TOYOTA TUNDRA CRANKS BUT NO START
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- Today I had a 2018 Toyota Tundra 5.7 pick up truck towed into my shop. The engine cranks and turns over but will not start or run. In this video I guide you through my diagnostic and troubleshooting procedures used to determine the problem with the vehicle. In this case the fuel pump was bad, but these procedures can also help determine other problems. Hopefully you find this video useful or at least find it entertaining!
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I sure appreciate your knowledge & methodical approach to diagnosing & solving the various problems that come your way, you’re a true master-technician.
Great video. I learned a good amount. This guy clearly knows his way around a vehicle.
You guys really deserve to be advanced level. Thank you.
I like the mystery behind every case study. A true professional mechanic finds the source of the problem and fixes the issue. A novas mechanic (No vas!) is just a parts replacer.
Excellent troubleshooting process ! Wouldn’t mind taking my cars in there for a check up🤙🏽
You're the best!! This trouble shooting process worked like magic. THANK YOU!!!!
Very enjoyable video , step by step trouble shooting , we need more intelligent young men like you.
Concise and very comprehensive video, good job.
Hard to imagine pump gone so soon. Things do break! Nice logical step by step diagnosis. Moment of truth start up always scary when doesn't fire up right away! Great video!
Yeah, I was second guessing myself for a moment there lol
@@ADVANCEDLEVELAUTO There is still wiring integrity to check that you didn't show. I know a lot of technicians would not do that final step because it is not usual for wire to break but assume there were rodents in there and could have nicked the wire or even a small internal corrosion. I have seen the craziest things with wires that have intermittent connections and ends up that they just have a string that is still making it work intermittently. I have seen this in modules and sliding door from minivans.
never drive with low fuel , fuel lubricates the fuel pump
@@ajeys7370 they claim it cools it too. So you always want the pump in fuel.
Excellent video. Very helpful troubleshooting my issue with my 2013 Sequioa.
You handled that pretty well. Great diag. Thanks for sharing 👍
Thank you!
Eric, really enjoyable to watch and excellent thought process and some time what i do to check pressure i hook a loop in state of pump fuse and read the amps on the amp meter so every one amp equal 10 psi so 5 amp = 50 psi cheeeeeers and thank you for sharing.
My bet is the owner run the fuel low very often . With out at least 1/4 tank of fuel the pump over heats .
Yep, that's one of the first things i learned on the car tech course i'm on that surprised me.
For years the myth was if you run a car low on fuel all the time you're dragging through lots of crap/sediment from the bottom of the tank through the system, but it's the fuel that cools the pump,ad lack of fuel overheats it, something i never knew before. :-)
robbocop33 r fuel filter catches the junk on low tanks as well
Yes i know, i always wonder why the low fuel/dirt in the tank causing the issue got so widespead
robbocop33 r people always throwing myths out because they can’t figured out the correct issue probably lol
Tundras are always low on fuel since they burn it so fast. The pump is a dud. Toyota has a low failure rate on their fuel pumps, but some do fail.
Great vid man! You're diagnosing skills are skills are supreme. Just subscribed hope to see more vids soon
Great diagnostic process walk through. I believe there was a recall recently on this year fuel pump on multiple models including tundra. Customer may be able to get reimbursed for labor and materials from Toyota.
This is a very good video highlighting the t-shooting process.
Always check and eliminate potential causes. Too many idiots i worked with would be too quick to assume its this or that without actually doing what you did.
Nice diagnostic video. Well done !
Excellent job of troubleshooting this sir.
Great walk through of your diagnostic technique. Need more mechanics like you. gauge on empty indicates that this truck has probably spend a lot of time on super low level. Still kind of crazy that at only 58k it needed a fuel pump. I guess they just don't make them like they use to.
great video on what steps to take and not just assume a bad pump from the start.
Thank you for this video. I have a 2007 Toyota Tundra 4.7 with 267k miles. My truck gave no symptoms for a failing fuel pump. I pulled the truck out of the driveway to work on my other vehicles. Then pulled it back into the driveway and let it keep running so I could add more freon to the ac. As soon has the hose was connected to the ac port, the truck shut off. Then it began to have a crank no start. Pulled out the fuses and relays, then placed them back in and truck started again. Then later drove it 10 miles and everything was fine. Then drove it the next day for another 10 miles and all was good. So then come Monday, drove the truck to get gas. Right when I drove up a small incline the truck shut off and it wouldn't start again. Had to tow it home. Replaced the fuses and rely and it didn't improve anything. So bought a new fuel pump from Rockauto. So after watching this video, I now feel confident about replacing the fuel pump. But I'm curious if it's important to wash out the gas tank before placing the new fuel pump in the tank? You didn't mention in your video about cleaning the gas tank.
Thank you for the video! I have a 2017 tundra and it's doing the same thing.
Great video! Lots of well detailed information 👍
Hey Thank you...this helps me a lot with how to proceed trouble shooting my Tundra👊👊
I just found you guys! What a great channel! You've gained a subscriber!
Thank you for the video. Very informative. Having the same problem.
probably burned out the pump by letting the fuel get to low ( fuel needed to lubricate the pump)
My thoughts exactly. Thanks for watching!
Dr Bruce stole my thunder!
@@bigdaddymak1439 I was going to say the same thing as well
@@elevatorman427 yeah running it out probably didn't kill it but cranking it over and over empty before sending it to the shop did
Gas keeps it cool. Never go below a quarter of gas
I enjoy to watch the video,that's a proper diagnose,, salute sir ,🎉
Excellent video! Fuel pumps have been a problem for all toyo/lexus vehicles since the introduction of their "flex fuel" models, even if you never use flex fuel. Something about the ECM measuring the alcohol content incorrectly and responding poorly with the pump ECU and fuel pump that results in struggled cold starts and hard shifts while warming up, and ultimately a dying fuel pump. They don't have a replacement part than the Delphi FE0707 currently, so I purchased an aftermarket aeromotive pump with higher flow capabilities that folks use when supercharging (haven't seen any with issues after upgrading). I'll be wiring it into the existing pump assembly this weekend and praying that makes this truck purr again.
Don't buy flex fuel models!!!!!!!!!
I have this same problem. Had the pump replaced and alcohol reset and 3 years later the ethanol was reading was back at 74%. Had to reset with techstream and right back to starting and running smooth as ever
Good mechanic straight to the point.
That damn chirp would drive me nuts lol Tell your customer to keep running with a low tank. He will be back for another pump.
Awesome video. I just had my fuel pump replaced in my lexus ls430 2001 after 300,000 miles.
great job at diagnosing!
This channel is gonna grow, you deliver excellent diagnostics, quality videos, thoughtful dialogue, and you don't waste viewers' time. I will work through past videos. My first thought was why not use a high amp bulb to check wiring with pump disconnected. Now that I think about it, if the pump was good your technique PROVES no line resistance, because otherwise there would have been a voltage drop on either the ground or voltage side. After all, assuming the pump is good, you were doing a drop test across the energized pump, electrons were flowing during the test. However if the pump was bad AND wiring was bad, then you might not see a drop. Two coincident problems are unlikely and you saved a step. It would have been interesting to see current but there isn't much room for satisfying curiosity in a working shop.
Thank you! Yes, I did what I could with the time I had and the fact that I could not gain access to the pump without dropping the tank. The module was doing it's job providing power and ground for the pump on command, so I felt comfortable calling a bad pump. Thanks for watching! btw I just subbed to your channel! I'm looking forward to checking it out!
Nice diagnosis
Tank you very clear and technically well presented thank you
Cool video. You really know your stuff. Very impressive. That was text book trouble shooting.
You`re very professional. Great work. : ]
I like your diag process thanks
Thank you for watching!
I appreciate your work
I'm a weekend mechanics, but from the first crank. Already knew has a bad Fuel pump. But still excellent diagnose to make sure it fuel pump.
Mota 0116 no you didn’t
clark garber ?
Bruh I said the same thing to myself. I understand having to take baby steps to be sure but I would have went straight to the pump.
Wow! That’s a big works!! But succeeds 👍👍👍
Very informative thanks for sharing. This is my job also.... I sea the video I learned something new.....
Just subscribed..looking forward to more informative videos. Thanks a lot brother
Really helpful vid. Helped diagnose pretty much the same problem without throwing parts at it. Thanks guys! Cheers
great video and awesome info. bro. Lots of respect from Pakistan!
Nice vid. Very informative. Thanks.
Owner probably ran his truck constantly with low fuel and just overheated that pump. Especially in hot 100 + weather. Keep some fuel in that tank. That goes for any Vehicle Manufacturer that uses an electric in tank pump
Raul Lazaro Fill up with a quarter left that’s what I do in my car I look at the quarter mark as empty that way my pump stays mostly covered in gas and it lasts longer. There’s not much to the pump it’ll last forever if you don’t run your tank low. Keep it above a quarter.
Ryan Scherbluk in cold climates and snowy areas never run your vehicle below 1/3 of a tank that way if you hit the ditch you can still idle for a while, for example a Subaru Outback can idle for 30 ish hours on a full tank of fuel before running out, that 30 plus hours buys you time
3:33 the tiny scan tool beep noise is so adorable AHAAHAHAHAHHAAHA
GOOD TEST PROCEDURE , NEXT TIME YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A JUG AT THE FUEL RAIL LINE TO CATCH ANY FUEL AND THANKS FOR THE VIDEO !
Yeah, but I was pretty sure that no fuel would come out after I disconnected the line and there was no residual pressure. Thanks for watching!
Interesting, Thanks for sharing.
Always go after the relay after the fuse, this tech knows his stuff. My 2021 tacoma also had a bad relay from week 2 of owning it, brand new relay had thick carbon buildup. Not a problem after I replaced it with the gray a/c relay and now it has 9000 miles on it. I think the blue relays are made cheap compared to the gray or purple. Don’t use the purple one tho it uses 140mA, gray/blue are 75mA.
Key on and no fuel pump priming sound, then it's a bad fuel pump.
Takes 2 seconds to diagnose. However a very good step by step assessment and very clear instructions.
Its always good to check relays and make sure it has power before dropping the tank.
You’d look like an idiot replacing a 300 dollar fuel pump when it turned out to be a bad relay.
One thing i learned doing this is never assume you know exactly what the problem is because you think you're a badass.
Great job !
Wow that sucks for the owner. No warranty. Awesome job finding out the problem.
Thanks!
So I just came across this video today. I’m sure you can guess why. It was around 9 am . I had this happen to my 2014 Toyota Tundra 1794 . She has 150,000, miles on the streets. It was not cheap 😢. I told the shop yeah .let’s get it running. Thanks for this video
Gracias por video camarada muy buen video
thank you good job eric
Great job
Similar problem with my 2004 Toyota Tacoma 4X4 4 cylinder, automatic. I'm the original owner. 70,000 miles. Well maintained all by me and garage kept. Looks and runs like new. Full tank. For the third time, it won't start. Really strange since it's the only time I have ever heard it crank since as soon as you hit the key, it starts.
The first time, it made just a little microsecond like it was starting and then just cranking like crazy. Three or four tries. No deal. Figure I must have flooded it. Came back later and it started.
This was couple years ago. Now it has done it twice more. Once warm and I had turned it off not 10 minutes picking up a few items. It started on the 4th try. A few days later, cold, did it again and it would not start after a few tries. Cranking like crazy. (Good Max Everstart battery)
Checked for codes with blue reader. One on rear heated oxygen sensor stored (Only mechanical repair I have ever made and that was due to the heater burnt out on that oxygen sensor.) No other codes. Cleared it. The truck started after the reader ran and did not repeat the code.
I swapped the power outlet relay with the same EFI relay in the engine compartment after I checked both relays. I added a grounded spark plug on top of the valve cover so I can pull the number one coil pack off the engine spark plug to check for spark next time.
Note on the vehicle that there is no fuel pump timer to charge up fuel pressure like some cars. What is even worst is you can't even hear fuel pump with a full tank. The EFI relay drives the Circuit opening relay in crank mode. Once running, the ECM sees that from the crank position sensor and then grounds the coil on the circuit opening relay in the on position then and only then.
I checked the circuit open relay under the dash that is power by the ECM. Even jumped it there and that is when I realized you cannot hear the pump as a check. I did attach a wire to the relay tank wire side. Now I can attach my meter to that and ground. I can key on and see no voltage. Crank and it becomes 12.7 or so. Starts and let off starter at key on and see the 14.2 or so running motor charge.
What is my problem? It's so hard to catch. By my self. The 70,000 is 95% city. Has all the red lights in the city actually put 200,000 miles on fuel pump and it's brush is almost worn out and occasionally pump is not running? Is it the ignition switch? Both these are a pain to just guess at. Has original filter tucked up under intake runners on it. I have a replacement. I don't think it's that since it runs like new all the rest of the time.
Thoughts. Biggest problem is I just don't trust it at my age.
Watching from NEW ZEALAND bro
This video is detailed and explanatory, I like it. Thanks. Is there a way to know from the odometer if the fuel pump is defective when the key is turned on just to avoid the detailed and long process test and diagnosis. I have a 2006 Toyota Highlander that is doing the exact same thing that this Tundra is doing. Hope I can get a clue from you to get it fixed.
Excellent video.
You are wonderful man👌.
fANTASTIC, WELL DONE
Good repair video 👍🏼
Very informative . And good
Good tundra doctor!
wow dude this was a damm good video
Thanks man! I truly appreciate it.
WELL DONE 👍 👍
Thank you!
My first time on your channel. I thank you for all your info on this Toyota. I have a 1996 Toyota 4 runner that may have this issue. It isn't turning over when I turn the key. Might be the fuel pump but I know it was replaced. Thank you for all the info. Thumbs up on your video. After doing some checking i will give feedback on my vehicle.
U find you problem I have similar problem on my 2004 Tacoma can u check my video
Great video
Oh snap. Didnt realize you guys are in Houston. My shop is in Spring / Tomball / Woodlands area.
Wow!! 2018!! Dang! That was a bit unexpected honestly. But it was all confirmed in the end...
Excelente video! Un placer ver su proceso diagnóstico! 😊😊👍👍
Gracias!
Awesome video!!!
I hope your wife and kids were not hurt in the accident? love your show! entertaining and educational.....
I live in Dallas. And I had enough this year of the heat. The humidity today was brutal... 1 more week...And running vehicles low on gas to many times will burn them pumps out quick..
I'm still waiting for the outside temps to drop. It's killing us at the shop here lol
How much cash did he have to Shell out for that pump ? My 07 toy Camry fuel pump ( non California emissions built in Kentucky ) is 700 dollars for it
@@nightfangs2910 I can tell you this. The Ford E-250 cost $350.00 at the dealer. Then $200.00 for me to replace them. As the owner of catering shop has replace his 4 times. As his employees run out of gas all the time. And it only takes 2-3 times and they will say good bye! Least it's empty when I have to drop the tank. Takes me 30 mins to change it now.
Man, dont say that. I just moved to Dallas 4 weeks ago and so far the weather's been amazing. But, I know it's coming. However, I came from the swamp in Louisiana and there's NO WAY you guys have that kind of humidity. Not even close.
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Sometimes drivers do cause.some car problems by going beyond limit. Nice job man.
excellent video thanks
Thank you!
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 nice job
Very good video, super interesting
Thank you Eric. Good job. Have a blessed and safe week.
Same here. Thank you for watching!
Love love you videos from uk.
Thank you for watching!
Very nicely done Eric 👍. Pop back in chat when you get a chance
Will do! Thanks for watching!
Good vid guys !
I have a 2015 Tundra SR5 double cab with the 5.7 litre Trd off road package with about 55 thousand miles and so far no issues other than having a rear seatbelt repositioned because it would get sucked into the seat when lowering or raising seat. I am curious does this truck not still have the bumper to bumper warranty. Good video of explaining your process of elimination.
I run my tundra to gas light often have 108k on it and it's still perfect. The fuel sender holds fuel in a basin for cooling the pump that's always there even if you run the tank completely empty. I'd say just a faulty pump it happens sometimes with mass produced products some last forever some just go bad 🤷♂️
Good job
Great video....
Thank you
good work
Post mortem bench test/analysis of old fuel pump would be interesting. What exactly failed within the pump assembly?
Mechanics makes great money
The fuel also acts as a coolant for the pump, so don't let the fuel level get too low.
Starting to like your channel
Thank you!
Good video
good job.
Great video brother! Just subscribed.
Thank you for watching!
Thank you ❤
Hey Eric, thanks for another great video. I was just wondering... When u were checking the blue and red wires on that fuel pump module, the powerprobe showed a constant red light on the blue wire but a flashing red light on the red wire - what does flashing red light like that mean please? Thanks
Hey Erick. What software or website do you use to pull the diagrams? Thanks