Gotta love Minecraft videos that act like all the players play completely optimally and speedrun everything in 25 minutes. Most people don't beat the dragon, let alone get an Elytra.
don't forget how one of dream's arguments against the iceologer was that the mob could make speedrunning in mountains harder, ignoring that literally any other hostile mob that isn't a blaze or enderman already was an obstacle for speedrunning annoying speedrunners and youtubers like jetstarfish only think of minecraft as a RPG in which you NEED to become more and more powerful instead of the game being a sandbox that gives you the freedom to do whatever you want whenever you want
@@peterfamilyguy2040 I'm pretty sure if a run doesn't spawn near an ocean or a village it gets reset anyways, what a lame excuse for ruining that year's mob vote
i have never once beaten the game on survival ☠️ nor gotten an elytra ive never flown with it the day it came out. i just play it for fun and get to the diamond-iron stage of the game before making a new world or just taking a break for a few months
@@Pellogram jet video points a problem and tries to give solutions. It isn't negativity but constructive criticism. Giving solutions he takes the risk of being wrong, but is better than don't giving any idea or saying that everything is good when it isn't.
5:06 the elytra needs no nerfs. It literally a end game item there is no reason to try to restrict its use at that point. If you choose to use it or not is up to you. Im a builder and elytra are very useful for tall buids. A lot people forget that if you try to cater to one play style to much you will start hurting the other play style indirectly.
THANK YOU. The elytra may be OP, but if you really think it needs nerfing, then you should just avoid it. You can choose to do that. That's the beauty of a sandbox game like Minecraft. Nerfing the Elytra will only cause needless drama and complaints from one side of the community since it's a Minecraft building staple at this point.
I think that the elytra is way too op, but nerfing them is difficult, maybe making them stamina dependant, so you can't use them for more than 2 minutes in a row, but can use them to move around your base or watxh and area from the heaven
@@joaquinginestet4813 it a choice to use them. Nobody is forcing you to use them all the time. I personally do have a elytra but I decide to rather walk and build paths instead of flying most of the time just for the challenge. This is a sandbox game, you can opt out of using features with in it. Again this item needs no nerfs because it is found in the endgame portion of the game were the game is soposed to open up more. At that stage of the game there is no reason to keep the player grounded because they have reached there peak in the games progression tree at that point. It is like the space jump in metroid games were the really op items like it are saved for the end game so it dose not break the early game. Were else to put the elytra then? It is the furthest away a item can be from the players reach. I think it's in the perfectly right place if you ask me and it's utility for builders is often forgotten about in these conversations about the elytra.
@@Random66860it literally is. You feel like a God in your world with powerful items and can literally manipulate spawns, drops, interactions, and only die when it matters to a few mobs and situations like Warden. Now in GTA you don't feel like a God because you can still get killed, arrested from the car, destroyed by tank interactions, sniped by helicopter, outnumbered by gangs and enter a chaotic road chase, in some games drown, caught up in explosion, and i could go on. Minecraft survival is a sandbox game were you create whatever you want aside from command blocks, which don't necessarily make it a sandbox on its ownl
heres an even simpler rebuttal to the netherite upgrade template issue: mojang knows that structures having already been looted can be an issue, it can be frustrating to have to find the third nearest instead of the nearest structure ...so they added vaults for once-per-player loot in trial chambers. but they specifically didnt call it a Trial Vault or anything, because they've said they want to be able to use it in other structures, such AS the bastion, or heck... for the elytra, even?
i am convinces they are going to add it to all structures in future since even elytras can be a pain to find on larger multiplayer servers and it sure does a good job to help making obtaining items as a player better, i do hope they will add them in future since thats game changing and would straight up solve all the "problems" mentioned in jets video regarding multiplayer
The real problem with exploration is the inventory. After exploring for a while your inventory will get filled with random stuff that you need. And also beds and phantoms. Because if you sleep in a bed, then sleep in another bed, than break that bed. You will respawn at the world spawn. And you can’t just not sleep in a bed or else phantoms will spawn.
@@Howabouthereand for the bed like they add some kind of sleeping carpet that does not set the spawn point. Also removing the item de spawn when a player dies would help a lot
Donkeys can help with that. Those extra slots are incredibly helpful on a long adventure. Also, if you have silk touch you can use an ender chest for even more storage (which only gets better with shulker boxes)
Minecraft has a problem with exploration, but it's none of the stuff talked about in this video or in JetStarfish's video. It's the problem that my world is already like 400 mb and it takes FOREVER to back up and I explored so much and it was over a gigabyte so I had to trim over half the chunks to get it to a reasonable file size so now I limit myself on exploration to keep my file size small
That and the fact that you aren't encouraged to travel too far away from your base because there is no easy way back and if you die good luck getting your items back from a million blocks away
@@Nuniixowhat do you mean by that? I thought that the reason for such large file sizes is the fact that Minecraft has to save those chunks as soon as you load them, since there could be some non-naturally generated blocks.
@@Nuniixo Minecraft does unload chunks that aren't in your render distance. You've misunderstood what the issue is... The issue is that every chunk takes up file space, so the more you explore the bigger your world's file size will be (completely unrelated from whether or not the chunks are loaded).
2:23 Naw bro. Horses did not make the Minecart obsolete. Because minecarts can be used to transport mobs like villagers, all the best using a horse or elytra to transport the villager from village to base for your iron farm or trading hall
Transport villagers is not exploration. I could make transportation system for villagers with piston or water, it's possible, but it is not their main purpose. As well, as boat's main purpose is exploration on boat, not entity transportation or Nether travel. If main reason of overall existing is suck, you can't simply "but it could do this", since THIS is not main reason of this item's existence.
@@RastrKrok I don't see how the minecart has ever been an exploration feature personally. You can't use it without laying down rails, and you can't do that until you've already gotten to the location you want to get to.
I have to disagree with nerfing the elytra. The problem isn't that the elytra is op, it's not even that the other forms of transportation are slower. For me and many others the problem is that the other options are just less fun and more tedious. Nerfing the elytra wouldn't encourage people to use other options unless you make it just as boring to use. The solution should be to make everything else more fun. For example, when playing the create mod I don't use elytra because trains are just more fun even though they're objectively worse as the require a lot of resources. So instead minecarts should be linkable to make a train with furnace minecarts at the front functioning as an engine. If I could make a massive railway system then I would rarely ever use elytra. In the end, Minecraft is a sandbox game and the player should be able to choose the transportation the have the most fun with. The whole problem with JetStarfish's video is that he's trying to force his playstyle onto everyone else. And nerfing the elytra would be doing the same thing.
I’d love to have more fun minecarts cuz I like building roller coasters with them? They should be faster but limited to the resources you need to craft them. Also add copper to the construction.
@@Zaylic honestly i think the elytra is balanced in its obtainability. sure some players just immediately rush to the end to get it but most players havent actually beaten the dragon at all making it so the elytra is completely off the table. horses are still balanced because theyre easy to get early game and see alot of use because of that, you cant find an elytra just roaming around in some fields 20 blocks from where you spawn. its like arguing iron armor is useless because netherite exists. also, minecarts have their niche of mob transport. imagine making a villager trading hall without them. horses have their niche early game, minecarts have their niche in mob transport and the elytra is all rounder balanced by its hard obtainability, a bit like the rod of discord from terraria
I don't even know how you could make the other modes of transportation better besides adding ways to make them faster. Honestly, I don't think they're as bad as people say they are. Yeah, Minecarts on normal rails are kinda slow, but with powered rails, they're quite fast. Also, I do like the idea of minecarts being able to couple each other.
I do think minecarts should get more use as a mode of transport as a reward for the player setting up a whole track, but honestly I don't think you need to nerf the elytra or even horses to do that. Right now I'd say that minecarts have the niche use of being one of the most convenient and reliable ways to transfer items around, but there's pretty much no point using it for travel. It needs something unique, like the ability to jump carts like in donkey kong, or to more easily control tracks to always go where you want without doing a bunch of redstone work. Not saying it has to be either of those things specifically, I just think something is missing that could make them more unique and worthwhile. Also, somewhat unrelated to what I was saying but I wanted to point this out: "Make the elytra 3x rarer!" "The netherite upgrade template is too rare for multiplayer!" Yeah, his idea for the elytra is definitely half-baked, and even that's being a bit generous lol. Multiplayer severs are still all going to have fully geared players, no mater how rare the gear is. I do think the netherite upgrade is kind of a bad item but that's a different issue.
Honestly I feel like a fix that makes sense for the elytra is to just at more stuff to the sky that make fly long distance a bit more difficult, not making it impossible to fly long distances but just making flying more of a required skill. I don't know if that makes any sense.
Good vid. You forgot to mention the mod to "fix" all of those issues that he was trying to SELL, which is ILLEGAL as it breaks the rules of Minecrafts EULA.
6:39, lots of multiplayer servers have their worldborders relatively close to 0,0 so all available bastions COULD get fully looted. If u already pointed this out in the video then pls lmk
5:05 that would mean going back to 1.9 elytra when you couldnt use fireworks, it was nothing else but a pretty useless curiosity, that would be the worst possible way of nerfing the elytra
we have the problem with no netherite upgrade templates on our sever because the border is 15k by 15k blocks and its more than 1 netherite block to buy one.
I don't think we need to nerf elytra It is end game item and it is fine. People complain about elytra being too op when they do best strat to progress to get that end game item @-@. That is weird. I don't know how to explain it cuz i'm not good at English but i think u guys know what i mean. When u get elytra, the only thing left is building pretty thing in your world, play it like sandbox game and not play it like rpg game :))
@@Random66860 Play it like a sandbox because it is one. I get you're no older than 13 so this is hard to comprehend, but when people tell you it's a sandbox game, you wont change their mind with "nuh uh"
@@notnicknamed I'm 15 years old, and I've already had a lot of discussions about minecraft powerscaling and in the minecraft coommunity, so I have a lot of experience with minecraft, don't underestimate me
Minecraft is a sandbox game at its heart. This means Mojang will never really want to dictate a certain way to play the game, as it'd isolate a large part of their audience. I think this is also why the gameplay is so "short." The progression of Minecraft is basic for a reason, you're supposed to choose your own pace. You can beat the game in a few hours or you can take it slow or you could just explore the world. The game needs some basic balancing changes, yes, but not to the degree that Jet makes it seem in his original video.
honestly i wish mojang leans into that idea more, what if you can change which structure should spawn and its rarity, maybe even the same with ores, more options would be nice to encourage that mindset, i recently also played a mod which REDUCES the amount of structures that spawn in the world and honestly i had way more fun, of course it wouldent be the same for everyone, so i think tweaking it to your liking is the way to go!
You can never put the blame on mojang making the way minecraft works, because at the end of the day its the player that explores and decides where to life and how to play minecraft. Deciding either to settle somewhere or te constantly keep exploring.
Slight correction, you said that elytras have limited quanitity on servers but later said that netherite templates didn't because you can explore more.
@@Zaylic But you can fly into eltyra spawns, and not for templates. the main complaint on servers is world borders and greedy players. do agree on the points, just not those statements added on them.
I think they nerfed elytras in the Java Combat snapshots. They made it slower (which indirectly made it easier to manuever when gliding) but also changed it so that the durability of elytra only gets reduced when using rockets. Idk.
now that you mentioned, slower but easier to manuever is a great niche for elytra. It would be more useful for reaching high places and less useful for distance traveling.
@@Random66860 minecraft as a survival game doesn't work that well either. with a shield, any kind of weapon (even wooden ones) and a crop (wich works as an unlimited food source) you can basically survive forever
nah respectfully i disagree with the eltya nerf tactic. nerfing the eltyra will just make it useless especially the nerf you suggested to make it not work with firework. Who tf uses an elytra without fireworks that solution is wayy worse than to the lower spawn rate of them and just sends us back before elytras worked with fireworks(they were shit and noone really used them) so its ironic how your calling his solution awful. Without the fireworks the elytra is just a reskinned parachute that can glide you to safety... What an ingenious solution. People still found ways to fly with it anyways like the punch bow method but thats just downright awful gameplay. The real problem is how f*cking quick the game is so you can get elytras in a couple hours. Its just another aspect of minecrafts progression issue. The harder the item is to obtain the great the reward should be right? The problem with the elytra is that its too easy to obtain. instead of being a legendary loot you get from grinding through 3 dimensions its a legendary loot you can get in a day. Your solution is the easiest but also the worse possible solution, actually making the game both harder and longer to complete is the better solution imo instead of keeping the broken system we have now where the end and the nether are both jokes. another one i disagree with is the defence of the netherite template arguement. your first point-"there is no way every bastion has been looted" yes but most of the time a lot of them are looted and you have to go tens of thousands of blocks away from spawn to find unlooted bastions on large server similar to the end ships. You shouldn't be punished for just joining the server late by having to grind harder than everyone else for the best armour set or trade for it which brings me on to my second point. your second point-"you can trade for it" Its just naive to think on every server people are willing to trade. Some servers are just more hostile than others thats a fact(like some anarchy servers for example) and even if eventually get someone to trade with you why are you forced to trade in the first place. This gives early players such an unfair advantage and leverage in negotiating a price for it (people arent gonna trade it for just 7 diamonds theres no value added for them). what your saying is basically late players on a server you have 2 options to obtain netherite armour. Search for unlooted bastions for hours or trade which may not be even possible. Sh*t solution to encourage "exploration" I have a better idea and its simpler to. Just make dungeon chests (like in bastions nether fortresses end ships) different to regular chests in that they have personalised loot so every person who loots it gets there own loot. SIMPLE. Dont say thats impossible cause there are mods which do that. I think that was the whole premise of the stone chests that mojang where going to add for the ancient cities and they have implemented a similar solution in trial chambers with the vaults and i think that should just be universal for all dungeons to avoid this nonsense. rest of the vid is good tho. keep up the good work.
*>nerfing the eltyra will just make it useless especially the nerf you suggested to make it not work with firework. Who tf uses an elytra without fireworks that solution is wayy worse than to the lower spawn rate of them and just sends us back before elytras worked with fireworks(they were shit and noone really used them)* you're right, i definitely should have given a more thorough response in the video, my main point was that his solution definitely could have been a lot better *>The real problem is how f*cking quick the game is so you can get elytras in a couple hours* true, but i dont think that there is a simple way of fixing this because the game is so short anyways *>yes but most of the time a lot of them [bastions] are looted and you have to go tens of thousands of blocks away from spawn to find unlooted bastions on large server* i guess it depends how large specifically. less than 10 players it shouldnt be a problem at all, but if there are 50 or more then yes finding an unlooted bastion would be very frustrating. however the more people there are on the server the more likely they would be willing to trade their upgrade template. i still dont see a reason why nobody on a large server would be willing to trade a template for it's crafting materials. large """"""survival""""" servers however typically have a bunch of annoying intrusive plugins, one of which typically is a shop/trading system, which does fix the scarcity problem. the only time where i think his argument is completely valid is like you said, anarchy servers, it would probably take more time to get a template on one of those. *>its just naive to think on every server people are willing to trade. Some servers are just more hostile than others thats a fact* eh it's possible i overestimated how easy it might be, but the framing that its "impossible" to get if you join late is still incorrect. it will be harder, sure. but thats true of getting any resource on a server where you join late *>what your saying is basically late players on a server you have 2 options to obtain netherite armour. Search for unlooted bastions for hours or trade which may not be even possible. Sh*t solution to encourage "exploration"* maybe i wasnt clear enough in the video but the reason i said those things was to counter the idea that getting netherite is "impossible" if you join late. harder? yes, but not impossible. i also wouldn't be opposed to making the upgrade template come from another more renewable source too in order to help multiplayer, maybe a rare drop from piglins (like what they did with soul speed). *>I have a better idea and its simpler to. Just make dungeon chests (like in bastions nether fortresses end ships) different to regular chests in that they have personalised loot so every person who loots it gets there own loot.* i completely agree! they did something similar to this with the trial vaults and i think its a great solution and should also apply to other structure loot chests (maybe not all of them but definitely the bastion and end ship at the very least) *>rest of the vid is good tho. keep up the good work.* thank you! and thank you for taking the time to leave a comment with your critiques, i really do appreciate it a lot
His solution is still awful. Making end ships more rare doesn't make getting it more difficult, it's just more tedious work. Mojang's solution of fireworks costing durability was pretty good because then you'd use your fireworks more sparingly and when you actually needed them, rather than using them all the time. You'd use horses or soul sand paths or even buffed minecarts for shorter transport between areas. Horses for exploration are only early game and them getting replaced by elytras later IS fine
Or maybe multiplayer just sucks, why would someone ever wants to play in a server of 40 people that don't let you do nothing but run cause they don't want you to explore the world
Exploration in minecraft isn't perfect, it would need more reward as it currently has, but you say it all : most of the things he tells us that "are a problem " are not, and why would you need to make the progression linear and not be able to go to an ancient city before fighting the ender dragon? If you finished the game you're ply so advanced you don't need these loots that much...
I went into this video expecting to hate it, cause I liked the one to which you’re responding. However, your points were mostly right. I do think changing resource distributions in different biomes is a good, thing it extends the endgame on singleplayer by making outposts and transportation between the main base and these outposts viable, and on multiplayer, it promotes trade between players who built their bases in different biomes. With the horse, I totally agree his solution is annoying AF, but something similar I thought of (having to feed the horse or let it eat grass every thousand blocks or so) could cause a similar feeling without being completely cringe.
So funny thing about resource distributions in biomes (because I also said this)... he flat out lied there, different biomes do have different ore distributions.
I have another Idea.The idea is to make other transpo more relevant by nerfing elytra, and buffing the other transport.We should nerf Membrane drop, by remove the mending enchantment and make the dura of elytra twice as fast in overworld and trice as fast in nether.This would force players to use elytra only in dire circumstances(like being chased by players or falling to the void) this would also discouraged players to use elytra in the nether as it's quite op.By minecart I agree what the vid says make minecart faster and make rails cheap.And I want to add another Idea it's by making minecart in nether much faster .And for horse I suggest instead of making horse like what the vid said.What if we put a hunger bar for horse but much more slower than players hunger bar.And for the boat they are okay but I suggest nerf their speed on ice.
@@n4mele_c3r63forcing players? in a sandbox game where even in survival, their own world, they feel like a God? it's always players like you who ruin fun for other people, who actually enjoy Minecraft for what it is
@@n4mele_c3r63here is a simple solution. If you don't like using mending, elytra, membranes, fireworks, don't. Others don't too? don't use it. problem solved
It's literally a game for people of all ages to do and play how they want. Be a farmer. Be a industrialist. Capitalist etc. Just like Lego the limit is your imagination. Basically no need to debate just play the game and have fun at your own pace.
No estoy de acuerdo del todo. Claro que es un juego Sandbox, pero eso no significa que hay mecánicas que lo pueden hacer más o menos aburridos. Después de 10 años jugando Minecraft estoy profundamente aburrido de sus mecánicas, quiero cosas nuevas pero sin instalar 10 mods.
@@averageartist1101 he said something to the effect of “of course it’s a sandbox game, but after 10 years of playing it gets boring and i want there to be more features”
@@Zaylic Thank you so much. I also agree on that some more features could be implemented maybe a few fixes for bedrock if possible but we all know bedrock will never be fixed.
Nearby bastions getting looted is a true issue. Despite you cab trade can trade, it's still a problem because there is still a chance that you can't buy a template (very player dependent) Another issue is with the old worlds because all looted bastions will have no templates
I swear I detest players like JetStarfish. "This item isn't something to be used as armor or a weapon?!?!?! Useless!!!!! Decorative blocks????? What's that?"
Here is how we fix elytra, instead of having rockets be so readily available for elytra fuel, players have to collect dragon's breath and fuse it with a rocket in order to have viable rocket fuel otherwise right clicking on a rocket mid air with elytra just causes it to explode and disable the elytra. Also disable the ender dragon's ability to break blocks, or add new dragon arena structures in other parts of the end, so players can still build their nice end-spawn bases. Further more for multiplayer, I think trial spawners should be a new feature in revamped minecraft structures and in the revamped end, after defeating a mini-boss of some kind players get an end city key which allows them to get a guaranteed elytra. Dungeons and Taverns knows what they are doing. Renewable sources for rare loot.
Okay here's my idea to improve minecarts: Take the existing minecart connection code that's been in the game since Alpha v1.0.14, and fix it so the trains are consistent, and make it so furnace minecarts dont randomly lose speed just because they turned a corner And finally make it so furnace minecarts have an interface showing how much coal is inside them rather than accepting one coal and running for 5 minutes The code to make trains is already in the game, people beg and beg to be able to make trains This would make it so cool to make actual train stations and actually make long didtance trains viable without needing to AFK at a zombified piglin farm for hours
I don't know if anyone said anything about this yet, but for Java Minecraft there is a mod that nerfs the elytra in a really unique and clever way, that still makes it viable called Aileron. It removes the ability to use fireworks, but replaces it with the ability to use campfires as updrafts, and the more campfires you have in one place, the stronger the updraft. Not only that, it adds 2 exclusive enchantments to the elytra as well. Smokestack, which lets you build up a limited amount of boosts you can use mid air, and Cloudskipper, which makes the elytra fly better at higher and higher altitudes. Now, instead of just building a gunpowder and sugarcane farm for fireworks, you build routes of bonfires and watchtowers that let you fly long distances, making the elytra require as much infrastructure as a minecart system, while still being a fast, endgame form of transportation.
1. Minecarts are still useful in redstone contraptions. Like they aren't really used for transport which sucks but they have a new niche to fill. And I think that's the problem with horses. I think giving all the horses a 3x3 inventory space and then just having mules and donkeys carry more would give them a little bit of extra utility. Also I really like the idea of llamas being able to only carry one type of item but a very large quantity of them. Like imagine if instead of a llama being able to carry at most 15 stacks of items, they'd be able to carry an entire double chest of like one item. So if you wanted to go build a castle somewhere, you could load up all of your llamas with cobblestone and then go there and you have all of what you need without having to go back and forth or rely on end game items like shulker boxes. 2. The elytra being overpowered is fine, because it's an end game item. Minecraft isn't really built with it in mind, so you never actually feel like you're missing it unless you get it really early and decide to use it as a crutch for a very long time. But if you do want to balance it I would personally just add some flying hostile mobs that only really attack you if you're near them and flying. 3. I don't like the netherite upgrade tablet. I don't like the idea of netherite to begin with, but I especially don't like upgrade tiers being locked behind a specific item that's only function is for crafting one item number one type of item. I generally dislike items that only have one use like a lot of the potion ingredients or rabbit hide.
This may be a hot take, but I don't think Elytras are really a problem. People always talk about P R O G R E S S I O N when complaining about Minecraft... But those very same people also complain about the Elytra? Is it not _supposed_ to outclass other transportation types? Its end game loot, and it just makes the game more enjoyable. It cuts out the tedium, and in my opinion, that doesn't need to be nerfed. Tedium should never be a requirement. The REAL reason people don't use Minecarts or Horses is because of the downsides that come with them. Minecarts are expensive, and require a ton of setup to use (placing down rails for hours SUCKS). Meanwhile I never uses Horses because 1) They can't cross water. 2) They're so big that they can't get through trees very easily, and 3) They limit your abilities and make you unable to mine things. The reason people don't use these is because they _add_ tedium to the game. Because they have limitations that don't need to be there. Why do they need to have some downside? Why shouldn't they just be an upgrade to your base abilities? Do these things even _need_ to be "balanced" if it just takes away from player enjoyment??? (Also a 4th issue with horses, if you're playing on a server with sethomes, you can't teleport your horse with you... It doesn't effect vanilla, obviously, but that's another huge reason why I never use horses). There's also the fact that Minecarts are GAME CHANGERS when it comes to redstone farms. You'd be hard pressed to find any hyper efficient farms that don't utilize Hopper Minecarts in some way.
6:12 actually he is somewhat correct here because on really large servers such as 2b2t you would have to travel millions of blocks just to find a bastion that hasn't been raided. Also on one of these servers (especially pvp servers) players who have obtained these are unlikely to give them up and will instead attempt to destroy all of them so that they can create a monopoly.
.. but WHY nerf the elytra at all?????? It's an end-game item. It takes a lot of risk to get it, and once you have it all it can do is let you glide. Yeah you can fly with rockets. But guess what? ROCKETS REQUIRE RESOURCES!! The average player is not going to build massive paper and gunpowder farms in order to supply their endless flying needs! To the average player, once they get the elytra (if they even bother at all because a large amount of casual players don't even make it to the end IN THE FIRST PLACE) they are going to use it sparringly, because gunpowder is annoying to obtain organically, and paper takes a while to grow. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO THINKS THIS SHIT IS OP ARE THE ONES THAT RUIN THEIR OWN FUN WITH FARMS. STOP RUINING THIS SHIT FOR EVERYONE ELSE BY CONSTANTLY DEBUFFING AND MAKING SHIT RARER!
"Oooh totems of undying are so abundant we should debuff and make them rarer, rockets are too easy to make, piglins are too op, villagers are too op" How are you obtaining so many. "Oh I built a farm for them" ?????????????????????????????? Where's the issue?????
@@TheLeafcuter rockets require minimal resources. kill creepers for five minutes and mine some sugar cane and your set for days. it should not be that easy
@@Zaylic Depends on how much you use the elytra. I used a whole stack of flight duration 3 rockets to find a Treasure bastion. Luckily I had a creeper farm, but that took hours to make
You are so true bro, except for the "there is no bastion problem" claim. SMPs love to make world borders smaller than they actually are. For example: in my friend's SMP, the world border is only like 4096 blocks and the nether border is even smaller. I think it's like 500 something blocks
I actually don't hate the horse stamina bar idea, I'm on board with letting my lil buddy rest a bit while exploring Also I didn't know the elytra was a problem since I never use those lol
What makes Minecraft, undertale, and other loved games good is to break the rules, and minecraft is actually a Survival game it actually focuses on creativity and upgrading your area in you best way , and this what makes Minecraft Minecraft , and also Minecraft added thinks that literally no one wanted, and i think thats what makes interesting to explore, or idk just add end update f*cking Mojang
Remove the ability to add unbreaking or mending to the elytra however add the ability to add prot as compensation while still making it worse for fighting than a chest plate
who the hell even said exploration is fine? it's never fine and never has been, jetstarfish is right on every point and there's no need to explain why. every player is stuck on this stupid loop. the main problem is that it's so fucking bland u just take ur horse or just use the elytra and wander around till u find a structure that u can loot in a min or two, don't even get me started with the inventory problems.
Minecarts could be faster; but they're hands free, can be ridden afk for long distances, and are useful to transport mobs & goods especially villagers, not to mention both speed and power rails can be duplicated in the current vanilla game if you don't like the price, just like carpets. Minecarts are also great in a highly developed server like mine, with many long roads and spread out cities in different places, because they can be marked with signs and lead directly to a destination without getting lost or needing a map. And later with enough effort an ice highway with boats can be an extremely fast method of transportation and upgrade to an existing rail network if you really want to save time. To summarize I think there are more uses for any particular thing than any one person can recognize and that's why useless is a word I save only for people 😂
I didnt really agree with jet's take on the ancient city either. The fact he left out enchanted books and swift sneak when talking about loot tables to make it sound more boring was.. a lil odd. Theeen he said he wanted to lock it behind beating the dragon, which is a stupid idea because the whole point of the ancient city is to find it WHILE EXPLORING. I liked the xp thing tho its like the xp tome.
I kinda agree that the solutions are bad but i still think that the problems are real. Like in the first segment or chapter you are saying that players should spend more time on building then exploring, and if we want to fix exploration thats bad. I think that the elytra should be removed and i dont care if the community gets angry, its op as fuck and too easy to get. About the horse and minecart problem, i have no clue how one can fix that, the minecart one is pretty good but the horse stamina thing isnt. And about the multiplayer thing most servers have a limited nether (4k-4k or smth like that) so it can be a problem to get netherite templates, though the player trading thing should work. So in the end i think that you are the building type but that still wont fix the exploration problems.
@@SparkBruh WOW, i just watched The Hayze’s video, she caught so many lies that i just glossed right over. her video could have been produced a bit better but in terms of actual substance she blows my video out of the park. i think im gonna have to make a follow up video to this because i completely missed the most important parts. when you asked me about him attempting to monetize it i thought you meant from youtube ad revenue, i completely forgot about the mod he made, that’s genuinely so scummy
3:50 actually based on what he said, his suggestion seems like the opposite of what he wants If he wants to encourage long travels, maybe do that the lomger the horse runs, the fast it is
I actually disagree with the netherite upgrade thing. Don’t get me wrong, jet is a scammer and makes horrendous points. But saying that the Minecraft world is infinite as a justification for this is ridiculous. If I’m playing on said large server, I don’t want to travel 3000 blocks in the nether while the others on the server first were able to get their templates within a 500 block radius of the portal spawn. Not to mention the hardcore explorers that loot everything even perhaps thousands of blocks away. People can be competitive depending on the type of server, so it is definitely possible that you wont be able to trade for one. I think using vaults with keys inside the bastions would fix the problem entirely. so that every person can get an upgrade template from the closest bastion instead of disadvantaging some players.
As a solo player, I think a problem with exploration is when a new biome comes out and I want to get that wood (i.e mahogany wood) in a world that I play in I have to walk so far just to maybe find one. Also mojang please make it so horses to swim please
Minecraft exploration is endless. A seed I had for a town server I had created but not really a proper server cause I'm not that technical cause I'm on ps4. Maybe south or. East. Or north. West?? There is a woodland mansion on a giant tall monolith of cobblestone! Where you can easily see the mansion in the forest below or when you're pulling up in a boat. It was a crazy thing I saw.
While his video has some very cool and interesting suggestions. But the fact that a video was made on Minecraft having an exploration problem, whilst the game essentially doesn't force a playstyle upon you, much less to explore for the sake of it, makes the video sound redundant. As it has been pointed out before. Minecraft isn't an RPG, or an exploration game, it's a sandbox game. As long as it continues to be that, it's not useful to complain about a problem which doesn't even exist, taking into context the game we are talking about in this first place. You made a very good video. Congrats ^^
I haven't seen that video in my recommendations "a dozen times" I've however seen videos like YOURS in my recommendations a DOZEN TIMES Jesus christ why do people love painting themselves as saints at any given moment?
I can see the netherite upgrade being a problem in massive multiplayer survival servers, but if you're in a chill private server with your friends, it's just kind of rude to hog netherite upgrade templates and never share.
Bruhhh i never watched the original video because i knew it was going to be bad but his points MAKE NO SENSE. Oh nobody uses the horse so lets nerf it, oh elytras are easy to get (7 hours searching for an end city with a boat) so lets make the search 60 hours instead (after you obtain it nothing else changes) 6:37 ok i disagree with you in this one, every fucking bastion on my 9 people server i find is already looted 😭 still the easiest fix is to make them use vaults instead of chests but also he forgets that many things like trims and wood require you to explore, so idk what his problem is
If elytras need a nerf then my solution is add an encumberment system so the more items you carry the harder it is to fly until you cant fly at all. This make elytras more suited to quick travel and surveying the areas or simply getting around base fast but isnt designed for transporting everything or gathering huge amounts of materials. This leaves room for minecarts and horses to be more suited to transporting large amounts of materials (and mobs) for when you find an area you want to start harvesting at. honestly not sure how that would feel in practice but i think its the least offensive way to nerf something that lets them all have something to contribute without removing all the benefits entirely. again on the minecart thing, people always seem to neglect the part where minecarts transport mobs (which boats have been nerfed on) whereas no other form of transportation is capable of doing... so realistically minecarts dont need fixing all that much.
Literally all he needed to say for the elytra was that firework rockets uses a flat amount of durability per usage and that would easily fix the elytra; By having it be so the rockets do a flat amount of durability per usage (say like 2-3 durability per usage), it still allows firework rockets to be used, but it also makes it more of a risk/reward rather than being able to spam firework rockets all the time.
Okay so let me say what how I would fix shit. The minecarts speed should definitely be buffed as well as making them connect to one another. Then for the horse. The horse itself is pretty fine but the thing that nerfs it is the Minecraft generation itself. Most of the trees are way too short to navigate with a horse and that's one of the main reasons the horse is bad. The fix for this would be a general generation update, aka updating the biomes by making trees taller etc. And finally the elytra. The one that puts all of them into f tier. I can't agree with you about them making fireworks useless for elytras. The fix here would be to decrease the amount of boost each rocket gives or something like that. But hey that's just my take on this
One way they can fix the elytra would be allowed them to craft, now make it so you need to get 3 items to get the elytra, 1: dragon wings scales, each time when u kill a dragon it will drop 2-4 scale and you need 4 to craft one 2: like the axo skeleton of for the elytra from the end city 3: something to keep them together like slime balls,string So 4 dragon wings scale on both sides in the top middle the axo skeleton of the Elyra and middle a slime blocks or string to make a elytra Idk i just made thia things up while writing the comments 😂
6:42 Clearly you’ve never played on a public SMP, because as anyone who has will tell you, you need to go out hundreds of thousands of blocks just to find one unlooted structure. Is spending hours of your life just trying to get the template, not to mention the actual mining, just to get slightly better armor?
@@Zaylic Well, when you have a limited resource that takes hours of peoples time to get a single one and is expensive to duplicate, that begins driving up the price of said resource. A prime example is a superflat server I play on, where diamonds are a very rare commodity which can only be obtained via structures. Because of this, what would normally be maybe 20 minutes of mining for enough diamonds to duplicate the upgrade template becomes 3 hours of work needed. Also, the fact that your server you play on is so new means that there hasn’t been a long enough time for all structures close to spawn to get raided.
i mean there are some improvements that could be done to exploration, like a overhaul to biome specific structures like the desert temple, or a touch up of the end, and some ideas he brings arent all that bad, minecart my beloved. but a lot of his takes dont make sense
the best way to nerf the elytra is simple give it a niche, if horses have the exploring niche and minecarts have the going place to place niche then give the elytra a quick repositioning and vertical movement niche which all you would have to do it make it less good overtime, personally i would do this by nerfing its durability a bit and maybe add a enchantment that gives you more fine controls with it or makes it so you don't take damage while hitting a wall or the floor and then make that enchantment not be able to go with unbreaking or hell just remove unbreaking from being able to go on it cause it can't actually break, this means on long trips you have to repair it by waiting for phantoms or finding a quick exp source both which could take awhile in some random part of the world far away from your base which makes it better the closer you are to established locations with some infrastructure.
Agree with your criticism. JetStarFish did make some good points but those takes were kinda dumb ngl. I think his idea for the horse could work though with some tweaks or so and the issue with the elytra is well, alot more complicated than just to nerf it. Yeah Jet's idea for the elytra is just dumb on so many levels but I think the elytra should have its own video like he said
I do think exploration is a bit flawed right now compared to old versions in that... Biome generation is very... Predictable. Thats my only real gripe, its pretty rare to see a desert near a snow biome compared to very old versions. I played with a friend once and legitimately an area of 5k by 5k blocks around spawn were warm biomes ONLY.
@@kyle--859 yeah I know and I personally think it's an awful change at least in its current state with how easy it is to just get only warm or cold biomes, it's awful for exploration because you CA end up going for thousands of blocks and not find the biome you want
Honestly I've had a preety good elytra nerf in mind for a while, make elytras have no durability, as much as a wooden tool, you can still use it early game but it's gonna break after flying for 5 mins. But when you get into the late game, you'll have access to mending and unbreaking. Though those 2 enchantments aren't enough by themselves, so you would need xp bottles which you get from villagers, this is a late game item. And for people who like speedrunning everything in minecraft getting a villager trading hall won't take them long, so they can stay happy with their elytras and max armor and stuff, I think this is a preety good balance to elytras.
that could work, i think another solution could also be making it so you cant repair it with mending or add unbreaking to it. forcing the player to perserve their phantom membranes
I think the exploration is fine, the main problem is that there isnt much to incentivise the player to travel to different parts of the world, the main reason why you want to travel is to look for strongholds and materials for builds. Most structures are pointless as the loot is reletively the same and will be pointless at end game and there are little variety in biomes (such as mobs and vegetation) making them feel quite boring and repetitive. Other than that i agree with this video
I believe that the elytra should not be usable with fireworks during flight. Instead, players could still use fireworks to propel themselves into the air for gliding, similar to the mechanics seen in Minecraft Dungeons. Or, it would be great if Minecraft introduced some sort of "lore journals" within the game that provide basic explanations about various aspects like the Nether Portal. These journals could offer guidance without overwhelming players with too much lore, this would allow the lore to still be built by the community and ensure a seamless experience for newcomers. By incorporating this feature, players can better understand the elytra's purpose and benefits, while discouraging excessive boosting during flight without nerfing it so people can still use it as is, but also be given a different way to use it that could be seen as more fun. Also camp fires should be able to boost people using an elytra.
i’ll never understand 3:10 because… why should there be only one way to go from place to place? Don’t dictate the way I want to play, that just makes the exploration “problem” even worse because now I can’t ever decide to mix things up a bit
6:40 I agree with most ur points but most servers I've been on in the past while all have had worldborders to keep players closer together and to prevent lag, also on a server that has a lot of ppl who like kinda the drama/pvp side of things, no one wants to give you an advantage. With jet being a content creator I assume he'd be speaking from experiences on content smps like that. The point is still dumb, cause like you know, competition is the point of those kinds of servers.
For the netherite part the upgrade templets only spawns in a treasure bastion one of the 4-5 variants of the bastions so yes it can be a bastion near your nether spawn but the chances of it being a treasure bastion is slim and the closest one can be thousands of blocks away so you have to 1 travel through the dangerous nether 2 if you find one you’ll probably not be ready to loot it because you spent all your resources like food to get there 3 you also need to risk looting it so put the risk of searching for it on top of the risk for looting it will end up in a big gamble so my opinion to “solve” this problem is to just make the upgrade templet able to be found in other types of bastions not only treasure ones
3:36 I would just have a "line" of horses to get around that lol Basically, right as each horse runs out of stamina, I'd arrive at a fence post with another horse, allowing me to continue with very little interruptioni.
I think you were definitely right about the elytra but he was right about the horses. it's fine to nerf the horses as long the elytra is also nerfed heavily like making it so that fireworks don't work like you said
That would ruin the elytra and I think that is a terrible idea. Most people can't even get it since most people haven't even beaten the dragon. It is a late game item only acquired by more dedicated players
@@kyle--859 mfw when i don't balance the part of the game only for "dedicated players". you understand there's a lot of people who play the game, so the small fraction of dedicated players is still many many people?
@@logosking2848 That would ruin the game for dedicated players. I took my time and spent hours exploring on horseback. Now it is really nice to just be able to quickly fly to my desired location
@@kyle--859 it would make playing varied playstyles more viable. all nerfs "hurt" the player that is playing them, but overpowered items makes games less fun because it locks you into the one particular playstyle of using that item and makes everything else unfun.
i just thought of a great nerf for the elytra, just make it so it starts of with like with like 0.3 durability per second and slowly as you go quicker/higher it takes more durability until it like caps at 1.5/s
i think the elytra is fine, it helped me SO MUCH, and i think we just need the end update. if it is harder to get because of the mobs and challenges, or maybe you need to do more steps to get to an elytra, it's going to be more rewarding to get it.
actually the netherite upgrade template is a big problem i own a server and it is definitely an issue and new players are still joining the server (which was made 2 years ago) my solution i did is periodically resetting bastion upgrade template chests once every few months
Ah the day when opinions can be wrong has come huh? Cause personally, i agree with that video. After ive got everything i need, theres no reason to explore. Most places dont have incentives to explore again like the deep dark or end.
yes its a sandbox game so that also means that its not wrong to not want to stay at a base the entire time. i liked exploring in minecraft and it was, alright. but this mod kinda just helps make it exciting. yet again this is an opinion video that doesnt mean its wrong if it doesnt line up with YOUR opinion
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Gotta love Minecraft videos that act like all the players play completely optimally and speedrun everything in 25 minutes. Most people don't beat the dragon, let alone get an Elytra.
don't forget how one of dream's arguments against the iceologer was that the mob could make speedrunning in mountains harder, ignoring that literally any other hostile mob that isn't a blaze or enderman already was an obstacle for speedrunning
annoying speedrunners and youtubers like jetstarfish only think of minecraft as a RPG in which you NEED to become more and more powerful instead of the game being a sandbox that gives you the freedom to do whatever you want whenever you want
Bruh been playing since 2019 and the dragon is the last thing on my mind
@@peterfamilyguy2040 I'm pretty sure if a run doesn't spawn near an ocean or a village it gets reset anyways, what a lame excuse for ruining that year's mob vote
i literally used to play on creative until 2022
i have never once beaten the game on survival ☠️ nor gotten an elytra ive never flown with it the day it came out. i just play it for fun and get to the diamond-iron stage of the game before making a new world or just taking a break for a few months
Absolutely in LOVE with the new trend of correcting people’s videos, nice to see positivity instead of negativity
The video isn't negativity, it constructive criticism.
@@karlo-lol5935 I know! I think that’s a positive thing, and Jet’s video is negative.
@@Pellogram I'm pretty sure karlo was saying Jet's video wasn't negative.
I love it too, finally
@@Pellogram jet video points a problem and tries to give solutions. It isn't negativity but constructive criticism. Giving solutions he takes the risk of being wrong, but is better than don't giving any idea or saying that everything is good when it isn't.
5:06 the elytra needs no nerfs. It literally a end game item there is no reason to try to restrict its use at that point.
If you choose to use it or not is up to you. Im a builder and elytra are very useful for tall buids.
A lot people forget that if you try to cater to one play style to much you will start hurting the other play style indirectly.
THANK YOU.
The elytra may be OP, but if you really think it needs nerfing, then you should just avoid it. You can choose to do that. That's the beauty of a sandbox game like Minecraft. Nerfing the Elytra will only cause needless drama and complaints from one side of the community since it's a Minecraft building staple at this point.
I think that the elytra is way too op, but nerfing them is difficult, maybe making them stamina dependant, so you can't use them for more than 2 minutes in a row, but can use them to move around your base or watxh and area from the heaven
@@joaquinginestet4813 it a choice to use them. Nobody is forcing you to use them all the time.
I personally do have a elytra but I decide to rather walk and build paths instead of flying most of the time just for the challenge.
This is a sandbox game, you can opt out of using features with in it.
Again this item needs no nerfs because it is found in the endgame portion of the game were the game is soposed to open up more. At that stage of the game there is no reason to keep the player grounded because they have reached there peak in the games progression tree at that point.
It is like the space jump in metroid games were the really op items like it are saved for the end game so it dose not break the early game.
Were else to put the elytra then? It is the furthest away a item can be from the players reach. I think it's in the perfectly right place if you ask me and it's utility for builders is often forgotten about in these conversations about the elytra.
Minecraft survival isn't sandbox @@DiamondDepthYT
@@Random66860it literally is. You feel like a God in your world with powerful items and can literally manipulate spawns, drops, interactions, and only die when it matters to a few mobs and situations like Warden. Now in GTA you don't feel like a God because you can still get killed, arrested from the car, destroyed by tank interactions, sniped by helicopter, outnumbered by gangs and enter a chaotic road chase, in some games drown, caught up in explosion, and i could go on. Minecraft survival is a sandbox game were you create whatever you want aside from command blocks, which don't necessarily make it a sandbox on its ownl
heres an even simpler rebuttal to the netherite upgrade template issue:
mojang knows that structures having already been looted can be an issue, it can be frustrating to have to find the third nearest instead of the nearest structure
...so they added vaults for once-per-player loot in trial chambers. but they specifically didnt call it a Trial Vault or anything, because they've said they want to be able to use it in other structures, such AS the bastion, or heck... for the elytra, even?
@@CreativelyJake yesss that would be swag money
literally the lootr mod
i am convinces they are going to add it to all structures in future since even elytras can be a pain to find on larger multiplayer servers and it sure does a good job to help making obtaining items as a player better, i do hope they will add them in future since thats game changing and would straight up solve all the "problems" mentioned in jets video regarding multiplayer
The real problem with exploration is the inventory. After exploring for a while your inventory will get filled with random stuff that you need. And also beds and phantoms. Because if you sleep in a bed, then sleep in another bed, than break that bed. You will respawn at the world spawn. And you can’t just not sleep in a bed or else phantoms will spawn.
This! , the reason i cant explore is the fear of my inventory filling and having to leave behind stuff
@@Howabouthereand for the bed like they add some kind of sleeping carpet that does not set the spawn point. Also removing the item de spawn when a player dies would help a lot
Donkeys can help with that. Those extra slots are incredibly helpful on a long adventure. Also, if you have silk touch you can use an ender chest for even more storage (which only gets better with shulker boxes)
It's called a ender chest.
Minecraft has a problem with exploration, but it's none of the stuff talked about in this video or in JetStarfish's video. It's the problem that my world is already like 400 mb and it takes FOREVER to back up and I explored so much and it was over a gigabyte so I had to trim over half the chunks to get it to a reasonable file size so now I limit myself on exploration to keep my file size small
Because Minecraft doesn't know what unloading is, everything is saved and processed at once.
That and the fact that you aren't encouraged to travel too far away from your base because there is no easy way back and if you die good luck getting your items back from a million blocks away
@@Nuniixowhat do you mean by that? I thought that the reason for such large file sizes is the fact that Minecraft has to save those chunks as soon as you load them, since there could be some non-naturally generated blocks.
@@Nuniixo Minecraft does unload chunks that aren't in your render distance. You've misunderstood what the issue is... The issue is that every chunk takes up file space, so the more you explore the bigger your world's file size will be (completely unrelated from whether or not the chunks are loaded).
Do you play on a toaster? In what world a 1GB save size is a problem?
2:23
Naw bro.
Horses did not make the Minecart obsolete.
Because minecarts can be used to transport mobs like villagers, all the best using a horse or elytra to transport the villager from village to base for your iron farm or trading hall
Not to mention Redstone farms... Most farms just wouldn't be possible without Hopper Minecarts.
Transport villagers is not exploration. I could make transportation system for villagers with piston or water, it's possible, but it is not their main purpose. As well, as boat's main purpose is exploration on boat, not entity transportation or Nether travel. If main reason of overall existing is suck, you can't simply "but it could do this", since THIS is not main reason of this item's existence.
100%. My base is somewhat far inland from the shore so I wouldn't have been able to get villagers to it without minecarts.
@@RastrKrok I don't see how the minecart has ever been an exploration feature personally. You can't use it without laying down rails, and you can't do that until you've already gotten to the location you want to get to.
I have to disagree with nerfing the elytra. The problem isn't that the elytra is op, it's not even that the other forms of transportation are slower. For me and many others the problem is that the other options are just less fun and more tedious. Nerfing the elytra wouldn't encourage people to use other options unless you make it just as boring to use. The solution should be to make everything else more fun. For example, when playing the create mod I don't use elytra because trains are just more fun even though they're objectively worse as the require a lot of resources. So instead minecarts should be linkable to make a train with furnace minecarts at the front functioning as an engine. If I could make a massive railway system then I would rarely ever use elytra.
In the end, Minecraft is a sandbox game and the player should be able to choose the transportation the have the most fun with. The whole problem with JetStarfish's video is that he's trying to force his playstyle onto everyone else. And nerfing the elytra would be doing the same thing.
that’s true, there wouldn’t be a need to nerf the elytra if other forms of transport were better
I’d love to have more fun minecarts cuz I like building roller coasters with them?
They should be faster but limited to the resources you need to craft them.
Also add copper to the construction.
and minecarts should be faster. They are a bit slow
@@Zaylic honestly i think the elytra is balanced in its obtainability. sure some players just immediately rush to the end to get it but most players havent actually beaten the dragon at all making it so the elytra is completely off the table. horses are still balanced because theyre easy to get early game and see alot of use because of that, you cant find an elytra just roaming around in some fields 20 blocks from where you spawn. its like arguing iron armor is useless because netherite exists. also, minecarts have their niche of mob transport. imagine making a villager trading hall without them. horses have their niche early game, minecarts have their niche in mob transport and the elytra is all rounder balanced by its hard obtainability, a bit like the rod of discord from terraria
I don't even know how you could make the other modes of transportation better besides adding ways to make them faster. Honestly, I don't think they're as bad as people say they are. Yeah, Minecarts on normal rails are kinda slow, but with powered rails, they're quite fast. Also, I do like the idea of minecarts being able to couple each other.
I do think minecarts should get more use as a mode of transport as a reward for the player setting up a whole track, but honestly I don't think you need to nerf the elytra or even horses to do that. Right now I'd say that minecarts have the niche use of being one of the most convenient and reliable ways to transfer items around, but there's pretty much no point using it for travel. It needs something unique, like the ability to jump carts like in donkey kong, or to more easily control tracks to always go where you want without doing a bunch of redstone work. Not saying it has to be either of those things specifically, I just think something is missing that could make them more unique and worthwhile. Also, somewhat unrelated to what I was saying but I wanted to point this out:
"Make the elytra 3x rarer!"
"The netherite upgrade template is too rare for multiplayer!"
Yeah, his idea for the elytra is definitely half-baked, and even that's being a bit generous lol. Multiplayer severs are still all going to have fully geared players, no mater how rare the gear is. I do think the netherite upgrade is kind of a bad item but that's a different issue.
based and truth pilled
they basically said "what's multiplayer" and "multiplayer matters" in the same video
Honestly I feel like a fix that makes sense for the elytra is to just at more stuff to the sky that make fly long distance a bit more difficult, not making it impossible to fly long distances but just making flying more of a required skill. I don't know if that makes any sense.
Idea: elytra slower that it
they shouldn't nerf elytras, they should buff minecarts
Jetstarfish: “I believe we can solve this problem without using racial slurs”
Zaylic: pauses video
Me: 😱
Good vid. You forgot to mention the mod to "fix" all of those issues that he was trying to SELL, which is ILLEGAL as it breaks the rules of Minecrafts EULA.
@@carlislepoe5966 lol read the pinned comment
@@Zaylic oh lol, thanks. :)
6:39, lots of multiplayer servers have their worldborders relatively close to 0,0 so all available bastions COULD get fully looted. If u already pointed this out in the video then pls lmk
Most multiplayer servers also allow players to setup shops so you can always get the template
5:05 that would mean going back to 1.9 elytra when you couldnt use fireworks, it was nothing else but a pretty useless curiosity, that would be the worst possible way of nerfing the elytra
we have the problem with no netherite upgrade templates on our sever because the border is 15k by 15k blocks and its more than 1 netherite block to buy one.
@@Hero_Of_TheSea that’s wild yo, i forgot that some servers do world border shenanigans, do you guys have enough elytras?
@@Zaylic yes, only because the admins reset the end every month
@@Hero_Of_TheSea ah that makes sense
I don't think we need to nerf elytra
It is end game item and it is fine. People complain about elytra being too op when they do best strat to progress to get that end game item @-@. That is weird. I don't know how to explain it cuz i'm not good at English but i think u guys know what i mean.
When u get elytra, the only thing left is building pretty thing in your world, play it like sandbox game and not play it like rpg game :))
there is no "play this like a sandbox" or "play this like an rpg" at all,stop making excuses
@@Random66860 Play it like a sandbox because it is one. I get you're no older than 13 so this is hard to comprehend, but when people tell you it's a sandbox game, you wont change their mind with "nuh uh"
@@notnicknamed I'm 15 years old, and I've already had a lot of discussions about minecraft powerscaling and in the minecraft coommunity, so I have a lot of experience with minecraft, don't underestimate me
Minecraft is a sandbox game at its heart. This means Mojang will never really want to dictate a certain way to play the game, as it'd isolate a large part of their audience. I think this is also why the gameplay is so "short." The progression of Minecraft is basic for a reason, you're supposed to choose your own pace. You can beat the game in a few hours or you can take it slow or you could just explore the world.
The game needs some basic balancing changes, yes, but not to the degree that Jet makes it seem in his original video.
honestly i wish mojang leans into that idea more, what if you can change which structure should spawn and its rarity, maybe even the same with ores, more options would be nice to encourage that mindset, i recently also played a mod which REDUCES the amount of structures that spawn in the world and honestly i had way more fun, of course it wouldent be the same for everyone, so i think tweaking it to your liking is the way to go!
You can never put the blame on mojang making the way minecraft works, because at the end of the day its the player that explores and decides where to life and how to play minecraft. Deciding either to settle somewhere or te constantly keep exploring.
you can lead a horse to exploring, but you cant make it explore
Nah you can definitely blame mohang for not giving enough reason to explore.
Slight correction, you said that elytras have limited quanitity on servers but later said that netherite templates didn't because you can explore more.
you can craft templates you can’t craft elytras
@@Zaylic But you can fly into eltyra spawns, and not for templates. the main complaint on servers is world borders and greedy players. do agree on the points, just not those statements added on them.
simple fix> make Minecarts faster than horses(leave horses as be) and rails cheaper. and nerf elytra
I think they nerfed elytras in the Java Combat snapshots. They made it slower (which indirectly made it easier to manuever when gliding) but also changed it so that the durability of elytra only gets reduced when using rockets. Idk.
now that you mentioned, slower but easier to manuever is a great niche for elytra. It would be more useful for reaching high places and less useful for distance traveling.
Get 32 rails instead of 16 might be enough for me to use them.
Yeah but the faster minecarts can mess with redstone
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Right away I think his point is there should be reasons to build other bases in other biomes not necessarily constantly exploring there
Mojang has said several times that minecraft survival is about survival
I can steal a single potato from a village and that will keep me alive for the rest of the game
@@aranti8247 so what?
@@Random66860 minecraft as a survival game doesn't work that well either. with a shield, any kind of weapon (even wooden ones) and a crop (wich works as an unlimited food source) you can basically survive forever
@@aranti8247 whats wrong with surviving forever?
@@aranti8247 whats wrong with surviving forever?
nah respectfully i disagree with the eltya nerf tactic. nerfing the eltyra will just make it useless especially the nerf you suggested to make it not work with firework. Who tf uses an elytra without fireworks that solution is wayy worse than to the lower spawn rate of them and just sends us back before elytras worked with fireworks(they were shit and noone really used them) so its ironic how your calling his solution awful. Without the fireworks the elytra is just a reskinned parachute that can glide you to safety... What an ingenious solution. People still found ways to fly with it anyways like the punch bow method but thats just downright awful gameplay.
The real problem is how f*cking quick the game is so you can get elytras in a couple hours. Its just another aspect of minecrafts progression issue. The harder the item is to obtain the great the reward should be right? The problem with the elytra is that its too easy to obtain. instead of being a legendary loot you get from grinding through 3 dimensions its a legendary loot you can get in a day. Your solution is the easiest but also the worse possible solution, actually making the game both harder and longer to complete is the better solution imo instead of keeping the broken system we have now where the end and the nether are both jokes.
another one i disagree with is the defence of the netherite template arguement.
your first point-"there is no way every bastion has been looted"
yes but most of the time a lot of them are looted and you have to go tens of thousands of blocks away from spawn to find unlooted bastions on large server similar to the end ships. You shouldn't be punished for just joining the server late by having to grind harder than everyone else for the best armour set or trade for it which brings me on to my second point.
your second point-"you can trade for it"
Its just naive to think on every server people are willing to trade. Some servers are just more hostile than others thats a fact(like some anarchy servers for example) and even if eventually get someone to trade with you why are you forced to trade in the first place. This gives early players such an unfair advantage and leverage in negotiating a price for it (people arent gonna trade it for just 7 diamonds theres no value added for them).
what your saying is basically late players on a server you have 2 options to obtain netherite armour. Search for unlooted bastions for hours or trade which may not be even possible. Sh*t solution to encourage "exploration"
I have a better idea and its simpler to. Just make dungeon chests (like in bastions nether fortresses end ships) different to regular chests in that they have personalised loot so every person who loots it gets there own loot. SIMPLE. Dont say thats impossible cause there are mods which do that. I think that was the whole premise of the stone chests that mojang where going to add for the ancient cities and they have implemented a similar solution in trial chambers with the vaults and i think that should just be universal for all dungeons to avoid this nonsense.
rest of the vid is good tho. keep up the good work.
*>nerfing the eltyra will just make it useless especially the nerf you suggested to make it not work with firework. Who tf uses an elytra without fireworks that solution is wayy worse than to the lower spawn rate of them and just sends us back before elytras worked with fireworks(they were shit and noone really used them)*
you're right, i definitely should have given a more thorough response in the video, my main point was that his solution definitely could have been a lot better
*>The real problem is how f*cking quick the game is so you can get elytras in a couple hours*
true, but i dont think that there is a simple way of fixing this because the game is so short anyways
*>yes but most of the time a lot of them [bastions] are looted and you have to go tens of thousands of blocks away from spawn to find unlooted bastions on large server*
i guess it depends how large specifically. less than 10 players it shouldnt be a problem at all, but if there are 50 or more then yes finding an unlooted bastion would be very frustrating. however the more people there are on the server the more likely they would be willing to trade their upgrade template. i still dont see a reason why nobody on a large server would be willing to trade a template for it's crafting materials. large """"""survival""""" servers however typically have a bunch of annoying intrusive plugins, one of which typically is a shop/trading system, which does fix the scarcity problem. the only time where i think his argument is completely valid is like you said, anarchy servers, it would probably take more time to get a template on one of those.
*>its just naive to think on every server people are willing to trade. Some servers are just more hostile than others thats a fact*
eh it's possible i overestimated how easy it might be, but the framing that its "impossible" to get if you join late is still incorrect. it will be harder, sure. but thats true of getting any resource on a server where you join late
*>what your saying is basically late players on a server you have 2 options to obtain netherite armour. Search for unlooted bastions for hours or trade which may not be even possible. Sh*t solution to encourage "exploration"*
maybe i wasnt clear enough in the video but the reason i said those things was to counter the idea that getting netherite is "impossible" if you join late. harder? yes, but not impossible. i also wouldn't be opposed to making the upgrade template come from another more renewable source too in order to help multiplayer, maybe a rare drop from piglins (like what they did with soul speed).
*>I have a better idea and its simpler to. Just make dungeon chests (like in bastions nether fortresses end ships) different to regular chests in that they have personalised loot so every person who loots it gets there own loot.*
i completely agree! they did something similar to this with the trial vaults and i think its a great solution and should also apply to other structure loot chests (maybe not all of them but definitely the bastion and end ship at the very least)
*>rest of the vid is good tho. keep up the good work.*
thank you! and thank you for taking the time to leave a comment with your critiques, i really do appreciate it a lot
His solution is still awful. Making end ships more rare doesn't make getting it more difficult, it's just more tedious work.
Mojang's solution of fireworks costing durability was pretty good because then you'd use your fireworks more sparingly and when you actually needed them, rather than using them all the time. You'd use horses or soul sand paths or even buffed minecarts for shorter transport between areas.
Horses for exploration are only early game and them getting replaced by elytras later IS fine
@@hhff8534 fully agree.
Or maybe multiplayer just sucks, why would someone ever wants to play in a server of 40 people that don't let you do nothing but run cause they don't want you to explore the world
Exploration in minecraft isn't perfect, it would need more reward as it currently has, but you say it all : most of the things he tells us that "are a problem " are not, and why would you need to make the progression linear and not be able to go to an ancient city before fighting the ender dragon? If you finished the game you're ply so advanced you don't need these loots that much...
Yeah. TBH the ancient city is a early-midgame structure at the earliest
@@VectorJW9260 True. And their loots aren't that good they should be more common
Locking the ancient city away from early game is a stupid idea. Ancient city loot would be useless by the late game
I went into this video expecting to hate it, cause I liked the one to which you’re responding.
However, your points were mostly right.
I do think changing resource distributions in different biomes is a good, thing it extends the endgame on singleplayer by making outposts and transportation between the main base and these outposts viable, and on multiplayer, it promotes trade between players who built their bases in different biomes.
With the horse, I totally agree his solution is annoying AF, but something similar I thought of (having to feed the horse or let it eat grass every thousand blocks or so) could cause a similar feeling without being completely cringe.
So funny thing about resource distributions in biomes (because I also said this)... he flat out lied there, different biomes do have different ore distributions.
@@foureyesisafish7968 Yes, a few do. Saying that that should be done more is not an unreasonable suggestion though.
@@haph2087 I mean, it’s not but that’s not how it was framed
@@foureyesisafish7968 I don't defend that guy's framing.
All we need is a rocket cooldown of like 8-10 secs on the elytra.
that would be good too
I have another Idea.The idea is to make other transpo more relevant by nerfing elytra, and buffing the other transport.We should nerf Membrane drop, by remove the mending enchantment and make the dura of elytra twice as fast in overworld and trice as fast in nether.This would force players to use elytra only in dire circumstances(like being chased by players or falling to the void) this would also discouraged players to use elytra in the nether as it's quite op.By minecart I agree what the vid says make minecart faster and make rails cheap.And I want to add another Idea it's by making minecart in nether much faster .And for horse I suggest instead of making horse like what the vid said.What if we put a hunger bar for horse but much more slower than players hunger bar.And for the boat they are okay but I suggest nerf their speed on ice.
@@n4mele_c3r63forcing players? in a sandbox game where even in survival, their own world, they feel like a God? it's always players like you who ruin fun for other people, who actually enjoy Minecraft for what it is
@@n4mele_c3r63here is a simple solution. If you don't like using mending, elytra, membranes, fireworks, don't. Others don't too? don't use it. problem solved
You are wasting a ton of rockets if you use them quicker than that, that solves nothing except making the elytra suck at escaping holes
One Piece reference 0:04
It's literally a game for people of all ages to do and play how they want. Be a farmer. Be a industrialist. Capitalist etc. Just like Lego the limit is your imagination.
Basically no need to debate just play the game and have fun at your own pace.
@@averageartist1101 😭🙏❌❌
No estoy de acuerdo del todo. Claro que es un juego Sandbox, pero eso no significa que hay mecánicas que lo pueden hacer más o menos aburridos.
Después de 10 años jugando Minecraft estoy profundamente aburrido de sus mecánicas, quiero cosas nuevas pero sin instalar 10 mods.
@@thennk9714 I'm sorry but i really have no idea what you said.
@@averageartist1101 he said something to the effect of “of course it’s a sandbox game, but after 10 years of playing it gets boring and i want there to be more features”
@@Zaylic Thank you so much.
I also agree on that some more features could be implemented maybe a few fixes for bedrock if possible but we all know bedrock will never be fixed.
Nearby bastions getting looted is a true issue. Despite you cab trade can trade, it's still a problem because there is still a chance that you can't buy a template (very player dependent)
Another issue is with the old worlds because all looted bastions will have no templates
very well put together
thgank you big dawg
4:29 i forgot to add that the one tweet he shows here literally has zero likes 💀🙏
I swear I detest players like JetStarfish. "This item isn't something to be used as armor or a weapon?!?!?! Useless!!!!! Decorative blocks????? What's that?"
Here is how we fix elytra, instead of having rockets be so readily available for elytra fuel, players have to collect dragon's breath and fuse it with a rocket in order to have viable rocket fuel otherwise right clicking on a rocket mid air with elytra just causes it to explode and disable the elytra.
Also disable the ender dragon's ability to break blocks, or add new dragon arena structures in other parts of the end, so players can still build their nice end-spawn bases.
Further more for multiplayer, I think trial spawners should be a new feature in revamped minecraft structures and in the revamped end, after defeating a mini-boss of some kind players get an end city key which allows them to get a guaranteed elytra. Dungeons and Taverns knows what they are doing. Renewable sources for rare loot.
Okay here's my idea to improve minecarts:
Take the existing minecart connection code that's been in the game since Alpha v1.0.14, and fix it so the trains are consistent, and make it so furnace minecarts dont randomly lose speed just because they turned a corner
And finally make it so furnace minecarts have an interface showing how much coal is inside them rather than accepting one coal and running for 5 minutes
The code to make trains is already in the game, people beg and beg to be able to make trains
This would make it so cool to make actual train stations and actually make long didtance trains viable without needing to AFK at a zombified piglin farm for hours
I don't know if anyone said anything about this yet, but for Java Minecraft there is a mod that nerfs the elytra in a really unique and clever way, that still makes it viable called Aileron. It removes the ability to use fireworks, but replaces it with the ability to use campfires as updrafts, and the more campfires you have in one place, the stronger the updraft. Not only that, it adds 2 exclusive enchantments to the elytra as well. Smokestack, which lets you build up a limited amount of boosts you can use mid air, and Cloudskipper, which makes the elytra fly better at higher and higher altitudes. Now, instead of just building a gunpowder and sugarcane farm for fireworks, you build routes of bonfires and watchtowers that let you fly long distances, making the elytra require as much infrastructure as a minecart system, while still being a fast, endgame form of transportation.
The only problem with exploration is that theres nothing to see other than terrain and a few structures
1. Minecarts are still useful in redstone contraptions. Like they aren't really used for transport which sucks but they have a new niche to fill. And I think that's the problem with horses. I think giving all the horses a 3x3 inventory space and then just having mules and donkeys carry more would give them a little bit of extra utility. Also I really like the idea of llamas being able to only carry one type of item but a very large quantity of them. Like imagine if instead of a llama being able to carry at most 15 stacks of items, they'd be able to carry an entire double chest of like one item. So if you wanted to go build a castle somewhere, you could load up all of your llamas with cobblestone and then go there and you have all of what you need without having to go back and forth or rely on end game items like shulker boxes.
2. The elytra being overpowered is fine, because it's an end game item. Minecraft isn't really built with it in mind, so you never actually feel like you're missing it unless you get it really early and decide to use it as a crutch for a very long time. But if you do want to balance it I would personally just add some flying hostile mobs that only really attack you if you're near them and flying.
3. I don't like the netherite upgrade tablet. I don't like the idea of netherite to begin with, but I especially don't like upgrade tiers being locked behind a specific item that's only function is for crafting one item number one type of item. I generally dislike items that only have one use like a lot of the potion ingredients or rabbit hide.
This may be a hot take, but I don't think Elytras are really a problem. People always talk about P R O G R E S S I O N when complaining about Minecraft... But those very same people also complain about the Elytra? Is it not _supposed_ to outclass other transportation types? Its end game loot, and it just makes the game more enjoyable. It cuts out the tedium, and in my opinion, that doesn't need to be nerfed. Tedium should never be a requirement.
The REAL reason people don't use Minecarts or Horses is because of the downsides that come with them. Minecarts are expensive, and require a ton of setup to use (placing down rails for hours SUCKS). Meanwhile I never uses Horses because 1) They can't cross water. 2) They're so big that they can't get through trees very easily, and 3) They limit your abilities and make you unable to mine things.
The reason people don't use these is because they _add_ tedium to the game. Because they have limitations that don't need to be there. Why do they need to have some downside? Why shouldn't they just be an upgrade to your base abilities? Do these things even _need_ to be "balanced" if it just takes away from player enjoyment???
(Also a 4th issue with horses, if you're playing on a server with sethomes, you can't teleport your horse with you... It doesn't effect vanilla, obviously, but that's another huge reason why I never use horses).
There's also the fact that Minecarts are GAME CHANGERS when it comes to redstone farms. You'd be hard pressed to find any hyper efficient farms that don't utilize Hopper Minecarts in some way.
6:12 actually he is somewhat correct here because on really large servers such as 2b2t you would have to travel millions of blocks just to find a bastion that hasn't been raided. Also on one of these servers (especially pvp servers) players who have obtained these are unlikely to give them up and will instead attempt to destroy all of them so that they can create a monopoly.
Look man he’s just trying to feed his family
.. but WHY nerf the elytra at all?????? It's an end-game item. It takes a lot of risk to get it, and once you have it all it can do is let you glide. Yeah you can fly with rockets. But guess what? ROCKETS REQUIRE RESOURCES!!
The average player is not going to build massive paper and gunpowder farms in order to supply their endless flying needs! To the average player, once they get the elytra (if they even bother at all because a large amount of casual players don't even make it to the end IN THE FIRST PLACE) they are going to use it sparringly, because gunpowder is annoying to obtain organically, and paper takes a while to grow.
THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO THINKS THIS SHIT IS OP ARE THE ONES THAT RUIN THEIR OWN FUN WITH FARMS. STOP RUINING THIS SHIT FOR EVERYONE ELSE BY CONSTANTLY DEBUFFING AND MAKING SHIT RARER!
"Oooh totems of undying are so abundant we should debuff and make them rarer, rockets are too easy to make, piglins are too op, villagers are too op"
How are you obtaining so many.
"Oh I built a farm for them"
?????????????????????????????? Where's the issue?????
@@TheLeafcuter rockets require minimal resources. kill creepers for five minutes and mine some sugar cane and your set for days. it should not be that easy
@@TheLeafcuter you don’t need a farm for rockets or totems to have an over abundance of them, that’s literally the problem
@@Zaylic Depends on how much you use the elytra. I used a whole stack of flight duration 3 rockets to find a Treasure bastion. Luckily I had a creeper farm, but that took hours to make
You are so true bro, except for the "there is no bastion problem" claim. SMPs love to make world borders smaller than they actually are. For example: in my friend's SMP, the world border is only like 4096 blocks and the nether border is even smaller. I think it's like 500 something blocks
I actually don't hate the horse stamina bar idea, I'm on board with letting my lil buddy rest a bit while exploring
Also I didn't know the elytra was a problem since I never use those lol
Elytra doesn’t need a nerf learn now and learn it fast with the amount of work you have to put in it’s perfect
What makes Minecraft, undertale, and other loved games good is to break the rules, and minecraft is actually a Survival game it actually focuses on creativity and upgrading your area in you best way , and this what makes Minecraft Minecraft , and also Minecraft added thinks that literally no one wanted, and i think thats what makes interesting to explore, or idk just add end update f*cking Mojang
Remove the ability to add unbreaking or mending to the elytra however add the ability to add prot as compensation while still making it worse for fighting than a chest plate
who the hell even said exploration is fine? it's never fine and never has been, jetstarfish is right on every point and there's no need to explain why. every player is stuck on this stupid loop.
the main problem is that it's so fucking bland u just take ur horse or just use the elytra and wander around till u find a structure that u can loot in a min or two, don't even get me started with the inventory problems.
Minecarts could be faster; but they're hands free, can be ridden afk for long distances, and are useful to transport mobs & goods especially villagers, not to mention both speed and power rails can be duplicated in the current vanilla game if you don't like the price, just like carpets.
Minecarts are also great in a highly developed server like mine, with many long roads and spread out cities in different places, because they can be marked with signs and lead directly to a destination without getting lost or needing a map. And later with enough effort an ice highway with boats can be an extremely fast method of transportation and upgrade to an existing rail network if you really want to save time.
To summarize I think there are more uses for any particular thing than any one person can recognize and that's why useless is a word I save only for people 😂
I didnt really agree with jet's take on the ancient city either. The fact he left out enchanted books and swift sneak when talking about loot tables to make it sound more boring was.. a lil odd. Theeen he said he wanted to lock it behind beating the dragon, which is a stupid idea because the whole point of the ancient city is to find it WHILE EXPLORING. I liked the xp thing tho its like the xp tome.
I kinda agree that the solutions are bad but i still think that the problems are real. Like in the first segment or chapter you are saying that players should spend more time on building then exploring, and if we want to fix exploration thats bad. I think that the elytra should be removed and i dont care if the community gets angry, its op as fuck and too easy to get. About the horse and minecart problem, i have no clue how one can fix that, the minecart one is pretty good but the horse stamina thing isnt. And about the multiplayer thing most servers have a limited nether (4k-4k or smth like that) so it can be a problem to get netherite templates, though the player trading thing should work. So in the end i think that you are the building type but that still wont fix the exploration problems.
Thoughts on his attempts to monetize his suggestions?
@@SparkBruh based & hustlepilled, he spent hundreds of hours on his video and deserves to be paid generously for it
What are your thoughts on the recent takes/response videos such as The Hayze?
@@SparkBruh WOW, i just watched The Hayze’s video, she caught so many lies that i just glossed right over. her video could have been produced a bit better but in terms of actual substance she blows my video out of the park.
i think im gonna have to make a follow up video to this because i completely missed the most important parts. when you asked me about him attempting to monetize it i thought you meant from youtube ad revenue, i completely forgot about the mod he made, that’s genuinely so scummy
Yeah I was very concerned by the statement you made when I asked the question. lol
Glad to hear you'll make a follow up video on the subject matter!
Also side tangent, but he decided to backtrack and only recently made the mod free.
3:50 actually based on what he said, his suggestion seems like the opposite of what he wants
If he wants to encourage long travels, maybe do that the lomger the horse runs, the fast it is
"OmG i LiKeD mY cOmMeNt" "FiRsT fIrSt FiRsT"
Honestly if you don't focus on it, everything's fine and good.
I actually disagree with the netherite upgrade thing. Don’t get me wrong, jet is a scammer and makes horrendous points. But saying that the Minecraft world is infinite as a justification for this is ridiculous. If I’m playing on said large server, I don’t want to travel 3000 blocks in the nether while the others on the server first were able to get their templates within a 500 block radius of the portal spawn. Not to mention the hardcore explorers that loot everything even perhaps thousands of blocks away. People can be competitive depending on the type of server, so it is definitely possible that you wont be able to trade for one. I think using vaults with keys inside the bastions would fix the problem entirely. so that every person can get an upgrade template from the closest bastion instead of disadvantaging some players.
As a solo player, I think a problem with exploration is when a new biome comes out and I want to get that wood (i.e mahogany wood) in a world that I play in I have to walk so far just to maybe find one. Also mojang please make it so horses to swim please
1:18 art
@@WICKEDMagma yeah i’m widowy a fwiggin awtist
As always it seems, these people that have this view of Minecraft only view the game from a speedrunner's perspective.
Minecraft exploration is endless.
A seed I had for a town server I had created but not really a proper server cause I'm not that technical cause I'm on ps4.
Maybe south or. East. Or north. West?? There is a woodland mansion on a giant tall monolith of cobblestone! Where you can easily see the mansion in the forest below or when you're pulling up in a boat. It was a crazy thing I saw.
While his video has some very cool and interesting suggestions. But the fact that a video was made on Minecraft having an exploration problem, whilst the game essentially doesn't force a playstyle upon you, much less to explore for the sake of it, makes the video sound redundant. As it has been pointed out before. Minecraft isn't an RPG, or an exploration game, it's a sandbox game. As long as it continues to be that, it's not useful to complain about a problem which doesn't even exist, taking into context the game we are talking about in this first place.
You made a very good video. Congrats ^^
I haven't seen that video in my recommendations "a dozen times" I've however seen videos like YOURS in my recommendations a DOZEN TIMES
Jesus christ why do people love painting themselves as saints at any given moment?
I can see the netherite upgrade being a problem in massive multiplayer survival servers, but if you're in a chill private server with your friends, it's just kind of rude to hog netherite upgrade templates and never share.
Bruhhh i never watched the original video because i knew it was going to be bad but his points MAKE NO SENSE. Oh nobody uses the horse so lets nerf it, oh elytras are easy to get (7 hours searching for an end city with a boat) so lets make the search 60 hours instead (after you obtain it nothing else changes)
6:37 ok i disagree with you in this one, every fucking bastion on my 9 people server i find is already looted 😭 still the easiest fix is to make them use vaults instead of chests
but also he forgets that many things like trims and wood require you to explore, so idk what his problem is
If elytras need a nerf then my solution is add an encumberment system so the more items you carry the harder it is to fly until you cant fly at all. This make elytras more suited to quick travel and surveying the areas or simply getting around base fast but isnt designed for transporting everything or gathering huge amounts of materials. This leaves room for minecarts and horses to be more suited to transporting large amounts of materials (and mobs) for when you find an area you want to start harvesting at.
honestly not sure how that would feel in practice but i think its the least offensive way to nerf something that lets them all have something to contribute without removing all the benefits entirely.
again on the minecart thing, people always seem to neglect the part where minecarts transport mobs (which boats have been nerfed on) whereas no other form of transportation is capable of doing... so realistically minecarts dont need fixing all that much.
that's an amazing video I would have never guessed you only have 2k subs
thank you so much! :D
Literally all he needed to say for the elytra was that firework rockets uses a flat amount of durability per usage and that would easily fix the elytra;
By having it be so the rockets do a flat amount of durability per usage (say like 2-3 durability per usage), it still allows firework rockets to be used, but it also makes it more of a risk/reward rather than being able to spam firework rockets all the time.
Okay so let me say what how I would fix shit. The minecarts speed should definitely be buffed as well as making them connect to one another. Then for the horse. The horse itself is pretty fine but the thing that nerfs it is the Minecraft generation itself. Most of the trees are way too short to navigate with a horse and that's one of the main reasons the horse is bad. The fix for this would be a general generation update, aka updating the biomes by making trees taller etc. And finally the elytra. The one that puts all of them into f tier. I can't agree with you about them making fireworks useless for elytras. The fix here would be to decrease the amount of boost each rocket gives or something like that. But hey that's just my take on this
i couldn't think of anything sorry ✨
legend 😂‼️💯
1:18 why he wants that exploration is needed and cool and a core part but there is no reason for it?
One way they can fix the elytra would be allowed them to craft, now make it so you need to get 3 items to get the elytra,
1: dragon wings scales, each time when u kill a dragon it will drop 2-4 scale and you need 4 to craft one
2: like the axo skeleton of for the elytra from the end city
3: something to keep them together like slime balls,string
So 4 dragon wings scale on both sides in the top middle the axo skeleton of the Elyra and middle a slime blocks or string to make a elytra
Idk i just made thia things up while writing the comments 😂
that could be cool, but it wouldn’t quite make sense considering the fact that Elytra is greek for beetle/bug wings lol
6:42
Clearly you’ve never played on a public SMP, because as anyone who has will tell you, you need to go out hundreds of thousands of blocks just to find one unlooted structure. Is spending hours of your life just trying to get the template, not to mention the actual mining, just to get slightly better armor?
currently playing on a public smp and that has not been a problem for anyone
How long has this SMP been going for? I’ve played on numerous ones that have been going for years and this is a major problem.
@@Fresher-qx9rk couple months. if your smp has been going on for years why do you need to search for new bastions for templates?
@@Zaylic Well, when you have a limited resource that takes hours of peoples time to get a single one and is expensive to duplicate, that begins driving up the price of said resource. A prime example is a superflat server I play on, where diamonds are a very rare commodity which can only be obtained via structures. Because of this, what would normally be maybe 20 minutes of mining for enough diamonds to duplicate the upgrade template becomes 3 hours of work needed. Also, the fact that your server you play on is so new means that there hasn’t been a long enough time for all structures close to spawn to get raided.
@@Zaylic Also its especially difficult for new players
You could limit a stack of rockets to 16. Some people might just find this annoying but it would surely help
i mean there are some improvements that could be done to exploration, like a overhaul to biome specific structures like the desert temple, or a touch up of the end, and some ideas he brings arent all that bad, minecart my beloved. but a lot of his takes dont make sense
to be honest, every idea that he made suck ass because it breaks the point that he’s trying to make, especially with the Elytra
the best way to nerf the elytra is simple
give it a niche, if horses have the exploring niche and minecarts have the going place to place niche then give the elytra a quick repositioning and vertical movement niche which all you would have to do it make it less good overtime, personally i would do this by nerfing its durability a bit and maybe add a enchantment that gives you more fine controls with it or makes it so you don't take damage while hitting a wall or the floor and then make that enchantment not be able to go with unbreaking or hell just remove unbreaking from being able to go on it cause it can't actually break, this means on long trips you have to repair it by waiting for phantoms or finding a quick exp source both which could take awhile in some random part of the world far away from your base which makes it better the closer you are to established locations with some infrastructure.
I love both video's opinions, I also love his editing.
“i promise i’ll get another vid out this year”
not to get ambitious, but maybe even two…
Upload schedule following Mojang's update schedule frfr
6:22 prolly he was thinking 2b2t
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this video is actually like a really good watch lol, I'm subbing!
3:50 They can just add lots of small "loot" structurs here and there
considering the fact that most structures arent worth stopping for, i doubt that this would help
@@ZaylicSo make structures that are worth stopping for
Agree with your criticism. JetStarFish did make some good points but those takes were kinda dumb ngl. I think his idea for the horse could work though with some tweaks or so and the issue with the elytra is well, alot more complicated than just to nerf it. Yeah Jet's idea for the elytra is just dumb on so many levels but I think the elytra should have its own video like he said
I do think exploration is a bit flawed right now compared to old versions in that... Biome generation is very... Predictable. Thats my only real gripe, its pretty rare to see a desert near a snow biome compared to very old versions.
I played with a friend once and legitimately an area of 5k by 5k blocks around spawn were warm biomes ONLY.
That's because they added temperatures to bones and biomes only spawn next to biomes with similar temperatures. I like the change tbh
@@kyle--859 yeah I know and I personally think it's an awful change at least in its current state with how easy it is to just get only warm or cold biomes, it's awful for exploration because you CA end up going for thousands of blocks and not find the biome you want
@@antynomity But it just felt weird seeing an ice spiked biome next to a dessert
Honestly I've had a preety good elytra nerf in mind for a while, make elytras have no durability, as much as a wooden tool, you can still use it early game but it's gonna break after flying for 5 mins. But when you get into the late game, you'll have access to mending and unbreaking. Though those 2 enchantments aren't enough by themselves, so you would need xp bottles which you get from villagers, this is a late game item.
And for people who like speedrunning everything in minecraft getting a villager trading hall won't take them long, so they can stay happy with their elytras and max armor and stuff, I think this is a preety good balance to elytras.
that could work, i think another solution could also be making it so you cant repair it with mending or add unbreaking to it. forcing the player to perserve their phantom membranes
I think the exploration is fine, the main problem is that there isnt much to incentivise the player to travel to different parts of the world, the main reason why you want to travel is to look for strongholds and materials for builds. Most structures are pointless as the loot is reletively the same and will be pointless at end game and there are little variety in biomes (such as mobs and vegetation) making them feel quite boring and repetitive. Other than that i agree with this video
I believe that the elytra should not be usable with fireworks during flight. Instead, players could still use fireworks to propel themselves into the air for gliding, similar to the mechanics seen in Minecraft Dungeons. Or, it would be great if Minecraft introduced some sort of "lore journals" within the game that provide basic explanations about various aspects like the Nether Portal. These journals could offer guidance without overwhelming players with too much lore, this would allow the lore to still be built by the community and ensure a seamless experience for newcomers. By incorporating this feature, players can better understand the elytra's purpose and benefits, while discouraging excessive boosting during flight without nerfing it so people can still use it as is, but also be given a different way to use it that could be seen as more fun. Also camp fires should be able to boost people using an elytra.
i’ll never understand 3:10 because… why should there be only one way to go from place to place? Don’t dictate the way I want to play, that just makes the exploration “problem” even worse because now I can’t ever decide to mix things up a bit
there’s a reason he frames it like this which i’m gonna cover in my follow up video coming in the next few days
6:40 I agree with most ur points but most servers I've been on in the past while all have had worldborders to keep players closer together and to prevent lag, also on a server that has a lot of ppl who like kinda the drama/pvp side of things, no one wants to give you an advantage. With jet being a content creator I assume he'd be speaking from experiences on content smps like that. The point is still dumb, cause like you know, competition is the point of those kinds of servers.
Dudes really just be making problems out of nothing lmao, just play or quit the game
For the netherite part the upgrade templets only spawns in a treasure bastion one of the 4-5 variants of the bastions so yes it can be a bastion near your nether spawn but the chances of it being a treasure bastion is slim and the closest one can be thousands of blocks away so you have to 1 travel through the dangerous nether 2 if you find one you’ll probably not be ready to loot it because you spent all your resources like food to get there 3 you also need to risk looting it so put the risk of searching for it on top of the risk for looting it will end up in a big gamble so my opinion to “solve” this problem is to just make the upgrade templet able to be found in other types of bastions not only treasure ones
3:36 I would just have a "line" of horses to get around that lol
Basically, right as each horse runs out of stamina, I'd arrive at a fence post with another horse, allowing me to continue with very little interruptioni.
I think you were definitely right about the elytra but he was right about the horses. it's fine to nerf the horses as long the elytra is also nerfed heavily like making it so that fireworks don't work like you said
That would ruin the elytra and I think that is a terrible idea. Most people can't even get it since most people haven't even beaten the dragon. It is a late game item only acquired by more dedicated players
@@kyle--859 mfw when i don't balance the part of the game only for "dedicated players". you understand there's a lot of people who play the game, so the small fraction of dedicated players is still many many people?
@@logosking2848 That would ruin the game for dedicated players. I took my time and spent hours exploring on horseback. Now it is really nice to just be able to quickly fly to my desired location
@@logosking2848 But that would only hurt dedicated players
@@kyle--859 it would make playing varied playstyles more viable. all nerfs "hurt" the player that is playing them, but overpowered items makes games less fun because it locks you into the one particular playstyle of using that item and makes everything else unfun.
Watch this vid get like 50k views in a few days
it’s on that trajectory! :3
i just thought of a great nerf for the elytra, just make it so it starts of with like with like 0.3 durability per second and slowly as you go quicker/higher it takes more durability until it like caps at 1.5/s
why would i download a mod to make the game harder?, i dont want to grind for longer just to get the same shit
Great video man! Breakdown content like this lets the people know whats sup
i think the elytra is fine, it helped me SO MUCH, and i think we just need the end update. if it is harder to get because of the mobs and challenges, or maybe you need to do more steps to get to an elytra, it's going to be more rewarding to get it.
actually the netherite upgrade template is a big problem i own a server and it is definitely an issue and new players are still joining the server (which was made 2 years ago) my solution i did is periodically resetting bastion upgrade template chests once every few months
Ah the day when opinions can be wrong has come huh? Cause personally, i agree with that video. After ive got everything i need, theres no reason to explore. Most places dont have incentives to explore again like the deep dark or end.
Remove the eyltra from end cities
Make it a crafting recipe
Make it use a nether star or a new drop from the ender dragon idk
yes its a sandbox game so that also means that its not wrong to not want to stay at a base the entire time. i liked exploring in minecraft and it was, alright. but this mod kinda just helps make it exciting. yet again this is an opinion video that doesnt mean its wrong if it doesnt line up with YOUR opinion
Minecraft survival isn't sandbox