Rex night hunt, Pachycephalosaurus Duel, Trike Battle, Globidens Hunting Ammonites, Hatzegopteryx flock hunt and mating, all the Madagascar scenes, and the Isisaurus scenes.
Something interesting I heard, I think from the Skeleton Crew on UA-cam, that the likely reason why Prehistoric Planet probably only focuses on the end of the Cretaceous is because you have much more locations you can visit today that would reflect the late Cretaceous as it actually would have been - specifically because of the flora. The Late Cretaceous environments would have been very recognizable (minus the grasses and a few other flowering plants in particular) to the modern enviroments the crew shot for this series. nd in contrast, it would be much more difficult to find environments around today that would really match what we know about the Jurassic environments (outside from a few redwood and sequoia forests and a few other locations we've already seen used in other media like WWD), and even more so for Triassic environments. There's basically way too much modern flora around the world that really, really restricts where you could try to shoot a comparable variety of "authetic" scenes for Jurassic and Triassic segments that they've been able to pull off for Late Cretaceous. Sure they could still shoot some Triassic and Jurassic scenes for Prehistoric Planet, but they'll almost certainly be using many of the exact same locations as WWD did for their Triassic and Jurassic episodes. So if they wanted to show more of the varieties "authetic" biodiversity of the Triassic and Jurassic biomes, you're probably looking at extensive CG created and edited environments of forests, deserts, badlands, scrub-equivalents, because of types of flora that were or hadn't yet evolved at those times.
Exactly right. Making paleo-accurate & convincing plant cover is EXPENSIVE due to how much rendering would be needed, and Apple wouldn't have wanted to shell out the cash for such an enterprise. Having paleo-accurate flora would probably require less detailed models & animation to balance out the show's budget, and the producers wouldn't have wanted to sacrifice the animals' realism for the sake of getting extra time periods.
I agree with you but I would have loved to see some Triassic era. Even if it was strictly animation. I understand we know much less but I wouldn't mind a little educated guessing and imagination. Thank you for your comment you said it perfectly!😊
The issue with WWD-type presentations of following a single narrative is that while they are great for exploring a single ecosystem, they can’t provide an overview of the world at a given point in time. PhP by design is supposed to be more “Planet Earth” than “Dynasties”, an anthology showing snippets from across the then-current biosphere rather than following only some ecosystems and leaving others out entirely. Edit: WWD also has the issue of perpetuating evolutionary narratives where some lineages are “inferior” to others (including far too many cases where the lineages that supposedly were incompetent at existing/were outcompeted never actually were, as with pterosaurs, Triassic pseudosuchians or terror birds).
If they get third season, I would like to be focused on continents (or specific island) for each episode. We get North America, but I would like the entire episode about Antarctica.
That's entirely based on whether or not your jumping between time periods, or locals for your stories. If walking with dinosaurs wanted to, they could have very well gone the route of PhP, and still had a cohesive story arc through out. For example, put in a line that the Rex's hunting in the Swamps episode are the same Rex's that met last season at the river. We could then say that the lone rex in North America episode is the bull that was looking after his chicks. Honestly, what would have been really cool is if the whole season followed that Elasmosaurus through out his life, and then as we're following his life, we see how the whole ecosystem works off of each other and how in the greater role of things, its all connected. The bull Elasmosaur is one of the faster chicks so he's able to get away and continue on with his life, which brings him to that canyon were he's forced to figure out how to stay calm and trot on, and we end the season with one the Rex's chicks now fully grown munching as the now old and dead Elasmosaurus. I feel that the fact that there wasn't really an over arching story was cause at the end of the day, this is just a project that John Favor wants to put under his belt and say he made realistically rendered dinosaurs. That's a bit tinfoil haty, but he's done it before with his projects, lion king and the jungle book being used to get him a job in star wars. Which has me really excited for Agiot, cause that seems like its going for that more WWD focused story arc that I personally feel is higher slandered of qualify.
i believe we should get more than just cretacious, if we miss out on dinosaurs from the jurassic and triassic in such an amazing animation quality, ill be sad.
@@christosdoesthings thing is, there are very limited location where we can simulate an authentic triassic and jurassic enviroment unlike the cretacoeus enviroment shown here on prehistoric planet
I just wanted more time with the same species. I feel like we only got small looks into the world and not full stories. I especially wanted more time with the Rexes and the Trikes.
it would've been fun to follow the entire lifespan of some of the animals, or if not then longer portions at a time lol but that's probably like a personal preference thing
I feel that was the key difference with Walking with Dinosaurs. In those episodes, we followed a specific animal(s) with small side stories before coming back to focus on the animal of the episode. In Prehistoric Planet, we just had lots of small stories, but no overall narrative for each episode.
The rexes were probably the ones with the most screen time out of any specie, except maybe quetz or hatzeg. Imo T rex is kinda overrated and I wouldn't have liked Prehistoric Planet to turn into another Tyrannosaurus documentary when there's already multiple out there.
For the blood thing, yes, while more had been nice, to far from always that the blood spills out everywhere. And usually not as much as in “gory” pictures. That’s usually after eating or long battles where the blood has been pouring for a while. Especially with the last part with nanuqsaurus, the blood would get stuck in the feathers. Just look at when prides of prey eat or crocodiles rip things apart. There aren’t as much blood as one would initially expect.
Also extremely gory scenes with blood, bones , and intestines would propably be more difficult/expensive to animate. I assume its hard cutting a realistic 3d model into pecies.
it had really really awesome moments that was better than season 1, but it also has worse moments too, however my biggest issue was i was left with wanting more, it didnt feel as filling as season 1.
About the lack of rewatchability, i've seen S1 aproximately a gazillion times, and i'm already on my 3rd rewatch of S2. So yeah, super mega ultra disagree 😂 Personally, i just don't care for narratives in a documentary like this. You give me creatures i've loved my whole life rendered with unpresendented levels of realism, and the "it's... it's a dinosaur!" reaction from my brain releases the highest amount of dopamine possible
I agree. If you've grown up watching nature documentaries, you would be used to them going from one species to the next in the habitat/region and not particularly focusing on one animal or bothering with "character development."
Agree! The “lack of narrative” criticism this show gets has always baffled me. Prehistoric Planet is a spin off of Planet Earth, Frozen Planet, Blue Planet etc. None of those shows have a narrative, because of how candid nature is. Naturally, they wanted this show to have more in common with its Planet sibling shows than Walking With. The absence of narrative makes these animals feel more lifelike, as opposed to animated puppets that follow story beats (no shade to WWD)
@@BobBob-eb4io That's fair, but you gotta remember that the producers have always said that their goal was to make a nature documentary first, just one that happens to have non-avian dinosaurs
On your Exposition of how Violent Nature Documentaries can be, you are absolutely right, that this Series could've done with a bit more Realism in that Regard. However, my Boys, who are 4 and 6, ABSOLUTELY loved this Documentary and keep wanting to watch it over and over.
The inclusion of crocodilians, mammals and more ammonites was great, but I (for personal interest) would have liked some sharks. Maybe have a mosasaur carcass scavenged by Squalicorax until it sinks too deep and then is food for Notidanodon and maybe have bioluminescent etmopterids hunting crustaceans around the carcass.
I would love to, if season 3 happens, being at cenomanian stage with Spinosaurus (i know its pretty hard about Spinosaurus, but it looks like like its now only if it could swim or not debate (i think Spinosaurus would be best part of 3 season (again, if it happens))), Carcharodontosaurus, Giganotosaurus, Argentinosaurus, Kronosaurus, Australovenator or even my boy Siats
You could do an episode following a school of Onchopristis from the sea and up the rivers of N Africa to give birth, with the vast range of animals on the way (I have done a lot of fieldwork in the KemKem; the diversity of non dinosaurs is incredible too).
@@maairasif6047 The neural and hemal spines are too shallowly inclined- he tail could not have bent much. Think of to as a giant basilisk with display structures on the back and tail
I am 58 and your channel was just recommended to me. I love it, it's fantastic!!! You have 1 new subscriber thank you! I've been studying Dinosaurs and other prehistoric life since I was 8 and did a report on Archaeopteryx in 3rd grade. They are love love of my life. I must say Prehistoric Planet is good but my favorite is The Dinosaurs, a 4 part series on PBS. The mixture of animation and real life paleontologists is wonderful. I know its probably nostalgia also but if anyone loves Dinosaurs it's a must. Thank you again for your honest review, it's wonderful and I agree with you!
The reason the Late Maastrichtian was done (although I think a few of the taxa were Early Maast or even Campanian) is that there is a vast fossil record of that age, but also that the plant life is very modern. Going back pre- Cenomanian would be really difficult to find places without flowering plants of spend money editing them out. Otherwise Cenomanian would be great, likewise with Tithonian and maybe Bathonian/Callovian. Also Norian/Rhaetian but that would have a lot of non-dinosaurs.
I feel like, since they end this season with North America, the next season could probably have it where each episode takes place in a specific continent or major named landmass.
i didn't find any second of this show boring, and i love how they gave small, unknown species some light, cuz no ecosystem lives only on predators or giant animals, and it's really cool to see the ocean, which is already very mysterious, full of prehistoric life, I really just think that some interesting animals appear very little, like Edmontosaurus, Tarchia, I wanted to see these animals living and doing more things, and in that I agree that an episode just about fish and ammonites took the place of several cool animals that could also appear so my complaint is that the show is so good that it's not perfect cuz it's too short, lol
in my opinion prehistoric planet season 2 feels rushed because of the community wanting a second season so fast that the creators couldn't make a second season that was as good as the first one. but in my opinion the whole series is a 9.5/10 because the series is amazing but nothing can be perfect but damn near that but I agree with your points about the episodes.
28:15 This is exactly why Prehistoric Planet is the best dinosaur documentary. It's trying to show the mundaneness of dinosaurs and not treating them like action movie protagonists.
About that quetz vs rex scene, it makes sense why the rex was afraid. It is common for animal to judge their opponents by their height and width rather than asking their opponent to step on a scale to see their weight. That's why many animals will make themselves appear bigger to scare off any would-be predators.
Plus the fact that dinosaurs, and all other animals for that matter, don't know how big they are. They don't have mirrors, the know what their head looks like from water, but they don't know they're actual size
My favorite episodes 1. Islands (Love the tropical environments and the new non-dinosaurs but wish Antarctic bit had more clarity) 2. Oceans (I love oceans in general and they did amazing representing oceans with the bait ball and ammonites. Wish there were more new animals apart from Mosa and Tuarangis. I think because of the limitations of Late Cretaceous because Kronosaurus lived in Early) 3. Swamps (Loved the longer segments and Pachys but I wish the Edmonto fought back against Rexes) 4. North America (Love the T.Rex and Quetza battle but maybe a few battles) 5. Badlands (Loved the baby raptors and the famous Oviraptor egg method but maybe could add more interesting scenarios) *ALSO WHERE’S THE TOAST!? WHERE’S CARNOTAURUS? I NEED TO KNOW IF HE FOUND LOVE*
To be fair to the Edmonto, it managed to shake off the initial Rex bite, and the reason it got bodied afterwards was because there were two Rexes there.
I remember watching the Planet Earth nature documentary nearly two decades ago. There was a scene in a dry African area with a single watering hole where elephants and lions had gathered. During the day, the elephants and lions kept a fragile truce. At nighttime though, the lions managed to actually kill and eat an elephant. Most of the footage wasn't shown, presumably due to gore and violence. However, it did not look like the elephant fought back at all. The narrator (Sigourney Weaver for me, since I'm American) explained this as being due to the lions having much better night vision than the elephants, which have night vision about as good as ours (so quite terrible when moonlight and starlight are all that's available). I imagine that this kind of power imbalance would apply to a T. rex vs. Edmontosaurus hunt at night as well. Daytime would probably be an entirely different matter.
The only things I might not like about season 2 (or season 1) is how short the segments are and how some creatures don't get that much screen time, like Alamosaurus for example, you see them walking on a beach and David Attenborough talks about them like how big they are and how old they can get and then we see an individual die from old age, really wanted to see an interaction between Alamosaurus and Tyrannosaurus
yes that is my main gripe as well, I think both seasons could have benefitted from cutting some appearances, and spend more time with only a handful per episode.
I feel like season 2 had higher highs and lower lows. Season 2 has my al time favorite scene from the series, which is the two T.rex hunting the Edmontosaurus. I feel like it perfectly showed both the power and intelligence of the T.rex while also showing that the Edmontosaurus as a serious threat, which I feel like many forms of dino media show Hadrosaurs as being weak. It also had some moments that felt more boring and dragged out though. Overall I think season 2 isn't quite as good, but definitely was still great. Really hope there is a season 3.
I am making this just to say what I think they should do for season 3 and beyond. I feel like we have already gone over a lot from the Late Cretaceous, and changing time periods could make later seasons more interesting. I would love to see more species(like the Acrocanthasaurus and Spinosaurus) in later seasons. It would be easier to make it feel more fresh if each new seasons had mostly new species. I feel like there should at most be two seasons per time period, but even that felt like they were pushing it in some spots of season 2.
Evo. Responding to your WWD character type of episodes converstation, maybe Prehistoric Planet can do storylines about the shown dinosaurs that seem fit for a WWD style episode following them throughout. We kind of had this in Coasts where the Tuarangisaurus mother and calf both return in 2 segments. They can do an episode dedicated to the T.Rex family from Coasts, the Tuarangisaurus family from Coasts, Dreadnoughtus from Deserts, the different herds from the oasis in Deserts, the T.Rex pair from Freshwater, the Deinocheirus from Freshwater, Masiakasaurus family from Freshwater, Edmontosaurus, Olorotitan and Pachyrhinosaurus herd from Ice Worlds, Carnotaurus male from Forests, Therizinosaurus babies from Forests. I did rewatch Swamps and turns it out the T.Rex pair is not the same one as from Freshwater because the male doesn’t have the chopped off tail neither the leg injury and I highly doubt they healed that quickly but maybe it’s the same pair but I don’t think so.
I love Prehistoric Planet simply for the creature design. No offense to WWD, but some of its models, Allosaurus and T. rex in particular, have aged horribly, and it's hard for me to get as invested because they look so off. But whenever I see an animal in Prehistoric Planet, I feel like I'm looking at a real animal. The detail, the lighting, the movements, all comes together for me. One advantage I think the formula for PP has over WWD is that we can explore the world and its inhabitants more. The variety of animals and geology is great, and it leaves enough for me to want more in a good way.
11:22 i liked that scene, because it looked like they read my mind an put tyrannosaurus a thing on its feet that makes him silent while he walks, and one of them make a noise for purpose
my biggest issue with this season was that it just seemed less... out there than the original. Not only less new species, but more so less new behaviours. For instance, where in the last show we saw very few hunts, and the ones we had were quite unique, we didnt see that much here. Not only did more hunts mean less interesting behaviour other than that, but also the hunts themselves felt less interesting. Its not so much that I didnt want hunting, but for instance... what new or interesting behaviour did we see in the Nanuq hunt? The final scene of the series? Maybe it didnt help that some sequence felt a bit rushed too. And I really liked the ammonite segments, sorta. I liked the one about the babies and the one with Globidens A LOT. Some of my favourite segments in this season. The one where it showed the variety of ammonites was... I have mixed feelings. Whilst I do love that we got to see the wonderfully weird array of forms, I cant help but feel a bit disappointed that all we saw them do was float about. When you compare that to the other ammonite segments throughout the show... it just seems a bit lacking. Still a great season of course, just didnt quite hit the mark the first did imo.
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And I thought I was the only one who is somehow disappointed with the documentory so far. While it's top quality ... "Walking with Dinosaurs" is way more entertaining, because it had a narrative, more of a story to follow. And it was kind of chronological. In prehistoric planet sometimes I couldn't remember in which episode I was because the dinosaurs across the episodes either were in fact the same species as before, or were very similiar to the ones we already got introduced to. The episodes kind of feel the same very quickly
I'd honestly like to see a re-cut of both seasons mashed together in a more logical order. I'm sure there is enough of most of the animals to build a more cohesive and better-paced narrative. Put all the T-Rex and Triceratops scenes in one episode and you could have something closer in style to what Walking with Dinosaurs achieved. Bring the single Madagascar scene from S1 into the longer S2 Madagascar sequence and you'd have a perfect episode (in theme, if not in run time).
I liked both seasons, both paleo accurate and easily some of the best paleo media out there. My only problem with s2 is it feels a little rushed and I feel this plays in to why s2s episodes are shorter and have less new species. I hope that if a s3 eventually comes out they take more time with it and maybe move to a different time period. Still enjoyed s2 just s1 felt more finished and was more enjoyable imo
I love this show - but, it doesn't have the atmospheric quality of Walking with Dinosaurs perhaps owing to the more fast paced jumping from location to location format. I'm older than their target audience, and I felt that I needed a bit more than they'd give me to suspend my disbelief. It just doesn't lull the audience at the same slow tempo. That said - This show is better than we deserve, and it came from nowhere. A miracle.
I watched season 2 with my father and he was certainly most surprised by the Diplomoceras in episode 4. If BBC does more episodes exploring the earlier periods, I would hope that they could at least make a whole scene of an animal like Drepanosaurus in the Triassic or some other unusual species that isn't like anything else on the planet.
I liked prehistoric planet, but my biggest pet peeve is when David talks about how dromeasaurs hunt in packs, which is very unlikely, and the only evidence of it, can be disproven with predator traps, and large carcasses luring them there
Finally someone putting my thoughts into words. It’s good but just needs a consistent story structure treating the dinosaurs as characters as well as accurate characters. Spot on review.
personally I hope they make this a full franchise where we still get the end of the cretaceous, but also branch off shows about other time periods in the Mesozoic. maybe even exploring the time before and after the dinosaurs but I'm getting way ahead of myself.
I would prefer more of some of the particularly interesting points in history, like in the late permian 252 million years ago, and in the late pleistoscene some 100,000 years ago or somewhere along that
Wow. I think this surpassed walking with dinosaurs in every way. I was constantly awestruck. Even the ending of season 2. It was a quiet ending, and that's great.
Did anyone else watch the dinosaur movie that well.. 'dinosaur' movie that mainly played around the excavation of a dragon and how it may have lived? I will never forget the scene when it fights a T-rex to defend its offspring. The T-rex was badly burned and the mother dragon lost its ability to fly again. My first ever drawing that I actually put time into was of that dragon flying over a mountain range with a stream leading to a lake in the background. That movie actually made me believe that dragons were real. That the mother dragon ended up expiring in a frozen cave and remained preserved. I can't remember the name of the movie but I would highly recommend searching for it. I will never forget that movie and i was around 6 years old at the time. Man 20 years sure flew by.. no pun intended.
It's called, "Dragons: A Fantasy Made Real" from 2004. I had the same reaction as you as a child when I watched it. It's been uploaded for free in its entirety here on youtube, so I recently rewatched it. While the CGI obviously aged pretty poorly, it was still rather engaging and I love the merging of fantasy and documentary genres. The preserved dragon prop looked real to the point of being kind of gross, lol. I wouldn't mind seeing something like that remade or remastered.
This video was wonderful, although the series is very good, criticism is necessary, and after seeing so many videos of praise, I loved seeing a video talking about the other aspects of the Show, Thanks Evo, for real.
Well thought out video, although I disagree on almost every front. I really liked every scene that shed the light on animals other than pterosaurs/dinosaurs/marine reptiles, especially the ammonite one, and would like even more of them. I also really like that they show animals that we know very little about, as it is important to know the fossil record is only a glimpse into the prehistoric world, and showing only the dinosaurs we know well, although more "accurate" on paper, would be misleading at the end.
For season 3 (please, we need MORE!), other formations they could use from 66 Ma are: Argiles et Grès à Reptiles Formation (south France) Yezo Group (Japan) Maastricht Formation (Netherlands) Also would like more from Madagascar (Maevarano Formation), that's my favourite locality.
They do NOT want to be like WWD. They wanted it to be as realistic and lifelike as possible, like Animal Planet or Natural Geographic, but in a prehistoric setting. They choose the show to be made in that direction and I am just in love with that. WWD felt like drama shows like Ballad of Big Al and Giant of The Skies where they follow a storyline of 1 particular Animal as the focus point, and it holds a special place in my heart. But Prehistoric Planet puts a new benchmark into Dinosaur Documentaries and it is just in a whole another level!
My favorite scene in prehistoric planet 2 Episode 1 Hatzegopteryx mating display Episode 2 Rajasaurus eating baby isisaurus Episode 3 Two T rexes vs Edmontosaurus Episode 4 Mosasaurus attacking Tuarangisaurus Episode 5 T rex vs Quetzalcoatlus
I love everything to do with Madagascar, but yeah something felt off about this season felt off, but I still do love it even though it’s really not perfect
If season 3 was to be made, I'd would go with some diversity than just going with the same dinosaur families. Don't get me wrong, Tryrannosaurs Rex has been shown with near perfection, but for diversity, I'd go with other theropods such as maybe have Giganotosaurus hunting Andosaurus or Limyasaurus similar to modern day Lions or Komodo Dragons or perhaps show the lifestyles of Spinosaurus. Both species were in the Cretaceous period, so those ideas would work for Season 3.
Found there was too much mosasaur, t-rex and the dominion flyer begins with a Q. So many other predators to choose from. Still enjoyed it they just needed to include more species. Going to make a prehistoric planet themed park though with all species that featured.
The one thing that shouts out to me personally, is that the creators didnt really convey a sense of size of the giant sauropods. Like in s1 the dreadnoughtus "orgy" didn't look like a massive herd of giant sauropods, but a group of elephant seals they were almost mimicking. I mean, if we didn't already know that they were gigantic, would this scene have shown the audience that they were as big as they were? I think that walking with dinosaurs portrayed the sauropods much better using a ground level style of filming that would show their size more convincingly
No, real life nature documentaries are censored too. Not to the same degree as PP but you definitely pick up on things. Like say a typical hunt on the African savannah. You see the chase, you see the initial part of the catch, maybe some of the struggle, but the second the prey animal hits the ground it will suddenly jumpcut to a dead, half-eaten carcass. You very rarely see the actual moments of killing, the animal crying out in pain as its actively being torn apart while still alive (seriously don't ever watch unedited African wild dog hunting footage if you're squeamish, it is brutal stuff)
I was so terribly bored by the oceans episode that I had to watch it three times because I fell asleep or didn't remember anything from the first and second time I watched it. So the third time I was hyper focused and discovered, that I did remember everything, but it was so boring to me that it felt like nothing happened at all. LOL My favorite was the badlands episode. And I really liked the Madagascar parts of the first episode. North America felt like a random selection of scenes that didn't need to see.
Hey Evo! I just discovered your channel and I love it! I have a quick question - did you ever make a lush, very natural looking exhibition? One of those where you can barely see the dinosaurs from the outside and have to get into a sphere and roam around between the trees? I'd like to do that and I'm wondering if you would have any tips for it :)
For me though this season is on par with season one, maybe a lil bit better. Some aspects are clearly an improvement, like the CGI, Cinematography, and music, while some like duration and pacing feels slightly worse/rushed. Islands is a pretty great opening episode, all the segments are great, except two, the Zalmoxes feels a tad bit rushed, and the Antartic one while stunning does feel out of place. Badlands definitely have the tightest narrative, and a pretty good pacing, kinda a mix between the Planet Earth-esque vignettes format this series defaults to and the WWD format. But honestly, the middle chunk feels like a rehash of the desert episode for me. Swamps definitely the best use of the Planet Earth-esque format, jumping around in location but still feeling coherrent enough to be enjoyable. I arguably think this is the best episode out of both season even. All the segments are fun, and they stick close to the central theme. Oceans probably the weakest episode this season, like the only segments i love are the ammonites, they literally carried this episode imo. The other segments either feels rushed, or are not as unique. Still better than Freshwater though lol. North America was pretty suprising, since i expected this to be the weakest episode, but it turned out decent, good even. I think the first three segments were the best of the episode, and the Triceratops and Nanuqsaurus segments while still great, feels to derivative. And the ending is not as impactful as the Hatzegopteryx flying away from season 1. I think for what it is, S2 at least reaches the same quality as S1, despite the fact most segments are either cut or unused content, since they probably worked on both season at the same time. It's impressive. For future seasons, even if we stayed on Cretaceous (since filming on real location is much easier for Cretaceous environments), i hope we got to see Early or Middle Cretaceous too. Or even move to the Cenozoic Era, it'd be cool!
i love both seasons equally but i imo the most lacking part is... the story of these dinosaurs. We meet them once and they never come back, ofc there are exceptions for example isisaurus or the Amonites. But we need more of that type of storytelling for future seasons.
I'm really glad you decided to make this video! I would've lived a long life without knowing about this Beelzebufo and that would've been a shame! Other than that I'm also glad you did it even tho it might be not the most watched video. As one of those who hoped for this - thanks for not letting us down!
This season was great, i loved it, except the oceans, honestly i would’ve preferred they’d talk about more than just ammonites, mosasaurs and elasmosaurs, but other than that it was great, loved the new dinosaurs, loved the old dinosaurs, kinda wish we would have seen an updated carnotaurus, but we can’t have everything, i loved the mammals, the reptiles, the dinosaurs, 9/10
I have to agree, WWD and WWB were more immersive because of the story elements. Not only did each episode follow one or more individuals in particular, even across the episodes a general story was being told: the rise and fall of the dinosaurs (and later, mammals). Prehistoric Planet, in comparison, feels much more like unrelated snippets of cool and interesting stuff. But I also get that they want to make something new and unique.
I want an episode about sauropod hunting. Showing tarbo raja majunga and carno. I love to see the beautiful and powerful sauropods struggle for life and win and lose it.
Btw does anyone remember in wwd the scene of 2 torosaurus fighting and ones horn just snaps off completely, or when ants ate a baby bird in wwb... ww series was full of gore....
I really adore the series but it does lack some of the emotional connection to the animals that Walking with Dinosaurs managed to achieve with every episode. Each episode had a very distinctive feeling & was special in its own way. In Prehistoric Planet, all the episodes seem to blend together in mush of vaguely connected story lines. Plus, I don't think the entirety of 'North America' counts as a biome 😂 I'm still super hyped for another season though!
I've been thinking since first season that the organization by biome was a mistake. Focusing on one formation/region would be better, allows to develop character instead of random appearances, and of course was a bad idea to start from the end of cretaceous if they were speculating to make a lot of seasons. I also loved it, but I think that is possible to cut and merge scenes from all episodes and build better ones
I kind of agree that the ending of “North America” felt anticlimactic, compared to how season 1 ended with Hatzegopteryx flying into the sunset. I did kind of like how the episode began in what is now Texas with Alamosaurus, and went north to Alaska. I do think that it could have been better if the order of the segments were simply reversed, though.
It was such a shame that we lost time in each episodes, I’m not sure if it was as much as 10 minutes but it was a bit sad, I would’ve loved to either spend more time with the dinosaurs we had or focus on some other dinosaurs. I do like however that they include the educational segment in the episode for people to learn. I’m a bit confused why the trex had a hunting segment in the swamps section as that would’ve been perfect for the North America section but it was an absolutely fantastic section so I’m glad we got it somewhere. It’s interesting that you mention the mosasaur scene from episode 5 and the fly scene from the same episode. Maybe it was quite rushed and they should’ve structured things better While I loved swamps, I think I prefer North America purely for the trike scene and the bugs but objectively I think swamps is a lot better. I’m glad you made the video public, it’s nice to see your genuine thoughts
10:30 if you see modern frogs and toads in action while they're busy doing something and get interrupted, they do have a LOT of attitude. Not a lot of people realize just how much bad temper and anger issues a lot of amphibians have, because they are mostly harmless to humans.
You said its too boring, I think its too much action, and not varied enough. It's just hunt, hunt, hunt, hunt, hunt. Everyone of those hunts was amazing and great but it felt very repetitive. I feel like swamps had the least of that, it had cute baby azhdarchids (one of my favorite extinct animal groups, big surprise I know) in a scene very similar but different enough to my favorite scene from season 1, the Alcione hatching scene, so i would put that as my favorite episode from season 2, although my favorite segment was the Tethyshadros being hunted by the Hatzegopteryx in the Islands episode. Great video anyways, I'm very happy that you decided to make this in the end
19:00 so true... from the first season until now only this part shows the fresh "blood"... Either they are holding back or Apple TV is afraid that PP will get canceled for showing blood
I agree with a lot of the critiques and criticisms. I loved S2, but it does have an air of "These are all holdovers that we couldn't fit into the first season." It feels to me really like its a Season 1.5. The number of returning species, the similarity of episode themes in S1 and S2, the number of reused scenes (a couple mosasaur shots are used in both seasons), that all to me screams of cobbling something together based on leftovers. There is a lot of new stuff, certainly, but the animations seemed rather safe in a lot of places. The lack of gore and violence to me read like they didn't have the budget or time to devote to adding all of the liquid and particle effects necessary to make it convincing (the salt flat hunt being the obvious worse offender, but also the triceratops horn being broken just off screen). I think Evo is spot on with her thought that this season was rushed out to meet demand, just a shame it also feels like on some levels we got something a little lesser than some people hoped. I am definitely hoping for more, but I wouldn't be too upset if this is all we get. Prehistoric Plant has been amazing and I have learned so much new stuff already, just hope they give it more time before S3 to put something special together
@@ExtremeMadnessX Fair, I've not personally witnessed such so I appreciate the details. I usually only see the aftermath of blood and feathers. Blood splattering out is likely minimal then, but any fresh carcasses would have blood sheen and blood dripping off which would need to be added to each model uniquely. They did that for the Alamosaurus but not for the Ornithomimus. The stand out salt flat hunt too with the Pectinodon, based on the manner it thrashes the little bird-dino, would undoubtedly kick up a lot of salt dust and probably loosen some feathers to fly around. All of that would have to be animated to a) look good and b) interact convincingly with the environment which in turn takes time and money and some degree of practical effects which takes more time and money that may not have been available on a tight deadline. Hiding it solves that, but then you get something hilariously obvious. That was the point I was really trying to get at while still being concise.
I wish they would show more blood and gore, which is done better in dinosauria, in the first episode a male styracosaurus charges a younger styracosaurus and it shows blood splatter and shows the old buck horn with blood and the young buck with a giant hole in his underside and blood is present and the young buck is presumably killed by 3 daspletosaurus.
If they were to experiment with Season 3, I'd love to see the earlier years of the Cretaceous (specifically the Barremian) or even the early Jurassic! I want to see a Dilophosaurus in a beautiful rendition!
We all have our opinions here. But I understand your opinions on this. There may be things that we don't like, like the shorter episodes or how each segment goes, but there are things that we like in the series. This season does have some improvements, like how certain scenes play out or how each certain creature behaves. Overall this is an alright season with some improvements and some things we hoped to see come to show. But it could use some more work here.
I think a way to make more cohesive is make each episode focus on one formation. Like the hell creek, hateg basin or nemeg. They don't need to say the formation but just keep in one spot.
I'm still waiting for a trike v rex scene 💀 like its one of the most ironic pre-historic battles, and yet no one is directing it in modern times. I'm surprised that there wasn't one in the JP movies.
I hope The next documentary that will be made by the BBC and the crew from the walking with series can more hype and of course with the scientific accuracy of the prehistoric animals
Looking back, I agree with the fact that the Rex scenes carried much of the season. They are really great scenes, but watching this made me realize how weak some of the other scenes were. Integrating the uncovered sections definitely took its toll on the amount of content available (probably should've made the episodes at least 1 hour long), however the insights those sections bring are more known. Another nitpick of mine is that I'm not fond of Prehistoric Planet's insistence on using the imperial system. Yes, you read that right. It's not a big deal, but I tend to look for "meters" rather than "feet" in my quest to learn metric.
Lack of using metric systems was the most annoying thing. 50 feet long? Translating in metric system was annoying just to actually understand how big animal actually was.
I feel like they have a lot of talent, knowledge, and ambition, but that they don't have a full grasp on how to satisfyingly end a season of tv, episodic or not
I hope that a hypothetical season three mives on from the overused time period of 66 million years ago. I would love to see a season set 95 million years ago so as to see dinosaurs like spinosaurus, giganotosaurus, and carcharodontosaurus. They could also have it set in the lat triassic so as to show off the many different pseudosuchians that lived then. Really, any time period that isnt 66 million years ago would be an improvement in my eyes.
in the badlands episode did they give a easteregg to the dini king movie (the one with the speckle tarbo) because there was a scene where speckle and velociraptors met and fought
Funny how as a kid I loved stuff like Eddy Carr getting ripped in half by a pair of T. rex, but somehow the show runners were like "Dinosaurs are exclusively kid content, so no blood and no gore." Tell you what, that makes in parts incorrect. T. rex had a bite force somewhere between 35,000 and 56,000 Newton. The scientific term of bones being bitten by T. rex is "exploding" because that is what they do. If a T. rex bites an Edmontosaurus neck, it is game over. That is what these massive jaws were there for, putting everything into one bite. Showing it suffocating its prey by squeezing its trachea is not just correct, it is misrepresenting current scientific knowledge.
My personal ranking: North America > Swamps > Islands > Badlands > Oceans. I'm surprised that Oceans is last for me given how excited the promo shot of the breaching Mosasaurus attacking Tuarangisaruus made me. You probably disliked Oceans' adult ammonite section due to the fact that the adult ammonites pretty much did nothing. It was barely more than a slide show or GIF compilation. You can get a near equivalent experience by watching swimming animations in the JWE 2 Species Viewer. This definitely suggests that lack of narrative might be a persistent issue for Prehistoric Planet for some people. I know that the Skeleton Crew also complained about this.
I pretty much agree with everything you’ve said. I don’t think I was let down by Season 2 really, as it was really fun to watch. I paid the price for my high expectations is more accurate
If you've seen Prehistoric Planet season 2, what was your favorite scene?
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My fav was T rex vs quetzalcoatlus
Mosa breach scene, and I also loved how the edmonto put up a fight.
I cancelled Apple TV right before it came out 😭
Rex night hunt, Pachycephalosaurus Duel, Trike Battle, Globidens Hunting Ammonites, Hatzegopteryx flock hunt and mating, all the Madagascar scenes, and the Isisaurus scenes.
Something interesting I heard, I think from the Skeleton Crew on UA-cam, that the likely reason why Prehistoric Planet probably only focuses on the end of the Cretaceous is because you have much more locations you can visit today that would reflect the late Cretaceous as it actually would have been - specifically because of the flora. The Late Cretaceous environments would have been very recognizable (minus the grasses and a few other flowering plants in particular) to the modern enviroments the crew shot for this series. nd in contrast, it would be much more difficult to find environments around today that would really match what we know about the Jurassic environments (outside from a few redwood and sequoia forests and a few other locations we've already seen used in other media like WWD), and even more so for Triassic environments. There's basically way too much modern flora around the world that really, really restricts where you could try to shoot a comparable variety of "authetic" scenes for Jurassic and Triassic segments that they've been able to pull off for Late Cretaceous.
Sure they could still shoot some Triassic and Jurassic scenes for Prehistoric Planet, but they'll almost certainly be using many of the exact same locations as WWD did for their Triassic and Jurassic episodes. So if they wanted to show more of the varieties "authetic" biodiversity of the Triassic and Jurassic biomes, you're probably looking at extensive CG created and edited environments of forests, deserts, badlands, scrub-equivalents, because of types of flora that were or hadn't yet evolved at those times.
Exactly right. Making paleo-accurate & convincing plant cover is EXPENSIVE due to how much rendering would be needed, and Apple wouldn't have wanted to shell out the cash for such an enterprise. Having paleo-accurate flora would probably require less detailed models & animation to balance out the show's budget, and the producers wouldn't have wanted to sacrifice the animals' realism for the sake of getting extra time periods.
I agree with you but I would have loved to see some Triassic era. Even if it was strictly animation. I understand we know much less but I wouldn't mind a little educated guessing and imagination. Thank you for your comment you said it perfectly!😊
@@dottiegillespie8067 The Triassic is a period, not an era. The era is the Mesozoic, which the Triassic is a part of.
I ain't reading all that 💀
Yes, I remember James mentioning that!
The issue with WWD-type presentations of following a single narrative is that while they are great for exploring a single ecosystem, they can’t provide an overview of the world at a given point in time. PhP by design is supposed to be more “Planet Earth” than “Dynasties”, an anthology showing snippets from across the then-current biosphere rather than following only some ecosystems and leaving others out entirely.
Edit: WWD also has the issue of perpetuating evolutionary narratives where some lineages are “inferior” to others (including far too many cases where the lineages that supposedly were incompetent at existing/were outcompeted never actually were, as with pterosaurs, Triassic pseudosuchians or terror birds).
If they get third season, I would like to be focused on continents (or specific island) for each episode. We get North America, but I would like the entire episode about Antarctica.
That's entirely based on whether or not your jumping between time periods, or locals for your stories. If walking with dinosaurs wanted to, they could have very well gone the route of PhP, and still had a cohesive story arc through out. For example, put in a line that the Rex's hunting in the Swamps episode are the same Rex's that met last season at the river. We could then say that the lone rex in North America episode is the bull that was looking after his chicks.
Honestly, what would have been really cool is if the whole season followed that Elasmosaurus through out his life, and then as we're following his life, we see how the whole ecosystem works off of each other and how in the greater role of things, its all connected. The bull Elasmosaur is one of the faster chicks so he's able to get away and continue on with his life, which brings him to that canyon were he's forced to figure out how to stay calm and trot on, and we end the season with one the Rex's chicks now fully grown munching as the now old and dead Elasmosaurus. I feel that the fact that there wasn't really an over arching story was cause at the end of the day, this is just a project that John Favor wants to put under his belt and say he made realistically rendered dinosaurs. That's a bit tinfoil haty, but he's done it before with his projects, lion king and the jungle book being used to get him a job in star wars. Which has me really excited for Agiot, cause that seems like its going for that more WWD focused story arc that I personally feel is higher slandered of qualify.
i believe we should get more than just cretacious, if we miss out on dinosaurs from the jurassic and triassic in such an amazing animation quality, ill be sad.
@@christosdoesthings thing is, there are very limited location where we can simulate an authentic triassic and jurassic enviroment unlike the cretacoeus enviroment shown here on prehistoric planet
I just wanted more time with the same species. I feel like we only got small looks into the world and not full stories. I especially wanted more time with the Rexes and the Trikes.
yes definitely!
it would've been fun to follow the entire lifespan of some of the animals, or if not then longer portions at a time lol but that's probably like a personal preference thing
I would like the entire episode focused on Antarctica.
I feel that was the key difference with Walking with Dinosaurs. In those episodes, we followed a specific animal(s) with small side stories before coming back to focus on the animal of the episode. In Prehistoric Planet, we just had lots of small stories, but no overall narrative for each episode.
The rexes were probably the ones with the most screen time out of any specie, except maybe quetz or hatzeg.
Imo T rex is kinda overrated and I wouldn't have liked Prehistoric Planet to turn into another Tyrannosaurus documentary when there's already multiple out there.
the cute little croco-dog standing it's ground against the Majungasaurus was not only funny, but will stay in my memories
For the blood thing, yes, while more had been nice, to far from always that the blood spills out everywhere. And usually not as much as in “gory” pictures. That’s usually after eating or long battles where the blood has been pouring for a while. Especially with the last part with nanuqsaurus, the blood would get stuck in the feathers.
Just look at when prides of prey eat or crocodiles rip things apart. There aren’t as much blood as one would initially expect.
Interestingly, in Jurassic Park novel characters were talking about how in most animals attacks (on people), there isn't much blood to find.
Also extremely gory scenes with blood, bones , and intestines would propably be more difficult/expensive to animate.
I assume its hard cutting a realistic 3d model into pecies.
@@Pterosaursarecool that too
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it had really really awesome moments that was better than season 1, but it also has worse moments too, however my biggest issue was i was left with wanting more, it didnt feel as filling as season 1.
I think you said that very well!
lol S1 had the Ice Worlds Dromaeosaur hunt. The lows here are nowhere near as low
The seasons were great, animation, good insights, etc. But i just want more of it that is all
agreed!
About the lack of rewatchability, i've seen S1 aproximately a gazillion times, and i'm already on my 3rd rewatch of S2. So yeah, super mega ultra disagree 😂
Personally, i just don't care for narratives in a documentary like this. You give me creatures i've loved my whole life rendered with unpresendented levels of realism, and the "it's... it's a dinosaur!" reaction from my brain releases the highest amount of dopamine possible
I agree. If you've grown up watching nature documentaries, you would be used to them going from one species to the next in the habitat/region and not particularly focusing on one animal or bothering with "character development."
@@pigzard01 Yeah, and i'm a sucker for Planet Earth anyway
Agree! The “lack of narrative” criticism this show gets has always baffled me. Prehistoric Planet is a spin off of Planet Earth, Frozen Planet, Blue Planet etc. None of those shows have a narrative, because of how candid nature is. Naturally, they wanted this show to have more in common with its Planet sibling shows than Walking With. The absence of narrative makes these animals feel more lifelike, as opposed to animated puppets that follow story beats (no shade to WWD)
@jase7007 your right but i guess in my mind a dinosour documentary and a normal nauture documentary are 2 very different things
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That's fair, but you gotta remember that the producers have always said that their goal was to make a nature documentary first, just one that happens to have non-avian dinosaurs
On your Exposition of how Violent Nature Documentaries can be, you are absolutely right, that this Series could've done with a bit more Realism in that Regard. However, my Boys, who are 4 and 6, ABSOLUTELY loved this Documentary and keep wanting to watch it over and over.
The inclusion of crocodilians, mammals and more ammonites was great, but I (for personal interest) would have liked some sharks. Maybe have a mosasaur carcass scavenged by Squalicorax until it sinks too deep and then is food for Notidanodon and maybe have bioluminescent etmopterids hunting crustaceans around the carcass.
I would love to, if season 3 happens, being at cenomanian stage with Spinosaurus (i know its pretty hard about Spinosaurus, but it looks like like its now only if it could swim or not debate (i think Spinosaurus would be best part of 3 season (again, if it happens))), Carcharodontosaurus, Giganotosaurus, Argentinosaurus, Kronosaurus, Australovenator or even my boy Siats
You could do an episode following a school of Onchopristis from the sea and up the rivers of N Africa to give birth, with the vast range of animals on the way (I have done a lot of fieldwork in the KemKem; the diversity of non dinosaurs is incredible too).
I too want to see Spinosaurus in the upcoming season and me personally, I think Spinosaurus was a good swimmer because of its tail.
@@maairasif6047 The neural and hemal spines are too shallowly inclined- he tail could not have bent much. Think of to as a giant basilisk with display structures on the back and tail
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The reason the Late Maastrichtian was done (although I think a few of the taxa were Early Maast or even Campanian) is that there is a vast fossil record of that age, but also that the plant life is very modern. Going back pre- Cenomanian would be really difficult to find places without flowering plants of spend money editing them out. Otherwise Cenomanian would be great, likewise with Tithonian and maybe Bathonian/Callovian. Also Norian/Rhaetian but that would have a lot of non-dinosaurs.
I feel like, since they end this season with North America, the next season could probably have it where each episode takes place in a specific continent or major named landmass.
i didn't find any second of this show boring, and i love how they gave small, unknown species some light, cuz no ecosystem lives only on predators or giant animals, and it's really cool to see the ocean, which is already very mysterious, full of prehistoric life, I really just think that some interesting animals appear very little, like Edmontosaurus, Tarchia, I wanted to see these animals living and doing more things, and in that I agree that an episode just about fish and ammonites took the place of several cool animals that could also appear
so my complaint is that the show is so good that it's not perfect cuz it's too short, lol
in my opinion prehistoric planet season 2 feels rushed because of the community wanting a second season so fast that the creators couldn't make a second season that was as good as the first one. but in my opinion the whole series is a 9.5/10 because the series is amazing but nothing can be perfect but damn near that but I agree with your points about the episodes.
28:15 This is exactly why Prehistoric Planet is the best dinosaur documentary. It's trying to show the mundaneness of dinosaurs and not treating them like action movie protagonists.
About that quetz vs rex scene, it makes sense why the rex was afraid.
It is common for animal to judge their opponents by their height and width rather than asking their opponent to step on a scale to see their weight. That's why many animals will make themselves appear bigger to scare off any would-be predators.
Plus the fact that dinosaurs, and all other animals for that matter, don't know how big they are. They don't have mirrors, the know what their head looks like from water, but they don't know they're actual size
My favorite episodes
1. Islands (Love the tropical environments and the new non-dinosaurs but wish Antarctic bit had more clarity)
2. Oceans (I love oceans in general and they did amazing representing oceans with the bait ball and ammonites. Wish there were more new animals apart from Mosa and Tuarangis. I think because of the limitations of Late Cretaceous because Kronosaurus lived in Early)
3. Swamps (Loved the longer segments and Pachys but I wish the Edmonto fought back against Rexes)
4. North America (Love the T.Rex and Quetza battle but maybe a few battles)
5. Badlands (Loved the baby raptors and the famous Oviraptor egg method but maybe could add more interesting scenarios)
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To be fair to the Edmonto, it managed to shake off the initial Rex bite, and the reason it got bodied afterwards was because there were two Rexes there.
Plus, to make it worse, they can't see very well in the dark, so the Edmonto was probably blindly fighting the rexes
I remember watching the Planet Earth nature documentary nearly two decades ago. There was a scene in a dry African area with a single watering hole where elephants and lions had gathered. During the day, the elephants and lions kept a fragile truce. At nighttime though, the lions managed to actually kill and eat an elephant. Most of the footage wasn't shown, presumably due to gore and violence. However, it did not look like the elephant fought back at all. The narrator (Sigourney Weaver for me, since I'm American) explained this as being due to the lions having much better night vision than the elephants, which have night vision about as good as ours (so quite terrible when moonlight and starlight are all that's available).
I imagine that this kind of power imbalance would apply to a T. rex vs. Edmontosaurus hunt at night as well. Daytime would probably be an entirely different matter.
When Darren Naish and the rest of the php team where creating the T. Rex hunt they were actually considering making the Edmontosaurus win
@@SGBM2002 yeah, and also the fact that T-Rex had very good night vision
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I personally enjoyed it but...
PLEASE more than the cretaceous!!!
There is SO many possible episodes they could do of the jurassic too.
The only things I might not like about season 2 (or season 1) is how short the segments are and how some creatures don't get that much screen time, like Alamosaurus for example, you see them walking on a beach and David Attenborough talks about them like how big they are and how old they can get and then we see an individual die from old age, really wanted to see an interaction between Alamosaurus and Tyrannosaurus
yes that is my main gripe as well, I think both seasons could have benefitted from cutting some appearances, and spend more time with only a handful per episode.
@@EvolutionSquare Yeah
Perfection doesn't exist, nothing is perfect. This is the most obvious thing to know yet so much people forget for some reason.
I feel like season 2 had higher highs and lower lows. Season 2 has my al time favorite scene from the series, which is the two T.rex hunting the Edmontosaurus. I feel like it perfectly showed both the power and intelligence of the T.rex while also showing that the Edmontosaurus as a serious threat, which I feel like many forms of dino media show Hadrosaurs as being weak. It also had some moments that felt more boring and dragged out though. Overall I think season 2 isn't quite as good, but definitely was still great. Really hope there is a season 3.
I am making this just to say what I think they should do for season 3 and beyond. I feel like we have already gone over a lot from the Late Cretaceous, and changing time periods could make later seasons more interesting. I would love to see more species(like the Acrocanthasaurus and Spinosaurus) in later seasons. It would be easier to make it feel more fresh if each new seasons had mostly new species. I feel like there should at most be two seasons per time period, but even that felt like they were pushing it in some spots of season 2.
If they do keep it in the late Cretaceous the should focus more on specific dinosaurs.
Evo. Responding to your WWD character type of episodes converstation, maybe Prehistoric Planet can do storylines about the shown dinosaurs that seem fit for a WWD style episode following them throughout. We kind of had this in Coasts where the Tuarangisaurus mother and calf both return in 2 segments. They can do an episode dedicated to the T.Rex family from Coasts, the Tuarangisaurus family from Coasts, Dreadnoughtus from Deserts, the different herds from the oasis in Deserts, the T.Rex pair from Freshwater, the Deinocheirus from Freshwater, Masiakasaurus family from Freshwater, Edmontosaurus, Olorotitan and Pachyrhinosaurus herd from Ice Worlds, Carnotaurus male from Forests, Therizinosaurus babies from Forests. I did rewatch Swamps and turns it out the T.Rex pair is not the same one as from Freshwater because the male doesn’t have the chopped off tail neither the leg injury and I highly doubt they healed that quickly but maybe it’s the same pair but I don’t think so.
I love Prehistoric Planet simply for the creature design. No offense to WWD, but some of its models, Allosaurus and T. rex in particular, have aged horribly, and it's hard for me to get as invested because they look so off. But whenever I see an animal in Prehistoric Planet, I feel like I'm looking at a real animal. The detail, the lighting, the movements, all comes together for me.
One advantage I think the formula for PP has over WWD is that we can explore the world and its inhabitants more. The variety of animals and geology is great, and it leaves enough for me to want more in a good way.
11:22 i liked that scene, because it looked like they read my mind an put tyrannosaurus a thing on its feet that makes him silent while he walks, and one of them make a noise for purpose
my biggest issue with this season was that it just seemed less... out there than the original. Not only less new species, but more so less new behaviours. For instance, where in the last show we saw very few hunts, and the ones we had were quite unique, we didnt see that much here. Not only did more hunts mean less interesting behaviour other than that, but also the hunts themselves felt less interesting. Its not so much that I didnt want hunting, but for instance... what new or interesting behaviour did we see in the Nanuq hunt? The final scene of the series? Maybe it didnt help that some sequence felt a bit rushed too.
And I really liked the ammonite segments, sorta. I liked the one about the babies and the one with Globidens A LOT. Some of my favourite segments in this season. The one where it showed the variety of ammonites was... I have mixed feelings. Whilst I do love that we got to see the wonderfully weird array of forms, I cant help but feel a bit disappointed that all we saw them do was float about. When you compare that to the other ammonite segments throughout the show... it just seems a bit lacking.
Still a great season of course, just didnt quite hit the mark the first did imo.
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And I thought I was the only one who is somehow disappointed with the documentory so far. While it's top quality ... "Walking with Dinosaurs" is way more entertaining, because it had a narrative, more of a story to follow. And it was kind of chronological. In prehistoric planet sometimes I couldn't remember in which episode I was because the dinosaurs across the episodes either were in fact the same species as before, or were very similiar to the ones we already got introduced to. The episodes kind of feel the same very quickly
I'd honestly like to see a re-cut of both seasons mashed together in a more logical order. I'm sure there is enough of most of the animals to build a more cohesive and better-paced narrative. Put all the T-Rex and Triceratops scenes in one episode and you could have something closer in style to what Walking with Dinosaurs achieved. Bring the single Madagascar scene from S1 into the longer S2 Madagascar sequence and you'd have a perfect episode (in theme, if not in run time).
I liked both seasons, both paleo accurate and easily some of the best paleo media out there. My only problem with s2 is it feels a little rushed and I feel this plays in to why s2s episodes are shorter and have less new species. I hope that if a s3 eventually comes out they take more time with it and maybe move to a different time period. Still enjoyed s2 just s1 felt more finished and was more enjoyable imo
you can get mad at me all you want but i like prehistoric planet way more than walking with dinosaurs
I love this show - but, it doesn't have the atmospheric quality of Walking with Dinosaurs perhaps owing to the more fast paced jumping from location to location format. I'm older than their target audience, and I felt that I needed a bit more than they'd give me to suspend my disbelief. It just doesn't lull the audience at the same slow tempo.
That said - This show is better than we deserve, and it came from nowhere. A miracle.
I watched season 2 with my father and he was certainly most surprised by the Diplomoceras in episode 4. If BBC does more episodes exploring the earlier periods, I would hope that they could at least make a whole scene of an animal like Drepanosaurus in the Triassic or some other unusual species that isn't like anything else on the planet.
yea the ammonite scene with all the species together was really magical, truly felt like a whole different world
I loved season 2. Swamps was my favourite! Can't wait to rewatch season 1 and 2 in my summer break.
I liked prehistoric planet, but my biggest pet peeve is when David talks about how dromeasaurs hunt in packs, which is very unlikely, and the only evidence of it, can be disproven with predator traps, and large carcasses luring them there
The herperoinis scene is underated at hell
I have an ammonite with traces of mosasaurus teeth , it's very cool that they showed how Mosasaurus attacked ammonite
Finally someone putting my thoughts into words. It’s good but just needs a consistent story structure treating the dinosaurs as characters as well as accurate characters. Spot on review.
Because Prehistoric Planet is just a Planet Earth documentary but with dinosaurs.
personally I hope they make this a full franchise where we still get the end of the cretaceous, but also branch off shows about other time periods in the Mesozoic. maybe even exploring the time before and after the dinosaurs but I'm getting way ahead of myself.
I would prefer more of some of the particularly interesting points in history, like in the late permian 252 million years ago, and in the late pleistoscene some 100,000 years ago or somewhere along that
@@person4579 agreed but all throughout geological history there are tons of interesting time periods to explore
Wow. I think this surpassed walking with dinosaurs in every way. I was constantly awestruck. Even the ending of season 2. It was a quiet ending, and that's great.
Did anyone else watch the dinosaur movie that well.. 'dinosaur' movie that mainly played around the excavation of a dragon and how it may have lived? I will never forget the scene when it fights a T-rex to defend its offspring. The T-rex was badly burned and the mother dragon lost its ability to fly again. My first ever drawing that I actually put time into was of that dragon flying over a mountain range with a stream leading to a lake in the background. That movie actually made me believe that dragons were real. That the mother dragon ended up expiring in a frozen cave and remained preserved. I can't remember the name of the movie but I would highly recommend searching for it. I will never forget that movie and i was around 6 years old at the time. Man 20 years sure flew by.. no pun intended.
It's called, "Dragons: A Fantasy Made Real" from 2004. I had the same reaction as you as a child when I watched it. It's been uploaded for free in its entirety here on youtube, so I recently rewatched it. While the CGI obviously aged pretty poorly, it was still rather engaging and I love the merging of fantasy and documentary genres. The preserved dragon prop looked real to the point of being kind of gross, lol. I wouldn't mind seeing something like that remade or remastered.
This video was wonderful, although the series is very good, criticism is necessary, and after seeing so many videos of praise, I loved seeing a video talking about the other aspects of the Show, Thanks Evo, for real.
thanks for watching!
Love your vids! And I love knowing we would argue for HOURS on the specifics of this series 😂
I love the Tyrannosaurs hunting the Edmontosaurus
Well thought out video, although I disagree on almost every front. I really liked every scene that shed the light on animals other than pterosaurs/dinosaurs/marine reptiles, especially the ammonite one, and would like even more of them. I also really like that they show animals that we know very little about, as it is important to know the fossil record is only a glimpse into the prehistoric world, and showing only the dinosaurs we know well, although more "accurate" on paper, would be misleading at the end.
The rexes waking up at night are like my parents, also, I like the Pachycephlosaurus fight
For season 3 (please, we need MORE!), other formations they could use from 66 Ma are:
Argiles et Grès à Reptiles Formation (south France)
Yezo Group (Japan)
Maastricht Formation (Netherlands)
Also would like more from Madagascar (Maevarano Formation), that's my favourite locality.
They do NOT want to be like WWD. They wanted it to be as realistic and lifelike as possible, like Animal Planet or Natural Geographic, but in a prehistoric setting. They choose the show to be made in that direction and I am just in love with that. WWD felt like drama shows like Ballad of Big Al and Giant of The Skies where they follow a storyline of 1 particular Animal as the focus point, and it holds a special place in my heart. But Prehistoric Planet puts a new benchmark into Dinosaur Documentaries and it is just in a whole another level!
My favorite scene in prehistoric planet 2
Episode 1 Hatzegopteryx mating display
Episode 2 Rajasaurus eating baby isisaurus
Episode 3 Two T rexes vs Edmontosaurus
Episode 4 Mosasaurus attacking Tuarangisaurus
Episode 5 T rex vs Quetzalcoatlus
Agree about ep.4 100%, I actually fell asleep during the ammonite segment and I love ammonites!
I love everything to do with Madagascar, but yeah something felt off about this season felt off, but I still do love it even though it’s really not perfect
I agree! Something doesn't have to be *perfect* for it to be awesome and for us to love it :)
If season 3 was to be made, I'd would go with some diversity than just going with the same dinosaur families.
Don't get me wrong, Tryrannosaurs Rex has been shown with near perfection, but for diversity, I'd go with other theropods such as maybe have Giganotosaurus hunting Andosaurus or Limyasaurus similar to modern day Lions or Komodo Dragons or perhaps show the lifestyles of Spinosaurus.
Both species were in the Cretaceous period, so those ideas would work for Season 3.
Found there was too much mosasaur, t-rex and the dominion flyer begins with a Q. So many other predators to choose from. Still enjoyed it they just needed to include more species. Going to make a prehistoric planet themed park though with all species that featured.
The one thing that shouts out to me personally, is that the creators didnt really convey a sense of size of the giant sauropods. Like in s1 the dreadnoughtus "orgy" didn't look like a massive herd of giant sauropods, but a group of elephant seals they were almost mimicking. I mean, if we didn't already know that they were gigantic, would this scene have shown the audience that they were as big as they were? I think that walking with dinosaurs portrayed the sauropods much better using a ground level style of filming that would show their size more convincingly
No, real life nature documentaries are censored too. Not to the same degree as PP but you definitely pick up on things. Like say a typical hunt on the African savannah. You see the chase, you see the initial part of the catch, maybe some of the struggle, but the second the prey animal hits the ground it will suddenly jumpcut to a dead, half-eaten carcass. You very rarely see the actual moments of killing, the animal crying out in pain as its actively being torn apart while still alive (seriously don't ever watch unedited African wild dog hunting footage if you're squeamish, it is brutal stuff)
10:24 nah that image change got me 😂
I was so terribly bored by the oceans episode that I had to watch it three times because I fell asleep or didn't remember anything from the first and second time I watched it. So the third time I was hyper focused and discovered, that I did remember everything, but it was so boring to me that it felt like nothing happened at all. LOL
My favorite was the badlands episode. And I really liked the Madagascar parts of the first episode. North America felt like a random selection of scenes that didn't need to see.
Hey Evo! I just discovered your channel and I love it!
I have a quick question - did you ever make a lush, very natural looking exhibition? One of those where you can barely see the dinosaurs from the outside and have to get into a sphere and roam around between the trees? I'd like to do that and I'm wondering if you would have any tips for it :)
Thanks. I almost forgot that The Last Jedi happened. Thanks for not letting me live in a false picture of a perfect world.
For me though this season is on par with season one, maybe a lil bit better. Some aspects are clearly an improvement, like the CGI, Cinematography, and music, while some like duration and pacing feels slightly worse/rushed.
Islands is a pretty great opening episode, all the segments are great, except two, the Zalmoxes feels a tad bit rushed, and the Antartic one while stunning does feel out of place.
Badlands definitely have the tightest narrative, and a pretty good pacing, kinda a mix between the Planet Earth-esque vignettes format this series defaults to and the WWD format. But honestly, the middle chunk feels like a rehash of the desert episode for me.
Swamps definitely the best use of the Planet Earth-esque format, jumping around in location but still feeling coherrent enough to be enjoyable. I arguably think this is the best episode out of both season even. All the segments are fun, and they stick close to the central theme.
Oceans probably the weakest episode this season, like the only segments i love are the ammonites, they literally carried this episode imo. The other segments either feels rushed, or are not as unique. Still better than Freshwater though lol.
North America was pretty suprising, since i expected this to be the weakest episode, but it turned out decent, good even. I think the first three segments were the best of the episode, and the Triceratops and Nanuqsaurus segments while still great, feels to derivative. And the ending is not as impactful as the Hatzegopteryx flying away from season 1.
I think for what it is, S2 at least reaches the same quality as S1, despite the fact most segments are either cut or unused content, since they probably worked on both season at the same time. It's impressive.
For future seasons, even if we stayed on Cretaceous (since filming on real location is much easier for Cretaceous environments), i hope we got to see Early or Middle Cretaceous too. Or even move to the Cenozoic Era, it'd be cool!
i love both seasons equally but i imo the most lacking part is... the story of these dinosaurs. We meet them once and they never come back, ofc there are exceptions for example isisaurus or the Amonites. But we need more of that type of storytelling for future seasons.
I'm really glad you decided to make this video! I would've lived a long life without knowing about this Beelzebufo and that would've been a shame!
Other than that I'm also glad you did it even tho it might be not the most watched video. As one of those who hoped for this - thanks for not letting us down!
Honestly, I’d love if they stay right in the Maastrichtian, it’s my favorite part of the Mesozoic, even if it’s only a few final million years
Well I definitely hope they make more seasons
This season was great, i loved it, except the oceans, honestly i would’ve preferred they’d talk about more than just ammonites, mosasaurs and elasmosaurs, but other than that it was great, loved the new dinosaurs, loved the old dinosaurs, kinda wish we would have seen an updated carnotaurus, but we can’t have everything, i loved the mammals, the reptiles, the dinosaurs, 9/10
I feel it was funny that North America ended up having the best marine scene that wasn't in the Oceans episode!
Nice to see you also have the same opinions on the show. I literally gave both seasons the same ratings too.
I have to agree, WWD and WWB were more immersive because of the story elements. Not only did each episode follow one or more individuals in particular, even across the episodes a general story was being told: the rise and fall of the dinosaurs (and later, mammals). Prehistoric Planet, in comparison, feels much more like unrelated snippets of cool and interesting stuff. But I also get that they want to make something new and unique.
I want an episode about sauropod hunting. Showing tarbo raja majunga and carno. I love to see the beautiful and powerful sauropods struggle for life and win and lose it.
People like badlands the least because they baby sauropods were eaten.
Btw does anyone remember in wwd the scene of 2 torosaurus fighting and ones horn just snaps off completely, or when ants ate a baby bird in wwb... ww series was full of gore....
I really adore the series but it does lack some of the emotional connection to the animals that Walking with Dinosaurs managed to achieve with every episode. Each episode had a very distinctive feeling & was special in its own way. In Prehistoric Planet, all the episodes seem to blend together in mush of vaguely connected story lines. Plus, I don't think the entirety of 'North America' counts as a biome 😂 I'm still super hyped for another season though!
It's because it's made as a Planet Earth documentary but with dinosaurs.
I've been thinking since first season that the organization by biome was a mistake. Focusing on one formation/region would be better, allows to develop character instead of random appearances, and of course was a bad idea to start from the end of cretaceous if they were speculating to make a lot of seasons. I also loved it, but I think that is possible to cut and merge scenes from all episodes and build better ones
I kind of agree that the ending of “North America” felt anticlimactic, compared to how season 1 ended with Hatzegopteryx flying into the sunset. I did kind of like how the episode began in what is now Texas with Alamosaurus, and went north to Alaska. I do think that it could have been better if the order of the segments were simply reversed, though.
Sadly I haven’t seen it yet but at least this made Dinosaurs unlike channel 5s genetically engineered theme park monsters
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Very well said and reviewed.
It was such a shame that we lost time in each episodes, I’m not sure if it was as much as 10 minutes but it was a bit sad, I would’ve loved to either spend more time with the dinosaurs we had or focus on some other dinosaurs. I do like however that they include the educational segment in the episode for people to learn.
I’m a bit confused why the trex had a hunting segment in the swamps section as that would’ve been perfect for the North America section but it was an absolutely fantastic section so I’m glad we got it somewhere. It’s interesting that you mention the mosasaur scene from episode 5 and the fly scene from the same episode. Maybe it was quite rushed and they should’ve structured things better
While I loved swamps, I think I prefer North America purely for the trike scene and the bugs but objectively I think swamps is a lot better.
I’m glad you made the video public, it’s nice to see your genuine thoughts
10:30 if you see modern frogs and toads in action while they're busy doing something and get interrupted, they do have a LOT of attitude. Not a lot of people realize just how much bad temper and anger issues a lot of amphibians have, because they are mostly harmless to humans.
You said its too boring, I think its too much action, and not varied enough. It's just hunt, hunt, hunt, hunt, hunt. Everyone of those hunts was amazing and great but it felt very repetitive. I feel like swamps had the least of that, it had cute baby azhdarchids (one of my favorite extinct animal groups, big surprise I know) in a scene very similar but different enough to my favorite scene from season 1, the Alcione hatching scene, so i would put that as my favorite episode from season 2, although my favorite segment was the Tethyshadros being hunted by the Hatzegopteryx in the Islands episode.
Great video anyways, I'm very happy that you decided to make this in the end
19:00 so true... from the first season until now only this part shows the fresh "blood"... Either they are holding back or Apple TV is afraid that PP will get canceled for showing blood
I agree with a lot of the critiques and criticisms. I loved S2, but it does have an air of "These are all holdovers that we couldn't fit into the first season." It feels to me really like its a Season 1.5. The number of returning species, the similarity of episode themes in S1 and S2, the number of reused scenes (a couple mosasaur shots are used in both seasons), that all to me screams of cobbling something together based on leftovers. There is a lot of new stuff, certainly, but the animations seemed rather safe in a lot of places. The lack of gore and violence to me read like they didn't have the budget or time to devote to adding all of the liquid and particle effects necessary to make it convincing (the salt flat hunt being the obvious worse offender, but also the triceratops horn being broken just off screen). I think Evo is spot on with her thought that this season was rushed out to meet demand, just a shame it also feels like on some levels we got something a little lesser than some people hoped.
I am definitely hoping for more, but I wouldn't be too upset if this is all we get. Prehistoric Plant has been amazing and I have learned so much new stuff already, just hope they give it more time before S3 to put something special together
If you ever see cat caching small prey like birds or mice, there's isn't much blood, most of the time you see dead body without trace of blood.
@@ExtremeMadnessX Fair, I've not personally witnessed such so I appreciate the details. I usually only see the aftermath of blood and feathers.
Blood splattering out is likely minimal then, but any fresh carcasses would have blood sheen and blood dripping off which would need to be added to each model uniquely. They did that for the Alamosaurus but not for the Ornithomimus. The stand out salt flat hunt too with the Pectinodon, based on the manner it thrashes the little bird-dino, would undoubtedly kick up a lot of salt dust and probably loosen some feathers to fly around. All of that would have to be animated to a) look good and b) interact convincingly with the environment which in turn takes time and money and some degree of practical effects which takes more time and money that may not have been available on a tight deadline. Hiding it solves that, but then you get something hilariously obvious. That was the point I was really trying to get at while still being concise.
I wish they would show more blood and gore, which is done better in dinosauria, in the first episode a male styracosaurus charges a younger styracosaurus and it shows blood splatter and shows the old buck horn with blood and the young buck with a giant hole in his underside and blood is present and the young buck is presumably killed by 3 daspletosaurus.
If they were to experiment with Season 3, I'd love to see the earlier years of the Cretaceous (specifically the Barremian) or even the early Jurassic! I want to see a Dilophosaurus in a beautiful rendition!
As someone from Dorset, having Scelidosaurus swimming between the Bristol islands and avoiding Temnontosaurus would be a focus.
We all have our opinions here. But I understand your opinions on this. There may be things that we don't like, like the shorter episodes or how each segment goes, but there are things that we like in the series. This season does have some improvements, like how certain scenes play out or how each certain creature behaves.
Overall this is an alright season with some improvements and some things we hoped to see come to show. But it could use some more work here.
I think a way to make more cohesive is make each episode focus on one formation. Like the hell creek, hateg basin or nemeg. They don't need to say the formation but just keep in one spot.
I'm still waiting for a trike v rex scene 💀 like its one of the most ironic pre-historic battles, and yet no one is directing it in modern times. I'm surprised that there wasn't one in the JP movies.
They could make one off "specials" where we follow e.g. a individual T Rex from a juvenile to adulthood.
Thank you for having the Courage 😄 to release this one because i felt the same about season 1 and i m happy to hear that you felt the same❤
I hope The next documentary that will be made by the BBC and the crew from the walking with series can more hype and of course with the scientific accuracy of the prehistoric animals
Looking back, I agree with the fact that the Rex scenes carried much of the season. They are really great scenes, but watching this made me realize how weak some of the other scenes were. Integrating the uncovered sections definitely took its toll on the amount of content available (probably should've made the episodes at least 1 hour long), however the insights those sections bring are more known.
Another nitpick of mine is that I'm not fond of Prehistoric Planet's insistence on using the imperial system. Yes, you read that right. It's not a big deal, but I tend to look for "meters" rather than "feet" in my quest to learn metric.
Lack of using metric systems was the most annoying thing. 50 feet long? Translating in metric system was annoying just to actually understand how big animal actually was.
I feel like they have a lot of talent, knowledge, and ambition, but that they don't have a full grasp on how to satisfyingly end a season of tv, episodic or not
16:51 Now this, this is the Unnamed PP Troodontid
I hope that a hypothetical season three mives on from the overused time period of 66 million years ago. I would love to see a season set 95 million years ago so as to see dinosaurs like spinosaurus, giganotosaurus, and carcharodontosaurus. They could also have it set in the lat triassic so as to show off the many different pseudosuchians that lived then. Really, any time period that isnt 66 million years ago would be an improvement in my eyes.
i gotta say the swamp was also my episode it reminded me of that one croc chasing a baby pterosaur in dinosaur revolution
in the badlands episode
did they give a easteregg to the dini king movie (the one with the speckle tarbo)
because there was a scene where speckle and velociraptors met and fought
Funny how as a kid I loved stuff like Eddy Carr getting ripped in half by a pair of T. rex, but somehow the show runners were like "Dinosaurs are exclusively kid content, so no blood and no gore."
Tell you what, that makes in parts incorrect. T. rex had a bite force somewhere between 35,000 and 56,000 Newton. The scientific term of bones being bitten by T. rex is "exploding" because that is what they do. If a T. rex bites an Edmontosaurus neck, it is game over. That is what these massive jaws were there for, putting everything into one bite. Showing it suffocating its prey by squeezing its trachea is not just correct, it is misrepresenting current scientific knowledge.
My personal ranking: North America > Swamps > Islands > Badlands > Oceans. I'm surprised that Oceans is last for me given how excited the promo shot of the breaching Mosasaurus attacking Tuarangisaruus made me.
You probably disliked Oceans' adult ammonite section due to the fact that the adult ammonites pretty much did nothing. It was barely more than a slide show or GIF compilation. You can get a near equivalent experience by watching swimming animations in the JWE 2 Species Viewer. This definitely suggests that lack of narrative might be a persistent issue for Prehistoric Planet for some people. I know that the Skeleton Crew also complained about this.
I pretty much agree with everything you’ve said. I don’t think I was let down by Season 2 really, as it was really fun to watch. I paid the price for my high expectations is more accurate