one feature i dont see anyone talking about is the fact that audio output in settings now has an option for "system setting" which means your audio will automatically change based on what your system does, for example if you have headphones connected and you unplug them, ableton will automatically switch to whatever your system does rather than coming up with the message "audio engine is off" which is super handy for us laptop producers that are constantly switching outputs
@@miownize6130 I was trying to figure that out too and ended up seeing the shortcut key on the Info View window on the bottom left while having a MIDI clip open. Basically you press and hold E first and then hold Ctrl and then it'll activate the cursor while you hover over a MIDI note! For Windows: E + Ctrl (Chop note - Dragging)
@@miownize6130 Hold E first then hold Ctrl after while cursor is hovering over a midi note and you'll be able to drag it up and down to chop! Also, if you have a midi note selected Hold Ctrl first + E, you can use your up and down arrow keys to chop the notes
people just saw the 2 minute trailer video and assume the update was lacking. The more I learn about Live 12 the more I realize how huge the update is. Piano Roll is just as good as FL studio.
Ableton marketing team knows how to get out of the way and let the community flex 💪 which is the real value. You can find a legit deep dive on just about any button in every Ableton product. Blender is like this for visual production.
The arpeggiate in MIDI is going to me life changing for me. I’ve been setting up multiple tracks and bouncing MIDI from one track to another to edit arpeggios. So dope.
This is definitely a bigger upgrade than 10 was going to 11. It would be super dope if you could have session view inside of arrangement view and watch your performance get recorded in real time on one screen. The piano roll is looking fantastic. As far as drums it would put it on par with FL if you could change the pitch of a drum sample without having to put it in it's own separate track.
I'm ngl. What the creator of FL did with was absolutely genius & ahead of its time. You can alter the pitch, pan, filter & resonance properties of a sample on a per note basis... like whaat 🤯🤯
@@VanceSwango per note basis thats a feature fl took from music 2000 / mtv musicgenerator a beat making game/program on the playstation 1 where i started they where ahead of their time
@@lanadamusic yeah, you solved the top comment, just enable the second window. People asking for things that are already there is why we cant have nice things
The live chop @ 7:44 makes it more like a physical and kinetic action, harkening back to when we used to splice magnetic tape. Thanks for calling this out!
The triple mixer, clip, device view is so fire... that would've been enough for me AND all the piano roll stuff..I'm gonna be playing around for hours lol
for me: piano roll in 12 still doesn't (have an option to) remember the last "clicked in" or drawn midi note length (in a clip), which FL's Piano Roll does easily and instantly by default also, no ability to turn off (disable) "all devices and instruments per track" to save CPU (which is honestly mind-boggling that they don't feel that's important, of value, or easy to implement) without having to do the Freeze as well as "hide/unhide tracks" (as per Bitwig)
The ability to turn off per track might have to do with their code architecture. It may look simple from feature point of view. But, in term of code it might be difficult without code refactoring.
@@thegoldenseedThanks for the reply ! I can manually turn off all the devices on a track. All I was looking for: is a hotkey (or a small icon object) that would turn off all the devices in a track, versus me having to do it manually. Something like: Control-Shift Mute button (maybe) to "Disable Track". For now, I'll stick with Freeze Track to save the CPU resources : )
Copped the upgrade from 10 - 12.1 today, after not upgrading since 2019. As an ex FL producer, I’m so glad the piano roll is getting there, I’ve missed it
Hey man! I have been watching many previews on 12, but yours is the most work related and practical one. I can really see the potential now. I didn't get my beta testing spot yet but now I know: Must upgrade!
LP user. This is the update that I think will get me to switch. The piano roll has been lacking in Ableton and this looks fire. Love the transform features.
@@jn1346 wow you’re soo smart why didn’t i think of that 🤦🏽♂️i been using ableton live for 5 years and u think i don’t know Max4live wow you’re soo smart 😂
I knew I had to upgrade after seeing what they were adding to MIDI editing. Ableton guys used to complain that we didn’t have control over manipulating MIDI in ways FL guys could. With this update, there’s no need to complain. The note chop and ramp features alone got me excited. The crazy thing is this is just 12.0. Where will they take the updates after this? Live 12 is amazing. I have no need to go to FL unless I’m collaborating.
latch for drawing is maybe my fave of these second to the ramp setting thanks for drums that knock and all the crazy jams i see on ig. can’t wait for this to drop so i can get that free trial
I wonder if the new MIDI features will allow you to make a group of notes end at the same place without having to edit each individual note. On Logic Pro, you just hit option and selected note ends will snap together. Very useful when recording in chords on MIDI keyboard and then cleaning up after. As of L11 you must keep relative note lengths.
Thanks for making this video! Can't wait to dive in with the new midi editing capabilities. A long time waiting for these improvements! That said, Ableton user since v1 here! hopefully Ableton can get me going on the beta soon. 🤞😆
getting back into ableton coming from version 9...all the piano roll stuff is crazy...i remember drawing in strums, ghost notes, rolls, editing all the velocity etc. this is going to be fun(:
You might have changed my mind. I didn't really care about a lot of the stuff that was added/changed - maybe I will change my mind when I actually use the feature - but the piano roll features need a full on tutorial to understand how much cool stuff has been added.
I´m wondering how the new browser search functions will mess up the harddrive space and speed. They need to save all those huge library setting somewhere.
I love that they kept the most important feature in all of Live: the X-Y control zone beside plugins. Let’s hope that they add that black thing to native devices too when version 13 comes out
I own both FL and Ableton and the FL piano roll is almost unbeatable but what is unbeatable and will alwyays keep FL winning is the lifetime FREE updates. With that said great job with the demo. You made me feel better about upgrading from 11 to 12... Salute DeCAP!
I like to produce mostly with my Push 2 so it would be great to see how these new features are incorporated, if at all, using the Push 2 or 3. Ableton doesn't like to provide many features on the Push so I'm not counting on it.
I've seen several reviews they all showed many things related to the piano roll and were nice but none mentioned the strum. And the rhythm generator is awesome too. Now I'm very excited. I already signed up to buy it when it is released.
If the strum is what you are after take a look at the max device 'sculptor' it's free and has more features than the new Ableton Piano roll. Honestly if you dig into Max 4 Live devices you don't need the ultra expensive 'upgrade'
Thanks for this video. It was very good. I like the rhythim generated in the last part a lot. I'm not good in finger drumming. Always end up with the same stuff. There's a lot to experiment with these new tools.
Been using Studio One for ever since version 2. Ableton has opened so much possibilities in the creative universe that I never could in SO. Once you get the grid, you go SO LIGHTING FAST!
Ableton 12 is a great delivery. I love the browser. Your presentation right of the bat is analytical skillful and interesting all enhancements super cool. Asante sana😊❤️👍🏼
We STILL NEED A "bounce group(s) to stems" feature ... i emailed them and was told it was being evaluated however i dont know if they implemented it yet. Also for creating sample libraries a quick drag and drop of audio into a folder that would create a .wav file with the efx on it would be fire
If any update to any software you use regularly speeds up your workflow- even if by 10%, it’s worth every penny. I see how this will save me an hour plus every session. Easily. Huge win. Great video thank you.
Yess now it’s got the logic / protools feature ! It’s way better now along with with wave form! Its awesome 👏🏿 I’m sold on this A 1:59 Along with similarly search ! It’s so dope !!!!!!!!!!
The hate is mostly because it feels more like an update rather than an upgrade This feels like Ableton Live 11+ rather than 12 FL studio is the biggest competitor and it has had these features for almost a decade Ableton wants to charge you for something that should have been an update I use both FL studio and Ableton and i dont see a reason to pay for features that ive had for over a decade in FL I also use Cubase and most of this has been in Cubase for years
FLStudio literally wasn't Ableton, and Ableton have their own "One Pager" & "Live" flow, that was crushing the other DAW, because other DAW like to obstructing the screen all the time yes, Ableton didn't have that one feature that FL had, but, FL also are fundamentally flawed beyond repair, and it took hack after hack just to patch up their fundamental mistake. but, regardless, both are completely usable to procuce real music
As decap said these are convenience updates, not just absolute game changers. If you know how to use 2 or more daws efficiently, you can make the same quality of beats in any of those daws. Ableton had some features that fl didnt have for decades and vice versa. People really need to get out of their comfort zone and understand the world doesnt revolve around just their bubble, therefore all those negative opinions.
Anyone know why Ableton live 12 doesn't show the VST folders anymore? Its all VSTS now and no folders...so now I don't know what is what cause everything was organize by folder names!
one feature i dont see anyone talking about is the fact that audio output in settings now has an option for "system setting" which means your audio will automatically change based on what your system does, for example if you have headphones connected and you unplug them, ableton will automatically switch to whatever your system does rather than coming up with the message "audio engine is off" which is super handy for us laptop producers that are constantly switching outputs
Glad to see this comment. Always been a frustration of mine. I even have to restart ableton sometimes so it sees the new audio output device lol
This was available in Ableton 11. At least on Mac. Hadn’t noticed it in any previous version
@@rahdays2 i have a mac and i couldn’t do that on live 11 but i also have a cracked version so maybe i didn’t get the update for it before live 12
@@zappers1000 ong its hella frustrating
Good to know bro! Thank you🤞🏿
Shortcuts:
6:50 - Cmd + E (Chop note - Grid)
7:33 - Shift + E (Chop note - Cursor)
7:54 - Opt + E (Chop note - Dragging)
10:05 - Cmd + J (Merge notes)
10:22 - Cmd + Opt + J (Extend note - Time range)
13:15 - Cmd + Shift + U (Quantize notes)
15:50 - Hold Down B (Draw - Latch tool)
Techniques:
8:55 - Ramp (Velocity Ramp)
10:57 - Fold/Scale (Only shows scale in Piano Roll)
11:14 - Add Intervals
12:08 - Arpeggiator
12:41 - Flam (Drums/Lead)
13:15 - Quantize Menu
13:30 - Strum Menu
14:28 - Velocity Shaper
15:07 - Time Warp
16:21 - Rhythm Generator
whats the windows equivalent to Opt + E? i tried Alt + E and didnt get the dragging
@@miownize6130Same question
@@miownize6130E and then CTRL
@@miownize6130 I was trying to figure that out too and ended up seeing the shortcut key on the Info View window on the bottom left while having a MIDI clip open. Basically you press and hold E first and then hold Ctrl and then it'll activate the cursor while you hover over a MIDI note!
For Windows: E + Ctrl (Chop note - Dragging)
@@miownize6130 Hold E first then hold Ctrl after while cursor is hovering over a midi note and you'll be able to drag it up and down to chop! Also, if you have a midi note selected Hold Ctrl first + E, you can use your up and down arrow keys to chop the notes
Never peeped the ramp feature that’s sick
The drum stuff at the end is wild. Love it
people just saw the 2 minute trailer video and assume the update was lacking. The more I learn about Live 12 the more I realize how huge the update is. Piano Roll is just as good as FL studio.
Ableton marketing team knows how to get out of the way and let the community flex 💪 which is the real value. You can find a legit deep dive on just about any button in every Ableton product. Blender is like this for visual production.
No it isn’t
@@Closedgoodbye it absolutely fricking is
I was worried at first but after watching this demonstration of Ableton 12, I’m definitely upgrading. Appreciate this.
Same
The arpeggiate in MIDI is going to me life changing for me. I’ve been setting up multiple tracks and bouncing MIDI from one track to another to edit arpeggios. So dope.
Same here
yeah the piano roll was one of the biggest things I missed from FL, you definitely sold me for upgrading!
This is definitely a bigger upgrade than 10 was going to 11. It would be super dope if you could have session view inside of arrangement view and watch your performance get recorded in real time on one screen. The piano roll is looking fantastic. As far as drums it would put it on par with FL if you could change the pitch of a drum sample without having to put it in it's own separate track.
I'm ngl. What the creator of FL did with was absolutely genius & ahead of its time. You can alter the pitch, pan, filter & resonance properties of a sample on a per note basis... like whaat 🤯🤯
@@VanceSwango per note basis thats a feature fl took from music 2000 / mtv musicgenerator a beat making game/program on the playstation 1 where i started they where ahead of their time
You have a workaround enabling second window. It's handier if you have a second screen ofc
@@lanadamusic yeah, you solved the top comment, just enable the second window. People asking for things that are already there is why we cant have nice things
it's a good update, the problem is that it's just a couple years late if you compare it to where other daw's are atm.
The live chop @ 7:44 makes it more like a physical and kinetic action, harkening back to when we used to splice magnetic tape. Thanks for calling this out!
I really didn't care about upgrading until I watched this. Now I have to get it!
Big Dog! You’re an inspiration.
Ableton finally did it @7:00 !!! The Views is awesome as welll 🙌🙌🙌
The triple mixer, clip, device view is so fire... that would've been enough for me AND all the piano roll stuff..I'm gonna be playing around for hours lol
for me: piano roll in 12 still doesn't (have an option to) remember the last "clicked in" or drawn midi note length (in a clip), which FL's Piano Roll does easily and instantly by default
also, no ability to turn off (disable) "all devices and instruments per track" to save CPU (which is honestly mind-boggling that they don't feel that's important, of value, or easy to implement) without having to do the Freeze
as well as "hide/unhide tracks" (as per Bitwig)
The ability to turn off per track might have to do with their code architecture. It may look simple from feature point of view. But, in term of code it might be difficult without code refactoring.
@@thegoldenseedThanks for the reply !
I can manually turn off all the devices on a track. All I was looking for: is a hotkey (or a small icon object) that would turn off all the devices in a track, versus me having to do it manually. Something like: Control-Shift Mute button (maybe) to "Disable Track".
For now, I'll stick with Freeze Track to save the CPU resources : )
Copped the upgrade from 10 - 12.1 today, after not upgrading since 2019. As an ex FL producer, I’m so glad the piano roll is getting there, I’ve missed it
Hey man! I have been watching many previews on 12, but yours is the most work related and practical one. I can really see the potential now. I didn't get my beta testing spot yet but now I know: Must upgrade!
concur
@@dkkrecords ✌️
Sure! Presentation matters. Part of data analytics skill. Great workflow demo here.
LP user. This is the update that I think will get me to switch. The piano roll has been lacking in Ableton and this looks fire. Love the transform features.
Im excited for the Note chops we can now do, definitely was reason I wanted to use Fruity Loops, but now Imma give Ableton another go 🙏🏼
Is a dope update, if only they can also give us Audio Pitch correction Tool soo we can use Ableton Live without switching DAWs for Audio Editing
Agree
Then it would have been worth the high uprade price
Just get a max for live device ? Tons of free pitch correction.
@@jn1346 wow you’re soo smart why didn’t i think of that 🤦🏽♂️i been using ableton live for 5 years and u think i don’t know Max4live wow you’re soo smart 😂
@@jn1346something good Like autotune or even so precise like melodyne?
Really informative video. There were a few tips in there I haven't seen mentioned before. Question: what drum kit are you using in addictive?
Ableton Live 12 might be the first release I'll finally be satisfied with.
If Ableton ever became a web app with cloud storage, I'd be in heaven.
Thanks bro…you can also use the arrow key to search throuh the similar sounds..just going up and down… so much easier than clicking each one
11:44 almost plays You Are My Sunshine
how is the issue for cpu handling? is it better than Live 11 ? in your video it show a lot of cpu handling ? hmmm?
Many people are reporting performance improvements
This was a better video than alot of the ableton12 promos ive seen so far
Definitely a quality of life update. Idk why people are mad. Be grateful you get anything at all.
Totally agree!
Can't wait to work with live 12
I'm on 10, the 12 I'm already in love with it
MAnnnnn I needed this exact review of 12. Thank you. PRE-ORDERED
This is the demo that I needed. Thanks for this video man.
I knew I had to upgrade after seeing what they were adding to MIDI editing.
Ableton guys used to complain that we didn’t have control over manipulating MIDI in ways FL guys could. With this update, there’s no need to complain.
The note chop and ramp features alone got me excited.
The crazy thing is this is just 12.0. Where will they take the updates after this?
Live 12 is amazing. I have no need to go to FL unless I’m collaborating.
latch for drawing is maybe my fave of these second to the ramp setting thanks for drums that knock and all the crazy jams i see on ig. can’t wait for this to drop so i can get that free trial
I wonder if the new MIDI features will allow you to make a group of notes end at the same place without having to edit each individual note. On Logic Pro, you just hit option and selected note ends will snap together. Very useful when recording in chords on MIDI keyboard and then cleaning up after. As of L11 you must keep relative note lengths.
Thanks for making this video! Can't wait to dive in with the new midi editing capabilities. A long time waiting for these improvements! That said, Ableton user since v1 here! hopefully Ableton can get me going on the beta soon. 🤞😆
Just bought ableton and got the free upgrade yesterday, I’m super hype! I can’t wait to play around in the piano roll especially
7:53 this feature alone almost made me hop over to FL. Glad it’s in ableton too
Decap you representing me live12 is lit
how do you do the shortcut at 8:02 on windows?
Hold Shift + E then hold Control. Kinda wonky
The piano roll updates are HUGE!
getting back into ableton coming from version 9...all the piano roll stuff is crazy...i remember drawing in strums, ghost notes, rolls, editing all the velocity etc. this is going to be fun(:
Stoked on it.
These changes are amazing and you showed more interesting features than the other videos I was already hyped on! Can't wait for release 🔥
Awesome feature overview, thank you! 👍💯
You might have changed my mind. I didn't really care about a lot of the stuff that was added/changed - maybe I will change my mind when I actually use the feature - but the piano roll features need a full on tutorial to understand how much cool stuff has been added.
19:35 that snare roll is so gooood.
I´m wondering how the new browser search functions will mess up the harddrive space and speed. They need to save all those huge library setting somewhere.
Has there been any improvement on the CPU usage ? Great Video btw !
I love that they kept the most important feature in all of Live: the X-Y control zone beside plugins. Let’s hope that they add that black thing to native devices too when version 13 comes out
Hahahah facts
finally a proper ableton 12 tutorial... thanks boss !
Yea.... looks like i'm upgrading. You're a good salesman Decap. Even though this could have been put in ableton 11.
Thank you Decap!
I own both FL and Ableton and the FL piano roll is almost unbeatable but what is unbeatable and will alwyays keep FL winning is the lifetime FREE updates. With that said great job with the demo. You made me feel better about upgrading from 11 to 12... Salute DeCAP!
True.
Do you recommend any videos about FL's piano roll? I'd like to see what it is capable of.
@@AykutKlc i don’t have any specific videos to recommend however, a general search for FL Piano Roll will yield plenty good results.
FL Studio has its own way of doing things or making work easier I think so
Thank you !
I like to produce mostly with my Push 2 so it would be great to see how these new features are incorporated, if at all, using the Push 2 or 3. Ableton doesn't like to provide many features on the Push so I'm not counting on it.
can we extract multiple chains from the drum rack or is it still 1 by 1 ??
I saw Omari messing with Ableton 12. the updates look great
I've seen several reviews they all showed many things related to the piano roll and were nice but none mentioned the strum. And the rhythm generator is awesome too. Now I'm very excited. I already signed up to buy it when it is released.
If the strum is what you are after take a look at the max device 'sculptor' it's free and has more features than the new Ableton Piano roll. Honestly if you dig into Max 4 Live devices you don't need the ultra expensive 'upgrade'
Damn the interval thing crazy
Amazing video! I was not fully aware of all the new capabilities until I saw this!
I’ve avoided most AB 12 videos.
I’m sold with the first one 😂 thx man
FU***G STRUMMING !!! Was so much needed
THE LATCH /OOOOO
huge. im going to use all of those features daily. ive been needing tools forever.
Thanks for this video. It was very good. I like the rhythim generated in the last part a lot. I'm not good in finger drumming. Always end up with the same stuff. There's a lot to experiment with these new tools.
off topic but what preset are you using in addictive drums 2?
Have they taken away the MPE feature with simpler that allowed us to do 808 slides?
What Addictive Drums kit were you using? Sounds really dope!
Dude the drum rack similarity search feature is awesome. I hate navigating through sounds one by one. Great stuff!
Been using Studio One for ever since version 2. Ableton has opened so much possibilities in the creative universe that I never could in SO. Once you get the grid, you go SO LIGHTING FAST!
Live 12 is amazing!
much love! that beat you did with jacos bass was dope asf....
that drum stuff is cray
Where did you get your hat?
Thank You for sharing! Dope video!
GOOD WORK DECAP, I will watch more from you & Good Lookin' On The Tips & Tricks.
Ableton 12 is a great delivery. I love the browser. Your presentation right of the bat is analytical skillful and interesting all enhancements super cool. Asante sana😊❤️👍🏼
Are the rhythm generator & strum parameters mapped on the Push 2 hardware knobs or is it mouse editing only?
This is all about time efficiency. These upgrades are good.
Great review mate. that pattern generator is next level.
We STILL NEED A "bounce group(s) to stems" feature ... i emailed them and was told it was being evaluated however i dont know if they implemented it yet. Also for creating sample libraries a quick drag and drop of audio into a folder that would create a .wav file with the efx on it would be fire
Looks great, thanks for this. Can anyone help and tell me which Addictive Drums package that is ?
Thanks for the breakdown. Definitely upgrading as well.
If any update to any software you use regularly speeds up your workflow- even if by 10%, it’s worth every penny.
I see how this will save me an hour plus every session. Easily.
Huge win. Great video thank you.
Yess now it’s got the logic / protools feature ! It’s way better now along with with wave form! Its awesome 👏🏿
I’m sold on this
A 1:59
Along with similarly search ! It’s so dope !!!!!!!!!!
The piano roll updates are sick! Copped fhe update to 11 just recently on sale, and get 12 for free when its out, so im super pumped
The MIDI editing features... might have to cop
Thought I did not need 12 but the tools are mathematically genius in that unmistakable German style 🔥 Upgraded
Will this new version feature drivers that will eliminate latency when monitoring?
Midi features are AMAZING!
The hate is mostly because it feels more like an update rather than an upgrade
This feels like Ableton Live 11+ rather than 12
FL studio is the biggest competitor and it has had these features for almost a decade
Ableton wants to charge you for something that should have been an update
I use both FL studio and Ableton and i dont see a reason to pay for features that ive had for over a decade in FL
I also use Cubase and most of this has been in Cubase for years
FLStudio literally wasn't Ableton, and Ableton have their own "One Pager" & "Live" flow,
that was crushing the other DAW, because other DAW like to obstructing the screen all the time
yes, Ableton didn't have that one feature that FL had,
but, FL also are fundamentally flawed beyond repair,
and it took hack after hack just to patch up their fundamental mistake.
but, regardless, both are completely usable to procuce real music
As decap said these are convenience updates, not just absolute game changers. If you know how to use 2 or more daws efficiently, you can make the same quality of beats in any of those daws. Ableton had some features that fl didnt have for decades and vice versa. People really need to get out of their comfort zone and understand the world doesnt revolve around just their bubble, therefore all those negative opinions.
I can't get the horizontal 3 bars to slice with option/alt E on windows.
Thanks man pretty dope video! You have presented all the necessary information fast and easy!
Great overview
WHAT'S THE SHORTCUT TO OPEN/CLOSE THE CLIP VIEW??? PLEASE (it was CMD+OPTION+L but now doesn't work)
that similarity finder on simpler or sampler would be DOPE AF!
How do you edit clips in the session view? Was trying to find out how to do that. Like automate in the session view
Awesome presentation , very informative. Thanks!
Anyone know why Ableton live 12 doesn't show the VST folders anymore? Its all VSTS now and no folders...so now I don't know what is what cause everything was organize by folder names!
STRUM!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Are there more favorites folders finally???
Question: how does Ableton determine what "similar" means? Similar in what way?