This video is a gem! I’ve been trying to learn these techniques for a long while, but truly no one explained/showed the right way to do them like this video, so thank you for the content.
Very well presented information!! Real World Context! Love the part about load the Hamstrings...Now the QUADS! BOOM!! Makes so much sense and gives me a cue now because we always focus on getting knees back and extension. Thank you!
I definitely need to work on this. I definitely cover the bar for too long. The incorrect position you showed at the end, perfectly describes my most common positional error.
My Olympia lifting is terrible, and this is the best anyone has ever explained it. I just hang clean and hang snatch everything. If I can get this correct I know I can lift alot more weight. Thank you
Very good tutorial. Picked up some ques I have never heard. Definitely will be implementing some of the things you mentioned in my next training session
Used to be we coached first pull ends at lower third of thigh on snatch then transitions to power position. If you lift with back to get bar from at knee to above knee /lower thigh you lose hamstring stretch and the stretch reflex for a fast knee rebend (and quad prestretch for explosions.) almost no one is patient enough on first pull. To me, that’s what no one is talking about.
the differences between this and rippetoes coaching on the power snatch/clean videos are nuts… i think he needs to reach out to you and do some type of collaborative work
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man there is so much technique here. i am sincerely not trying to be a Debbie downer but i feel like the time i need to get the techique down makes other lifts a better use of time for building strength and explosion? certainly would help make things more fun though
I got the whole technique from your videos and it's awesome. Although I have a problem after the reciprocation point. My knees go under the bar but when I extend I kinda bang the bar, any drill to fix that?
Does cleans and snatches rely more on the strenght of the individual or the technique? Which one of these 2 plays a bigger role in this lifts? My goal is to reach my genetic potential, and I want to know do I need to put my time and effort into cleans and snatches or the deadlifts, squats, pull ups and bench are enough for that? I dont want to have an overlap in my exercises strenght-wise. Peace!
For me going from no mans land to power position I feel like its just lifting the barbell with my back. Any ideas how to use hips instead of my back ? I also feel like my hip tuck under/posterior pelvic tilt if I dont cover the bar.
I have an idea. 1 warm up set with a medium weight. Then 2 of your heavy PR weight for that week or session. Personally I think it could lead to injury but it could be good for bulking. What do you think?
Well that’s a great video but in my opinion is incorrect. Shoulders should be over the bar at any point, independently of the knee movement. I’m not saying that knees shouldn’t come forward after clearing back, but in that example her shoulders are too far back and that puts her in a very difficult position to put pressure on the ground and lift
How should starposition look like i snatch and clean for someone who is 170 cm and have long femurs and short tibias. High hips or low hips, feet straightforward or toes pointed slightly outward?
For the hips, try whatever is comfortable and lets you keep the bar tight to the shins off the floor. For the feet, most of our lifters feel better with their toes out slightly.
Isnt the danger here that people will take the double knee bend as being a 'delibarate' movement rather than an incidental one that occurs when proper technique is used?
I think it can actually be trained deliberately with effective, mindful practice. With that being said we also have to be aware of negatives from doing so…some lifters get on their toes early and even move their chest back too much to compensate for a “feeling” of knees under. Be aware of those instances while still deliberately training the technical action.
@@GarageStrength see that's where I would respectively disagree. I think trying to consciously perform a double knee bend leads to loss of momentum and force transfer during the explosion. A better cue might be reminding the lifter to focus on keeping behind and under the bar when the hips drive forwards.
The movement of the knee is an effect. the cause is the intention of the lifter with the bar. Trying to explain how the knees should move is like telling a discus thrower to throw further. a further throw is an effect, knee movement is an effect.
I disagree, telling someone to lift more weight would be the same as telling someone to throw further. Telling someone to plantar flex in the discus throw is the same as the knee…or even keeping the knee bent on the finish of the discus throw to be more precise.
Perhaps the intent, no pun intended, is to initiate the transition sooner than later. Biomechanically, I don't think you can avoid scooping the knees under the weight... it's just a matter of when and to what degree. (?)
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somehow, i managed to digest so much more info in the first 3 minutes of this video than from any other weighliftin' tutorial on YT
I love your content. "Knees back and back forward" was a game changer for me. I've added 20lbs to my snatch in the last 9 months. Thank you!
BEST parts of these videos is watching Dane loose it in the background of the competition lifts!!! Love the energy!!!
This video is a gem! I’ve been trying to learn these techniques for a long while, but truly no one explained/showed the right way to do them like this video, so thank you for the content.
Very well presented information!! Real World Context! Love the part about load the Hamstrings...Now the QUADS! BOOM!! Makes so much sense and gives me a cue now because we always focus on getting knees back and extension. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Love that energy on her lift. Speaks volumes
What a huge difference this video made before yesterdays session.
The content on this channel is just HUGE
This was one of the best instructional videos I have ever seen. 6 star review ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ out of 5 stars.
dude the mini edits are great and fun. LOTTA DAMAGE
I have always been terrible at this thanks I’m gonna try that tomorrow, You guys are awesome
I definitely need to work on this. I definitely cover the bar for too long. The incorrect position you showed at the end, perfectly describes my most common positional error.
You the best Dane!!! Keep up the good work. Also, many many congrats to your lifter and wishing you guys much success.👍👍👍🖖🖖🖖.
This channel has helped me so much!
My Olympia lifting is terrible, and this is the best anyone has ever explained it. I just hang clean and hang snatch everything. If I can get this correct I know I can lift alot more weight. Thank you
Very good tutorial. Picked up some ques I have never heard. Definitely will be implementing some of the things you mentioned in my next training session
Hi, from Hellas, you are doing very good job, thanks for your great posts. Cheers from Mesolongi wrestling team.
Such a great video! Thank you for the granular details and cues.
would be nice to have such energy in a coach.
Gold! Just gold!
Great content sir, will surely add it in my schedule and will track my performance!
Thanks! Will try this tomorrow moring!
Great video, Dane. Thanks for sharing.
Fantastic tutorial
Used to be we coached first pull ends at lower third of thigh on snatch then transitions to power position. If you lift with back to get bar from at knee to above knee /lower thigh you lose hamstring stretch and the stretch reflex for a fast knee rebend (and quad prestretch for explosions.) almost no one is patient enough on first pull. To me, that’s what no one is talking about.
the differences between this and rippetoes coaching on the power snatch/clean videos are nuts… i think he needs to reach out to you and do some type of collaborative work
Thanks for the tip 👍
Great video!!
Thanks!
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this is very good advice.
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man there is so much technique here. i am sincerely not trying to be a Debbie downer but i feel like the time i need to get the techique down makes other lifts a better use of time for building strength and explosion? certainly would help make things more fun though
Ya voy entendiendo, no mans land, good content
Good vid!
great tip actually everyone doing that
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I got the whole technique from your videos and it's awesome. Although I have a problem after the reciprocation point. My knees go under the bar but when I extend I kinda bang the bar, any drill to fix that?
Try to think of the bar coming straight up off the hips instead of banging it!
Looove the shirt 🫶🏽
Hello sir can you please upload videos related to increase speed of leg lifting and punching for karate athletes
thank you for the suggestion!
good to see repping Tonga there bro
You r God damn right ser
digging the Shirt tho !!!!
Does cleans and snatches rely more on the strenght of the individual or the technique? Which one of these 2 plays a bigger role in this lifts?
My goal is to reach my genetic potential, and I want to know do I need to put my time and effort into cleans and snatches or the deadlifts, squats, pull ups and bench are enough for that?
I dont want to have an overlap in my exercises strenght-wise.
Peace!
both strength and technique go side by side to become a champion in weightlifting. You cannot be successful with only one. Work through both!
I find myself overthinking too much i just need to front deep squat more to build some raw leg power.
It will end like me overthinking my golf swing and hacking huge lumps of dirt out of the ground 😅
Where did he get his shirt from??
Dane, what are your best lifts in the snatch and c and j?
This knee thing Is for the Power clean too?
For me going from no mans land to power position I feel like its just lifting the barbell with my back. Any ideas how to use hips instead of my back ? I also feel like my hip tuck under/posterior pelvic tilt if I dont cover the bar.
think of a tighter upper back, while the chest stays forward and pushing the knees forward for more dorisflexion. Let me know what you think
I have an idea.
1 warm up set with a medium weight.
Then 2 of your heavy PR weight for that week or session.
Personally I think it could lead to injury but it could be good for bulking.
What do you think?
could work. Could use a bit more volume though!
If your knees come forward, so do your hips, which means your shoulders are no longer over the bar and the posterior tension is lost.
And does that matter?
@@Sully1111that only matters for the first pull to under the knees position
so the bar is dragging up the legs at all times in order to keep it close?
yes. Close bar path is key!
Yes! Just like Tian Tao and Ruslan Nurudinov, both world record holders in C&J (look at ATG and hookgrip slowmo videos)
Very interested to know about your Tonga coat of arms t-shirt Dane! Did you get that in Tonga?
my buddy got it for me!
Ahhhh… yes, yes🤔
Well well well, let's see...
I think you'll like it 👍👍
Well that’s a great video but in my opinion is incorrect. Shoulders should be over the bar at any point, independently of the knee movement. I’m not saying that knees shouldn’t come forward after clearing back, but in that example her shoulders are too far back and that puts her in a very difficult position to put pressure on the ground and lift
What is 49k? It's kilogram or kilo for short in English.
How should starposition look like i snatch and clean for someone who is 170 cm and have long femurs and short tibias. High hips or low hips, feet straightforward or toes pointed slightly outward?
For the hips, try whatever is comfortable and lets you keep the bar tight to the shins off the floor. For the feet, most of our lifters feel better with their toes out slightly.
Hayley trying hard not to laugh
i have tried this on barbell with 40 kg it literally flied.
SCOOP
PPPPEEEEAAAAAA SSSSS
Isnt the danger here that people will take the double knee bend as being a 'delibarate' movement rather than an incidental one that occurs when proper technique is used?
I think it can actually be trained deliberately with effective, mindful practice. With that being said we also have to be aware of negatives from doing so…some lifters get on their toes early and even move their chest back too much to compensate for a “feeling” of knees under. Be aware of those instances while still deliberately training the technical action.
@@GarageStrength see that's where I would respectively disagree. I think trying to consciously perform a double knee bend leads to loss of momentum and force transfer during the explosion. A better cue might be reminding the lifter to focus on keeping behind and under the bar when the hips drive forwards.
The movement of the knee is an effect. the cause is the intention of the lifter with the bar. Trying to explain how the knees should move is like telling a discus thrower to throw further. a further throw is an effect, knee movement is an effect.
I disagree, telling someone to lift more weight would be the same as telling someone to throw further. Telling someone to plantar flex in the discus throw is the same as the knee…or even keeping the knee bent on the finish of the discus throw to be more precise.
Perhaps the intent, no pun intended, is to initiate the transition sooner than later. Biomechanically, I don't think you can avoid scooping the knees under the weight... it's just a matter of when and to what degree. (?)
@@congoose100 so in my philosophy of lifting, when and what degree are led by the bar position in relative to the lifter.
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I get told not to do this by my coach all the time.
Scooping the hips , bringing hips to bar is not a good way to teach somebody.
haley's ig?
dood really?
Such a great video!