I absolutely hate the fact that I'm old enough to have grown up with this music, but at the same time elated that I'm old enough to have experienced these great band's awesomeness! Entertainer's and music of today could never compare!..R. I. P Prince and Vanity!
I am From South Minneapolis, grew up in the 70's, Andre and Jimmy are my cousins (on opposite sides of the family) and EVEN I am learning from this! GREAT WORK @Sinnik22!
Wow! Thanks for putting this out! This is amazing! I am still waiting for an actual movie about Prince's life to include everyone who was a part of his life! This video is just incredible! I miss Prince from performing! I wish those who are left would do a reunion tour while they are able to perform. Love the talent from Minneapolis, Minnesota!💜💜💜💜💜💜 Prince Fan 4 ever!
I have been saying for 20 years that we need a book or a movie based on Prince and the Minneapolis connection from his childhood thanks for the inspiration I wish Prince was still here to give us a reunion tour with his fomer group's
It's crazy how everyone who had some bomb ass music solo was all involved with Prince, Terry Lewis and Jimmy jam, and Morris Day I had no idea Alexander o neal was in that circle I love his music
Im glad there's a comment section for this video. I love the comment sections. This video was alot better than I thought it would be. It was very entertaining. Very unique way of mixing the visuals, the still shots, the rare footage, various interview audio, etc.
I just LMAO 😂 when Jesse Johnson said they got Prince back from the egging during their show, by putting a big pair of drawers (probably men’s underwear) in Prince coat pocket while he was performing “Let’s Work”. He pulls them out thinking they were women’s panties, and they were male drawers. I was dying laughing imagining seeing that sh*t in my head, picturing the look of shock on Prince’s face during his performance. 🤣🤣🤣
But even PRN the '1 man band' recognized, encouraged and sometimes was intimidated by other strong bands and musicians around him. His strength was seeing the strength in others as well as himself.
YO SINNICK...I been a fan since "Soft & Wet" & I gotta say this is better than a movie. To hear it right from peoples mouths is serious. Thanx for spending the time editing this thing where we can just listen & actually learn something. #Respect
@@Sinnik22 Nah..thank you. You got 2 million docs about The Purple Dude but no sequential layout so you can see the timeline. You end up with all these stories floating in time so to speak. Your stuff gives us a timeline. Makes it make sense. And again, straight out peoples mouths. I know it had to be alot to line it all up... #RespectBack
Never Knew Prince WAS SUCH A LITTLE CONTROLLING YSSUP!!!! HE WAS JEALOUS OF THE TIME! WHOM HE THOUGHT WOULD FIZZLE OUT BUT KEPT GETTING BIGGER THAN HIM THAT'S WHY HE FIRED JAM AND LEWIS!!! HE KNEW THOSE TWO HAD POWERFUL AMBITION TO GO PAST GHE STARS AND THEY DID!!!! GREAT JOB JAM AND LEWIS!!!! YOU CONTINUE TO PRODUCE RECORD BREAKINGGREAT MUSIC!!!!
Wow!!! even when he was just a baby, he was an amazing teacher he showed them they could do more than they thought they were capable of doing!!! Prince= genius... I love his quote... my way was best!!
No words but thank you@Sinnik22 for makng these. This one is everything about the TIME, Morris and Prince. I watched twice so far . It was not too long and I was not bored. I never tire of pre Purple Rain days because of the dynamics of all involved. This vid is perfect. Thank you!, Thank you ! Thank you!
@@Sinnik22 Much deserved accolade. Your work is amazing because you let the people who lived it say their view on how it went down. THAT is everything.😎
That was epic! Get the lawyers you need to get any copyright clearances negotiated then tun this into a script. Done right this would be an amazing movie!👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾
Your video should win an Oscar! Great! Many thanks! Morris, thanks for "Party up", love that song and also your book. Music was always a contest, it was already in the era when JS Bach lived, Bach had a contest with a french organist in Dresden and for instance Franz Liszt had some contests with other great pianists etc
the best video production of the "genesis" of Prince that i've seen. very comprehensive and well paced. from all i've read and from all the interviews i've watched, everything is spot on. bravo again!!!! well done!!!
Agreed!!! And how can there be any glaring problems when the stories are being taken from the people who lived them? Most of the people from his camp are still here and have their stories and experiences to share. This seems to be a very good way to accurately encapsulate Prince's life and career. The thought of actors portraying these people just seems silly to me. His life is well documented. Another good thing that I have noticed about how this has been done is that even if there is a bit of discrepancy in the details of their stories, the stories are theirs to tell. You don't fact-check grandpa about the stories of his life. You just listen and learn.
@@PhuckHue2 that's possible. Also Jimmy knew Prince the longest (grade school) and probably more hip to Prince's game and wouldn't go for the divide-&-conquer hustle Prince was trying.
Once again wonderful. Prince set everybody in the right direction. Even if some things seemed wrong. It all worked out. I love all these performers. 💜💜💜
I wonder did he recognize the talent n Jam and Lewis and test their loyalty 2 each other. Imagine if Prince wasn't tryna micromanage and listen 2 their ideas
Omg so much history right here! Thanks for sharing this story and video ! RIP Prince! Much love and respect to the people who were a part in " The Minneapolis Sound" !!!! 🤘🏾😎
I just watched this again and I think if It wasn't for Prince and the talents of his counterparts where would the Minneapolis Sound be?! Great job on your video and thanks again!
As good as prince was, i believe he lost himself and had no real connections and that cost him to live a very lonely life. At the end no children or a wife. To me that was to much of a price to pay. ❤ him still.
Always impressed! Just happened to get on UA-cam and this showed up. Perfect timing. I wish this was widely distributed and seen like Ken Burns documentaries on PBS. The best thing is the stories are coming directly from the artists themselves. So thankful for your work!
Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Jessie Johnson, The Time, Andre Cymone, Dez Deckerson, The Revolution all had tremendous talent yet they struggled after departing from Prince as artists. Jimmy and Terry produced others yet The Time dwindled. Jessie produced others as well as Andre yet their solo careers suffered because Prince set the bar so high and the industry wanted them to sound like him and they wanted to do their own music and most people did not want that. Andre said he was black balled and tried to get things done and was blocked. I guess they did not want him to get in Prince's way. Andre could have been huge he had the looks and the talent. He really had the whole package yet he was blocked.
I don't understand how Andre would have been blocked, he wasn't tied to Prince after leaving the band. Owen Husney managed him and he was signed to Columbia releasing 3 albums. The only hit was the Prince penned "The Dance Electric". However, Andre had success producing and writing for his wife Jody Watley. Jimmy & Terry were phenomenal producers. Morris needed Prince to write the songs, he was angry but kept going back to the well.
Correction Jimmy & terry are probably the greatest producers in history. I have them over Babyface, etc. Only one I might put over is the genius Quincy Jones
You keep bringing it Man!! Your Purple Time Machine is FIRE! The Time couldn't be touched "live" basically by anybody back then. They just had too much light between them. Beyond TIGHT. And really, in the streets! Jesse was considered a badder guitar player than PRN, as quiet as it's kept in the mainstream. Love ya editing.Very fluid. #FUNKON
Prince didn't have to worry about another band.even though they were better he ended up being the greatest intertana of all time's!!!!! 😏💜Prince🎸 forever 💜
I can tell you put some serious work in to have this all together almost seamlessly! This was captivating and really cool to get the inside baseball from the people themselves!
In the 80s If Prince and Morris Day, would have been like Barry Gordy and Smokey Robinson and started their own records company, they would have cornered the market for 15 years easy.
Thank you this was amazing. I love and enjoy the stories it's so good to hear how all started and how they all came together Minneapolis finest 💜💜 California love 💜💕
If I could give 100k likes I would. That's how much I enjoyed this. I was only going to listen to a couple minutes but ended up staying for the entire video and wanted more. Great job putting this together.
Every person’s name mentioned in this movie eventually became mega famous bc of Prince’s involvement. Prince should’ve been a King..... King Midus. Great movie loved it!!!
I wish Prince would have let The Time do there music more. He held them back because they were getting huge and would over shadow him. Although Prince created the conflict for marketing purposes and it was not real in the beginning it snow balled into a real conflict between them. Morris did say Prince would have them fly out then cancel them at the last minute and did not pay them. I guess Prince wanted to prove he had power. I still am not sure why he would play his friends like that when he knew how hard it was to make it in the music business. Also, when Prince was on MTV and said "Come get this hit you know you need it..." to Andre you can hear the shade and how he was making a joke of Andre. He was basically saying Andre you are not relevant so here is a song to put you on the map. I know Andre was mad about that. Vanity said that Prince tried to hold her back and would not pay her what she was worth and that is why she left. Why Prince did these things is beyond comprehension. Can you imaging if Vanity was in Purple Rain? It would have been more real and possibly even better. The weird thing is that Apollonia was a carbon copy of Vanity. They really did not change much at all. She wore the same clothes and wore her hair just like Vanity. It was kind of creepy. Vanity had changed her image and became more seductive instead of the hooker image Prince had gave her. The first album of Apollonia 6 she is posed in a very similar way as Vanity's first solo album. They look so a like and you know Prince did that on purpose however that is where the similarity stopped because Vanity is a great performer and Apples was not. Vanity could really dance and made it look effortless and Apples looked stiff all the time. Vanity actually did much better when she left Prince unlike many of the others.
💜🐾 oh yeah, 1 of the greatest story's 2 tell ! Sinnik's productions r growing over TIME. Not only in Length or in subscribers but also technicaly and in Content ! That's what Time it is.
WOW LOVE And Feel Like I Was In that Documentation Prince the Time Jimmy jam Terry. 👍🏼. WOW Love hearing memories lane🥰. THOSE GUYS WAS SERIOUS. BUT Never Can see Prince Clowning Awww He had Serious Fun And when you had to go you had to go. WOW IF THAT WAS’NT A SERIOUS MUSICIAN 🎶🎶🎶. THAT WAS I love Each Band member was. All serious Wow. This was so so surreal to me thank you . I love it 🥰✨✨✨✨✨
Thanks guy's I lived all that a Minimum level hobby profy, The ego's are just crazy, Still are, So sad? Thanks for the inspiration at 60 💝💝💝💝🎊🎊Awesome!
I know right?I went thru all of that BS right when they were Hot n we were just as good But those ego's did it every time!We were the best RB band in Europe during the era,So sad now n then if you weren't part of that Lil special group of people all ways jealousy envy, idea's stealing n making sure you don't get tooo much spot light on yourself!💖✌🏽💯
this is the best content besides prince concert videos or stuff from the man himself I've ever seen on one of my 2 favorite artists. thank you sinnick...you are so skilled...this is scary good. if you don't do this professionally then you should. You have a gift.
I miss 💜 these good times, which I consider the 80's . I must add I also miss Sunday mornings with my moma having her console stereo on blast with Casey Kasem doing the weekly hit records countdown.🎶
The only thing I would like to see is how Prince's desire to not be pigeon-holded as a "Black R&B" artist was informed by his past. He shares so many of the influences of our/my age group (1960's and 1970's kids) including integrated school which = varied tastes including loving Carlos Santana, James Brown, Sly Stone, Joni Mitchell, and Fleetwood Mac. Would love to hear more from Stevie Nicks (you had her on one episode regarding Sunset Sound) Joni, Santana and even Miles Davis. Ultimately he was about freedom which is a big part of rock and roll (broadly defined not just code for White). I always say in his heart of hearts he was a rocker first!
Loving this one thanks for sharing very information blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
All of your videos are blessed with perfection. I’ve been here ever since episode one. I’m a true fan of you (also congratulations on your last video blowing up 🎉)
Minneapolis was a musical hotbed, incubating and then bursting at the seams! I think about Dick Clark's comment to Prince during that famous interview. It was an ignorant statement. Few outside of Minneapolis knew what was going on there. But to be fair to Dick Clark, much of Minneapolis and Minnesota seemed to be the last to find out.
I know it must have been hard keeping up with who said what. I normally listen to these in headphones as I walk around. I JUST noticed that during the "snowed in Atlanta" story, you hear Jam talking and you put Terry. That really funny.
Prince and The Time looks like they all had a lot of fun on tour back then in the early 80s.... until the competition started getting too serious. Prince should have never fired Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis; he should have kept the band together and just continued to have fun. It would have made for better music between the 2 groups.
Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis became incredible Grammy award winning producers in part because of there firing by prince who ironically is responsible for that too
Everytime I do old home week in my head, I come listen to this. I wish you would get this polished up and put out so all the fans of Prince and The Time could hear/see it. Either way, pleez keep this post up! Love this!
I Love to this channel,and this is way awesome 😎👏👏👏❤️❤️my fave channel 💕 I’m going through all the vids on my library💕,.......brilliantly put together 👏👏
GREATNESS WILL SHINE REGARDLESS OF THE HURDLES AND HOOPS. JAM & LEWIS & THE TIME WERE SO MUCH MORE FUNKY THAN PRINCE'S ACT....AND THATS WHY LATER, WITH NPG, PRINCE DISPLAYED HIS MOST FUNKY SIDE. THE TIME COULD HAVE DONE SO MUCH MORE...IF ALLOWED🌍
Excellent job! I remember watching The Time kill it opening for Prince in Memphis on the 1999 tour. The predominantly black crowd didn't respond to Prince as much as they did to The Time.
Prince had crossover appeal on his mind. We know he could have had the Time as part of his own band but he had other goals which worked out just fine I would say. Fine for most involved.
@@chica4530 Of course. No one would question the long game thinking of Prince. It stills stands that the transition created lots of friction between the two groups. It doesn't make it any less difficult to go on stage when the audience you're "looking for", isn't quite there yet. Had The Time toured with Prince on the Purple Rain tour, they wouldn't have stood a chance.
Mr. Paige I disagree with you🤣, the best possible out come would have been to just let The Time, do there own Theater sized venue tour for Ice Cream Castle, The Time was a full blown Monster by then, the only thing that would have saved Prince at that time is the fact that he was a "Movie Music Star" after Purple Rain new fans flocked to see this tour, and that's the facts, now you and me, my Bro Paige are what you call "Day Oners" so the movie was just a confirmation of what we already knew about Prince it was just the next step in the process, l have a huge collection of live audio and video, and I even have 1 of Your shows in my vault 🤣🤣 I believe it's '88-'89 Pittsburgh on the D. Gibson tour✔💯 ✌🏾
@@kevinpaige5746 I have that on audio cassette, not video, but I believe l have the Show Time at the Apollo appearance on vhs somewhere man but I don't know which tape I have it on
Ironically Alexander was way ahead of the game and knew what 'time' it was. Him demanding 'paper' upfront got him kicked out the group. But it saved him years of mistreatment & unpaid 'paper' down the line from Prince that the rest of the artists around Prince mostly dealt with.
"What you doing Jimmy jam...what note you coming in singing on Jimmy Jam, play louder jimmy jam, it's gotta be louder, it's gotta be bigger than the record...where is the choreography Jimmy Jam?", That's what I'm talkin bout.
@@theonecalledvino8165 yeah you can't blame him for not liking Prince, I would have told that little saw off sausage to shove it where the sun doesn't shine, I never liked little girly men, Jimmy didn't need Prince, maybe Prince should have just stayed a one man band, you can't treat people like their your personal slaves, but yeah I think prince found himself before he passed, because In The end it seemed like he didn't have any friends, and that's what happens when you step on people,you end up all alone.
O'neal was right, at the end of the day it's about the cheddar. He went on to have a great career in his own right. Jam and Lewis's was /is phenomenal.
I don't know what Ava DuVernay's plan was going to be for the Netflix Prince documentary, but how much different or better was it going to be than this?
They cut a lot out oF everyone talking especially about Charles Chazz Smith who said he was very close with Prince an was going to do everything in his power to find out the truth about Prince’s death.”smh” When Prince passed away everyone came out of the woodwork talking about how close they were with Prince. I’ve known Prince for over 37yrs before he passed so I heard Prince tell many stories. Though this is good but they cut out why Prince got rid oF certain people an added other’s Morris really was writing songs with Prince at least I seen that myself but so far no one is talking about that. Anyways Ava would oF told it all but I believe she was stopped by some oF the old members oF the different bands. I would oF loved for her to do the documentary/movie about everyone that worked with Prince I think that would’ve been awesome....
@@pamelacapozzoli4011 did you ever see/know Vanity/Denise. What did Ava want to say that the bands negated and why would the bands yield that kind of power over Prince's story?
@44.54 Jesse playing what would become ( Wild n Loose) Damn.. He's funkaaaay!! Those licks. Timing, execution. I thought that was Prince's (funk) style. Now, I see that Jesse had it as well.. Secondly, he didn't get the credit as a songwriter on the song. ..
oh my days, this is gooooooood
UK?☝️😀
@@Sinnik22 uk? what about it?
Thought you were from UK for a second
@@Sinnik22
i am
i don't understand why my location is important, what are we chatting about here? lol :)
i can't help where i live
I was just remembering how much i love the phrase “oh my days”...made a guess. Love the UK
I absolutely hate the fact that I'm old enough to have grown up with this music, but at the same time elated that I'm old enough to have experienced these great band's awesomeness! Entertainer's and music of today could never compare!..R. I. P Prince and Vanity!
Its a blessing ID
They would've loved you'Beautiful💯💯😍🥰
I never once heard of Vanity, until she was out of the limelight. Of course I knew all who prince was.
@@glo3139her group , which Prince ‘s founded only had one hit record!
I am From South Minneapolis, grew up in the 70's, Andre and Jimmy are my cousins (on opposite sides of the family) and EVEN I am learning from this! GREAT WORK @Sinnik22!
Highest praise
Dam this 1 still gives me the chills. thank's again.
You still with us bruv?
Wow! Thanks for putting this out! This is amazing! I am still waiting for an actual movie about Prince's life to include everyone who was a part of his life! This video is just incredible! I miss Prince from performing! I wish those who are left would do a reunion tour while they are able to perform. Love the talent from Minneapolis, Minnesota!💜💜💜💜💜💜 Prince Fan 4 ever!
@@melissapurvis8230 thank you!
This core group of guys change the face of music forever!! Hats off!!
Facts!
Every one born within miles of each other.
This should be nominated for an Oscar for Editing and Production. For Real
fo real fo real?
Amazing
@@Sinnik22 fo real
I have been saying for 20 years that we need a book or a movie based on Prince and the Minneapolis connection from his childhood thanks for the inspiration I wish Prince was still here to give us a reunion tour with his fomer group's
Seemed he missed those day 1 friends
It's crazy how everyone who had some bomb ass music solo was all involved with Prince, Terry Lewis and Jimmy jam, and Morris Day I had no idea Alexander o neal was in that circle I love his music
“I need paper Prince” 😂
Rest In Peace Prince.... The Greatest of all Time hands down.
Im glad there's a comment section for this video. I love the comment sections. This video was alot better than I thought it would be. It was very entertaining. Very unique way of mixing the visuals, the still shots, the rare footage, various interview audio, etc.
I appreciate that
yes & check the original 2 seasons of Sinnik's ONCE UPON A TIME IN MINNEAPOLIS.
@@reimourrpower9357 class act☝️
I just LMAO 😂 when Jesse Johnson said they got Prince back from the egging during their show, by putting a big pair of drawers (probably men’s underwear) in Prince coat pocket while he was performing “Let’s Work”. He pulls them out thinking they were women’s panties, and they were male drawers. I was dying laughing imagining seeing that sh*t in my head, picturing the look of shock on Prince’s face during his performance. 🤣🤣🤣
It's on UA-cam.
Lmfao
@@37218 what video is it
Hearing Casey Kasem's voice takes me back to my childhood on a Saturday morning!
Right after Spider-man and GI Joe
Yeah use to love his show
Prince was a one man band. That was his strength.👑♑♐
Sometimes its unsettling how busy he was
But even PRN the '1 man band' recognized, encouraged and sometimes was intimidated by other strong bands and musicians around him. His strength was seeing the strength in others as well as himself.
YO SINNICK...I been a fan since "Soft & Wet" & I gotta say this is better than a movie. To hear it right from peoples mouths is serious. Thanx for spending the time editing this thing where we can just listen & actually learn something. #Respect
same here. been riding with Prince since Soft & Wet dayz. this is pure nectar.
respek Mike Lowry
@@Sinnik22 Nah..thank you. You got 2 million docs about The Purple Dude but no sequential layout so you can see the timeline. You end up with all these stories floating in time so to speak. Your stuff gives us a timeline. Makes it make sense. And again, straight out peoples mouths. I know it had to be alot to line it all up... #RespectBack
Was a little "late" in the game for Prince. Didnt become a fan until Controversy(was 13yrs old).
Well said. Instant classic documentary on some true legends.
Never Knew Prince WAS SUCH A LITTLE CONTROLLING YSSUP!!!! HE WAS JEALOUS OF THE TIME! WHOM HE THOUGHT WOULD FIZZLE OUT BUT KEPT GETTING BIGGER THAN HIM THAT'S WHY HE FIRED JAM AND LEWIS!!! HE KNEW THOSE TWO HAD POWERFUL AMBITION TO GO PAST GHE STARS AND THEY DID!!!! GREAT JOB JAM AND LEWIS!!!! YOU CONTINUE TO PRODUCE RECORD BREAKINGGREAT MUSIC!!!!
This series is totally rad. Thank you!
Totally rad☺️
Wow!!! even when he was just a baby, he was an amazing teacher he showed them they could do more than they thought they were capable of doing!!! Prince= genius... I love his quote... my way was best!!
Prince helped people his way. They all kinda wanted him to help their way. If that makes sense 🤔
No words but thank you@Sinnik22 for makng these. This one is everything about the TIME, Morris and Prince. I watched twice so far . It was not too long and I was not bored. I never tire of pre Purple Rain days because of the dynamics of all involved. This vid is perfect. Thank you!, Thank you ! Thank you!
I’m surprised. Very cool that u enjoyed at a high level. Thanks.
@@Sinnik22 Much deserved accolade. Your work is amazing because you let the people who lived it say their view on how it went down. THAT is everything.😎
@@vashtix6812 agreed. Fantastic insight
That was epic! Get the lawyers you need to get any copyright clearances negotiated then tun this into a script. Done right this would be an amazing movie!👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾
truer than you know bruh
Your video should win an Oscar! Great! Many thanks!
Morris, thanks for "Party up", love that song and also your book.
Music was always a contest, it was already in the era when JS Bach lived, Bach had a contest with a french organist in Dresden and for instance Franz Liszt had some contests with other great pianists etc
the best video production of the "genesis" of Prince that i've seen. very comprehensive and well paced. from all i've read and from all the interviews i've watched, everything is spot on. bravo again!!!! well done!!!
Agreed!!! And how can there be any glaring problems when the stories are being taken from the people who lived them? Most of the people from his camp are still here and have their stories and experiences to share. This seems to be a very good way to accurately encapsulate Prince's life and career. The thought of actors portraying these people just seems silly to me. His life is well documented. Another good thing that I have noticed about how this has been done is that even if there is a bit of discrepancy in the details of their stories, the stories are theirs to tell. You don't fact-check grandpa about the stories of his life. You just listen and learn.
Wow...humbled every time. Thanks sis
Who would ever question grampa?
LOL! Well, would you??
Terry is a true friend...he really pushed for Jimmy to join and they got fired, they stayed together...
The whole thing was destined, if you wrote the script for what actually happened the movie studio would have been like...nah.
Prince asked Terry to come back for Purple Rain and he said no. He didn't want Jimmy because they fought the most and never got along.
@@PhuckHue2 that's possible. Also Jimmy knew Prince the longest (grade school) and probably more hip to Prince's game and wouldn't go for the divide-&-conquer hustle Prince was trying.
This was an amazing behind the scenes compilation featuring some of my greatest musical influences.
Musician?
This is pure gold!!!!!!!!
Once again wonderful. Prince set everybody in the right direction. Even if some things seemed wrong. It all worked out. I love all these performers. 💜💜💜
I wonder did he recognize the talent n Jam and Lewis and test their loyalty 2 each other. Imagine if Prince wasn't tryna micromanage and listen 2 their ideas
Omg so much history right here! Thanks for sharing this story and video ! RIP Prince! Much love and respect to the people who were a part in " The Minneapolis Sound" !!!! 🤘🏾😎
Best team great leadership. Prince was doing a lot
I just watched this again and I think if It wasn't for Prince and the talents of his counterparts where would the Minneapolis Sound be?! Great job on your video and thanks again!
As good as prince was, i believe he lost himself and had no real connections and that cost him to live a very lonely life. At the end no children or a wife. To me that was to much of a price to pay. ❤ him still.
Well he did have two children. One died at birth the other didn't make it out the womb
Oooooooh, real talk ..
Really sad!
But what Prince understood, that these Guys were all brilliant in their own right🎵
I think that’s right
Bravo Bravo Bravo! 👏 much respect to your research.
Hat tip. respectful bow.
Always impressed! Just happened to get on UA-cam and this showed up. Perfect timing. I wish this was widely distributed and seen like Ken Burns documentaries on PBS. The best thing is the stories are coming directly from the artists themselves. So thankful for your work!
Agreed
These are better than any music docuseries out there on TV or streaming. Critical-acclaim and award worthy by far ❤️
High praise sir.
Prince invented his own nemesis just to further his own talent.
Boss + Genius moves
I later heard that the nemesis character prince created was based off of Rick James.
@@zerocool1ist I heard that too. Prince was always thinking and evolving. Right?
Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Jessie Johnson, The Time, Andre Cymone, Dez Deckerson, The Revolution all had tremendous talent yet they struggled after departing from Prince as artists. Jimmy and Terry produced others yet The Time dwindled. Jessie produced others as well as Andre yet their solo careers suffered because Prince set the bar so high and the industry wanted them to sound like him and they wanted to do their own music and most people did not want that. Andre said he was black balled and tried to get things done and was blocked. I guess they did not want him to get in Prince's way. Andre could have been huge he had the looks and the talent. He really had the whole package yet he was blocked.
The small consolation prize for Andre would be the work he did for Jody Watley that would aid her in winning a Grammy for best new artist. 👍🏾
I don't understand how Andre would have been blocked, he wasn't tied to Prince after leaving the band. Owen Husney managed him and he was signed to Columbia releasing 3 albums. The only hit was the Prince penned "The Dance Electric". However, Andre had success producing and writing for his wife Jody Watley. Jimmy & Terry were phenomenal producers. Morris needed Prince to write the songs, he was angry but kept going back to the well.
Correction Jimmy & terry are probably the greatest producers in history. I have them over Babyface, etc. Only one I might put over is the genius Quincy Jones
@@BoosterGoldEarth6Agreed
Please keep these extended movies coming! These are great!
Thank you...definitely
Yes!!
You keep bringing it Man!! Your Purple Time Machine is FIRE! The Time couldn't be touched "live" basically by anybody back then. They just had too much light between them. Beyond TIGHT. And really, in the streets! Jesse was considered a badder guitar player than PRN, as quiet as it's kept in the mainstream. Love ya editing.Very fluid. #FUNKON
Prince knew Jesse was a bad guitar hero
Prince had to fire them eventually.
Prince didn't have to worry about another band.even though they were better he ended up being the greatest intertana of all time's!!!!! 😏💜Prince🎸 forever 💜
Co-signed
I can tell you put some serious work in to have this all together almost seamlessly! This was captivating and really cool to get the inside baseball from the people themselves!
This stuff is gold. Thank you for sharing it.
You had me right off the bat, w/Kasey Kasem narrating☆
Casey is a real one…new ep up…ua-cam.com/video/agVonbbdO8w/v-deo.html
In the 80s If Prince and Morris Day, would have been like Barry Gordy and Smokey Robinson and started their own records company, they would have cornered the market for 15 years easy.
Thank you this was amazing. I love and enjoy the stories it's so good to hear how all started and how they all came together Minneapolis finest 💜💜 California love 💜💕
As a fan of Prince, The Time..Thank you for your imagery this is incredible 👏
Crazy visuals
If I could give 100k likes I would. That's how much I enjoyed this. I was only going to listen to a couple minutes but ended up staying for the entire video and wanted more. Great job putting this together.
U caught up?
As a true "day-1" fan, this was suck a joy and a pleasure to listen and watch!
Every person’s name mentioned in this movie eventually became mega famous bc of Prince’s involvement. Prince should’ve been a King..... King Midus.
Great movie loved it!!!
I wish Prince would have let The Time do there music more. He held them back because they were getting huge and would over shadow him. Although Prince created the conflict for marketing purposes and it was not real in the beginning it snow balled into a real conflict between them. Morris did say Prince would have them fly out then cancel them at the last minute and did not pay them. I guess Prince wanted to prove he had power. I still am not sure why he would play his friends like that when he knew how hard it was to make it in the music business. Also, when Prince was on MTV and said "Come get this hit you know you need it..." to Andre you can hear the shade and how he was making a joke of Andre. He was basically saying Andre you are not relevant so here is a song to put you on the map. I know Andre was mad about that. Vanity said that Prince tried to hold her back and would not pay her what she was worth and that is why she left. Why Prince did these things is beyond comprehension. Can you imaging if Vanity was in Purple Rain? It would have been more real and possibly even better. The weird thing is that Apollonia was a carbon copy of Vanity. They really did not change much at all. She wore the same clothes and wore her hair just like Vanity. It was kind of creepy. Vanity had changed her image and became more seductive instead of the hooker image Prince had gave her. The first album of Apollonia 6 she is posed in a very similar way as Vanity's first solo album. They look so a like and you know Prince did that on purpose however that is where the similarity stopped because Vanity is a great performer and Apples was not. Vanity could really dance and made it look effortless and Apples looked stiff all the time.
Vanity actually did much better when she left Prince unlike many of the others.
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oh yeah, 1 of the greatest story's 2 tell !
Sinnik's productions r growing over TIME. Not only in Length or in subscribers but also technicaly and in Content !
That's what Time it is.
Hat tip @Che Boy
WOW LOVE And Feel Like I Was In that Documentation Prince the Time Jimmy jam Terry. 👍🏼. WOW Love hearing memories lane🥰. THOSE GUYS WAS SERIOUS. BUT Never Can see Prince Clowning Awww He had Serious Fun And when you had to go you had to go. WOW IF THAT WAS’NT A SERIOUS MUSICIAN 🎶🎶🎶. THAT WAS I love Each Band member was. All serious Wow. This was so so surreal to me thank you . I love it 🥰✨✨✨✨✨
Humbled THANK YOU!!
Im loving these pics
This is great 🙂👍🏽. I like hearing these stories told firsthand from the band members.
YEEEESSSSSS! I'm new to this channel, been a Prince fan since I came out the womb. You are doing God's work with these videos! Thank you!
Welcome to the deepest of dives. Don't forget to tell a friend.
Hallelujah ...& amen
Still keeping up?
Very good production quality while telling a story of talent human nature success, and of course - *greed* !!
Thanks guy's I lived all that a Minimum level hobby profy, The ego's are just crazy, Still are, So sad? Thanks for the inspiration at 60 💝💝💝💝🎊🎊Awesome!
Well said!
Someone just called to put together another RB Gospel Group, I told him to tell them, Leave their Ego's at home! So sad our people?
I know right?I went thru all of that BS right when they were Hot n we were just as good But those ego's did it every time!We were the best RB band in Europe during the era,So sad now n then if you weren't part of that Lil special group of people all ways jealousy envy, idea's stealing n making sure you don't get tooo much spot light on yourself!💖✌🏽💯
Waowww 🤩this IS what i was looking 4 so long 🍿Real stuff🍿🙏🏾 Amazing music Channel🌹❤️
🙌 got Eem!
That was too much talent in the room and when you have that...nothing can get done.
But it did though..
this is the best content besides prince concert videos or stuff from the man himself I've ever seen on one of my 2 favorite artists. thank you sinnick...you are so skilled...this is scary good. if you don't do this professionally then you should. You have a gift.
Prince was COLD. "...by my first manager, who's name escapes me." The baddest to ever do it, though.
Great video or series... insane edits
Glad you enjoyed it
I miss 💜 these good times, which I consider the 80's .
I must add I also miss Sunday mornings with my moma having her console stereo on blast with Casey Kasem doing the weekly hit records countdown.🎶
Keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars 🤩
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Thank you so much❗⛅
Terry,Jimmy I'm so, so sorry what Prince did to you all 💜😘But great thing's came your way!! 💜💜
Great editing!! I've heard several of these interviews and you connected them perfectly!
Thank you. Glad that you’re enjoying Prince, I suspect you’ve been following him for a while tho
@@Sinnik22 yes, he helped me through my teenage years... I'm 50. Lol
The only thing I would like to see is how Prince's desire to not be pigeon-holded as a "Black R&B" artist was informed by his past. He shares so many of the influences of our/my age group (1960's and 1970's kids) including integrated school which = varied tastes including loving Carlos Santana, James Brown, Sly Stone, Joni Mitchell, and Fleetwood Mac. Would love to hear more from Stevie Nicks (you had her on one episode regarding Sunset Sound) Joni, Santana and even Miles Davis. Ultimately he was about freedom which is a big part of rock and roll (broadly defined not just code for White). I always say in his heart of hearts he was a rocker first!
Indeed, rocker, first and foremost!
great take
Prince was full of it.
Loving this one thanks for sharing very information blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
All of your videos are blessed with perfection. I’ve been here ever since episode one. I’m a true fan of you (also congratulations on your last video blowing up 🎉)
Minneapolis was a musical hotbed, incubating and then bursting at the seams! I think about Dick Clark's comment to Prince during that famous interview. It was an ignorant statement. Few outside of Minneapolis knew what was going on there. But to be fair to Dick Clark, much of Minneapolis and Minnesota seemed to be the last to find out.
I know it must have been hard keeping up with who said what. I normally listen to these in headphones as I walk around. I JUST noticed that during the "snowed in Atlanta" story, you hear Jam talking and you put Terry. That really funny.
Prince and The Time looks like they all had a lot of fun on tour back then in the early 80s.... until the competition started getting too serious. Prince should have never fired Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis; he should have kept the band together and just continued to have fun. It would have made for better music between the 2 groups.
Morris Day & Prince had blast making that Time album too. Good times
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A lot of girls they poked
Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis became incredible Grammy award winning producers in part because of there firing by prince who ironically is responsible for that too
GOD'S PLAN
Everytime I do old home week in my head, I come listen to this. I wish you would get this polished up and put out so all the fans of Prince and The Time could hear/see it. Either way, pleez keep this post up! Love this!
I’m definitely going to redo this. Thank you!
I love these videos!
We love love
Thank you so much
You're most welcome
I Love to this channel,and this is way awesome 😎👏👏👏❤️❤️my fave channel 💕 I’m going through all the vids on my library💕,.......brilliantly put together 👏👏
Verrrrry dope video!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
GREATNESS WILL SHINE REGARDLESS OF THE HURDLES AND HOOPS. JAM & LEWIS & THE TIME WERE SO MUCH MORE FUNKY THAN PRINCE'S ACT....AND THATS WHY LATER, WITH NPG, PRINCE DISPLAYED HIS MOST FUNKY SIDE. THE TIME COULD HAVE DONE SO MUCH MORE...IF ALLOWED🌍
PRINCE WAS THE TIME
Micromanagement hurt them i think 🤔
Damn it was real.& alive back then. I loved growing up in that era of everything. Music & Friday the 13th part one& 2👍😃
Excellent job! I remember watching The Time kill it opening for Prince in Memphis on the 1999 tour. The predominantly black crowd didn't respond to Prince as much as they did to The Time.
Prince had crossover appeal on his mind. We know he could have had the Time as part of his own band but he had other goals which worked out just fine I would say. Fine for most involved.
@@chica4530 Of course. No one would question the long game thinking of Prince. It stills stands that the transition created lots of friction between the two groups. It doesn't make it any less difficult to go on stage when the audience you're
"looking for", isn't quite there yet. Had The Time toured with Prince on the Purple Rain tour, they wouldn't have stood a chance.
Mr. Paige I disagree with you🤣, the best possible out come would have been to just let The Time, do there own Theater sized venue tour for Ice Cream Castle, The Time was a full blown Monster by then, the only thing that would have saved Prince at that time is the fact that he was a "Movie Music Star" after Purple Rain new fans flocked to see this tour, and that's the facts, now you and me, my Bro Paige are what you call "Day Oners" so the movie was just a confirmation of what we already knew about Prince it was just the next step in the process, l have a huge collection of live audio and video, and I even have 1 of Your shows in my vault 🤣🤣 I believe it's '88-'89 Pittsburgh on the D. Gibson tour✔💯 ✌🏾
@@eyelikefonkymuzic1109 I'd like to see that Pittsburgh show! Nov. 1989. I remember it clearly
@@kevinpaige5746 I have that on audio cassette, not video, but I believe l have the Show Time at the Apollo appearance on vhs somewhere man but I don't know which tape I have it on
I'm from DETROIT..DJ MOJO was ICONIC in our CITY....❤
great work taking from the varous sources out there..love the timeline
I hope you go more in-depth withPrince and Vanity’s relationship- just keep these extended episodes coming!
Prince and Vanity deserve a deep dive
I agree. Out of all of Prince's romantic involvements, it is something about him and Vanity that is most fascinating and interesting to me.
it was quite amazing how he passed away shortly after her....
Alexander O'Neal was a real "G"
Told prince he needed more paper
I need some papaPrince...imma thow down on this here steak.
Ironically Alexander was way ahead of the game and knew what 'time' it was. Him demanding 'paper' upfront got him kicked out the group. But it saved him years of mistreatment & unpaid 'paper' down the line from Prince that the rest of the artists around Prince mostly dealt with.
This is Awesome!! I think I will be staying up late watching your Channel!
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Fantastic work!!! Love this 😍💜
Thank you! Cheers!
Great work, as usual.
Mad happy to see you here 2.
Love this funk documentary 🤘🏾
Troubled by their demise (cue Morris laugh)
eyeroll (Prince snicker)
"What you doing Jimmy jam...what note you coming in singing on Jimmy Jam, play louder jimmy jam, it's gotta be louder, it's gotta be bigger than the record...where is the choreography Jimmy Jam?", That's what I'm talkin bout.
I loved that part too! P knew what he wanted and they pushed themselves beyond what they dreamed they could do!
Play the chord that Monties Playing JimmyJam. The choreography is simple u should be able to do the choreography and play. oK.
Every time Jam tells that story... he does the Anal Prince voice. I saw Jam & Lewis at a conference and he did that... We died laughing.
That part made me laugh out loud 🤣
@@theonecalledvino8165 yeah you can't blame him for not liking Prince, I would have told that little saw off sausage to shove it where the sun doesn't shine, I never liked little girly men, Jimmy didn't need Prince, maybe Prince should have just stayed a one man band, you can't treat people like their your personal slaves, but yeah I think prince found himself before he passed, because In The end it seemed like he didn't have any friends, and that's what happens when you step on people,you end up all alone.
His royal badness , musical genius rest in eternal peace 💔💜🕊️💐🎸🙏🏽
It was cincinnati i was at that concert i witness the whole thing, never forget that concert 1981.
This is amazing!! 💜🥰💜
This is fucking awesome. Great post.
preeshate
Don't get me WRONG: I ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOU FOR THIS, I just don't know how you DOIN' it....
Thanks loads…not easily.
@@Sinnik22 Do you get pushback from the ESTATE?
ANY of these legal teams?
THIS SH!T IS BRILLIANT.
And brilliantly DONE.
O'neal was right, at the end of the day it's about the cheddar.
He went on to have a great career in his own right.
Jam and Lewis's was /is phenomenal.
“This cute n all, but y’see I need a new house...so I’m just gon tho down on this here steak” ...dyin
@@Sinnik22 Alexander need a pool.
This is amazing!!!
Necessary information to musical artist like myself ...true only gift came from God...periodt that we have ...In JESUS name Amen🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏💪🙏😇❤️❤️❤️😇🙏💪✅✊💎
the true PowerFantastic
RIP Prince. I will always believe that Prince and MJ were murdered.
You will love this…ua-cam.com/video/agVonbbdO8w/v-deo.html
@omennemo8844 U R 1000% RIGHT IN WHAT U BELIEVE
That's why COOL and GET IT UP. sounded like synth bass
Great! Thx
I don't know what Ava DuVernay's plan was going to be for the Netflix Prince documentary, but how much different or better was it going to be than this?
Reel Talk
Was sad when Ava left but thankfully that documentary is still being made by Ezra Edelman who made the brilliant O.J: Made in America .
These documentaries are perfect! The people wholived it telling the story
They cut a lot out oF everyone talking especially about Charles Chazz Smith who said he was very close with Prince an was going to do everything in his power to find out the truth about Prince’s death.”smh”
When Prince passed away everyone came out of the woodwork talking about how close they were with Prince.
I’ve known Prince for over 37yrs before he passed so I heard Prince tell many stories.
Though this is good but they cut out why Prince got rid oF certain people an added other’s
Morris really was writing songs with Prince at least I seen that myself but so far no one is talking about that.
Anyways Ava would oF told it all but I believe she was stopped by some oF the old members oF the different bands.
I would oF loved for her to do the documentary/movie about everyone that worked with Prince
I think that would’ve been awesome....
@@pamelacapozzoli4011 did you ever see/know Vanity/Denise. What did Ava want to say that the bands negated and why would the bands yield that kind of power over Prince's story?
Am I the only one who doesn't know why with so much material there's not a movie!?!?
Too much material? 🤔
More material…ua-cam.com/video/agVonbbdO8w/v-deo.html
@44.54 Jesse playing what would become ( Wild n Loose) Damn.. He's funkaaaay!! Those licks. Timing, execution. I thought that was Prince's (funk) style. Now, I see that Jesse had it as well.. Secondly, he didn't get the credit as a songwriter on the song. ..