Okay this was a good take but saying all Tua does is short passes is crazy . Dude led the league in passing yards and air yards. That’s the only part I’ll knock on
@@JdMJigsawair yards per attempt literally excludes yac yards. And nobody has a higher yards per attempt over the last 2 years then Tua. Combine that with one of the highest yards per attempt in general, this literally means he is throwing farther, on average, then anyone else in the league... You can go ahead and delete that if you want. Pretty embarrassing really. Don't get your football knowledge from Madden please. That videogame is awful
I like Dan Patrick, but a very lazy take saying an 80 yard TD was just a 7 yard pass from Tua. He should actually watch the games before saying that nonsense
This is the typical colin cowherd take -- lazy and completely inaccurate. Dude consistently has the ball in the air 40-50 yards on those TD passes. This idea that he's a YAC merchant is completely false and you literally only need to watch highlights to see that
Come on Dan it was rare for two of the throat a Tyreek short and then and then him go for 70 yards. It was usually 20 to 40 yards and then the run was like one of the best yards in the NFL.
These guys get paid to be commentaors and analysts but still dont watch the games. Tua passes the ball 7 yards and tyreke runs for 73 yards? That may have happen like 2 or 3 times all year. Tua was NUMBER 1 in total air yards! Do your job and watch the games. You guys are getting paid millions, stop being lazy andndo some actual work. Even a quick look at Air yards as a % of total yards. Tua was better than seemingly all the top QBs. Tied with Dak at 61% of his total yards coming from air yards. Better than mahomes, allen, love, lamar, purdy. Etc. what do you guys do at work. Circle jerk.
Not sure where Dan is coming from about Tua's deep balls. Yes he's a smaller guy for an NFL QB and maybe can't throw a ball as far as Justin Herbert or even Lamar Jackson, but his deep balls are great and incredibly accurate.
average QB size =6'3'" 225....Tua is 6'1" 220(btw Lamar in Baltimore is lighter than TUA ..and maybe inch and half taller)...there's at least 6-12 NFL Qb's same size or SMALLER in NFL
@@Keeferz4Keeperz Yep and Brock Purdy is 6'1 and almost won the SB. Caleb Williams is 6'1, Baker Mayfield 6'1, Kylar Murry 5'10, Bryce Young 5'10 all were the #1 overall pick. That means 4 of the last 6 QBs taken #1 overall have been 6'1 or under.
There are clips where Tua talks about Mike McDaniel straight up telling him on game day that he's playing poorly. The difference is the overall trust and encouragement over time.
And Dungy collected all the playbooks whenever they went to New England because Belichick would hire staff to steal them from locker rooms and hotels! Peyton Manning would speak in the hallways because he said the visiting locker room was bugged for sound. Patriots are the greatest cheaters of all time, truly inspiring. Belichick the Pete Rose of football.
Why does it seem like every other qb is graded on a curve except for Tua? Tua's played one full season in the NFL, led the league in yards and made the playoffs. But it's always "its because he has fast recievers and Mike McDaniel". But these same guys will talk about Herbert or Lawrence, two guys that have done absolutely nothing in the NFL, with mostly praise and blame their faults on "no recievers, no coach etc". I guess if you're not 6'4" with a cannon arm you just can't be a good qb.
@@ryanmussell739 I do think this is part of it. I saw video on YT a while back that was mirrored and he does look more impressive when throwing right handed.
@@timothypaulino8454 The Tua hate is because he is a Christian like Tim Tebow. I had a friend like this, people are just naturally jealous of them, like they know they are in a secret club with God and they are left outside. Odd phenomenon. My theory is most people have higher dimensional malevolent entities(demons) attached to them and people with a close relationship with God the demons are repulsed, like oil & water. Just don't mix. The elite know about this and have made pacts with the entities. The satanic elite abuse children on Epstein Island and then have the government & media cover the entire thing up.
It's not the case that the long TDs were short passes with lots of YAC. I understand that you don't watch every Dolphins game like I do but you can find a UA-cam vid of all Tyreek's TDs last year. You will see that the long ones were almost all deep passes.
In general our society has zero accountability. If you say someone is wrong then you’re wrong for pointing it out. Athletes used to have more motivation because they didn’t just get paid because someone else did.
He hasn't proven himself yet and neither has the coach. He should have been tagged for one more year. And now that he has the 200 million, he can say anything and Miami cannot change coaches.
Tua has the best deep ball in the NFL by every metric. Tua throws the ball deeper than almost every QB in the NFL. My one knock on Tua is he needs to check down more and not always throw bombs even though he is the best at it. I'd like Tua to be more like Tom Brady was and check down more rather than force the big throws. He is young still and will only get better.
Imagine getting paid to do this job and have absolutely no clue about how Tua was near the top of the league in average air yards per throw... These dinosaurs get lazy AF.
The Tony Dungy method or the Bill Parcells method Although i prefer the Bill Walsh method, don’t target the player, target their position coach/coordinator for the players mistake
Tyreek gets credit for the YAC, but Tua is the problem in the losses? That's idiotic. He wasn't the only one that couldn't play in those cold weather and physical games.
3:17 A good coach knows his players and uses the technique that will motivate the athlete. 4 types of athletes. 1) Highly skilled self motivated (Kobe) 2) Highly skilled not motivated (JaMarcus Russell) 3) Highly motivated not as skilled works their butt off 4) Not skilled or motivated...Coaches don't see those players 🤣
That is the Samoan upbringing, but donʻt mistake that for being soft. The Samoan temper and aggression are something to fear. If there was a Marvel character that best describes Samanʻs it is THE INCREDIBLE HULK, nice until angered, then RUN.
I appreciate that Dan didn't resort to the same clickbait headline as the rest of the media, claiming Tua called Flores a "terrible person." I get that it was inferred, when he said "If you're the President of the United States, and you have a terrible person telling you that you suck..." That is what is known as a hypothetical statement... but the media always need the most clickbait headline. Would be nice if this could just be resolved... but the media hates Tua, and always wants to throw more dirt on him every chance they can get.
@@TuatagaloaTeo The irony of Flores. "I didn't want you because you suck and will get me fired so I'm going to try to replace you and ruin your career to save my job. Then it will cost me my job and I'll call my black GM & jewish owner racists and sue the NFL for discrimination even though I'm clearly a DEI hire to begin with. Go Kamala!"
@@Bone_youtube_soft The stat about not winning a playoff game since 2000 has nothing to do with Tua, since he was drafted in 2020. Only a complete moron would think that is a reflection upon him. Virtually all QBs and teams play poorly in cold weather games, especially when they are based in warm weather cities. Tua's only playoff appearance was a road game in the 2nd coldest playoff game in NFL history. What will you have to say when Tua wins the MVP this year, and leads Miami to the best record in the NFL, and gets them to (AT LEAST) the AFC title game?
Tough coaching and criticism is one thing. Belittling and telling a person they shouldn't be there ain't coaching. That's personal. But you know when you're not the medias favorite they'll find ways to blame you, discredit your abilities and give someone else credit. That's what Dan did
Dan clearly doesn’t watch Dolphins games. I have yet to see a single time where Tua threw a 7 yard pass to Tyreek, that went for a TD of more than 20 total yards. If Tyreek scores a 60 yard TD, it’s because Tua threw the ball at least 40 air yards. Way more of Tuas passes to Tyreek are from 15-30 air yards, and gain 5-7 yards after catch, than there are short 3-10 yard passes that go for even just 25 yards. Let alone going for 50-75 yards like everyone seems to think. Maybe try watching these games folks.
Yeah Tua is hitting Tyreek & Waddle about 20+ yards downfield a lot of the time. It's actually the short gadget passes to Tyreek that often fail and keep his yards per catch down.
@@amonrodriguez3518Are you dumb? He said if it’s an 80 yard TD chances are it’s a 7 yard pass and Reek took it the other 73. If you find more than 3 passes like that, not even TDs just 3 passes from Tua to reek like that I’ll delete my account. He definitely is biased because Tua is the #1 deep passer in the NFL. In fact all Dolphin fans will tell you we wish he’d take the checkdown more he’s too much of a gunslinger. This is another thing that Brian Flores did to Tua, 2 years since that terrorist is gone and ppl still think Tua checks the ball down every play. STUPID!!!
@@tjones2101 Mike Wallace (nice player good speed) is not Tyreek or Waddle lol. So that argument makes no sense. Tannehill is a good try tho. Maybe slightly lower numbers. But I think even Ryan could hit 5 yard slants that they break for 50
Factually inaccurate about what an 80 yard TD represents with Tua. It’s lazy to think it’s a 5 yard pass and his receivers do the rest. Look at the stats and tape from last two years. Do better Dan.
The dude has played ONE playoff game! This is the narrative of his career? One playoff game? He threw 3 TDs against Buffalo in 22’ in a snow storm. These narratives are so dumb - let him play a couple years.
The pundits just repeat what the others say. I was surprised that was the narrative last year given the previous years the dolphins twice went neck and neck with the bills in Buffalo late season.
Tua born in Hawaii played football there. Tua goes to Alabama and plays against warm weather teams. Tua goes to Florida in his first postseason game ever he goes up against the best HC/QB combo ever with the greatest TE ever in one of the coldest games in NFL history with about ten starters missing. Noob fans: "But he sucks he can't win the playoffs".
@@Bone_youtube_soft they didn’t win - but it wasn’t because Tua can’t play in the cold or can’t win a big game. That was the point - calm down…give him some time before throwing out these narratives.
Quarterbacks should NOT be awarded 80yd. TD for a 7yd. Pass and 73yd. Run from the receiver!!!! EVER!! WTF, did the QB have to do with shaking off 2 defenders and bolting for the end zone.. He only threw the ball 7 yds..!!!!
Where do you live, dude? Siberia? I mean, I'm in KC and it's 98 degrees. You have a sweatshirt on over a t-shirt, and a fire burning, like it's a week before the AFC Championship Game.
For clarity, a head coach tells his quarterback he sucks and daydreams about having TB12, is fired for lack of better word, "sucking" by not winning ball games, in which he's hired to do and in turn, sues the team for racial discrimination when his work as head coach isn't up to par. Flores' record reflected other fired dolphins coaches and he was whacked. Not because of his race, but for not winning. In comes another HC, who moves the W-L's bar and Tua, with injuries improves. Tua is correct in his assessment about Flores.
Flores came in and said "Hey Grier see your 1st rd pick Minkah Fitzpatrick who had a great rookie season, I'm going to play him out of position, treat him like trash until he forces a trade. Then I'm going to do the same to Tua! When they make it to the Pro Bowl every year everybody will know how bad I screwed it all up and I will sue the NFL for RaCIsM because my black GM & Jewish owner were meanies and made my tampon hurt"
@@rustyshackleford8149 that’s a rich comment coming from someone using a characters name from a cartoon ! Back to the land of make believe and don’t forget your soy !
Dan is like all the national media, never watched Tua play, just repeats what other say. Tua has never had a short passing game, he might this year with a great TE and RB to throw to for the first time, but that's never been his game. He has thrown down field and get little YAC.
Does Dan not watch the Dolphins? Most of the 70 yard passes are 50+ in the air. The amount of air yards to Tyreek is insane. Just watch the 4th quarter from the Ravens comeback and you'll see.
Jimmy Johnson said it best if a bubble or average player fell asleep in a meeting there would be hell to pay. If Aikman yawned he'd offer to get him a pillow.
2:08 Dan cmon. This just isnt true. We all thought it would be crazy yac yards in Miami when Hill got there. That isnt the case. Tua is throwing consistently deeper then anyone in the league the last 2 years. Air yards per attempt, is a stat just as it sounds. The distance, in the air, the ball travels, from pass to completion. It entirely excludes yac yards. Nobody has a higher number then he does over the last 2 years. He is at the top or near the top of all passing metrics the last 2 years. We all know he doesnt have an arm like Herbert or Mahomes, but you dont need one to throw a ball 60 yards. Hell, im almost twice these kids ages and i can still throw a ball a good 50 yards. Having an arm like Herbert is great if your recievers dont get any seperation or have to constantly throw into tight windows, as far as depth though, you dont see 80 yard td throws from anyone. It just doesnt happen consistently enough to even acknowledge. This notion that all he does is dink and dunk is objectively false, we literally have 2 years of data and film to show that. Now, i dont believe Tua is good enough to will his team to a Superbowl. I have major questions when it comes to that and playoffs in general....but all these other knocks you guys still bring up? He has quite literally put them all to bed, they arent true
If what Tua says is true, that's not coaching that's verbal abuse. All I know about Brian Florez is it seems like he is not the friendliest, upbeat guy. He looks like he has a chip on his shoulder. He suec The NFL and still works for them, which I never understood. I saw McDaniel on The Show and he's a brilliant, positive, funny young man who loves his job. I believe that The Dolphins will win The AFC East. The Jets are overhyped and The Dolphins are quietly under the radar,
Tua father was harsh. He was handed to Flores by Nick Saban notorious for being a hardass. I dont think Tua problem is people being hard. It seemed that Flores wasnt just difficult, but potentially resented Tua given how well Herbert did. Saban was hard, but i dont think Tua ever got the sense from Saban that he was worthless.
Was Flores old school or Hate because he didn’t get the QB he wanted. Was he trying to sabotage Tua to confirm his choice or is his coaching style that tough…??? I understand Nick Saban is a tough old school coach and Tua loved him. How come Tua isn’t loving Flores’ tough old school coaching…unless it was HATE.
Hi Dan, can I call you Dan, well Dan maybe if you bothered doing a modicum of research on the NFL you'd have noticed that Tua led the NFL in both passing yards and air yards last season.
Just look at the Patriots recently after Josh McDaniels left. Belichick intentionally tried to ruin Mack Jones because he never wanted him(he wanted Davis Mills). WhatBelichick did to Mack Jones last year was so disgraceful, they wouldn't even talk the guy towards the end. He had a Defense coordinator Matt Patricia calling offensive plays. Belichick ruined his already tarnish legacy, he was a over glorified DC that benefited greatly from Brady and his OC's.
Good for Tua. Jerk boss is a jerk boss. Here is a guy Brian Flores who is suing the NFL and the Dolphins dropping confidential information. The get back is always worse.
Tua was 2nd in the league last season in completed air yards. (2,447) Only Dak had more. 3rd in the league in completed air yards per attempt. Tua threw for 4,624 yds. 2,447 of them were air yards, 2,177 were YAC. Mahomes threw for 4,183 yds. 1,631 were completed in the air. 2,552, or 61% of his total yards came from yac, compared to just 47% for Tua. Very far off Dan's clueless 91% assertion. One of the few places Tua drops out of the top 5 in stats, is actually yac per completion where he is 7th. Brock, Patrick, Russell, Matthew and Lamar all had their receivers avg more yac per completion than Tua. So, watch some tape and stop perpetuating false commentary.
It's sad these pundits that keep bringing up 'Tua throws short passes and his recievers get the yac'. As soon as they say this I know that they don't watch film and just repeat narratives they've heard. Nor do they, at the very least, look at stats. Tua was at the top of the league in Air Yards Completed. Ahead of Love, Allen, Mahomes, Goff, Lawrence and Herbert. Do better Dan.
Patrick I don’t know what football game you’re watching. Tua was 2nd in yards per pass. And had more 45 yard pass last season more then anyone in the league. Patrick I think you need to go back and watch all the games
Brother he had some of the best numbers in the league of passes of 40+ yards (that’s in the air) does this guy watch football? I don’t understand the hate. The point doesn’t exist… it’s been dead but they still keep beating that drum…
Nick Saban embraced Tua and wanted him there. They had a great relationship. Flores wanted Jordan Love then tried to replace Tua with Deshaun Watson. All he saw was a small QB who was shorter than him.
Dan Patrick is lazy broadcasting that spews out false information. He just regurgitates inaccurate narratives he hears from other people. Tua, I believe, was ranked 2nd in Yards Per Pass. If you are going to have a platform, use facts when it comes to stats.
Shut up Dan you’re completely wrong and don’t watch the dolphins. Tua is literally one of the best deep ball passers in the league and he’s been throwing bombs right in stride where Hill and Waddle don’t even get many yards after catch. Jeez do your homework, otherwise your podcast sucks
Flores was only hired as head coach because of dei and the rooney rule. He couldn't handle the responsibilities and clearly wasn't capable of doing the job.
Im a dolphins fan who thinks its clear that Tua has essentially a below average arm when it comes to driving the ball....but the narrative that he doesnt throw deep and all his stats are YAC yards by tyreek hill is lazy and inaccurate. Look at the plays, look at the advanced numbers. Its just stupid coming from someone who has paid people to fact check this shttt. And no....it's not a "sensitive" Tuanon perspective. Y'all just lazy and wrong. Also....the players at ESPN this morning did a great job of scrapping the bullshttt off this false narrative about "tough love". Theres a broad difference between coaching hard and demeaning someone and quite literally telling someone theyre not good enough and you don't believe in them. To do the latter is coaching malpractice. The terms of the conversation in this clip lie about the entire circumstance around Flores and MMD as well. Lazy times two.
The take was mediocre. Who cares if the dolphins 🐬 can’t win in cold climates. The point of the subject was that Flores was a jerk to him by demeaning him. That was supposed to be the topic.
2:11 STOP THIS FALSE NARRTIVE!! DAMN....... Tua is Top 5 in yards per attempt and yards per completion over the las 2 years with McDaniel's. Meaning? He throw deeper than 90% of the league! You know who had some of the lowest yardage throws at QB? Mahomes, Herbert, Allen ........ So stop feeding the massives false information.
What the?? What are they talking about? These guys are talking mumbo jumbo narratives😂 I know they're intelligent guys, and they're suppose to create intriguing media content but they're not athletes or coaches so.... I don’t know, these analysts and sports host who never played at a high level just don't get my respect when explaining how athletes and coaches should be.
Two years in a row Tua has the highest passer rating on throws over 25 yards down field. Stop feeding into this bull$hit narrative that he only throws short passes. You KNOW it's not true!
you may need to be a hardass on children and teens. once the players are being paid. they are professionals and should be treated as such. think about any other job, if your boss was yelling and screaming, saying you suck. that boss would either get jumped after work or be out of a job for high turnover.
I’m a dolphins fan . I like Tua, but I’d love a big-armed QB who can play in cold weather. Our team is so small. Tua throws a good ball . But when it’s cold and the speed is negated, he can’t throw a 7 or a post consistently. No way the Bills are we’re supposed to win the division
Tua just has to be quick... I know you are a smart man, but that is prob the dumbest thing Ive heard said when it comes to sports. just has to be quick... lol
very lazy take. no diligence taken at all. . tua is top five in air yard thrown, air yard completions, hill and waddle are middle of the pack in separation and yards after catch( YAC). it easy to do home work. we know you have a staff plus google is free. one easy you tua highlight real would have inform dan. just very lazy
Okay this was a good take but saying all Tua does is short passes is crazy . Dude led the league in passing yards and air yards. That’s the only part I’ll knock on
It’s easy when you have the 4 fastest players of offense. His tape is not that dynamic
@SadfoxGuyver ...still got to pass it to them
Nope, yards after catch is why he lead in that stat, not because Tua was throwing 60-80 yard bombs
YAC. YAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCC
@@JdMJigsawair yards per attempt literally excludes yac yards.
And nobody has a higher yards per attempt over the last 2 years then Tua.
Combine that with one of the highest yards per attempt in general, this literally means he is throwing farther, on average, then anyone else in the league...
You can go ahead and delete that if you want. Pretty embarrassing really. Don't get your football knowledge from Madden please. That videogame is awful
It’s obvious Dan doesn’t watch dolphin games.
Breaking news! National media doesn’t care about your team 🤡
This. “Tua’s just doing dump offs and short slants. All the long TD’s and all yards after catch,” is provably false.
I like Dan Patrick, but a very lazy take saying an 80 yard TD was just a 7 yard pass from Tua. He should actually watch the games before saying that nonsense
That unfortunately is the narrative. As a fins fans I'd say it was mostly the other way around.
💯💯💯💯 I say the same thing
This is the typical colin cowherd take -- lazy and completely inaccurate. Dude consistently has the ball in the air 40-50 yards on those TD passes. This idea that he's a YAC merchant is completely false and you literally only need to watch highlights to see that
@@rthfalconer1306 facts
Lost some respect on that comment Dan. Tua was throwing bombs last year
I've had both coaching styles in highschool, tbh I needed both, the tough one to keep me sharp and the encouraging one to keep my morale up.
C'mon Dan. At least watch the highlights if nothing else.
Come on Dan it was rare for two of the throat a Tyreek short and then and then him go for 70 yards. It was usually 20 to 40 yards and then the run was like one of the best yards in the NFL.
These guys get paid to be commentaors and analysts but still dont watch the games.
Tua passes the ball 7 yards and tyreke runs for 73 yards? That may have happen like 2 or 3 times all year.
Tua was NUMBER 1 in total air yards!
Do your job and watch the games. You guys are getting paid millions, stop being lazy andndo some actual work.
Even a quick look at Air yards as a % of total yards. Tua was better than seemingly all the top QBs. Tied with Dak at 61% of his total yards coming from air yards. Better than mahomes, allen, love, lamar, purdy. Etc. what do you guys do at work. Circle jerk.
Thank you! It's very disappointing that these people just say things without really knowing anything.
Facts
You want coverage of your team watch your local sports shows 🤡
Lol imagine telling sports media to watch preseason 😂😂😂 "It's your job!!!" Lmao easy, Karen, preseason doesnt matter once Week 1 starts.
@@pretzelhunt nobody is talking about preseason...
Hopefully no owner ever again gifts Flores a head coaching job.
Tua IS too soft…a cupcake…
@@mrgartrellofficialor was it the hc that claims all this racial discrimination. Flores is 🗑
@@onward-fp2fz yes…both of them are soft and whiny
Not sure where Dan is coming from about Tua's deep balls. Yes he's a smaller guy for an NFL QB and maybe can't throw a ball as far as Justin Herbert or even Lamar Jackson, but his deep balls are great and incredibly accurate.
Enjoy those throws. Winter, excellent defenses, the Bills....
average QB size =6'3'" 225....Tua is 6'1" 220(btw Lamar in Baltimore is lighter than TUA ..and maybe inch and half taller)...there's at least 6-12 NFL Qb's same size or SMALLER in NFL
@@Keeferz4Keeperzthey are composed different
@@Keeferz4Keeperz Yep and Brock Purdy is 6'1 and almost won the SB. Caleb Williams is 6'1, Baker Mayfield 6'1, Kylar Murry 5'10, Bryce Young 5'10 all were the #1 overall pick. That means 4 of the last 6 QBs taken #1 overall have been 6'1 or under.
@@dkgdkg2178 what does this mean lol
Can't imagine what is was like with Ditka and Buddy Ryan on the Bears, both were intense. 😂
There are clips where Tua talks about Mike McDaniel straight up telling him on game day that he's playing poorly. The difference is the overall trust and encouragement over time.
Tony Dungy also stood on his word.
And was hella respected
And Dungy collected all the playbooks whenever they went to New England because Belichick would hire staff to steal them from locker rooms and hotels! Peyton Manning would speak in the hallways because he said the visiting locker room was bugged for sound. Patriots are the greatest cheaters of all time, truly inspiring. Belichick the Pete Rose of football.
Why does it seem like every other qb is graded on a curve except for Tua? Tua's played one full season in the NFL, led the league in yards and made the playoffs. But it's always "its because he has fast recievers and Mike McDaniel". But these same guys will talk about Herbert or Lawrence, two guys that have done absolutely nothing in the NFL, with mostly praise and blame their faults on "no recievers, no coach etc". I guess if you're not 6'4" with a cannon arm you just can't be a good qb.
I agree. Both all 3 are good. To be fair Lawrence has gotten a lot of flack for lack luster seasons. Tua hate is unusual idk how that happened
I think it is simple. Fans hate tua because he is left handed.
His throws look different.
@@ryanmussell739 I do think this is part of it. I saw video on YT a while back that was mirrored and he does look more impressive when throwing right handed.
@@timothypaulino8454 The Tua hate is because he is a Christian like Tim Tebow. I had a friend like this, people are just naturally jealous of them, like they know they are in a secret club with God and they are left outside. Odd phenomenon. My theory is most people have higher dimensional malevolent entities(demons) attached to them and people with a close relationship with God the demons are repulsed, like oil & water. Just don't mix. The elite know about this and have made pacts with the entities. The satanic elite abuse children on Epstein Island and then have the government & media cover the entire thing up.
Led the league in yards but couldn't pick up many yards when the game really mattered in KC .
It's not the case that the long TDs were short passes with lots of YAC. I understand that you don't watch every Dolphins game like I do but you can find a UA-cam vid of all Tyreek's TDs last year. You will see that the long ones were almost all deep passes.
Keep enjoying those deep passes in the hot Miami climate. Once it gets cold...they're far and few in between
In general our society has zero accountability. If you say someone is wrong then you’re wrong for pointing it out. Athletes used to have more motivation because they didn’t just get paid because someone else did.
He hasn't proven himself yet and neither has the coach. He should have been tagged for one more year. And now that he has the 200 million, he can say anything and Miami cannot change coaches.
Tua has the best deep ball in the NFL by every metric. Tua throws the ball deeper than almost every QB in the NFL. My one knock on Tua is he needs to check down more and not always throw bombs even though he is the best at it. I'd like Tua to be more like Tom Brady was and check down more rather than force the big throws. He is young still and will only get better.
The same could be said of the Belichick style… Tom Brady made the Belichick way of coaching look like it worked.
Imagine getting paid to do this job and have absolutely no clue about how Tua was near the top of the league in average air yards per throw... These dinosaurs get lazy AF.
The Tony Dungy method or the Bill Parcells method
Although i prefer the Bill Walsh method, don’t target the player, target their position coach/coordinator for the players mistake
Tyreek gets credit for the YAC, but Tua is the problem in the losses? That's idiotic. He wasn't the only one that couldn't play in those cold weather and physical games.
Dan doesn’t watch the games
Are you sure? I bet you are spewing diarrhea to see if it covers.
Mike McDaniel is a national football league treasure. There's a lot of QB's that would still be in the league if he'd been their coach
3:17 A good coach knows his players and uses the technique that will motivate the athlete. 4 types of athletes. 1) Highly skilled self motivated (Kobe) 2) Highly skilled not motivated (JaMarcus Russell) 3) Highly motivated not as skilled works their butt off 4) Not skilled or motivated...Coaches don't see those players 🤣
I’m a huge Dolphins fan and Tua seems like a great kid. Unfortunately he gives off that “soft as butter left out in summer” vibe.
That is the Samoan upbringing, but donʻt mistake that for being soft. The Samoan temper and aggression are something to fear. If there was a Marvel character that best describes Samanʻs it is THE INCREDIBLE HULK, nice until angered, then RUN.
don't think Dan Patrick understands "tough love". seemingly the interactions between Flores and Tua it was "tough without the love."
I appreciate that Dan didn't resort to the same clickbait headline as the rest of the media, claiming Tua called Flores a "terrible person." I get that it was inferred, when he said "If you're the President of the United States, and you have a terrible person telling you that you suck..." That is what is known as a hypothetical statement... but the media always need the most clickbait headline. Would be nice if this could just be resolved... but the media hates Tua, and always wants to throw more dirt on him every chance they can get.
Absolutely old school coaching vs new school coaching. Times have changed.
No not true. Tua has texts from Flores saying you suck and you better not blow this. That is not old school.
Old school coaching had nothing to do with having the NFL test him several times, hoping he'd fail so he could bench him with a reason
@@TuatagaloaTeo The irony of Flores. "I didn't want you because you suck and will get me fired so I'm going to try to replace you and ruin your career to save my job. Then it will cost me my job and I'll call my black GM & jewish owner racists and sue the NFL for discrimination even though I'm clearly a DEI hire to begin with. Go Kamala!"
Yeah stopped watching after 2 minutes this fool hasn’t watched a single Dolphins game lol. Media is an absolute joke nowadays.
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Yep!
To be fair there is 17 of them a season now...haha
What's there to watch? Haven't won a playoff game since 2000. Looks good until December. Tua record in games under 70 degrees is 6-16
@@Bone_youtube_soft The stat about not winning a playoff game since 2000 has nothing to do with Tua, since he was drafted in 2020. Only a complete moron would think that is a reflection upon him. Virtually all QBs and teams play poorly in cold weather games, especially when they are based in warm weather cities. Tua's only playoff appearance was a road game in the 2nd coldest playoff game in NFL history.
What will you have to say when Tua wins the MVP this year, and leads Miami to the best record in the NFL, and gets them to (AT LEAST) the AFC title game?
Tough coaching and criticism is one thing. Belittling and telling a person they shouldn't be there ain't coaching. That's personal. But you know when you're not the medias favorite they'll find ways to blame you, discredit your abilities and give someone else credit. That's what Dan did
Dan clearly doesn’t watch Dolphins games. I have yet to see a single time where Tua threw a 7 yard pass to Tyreek, that went for a TD of more than 20 total yards. If Tyreek scores a 60 yard TD, it’s because Tua threw the ball at least 40 air yards. Way more of Tuas passes to Tyreek are from 15-30 air yards, and gain 5-7 yards after catch, than there are short 3-10 yard passes that go for even just 25 yards. Let alone going for 50-75 yards like everyone seems to think. Maybe try watching these games folks.
Yeah Tua is hitting Tyreek & Waddle about 20+ yards downfield a lot of the time. It's actually the short gadget passes to Tyreek that often fail and keep his yards per catch down.
When pundits say “Tua just throws 5 yards and Tyreek takes it 70”. I know they don’t watch the Phins.. that’s not what they do
You're wrong about 8 Yard pass to Rique for 80 ... He throws the ball middle to deep routes a lot
#1 deep thrower past 2 seasons. Real lazy take.
Extremely lazy 🤦🏾♂️.
Lol. Tyreek and Waddle…. The reason for that. Dan isn’t biased. Dolphins fans are….
@@amonrodriguez3518Are you dumb? He said if it’s an 80 yard TD chances are it’s a 7 yard pass and Reek took it the other 73. If you find more than 3 passes like that, not even TDs just 3 passes from Tua to reek like that I’ll delete my account. He definitely is biased because Tua is the #1 deep passer in the NFL. In fact all Dolphin fans will tell you we wish he’d take the checkdown more he’s too much of a gunslinger. This is another thing that Brian Flores did to Tua, 2 years since that terrorist is gone and ppl still think Tua checks the ball down every play. STUPID!!!
@@amonrodriguez3518I watch tannehill over throw and under throw Wallace for years. It still takes a qb with skills to hit deep receivers consistently
@@tjones2101 Mike Wallace (nice player good speed) is not Tyreek or Waddle lol. So that argument makes no sense. Tannehill is a good try tho. Maybe slightly lower numbers. But I think even Ryan could hit 5 yard slants that they break for 50
Come on Dan Patrick, at least watch Dolphins games.
Tua got coached by Saban.... I think he knows how to handle hard coaching.
Factually inaccurate about what an 80 yard TD represents with Tua. It’s lazy to think it’s a 5 yard pass and his receivers do the rest. Look at the stats and tape from last two years. Do better Dan.
Different coaching styles, nothing more. Its across the board in sports
Where is the darrius rucker update?
You never seen the videos of Saban yelling?
The dude has played ONE playoff game! This is the narrative of his career? One playoff game? He threw 3 TDs against Buffalo in 22’ in a snow storm. These narratives are so dumb - let him play a couple years.
The pundits just repeat what the others say. I was surprised that was the narrative last year given the previous years the dolphins twice went neck and neck with the bills in Buffalo late season.
Tua born in Hawaii played football there. Tua goes to Alabama and plays against warm weather teams. Tua goes to Florida in his first postseason game ever he goes up against the best HC/QB combo ever with the greatest TE ever in one of the coldest games in NFL history with about ten starters missing. Noob fans: "But he sucks he can't win the playoffs".
I don't remember them winning that snowstorm game
@@Bone_youtube_soft they didn’t win - but it wasn’t because Tua can’t play in the cold or can’t win a big game. That was the point - calm down…give him some time before throwing out these narratives.
@@jimhall2924 6-14 record in games under 70 degrees says otherwise
Tua didn't say which coach said what but this leaves me feeiling that McDaniel is a total jerk for tellling Tua that he "doesn't belong"
Classic teacher mode, hold the reins tight to start the year and gradually loosen them or its chaos
Quarterbacks should NOT be awarded 80yd. TD for a 7yd. Pass and 73yd. Run from the receiver!!!! EVER!!
WTF, did the QB have to do with shaking off 2 defenders and bolting for the end zone..
He only threw the ball 7 yds..!!!!
But what QB has good stats in bad weather, this a team game
Where do you live, dude? Siberia? I mean, I'm in KC and it's 98 degrees. You have a sweatshirt on over a t-shirt, and a fire burning, like it's a week before the AFC Championship Game.
Where is this set?
I think Dan confused Tua with Brock Purdy.
All the analysts are Tua hater except for like 6 analysts that have Tua back but all of them are haters 😂
Tony dungy was sooo great, in the regular season 😂😂😂😂
For clarity, a head coach tells his quarterback he sucks and daydreams about having TB12, is fired for lack of better word, "sucking" by not winning ball games, in which he's hired to do and in turn, sues the team for racial discrimination when his work as head coach isn't up to par. Flores' record reflected other fired dolphins coaches and he was whacked. Not because of his race, but for not winning. In comes another HC, who moves the W-L's bar and Tua, with injuries improves. Tua is correct in his assessment about Flores.
Flores came in and said "Hey Grier see your 1st rd pick Minkah Fitzpatrick who had a great rookie season, I'm going to play him out of position, treat him like trash until he forces a trade. Then I'm going to do the same to Tua! When they make it to the Pro Bowl every year everybody will know how bad I screwed it all up and I will sue the NFL for RaCIsM because my black GM & Jewish owner were meanies and made my tampon hurt"
Make sure Tia gets his supply of soy milk !
What team do you play on again?
@@rustyshackleford8149 that’s a rich comment coming from someone using a characters name from a cartoon ! Back to the land of make believe and don’t forget your soy !
Tua's numbers are better, thanks Tyreek and Waddle, but the winning games production is the same.
Dan is like all the national media, never watched Tua play, just repeats what other say. Tua has never had a short passing game, he might this year with a great TE and RB to throw to for the first time, but that's never been his game. He has thrown down field and get little YAC.
Dan, you have to watch the games before commenting.
hope you're as hard on Lamar as you are on Tua
Does Dan not watch the Dolphins? Most of the 70 yard passes are 50+ in the air. The amount of air yards to Tyreek is insane. Just watch the 4th quarter from the Ravens comeback and you'll see.
He's been in the league for 4 years😂😂 let's give it some time before we say he can't win in the cold late in the season
Jimmy Johnson said it best if a bubble or average player fell asleep in a meeting there would be hell to pay. If Aikman yawned he'd offer to get him a pillow.
Can some please look at Brees and Manning in cold weather lmao they both need domes to win
I won’t lie to Dan you are getting cooked in the comments 😂😂
2:08 Dan cmon. This just isnt true. We all thought it would be crazy yac yards in Miami when Hill got there.
That isnt the case. Tua is throwing consistently deeper then anyone in the league the last 2 years.
Air yards per attempt, is a stat just as it sounds. The distance, in the air, the ball travels, from pass to completion. It entirely excludes yac yards. Nobody has a higher number then he does over the last 2 years. He is at the top or near the top of all passing metrics the last 2 years.
We all know he doesnt have an arm like Herbert or Mahomes, but you dont need one to throw a ball 60 yards. Hell, im almost twice these kids ages and i can still throw a ball a good 50 yards.
Having an arm like Herbert is great if your recievers dont get any seperation or have to constantly throw into tight windows, as far as depth though, you dont see 80 yard td throws from anyone. It just doesnt happen consistently enough to even acknowledge.
This notion that all he does is dink and dunk is objectively false, we literally have 2 years of data and film to show that.
Now, i dont believe Tua is good enough to will his team to a Superbowl. I have major questions when it comes to that and playoffs in general....but all these other knocks you guys still bring up? He has quite literally put them all to bed, they arent true
So you never watched a Dolphins game.
If what Tua says is true, that's not coaching that's verbal abuse. All I know about Brian Florez is it seems like he is not the friendliest, upbeat guy. He looks like he has a chip on his shoulder. He suec The NFL and still works for them, which I never understood. I saw McDaniel on The Show and he's a brilliant, positive, funny young man who loves his job. I believe that The Dolphins will win The AFC East. The Jets are overhyped and The Dolphins are quietly under the radar,
Tua father was harsh. He was handed to Flores by Nick Saban notorious for being a hardass. I dont think Tua problem is people being hard. It seemed that Flores wasnt just difficult, but potentially resented Tua given how well Herbert did. Saban was hard, but i dont think Tua ever got the sense from Saban that he was worthless.
Was Flores old school or Hate because he didn’t get the QB he wanted. Was he trying to sabotage Tua to confirm his choice or is his coaching style that tough…??? I understand Nick Saban is a tough old school coach and Tua loved him. How come Tua isn’t loving Flores’ tough old school coaching…unless it was HATE.
Tua is soft hence the nickname Poi Boi. What he did was classless.
Hi Dan, can I call you Dan, well Dan maybe if you bothered doing a modicum of research on the NFL you'd have noticed that Tua led the NFL in both passing yards and air yards last season.
Brian Flores never wanted Tua and doesn't understand offense at all. Thats why the offense was so bad. Its an offensive league and Flores had no clue
Just look at the Patriots recently after Josh McDaniels left. Belichick intentionally tried to ruin Mack Jones because he never wanted him(he wanted Davis Mills). WhatBelichick did to Mack Jones last year was so disgraceful, they wouldn't even talk the guy towards the end. He had a Defense coordinator Matt Patricia calling offensive plays. Belichick ruined his already tarnish legacy, he was a over glorified DC that benefited greatly from Brady and his OC's.
Good for Tua. Jerk boss is a jerk boss. Here is a guy Brian Flores who is suing the NFL and the Dolphins dropping confidential information. The get back is always worse.
Didn't Tua say his own father used to spank him if he lost a game, or made mistakes on the field.
Brian Flores isn't his father.
It would be really funny if the Texans won it all for the simple fact the cowboys wouldn't even be Texas' team, let alone America's team
Tua was 2nd in the league last season in completed air yards. (2,447) Only Dak had more. 3rd in the league in completed air yards per attempt. Tua threw for 4,624 yds. 2,447 of them were air yards, 2,177 were YAC. Mahomes threw for 4,183 yds. 1,631 were completed in the air. 2,552, or 61% of his total yards came from yac, compared to just 47% for Tua. Very far off Dan's clueless 91% assertion. One of the few places Tua drops out of the top 5 in stats, is actually yac per completion where he is 7th. Brock, Patrick, Russell, Matthew and Lamar all had their receivers avg more yac per completion than Tua. So, watch some tape and stop perpetuating false commentary.
Come on. what Flores was doing was verbal abuse not old style coaching.
McVay tree vs Bellichek tree
Tua lead the league in yards in the air. WTF is Dan talking about?
Chances are if you see miami score a 80 yard touchdown the ball is in the air for 40 of those yards god damn this dude doesn't know miami football
It's sad these pundits that keep bringing up 'Tua throws short passes and his recievers get the yac'. As soon as they say this I know that they don't watch film and just repeat narratives they've heard. Nor do they, at the very least, look at stats. Tua was at the top of the league in Air Yards Completed. Ahead of Love, Allen, Mahomes, Goff, Lawrence and Herbert. Do better Dan.
I still have not seen Hill score from a short pass. Almost all the time it gets stuffed. I like he the media likes to make shit up without proof.
Patrick I don’t know what football game you’re watching. Tua was 2nd in yards per pass. And had more 45 yard pass last season more then anyone in the league. Patrick I think you need to go back and watch all the games
Brother he had some of the best numbers in the league of passes of 40+ yards (that’s in the air) does this guy watch football? I don’t understand the hate. The point doesn’t exist… it’s been dead but they still keep beating that drum…
Dan doesn’t watch enough Tua to make that take. He sounds like a hater honesty.
Dan should learn something about football. before he comments about it.
I wonder if Nick Saban yelled at Tua? Also, did Flores yell and say negative things to Tua in front of his teammates or behind closed doors?
Both...including text messages at home.
@@TuatagaloaTeo Flores didn't deny it during his press conference.
Nick Saban embraced Tua and wanted him there. They had a great relationship. Flores wanted Jordan Love then tried to replace Tua with Deshaun Watson. All he saw was a small QB who was shorter than him.
Tua was second in air yards per attempt last year. Embarrassing demonstration on not knowing football
Why so quick to accept one side of the story? 😂😂😂
Dan Patrick is lazy broadcasting that spews out false information. He just regurgitates inaccurate narratives he hears from other people. Tua, I believe, was ranked 2nd in Yards Per Pass. If you are going to have a platform, use facts when it comes to stats.
Shut up Dan you’re completely wrong and don’t watch the dolphins. Tua is literally one of the best deep ball passers in the league and he’s been throwing bombs right in stride where Hill and Waddle don’t even get many yards after catch. Jeez do your homework, otherwise your podcast sucks
Flores was only hired as head coach because of dei and the rooney rule. He couldn't handle the responsibilities and clearly wasn't capable of doing the job.
Im a dolphins fan who thinks its clear that Tua has essentially a below average arm when it comes to driving the ball....but the narrative that he doesnt throw deep and all his stats are YAC yards by tyreek hill is lazy and inaccurate. Look at the plays, look at the advanced numbers. Its just stupid coming from someone who has paid people to fact check this shttt. And no....it's not a "sensitive" Tuanon perspective. Y'all just lazy and wrong.
Also....the players at ESPN this morning did a great job of scrapping the bullshttt off this false narrative about "tough love". Theres a broad difference between coaching hard and demeaning someone and quite literally telling someone theyre not good enough and you don't believe in them. To do the latter is coaching malpractice.
The terms of the conversation in this clip lie about the entire circumstance around Flores and MMD as well. Lazy times two.
The take was mediocre. Who cares if the dolphins 🐬 can’t win in cold climates. The point of the subject was that Flores was a jerk to him by demeaning him. That was supposed to be the topic.
2:11 STOP THIS FALSE NARRTIVE!! DAMN....... Tua is Top 5 in yards per attempt and yards per completion over the las 2 years with McDaniel's. Meaning? He throw deeper than 90% of the league! You know who had some of the lowest yardage throws at QB? Mahomes, Herbert, Allen ........ So stop feeding the massives false information.
What the?? What are they talking about? These guys are talking mumbo jumbo narratives😂 I know they're intelligent guys, and they're suppose to create intriguing media content but they're not athletes or coaches so.... I don’t know, these analysts and sports host who never played at a high level just don't get my respect when explaining how athletes and coaches should be.
Clearly Dan doesn’t watch football, spewing dumb internet dribble that’s inherently inaccurate
They don't like each other. So what. Tua said he made him feel bad. Good Lord what a wimp. This is a nothing story.
If Tua vould handle it he wouldn't be crying about it. Nice to have an excuse tho.
Two years in a row Tua has the highest passer rating on throws over 25 yards down field. Stop feeding into this bull$hit narrative that he only throws short passes. You KNOW it's not true!
Same thing with Tannehill. They said he was not accurate from deep and he was a better deep passer than Brady many seasons.
you may need to be a hardass on children and teens. once the players are being paid. they are professionals and should be treated as such.
think about any other job, if your boss was yelling and screaming, saying you suck. that boss would either get jumped after work or be out of a job for high turnover.
I’m a dolphins fan .
I like Tua, but I’d love a big-armed QB who can play in cold weather. Our team is so small. Tua throws a good ball . But when it’s cold and the speed is negated, he can’t throw a 7 or a post consistently.
No way the Bills are we’re supposed to win the division
Tua just has to be quick...
I know you are a smart man, but that is prob the dumbest thing Ive heard said when it comes to sports.
just has to be quick...
lol
He watches this boomer?!
very lazy take. no diligence taken at all. . tua is top five in air yard thrown, air yard completions, hill and waddle are middle of the pack in separation and yards after catch( YAC). it easy to do home work. we know you have a staff plus google is free. one easy you tua highlight real would have inform dan. just very lazy