It’s because Rock is a very potent offensive type but very bad defensively, second only to Ice in this respect. I don’t know if that’s what GameFreak was going for when they designed this type, though, because most of the ground types seem made to be slow but bulky tanks which can dish out and deal damage, which only accentuates its weaknesses. Aurorus and Hisuian-Avalugg are the prime examples of this, with both being extremely slow and bulky Ice/Rock type Pokémon, a double whammy of awfulness. This type combo is probably the absolute worst defensive combination in the entire game but is actually quite strong offensively, meaning they only had a shot at being good if they were really fast and couldn’t take a hit anyway like Weavile, which is an actually good Pokémon with similar weaknesses due to its typing (but even then, Ice/Dark is only bad defensively rather than literally the absolute worst I can even think of besides maybe Ice/Bug)
I prefer physical Solrock and special Lunatone personally. I like the idea that Solrock's preferred fighting method is to plummet onto opponents like a flaming meteor and Lunatone uses mysterious moon powers.
Or they get the Minior treatment where Solrock and Lunatone gets a cracked design on her body and minior's ability. If they crack they change their type to Fire-Psychic (Solrock) and Ice-Psychic (Lunatone). Minior changes his type to Rock-Psychic and his cracked form has Fairy-Psychic.
@@literallygrass1328 Ice would be one opposite to fire. That's why. It's only an idea because I think it's missed potential that Minior doesn't change his type after he looses his stone shell.
I used onix in let's go, and while the spectacle of using an onix was fun, the fact that the leagues flying and poison types couldn't be at least 2 shot by it really pointed out her weakness
I used Onix in Diamond until the 6th gym because I thought it was strong due to its size. Since Diamond was my first Pokémon game, I was still learning.
Still kinda dumb, even if that is the answer. They shoved everything into defense when everything it was weak to in gen 1 was special. It still faints so easy to anyone breathing at it. They really should just have gone for higher attack and split those defenses.
My best experience with meganium was how in soulsilver, he tanked clair's kingdra dragon pulse, and returned a 30% overgrow poweredup petal dance to KO it. he may didnt do much until then, but in the most difficult battle he actually came through
Meganium is the reason (well chikorita) is the reason why I had a hard time starting on silver and gold when they first came out. I'm a dye hard grass starter fan lol
Glaceon. By design it's my favorite eeveelution, but it's stat spread is weird. Every eeveelution has 1 stat raised to 130, 1 to 110, 1 to 95, and the rest are 65. Glaceons best stat is special attack, same as espeon. This is fine because ice can go either way. But its other raised stats are its defenses. Why? Ice should be fast and hard hitting. So its second best stat should be speed, and its third should either be health or physical attack. Neither of those combinations are used by other eeveelutions, and its what glaceon should have
tbh, Lapras isn't THAT bad. But the main thing is indeed the speed and maybe buff its Special attack as well. Its Moveset can also use some sprucing up, especially on the Water typing side of things (Its only deced level up Water moves are Water Pulse and Hydro Pump. It honestly amazes me Lapras can't learn Scald whatsoever, especially since Late game Water Pulse is pretty much pointless and Hydro Pump has low accuracy. Scald would be a nice middleground for both of them. Pyroar i totally agree with you. Its good on the speed and special side, which is funny, since the majority of its level up moveset is Physical, so i would buff its attack stat from 67 to at least 85 and take at least 6 points away from its Speed stat (Would still make it a solid 100 speed and 9 points from special (Would make it 100 special). Maybe even change Unnerve to Strong Jaw or Intimidate to make it even more viable. The rest i totally agree with as well.
@@Rarest26 To be fair, Galarian darmanitan can actually become fire type with its ability, and will o' wisp seems common among ghost types, which froslass is, so it's not as if those guys have no excuse.
Speaking of Pyroar, can we talk about Zebstrika since it suffers from similar issues? It’s a Pokémon inspired by an animal normally found in Africa, has a cool concept and design, has high speed and attack but its movepool barely helps it at all. It’s mostly special oriented and outside of Wild Charge, most of its usable moves are just Normal type. It coverage absolutely blows.
Pyroar's situation isn't that similar to Zebstrika. Sure, they have problems with coverage but so does a lot of Pokemon. Zebstrika has a lot more problems, starting with the lack of a good physical STAB move. Atleast Pyroar still have reliable STAB in Hyper Voice and Flamethrower. Wild Charge is only 90 BP with recoil and no secondary effect. The suggestion he made to improve Pyroar is a terrible suggestion. Physical Fire types are always pretty bad. Their physical STAB move of choice is Flare Blitz, which has has recoil and 109 Atk stat isn't enough to justify using a recoil move. It might get Blaze Kick if it's lucky, but that has the dreaded 90 Accuracy. I agree that Pyroar is lackluster, but making it physical is not the way to go.
@@Eric-py8yy Fun fact: they already made an electric Iron Head, but it's only learned by Togedamaru and Pincurchin. The move in question is Zing Zap, or "Shocking and Prickly" in Japanese, so you can't really make it widespread due to it not making sense on most Pokemon.
The best way to buff onix is to give it a little more HP, Speed and Atk and get ride of the ground type Trust me it would be way better without the ground typing
@@swampy725 Yes, it would be better without the Ground type, but that's too drastic of a change. You could say the same thing about a lot of Pokémon with poor type combinations, but they're stuck with the types that (generally) make sense for their designs. 70 Base Speed already outspeeds most unevolved early game Pokémon.
Aurorus is usually my fossil of choice in a playthrough, simply due to liking it more than Tyrantrum. Honestly, I feel like it would work best to create some kind of Ice-type version of the move Shell Smash, since that move itself wouldn't work on most Ice types, plus it isn't like Ice is an effective defensive type anyways. But, lets be real for a sec, we all know that Ice needs at least one or two more resistances. Maybe it could resist Ground or Electric?
@@emperorcubone yeah but in that case they would all need to be speedy too so they can actually attack so they aren’t 1HKO’d before they can do anything. So to me they need more resistances or like a move that sort of combines protect and Volt switch or their own version of extreme speed
The biggest Problem i have is that Aurorus is covered in gems and cant learn power gem. I mean like wth it would make it so much better just to have a strong special Rock-Typ move
Ikr? At the very least, Ice should resist the types it’s strong against (dragon’s a bit debatable, but still), and I still don’t get why it doesn’t resist water. Bug could be a good resistance, too.
4:30 I remember using Pyroar in X and Y and hating it due to how long it took to get a decent fire move on them. Like seriously it took to level 38 to get flamethrower, the only special fire type move it gets before than is ember. So it would literally evolve from Litleo to Pyroar before it got it's 1st decent special fire type move.
Meganium needs to learn Rock Slide by leveling up. Great coverage and you can imagine it using its vines or stomping to cause the attack. And every other dinosaur mon gets Rock moves to varying extents. Sceptile can learn via TM. Meganium deserves this.
have just started watching the video but i wish golduck got the psychic type and got abit buffed also helioisk i think shouldve gotten a buff too, maybe it could have gotten an ability that changes the types based on the weather with how its current abilities react to sandstorm, sun, etc
Plain and simple Heliolisk should've been a Ground type instead of part Normal type. That would've helped it a ton and made its signature Electrify much more useful.
What is it with plant based pokemon and having higher physical attack than mons that look like they should have a far higher attack stat than the plant based mons. 1st Oddish having a higher attack stat than Onix now this.
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We all collectively agree ice is the worst type. They need to give it a single more resistance like water, ground or electric. To make it viable. Ice and rock types are weak defensively and game freaks made them all slow bulky. Only few fast ice and rock types are present like vanillux, weavile, lycanrock. So trick room and slush rush are good ways to play them.
12:16 Oh, please! Give at least Onix the credit of not suffering the Rock/Ground curse of having 51 or lower base Speed, like the rest of the Pokémon within the Rock/Ground group. Even Aggron suffered this (since it is the Generation III equivalent of Rhydon), and it isn't even a Ground-type! This alone makes Onix actually pretty unique, which makes the whole thing all the more sadder when it evolves...
Nice list mate, I do find it funny that gamefreak say it’s finding it hard to add every Pokémon into a game because of sheer numbers, but instead of adding new Pokémon they can easily improve existing Pokémon with evolutions. Like a Lapras evolution, solrock etc basically your list lol.
Mightyena would need far more stats boosts than that to be useful. 100 base attack and 85 base speed still ain't great. Though he might have a tiny niche use in ZU with these buffed stats.
@@3.2187_Kilometres I doubt it would be good in ZU with that buff, 100 attack and 85 speed with moxie sounds decent for the lowest tier but have you seen the powercreep? There are much better mons.
@@3.2187_Kilometres actually, she got some pretty good abilities, intimidation and quick feet as her normal abilities and moxie as her hidden one. thats why im taking care of her slowly. i dont want her to be broken, i want to be able to use her. and yes, im talking about her as a female because i only use a female one because of something that happened back on emerald
Lapras in gen 8 vgc is really good. I love using it on my team with weakness policy. Its Dynamax form gives your team aurora veil with ice moves while being able to control weather with water moves. It’s also incredibly bulky when dynamaxed and freeze dry, thunder and perish song are handy
9:58 Aurorus has Snow Warning so an ability at lets to set up Aurora Veil without hail is useless, as you can simply set up Hail then Aurora Veil and you have the hail breaking potencial Focus Sashes Or lure Tyranitar to Earthquake it
Lions are that impresive on the physical side, many other felynes and pantheras that are stronger. If anything, Pyroar is just as underwhelming as the animal is based on.
Funny enough just before the video i was saying that shouldn't pyroar be a bit more physical but they are still my fav pokemon no matter what ---litleo gang
Clearly, Pokémon with poor type combos(i.e. Ice/Rock, Rock/Ground, Rock/Fire, etc.) should all be fast, frail, and powerful. Weavile had the right idea.
In my opinion, I think making Onix into a case similar to Scyther (being a pre-evolution that is still on par with its fully evolved form, but with a different play style) would be really cool. A fast rock type is an interesting concept, and if it got an attack stat buff and some attack boosting moves like Dragon Dance, it could be a really interesting team member both casually and competitively.
I must contest Meganium for one sole example: Mr. Stake from TFS plays SoulSilver. That dumb dinosaur literally got hit with a Supereffective move that brought it down to ~4 Health. That thing came close to Death so often they joked frequently that nothing would ever be able to kill him. And he was so beloved that one of the members of that playthrough actually named his own dog after the Meganium
Funnily enough, Bastiodon is an absolute menace in Pokemon GO PvP. Its super top tier 🤣 Bastiodon was in the thumbnail, its what made me think of it haha
Hey, we have the same favorite fossil pair. Anyway, Meganium is one pokemon I'll go to bat for. After using one pokemon colosseum, I loved it. Razor leaf, Giga drain, Leech seed and Body slam helped so much. This got me thinking, how about "Top 6 pokemon you came to appreciate in side games"
When sun and moon were announced with minior i thought it was a pre form of solrock and lunatona and to this day i think its ability would be a huge boost to them
Lapras got a temporary buff in the way of a G-Max form. Sure, it’s only for 3 turns but it’s something? As for a permanent solution, you’re essentially right… 🙂
Lapras was really good in a couple VGC formats with it's G-Max form. I think that might just prove your point, once it got a new form it thrived. Especially cause that make it almost unkillable
I think just making Solrock a special attacker and keeping Lunatone would be what I'd do. I'd also make Lunatone defensive and Solrock Special defensive
Give lapras a ice type signature move. Or a move like sound proofing immune to sound type moves for 5 turns.(yes use perish song, spam the heck out of the move) Single stage pokemon are great early! But so many are later in the game. Imagine if you could only catch a pikachu or caterpie or miltank or hitmonchan, snorlax after the 6th gym?
My Lapras was my surfer in Fire Red, my first game ever, so it’ll always have a special place in my heart. It was also one of the strongest mons on my team. Gotta love that bulk. Also, you could’ve even added ANOTHER big dinosaur to this list with Tropius, lol. What’s the deal?
The Onix one is funny, because I used Dragon Dance weak armor onix to sweep a low ladder team in showdown. Its low ladder National DeX AG, not LC or some other tier. I guess it could be useful in a low ladder competitive match but it's useless in game.
I love this video! So many pokemon need a stat boost, a new form, just something! I'm glad Gamefreak is giving some love to Basculin and Stantler in Legends.
8:15, I believe the best option (especially NOW in gen 8) for meganium is a regional form based of a cactus/desert flowers. The idea is meganium would be a grass-rock or a grass-steel type, with the sand stream ability. If you also boots meganium base sp.def it could become a special variant of Ferrothorn.
Awesome list! Another thought with Onix is look at Scyther and Scizor or Porygon2 and PorygonZ. They have the same base stat total as their evolutions- so even if Onix got a huge stat buff it wouldn’t be a big deal- because it gaining an evolution would still be worth it- since its typing gets a lot better.
I feel like Ónix and Steelix should’ve done what Scyther and Scizor did. Both of them having the same stat total but Onix is faster and Steelix slower but more defensive. It would’ve made so much more sense than having Onix be pathetically weak just because it’s the first “boss” of the first gym. Then give the second gym leader a 520 base stat total Starmie right after with no problem.
Onix was one of my favorite pokemon as a kid and i tried to use it when i got platinum. It was so bad. Lapras is currently one of my favorite water types and it hurts that its attack stats are so low with that deep coverage
I would say meganium should get ingrain, leech seed, synthesis and giga drain/some other draining move. Let it just be a brick of a pokemon that's weak offensively but just impossible to get rid of. Also give Aurorus Snow Warning as a hidden ability and Aurora veil. Get some more variety in hail setters.
There needs to be more accessible Special Rock moves. Most Rock Types with higher Special Attack only get access to Ancient Power and are denied Power Gem because reasons. We need more Special Rock type attacks.
Fun fact Onix has the highest physical defense of all Pokémon. I am not talking base stat, with eviolite and max defense it has the highest stat at 690 (if I am not mistaken, did not look it up)
I actually did a challenge run of sword and shield where I had to catch a new team after every gym, and one of my teams had a Lunatone. That Lunatone was actually really strong and was easily MVP in the gym battle.
I'm currently doing a similar one. A new team after every gym but my new team must be the same type and number of pokemon that the upcoming gym leader is going to use
My first thought was actually Luxray. People seem to LOVE this thing. It has good attack and... decent speed... but has a truly awful movepool. It's built to be physical, but its only physical Electric attacks are Spark and Thunder Fang, which are super weak (and the latter doesn't even get 100 accuracy), or Wild Charge, which deals recoil damage, and is still only of moderate strength. Honestly, I'd use every Pokemon in this video (besides Onix) before I'd even consider touching Luxray.
You're right; Luxray has been underserved for years. I will say it has been improved in the recent remakes, but it's not that huge of a change, like significantly more type coverage...
For me, it’s a handful of the turtle Pokémon that I wish were better. Real descent ones are Torkoal and Blastoise. Shuckle is to passive. Avalugg dies to any special attack. Torterra has poor coverage and a terrible defensive typing. Turtonator’s health is to low and Shell Trap can’t be self activated. Carracosta and Drednaw will get destroyed by Grassy Glide Rillaboom. And Drednaw suffers from being an early game 2 stage evolution, anti-synergy with its Gigantamax form, and stats are a slightly slower Kabutops.
I do also doubt we will see megas again, but what do you think they will go for? They could just do Dynamx again, i guess... but they have been bringing a new gimmick every generation and, as we saw with the 3rd gen remaster, whatever they bring to the Arceus game could end up in the DP remaster too
Lunatone is my absolute favorite Pokémon, and I agree with your suggestion! I was downright disappointed that Sun and Moon didn’t do a dang thing with them or Solrock!
Tbh a lot of these stat issues could be solved by Mega Evolutions, but for some reason Game Freak decided to stop making them 🤦♂️ Heck, here are some concepts for Megas of the Pokémon featured in this video that I whipped up in 20 minutes: Mega Lapras Water/Ice Ability: Ice Body HP - 130 Attack - 95 Defense - 115 Special Attack - 110 Special Defense - 125 Speed - 60 Mega Lunatone Rock/Psychic Ability: Levitate HP - 90 Attack - 25 Defense - 135 Special Attack - 145 Special Defense - 135 Speed - 30 Mega Solrock Rock/Psychic Ability: Levitate HP - 90 Attack - 145 Defense - 135 Special Attack - 25 Special Defense - 135 Speed - 30 Mega Pyroar Normal/Fire Ability: Flash Fire HP - 86 Attack - 68 Defense - 82 Special Attack - 160 Special Defense - 76 Speed - 135 Mega Meganium Grass/Fairy Ability: Magic Bounce HP - 80 Attack - 82 Defense - 140 Special Attack - 83 Special Defense - 140 Speed - 100 Mega Aurorus Rock/Ice Ability: Solid Rock HP - 123 Attack - 43 Defense - 150 Special Attack - 120 Special Defense - 150 Speed - 35
Lapras may not be great for competitive but that's because it has to compete with Cloyster, which got crazy buffs over the years. In game it is an absolute unit that even has an outstanding natural movepool.
I think Boltund, it’s only saving grace right now is probably strong jaw, which don’t get me wrong, it’s an amazing ability, it makes almost every biting move better than freaking thunderbolt, but past that, it just isn’t that good
Yeah, Boltund is pretty disappointing in the long run. The only thing it has going for it is his 121 speed stat. The rest of its stats are below 100. What also doesn't help is its abysmal learnset overall (Level up or via TR or TM) and that he has 90 Special and Physical, despite only being able to learn Physical moves in its level up moveset with its only attacking moves that are worth it being Play Rough (Which even has a chance to miss, so if it does Boltund probably goes down due to its abysmal defenses), Crunch and Wild Charge (Which it only learns at lvl 48, so you are stuck with Spark until then, unless you are willing to grind Dynamax Raids for that T-Bolt TR, since you can't even get Volt Switch unless you do the Rotom Rally) and Thunder Fang isn't available until you have done the Opal gym either (And considering its only a 75 base power move and you are most likely around level 40/48 at that point, its better to wait for Wild Charge or buy Thunderbolt at that point.
It needs better attack. But honestly it should get a better special attack and a much much better special movepool to make use of Competitive. It could be one of those mixed bag pokemon that can take people off guard. It's already one of the faster pokemon in the game. It could be weaker Dragapult and Zeraora in lower tiers.
@@sterling8389 Problem is that if you make Boltund Special, its Strong Jawe ability becomes absolete, which means that at that point, you need to change its ability to Intimidate.
@@nickdentoom1173 I have to disagree. A pokemon that can do more than one thing can be Dangerous. You switch in a Blissey thinking that it's Special only to get hit with Thunder Fang. It not having a good Special movepool in turn actually makes Competitive Obsolete, which I wouldn't want to happen. Not to mention that having a Good special movepool could make it have a use in Doubles as well. Things like Intimidate and Bulldoze is really common, so having a fast Special attacker to abuse this commonality would be cool. Meowstic does exist, but Bolthund is faster.
I'd appreciate a better electric physical move spread for Luxray. It already has a decent ability(except Rivalry nani) and a pretty good coverage learn-table. Also since it's on the slower side, some extra bulk would be fantastic.
Because in Gen 1, all rock types were also part ground type if they didn’t have another associated type, which is pretty silly. The Rhyhorn line I get, but not having a single pure rock type in the first gen is pretty nuts.
i’ve never heard anyone pronounce delibird so that it rhymes with ‘delivered” until you at 1:10 and that makes SO MUCH more sense than how ive always said it. deli + bird never really felt right but i would just go with it anyways but the way you say it makes so much more sense with this pokémon’s design
4:30 Pyroar is my favorite Pokémon, because lions are my favorite animal. But its so hard to use (even with egg and move tutor moves). It wish it had at the very least better coverage moves. Currently, it can't set up Solar Beam, so at the very least, it should have Energy Ball, so it doesn't risk fainting. I also like the idea of it becoming a mixed attacker, so it can take advantage of many of its coverage moves.
Solrock as a physical attacker and Lunatone as a special attacker is unfortunately how it should be. Solrock now gets Flare Blitz and Lunatone gets all sorts of tasty special moves such as Moonblast, Ice Beam, and Nasty Plot. Their buffs should be as follows; Solrock: increased special attack so it can use Solar Beam as a coverage option, as well as a self buffing move like bulk up or Flame Charge to help boost speed. Also a better physical Psychic stab move because zen headbutt is pretty lame Lunatone: increased special attack and speed or hp; it’s moveset is already good enough it just lacks in stats.
Definitely agree that Meganium and Aurorus (😍) need a buff of some sort. Would like to see another part to this video, maybe turn it in to a mini-series. And of course, Pokémon that should/could be nerfed would be a great pairing. 👍
Solrock does technically have access to Flare Blitz, but since that’s a recoil attack, I guess some people don’t really use it much. Also, I sure would’ve liked it better if Lunatone had access to Power Gem in Generation VI first and not Generation VII.
My favorite Pokemon that I wish was better is Kingdra. Kingdra looks less intimidating than it's pre evolved form Seadra, and while it is majestic I always wanted Kingdra to look more like a dragon. I know a lot of Dragon type Pokemon don't look like traditional dragons and I love them for that but I always thought that Kingdra deserved arms and claws and maybe even wings instead of fins. Eventually I discovered that the beta version of Kingdra was just that. In a way my wish did come true even though it didn't make it in the games, the Kingdra I wanted is still real.
I’d say that the Galar starters are the more superior pure types starter trio as all of them have great signature and coverage moves. Especially Inteleon since it can learn moves like Dark Pulse, Shadow Ball, Ice Beam, and even Air Slash
I think solrock and lunatone make more sense as they are, and only needing new moves. honestly going for the "the sun is flaming gas and the moon is a rock" is a purely utilitarian view, when there's centuries of culture, history and folklore where the sun represents strenght and masculinity, while the moon represents magic and esoteric power
Someone preferring male Pyroar to the female version... How rare. 10:39 Or FireRed/LeafGreen's rediculous stance on evolving into Pokémon that are in the game before you got the National Dex...
They would solve most of the imbalances if they just fixed the type chart. Ice, Rock, and Grass need improvements whereas Fairy and maybe Steel need some nerfs. Here are some ideas: - Cut damage by Stealth Rocks in half and make it no longer hit double to two-times weak Pokémon like Bug / Flying types. - Make Ice resist Water and remove its weakness to Fighting. - For Grass, remove the weakness to Flying and make it hit Poison types for neutral damage. - For Rock, remove the weakness to Ground and Grass. - For Fairy, make Normal super effective.
Poison is still only super effective against two types, which is a problem if you ask me, but maybe worse is Ghost and Dark have the SAME super effective types so they are offensively redundant...
the fact that half the list is Rock type kinda says enough. the rock type is more a curse than a blessing to a lot of pokemon, it seems
It’s because Rock is a very potent offensive type but very bad defensively, second only to Ice in this respect. I don’t know if that’s what GameFreak was going for when they designed this type, though, because most of the ground types seem made to be slow but bulky tanks which can dish out and deal damage, which only accentuates its weaknesses. Aurorus and Hisuian-Avalugg are the prime examples of this, with both being extremely slow and bulky Ice/Rock type Pokémon, a double whammy of awfulness. This type combo is probably the absolute worst defensive combination in the entire game but is actually quite strong offensively, meaning they only had a shot at being good if they were really fast and couldn’t take a hit anyway like Weavile, which is an actually good Pokémon with similar weaknesses due to its typing (but even then, Ice/Dark is only bad defensively rather than literally the absolute worst I can even think of besides maybe Ice/Bug)
I prefer physical Solrock and special Lunatone personally. I like the idea that Solrock's preferred fighting method is to plummet onto opponents like a flaming meteor and Lunatone uses mysterious moon powers.
Or they get the Minior treatment where Solrock and Lunatone gets a cracked design on her body and minior's ability.
If they crack they change their type to Fire-Psychic (Solrock) and Ice-Psychic (Lunatone).
Minior changes his type to Rock-Psychic and his cracked form has Fairy-Psychic.
@@cannabishornliu6119 the moon isn't ice stupid
@@literallygrass1328
Ice would be one opposite to fire.
That's why.
It's only an idea because I think it's missed potential that Minior doesn't change his type after he looses his stone shell.
@@cannabishornliu6119 water is the opposite of fire, and the moon controls the tides. Therefore, lunatone should be water psychic.
@@cannabishornliu6119 water is the opposite of fire, and the moon controls the tides. Therefore, lunatone should be water psychic.
I used onix in let's go, and while the spectacle of using an onix was fun, the fact that the leagues flying and poison types couldn't be at least 2 shot by it really pointed out her weakness
I used Onix in Diamond until the 6th gym because I thought it was strong due to its size. Since Diamond was my first Pokémon game, I was still learning.
@@pilot_aki Did u know about its evolution Steelix back then before??
@@exeggutivejudge3747 Yes, but I didn’t know how to find a metal coat. If I recall correctly, there were wild Steelix in Victory Road.
Steelix stats should be 540 like Gyarados
@@pilot_aki Iron Island too.
10:12 Onix was nerfed because he was the 1st "boss" pokemon and it shows with pokemon like Oddish having a higher base attack stat than Onix.
That's a shame too. They put it in a difficult situation and ended up nerfing it
Still kinda dumb, even if that is the answer. They shoved everything into defense when everything it was weak to in gen 1 was special. It still faints so easy to anyone breathing at it. They really should just have gone for higher attack and split those defenses.
@@jpcsdutra bro it's a pebble how do you expect it to tank mind powers and water splashes
I think that’s the biggest disappointment about Onix. It is the first truly intimidating Pokémon you encounter, and it is awful to actually use.
Tbf, they could've made him a special attacker with only physical attacks
Like the opposite of having a Surf Sneasel in the first gym
Funny how Pyroar even has Moxie which is an ability that ups its physical attack
The only moxie Pokémon that doesn't use it's ability
Its mane looks like a shield! Everything about its design says "physical force"
wait, WHAT.
GameFreak, I'm calling the police for the possession of DRUGS.
Pyroar should be a physical attack Pokémon not special
Would make more sense for it to use moves like fire fang crush claw etc too, should’ve been a physical attacker 100%
My best experience with meganium was how in soulsilver, he tanked clair's kingdra dragon pulse, and returned a 30% overgrow poweredup petal dance to KO it. he may didnt do much until then, but in the most difficult battle he actually came through
Meganium is the reason (well chikorita) is the reason why I had a hard time starting on silver and gold when they first came out. I'm a dye hard grass starter fan lol
Meganium Is actually great in Emerald kaizo of all places, it can have thick fat and has access to screens and other utility moves
@@aligaterr5137 it also great in radical red for being a triage grass/fairy mon
@@loveruwi thanks for the info
Lapras was good in the good old days
Back when spaming blizzard was called a strategy
You haven't fought a gmax lapras in Vgc •×•
Well, if you use Hail first...
@@Compucles blizzard was 90% accurate in Pokémon green
@@sinnohperson8813 it’s literally one of the best GMax mons. Free Aurora Veil with no need to set up hail!
That's not entirely true.
We also spammed hyperbeam
Glaceon. By design it's my favorite eeveelution, but it's stat spread is weird. Every eeveelution has 1 stat raised to 130, 1 to 110, 1 to 95, and the rest are 65. Glaceons best stat is special attack, same as espeon. This is fine because ice can go either way. But its other raised stats are its defenses. Why? Ice should be fast and hard hitting. So its second best stat should be speed, and its third should either be health or physical attack. Neither of those combinations are used by other eeveelutions, and its what glaceon should have
I love this list. All these pokemon need some love.
Ikr, the johto starters still need megas. Kanto's got EVERYTHING. I love johto but gamefreak clearly doesnt
@@nickb6839 I'm afraid Megas are dead and Johto is the weakest individual region, needing Kanto to stay relevant.
@@redkingdom15 Johto has the most beautiful lady in the region in Olivine City.
@@jeffreygao3956 Also my favorite city in all of pokemon. Ecruteak city is amazing.
tbh, Lapras isn't THAT bad. But the main thing is indeed the speed and maybe buff its Special attack as well. Its Moveset can also use some sprucing up, especially on the Water typing side of things (Its only deced level up Water moves are Water Pulse and Hydro Pump. It honestly amazes me Lapras can't learn Scald whatsoever, especially since Late game Water Pulse is pretty much pointless and Hydro Pump has low accuracy. Scald would be a nice middleground for both of them.
Pyroar i totally agree with you. Its good on the speed and special side, which is funny, since the majority of its level up moveset is Physical, so i would buff its attack stat from 67 to at least 85 and take at least 6 points away from its Speed stat (Would still make it a solid 100 speed and 9 points from special (Would make it 100 special). Maybe even change Unnerve to Strong Jaw or Intimidate to make it even more viable.
The rest i totally agree with as well.
@Final Paragon Yeah, but thats a form.
The Ice Type in general is a handicap. It gives you 4 more weaknesses and no resistances except ice
Why would an ice type of all things get scald?
@@jaschabull2365 Froslass gets Will o Wisp and Garmanitan gets to keep multiple fire moves, I'd have no problem with Lapras getting Scald.
@@Rarest26
To be fair, Galarian darmanitan can actually become fire type with its ability, and will o' wisp seems common among ghost types, which froslass is, so it's not as if those guys have no excuse.
Speaking of Pyroar, can we talk about Zebstrika since it suffers from similar issues? It’s a Pokémon inspired by an animal normally found in Africa, has a cool concept and design, has high speed and attack but its movepool barely helps it at all. It’s mostly special oriented and outside of Wild Charge, most of its usable moves are just Normal type. It coverage absolutely blows.
Pyroar's situation isn't that similar to Zebstrika. Sure, they have problems with coverage but so does a lot of Pokemon.
Zebstrika has a lot more problems, starting with the lack of a good physical STAB move. Atleast Pyroar still have reliable STAB in Hyper Voice and Flamethrower. Wild Charge is only 90 BP with recoil and no secondary effect.
The suggestion he made to improve Pyroar is a terrible suggestion. Physical Fire types are always pretty bad. Their physical STAB move of choice is Flare Blitz, which has has recoil and 109 Atk stat isn't enough to justify using a recoil move. It might get Blaze Kick if it's lucky, but that has the dreaded 90 Accuracy. I agree that Pyroar is lackluster, but making it physical is not the way to go.
@@2oorsymcbuster833 I was thinking the exact same thing. Making Pyroar physical would absolutely kill it.
Every Eletrick physical Attack suffer If they don't get a signature move, they could give a Headbutt like to Eletrick types
@@darktemplar446 Then make it a mixed attacker :P
@@Eric-py8yy Fun fact: they already made an electric Iron Head, but it's only learned by Togedamaru and Pincurchin. The move in question is Zing Zap, or "Shocking and Prickly" in Japanese, so you can't really make it widespread due to it not making sense on most Pokemon.
The best way to buff onix is to give it a little more HP, Speed and Atk and get ride of the ground type
Trust me it would be way better without the ground typing
Maybe Gen 4 onwards. Gen 1 was super stingy with the rock moves.
Although speed doesn't make sense with it's design
@@wezen89 it should at least get +75 to outspeed early game Pokémon because it's supposed to be a threat to new trainers
@@swampy725 Yes, it would be better without the Ground type, but that's too drastic of a change. You could say the same thing about a lot of Pokémon with poor type combinations, but they're stuck with the types that (generally) make sense for their designs.
70 Base Speed already outspeeds most unevolved early game Pokémon.
Onix us already pretty fast for a rock type so you really just need to increase the attack.
Aurorus is usually my fossil of choice in a playthrough, simply due to liking it more than Tyrantrum. Honestly, I feel like it would work best to create some kind of Ice-type version of the move Shell Smash, since that move itself wouldn't work on most Ice types, plus it isn't like Ice is an effective defensive type anyways.
But, lets be real for a sec, we all know that Ice needs at least one or two more resistances. Maybe it could resist Ground or Electric?
I could see that because Ice is so frail already that most people wouldn't mind lowering the defenses even more for a little more KO power.
@@emperorcubone yeah but in that case they would all need to be speedy too so they can actually attack so they aren’t 1HKO’d before they can do anything. So to me they need more resistances or like a move that sort of combines protect and Volt switch or their own version of extreme speed
The biggest Problem i have is that Aurorus is covered in gems and cant learn power gem. I mean like wth it would make it so much better just to have a strong special Rock-Typ move
Ikr? At the very least, Ice should resist the types it’s strong against (dragon’s a bit debatable, but still), and I still don’t get why it doesn’t resist water. Bug could be a good resistance, too.
As a kid, i always thought Ice resist Bug and Grass. It made sense that cold winter (Ice) kills plants and bugs to my six-year-old brain.
4:30 I remember using Pyroar in X and Y and hating it due to how long it took to get a decent fire move on them.
Like seriously it took to level 38 to get flamethrower, the only special fire type move it gets before than is ember.
So it would literally evolve from Litleo to Pyroar before it got it's 1st decent special fire type move.
Yeah in kalos I tried to use houndoom but the good fire tms are at the end of the game or the freaking post-game!
Yeah. Pyroar isn't a bad mon at all.. it suffers from having a bad moveset (Same with Lapras).
@@nickdentoom1173 lapras’ movepool is actually very good. The priblem is its stats and typing
Can it learn other fire type TMs?
@@benedict0902 Yeah but all the fire type TM's in Kalos are very late game or post game.
Meganium needs to learn Rock Slide by leveling up. Great coverage and you can imagine it using its vines or stomping to cause the attack. And every other dinosaur mon gets Rock moves to varying extents. Sceptile can learn via TM. Meganium deserves this.
Yeah, learn it at level 7 before the Flying gym!
@@emperorcubone but level 7 ROCK SLIDE is too broken,so rock throw at level 8-9 should be perfect
@@wezen89 Thats the joke friend.
But it doesn't actually have vines unless it was bred to learn Vine Whip like the Chikorita/Bayleef Ash has apparently was.
Rock Throw could suffice for low levels though 👀 just replace it with Rock Slide at higher levels and you’re good to go
have just started watching the video but i wish golduck got the psychic type and got abit buffed
also helioisk i think shouldve gotten a buff too, maybe it could have gotten an ability that changes the types based on the weather with how its current abilities react to sandstorm, sun, etc
Plain and simple Heliolisk should've been a Ground type instead of part Normal type. That would've helped it a ton and made its signature Electrify much more useful.
*slowbro, stunfisk and starmie slipping Gamefreak some bills in the background*
Fun Fact: Sunflora has a higher Physical Attack Stat than Pyroar. Freaking Sunflora!
But I think pyror is better in special
What is it with plant based pokemon and having higher physical attack than mons that look like they should have a far higher attack stat than the plant based mons.
1st Oddish having a higher attack stat than Onix now this.
@@vishals.k2345 I realized that. I just had to Double Check my work
@@3.2187_Kilometres I have no clue. Even though I will admit being hit by Razor Sharp Blades made of leaves would be pretty painful
Sunflore has an incredible SpAtk stat
It's higher than greninja and infurnape
Emperor Cubone is one of the most consistent, quality Pokemon creators on the internet ANYWHERE and I'm here for all of these videos! Huge fan, keep being awesome! 👌 👏
Pyroar’s hidden ability is Moxie which is absolutely hilarious
@Emboar in your comment section alright you got me
We all collectively agree ice is the worst type. They need to give it a single more resistance like water, ground or electric. To make it viable.
Ice and rock types are weak defensively and game freaks made them all slow bulky. Only few fast ice and rock types are present like vanillux, weavile, lycanrock. So trick room and slush rush are good ways to play them.
12:16
Oh, please! Give at least Onix the credit of not suffering the Rock/Ground curse of having 51 or lower base Speed, like the rest of the Pokémon within the Rock/Ground group. Even Aggron suffered this (since it is the Generation III equivalent of Rhydon), and it isn't even a Ground-type!
This alone makes Onix actually pretty unique, which makes the whole thing all the more sadder when it evolves...
Nice list mate, I do find it funny that gamefreak say it’s finding it hard to add every Pokémon into a game because of sheer numbers, but instead of adding new Pokémon they can easily improve existing Pokémon with evolutions. Like a Lapras evolution, solrock etc basically your list lol.
this one may not be awesome in design, but i really love migthyena. i mean, with a +10 on atk and +15 on speed, she could be used way more
Mightyena would need far more stats boosts than that to be useful.
100 base attack and 85 base speed still ain't great. Though he might have a tiny niche use in ZU with these buffed stats.
@@3.2187_Kilometres I doubt it would be good in ZU with that buff, 100 attack and 85 speed with moxie sounds decent for the lowest tier but have you seen the powercreep? There are much better mons.
@@3.2187_Kilometres actually, she got some pretty good abilities, intimidation and quick feet as her normal abilities and moxie as her hidden one. thats why im taking care of her slowly. i dont want her to be broken, i want to be able to use her. and yes, im talking about her as a female because i only use a female one because of something that happened back on emerald
I certainly don't think anyone hates Mightyena (not for design anyway) but making better could never hurt!
Mightyena is actually awesome in design. At least for my taste.
Lapras in gen 8 vgc is really good. I love using it on my team with weakness policy. Its Dynamax form gives your team aurora veil with ice moves while being able to control weather with water moves. It’s also incredibly bulky when dynamaxed and freeze dry, thunder and perish song are handy
9:58 Aurorus has Snow Warning so an ability at lets to set up Aurora Veil without hail is useless, as you can simply set up Hail then Aurora Veil and you have the hail breaking potencial Focus Sashes
Or lure Tyranitar to Earthquake it
The worst part about it though is that to this day it STILL doesn't learn Power Gem. Like, it clearly has Crystals on its body!
Lions are that impresive on the physical side, many other felynes and pantheras that are stronger. If anything, Pyroar is just as underwhelming as the animal is based on.
Funny enough just before the video i was saying that shouldn't pyroar be a bit more physical but they are still my fav pokemon no matter what ---litleo gang
Yeah. That way its hidden ability Moxie would make more sense.
The poison heal ability would probably make Meganium meta af. And buffing Onyx's attack stat and movepool would be great.
Clearly, Pokémon with poor type combos(i.e. Ice/Rock, Rock/Ground, Rock/Fire, etc.) should all be fast, frail, and powerful. Weavile had the right idea.
Weavile is a great model, because it does have plenty of weaknesses but can still do serious damage. It's a nice tradeoff...
Meganium should be fairy type, get draining kiss, and get triage
Radical red did it and it wasn't brocken and was ballenced
@@swampy725 Hard to be broken when everything's broken.
Then Typhlosion and Feraligatr needs a 2nd typing to match the set.
@@_fawkes Typhlosion - Ground
Feraligatr - Dark or Dragon
@@_fawkes gater get dragon and typhlosion get ground and earth power if it doesn't get it already
Completely agree with Meganium and Aurorus. I wish aurorus was a hardy healer for a fun doubles team.
In my opinion, I think making Onix into a case similar to Scyther (being a pre-evolution that is still on par with its fully evolved form, but with a different play style) would be really cool. A fast rock type is an interesting concept, and if it got an attack stat buff and some attack boosting moves like Dragon Dance, it could be a really interesting team member both casually and competitively.
I must contest Meganium for one sole example: Mr. Stake from TFS plays SoulSilver. That dumb dinosaur literally got hit with a Supereffective move that brought it down to ~4 Health. That thing came close to Death so often they joked frequently that nothing would ever be able to kill him. And he was so beloved that one of the members of that playthrough actually named his own dog after the Meganium
The signature ability you proposed for Aurorus sounds AWESOME.
Funnily enough, Bastiodon is an absolute menace in Pokemon GO PvP. Its super top tier 🤣
Bastiodon was in the thumbnail, its what made me think of it haha
Hey, we have the same favorite fossil pair.
Anyway, Meganium is one pokemon I'll go to bat for.
After using one pokemon colosseum, I loved it. Razor leaf, Giga drain, Leech seed and Body slam helped so much.
This got me thinking, how about "Top 6 pokemon you came to appreciate in side games"
When sun and moon were announced with minior i thought it was a pre form of solrock and lunatona and to this day i think its ability would be a huge boost to them
Technically the sun is a plasma ball, probably even more reason for Solrock to be special.
Lapras got a temporary buff in the way of a G-Max form. Sure, it’s only for 3 turns but it’s something? As for a permanent solution, you’re essentially right… 🙂
It's a ability to set up Aurora Veil in a form that is nearly impossible to knock out in One hit is pretty great, especially in doubles
Lapras was really good in a couple VGC formats with it's G-Max form. I think that might just prove your point, once it got a new form it thrived. Especially cause that make it almost unkillable
Right, and then next gen when they chuck out all the G-Max forms everyone will go back to ignoring it...
I think just making Solrock a special attacker and keeping Lunatone would be what I'd do. I'd also make Lunatone defensive and Solrock Special defensive
Give lapras a ice type signature move. Or a move like sound proofing immune to sound type moves for 5 turns.(yes use perish song, spam the heck out of the move)
Single stage pokemon are great early! But so many are later in the game. Imagine if you could only catch a pikachu or caterpie or miltank or hitmonchan, snorlax after the 6th gym?
My Lapras was my surfer in Fire Red, my first game ever, so it’ll always have a special place in my heart. It was also one of the strongest mons on my team. Gotta love that bulk.
Also, you could’ve even added ANOTHER big dinosaur to this list with Tropius, lol. What’s the deal?
I am very well invested in your videos. This is another great one! Sunflora is just the weirdest Pokémon by the way! Lol
The Onix one is funny, because I used Dragon Dance weak armor onix to sweep a low ladder team in showdown. Its low ladder National DeX AG, not LC or some other tier. I guess it could be useful in a low ladder competitive match but it's useless in game.
One of the worst Pokemon in Nuzlocke history.
This guys vids always hit the spot at night
It’s honestly sad that Aurorus is so fragile, it’s my preferred fossil Pokémon of Kalos and I used one in my Y team
I love this video! So many pokemon need a stat boost, a new form, just something! I'm glad Gamefreak is giving some love to Basculin and Stantler in Legends.
8:15, I believe the best option (especially NOW in gen 8) for meganium is a regional form based of a cactus/desert flowers. The idea is meganium would be a grass-rock or a grass-steel type, with the sand stream ability. If you also boots meganium base sp.def it could become a special variant of Ferrothorn.
It wouldn’t buff meganium tho
Lions would be 10,000 x more horrifying if they knew flamethrower
Awesome list!
Another thought with Onix is look at Scyther and Scizor or Porygon2 and PorygonZ. They have the same base stat total as their evolutions- so even if Onix got a huge stat buff it wouldn’t be a big deal- because it gaining an evolution would still be worth it- since its typing gets a lot better.
Porygon-Z has 20 more base stats total: 20 less in both defenses but 30 more in Sp.Atk. and Speed.
@@Pr1est0fDoom I didn’t realize that- interesting. Still- 20 is a very small base stat jump for an evolution haha.
I feel like Ónix and Steelix should’ve done what Scyther and Scizor did. Both of them having the same stat total but Onix is faster and Steelix slower but more defensive. It would’ve made so much more sense than having Onix be pathetically weak just because it’s the first “boss” of the first gym. Then give the second gym leader a 520 base stat total Starmie right after with no problem.
Give auroras high speed so it can be a fast glasse cannon, give it Power gem.
It really doesn’t look fast though
@@umwha purugly
@@sand747 point taken sir
Meganium should be Grass/Fairy and have easy access to draining moves and support moves, and get Triage as a hidden ability.
Onix is only a base 385… that's wild he should be a minimum 490-510 like it's a massive rock snake it's gotta be able to pack some heat
Onix was one of my favorite pokemon as a kid and i tried to use it when i got platinum. It was so bad. Lapras is currently one of my favorite water types and it hurts that its attack stats are so low with that deep coverage
I would say meganium should get ingrain, leech seed, synthesis and giga drain/some other draining move. Let it just be a brick of a pokemon that's weak offensively but just impossible to get rid of. Also give Aurorus Snow Warning as a hidden ability and Aurora veil. Get some more variety in hail setters.
I’ve always loved Meganium, it’ll always be my Johto starter
Speaking of dinos with snubbed stats, Tropius has always been done dirty IMO.
I find it odd that pyroar is a special attacker despite having Moxie as an ability!
There needs to be more accessible Special Rock moves. Most Rock Types with higher Special Attack only get access to Ancient Power and are denied Power Gem because reasons. We need more Special Rock type attacks.
Thank you! Onix is by far my favorite Pokémon. I love it but I do wish it was stronger :(
Steelix
Onix
Fun fact Onix has the highest physical defense of all Pokémon.
I am not talking base stat, with eviolite and max defense it has the highest stat at 690 (if I am not mistaken, did not look it up)
Pyroar's having special attack is even worse because it gets access to Moxie.
It's almost as if Pyroar was *supposed* to be physical.
I love Aurorus! I remember getting my first one, a female at that, but she did so poorly in battles, it made it hard to justify using her.
I dont always watch all of cubones videos but when i do they are always banger
Not to mention Pyroar has MOXIE, a PHYSICAL ATTACK BOOSTING ABILITY
I actually did a challenge run of sword and shield where I had to catch a new team after every gym, and one of my teams had a Lunatone. That Lunatone was actually really strong and was easily MVP in the gym battle.
Wow, that's an interesting challenge. But what gym did it shine in?
I'm currently doing a similar one. A new team after every gym but my new team must be the same type and number of pokemon that the upcoming gym leader is going to use
@@emperorcubone Gym 6 (I was playing shield so it was Melony)
Calm mind users are always really good, it's pretty sad that you have to use a tm/tr to get it on Lunatone
My first thought was actually Luxray. People seem to LOVE this thing. It has good attack and... decent speed... but has a truly awful movepool. It's built to be physical, but its only physical Electric attacks are Spark and Thunder Fang, which are super weak (and the latter doesn't even get 100 accuracy), or Wild Charge, which deals recoil damage, and is still only of moderate strength. Honestly, I'd use every Pokemon in this video (besides Onix) before I'd even consider touching Luxray.
You're right; Luxray has been underserved for years. I will say it has been improved in the recent remakes, but it's not that huge of a change, like significantly more type coverage...
For me, it’s a handful of the turtle Pokémon that I wish were better. Real descent ones are Torkoal and Blastoise.
Shuckle is to passive.
Avalugg dies to any special attack.
Torterra has poor coverage and a terrible defensive typing.
Turtonator’s health is to low and Shell Trap can’t be self activated.
Carracosta and Drednaw will get destroyed by Grassy Glide Rillaboom.
And Drednaw suffers from being an early game 2 stage evolution, anti-synergy with its Gigantamax form, and stats are a slightly slower Kabutops.
Pokémon like Lunatone, Solrock and Miltank are great when gym leaders use them but when I do they are crap 😭
Miltank is extremely bulk and fast, idk WDYM by it's crap, stab normal moves hit HARD
@@swampy725 no I’m saying they are amazing Pokémon I am bad at using them. I’m crap when using them lol
@@briansherrod1916 well then, copy their moves lol
I don't think there's an npc that can stop Miltank with Whitney's moves without two pokemon
@@bvd_vlvd oh true statement. I shall do that sometime!
Miltank is a monster in the early game, but the games catch up to it pretty quickly lol.
Onix has less attack than a joltik. 15 more points is not enough for it
I do also doubt we will see megas again, but what do you think they will go for? They could just do Dynamx again, i guess... but they have been bringing a new gimmick every generation and, as we saw with the 3rd gen remaster, whatever they bring to the Arceus game could end up in the DP remaster too
Lunatone is my absolute favorite Pokémon, and I agree with your suggestion! I was downright disappointed that Sun and Moon didn’t do a dang thing with them or Solrock!
as a joke i swept glacia with a lunatone in my emerald
Love the concept but can you provide base stat total which they currently have and then to what you wish them to have, when discussing about any mon
Tbh a lot of these stat issues could be solved by Mega Evolutions, but for some reason Game Freak decided to stop making them 🤦♂️
Heck, here are some concepts for Megas of the Pokémon featured in this video that I whipped up in 20 minutes:
Mega Lapras
Water/Ice
Ability: Ice Body
HP - 130
Attack - 95
Defense - 115
Special Attack - 110
Special Defense - 125
Speed - 60
Mega Lunatone
Rock/Psychic
Ability: Levitate
HP - 90
Attack - 25
Defense - 135
Special Attack - 145
Special Defense - 135
Speed - 30
Mega Solrock
Rock/Psychic
Ability: Levitate
HP - 90
Attack - 145
Defense - 135
Special Attack - 25
Special Defense - 135
Speed - 30
Mega Pyroar
Normal/Fire
Ability: Flash Fire
HP - 86
Attack - 68
Defense - 82
Special Attack - 160
Special Defense - 76
Speed - 135
Mega Meganium
Grass/Fairy
Ability: Magic Bounce
HP - 80
Attack - 82
Defense - 140
Special Attack - 83
Special Defense - 140
Speed - 100
Mega Aurorus
Rock/Ice
Ability: Solid Rock
HP - 123
Attack - 43
Defense - 150
Special Attack - 120
Special Defense - 150
Speed - 35
Lapras may not be great for competitive but that's because it has to compete with Cloyster, which got crazy buffs over the years.
In game it is an absolute unit that even has an outstanding natural movepool.
Pyroar is special instead of physical because that's where the sound-based moves are. So to keep the "roar" part...just give it Boomburst.
I think Boltund, it’s only saving grace right now is probably strong jaw, which don’t get me wrong, it’s an amazing ability, it makes almost every biting move better than freaking thunderbolt, but past that, it just isn’t that good
I ditched mine after I found Toxel, so I didn't have to try it in the late game. That is a shame though, it seemed pretty cool...
Yeah, Boltund is pretty disappointing in the long run. The only thing it has going for it is his 121 speed stat. The rest of its stats are below 100. What also doesn't help is its abysmal learnset overall (Level up or via TR or TM) and that he has 90 Special and Physical, despite only being able to learn Physical moves in its level up moveset with its only attacking moves that are worth it being Play Rough (Which even has a chance to miss, so if it does Boltund probably goes down due to its abysmal defenses), Crunch and Wild Charge (Which it only learns at lvl 48, so you are stuck with Spark until then, unless you are willing to grind Dynamax Raids for that T-Bolt TR, since you can't even get Volt Switch unless you do the Rotom Rally) and Thunder Fang isn't available until you have done the Opal gym either (And considering its only a 75 base power move and you are most likely around level 40/48 at that point, its better to wait for Wild Charge or buy Thunderbolt at that point.
It needs better attack. But honestly it should get a better special attack and a much much better special movepool to make use of Competitive. It could be one of those mixed bag pokemon that can take people off guard. It's already one of the faster pokemon in the game. It could be weaker Dragapult and Zeraora in lower tiers.
@@sterling8389 Problem is that if you make Boltund Special, its Strong Jawe ability becomes absolete, which means that at that point, you need to change its ability to Intimidate.
@@nickdentoom1173 I have to disagree. A pokemon that can do more than one thing can be Dangerous. You switch in a Blissey thinking that it's Special only to get hit with Thunder Fang. It not having a good Special movepool in turn actually makes Competitive Obsolete, which I wouldn't want to happen. Not to mention that having a Good special movepool could make it have a use in Doubles as well. Things like Intimidate and Bulldoze is really common, so having a fast Special attacker to abuse this commonality would be cool. Meowstic does exist, but Bolthund is faster.
I'd appreciate a better electric physical move spread for Luxray. It already has a decent ability(except Rivalry nani) and a pretty good coverage learn-table. Also since it's on the slower side, some extra bulk would be fantastic.
Yeah hopefully that will be addressed in the remakes coming soon!
8 Gens in & I still don't know why Onyx isn't a pure Rock type pkmn.
Because in Gen 1, all rock types were also part ground type if they didn’t have another associated type, which is pretty silly. The Rhyhorn line I get, but not having a single pure rock type in the first gen is pretty nuts.
I guess Steelix would be the main answer, because it's part Ground instead of Rock, so it needs to maintain that connection...
Lapras actually has a couple Ground moves in Drill Run and Bulldoze. Also has Fissure, but that doesn't really count.
Meganium really comes in cloth with moves like reflect, leech seed, poison powder/toxic. A great staller with the right stats
i’ve never heard anyone pronounce delibird so that it rhymes with ‘delivered” until you at 1:10 and that makes SO MUCH more sense than how ive always said it. deli + bird never really felt right but i would just go with it anyways but the way you say it makes so much more sense with this pokémon’s design
I know everyone says it the other way but it seems to be their intention to have it be done the other way so I'm trying to spread the word!
In Pokemon Soulstone I have a E.Arorus which is Fairy and Dragon and is super good
4:30 Pyroar is my favorite Pokémon, because lions are my favorite animal. But its so hard to use (even with egg and move tutor moves). It wish it had at the very least better coverage moves. Currently, it can't set up Solar Beam, so at the very least, it should have Energy Ball, so it doesn't risk fainting. I also like the idea of it becoming a mixed attacker, so it can take advantage of many of its coverage moves.
Solrock as a physical attacker and Lunatone as a special attacker is unfortunately how it should be. Solrock now gets Flare Blitz and Lunatone gets all sorts of tasty special moves such as Moonblast, Ice Beam, and Nasty Plot. Their buffs should be as follows;
Solrock: increased special attack so it can use Solar Beam as a coverage option, as well as a self buffing move like bulk up or Flame Charge to help boost speed. Also a better physical Psychic stab move because zen headbutt is pretty lame
Lunatone: increased special attack and speed or hp; it’s moveset is already good enough it just lacks in stats.
With Meganium you can make it a dragon or a fairy type, take your pick at that point, either way it’d be more useful than pure grass
Definitely agree that Meganium and Aurorus (😍) need a buff of some sort.
Would like to see another part to this video, maybe turn it in to a mini-series. And of course, Pokémon that should/could be nerfed would be a great pairing. 👍
Lunatone is a special attacker because the moon is related to magic while solrock is physical because the sun is related to physical power and wrath.
Solrock does technically have access to Flare Blitz, but since that’s a recoil attack, I guess some people don’t really use it much. Also, I sure would’ve liked it better if Lunatone had access to Power Gem in Generation VI first and not Generation VII.
My favorite Pokemon that I wish was better is Kingdra. Kingdra looks less intimidating than it's pre evolved form Seadra, and while it is majestic I always wanted Kingdra to look more like a dragon. I know a lot of Dragon type Pokemon don't look like traditional dragons and I love them for that but I always thought that Kingdra deserved arms and claws and maybe even wings instead of fins. Eventually I discovered that the beta version of Kingdra was just that. In a way my wish did come true even though it didn't make it in the games, the Kingdra I wanted is still real.
To be fair I do not expect any animal to shoot out beams of energy
Well that's your first mistake; always be prepared!
Used Solrock and Lunatone on my PMDDX run. Oh boy they absolutely ROCK and hit like a space truck. No pun intended.
I’d say that the Galar starters are the more superior pure types starter trio as all of them have great signature and coverage moves. Especially Inteleon since it can learn moves like Dark Pulse, Shadow Ball, Ice Beam, and even Air Slash
I think solrock and lunatone make more sense as they are, and only needing new moves. honestly going for the "the sun is flaming gas and the moon is a rock" is a purely utilitarian view, when there's centuries of culture, history and folklore where the sun represents strenght and masculinity, while the moon represents magic and esoteric power
Someone preferring male Pyroar to the female version... How rare.
10:39 Or FireRed/LeafGreen's rediculous stance on evolving into Pokémon that are in the game before you got the National Dex...
Lapras was top tier in swsh VGC's gmax formats though, even before that its perish trap combo with sandaconda was amazing. Its a good mon!
They would solve most of the imbalances if they just fixed the type chart. Ice, Rock, and Grass need improvements whereas Fairy and maybe Steel need some nerfs. Here are some ideas:
- Cut damage by Stealth Rocks in half and make it no longer hit double to two-times weak Pokémon like Bug / Flying types.
- Make Ice resist Water and remove its weakness to Fighting.
- For Grass, remove the weakness to Flying and make it hit Poison types for neutral damage.
- For Rock, remove the weakness to Ground and Grass.
- For Fairy, make Normal super effective.
Poison is still only super effective against two types, which is a problem if you ask me, but maybe worse is Ghost and Dark have the SAME super effective types so they are offensively redundant...