@Rhizome that last firefight will easily take 40 minutes. Like if you do everything perfect. My next goal will probably be do all other missions under 2 hours because I don't foresee beating that firefight area in under an hour.
@Rhizome that's probably not possible for me. I'm good but I'm not that good. I feel like I could do better on exodus but idk. That's a hard mission too. Especially when you die to RNG on that stupid falcon. Then have to sit through 3 minutes of blah blah blah again.
@Rhizome if I could do this mission exactly like him I'd have the achievement. It took me an hour and a half to do this mission. And I wasn't speed running.
For those struggling like me with the MAC cannon jump, I just realized (after several wasted minutes) you can practice it consequence free on Firefight. Map: Holdout; setup, something like Gruntpocalypse on Easy so they don't interfere. Give yourself a conc rifle and infinite ammo, make yourself invulnerable to damage, and the jump with railing and pipes is the same as the campaign map. Saved me a lot of time; i can just practice until I get it right and then switch right over!
yes, had me confused at first but its all about the timing of the first jump and shot. they have to be done at about the same time. i can now do it successfully much more often than i mess up but i just know ill choke outside of practice
Had to run this mission like 15 times, got some TERRIBLE RNG. Finally got just over par time and now got the achievement thanks to buffer. Mine too made me quit and load noble actual back up and then achievement popped. The amount of RNG in this version of the campaign (MCC vs. Original) is unbelievable. Almost pulled my hair out trying to get this achievement, but finally did it. Thanks man!
@@BalkanGames it can, /s... not hard at all, people are just dumb. Then lash out because their inability to convey basic information is not cured when they get up from the computer. in fact, the likelihood is that they suck at conveying sarcasm in real life as well, and it's probably cost them friendships. All because they could not grasp the basic concept of how to be sarcastic. You could even rely on hyperbolic reactions, i.e; "FINALLY! That's what the noob combo is! I **cannot** believe it's taken this long. LMAO"
When you jump through the window after the Hunter area, I found that by not touching the door and simply running to where the elite is, he's just standing there so you can easily backsmack him.
Thanks man, literally just got this achievement. Your guides really helped me crunch time on levels I was struggling with. Your guide was so amazing for the POA, I actually managed all your tricks and got in just over 19 minutes.
Honestly, I knew I didn't have the skill to pull off a couple of those tricks, but I took some of the easier shortcuts and got by with 34:18, bringing my campaign total just about 10 minutes inside the 3 hour requirement. (I swear this was easier back on the 360, but then again, that was 11 years ago and I'm not getting any younger.) Thanks for another solid guide, Silver!
Holy fuck. Thanks to this guide I managed to complete the mission in... 19:58. I still can't believe it. That bubble shield strat was some 3000 iq shit. Once I managed to get it down it was all super easy. Your "Package" guide also helped me to complete the mission in par time (19:48). The wraith strat was super helpful. Thanks for your guides, I really appreciate them.
Just got the achievement. It was a little finicky - the game didn't even record my first completion on Legendary, and after I did it a second time (8 seconds above par time, darn it!) I had to go through the prologue again for it to trigger, but I got it! And I did it all by watching your videos. Thank you so very much for your help!
Thanks for sharing to relaunch the game if the achievement don’t pop. Officially I’ve completed every Halo speed run & Laso in TMCC and all thank to you, Silver.
ICYDK......just figured this out myself. When doing these timed runs in MCC Reach you can dashboard/quit the game if you die or make a mistake so you don't lose time. Just restart/resume and you'll continue from the last checkpoint....no time gone. I'm sure many know this but it's now helping me.
A few tips for others who may be struggling with the jumps. the jump to avoid the buggers can be done with 1 concussion round. You will want to save as many as possible since later on, you will need several to get to the MAC turret. Inside the hanger thing where he says to do the "candy cane jump" I couldn't get it to work so I used 1 concussion round for each jump which is another reason, you should save them. For the actual part where you jump to the MAC turret, you can go to the bottom of the railing and jump and shoot at the same time. it takes 4 shots but is much easier in my opinion. Hopefully, this helps out!
Thanks for mentioning the bit about touching the door to fix that loading zone. I followed another guide that just said you had to shoot the window before getting into the room, but that only worked once for me. Maybe it was just a coincidence but touching the door on another attempt fixed everything. Thank you!
Just practice, count out how long you should wait for the jump. It's seriously not hard. If these 'tricks' are stumping you, you will never get anywhere in speedrunning.
Thank you for this guide, I was finally able to get my time down to 2:58:22. It's incredible how fast you can finish this game with these speedrun techniques. Guess it's time to think about SLASO now!
I spend almost 1h trying the trick with the bubbleshield as described in this video but couldnt get it to work. In the end i managed to do it the "regular way" after watching the video from Proacejoker. He goes over it in a bit more depth. Maybe it helps u guys aswell. Here is the link: ua-cam.com/video/h1fTDM1uYRk/v-deo.html . It starts around the 2:29:50 mark.
Finally got it! Would never have happened without this series. Combining your techniques with Pedro’s techniques gave me my best run. (Mainly driving through the entire scarab skirmish, and immediately concussion rifling up into the rafters off the yellow rail, instead of dropping below and climbing those pipes)
Great guide bro! I had a lot of trouble at first with the concussion jump to MAC gun. Then after several failed attempts I realized it was easier for me to just stand and shoot instead of crouching jumping and shooting.
Finally, god damn. My playlist bugged out like 500 times and I couldn't continue the missions for days or weeks at a time (I do all the leg. speedrun achievements with the leg. playlists), but now I finally got it. With 2-3 minutes left on the timer, so roughly 2:57:30.
Thanks again Silver! Came in at 3:01:47 on my first speed run so I'm going back to shave a couple mins off Exodus. The cheevo will be mine in no time! On to H3 next!
Little tip: if you get lucky with concussion rifle ammo you can use it instead of the nade jump, it’s a little faster, easier, and less risky. You can also use it to do the jumps up to the catwalk
I suspect the reason the DMR rack is not always there in the firefight section is because of the increased FPS from 30 fps to 60 fps (and above on PC). I think its because of the physics getting more unstable the higher the FPS goes (because the Halo games are usually with the FPS tied to the Physics) since the rack spawns and its colliding with the wall as another object in the building, is probably flying out at a much more farther distance than before down into the void. Like for example sometimes when you try going through a small narrow window you have to crouch through, it can punch you back if its above the 30 fps it was originally built for (like where the Hunter section was).
Damn, ran it super well for my first shot (got the jumps really fast, I am proud). but ended up at 28:38. I lost a bunch of time at the end, I know that much. But I actually feel really positive about that run. Thanks, Silver. I ended up with a total campaign time of 3:03:44. LNOS went massively over par and I really, really doubt I'll be able to improve that 45 minutes... I reckon I know some other places I might be able to work it down
Damn. If I could play exactly how he played in the video I'd have the achievement Because my best time on this mission is an hour and a half and if I shaved an hour and 5 minutes off I'd be done.
@@SerLagsalot not yet. For a second I thought it was pillar of autumn halo CE and I was like how the hell did that take an hour and a half. But halo reach yeah that's hard.
It used to be there on MCC that's how I did this stupid mission on legendary solo. 343 probably fucked something up or said no more dmrs the fight is too easy with them
That jump to get up to the Mack gun for the last section is incredibly difficult. It would be nice if you would explain those jumps in a bit more micro detail.
If you're still struggling, see my other comment; basically you can set it up in Firefight and practice consequence-free without worrying about losing time!
Go to the bottom of the railing and aim straight down. Shoot and jump at the same time while running forward. Keep running forward and as u shoot ur 4th shot move right. U will also need to shoot the concussion rifle as fast as u can so make sure to mash that trigger. This is if u decide to do it without the shield. U would go to the bottom of that same railing and pretty much scale the wall that the pipe comes out of. I don’t recommend the shield it wastes to much time and it’s riskier 6:15
I spend 20 whole minutes struggling with the pipe jump. I quit and restarted with the skull got 2x explosions. The whole mission and 10 minutes of struggling later I FINALLY made the jump...and then fell off. On my way to buy a new controller currently.
For the MAC concussion rifle jump don't crouch, jump and shoot at the same time. Thank you silver! I finished the achievement with 40 seconds to spair. Now i have (goat roped , and Pedrogas)
Took a little practice but finally did it with this! I Used crouch to make sure the concussion rifle is aimed at the top of the railing, then stand, then jump and shoot at the same time, two more shot and im up way more consistantly!
I finally got the achievement after finishing the mission. For those jumps (2nd and 3rd one) I just used the concussion rifle which made it really easy. On that run I was taking too long though so I watched Pedrogas' video and it gave a somewhat easier and faster way to get up onto the catwalk with two concussion rifle shots. Both of these guides helped me a lot though! :) Now just to mop up the last few achievements for Reach then onto LASO at long last!
IF YOUR ACHIEVEMENT WON'T POP! most of the speedruns, people tend to forget that you need to play the cinematic missions at the beginning and end of the campaign. lone wolf also counts for this even though it is not entirely cinematic. lone wolf also has a timer and records that time on halo waypoint. for your first time, start lone wolf on legendary and then try to die as quick as possible. then, watch noble actual, epilogue, and play lone wolf again.
Just to mention on hitting those hard crouch jumps - Sometimes the game is finicky (in my experience) and won't always register the crouch (or simply crouch for an instant and then "stand back up" again). I do a claw grip on the controller (my crouch and jump are mapped b and a) and I HOLD the crouch button right after jumping. I'm much more consistent in landing my jumps this way. Hope this helps someone!
Thank you for this guide. It was intense, but not nearly as intense as a true speed runner like Pedrogas himself. I was able to get under 3 hours between my solo run following this guide (for Solo Legendary) and my cooperative run with friends.
Thanks my man, a great series of videos throughout. I gave myself some leeway and tried to stay within a few minutes of your times. Avoided having to replay LNOS entirely (phew!)
I think I saw someone comment this already, but couldn't find it. But for the Mac cannon jump, change your crouch setting from toggle to hold and you'll find it alot easier. Once I did that it only took me 2-3 tries and then I was getting it more consistently. 👍
For the jumping at 3:36 its much easier to use the same crouch-jump launch technique you use for reaching the mac gun. just launch yourself backwards onto the ledge. much easier and more reliable for me anyway. takes 2 shots
Wow I’ve never been killed in the last moment when you get in Mac cannon until now. As soon I got in - i got Banshee bombed. And just now I learned that dropshield heals you and whoever’s inside. Btw thanks for the guide! I got the achievement. Only mission I skipped was Long Night of Solace.
I find the easiest and most constant way to do the concussion launch is to run down the near the end of the rail, jump and quickly fire downwards at the rail and then the wall a few times. Jump just before before firing. No need to carry the drop shield into that battle.
7:03 the elites never leave in any of my runs, sometimes I get lucky and they move just enough to the left that I can nade run and bubble away from them. Its one of the major run enders for me. The second really big one is when your're at the mac cannon and enemies decide to move to the rock far up the left and stay there forcing you to jump down. Then they ofc immediately rush you... Last run I didnt get a DMR (probably fell off a cliff. No friendlies spawned and I had a marker way back in the map. Mission still worked, just became a lot harder so I got a 30 second decrease in time 🤣
How'd he get a concussion rifle? Every time I kill the elite with it the gun just vanishes. Maybe it's falling though the floor or ground. MCC and stupid glitches
This is hell, its two rng sections followed by waking a tightrope (that gate is so hard for me and idk why) and then a concussion jump and a grenade jump. Idk whats after that yet because i made it all the way to the grenade jump only to die and be sent back to the concussion jump.
Just my luck, all the jackals on the bottom floor of 9:40 all had needler lol no plasma pistol lmao, so I had to use needler to take out the camo elite and the other elite and then head shot em, the other elite uses armor lock so that was a pain.
Just got the legendary solo achievement yesterday, but i found that the jump to avoid the buggers was easier to do jumping backwards, with 2 blasts. if you do it the way Silver did it, you're pushing yourself up and potentially back. Jumping backwards i did it in 2 shots of the concussion blast, not worrying too much about looking all the way down. I crouched during the second blast and got up smoothly. I tried going forward, but i tried 6 times and i couldn't do it. Hope this helps someone.
I found out that at 16:13 when you grenade jump that wall you can instead crouch jump onto the structure that's there and then jump across the gap over the wall
i am at the section where the hunters despawned and trying to get through the window, broke the window and i do manage to get onto the window ledge but i cannot get through, what am i missing here?......lol nvrmind after typing i just fell through
The jumps at 6:46 I couldn't do no matter how hard I tried. Tried switching settings but couldn't do it no matter what after 20 min of trying. I'm playing Kb & Mouse so I tried it with xbox controller. I could surprisingly do it then with a few tries, not easy but it was at least possible. If I spam jump on keyboard against the first object head-on before jumping to the ledge I can't get up but on controller I can just keep spamming a and I get up consistently and fast. Also if I get hit by enemy concussion rifle when on the pipe I fly up with controller but not with KB & mouse which is really strange. Managed to do exactly like the video after the first cutscene but the enemies didn't despawn. Will have to give it a another shot. The series is really helpful but after the space map there are simply too many things I can't get right even once that I will have to skip going under 3h.
I've found the last jump is more consistent if you use the drop shield a little lower on the railing. It makes hitting the second shot easier. Other than that issue your guide works perfectly. I was on pace to beat your time by 30 seconds but then for some f*cking reason the cruiser took almost a full minute longer to get in position than it did for you, so I missed par time by about 30 seconds. So, so angry about that, but I still got the pedrogas achievement.
I’ve done all missions on legendary with the catch skull on and my overall time is 171.38 minutes. But nothing popped. Isn’t the achievement within 180 minutes? Do I have to do it all in one go in order too? I just hopped around tidying up my times for some missions
If you have some more ammo left for the Concussion rifle, could you skip the last fight with the elites to get to the MAC cannon? Just like in 11:05, or killing elites is an requirement for the next objective?
Idk what happened to my first reply, only see my 2nd one....first reply mentioned that the fuel rod elite likes to shoot at you and can even kill you when you're in the mac gun so you'll want to at least take him out.
@@HaloCompletionist Took few tries but I managed to do that, but yea, it's safer to take down the elite with fuel rod at least, since you can get nuked right after getting onto cannon, lost few minutes there. Anyway thanks for the awesome guides!
I'm probably going to have to restart as even with full needle rifle I only killed maybe 10 or 12 enemies. They kept armor locking or doing that stupid roll thing
Do i need to do them all in order or is it like Combined time from all of them just needs to be under 3 hrs. Also if i "restart" a mission does that actually refresh my Clock or will it not count.
bit of a late reply, but if you restart the mission it refreshes your clock, you can do any mission in any order, and replay it time and time again, every halo game in MCC will add up your best time from EACH LEVEL, so example and estimate of 10-20 minutes per mission there is 12 missions total 20 minutes x 12 = 4 hours, so 10 minutes per mission and well.. im sure you might get the point
[TLDR] Your guides could use more in-depth looks at trick jumps, alternative guides if trick jumps can't easily be done, or just less trick jumps and more straightforward guides. To be honest, your Speedrun Guides could do with a little more work if you're going to do series of grenade/explosive jumps. Slowing down the video doesn't help if it's hard to know what I'm looking at. And there are going to be people who cannot make this jumps and you don't seem to give them an alternative. You show these tricks at your first (few) attempts making the jumps seem very easy. When in reality I screwed my entire speedrun because I couldn't crouch jump through a window. I mean no hate, you are doing a good job in giving comprehensive guides for some of the toughest challenges in MCC across all games whereas the pros have yet to do guides for CE and H2 LASO's.
stuff takes practice my guy. Just because you're learning how to complete the game quickly, don't be fooled into thinking that you're going to spend little to no time practicing. I have 40+ hrs in the campaign alone trying to complete it as fast as possible, as consistently as possible. That's not including the hours I spend watching and taking notes of other speedrunners' strategies.
@@fancypig I've made a note pad that I'm constantly improving on a lot of strats extracted and refined from several speedruns and guides. I'll be happy to share it with you !
(Solved) So I just played through all missions (including beginning and epilogue) and ended up with a total of 166 minutes but I didn't get the achievement. I did this through the "missions" spot. Do I have to redo this in the Legendary Playlist, or is there something I can do to kick start it without having to play the entire thing over again? Edit: I should specify, I did have on the competitive time, but did not have any skulls on, and played in one sitting from Noble Actual to Lone Wolf Solution: even though I completed it in Missions, it seems firing up the Legendary Campaign out of the Playlist section caused it to kick in
For the extra DMR ammo, you can actually melee the wall from outside the building around back as well. I didn't know you could do it from inside as well. On the 360 version though. I'm not sure about MCC
For anyone else having trouble with this, I ended up just writing a macro to do the jump for me, then sitting there and tuning the values on the macro until it works every time. Now It's just a one button jump whenever I run this. Maybe it's cheating, but I spent hours on it and only got it naturally like 5 or 6 times.
@@kylebybee5909 Great way to go above the frustration imo. The original skips involves concution jumps again the wall to get up and it's even harder in my opinion. Concution jump is a hard technique to master or even succeed properly. You just need to practice it from time to time and it will come one day !
Yes. The achievement does indeed take your best time one the missions, so if you just record par time on legendary on every mission (without necessarely doing it via the playist nor playing missions on the right order) you 'll get the achievement
So i needed to do this mission in 29 minutes yo get the achievement. I did it in 31 because of the stupid mac gun. Hopped in to hit the cruiser and died before I could even get the shot off. Spent 2 minutes there doing that...
OK never mind, I started camping and achievement showed up. Thanks a lot for this Silver, I only have to complete this mission in laso to complete TMCC!!
You what would be worse than doing pillar of autumn halo reach Truth and reconciliation halo CE Halo 2 in general Cortana in halo 3 And midnight in halo 4 Is to have to do them on LASO within 3 hours. Beat par time on every mission on LASO. I don't think even silver here could do that.
I got to the gun in 15 minutes and thought it was going to be a good run but then spent another 30min to complete which finished with 45.15 why my best is 41 .20 man this is annoying
That’s 110 minutes faster than me.
@Rhizome that last firefight will easily take 40 minutes. Like if you do everything perfect. My next goal will probably be do all other missions under 2 hours because I don't foresee beating that firefight area in under an hour.
@Rhizome that's probably not possible for me. I'm good but I'm not that good. I feel like I could do better on exodus but idk. That's a hard mission too. Especially when you die to RNG on that stupid falcon. Then have to sit through 3 minutes of blah blah blah again.
@Rhizome if I could do this mission exactly like him I'd have the achievement. It took me an hour and a half to do this mission. And I wasn't speed running.
hit 28 minutes and that was good enough for achievement: did part time on normal >< lol
For those struggling like me with the MAC cannon jump, I just realized (after several wasted minutes) you can practice it consequence free on Firefight. Map: Holdout; setup, something like Gruntpocalypse on Easy so they don't interfere. Give yourself a conc rifle and infinite ammo, make yourself invulnerable to damage, and the jump with railing and pipes is the same as the campaign map. Saved me a lot of time; i can just practice until I get it right and then switch right over!
Good suggestion, I didn't think of that!
Good idea. That part had me restarting quite a bit.
yes, had me confused at first but its all about the timing of the first jump and shot. they have to be done at about the same time. i can now do it successfully much more often than i mess up but i just know ill choke outside of practice
@@laytonsilz8576 Then stop being a fat boy
You're the only person who can survive knocking himself down to 0 hp.
I have multiple times
It's not that hard 😂
I would just like to say, all of your videos have been extremely helpful for me and I appreciate you.
Seriously bro, you're legendary. Thanks for the awesome series.
i know this vid is 4 years old, but thank u so much man, got the achievement a couple minutes ago!! Thx again!
Jumping through the window was the hardest part lol
Your funny buddy
Had to run this mission like 15 times, got some TERRIBLE RNG. Finally got just over par time and now got the achievement thanks to buffer. Mine too made me quit and load noble actual back up and then achievement popped.
The amount of RNG in this version of the campaign (MCC vs. Original) is unbelievable. Almost pulled my hair out trying to get this achievement, but finally did it. Thanks man!
Man I was always wondering what the "noob combo" is, glad he explained it this episode!
Nykz He actually explains it in almost every episode.
That’s the joke genius
Tristin Aries I'll just r/woosh myself then. Not my fault though as sarcasm can't be conveyed that easily in written form.
@@BalkanGames it can, /s... not hard at all, people are just dumb. Then lash out because their inability to convey basic information is not cured when they get up from the computer. in fact, the likelihood is that they suck at conveying sarcasm in real life as well, and it's probably cost them friendships. All because they could not grasp the basic concept of how to be sarcastic.
You could even rely on hyperbolic reactions, i.e; "FINALLY! That's what the noob combo is! I **cannot** believe it's taken this long. LMAO"
lol
When you jump through the window after the Hunter area, I found that by not touching the door and simply running to where the elite is, he's just standing there so you can easily backsmack him.
Thanks man, literally just got this achievement. Your guides really helped me crunch time on levels I was struggling with.
Your guide was so amazing for the POA, I actually managed all your tricks and got in just over 19 minutes.
Honestly, I knew I didn't have the skill to pull off a couple of those tricks, but I took some of the easier shortcuts and got by with 34:18, bringing my campaign total just about 10 minutes inside the 3 hour requirement. (I swear this was easier back on the 360, but then again, that was 11 years ago and I'm not getting any younger.) Thanks for another solid guide, Silver!
Holy fuck. Thanks to this guide I managed to complete the mission in... 19:58. I still can't believe it. That bubble shield strat was some 3000 iq shit. Once I managed to get it down it was all super easy.
Your "Package" guide also helped me to complete the mission in par time (19:48). The wraith strat was super helpful.
Thanks for your guides, I really appreciate them.
Just got the achievement. It was a little finicky - the game didn't even record my first completion on Legendary, and after I did it a second time (8 seconds above par time, darn it!) I had to go through the prologue again for it to trigger, but I got it! And I did it all by watching your videos. Thank you so very much for your help!
Thanks for sharing to relaunch the game if the achievement don’t pop. Officially I’ve completed every Halo speed run & Laso in TMCC and all thank to you, Silver.
ICYDK......just figured this out myself. When doing these timed runs in MCC Reach you can dashboard/quit the game if you die or make a mistake so you don't lose time. Just restart/resume and you'll continue from the last checkpoint....no time gone. I'm sure many know this but it's now helping me.
Wow. I wish I knew this when I was playing on New Alexandria and Exodus.
Works on pc too but only through the use of task manager
Just as you said, I quit, relaunched and started the campaign, and it popped.
Thanks a lot for your guides, Silver
A few tips for others who may be struggling with the jumps. the jump to avoid the buggers can be done with 1 concussion round. You will want to save as many as possible since later on, you will need several to get to the MAC turret. Inside the hanger thing where he says to do the "candy cane jump" I couldn't get it to work so I used 1 concussion round for each jump which is another reason, you should save them. For the actual part where you jump to the MAC turret, you can go to the bottom of the railing and jump and shoot at the same time. it takes 4 shots but is much easier in my opinion. Hopefully, this helps out!
Thanks for mentioning the bit about touching the door to fix that loading zone. I followed another guide that just said you had to shoot the window before getting into the room, but that only worked once for me. Maybe it was just a coincidence but touching the door on another attempt fixed everything. Thank you!
There’s about 3 different jumps in this guide I literally cannot do. Guess I’m not getting this achievement :(
6:48 for those two jumps did you try grenade jumping? I used that technique for LASO and it worked. (Did it on PC)
You can also do it with the concussion rifle if you have enough ammo left
Just practice, count out how long you should wait for the jump. It's seriously not hard.
If these 'tricks' are stumping you, you will never get anywhere in speedrunning.
Pickle a Day Keeps the Doctor Away No need to be rude about it my guy
Try it with the option to crouch while holding
Thank you for this guide, I was finally able to get my time down to 2:58:22. It's incredible how fast you can finish this game with these speedrun techniques. Guess it's time to think about SLASO now!
I spend almost 1h trying the trick with the bubbleshield as described in this video but couldnt get it to work. In the end i managed to do it the "regular way" after watching the video from Proacejoker. He goes over it in a bit more depth. Maybe it helps u guys aswell. Here is the link: ua-cam.com/video/h1fTDM1uYRk/v-deo.html . It starts around the 2:29:50 mark.
Finally got it! Would never have happened without this series. Combining your techniques with Pedro’s techniques gave me my best run. (Mainly driving through the entire scarab skirmish, and immediately concussion rifling up into the rafters off the yellow rail, instead of dropping below and climbing those pipes)
Great guide bro!
I had a lot of trouble at first with the concussion jump to MAC gun. Then after several failed attempts I realized it was easier for me to just stand and shoot instead of crouching jumping and shooting.
Finally, god damn. My playlist bugged out like 500 times and I couldn't continue the missions for days or weeks at a time (I do all the leg. speedrun achievements with the leg. playlists), but now I finally got it. With 2-3 minutes left on the timer, so roughly 2:57:30.
I did it!
I got the achievement and the nameplate of Planet Reach that required to beat the game under 3 hours!
Thank you very much for this guide!
Thanks again Silver! Came in at 3:01:47 on my first speed run so I'm going back to shave a couple mins off Exodus. The cheevo will be mine in no time! On to H3 next!
"You're gonna grab the nearest Mongoose"
*grabs the furthest Mongoose*
In all seriousness though, great videos. Very helpful for the achievement.
Using these guides I clocked in at 2 hours and 25 minutes, great help thanks very much for these.
Today I did it with your help I got the achievement! I plan on doing a stream to try and do all of it in one sitting next thank you for the guide.
Little tip: if you get lucky with concussion rifle ammo you can use it instead of the nade jump, it’s a little faster, easier, and less risky. You can also use it to do the jumps up to the catwalk
I suspect the reason the DMR rack is not always there in the firefight section is because of the increased FPS from 30 fps to 60 fps (and above on PC). I think its because of the physics getting more unstable the higher the FPS goes (because the Halo games are usually with the FPS tied to the Physics) since the rack spawns and its colliding with the wall as another object in the building, is probably flying out at a much more farther distance than before down into the void. Like for example sometimes when you try going through a small narrow window you have to crouch through, it can punch you back if its above the 30 fps it was originally built for (like where the Hunter section was).
Oh i thought the game just liked making it harder.
Got this achievement it was surprisingly fun just 14 more left and I will have all of them thank you for your guides.
Nice series Silver, I havn't come across your videos before but your strategies, commentary and video quality are very good!
Damn, ran it super well for my first shot (got the jumps really fast, I am proud). but ended up at 28:38. I lost a bunch of time at the end, I know that much.
But I actually feel really positive about that run. Thanks, Silver.
I ended up with a total campaign time of 3:03:44. LNOS went massively over par and I really, really doubt I'll be able to improve that 45 minutes... I reckon I know some other places I might be able to work it down
Damn. If I could play exactly how he played in the video I'd have the achievement Because my best time on this mission is an hour and a half and if I shaved an hour and 5 minutes off I'd be done.
@@ashtonmccloud1161 Well hope you got it
@@SerLagsalot not yet. For a second I thought it was pillar of autumn halo CE and I was like how the hell did that take an hour and a half. But halo reach yeah that's hard.
2021 update:
DMR crate is still glitched.
It used to be there on MCC that's how I did this stupid mission on legendary solo. 343 probably fucked something up or said no more dmrs the fight is too easy with them
That jump to get up to the Mack gun for the last section is incredibly difficult. It would be nice if you would explain those jumps in a bit more micro detail.
If you're still struggling, see my other comment; basically you can set it up in Firefight and practice consequence-free without worrying about losing time!
Go to the bottom of the railing and aim straight down. Shoot and jump at the same time while running forward. Keep running forward and as u shoot ur 4th shot move right. U will also need to shoot the concussion rifle as fast as u can so make sure to mash that trigger. This is if u decide to do it without the shield. U would go to the bottom of that same railing and pretty much scale the wall that the pipe comes out of. I don’t recommend the shield it wastes to much time and it’s riskier 6:15
I spend 20 whole minutes struggling with the pipe jump. I quit and restarted with the skull got 2x explosions. The whole mission and 10 minutes of struggling later I FINALLY made the jump...and then fell off. On my way to buy a new controller currently.
For the MAC concussion rifle jump don't crouch, jump and shoot at the same time. Thank you silver! I finished the achievement with 40 seconds to spair. Now i have (goat roped , and Pedrogas)
Took a little practice but finally did it with this! I Used crouch to make sure the concussion rifle is aimed at the top of the railing, then stand, then jump and shoot at the same time, two more shot and im up way more consistantly!
The 2 jumps at 6:44-6:50 are impossible for me. It seems your Spartan jumps higher than mine and even if I try to crouch jump it doesn't work.
I finally got the achievement after finishing the mission. For those jumps (2nd and 3rd one) I just used the concussion rifle which made it really easy. On that run I was taking too long though so I watched Pedrogas' video and it gave a somewhat easier and faster way to get up onto the catwalk with two concussion rifle shots. Both of these guides helped me a lot though! :) Now just to mop up the last few achievements for Reach then onto LASO at long last!
Well you needed to hold A haha
At 3:45 aim at the ground and turn around. Easier method.
You even can make this jump without concution of grenade help, Wolfy showed it in his run with Pedrogas at GDQ, unbielievable !
IF YOUR ACHIEVEMENT WON'T POP!
most of the speedruns, people tend to forget that you need to play the cinematic missions at the beginning and end of the campaign. lone wolf also counts for this even though it is not entirely cinematic. lone wolf also has a timer and records that time on halo waypoint. for your first time, start lone wolf on legendary and then try to die as quick as possible. then, watch noble actual, epilogue, and play lone wolf again.
Just to mention on hitting those hard crouch jumps - Sometimes the game is finicky (in my experience) and won't always register the crouch (or simply crouch for an instant and then "stand back up" again). I do a claw grip on the controller (my crouch and jump are mapped b and a) and I HOLD the crouch button right after jumping. I'm much more consistent in landing my jumps this way. Hope this helps someone!
Thank you for sharing !
Thank you for this guide. It was intense, but not nearly as intense as a true speed runner like Pedrogas himself. I was able to get under 3 hours between my solo run following this guide (for Solo Legendary) and my cooperative run with friends.
Thanks my man, a great series of videos throughout. I gave myself some leeway and tried to stay within a few minutes of your times. Avoided having to replay LNOS entirely (phew!)
I think I saw someone comment this already, but couldn't find it. But for the Mac cannon jump, change your crouch setting from toggle to hold and you'll find it alot easier. Once I did that it only took me 2-3 tries and then I was getting it more consistently. 👍
For the jumping at 3:36 its much easier to use the same crouch-jump launch technique you use for reaching the mac gun. just launch yourself backwards onto the ledge. much easier and more reliable for me anyway. takes 2 shots
This guide is perfect thank you
Baaaahhh! I finally did it! Got my first speed run legendary thanks to you! Bless you Silver👐
Thanks for the guide. I used it to get regular par time achievements
Wow I’ve never been killed in the last moment when you get in Mac cannon until now. As soon I got in - i got Banshee bombed.
And just now I learned that dropshield heals you and whoever’s inside.
Btw thanks for the guide! I got the achievement. Only mission I skipped was Long Night of Solace.
Thanks for these guides, managed to get the achievement in a couple days :)
I find the easiest and most constant way to do the concussion launch is to run down the near the end of the rail, jump and quickly fire downwards at the rail and then the wall a few times. Jump just before before firing. No need to carry the drop shield into that battle.
i did this for the achievement and the calling card and i got the achievement but the calling card did not pop
7:03 the elites never leave in any of my runs, sometimes I get lucky and they move just enough to the left that I can nade run and bubble away from them. Its one of the major run enders for me.
The second really big one is when your're at the mac cannon and enemies decide to move to the rock far up the left and stay there forcing you to jump down. Then they ofc immediately rush you...
Last run I didnt get a DMR (probably fell off a cliff. No friendlies spawned and I had a marker way back in the map. Mission still worked, just became a lot harder so I got a 30 second decrease in time 🤣
I just got the achievement thanks to your videos
How'd he get a concussion rifle? Every time I kill the elite with it the gun just vanishes. Maybe it's falling though the floor or ground. MCC and stupid glitches
This is hell, its two rng sections followed by waking a tightrope (that gate is so hard for me and idk why) and then a concussion jump and a grenade jump. Idk whats after that yet because i made it all the way to the grenade jump only to die and be sent back to the concussion jump.
Just my luck, all the jackals on the bottom floor of 9:40 all had needler lol no plasma pistol lmao, so I had to use needler to take out the camo elite and the other elite and then head shot em, the other elite uses armor lock so that was a pain.
Yo Silver, quick question. Will the cowbell skull help with those concussion rifle jumps?
Just got the legendary solo achievement yesterday, but i found that the jump to avoid the buggers was easier to do jumping backwards, with 2 blasts. if you do it the way Silver did it, you're pushing yourself up and potentially back. Jumping backwards i did it in 2 shots of the concussion blast, not worrying too much about looking all the way down. I crouched during the second blast and got up smoothly. I tried going forward, but i tried 6 times and i couldn't do it. Hope this helps someone.
15:56 you can use the gravity hammer of the chieftain. It works effectively for me
No one:
Absolutely no one:
Silver: Lemme tell you what the noob combo is!
Devin Lee it’s ok he has OCD
Got the achievement through this series, thanks man! Now off to do H4 cause it's my next closest.
I found out that at 16:13 when you grenade jump that wall you can instead crouch jump onto the structure that's there and then jump across the gap over the wall
That Mac Cannon jump is fucken bullshit. Every fucken time I get there I just scrape against the spot where my FEET SHOULD BE!!!
i am at the section where the hunters despawned and trying to get through the window, broke the window and i do manage to get onto the window ledge but i cannot get through, what am i missing here?......lol nvrmind after typing i just fell through
The jumps at 6:46 I couldn't do no matter how hard I tried. Tried switching settings but couldn't do it no matter what after 20 min of trying. I'm playing Kb & Mouse so I tried it with xbox controller.
I could surprisingly do it then with a few tries, not easy but it was at least possible. If I spam jump on keyboard against the first object head-on before jumping to the ledge I can't get up but on controller I can just keep spamming a and I get up consistently and fast. Also if I get hit by enemy concussion rifle when on the pipe I fly up with controller but not with KB & mouse which is really strange.
Managed to do exactly like the video after the first cutscene but the enemies didn't despawn. Will have to give it a another shot.
The series is really helpful but after the space map there are simply too many things I can't get right even once that I will have to skip going under 3h.
I've found the last jump is more consistent if you use the drop shield a little lower on the railing. It makes hitting the second shot easier.
Other than that issue your guide works perfectly. I was on pace to beat your time by 30 seconds but then for some f*cking reason the cruiser took almost a full minute longer to get in position than it did for you, so I missed par time by about 30 seconds. So, so angry about that, but I still got the pedrogas achievement.
just love you're runs man =D
Great videos, was a massive help
I’ve done all missions on legendary with the catch skull on and my overall time is 171.38 minutes. But nothing popped.
Isn’t the achievement within 180 minutes? Do I have to do it all in one go in order too? I just hopped around tidying up my times for some missions
Finished this mission and after adding up all my times. Like 2 missions I haven't redone yet. I found I'm just 4 min 28 sec shy of under 3 hrs
I think this is the hardest one to get under 3 hours - Following these guides barely got me under
Thank you very much! I just caught up to pedrogas.
If you have some more ammo left for the Concussion rifle, could you skip the last fight with the elites to get to the MAC cannon? Just like in 11:05, or killing elites is an requirement for the next objective?
Also to trigger the last mac gun sequence, you need to run up those stairs behind the mac gun so it won't just start by being up there unfortunately.
Idk what happened to my first reply, only see my 2nd one....first reply mentioned that the fuel rod elite likes to shoot at you and can even kill you when you're in the mac gun so you'll want to at least take him out.
@@HaloCompletionist Took few tries but I managed to do that, but yea, it's safer to take down the elite with fuel rod at least, since you can get nuked right after getting onto cannon, lost few minutes there. Anyway thanks for the awesome guides!
Thanks to your speedrun guides I got pat time for all the levels on Reach. My time in halo is finally an end 🥹
That bubble jump. WHAT. THE. FUCK. AM. I. DOING. WRONG.
8:30 J-Rock reference?
I'm probably going to have to restart as even with full needle rifle I only killed maybe 10 or 12 enemies. They kept armor locking or doing that stupid roll thing
The shield jump always pushes my backwards never upright
Do i need to do them all in order or is it like Combined time from all of them just needs to be under 3 hrs. Also if i "restart" a mission does that actually refresh my Clock or will it not count.
bit of a late reply, but if you restart the mission it refreshes your clock, you can do any mission in any order, and replay it time and time again, every halo game in MCC will add up your best time from EACH LEVEL, so example and estimate of 10-20 minutes per mission there is 12 missions total 20 minutes x 12 = 4 hours, so 10 minutes per mission and well.. im sure you might get the point
[TLDR] Your guides could use more in-depth looks at trick jumps, alternative guides if trick jumps can't easily be done, or just less trick jumps and more straightforward guides.
To be honest, your Speedrun Guides could do with a little more work if you're going to do series of grenade/explosive jumps. Slowing down the video doesn't help if it's hard to know what I'm looking at. And there are going to be people who cannot make this jumps and you don't seem to give them an alternative. You show these tricks at your first (few) attempts making the jumps seem very easy. When in reality I screwed my entire speedrun because I couldn't crouch jump through a window.
I mean no hate, you are doing a good job in giving comprehensive guides for some of the toughest challenges in MCC across all games whereas the pros have yet to do guides for CE and H2 LASO's.
stuff takes practice my guy. Just because you're learning how to complete the game quickly, don't be fooled into thinking that you're going to spend little to no time practicing.
I have 40+ hrs in the campaign alone trying to complete it as fast as possible, as consistently as possible. That's not including the hours I spend watching and taking notes of other speedrunners' strategies.
@@fancypig I've made a note pad that I'm constantly improving on a lot of strats extracted and refined from several speedruns and guides. I'll be happy to share it with you !
I accidentally restarted mission so now I'm speedrunning it.
(Solved)
So I just played through all missions (including beginning and epilogue) and ended up with a total of 166 minutes but I didn't get the achievement. I did this through the "missions" spot. Do I have to redo this in the Legendary Playlist, or is there something I can do to kick start it without having to play the entire thing over again?
Edit: I should specify, I did have on the competitive time, but did not have any skulls on, and played in one sitting from Noble Actual to Lone Wolf
Solution: even though I completed it in Missions, it seems firing up the Legendary Campaign out of the Playlist section caused it to kick in
For the extra DMR ammo, you can actually melee the wall from outside the building around back as well. I didn't know you could do it from inside as well. On the 360 version though. I'm not sure about MCC
Harlan Klyne I did this and the ammo box went nutz and killed me so be careful!
@@Steve-yq5fh lol yea it got me one or twice before as well
Thank you I finaly did it, without your guide it would be .. impossible O.O ! I want to see an under 3 hours without any script leaved behind o.o
Do I have to crouch at the end of the shield jump?
Didn’t do concussion jumps, got my ass kicked thoroughly
i am 90% sure that jump from the railing to the MAS driver doesnt work on PC
Jump at 11:14 is not possible. I got to it with 12 minutes on my timer, and ended up giving up after my timer crossed 30 minutes.
Definitely possible - took me maybe 4 tries (had more luck once I stopped crouching before jumping).
Ismet Besic Thanks for the tip! I’ll try forgetting the crouch.
For anyone else having trouble with this, I ended up just writing a macro to do the jump for me, then sitting there and tuning the values on the macro until it works every time. Now It's just a one button jump whenever I run this.
Maybe it's cheating, but I spent hours on it and only got it naturally like 5 or 6 times.
@@kylebybee5909 Great way to go above the frustration imo. The original skips involves concution jumps again the wall to get up and it's even harder in my opinion. Concution jump is a hard technique to master or even succeed properly. You just need to practice it from time to time and it will come one day !
Thank you. I got the achievement (I’m on pc)
I shaved off 40 minutes from my last playthrough of this mission. Still took me 45 minutes but still better than an hour and 27 minutes
I wanna see you recreate that bubble shield jump because that shit is so dumb
Do I have to play the entire campaign without stopping to get the achievement?
No, it takes your best times from each mission and adds em up. You can do them as many times as you want and in any order.
Hey if you save and quit because you need to go out or something and come back Will you still get the achievement?
Yes. The achievement does indeed take your best time one the missions, so if you just record par time on legendary on every mission (without necessarely doing it via the playist nor playing missions on the right order) you 'll get the achievement
So i needed to do this mission in 29 minutes yo get the achievement. I did it in 31 because of the stupid mac gun. Hopped in to hit the cruiser and died before I could even get the shot off. Spent 2 minutes there doing that...
I've got a 2h and 47mins, and achievement doesn't pop up, any idea?
OK never mind, I started camping and achievement showed up. Thanks a lot for this Silver, I only have to complete this mission in laso to complete TMCC!!
You what would be worse than doing pillar of autumn halo reach
Truth and reconciliation halo CE
Halo 2 in general
Cortana in halo 3
And midnight in halo 4
Is to have to do them on LASO within 3 hours. Beat par time on every mission on LASO. I don't think even silver here could do that.
I got to the gun in 15 minutes and thought it was going to be a good run but then spent another 30min to complete which finished with 45.15 why my best is 41 .20 man this is annoying
Disliked for the spoiler at about 20:00