2017 Lexus IS 300 F-Sport - The Current Japanese "BMW" Sport Sedan
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2017
- After 3 years on the market, Lexus gives its entry level offering a nip and tuck to address a few criticisms. While the design may still be polarizing to some, Lexus ups the value by making Lexus Safety System + standard across the board. While the German rivals offer significantly more power, the current IS 300 should continue to offer the Lexus reputation of reliability and quality for years to come.
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I don't get the complaints of the styling. This car looks great imo
I think the new Lexus are the best looking cars out there.
Switched my C300 for IS350.
Mr Bey, like Yuri Tereshyn, is often a foil to actual mainstream taste, but he's largely consistent as a foil to mainstream taste.
@@seanim6846yo is C300 a bad first car?
I wonder why Lexus keeps on sending you their vehicles to review when your hate for them is well known.
I've always loved the way the is300 looks
Sofyan congrats on reaching 300k. I've been a subscriber since the honda fit days. I'm proud of you 😊
I got this car this year. Average gasoline is around 16.5 mpg for me and the whole car is fine. Definitely not as powerful as my old E92 M3 but who cares, it's speed limits and potholes everywhere in NY. Overall it's a good car for daily drive.
I, for one (and being a Lexus owner), really like the exterior, front and back. I do agree that the F-Sport would be better served with just the IS350.
David Wolf the one thing I don't like is the tail lights when lit up at night on the refresh model the 2014-2016 IS taillights looked better
Just like BMW (M340i), Mercedes (C43), Audi (S4)? But you could get sports packages on lower models of all the Germans too.
I had a choice of getting the is200t or is200t f sport. I end up getting thr 2017 Is200t non fsport. I just like the non moving dash board better. It look more lexury but yet sporty.
Very good shots. Especially when it came to you reviving it with the train in the background. It’s the little things.
Thank you for this review. I was torn about choosing the Fsport. I know now what I want. A+
how reliable are 8,9, and 10 speed auto transmissions though?
Wait so if I get it tuned it’s pretty much the same as an is 350?
How did it not age well ? It looks 5 years newer than a 3 series lol
Clous von so much better then a 3 series
Until you see the halogen turn signals and this interior looks cheap idk why maybe it’s the matte black color
@@Felix-ry9pc MOAR KARBON FIBAR
Just realized you were driving in northern va kinda funny I recognized the buildings in the background
Love your reviews! Could you also please review the Alfa Romeo Giulia (preferably the TI trim)
Do any of the Lexus cars have a manual transmission option? I want a midsize sedan with manual transmission.
I like the style of IS, but I also have the same problem with that AWD bump near the driver side. I hope Lexus can have better info system instead if touch remote.
Dude love your reviews. I love how you add your personality to it. Makes it more honest and enjoyable. Some guys talk in their reviews like it’s scripted. Please do a review of the IS350 F sport with the 8 speed. Fuck the AWD version. And a GS350 Fsport with 8 speed as well!!
I bought a used 2017 IS200t F-Sport (gray with red leather) five months ago & it's been amazing so far. I bought it for only $27,500 with 15k miles in great shape & it was around $45k when new. It replaced a 2015 Toyota Camry XSE V6 & it's a huge improvement overall!
That's an awesome deal for a lexus with ony 15K miles, I think. How do you like the turbo engine? Can you compare it to the IS300? Is it V6? The Camry XSE V6 was top of the line too, and you liked the IS200 better?
I am planning to get a IS300 but it's more expensive. Which one would you recommend? Thank you.
what is your insurnace like?
@@khoiquach The turbo is a good engine with more than enough power for most people. I actually just replaced the car with a 2016 GS350 F-Sport, partly cause I wanted to go back to a V6 which sounds far better than the turbo & is much better suited for a luxury car. The cupholders are in a poor location in the IS & are small, but much better in the GS which was my only major complaint about the car. I also wanted to go back to a midsize sedan. It's white on red, has 41k miles & I paid $28k. It still has the original window sticker & shows it was $58k when it was new. Looks & feels a lot more expensive than what I actually paid for it & has over 30 more features that my IS didn't have.
@@DisneyMusicVideos I bought a 2016 GS350 and had to return it since the steering wheel feel heavy to me, coming from a RX350 which steering is very light. I love its 311 hp powerful engine and the look but had to replace it with an ES350 which is very smooth and light steering. I had a 2020 GS350 for a loaner for a day and don't like it so much. I love the smoother ride of an RX or ES, GS tire is thin sport tire so it's not as smooth. I guess I'm old then...LOL
The only thing I regret not to have is the Mark Levinson on both of my cars, the premium audio in my RX is okay, the base stereo in my ES is crappy. ML is awesome in the loaner I had.
@@khoiquach Yea, mine has the ML which I wanted for a long time & it sounds amazing. My grandma has a 2012 ES350 & the ride is more cushy in her car. The ride in my GS is on the firm side, but still rides smoother than my IS did.
Nice Review Of 2017 Lexus IS 300. 😀
hello, wich tipe of cameras are those that you got on the windshield ? thanks
Mean while in 3 series, you get orange gauge cluster and parksensor
So I know you did a comparison of 0-60 from the 2017 Honda Accord v6 sedan vs the 2018 2.0 T but I’m looking into getting the the 2017 coupe v6 touring. The v6 coupe suppose to be 0-60 in 5.6 which is faster then both the 2017 sedan and 2018. Can you please to a 0-60 compassion between the 2017 v6 coupe touring vs the 2018 2.0 T
Can u test chraysler 300c luxury with a V8?
Nice review.
Lexus has a twin turbo V6...in their LS500, the first of its kind on any Lexus.
I'm currently waiting to see how the 4th gen IS turns out in a couple of years (2019~), I know it'll get the new TNGA modular platform, but I'm hoping that Lexus takes a cue from Infiniti and puts a detuned TT V6 into the next IS350. The HP can remain around 300 or so, but the main benefit is to get a ton of low end torque at low RPM ranges. I'm also hoping it'll go to the new 8 speed DirectShift transmission that debuted in the 2018 Camry, and I want Lexus to use it for both RWD and AWD models. These things, along with Apple Carplay / Android Auto, will make the Lexus a serious threat to all of its competitors, especially the Germans.
elusivellama The 4th gen IS won't be out till the next generation GS gets introduced. (Likely MY 2020 or 2021 for next IS) The IS follows the GS platform. Second thing is - the new IS won't get the TNGA platform because it was just introduced to the New N platform. Strictly talking business, it won't be smart for Toyota/Lexus to jump the platform after only one generation of use. Its likely Toyota/Lexus won't give the IS and GS the TNGA platform anytime soon. Or if ever, if Toyota/Lexus decides the New N Platform is where the IS/GS/RC stays because not every car shares the same platform.
Next thing - I don't think Lexus will introduce a detuned TT V6 to the IS350 anytime soon. It was just introduced into the LS, which is their flagship. Again, business speaking again, Toyota/Lexus would want to ride the LS500 hype of it being its first TT V6 to draw attention first. Once the LS500 is a few years in, Lexus will likely then introduce the detuned engine into its lower tier cars. IE: GS/IS. Most likely the GS will get it first as its top tier engine before the IS.
Get the Camry's "new" 8 speed DirectShift transmission? You do know the Lexus IS (all models) has the the 8 speed directshift transmission already right? Its likely the Lexus IS transmission is better and geared more aggressively since the Camry is just an average joe family sedan. Hence: the Lexus IS 8 speed transmission is the Sport DirectShift.
I personally think Apple Carplay/Android Auto is not something that will make Lexus a serious threat because the average consumer doesn't use Apple Carplay and Android auto as a deal breaker. You have to look at the demographics of the people that usually buy Germans or Lexus. This is why Toyota has Apple Carplay because majority of people that buy Toyota will likely care about it. However, its not likely Lexus buyers will care a whole lot. Besides, Lexus is trying to push their App Suite instead of doing a partnerships.
What? You really think that the IS won't get the TNGA until after the GS gets it, if ever? :( What you say about the LS500 riding the TT V6 hype makes sense, but I was really hoping for a taste of the global platform in the next gen IS...
So wait... the Camry's 8 speed is designed for FF applications, and the 8 speed on the Lexus IS came first and is the true DirectShift?
elusivellama Not just me. Quite a bit of people on the Lexus forums think this as well. Me and many others obviously would want a new platform on the Lexus IS. *Who doesn't like new things?* But, the Lexus IS was just introduced onto the New N Platform as of 2014, right after the GS was introduced to it in 2013. Strictly business speaking, it won't be smart for Toyota/Lexus to throw the Lexus IS off the New N Platform after only using it for 1 generation. (That would be a waste of money.) Previously, the Lexus IS was on the N Platform for 2 generations before jumping to the New N platform this generation. So, in theory, the Lexus IS *could* get the TNGA but the GS would have to get it first. My best guess is the Lexus IS will get it 5th generation - if it does get it. Its complex because the Lexus IS follows the GS in terms of platform. So, if the GS changes, the IS will. But the RC, is the basically the Coupe IS. So, if the GS changes, the IS and RC will both change too. This is why money is a big factor in how long they will use a platform.
The Lexus IS 8Speed DirectShift Auto was introduced in 2014. Its a more aggressively geared automatic transmission than the Camry's version because Lexus markets the IS as their "Sports Sedan." The Camry's version is geared to be more eco-friendly and comfortable due to the demographics of buyers within its segment. *Cars is just business. A aggressive and jerky 8 speed sport auto in a Camry won't sell well because majority of the people that buy Camrys won't like that.*
I’m a simple man, I see Redline I see Lexus. Automatic Likes👍🏻
hey @redlinereviews or other commenters this may seem unrelated to this car, but what vehicles would you consider quiet yet sporty at the same time? When I say this, I mean cars that have lots of power and accelerate very well, yet have a mostly quiet and compliant ride. Please share any thoughts. Thanks!
Jude Mathews comparable to this, Q50, A4, 3 series, C class
Is apple car play available on this 2017 model?
Finally been waiting forever for this lol
These are not "cooled" seats as the reviewer claimed- these are ventilated seats which do not cool. It's only a fan and it blows the inside air around. So if it's hot inside your car, you'll got hot air through the seat fan. It's really only effective if you start off driving a cool car out of the garage. Otherwise don't count on these cooling you down like a Nissan cooled seat will.
BMW Transmission Fails at 60000 miles
Lexus Transmission going going going for 300000 miles
Ajax Akin 👏🏼👏🏼 tested and proven!!!
Had 4 BMW’s 3 to 150000 & recent before selling my heavily tuned one with 251k no failed transmission lmao. I love Lexus but you’re comment is really inaccurate lmao.
Jon Teturci I want to buy used bmw 3 series such as 2016 320i. Are they reliable?
Kevin Thant get that with low mileage if you can. Repair cost for 320i is far cheaper than other models.
@@jonteturci9813 I’ve had an F82 M4, X5 30i and my girlfriends has an X1. Out of all the cars, the X1 had a very expensive oil leak at 140k, but the rest all lasted until I sold them at 160k kilometres. UA-cam is full of idiots who spew nonsense
Redline Reviews how does it compare to the Q50? Which would you choose?
Tyrone Long both are reliable. The Q50 will get you more power with their 3.0TT. I’d say it comes down to performance and styling.
Oh how I cant wait to test this model! Love any F-Sport Lexus!
please review the new crosstrek
I prefer the styling of the pre-refresh model (2014-16). These tail lights are hideous. But the IS is not a bad car. My friend owns a 2014. It's small and cramped inside but it's a really nice car
REDLINE IS IN LOUDON VA? I love you guys based in Fairfax :)
That model confuses me. If your spending That much for an IS why not spent the extra few dollars and get the 350 ? Fuel economy is the same.
I’m not sure why they wouldn’t send you the is350 f sport RWD, that’s the most impressive and sporty model.
Have you had a chance to drive the M240i or an M2? I'd like to see your take on it; every reviewer is raving about it as a "true BMW"
GreenTea We have driven an M2 about a year ago when it first came out. Didn’t have the car long enough to do a full review. Hopefully BMW will start sending us press loans soon.
i love that blue colour. hate the fact that here in canada, if we want that colour we are left with only the black interior. In the US, you guys are privileged to have the red or that tan colour interior..so lucky.
How will it depreciate? Reliable cars hold their value more?
He was criticizing the lack of turbo or power for the car but refuses to address the various complications and problems brought about with turbos and that’s my problem with these reviewers for not addressing the downsides of turbos and other complicated techs to an average buyer who are just looking for a reliable car.
Did lexus say anything about a new ISF??
you've never liked the IS. even dating back to year's ago when you reviewed the first gen..love your opinions though. very informed, very thorough and most importantly, very honest, and all delivered in an interesting and entertaining style.
Luke We just never liked the IS 250 and IS 300 in this generation. We feel they’re too underpowered for the class. Especially when the new Camry and Accord top engines will smoke this in a straight line. We actually had a chance to drive the IS 200t or IS 350 RWD yet and the latter is the one we’d like to test out the most.
Sofyan did you ever get to actually drive this on a decent road? Most of your reviews, you go to back roads and such, but this appears to just be the freeways. In addition, you say it feels slow, but I didn't see any acceleration runs.
For this car so competitive and luxurious it should have power folding side mirrors and heated rear seats. Plus, I hope it has a lot of storage. Pls. listen to me and to other people's comment Lexus I'm about to buy this car!!!
Do u have a decibel meter ? Sounds loud in there
The tires that are put on the car from the factory are absolutely garbage. Honestly, it's still a bit quieter in terms of wind noise, etc. than most other cars, but the tire roar is really pretty bad.
The true IS300 is the 2001-2005 with the 2JZ
I think It was a marketing tactic "bringing back" the is300 to appeal to brand loyal Lexus owners but it would be cool if they stuffed twin turbo's in it like the new LS or a "3JZ" but they just made another midrange car
You should've reviewed the 350 F-Sport. the 300 AWD is the heaviest and the least fun trim in the line up, it only has the normal sport mode instead of the Sport+ on RWD models. Make sure to review the 350 F-Sport RWD for the 2018 model.
Acrux We’ve been asking Lexus for a rear drive IS 350 F-Sport for years now. They just seem to always have the AWD models in our DC area due to the weather conditions.
The paddles don't work? What?
I would be completely happy with this car! Lexus can send it my way! 😊 Much better than a Honda Civic! 😂
Also more expensive
i agree with you and dont get the complaint about the power and other specs.Not all wants to take their cars to the tracks,some of us just want a reliable car as the top preference plus a little luxury features as added option which i think this car provides.Whats th point in buying a car with all the latest techs and power but have a horrible reliability issues.I surely would go for reliability first above all the luxury features.I think Sofyan is only going for the fun of the turbo and others but i certainly think this car ticks a lot of the boxes.
I liked the review
Whats that green light that flashes in the dash all the time?
Probably the ECO light, to tell you if you're driving ECO-friendly. It can be turned off (which I recommend).
lexus for life
Manual plz!!
Can you review a 2015 Lexus ls460? 🤓
but will a 2jz turbo fit...?
Lol yes actually. There have been some people who have engine swapped 2JZ-GTE’s in their IS’s.
Design shall age well
I wanted one of these after my best friend leased a 2014... I stopped at Audi and bought a S line A4.
me watching this video having just bought a 2017 f sport 🤣🤣🤣 i been saving for years!!! i love it
Technically, the SC was Lexus’s first “sporty” model
Your nuts, this car looks crazy nice. Leaps and bounds better than any German cars
Definetly not better than German cars
Any updates regarding the nsx?
I thought you would show us the inside
There's nothing "redline" about this guy.
i have the same exact car! except i have black interior lol but i mostly have the same feelings as you power wise and such, the 2018 f sports are getting memory seats of course as soon as a i get a 2017
What's the diff between the new IS 300 and IS350? or did they remove the IS 350?
IS300 is AWD only. IS350 comes option of either RWD or AWD. Same engines but 300 is detuned so less power than 350.
Samuel Wu Isnt AWD better than RWD?
For the 2018 - Lexus IS300 RWD (Turbo Engine), Lexus IS300 AWD (V6), Lexus IS350 (V6).
Nah AWD is good for the winter but I live in a place that never snows so I will take RWD over AWD all day any day.
Nissan Skyline Oh yeah I forgot Lexus renamed the IS200t to “IS300 RWD.” Lexus’s naming has been really confusing now that the IS300 and LS500 have numbering that don’t match engine size.
My 350 F sport is coming at the end of the month. Excited!!!!!!
P.S Chose Lexus because I like driving my car not a loaner while my cars in the shop :)
Free Slukhan congrats!!!
I had my is350 in the shop for a replacement dash (Lexus did it for free :D)...They gave me a loaner 2017 RX 350, and tbh...I was DYING To get my car back.
Derrick Davis lol, loving my 2017. I've had it for 2 weeks now, Looking to get a exhaust on it but cant find anything made for the 2017 unfortunately.
Are you going to be reviewing the new Kia Stinger?
Zerg_Killer-5 Yes, next month we will be at the Stinger Media drive so expect a full review then :)
Redline Reviews awesome, cannot wait to get back from deployment, I've been looking forward to this car all year
still no LED turn signals?
fillup316 sadly no
"lets throw in a bunch of parts that will make the car more expensive to repair"
Beautiful car but not enough power for the money. I just saw the new Camry V6 in person (SO nice) and it looks just as good and has more power. Try again Lexus
find it amusing that you spend most of the time comparing this vehicle to the IS350 F Sport and the AR Giulia, two cars that you won't even review. funny that you can get your hands on 17 different iterations of the honda civic, but neither the IS350 nor the alfa 2.0
I'm surprised that he is unable to get an IS350 F Sport to review.
elusivellama I don't think he really reviews them. He reads the brochure and pretends he knows about the car from it and he listens/views/reads other reviewers opinion about cars and he just repeats them or just add little bit here and there. If you notice, he just talks and talks... almost nonstop. Case in point, he said the F Sport package in the IS 300 is not needed because it only firms up the suspension. He ignored the fact that if you leave the drive mode to Eco or Normal, the ride itself is smooth... as it is in all Lexus cars. The F Sport package is pretty much the same as the standard suspension package except for the Sports S+ and Custom mode.
bo darville they send him these cars , so blame Lexus I guess
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Has Nissan scheduled a Rogue Sport with you guys?
Why would they chop off horsepower ??
$$$
Does that mean you can tune the car and basically have a 350?
Absolutely. It's only limited by the ECU. RR Racing has a tune for this that essentially makes the output equivalent to that of the 350.
Pretty much.
ARentz07 i did it to mine, def worth the $500
@@mohkg1017 where did you buy the tune any links?
i have an OG 2004 is300
Lexus is getting better an better
Nooo--- keep the natural aspirated v6! It lasts much longer than a twin turbo. Reliability is the reason why Lexus stands apart from most
I've always liked the design of this car but I wish they would make an ISF with this body style.
I don’t think they should use all turbos because they aren’t as reliable or smooth.
GavinQuacks i agree. and the responsiveness of a naturally aspirated engine is great aswell :)
I just cant get over that fugly front. Best part of this car is the interior and rear view. That’s it. BMW 3 series is the only car in this segment that has really nailed their design.
I'm confused.... Why would they detune it?? :/
To compete with cars like the 328, C300, A4 2.0T
Ah ok makes sense, thx :]
Smaller build and $$$$
Honda boy and his gripes.
This cars style is fuckin Badass, cmon sofyan
How is this better than a Q50 in any possible way??
It offers Cooled Seats where the Q50 strangely doesn't. Q50 has a 7-speed auto, IS RWD has a 8-Speed. IS likely to be more reliable & have better resale value.
What is up with the title though? Bmw? I know BMW has been sucking as of late, but really?
Great video. Car didn't make much sense. From the detuned 3.5 to the f sport package to needing certain option group's that has items that should be standard. This should be a bust. But since it's awd.... it will probably prosper. It really shouldn't though.
The Infiniti RS would smoke this you’ve got to be kidding me...
Weird title tbh
changes? none..
price increase, oh yes...
Hope it does not beat Mercedes
Mr know it all here says he wants a twin turbo engine like all the competitors. He also wants a high engine repair bill. Lovely. Lexus if u listen to this guy you're bringing in a good buisness plan for real customers complaints other then a 6 speed automatic.
This ugly inside Lexus vs mighty Giulia TI for the same price. What is better? Anyone talking about reliability: Giulia gets 4 years bumper to bumper, 4 years is more than a lease and more than enough to change the car, always good to refresh stuff, if you want to drive more, Giulia still has a few years extra warranty for powertrain. What's the point of that Lexus?? IS should start from 30k, it competes with Infinity and Acura ILX, maybe up to an Audi, but not with MB, BMW
Vampire_born_in_2006 you sir are an absolute idiot!
can you just retune the engine to get the full hp? budget is350 lol
Sam Sheth thinking the same thing.
I really like the car BUT call me crazy I know it’s a small things but I hate the new look of the exhausts. Really kills the sporty look of the car from the back ... smh
Absolutely and respectfully disagree with the rear/rear lights comments. I think they new and refreshed rear lights look great. I actually think the new grill, headlights, front in general and rear looks much better.
The IS 350 and IS 200t still are better powertrains. The 300 has neither the torque of the 200t but identical 350 fuel economy. No thanks.
Trades46 its naturally aspirated so feels more lively than turbo, is more powerful when taking off.
No it is not; it feels like that likely for a second due to turbo lag, but the IS 200t makes peak 258lb/ft @ 1650rpm while the IS 300 only manages 236lb/ft @ 2000rpm. So not only the peak torque arrives earlier, but the I4 turbo actually more powerful taking off than the neutered V6.
Again, if I wanted the IS with the V6, I skip the options and go for the IS 350 instead.
I drove an NX 200t not too long ago as a loaner, and the engine in that was pretty responsive. I would definitely keep my V6 though, even if it's detuned. No turbo lag and much better sound.
I driven the NX200t and the engine felt good. Not as powerful or lag free as Audi or BMW 2.0L turbos but it gets good MPG and still has decent power. The problem I have is the IS 300 V6 is really inefficient & artificially limited in power while retaining the fuel consumption of the significantly stronger IS 350.
Can't wait to trade in my 2014 IS250 for 2018 IS350. gotta earn a little more $$$ first. lol
Save your money and get a cheaper car. The prices on these lexuses are crazy.
lead poisoning its worth it tho
Leo Francis you are talking about leasing right?
Jon Mario I test drove a couple lexuses and although they drive smooth, I feel no difference between a Lexus and a Civic, etc. Definitely not 50-80 thousand worth. I'll stick with my si every four-five years.
JC4 no. buying.
The IS350 is so damn slow compared to the 340i with the mppk
NS well they had that same darn motor since 2006 and I’m saying this as Lexus owner. Toyota needs to copy MB playbook and return to the Inline 6.
Rain Santiago yea the old 300 with the 2jz was so simple and super reliable and smooth
The 2nd Gen IS350 was pretty quick and could keep up with a E90 335i. It’s just that Lexus didn’t update the engine for the 3rd gen that it can’t keep up with BMW now.
Samuel Wu exactly it’s just down right silly for Toyota to not even upgrade the 2GRFSE or throw an FI Turbo or Supercharger at least. Hence why the IS is overpriced for what its worth might as well saved thousands by getting a 2 Gen IS350. Toyota/Lexus has just gotten too lazy to take risks on powertrains.