rules of the Archon War since his death coincides with the timeline of the War itself. There probably was no place for any gods to properly exist on Teyvat other than those who would be given the Gnoses, so he launched a futile, desparate attack on Raiden in the hopes that he would secure a place in Teyvat for his people with Gnosis in hand, but alas, his people were allowed to stay anyway (maybe he told Raiden what he was doing? I wonder why he couldn't have just pulled an Andrius though). Unagi burrow into the mud... did Oroboi burrow through to Teyvat from the Abyss? Maybe he did that often because he liked the warmth of Teyvat like how the Unagi like to sunbathe? Is that why there's a giant hole in the middle of the Island? WAIT A MINUTE, IT'S A LITERAL WORM(SNAKE)HOLE
@rekka6366 this was a lot and very interesting! Thinking if it taking place during the archon war is intriguing too. The DH seems like a very interesting being coming from the dark sea/aybss
and Ashikai does it again ! Your theories continue to make the lore more sense(even though its just a theory) :D thanks for this ! this was both entertaining and interesting to watch
My theory is that Orobashi is linked to the Gnostic Chorus story. We see a serpent wrapping around a large oyster housing the Genesis pearl, which coincides with Sangonomiya Shrine being a huge oyster and Kokomi being called the Pearl of Wisdom (in the Bible, Genesis tells how the fall of man came from possessing certain knowledge or wisdom they should not have). In underground Inazuma, we see murals mentioning an ancient civilization in the sky (or something like that), which also references that kingdom in the sky in the Gnostic Chorus. These murals are both in Inazuma and in Dragonspine, which is also shown simultaneously in the Gnostic Chorus. My guess is that Orobashi might have found or protected the pearl when he defeated the dragonheir and perhaps the divine priestesses of watatsumi island are either secretly protecting these pearls or are reincarnations of the pearl themselves. The Gnostic Chorus shows a black serpent, which could mean this might not be Orobashi (since they are a white serpent) but rather the dragonheir ( or it could reference Orobashi succumbing to erosion since erosion causes a black aura).
When you talked about Benzaiten I immediately thought of Benzaiten Biwaki from “The Mimic” in Roblox, if you haven’t already you should try making a theory on the creatures lol
I haven't gotten that far with this video, but something you didn't mention with the name of the snake is that it's very close to the name of uroboros! Which is usually depicted as a snake eating it's own tail! Just a small thing, love your theories and they're always so interesting c:
It's not, actually, at least not in my opinion. The original name, Orobashi or Orobaxi is just the way that you would pronounce Orobas in Japanese and Chinese respectively. Ourobouros would have been something more like "Oroborosu," iirc, which is a little less similar than the Romanized, "orobashi vs ourobouros." Apart from both being snakes, there's very little to connect them.
@@Ashikai Ooohh I see!! I suppose it was just the similar pronunciation that got me to think about Ouroboros. Though I do think there is some connection with the topic of rebirth when looking into Orobashi and Ouroboros. Perhaps it's just me looking too deep into it...But the whole dragon god's body sort of being "reborn" into what we now know as Watatsumi Island. Though there are a lot of relations with rebirth when it comes to Genshin's story haha.
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- I forgot to mention and a few people brought it up, but when you're fishing the "koi" fish have a description that mentions they look a lot more like small dragons than fish. They really do look like little dragons.
as a kokomi main i love rewatching this sm u did so great
In Russian localization koi is literally named “fake dragon” lol
But i prefer to play in English because it seems like Russian translation is translation of English translation of Chinese game
Also, the item description for rusty koi (the blue ones) mention that they are sometimes termed "awakened dragons" and have strong will, willing to fight any who invade their territory for food. It says its a strong fighter with iron will and is given the nickname the "ironbone dragon", and will be the backbone of its species future revitalization. Thought that was interesting! Sounds like a certain maiden with strong prowess for military strategy and resource management. Sorry if you already covered this and i missed it.
This is the Kokomi will get buffed theory we never knew we needed.
WHAT I WAS THINKING 😂
Nooooooooo
Just imagine of they change the talent from -100 crit rate to -25 it will be pog
PLS WE NEED IT 😭😭😭
YES
When Kokomi will evolve into a dragoness she will have 100% Crit rate instead of -100% and her ascension stat will be Crit dmg
Copium, but good idea
She will learn an other attack other than splash
Kokomikarp is evolving!!! Kokomikarp evolved into Kokomirados!!!
Kokomirados learned Hydro Beam!!!
I'm gonna need more copuim
@@bio-knight may be dragon tail or iron tail😆😜
It makes sense now. Kokomi is a shiny Magikarp. In every sense. A 5 star, (Shiny) Water-Type, that can only learn Splash, in a world where splash can damage or heal that, if constellations are maxed, is pretty formidable in her own right, (Gyrados)
SHINY MAGIKARP JAAJSJ
I would like to add that the dragonheir might be sealed under the coral filled coiled up dead skin of orobashi, since snakes do shed skin and it would make sense as to why the snake looked pristine when fighting ball.
@@michaelwolfcub3555 "Fighting Ball..."
Verdammt noch mal dieser Clown sagt.... ಠ_ಠ
bro ur too good at theories because i have no idea what the f*** is happening in this game but yeah sure dude magikarp turned into the dead dragon that kokomi sleeps on that makes sense when u say it KEK
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I get the feeling that some time down the road, MiHoYo's going to make us revisit all the regions we've been to. Mostly because Honkai Impact 3rd's story is obscenely long. But if the same were to happen with Genshin, I'd imagine we'd get more in-depth with stories like Kokomi's and Watatsumi. The fact that they didn't give us a deeper questline for Watatsumi's story, feels like they're saying "put a pin on that because we're coming back to that later." At least that's what I'm hoping for. I would like to see the writers give Genshin the same level of love that they gave Honkai Impact.
Same... Honkai is made with love. In other hand, Genshin... No love. And that's sad qwq
@@clover.8147 I think it is mostly that u started playing honkai 1 year or 2 after its release, if you join right now there is a ton but a ton of things to do, main story, side stories, challenges, abyss, sruff like domains to farm materials, minigames, I mean, sometimes you even dont know what currencies come from where
fun fact, theres a LEAK abt how enkanomiya will be released before the chasm in 2.4, and will have a weird time cycle/ :P
When genshin theories become better then the actuall plot
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Mihoyo needs to start taking notes smh
This 👏👏
Atleast those theories get confirmed like Puppet Scharamouch
For a second I got reminded about how Dvalin fought Durin and kind of "inherited" his "disease" which manifested as a neck pain. It made me wonder if Orobashi's battle with the Watatsumi could perhaps have similar associations.
So nice to see someone else delving into the Kokomi and Watatsumi lore! I didn't go as deep because I have no idea about mythology but I was convinced that Kokomi is in fact either a deity reincarnated or at least has some of the powers of her ancestors from the bottom of the sea and that we will learn her secret origin in this update, from her character story and her profile. So much for that, I was destroyed by the fact that there was nothing about it in the game. Now you're giving me hope again.
Mood. Her character stories were such a let down. They told us absolutely nothing.
Haha, honestly, I initially thought her energy calculation system was closely tied to her biology: maybe something related to her ekanomiya heritage. However, it turned out to be a 'character quirk'. So much for that.
i just realize kokomi has 2 different hair color.... just like other archons lol
@@cinamoonmoon5166 this
since the sakura tree lvl max is 40 in 2.2 and the cap for the tree is 50(+?), i think it's safe to say that the next patch will revisit the main islands or watatsumi
Can't believe the demon Orobashi might've been named after is some kinda Bojack Horseman lookin dude lmao
Hyped for more story time with Yanfei!
Is she really yanfei VA?
@@donjuan9952 nah we just call her yanfei bc she sounds a lot like yanfei!
@@bigchungus2667 i got it. her sounds so similar to yanfei.
@@donjuan9952 she also uses Yanfei to represent herself in videos
@@Chopsparillo who, ashikai?
There are two NPC that shared a bit about the history of the Watatsumi island. One is a researcher from Sumeru and the other one is a shrine maiden of Sangonomiya shrine. Your theory is almost similar to that researcher's conclusion.
What? who is the researcher?? :o
@@Videl390 It was Kaushik he’s near the Archon’s Statue
@@vladixice Yeah the Guy who talks about Watatsumi having two gods
I think it's kinda funny that you said this because the shrine maiden said not to trust Kaushik as he basically spreads misinformation.
someone drew that picture of a puppy kissing a khoi fish, as Gorou and kokomi..it's amazing how it fits so well now that kokomi is ACTUALLY based on khoi fish smh
There's one other thing about Orobashi being based off of Yamata no Orochi that I think needs mentioning-I saw that the little text on Raiden's polearm, the Engulfing Lightning, calls it "a naginata used to cut grass." I think this was a pretty direct reference to the Kusanagi no Tsurugi, also known as "grass cutter," which incidentally was the blade used to slay the evil Orochi. Just thought that it was a neat little detail they left in to make the mythological parallels a lot clearer.
Another amazing video btw! I honestly never paid that much attention to Kokomi after feeling underwhelmed from her kit (Mihoyo pls buff T^T), so seeing the info you presented here makes me appreciate the work that went into her design and how she ties into the lore at large that much more. You and the rest of the lore seekers are a healthy breath of fresh air in a community as massive and overwhelming as Genshin's, so I appreciate what you guys bring to the table.
Always looking forward to your next vid! Cheers~!
Oh snap you're right! Lemme add that to the pinned comments.
According to that legend, didn't Susanoo pull a sword out of Orochi? I'd like to think there'd be a future event + event weapon in relation to this!
Funnily enough, Engulfing Lightning used to be called Grasscutter's Light before release, so you're probably right
Also, I'm pretty sure the polearm is named Kusanagi in the Japanese translation.
@@sridharhimane150 in Portuguese it is, still, "Luz do Cortador da Grama" (Grasscutter's Light). Maybe some of the original names were changed in the english translation idk why tho
Theory: Ei and Orabashi is just acting the war. Orabashi wanted to act invading Ei's boundary so Merman's won't be angry at Ei for killing their deity. God can't be killed entirely, Just like Guizhong, Havria, Osial, Chi, Guoba, Andrius. Orabashi Turned into Changsheng and hide his presence from something or someone like Dark abyss. Also, Oz is the thunderbird!
Cut the cameras.....................
@@salceds Whut? 😗
Oz is the Thunderbird? I thought he was manifested from Fischl Joestars imagination.
@@godsoffice5714 he is, probably. But it’s entirely plausible that Oz was instead summoned and not created by fischl’s vision.
The Thunderbird did kill a whole island because they sacrificed the boy he liked.
lol Genshin has quite a few chars that are set up to get some crazy power boosted forms. Maybe we will get awakenings or a seperate skill tree to unlock better moves down the line.
Noel is a prime candiate. She has Tons of power but lacks experience. I suspect when she becomes a Full Blown Knight she will be something else.
Lisa is clearly not fighting at full power (and might die someday soon)
Kokomi a dragon waiting to be awoken? (makes me want an awakening mechanic even more.)
Xiangling holds adeptal affinity?? Gouba USED to be stove god?
Albedo kinda promises us to go rogue and destroy Mondstadt
Ningguang may be a reincarnated Archon.
No
@meri Yes Kaeya almost forgot about him! And Ashikai did her theory on hilicurl masks and eyes. Kaeya's Eye is probably special. I know under the mask Mihoyo didn't texture it at all so its most likely different than his other in some way. Can't wait to find out.
Then we also have characters capable of using both a vision and a delusion (Tartaglia) and even have transformations like Foul Legacy. God knows what the other Harbingers (minus "La Pot De Ashes" KEKW) can do.
Im convinced, it makes way too much sense.
Even the male Sumeru researcher on watatsumi theorized the were two gods instead of only Orobashi
or something along those lines and he was called a heretic/blasphemous by the shrine maiden.
I think he was on to something and so are you.
Should have been titled "Why Kokomi is a sentient Magikarp" A Speculative Analysis.
10/10
great video.
Imagine if Kokomi gets evolved like a pokemon and gets buffed in game.
Wait a minute...
Now that I think of it, Childe used the Sigils of Permission to....... huh.
I wonder if other archons have different ways to handle opposing gods. Compared to Venti and Ei, Zhongli was probably the most thorough of the three so far in terms of "cleaning house." I mean, he even had five yasha help him contain the lingering rage, sealed two of his fallen foes, and personally held funerary rites of his fallen adepti and gods.
I wonder if he personally ensures their souls are forever unable to rejoin their body. And that's what the sigils of permissions were originally meant for: As protective charms and wards. They may have just evolved into symbols of Morax's trust.
I dunno it's just a theory.
A LAME Theory!
Thanks for watching!
No
Venti didn't have to deal with any gods, the only non human threat he subdued was Durin who he conveniently and effectively buried under Dragonspine
Slight misunderstanding, there were dozens of yaksha. Five of them were just the strongest. Xiao and the other four.
@@winnie7668 Actually there were other gods. However he made peace with them and they became his allies and agreed to protect Mondstadt. You've met and fought 2 of them every week since the game launched. Dvalin and Andrius. Both were gods and originally were going to fight Venti, however like the bard he is he chose a more peaceful cooperative solution.
@@khrow83 Andrius I know about, he was a God, but idk about Dvalin being one. That's interesting. Is Dvalin a demon god in the Ars Goetia? That could help us identify him.
I wonder if there’s anything left of Makoto? I would imagine that Ei would be relentless in her attempts to put her sister back together.
I think Makato got transformed into the Sakura tree at Narukami Island. One can also note that the Sakura Tree absorbs and tries to contain the impurity that affects Inazuma, similar to Makato's desire to protect her homeland.
In Ei's voicelines, you'll notice that she often talks about Makoto and refers to her sister as "she" "her". She also mentioned that "she" became the sacred sakura tree and that is a form of eternity. So I believe either Makoto got absorbed, became the tree itself, or became the source of divine power of the tree. I don't know depths of Inazuma lore so this is what I speculate.
@@ashutoshpardeshi3035 this aged well
Fascinating theory.
I just remembered her elemental burst is called nereid's ascension. I thought that was just kokomi awakening her dormant sea faery power, for those who doesn't know nereid is sea nymph (nymph = fairy). Fairy = Seelie too. There is also a mention that said teyvat's seelie once lived near enkonomiya, even more fascinating, isn't it?
Now if we tie the eastern myth to greek myth, and other myths. Nereid do can ascend to minor sea goddess, which can ascend to greater sea goddess, poseidon's wife used to be a nereid before she become the greatest sea goddess. This makes me think that nereid's ascension is not she is awakening her dormant nereid power, but she is already a nereid starting her first step of ascension to be a water dragon one day.
Another interesting things to consider is, faery or seelie or sidhe, often have their dark and light community, like seelie and unseelie, summer fae and winter fae, etc, or light elves and dark elves, they are basically the same thing. What if the people of the deeps in sangonomiya is the light version and there are their cousin still in enkonomiya
Wow...
i remember watching klementime's video about kokomi, mentioning that her constellation could mean "sleeping dragon".
Yeah it's literally Latin for Sleeping Dragon: Dracaena solomneta
@@apollo6662 yeah, ik-
The kokomi theory makes more sense now. Kois are also viewed as majestic and beautiful creature. He design is literally like that. Like she was advertised for the looks rather than abilities as well. I do hope that before Sumeru comes out, we get to go to enkanomiya tho
The makes a lot of sense too because of Kokomi’s divine blood. It seems more fitting for that blood to be connected to their original deity of the Dark Sea than Orobaxi, which arrived their long after the original Watatsumi natives were established
maybe in fact genshin IS pokemon
confirmed
first
4th
Gen 9 confirmed
TECCY POG
I also love how we're getting lore about magikarps at the end
Been thinking 'bout some random thematic connections between _Erosion/Corrosion,_ the _Dark Sea_ and the _Abyss:_
Erosion seemingly leads to a loss of *self* and *identity;* beings "from" the Abyss (mostly "cursed" after the fall of Khaenri'ah) seemingly lose (or simply don't express, for yet unknown reasons) their *individuality* and any features related to that - mostly notable, they don't have a "face" per se, being identical to any other of similar power on their hierarchy (Hili, Mita, Lawa, Sama churls)... they lose reason and become pure reason and sentiment - strong negative feelings lingering on and becoming curses (?);
...From what little we know of the *Art of Khemia,* it seems almost impossible to grow food and plants (or simply for "spontaneous", naturally-occurring life to thrive) inside of the Abyss... This would funnily justify why the Unusual Hilichurl carries a suitcase full of Cabbages (to smuggle into the Abyss with his portal, then get rich heh) and make that random book from Raiden's "Hangout" event, _"The Good Thing About Being Reincarnated as a Hilichurl Is That I Only Need to Eat Sunsettias to Become Stronger"_ strangely *canon* as, maybe, Hilichurls who finally stop being picky about just eating meat to then gobble their vegetables like little kids power up into Mitachurls, LOL (this also "explains" why there are so many vegetables on the boxes around Hilichurl bases? ahahaha)...
...but the point here being that *food decay* is a theme to both the Abyss and the Dark Sea (even if, in the case of Sangonomiya Island vs. Enkanomiya, it is because the body and soul of "God Gyarados" periodically want to reunite and then nutrients get sapped from Kokomi home's soil and whatnot)...
...It's almost like we have a closed loop of *Life* (thriving in Teyvat) and *Death/Decay* (central at the Abyss and maybe also on the Dark Sea) creeping everywhere we look? Dunno how much this _natural order_ of things _(life, reproduction, death, rebirth or new life)_ corresponds or relates to the seemingly-warped vision and rule held by Celestia through the *Heavenly Principles* (as in, _progress_ or some other arbitrary metric is used to periodically "reset" entire civilizations?);
... This could relate to the Dendro Archon in some way, too... as Fungi are associated with that passage from "death" into new life which closes the cycle? I don't even know what I am going about RN but damn, your video was good Ashikai. :P
It’s the people of watasumi island asked orobashi to invade Inazuma for their benefit.
I wonder if we'll learn the reason why Orobochi attacked in the 6th island.
rlly dont wanna be that guy but its orobashi >_
@@anniimi ah ok.
@@anniimi wait isn't it orobashi ,,
@@doplop yeah i was thinking of smt else at the time
@@doplop in 2.0 i thought it was orobashi but then everyone started writing it like orobaxi for some reason
Very interesting! I love the koi and dragon connection, very astute! I’m not sold on the island itself being the body of a fallen god, since it looks like rock to me, but it’s definitely a possibility. I’m really looking forward to getting the chance to go down there, as that world quest basically guarantees we will be, in the foreseeable future. I’m hoping it’s some kind of Dragon Palace, maybe with a new world or weekly boss!
An entire underwater region to explore would be amazing, but even just a cool looking domain or boss arena would suffice.
I feel like the Dark Sea is a very intriguing and mysterious region. Sadly, it is often conflated with the Abyss, mostly due to the word “abyss” being used to describe the deep ocean, but I feel like there is a lot to explore there. Fighting back the invasion of sea monsters in Liyue was a major event that left a lasting impression on Zhongli, and it’s supposedly where the defeated gods in the Archon Wars fled to, being outside the jurisdiction of the Seven. Perhaps we will venture out into that unknown region in the future, after the Teyvat Chapter is concluded.
TL;DR: a synopsis on the corruption of Xiao or, rather, the lack thereof
here's what's interesting about Xiao, he DID begin to succumb to his karmic debt, enough debt that he could never pay off, so much it was literally ACTUALLY eating away at his body, mind, and soul
he crumpled under
this is likely due to a tiny slip up by Xiao, he allowed himself to be made vulnerable by a passing thought, that, as he left the battle he was not returning home, simply leaving the battlefield, that no one would be there to defend him as he did for humanity since his tenure as a Yaksha
all at once Xiao falls upon the ground, in soul rending pain, consumed by the millennia of accumulated hatred DESPITE the only thing that saved him all these years: he never felt HATRED
THAT is what it hinged on, HATRED, ANGER
and one of the only things that saved Xiao, was VENTI, playing the flute in the distance, mollifying his pain in an instant by soothing his turbulent soul
when we saw this with the other Yakshas there was no one to stop their anger and with no one to save them from that degradation, they became lost in the sea of karmic hatred that haunts Teyvat to this very day
Xiao is alive and sane for only a very few amount of reasons, he never succumbed to hatred, and his soul was quelled by the soft flute that played until dawn
allowing Xiao to rise again, and a couple things i mention below
thats why he's still functioning, thats why he never lost his mind or body, the karma was eating him and still is tainting him, but his inner peacefulness AND his combination of curiousity and softness to mortals, to humans, to Liyue, kept him whole
Xiao is cold solely because he fears this weakness, or rather his past as a playtoy and his karmic burden, he hides this about himself
his real nature, his GENTLE nature, his curiosity, his inner stability, and Venti all in combination is why Xiao is not lost to whatever you want to call this process
you ARE right, Xiao is and always was built different, this was always the case, he was so powerful, so special, the ADEPTI THEMSELVES, INCLUDING the mightiest of all, Morax, ACCEPTED HIM AS THEIR OWN and acknowledged this unfaltering strength
Xiao is much like his laterns, his inner fire that keeps him sustained above ground, elevates and illuminates him, he is not tethered by anger, but his hard earned freedom, much like Venti a pure child of freedom who was the second being to free him from chains
And that would be the reason why the Traveler fainted in the Delusion Factory. He was succumbing to his rage against the Fatui for what they did to the Resistance and Teppei (with Scaramouche making fun of them just to ignite that rage) and that started to ignite the power of the grudge itself, but since s/he him/herself is immune due to his/her natural ability to purify it, simply lost consciousness while his/her immune system was purifying the grudge.
@@UberWraith 100%
I absolutely love this. Has a feeling with the info sprinkled around the island but you put it so concisely.
This is so much better than the current story telling. Keep doing what you're doing. And as a kokomi player, thank you!
Does the lore from Everlasting Moonglow add anything interesting to your theory?
The dark sea could be a very interesting plot device Mihoyo can employ. A place where fallen gods reside, and a place that was inhabited by the Seelies. It makes me wonder if the people of Khaenri'ah were originally people of the Dark Sea, and if it was, could that be another reason why to the gods of Celestia dislike the people of Khaenri'ah. Maybe the Dark Sea is where the knowledge of the people of Khaneri'ah came from, maybe their knowledge came from the fallen gods of the Dark Sea.
kokomi will start dealing damage when she evolve into a dragoness i guess on the other hand are there any mention of a wind got in inazuma so far?
I'm hoping that kokomi gain some importance in some new content in genshin .... They said she is a great strategist but she didn't get a big participation in 2.0 and 2.1, even in her story quest. It would be nice to see her like ningguang act in the leyue quest.
Kokomi being a sleeping dragon has become one of my favorite theory so far.
Welp and we can't forget that the islands where the shrines are (the ones that need cleansing) have a very unique form, like the "Tail of Watatsumi" shrine that looks like a huge fish tail and the same with the other "parts" (eye, fang and fin)
So for me it makes sense that watatsumi is the corpse of a God, Humm 🤔
Genshin really knows how to keep the suspense... Like they're not showing what the stones in watatsumi are supposed to be used for. Also, now it kinda makes sense. Why kokomi didn't get much screen time during the archon quest. The quest was mostly centered on raiden and narukami... They'll probably reveal all the cards later and make kokomi the central figure. This division make sense too based on geography since Inazuma is an archipelago. Narukami and Watatsumi are like different worlds. Narukami is like the "central" , the mainland ... when one says inazuman.. it's likely to point to a narukami local... The people on the Watatsumi on the other hand are from the provinces... With their different culture and leadership.
7:00 omg the reason why it doesnt align perfectly with kokomi's constellation is because its a sleeping dragon!! its more tucked in compared to the island version which is almost laid out and open bodies, signifying it is awake or 'ascended' perhaps
*"Not to change the subject, but also I'm changing the subject"*
Well this is oddly relatable whenever I'm talking about a subject. Or every time I'm having mood swings which is mostly 70% of my life.
in a quest a researcher from SUMERU....KAUSHIK......told the traveller that ANCIENT INAZUMA HAD 2 SNAKE GODS...........1 gave had corals and so could not move after forming sanganomiya.....and its "true divine for dwelled in the encanomiya deep below foreer defending the people of watatsumi island"
other snake god was ambisious and wanted narukami too and so fought raiden and was vut down by her(he was orobashi)
HE SAID THIS WHILE IN THE QUEST WHEN ALRANI WHEN SHE CAME TO WATATSUMI ISLAND
Everytime i hear you say "Lingering Hatred" i instinctively chide "Karma..."
Splendid video as always, mate. I am just too lazy to involve real world sources (Sola-Scriptura moment) so your video really helps me see things in new light.
After reading the description of the new vishaps, in relation to the Seven primordials, remembered this theory and thought about kokomi straight away
As you touched upon in this video, gods and other god-like beings in Genshin will eventually succumb to 'erosion' one day
Zhongli has entrusted Liyue to its people, the Shogun meditates to stave off that erosion... but what of Venti though?
Venti was just a wind spirit once upon a time; is he susceptible to erosion as well?
That's probably why he sleeps for hundreds of years at a time, yeah.
@@Ashikai Wait, Ashikai, I find a similarity here, remember Jirachi from Pokemon? Sleeping a thousand years, grants wishes? Am I going somewhere with this?
@@somnathghosh2671 no... Pokemon logic is way different. Specially legendary and mythical Pokemons
Venti also doesnt rule his people directly, making him a weak god, so maybe its the immense power itself that causes erosion, since delusions feed on life force, maybe gods powers make people angry and feed off of gods emotions and memories because gods cant age like humans do because the gods can shapeshift.
Genshin has so many interesting hidden lore and history. If only the game can do a better job at telling it to us players.
This reminds me of Mesopotamian myth and Marduk. The sons of the gods once slayed their father, and used their body as a home. Tiamat, who grew mad, tried to kill all of them only for the gods to be guided by Marduk and slay her instead, creating the earth and sky.
Once again im out here making connections to SU....dragon heir is like the cluster trying to reform itself. That aside, its honestly interesting how the gods from the archon war never really 'died' I didn't really give it much thought until now and will be paying more attention in story quests to come
"Oh No BuT GeNsHiN ImPaCt DoSeNt HaVe EnOuGh CoNtEnT"
Jokes aside I am so excited for future updates since they teased that will be going to the dark sea/Enkonomiya. Throughout Inazuma I find Watatsumi Island's small lore so interesting since it reminds me of Atlantis and that one children fairy tail whose name I can't remember rn
Ahhh this is the kokomi lore we deserved but didn't get in game... I love this theory, thank you for making me love kokomi more
I am in love with how you turn my skepticism from the start of the video into belief by the end of the video. Thank you so much for your time and effort in making these lore-stuffed videos! I keep looking forward to them :)
I am seriously amazed because what you're saying, it all makes sense. Now that I think about it, corruption/erosion really is the underlying theme of the whole genshin lore. And about Kokomi being the heir of the dragon who was also the previous God of the enkonomiya folks who then went mad because of the corrosion, everything just clicked like while watching this video i kept saying "OHHH" it's just a good feeling.
Great video!
I think erosion can be seen as how humans experience deterioration when aging. Like Alzheimer's and dementia. Which is quite common. It makes them angry, confused and forgetful.
The nostalgia trip from that Okami music...
Also, fun fact: Sayu, who is always sleepy, has Crystal Marrow as an ascension material.
Ikr. its making me want to play the game again for 100th time
with enkonomiya out now i think this video needs a well deserved follow up
About Orobaxi, I got this idea from a comment on a different theory video: if being affected by godly remains is/is like abyssal corruption, what if Orobaxi was corrupted by godly remains? He would've gotten infected during his time on the Dark Sea, or maybe by the coral gifted to him.
If the abyss were made of godly remains, then it means Childe has likely come into contact with them. We pretty much know abyssal influence is rampant on the boy, to the point his ambition changed from 'being a hero' to 'world domination' after falling to the abyss. Similar to how Orobaxi went from a protective deity to trying to takeover Inazuma. I feel like this might make sense, since the poster boy for erosion, Azhdaha, never went to conquer Liyue Harbor (iirc). he only hurt humans because he was hurt by them. this doesn't add up to Orobaxi's attack on Narukami, though he might have just attacked Ei so he doesn't hurt Sangonomiya, as you said.
In any case, this is just an idea I had lol
Soooo.... does neuvilette being the hydro sovereign affect the trout population of this theory...
i love this theory, and it sort of makes sense too, i guess?
This also reminded me of the theory i saw, that the map of tevyat isnt actually being displayed correctly to us, the player, it mentions that the wolf of the north, should be in the north (on top of the map, instead of being in the center ish, at the time of the theory when only liyue and mondstadt were available), perhaps relating to that old theory/fact everyone seemed to have forgotten about, that tevyat is upside down and that something of a calamity turned it all upside down. Can't remember much of it now 😅
It's never been said that Andrius has always resided in Wolvendom though, only that at some point in time he took up residence there.
Also, him being "wolf of the north" of the Four Winds and "king of the north wind" might actually be more figurative than we think, because geographically they don't make sense even if we would flip the map upside down (because then the Temple of the Lion, and Lion was the southern wind, would be further up north than the temple dedicated to Lion of the North)
It may just be more figurative, as in, Wolf of the North commanded the northern winds (which does fit, as "the northern winds" would most likely be cold winds, and Andrius with his winds did create a massive blizzard in almost the entirety of Mondstadt during his conflict with Decarabian), or the names could be representative of just a small portion of Mondstadt's geography, around Windrise - Temple of the Wolf is to the north of Windrise, Temple of the Lion is to it's south, Mondstadt and the Knights of Favonius (which according to Breeze Amidst the Forest is the Falcon of the West), and Dragon of the East would ofc be Dvalin, who can't really be pinpointed to a certain point honestly
EDIT. There is also Temple of the Falcon very nearby Mondstadt city, to the west of Windrise, further helping my point
@@hanako_2137 i think you missed the point there, the wolf was just an example, there were others in that theory but i can't remember them. The point was the calamity and the map potentially being displayed different than it really is.
But yeah, its not confirmed so he might have just wandered into the place
Another great video! The part about gods not being able to die got me wondering if Oz could be that bird we see get slain during Ei's flashback (well and also because of another thing I don't want to spoil for people who haven't seen it yet if you know what I mean).
Your voice is so pleasing to hear...and your videos are so fun and...gosh thank you.
Dunno if this has been said cause I'm late to the party, but:
An "Heir" is used to refer to someone who is *going* to inherit something but does not have it yet - so in this context, a koi fish would absolutely be the Heir to a Dragon.
Just really cool storytelling here.
17:20 imagine if Mihoyo removes the crit debuff from her the next day after her banner ends
thats game breaking right
@@SeeTea13 OH WELL 😩✋
After hearing your arguments i am 99% sure you are right. Nice work Ashikai.
Can't wait for another banger
Interesting. I don't know how you keep coming up with this stuff.
So like Kaushik ( a scholar from Sumeru ) found near the electro archon statue on Watatsumi Island talks about his discovery of totems which shows 2 snake gods.
Kaushik: My conclusion is that ancient Inazuma must have played host to two snake gods!
Kaushik: One of them was enjoined with coral and could not move, thus creating Sangonomiya Shrine. Its true divine form dwelled within Enkanomiya deep below, forever defending the people of Watatsumi Island.
Kaushik: As for the other snake god, it was a most ambitious being that dreamed of invading Narukami Island, but was cut down by the Electro Archon as it was making its way there.
Kaushik: See? This totem shows snake patterns with coral on them on one end, and patterns that completely lack them on the other. And that's how you know this is the truth!
It's funny, I was actually talking with a friend of mine about Kokomi and the connections to Ryujin. For some extra tidbits I would like to add, Ryujin was also known to have lived at the bottom of the ocean, residing in a palace made of coral. As it happens, that is exactly what "Sangonomiya" means, "Coral palace." While Kokomi's name means "heart of the ocean," literally just combining 'kokoro' and 'umi' together. And from what I found online, it's also believed that "Owatatsumi-no-kami" was just another name _for_ Ryujin.
(Usually in Japanese, whenever they add an 'o' it means "great." So if you've ever played Ookami, that's why there are two 'o' and not one. "Okami" means "wolf," but 'kami' also means 'god', so in a sense, the game's name is a bunch of wordplay for "great wolf god")
Another amazing video! Really makes me appreciate Watatsumi a lot more!
There is a sumeru researcher in the island saying there are two gods people of watasumi island but is think he never explained much. Go to the right side of the circle when you teleported to the statue of seven there and you will find him eventually
u r so good omg.. the fact that u made this in 2.1 is crazy.. thank u for this theory!
this was supposed to be kokomi's ult. "summons a titanic snake dragon thing.."
Aaaaa the Okami OST and clips on this one!! It's my favorite game of all time so that made me happy. Also very on point since the Watatsumi island pastel coral aesthetic always reminded me of the Dragon Palace in Okami (fitting since king Wada aka the water dragon IS supposed to be based on myth Watatsumi)
Excellent theory, there's definitely something fishy (hurr hurr) going on with Sangonomiya's shape and the inconsistencies of Orobaxi's story. Also, idk if you've touched it in another video but now that we're talking about tataragami and the evil the yakshas fight (both linked to plagues and disease in fact). I wonder if Decarabian's remains and wrath ever cause this grief in Mondstadt. I think the storms around Stormterror's Lair are part of that, the result of the explosion when he died similar to Havria's salt. But was that all? How did Barbatos handle it? Did he yeet it far? Did it cause disease and madness? I'd love to see a Mondstadt quest (Venti's second character quest?) where we touch upon that, because that country feels too peaceful a couple of rebellions aside.
The theories, as always, amazing and beyond wonderful ^_^. But what really touched me were all those Okami soundtracks in the background. Literally started to tear up from the memories
Gyarados is my favourite water type pokemon. Maybe it's a sign, I should become Kokomi main and wait till the game allows her to evolve.
This was certainly a good watch. Great job!
Hi Ashi, in last video you referred paimon as the StarKeeper and it sounds interesting. But after what we have with guoba the god of stove, it becomes more and more likely that paimon is the Sustainer. Now we know that a god becomes smaller after losing its power, and paimon likes just like a young version of Sustainer. The Sustainer has the herrscher pupil while paimon's looks plain which might indicates the power they got. There is also an interesting pattern in Genshin scripts that the traveller meets people with hidden identity. We helped Zhongli to farewell Morax, we fought Azhdaha with Kunjun, we search for the god of stove with guoba nearby. See? We might be going for the Sustainer with paimon too.
I once got very confused why the sustainer spared with the traveller's life if she was hostile. Maybe the Sustainer is "the keeper that is fading away", and she wanted the traveller to be "the creator that has not yet come. This also goes in line with the story of Genesis Pearl very well.
I don't disagree but I don't understand why the event information makes it more likely that paimon is susty...
@@Ashikai Because the event confirms that a god can lose part of its power then change its looking.
@@zzZ-hp9je we already knew that though. The only thing the event confirmed is that gods can't be completely killed.
Sustainer didn't spare traveller's life , she knew the traveller's potential so she sealed traveller
@@Ashikai The part that gods can't be completely killed is doubting. The god of salt seemed to be dead completely, while some of her power remains.
Thank you for your theories!! I super appreciate your deep dive and research about the lore that I would never even come to understand while playing the game.
Absolutely loved this take. I always thought Kokomi being a koi was just an aesthetic choice but this is so much better
What a great theory! I love it :D I also love all the general lore, myths, history... so much to learn from you!!
(Also: great use of the Ookami OST. Had to rewind some times, cause I focused too hard on the music, though x'D Ah, the nostalgia!)
this theory lowkey made me feel so emotional;; i LOVED every bit of it! thank u so much for putting out such amazing content, ashikai!
Love this theory!! the everlasting moonglow item lore also talks about watatsumi and th3ir divine priestess (it’s too difficult for me to understand but I think there’s some strong correlation to the points you made)
Now about Erosion there actually are two places we some something similar but different. The Corrosion from the Spiral Abyss and the Wolves from the 2.2 trailer are black with violet accents just like the Tartagami mist with Traveler was in when they confronted Scaramouche. We also know Raiden’s friend Chiyo was consumed by an Abyssal Monster but wasn’t killed, just stuck. After escaping she became corrupted and violent and we know the 2.2 Wolf monsters are from the Abyss. It’s possible Orobashi, after entering the dark sea, was tainted by the abyss only protected by the coral and after creating Watatsumi island slowly became corroded.
In fact the main difference between corrosion and erosion in science is that erosion is natural and slowly removes parts while corrosion is destruction of material. If Orobashi’s mind corroded similar to Chiyo it would would explain its violent and uncharacteristic behavior.
Wow, this video aged so well (there a few misses, like for example Orobashi's erosion), but overall I'm really impressed with how accurate it is for how long ago it was made.
i remember this scene at the start of genshin comic where venti literally appears out of nowhere asking himself "how long... have i slept?"
does venti just wake up every 500 hundred years to just.. check on his people and help if there is anything bad happening?
for example, 1000 years ago, venti took down the aristocracy (the lawrence clan), then he woke up again during the cataclysm and now he woke up and saved dvalin
i do understand venti is the god of freedom and does not want to rule his people, but what if another reason for this is to preserve himself as he currently is and not get effected by erosion?
Probably yeah.
To build off this, if you read the flavor text on the koi during the fishing event, they say that the koi are related to dragons.
I'm so mad I forgot to include this omg
I don't know if anyone brought it up yet, but at 4:30 the part of the story that talks about sacrificing 8 children of the couple, 7 of which die, it immediately made me think of the Sunchildren!! There were 7 in total according to lore, and we all know they were sacrificed to their artificial sun. I'm not quite sure what this would actually mean, but I found the coincidence interesting
Ashikai, I'm so in love with your theories and narration. I wonder what you would think about the possibility of su making an appearance in genshin.
Please continue to keep up the amazing work and rest well! Much love
Su is already here. Take a closer look at Kaeya.
Such a intriguing theory, love your content and I can never get enough of your videos.
Love your lore content one of the best genshin lore creators out there never lose your enthusiasm and have fun you are great!
I agree that orobashi might experience erosion, but part of it i also thinks that the cataclysm might just be one with also great effect on orabashi going all rampage to ei. If i remember correctly, the cataclysm also affects ei's friend, the oni one, which also caused her to go rampage and ei ended up having to cute her friends horns and other body parts and she ended up dying from there. Its much to a matter of timing, so if ei slayed orabashi before the cataclysm/long after the cataclysm big chance that your theory are, indeed correct.
We've since gotten new info on Orobashi's possible motives from a new book you can buy at the Yae Publishing house.
Ngl, this makes hella sense. Also Ms. Betty Crockermi (that’s Kokomi’s nickname, Idk where it came from) has her small hair accessory that looks like maybe one day it could form into huge dragon horns with time (I believe the hair accessory is a baby dragon horn hair accessory is what I’m getting at, not that it’s actually attached to her head).
Either way, I love the whole fish/oto-hime sort of vibe she has going for her and if Watatsumi really -is- made on the corpse of the old dragon deity, it really makes sense that it’s all fish/sea creature themed.
I just read a theory about kokomi (since i haven't done explore enkanomiya and i don't have kokomi). I remember this video, and ngl your your video is always awesome. The details info and the research, i love it Kokomi's constellation looks like the new vishap, i don't remember their name. Maybe the theory is true that kokomi is the descendant of the (whatever) vishap.
This theory, and that quest, reminded me of that one frame of the traveler drowning and the shadow of a big thing moving in the background way back in the 2.0 trailer. At that point I thought it was the Overlord of the Vortex, and a teaser for the continuation of We will be reunited, since we can all assume that the Abyss Order now has everything they need to go on with their plan of modifying the Overlord's body.
I don't think they have used that footage anywhere in the game so far, so maybe they'll eventually use it in a quest related to Sangonomiya?? I'm pretty sure the Watatsumi priestess at the end of the quest said that one day she might need us to help her again. I would really like Enkonomiya to be some sort of expansion to Inazuma, like Dragonspine and the Chasm are to Mondstadt and Liyue
Now I'm waiting for the gameplay changing skin (like in honkai) who will make of Kokomi a S tier unit. This way I will be mocking the people that told me that pulling for her was stupid! Mouhahah! (
ashikai your theories changed me
I know this video is old and the lore of Orobashi arrival to Enkanomiya has been changed but I wanted to add something!
This thing you said about the Chinese serpent god and marriage is very interesting, as theres this Liyue book about the human wife of the god of the sea (Palace Beneath the Sea). And my theory always was that Orobashi was one of the sea monsters/gods of the sea who Morax sealed in the deep of the ocean. In fact, it is said that Orobashi fled Teyvat cause he was unable to defeat the "golden god", and in Enkanomiya theres this ongoing theme about Dragons VS Serpents... (Ye, Vishaps! But Liyue is also very VERY related to vishaps.....). However, if Orobashi just fled from Teyvat, why he was trapped down in Enkanomiya, that he had to break the seal for them to go back to the surface? He wanted to break free from his prison, I guess. Funny that you get sealed by a god and when you finally find a way out that god's bosses force you to sacrifice yourself because you read a book hahah However, in this, I think Celestia gave him no choice. He had enough motives to attack the other island, but I think inmolating himself and "surrendering his people" for the Shogun to rule over them was the only way Celestia could allow Enkanomiya people them back. No other gods but The Seven, no mention to the previous history of Teyvat, no nothing.
(Unrelated, but my actual hot take is that Orobashi was also Xiao's former master and was who caused the flood who killed Guizhong but lets set that aside for a while…)
Going back to Enkanomiyas dragons, after seeing this video I believe even more that Kokomi's lineage is a vessel made in Enkanomiya for the primordial sovereign Dragon of Water. Maybe Orobashi wasnt trying to stop his comeback, maybe he was trying to bring back a powerful ally against Celestia.
Sorry for the babbling, Ive loved this video and now I wonder if the ancient dragon god of enkanomiya was the remains of the Dragon of Water or if it was just part of the legend Watatsumi people were forced to tell in order to hice their real origins. Maybe I missed something!
It is said that the Corals were also used as a ladder to bring the people from Enkanomiya to Sangonomiya, and the fact that Orobaxi was a giant snake - and snakes regularly shed their skin - makes me think that that the Coiled shape of Watatsumi Island is just the shape left in place when our Snake boi finally shed off his skin, Corals with it. The Coil can instead be called a Spiral, and the ladder created from the Corals is pretty much just the Spiral staircase that Orobashi created by Coiling up from the Abyss to Teyvat (or rather, he swam up in a Coil with the people onboard like the most fabulous spaceship the Abyss had ever seen; imagine all that shining, colourful Coral gliding up in a helical shape).
The whole thing about finding the right time to reopen the barrier between Enka and Sango sounds a whole lot like plate tectonics. Coral islands tend to form around volcanic islands over tectonic hot spots; over time the volcanic island will erode away once the hotspot migrates from under that location on the Earth's crust. The island will erode down to sea level and even further, and the coral grows around it to form an atoll with a shallow lagoon in the middle, which is what the Island looks like to me, aside from the lack of visible coral. This can be explained by the fact that sediment and whatnot accumulates on the coral and can form a proper island over time. With this analogy, Enka and Sango would be most connected when the 'hotspot' is back underneath Watatsumi Island, and the hotspot itself refers to some such Spirit Veins, which I think is just Ley Lines? Man, is Teyvat really just an inverted Earth? Like, it would make sense for people to be suffering when they're on the wrong side of the Dyson Sphere.
Bleaching is also a natural phenomenon that corals undergo when the conditions (temperature, pH levels, etc.) change beyond tolerance. Considering the Corals were brought from the Abyss, it would make sense for them to bleach and lose vitality in the drastically different [assumption] environment of Teyvat; then you have to go down to Enka and get some of the Corals that Oroboi left to suppress the Dragonheir to revitalise the Island - over time they bleach again, so you have to do it over and over again until the Dragonheir wakes up and eats everything in sight. I think this loss of vitality and bleaching is not exclusive to the Corals; the Mare Jivari is the first thing I thought of when I heard what would be the consequences of letting Watatsumi bleach all the way.
It is a form of erosion, and we know now by the Moonchase cutscene that the land can erode AND can be revitalised by "Divine" (whatever that means) power being imbued into it. Land can also hold grudges like dead gods do, as from the Thunder Manifestation's (that one, pissed tf off Electro Specter) description. Naturally, this "Divine" power can come from something that was found in the Abyss, obviously. Although, in the case of the Corals and Watatsumi's fertility, it seems more like the Vitality wants to return to the Abyss where it came from, and that bringing some Coral back up is more to placate it rather than resupply it (it could also just be both).
Kokomo's old design, Momo, had a hairpiece that was a white (bleached) coral; Kokomo's hairpiece is shaped like fins - a *real*, short-term, crack theory here; Koko is an Enka sleeper agent impostor, the real Sango Heiress is actually Momo still, but I digress. Kokomo's hairpiece reminds me of the unagi that we can farm for unagi meat, and the unagi themselves reminded me of Oroboi (or you could say that the hairpiece is meant to mimic the tiny horns on Oroboi's snout), but try as I might I could not draw a connection to the in game Koi ('false dragons'). Because they are so similar, the distinct differences make them that much more separate.
It's funny considering how Orobashi was probably very weak without the Coral (why he got clapped by Raiden), and the unagi themselves are so easy to farm while the Koi are a pain to catch. But the Rusty Koi's description makes me think that the old Dragonheir may have once been the owner of the Corals; *however*, they weakened him immensely so he threw them off and that was when Oroboi found them, except in his case it made him super stronk. I mean, the Golden Koi to Rusty Koi evolution is the exact opposite of the Adorned Unagi to Red-Finned Unagi maturation - in both cases, once the transition is made, the value or strength of the creature is heightened. Reading the Golden Koi description, there's the distinct possibility that Oroboi snatched the Corals from the Dragonheir and unwittingly unleashed a beast onto the Enkanomites, then, feeling guilty, saved them all and bonded with them and took them to Teyvat, buried DH under his Corals and left in peace.
I also think the reason Oroboi attacked Inazuma in the first place has less to do with erosion and more to do with the rules of the Archon War since his death coincides with the timeline of the War itself. There probably was no place for any gods to properly exist on Teyvat other than those who would be given the Gnoses, so he launched a futile, desparate attack on Raiden in the hopes that he would secure a place in Teyvat for his people with Gnosis in hand, but alas, his people were allowed to stay anyway (maybe he told Raiden what he was doing? I wonder why he couldn't have just pulled an Andrius though).
Unagi burrow into the mud... did Oroboi burrow through to Teyvat from the Abyss? Maybe he did that often because he liked the warmth of Teyvat like how the Unagi like to sunbathe? Is that why there's a giant hole in the middle of the Island?
WAIT A MINUTE, IT'S A LITERAL WORM(SNAKE)HOLE
Wow
I’m not going to read this
@rekka6366 this was a lot and very interesting! Thinking if it taking place during the archon war is intriguing too. The DH seems like a very interesting being coming from the dark sea/aybss
and Ashikai does it again ! Your theories continue to make the lore more sense(even though its just a theory) :D thanks for this ! this was both entertaining and interesting to watch
My theory is that Orobashi is linked to the Gnostic Chorus story. We see a serpent wrapping around a large oyster housing the Genesis pearl, which coincides with Sangonomiya Shrine being a huge oyster and Kokomi being called the Pearl of Wisdom (in the Bible, Genesis tells how the fall of man came from possessing certain knowledge or wisdom they should not have). In underground Inazuma, we see murals mentioning an ancient civilization in the sky (or something like that), which also references that kingdom in the sky in the Gnostic Chorus. These murals are both in Inazuma and in Dragonspine, which is also shown simultaneously in the Gnostic Chorus. My guess is that Orobashi might have found or protected the pearl when he defeated the dragonheir and perhaps the divine priestesses of watatsumi island are either secretly protecting these pearls or are reincarnations of the pearl themselves. The Gnostic Chorus shows a black serpent, which could mean this might not be Orobashi (since they are a white serpent) but rather the dragonheir ( or it could reference Orobashi succumbing to erosion since erosion causes a black aura).
That giant portal black hole thingy in the middle of Watatsumi Island is triggering my Thalassophobia. great theory though!
When you talked about Benzaiten I immediately thought of Benzaiten Biwaki from “The Mimic” in Roblox, if you haven’t already you should try making a theory on the creatures lol
I haven't gotten that far with this video, but something you didn't mention with the name of the snake is that it's very close to the name of uroboros! Which is usually depicted as a snake eating it's own tail!
Just a small thing, love your theories and they're always so interesting c:
It's not, actually, at least not in my opinion. The original name, Orobashi or Orobaxi is just the way that you would pronounce Orobas in Japanese and Chinese respectively. Ourobouros would have been something more like "Oroborosu," iirc, which is a little less similar than the Romanized, "orobashi vs ourobouros." Apart from both being snakes, there's very little to connect them.
@@Ashikai Ooohh I see!! I suppose it was just the similar pronunciation that got me to think about Ouroboros. Though I do think there is some connection with the topic of rebirth when looking into Orobashi and Ouroboros. Perhaps it's just me looking too deep into it...But the whole dragon god's body sort of being "reborn" into what we now know as Watatsumi Island.
Though there are a lot of relations with rebirth when it comes to Genshin's story haha.