A guy who got KO'd by both Foreman and Shavers reveals who punched harder
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Leroy Caldwell fought some of the hardest punching boxers of all time. Here he compares being punched by George Foreman to being punched by Earnie Shavers
Ali, Norton, Lyle and Young fought both Foreman and Shavers. They all said Earnie hit harder.
Put some respect on this old boxers name and put his name in the title. It’s disrespectful to not.
not enough letters available to. and if we dont explain who he is in the title, most won't know
Indeed
Leroy is all there and not punch 👊 drunk like some other guys and in fact took some bombs from some of the best to do it ,,,,respect!!!
RIP Leroy Caldwell
Quick Tillis once told, "ever kicked by a horse? its like that but on your chin" he was referring to Shavers ...
damn … that’s gonna hurt a lot …
Funny Tyson said pretty much the same about Razor Ruddock "he punch like a mule kick"
If Foreman would've fought Shavers,it would've been like two guy's hitting each other with "atomic bombs"!!!!!!!😆
Growing up on a tiny Island in the south pacific with a population of 500 people I only know or heard of these boxers. Ali, Sugar, Roy Jones, Mike Tyson, Lewis and Foreman the one that hits you back to yesterday. Internet wasn't around back then but you heard about the punch ✊
Fastest delivery of a punch goes to corrie sanders. He had the quickest punch of a heavyweight I ever saw.
He was a brave man too took a bullet to save his niece a real hero rip
@@joewood5157Corrie Sanders was killed ??
@@joewood5157On 22 September 2012, Sanders was fatally shot in an armed robbery at a restaurant called Thatch Haven in Brits, South Africa, where a function was being held for his nephew's 21st birthday. He had been near the entrance of the restaurant talking to his 15-year-old daughter Marinique and a cousin when three robbers entered firing their guns.[14] Sanders had used his body to shield his daughter from oncoming bullets and then, while bleeding from bullet wounds in his right arm and stomach, pulled her to the ground and whispered for her to pretend to be dead.[15][16][17] Sanders was taken to a hospital in Pretoria, where he died in the early hours of 23 September 2012 of his wounds 😢
Wow I didn't knw that was definitely heroic!!! R.i.p champ
"Shavers hits🎯 wayyy harder than Foreman" 😳. Now that's saying alot behind 😮 a man's punch 👀
I love how people here start making excuses. Just deal with the facts. The man fought both Foreman and Shavers. He knew. You have no clue. He took their punches. You didn't. Besides he ain't the only man to make the claim that Shavers was the hardest hitter. There is no shame what so ever for Foreman to be placed second.
At the end of the day ,, George still hits hard very hard ,,, there is always going to be some one who slightly hits harder ,, you have to remember boxers now are much bigger and heavier....... George had it all a very good chin ,, toughness and a mauling punch ,, the Rone Lyle and George Foreman fight showed how tough George was .... :-)
Yes that was a good fight Ron Lyle and foreman earnie shaver's fought Ron Lyle to that was a good fight also but the secret to why foreman and earnie shaver's hit so hard like that is because they would use this wrist exercise with chopping down trees and it makes the grip in you're wrist stronger that's the secret to knocking someone out because the rotation of the wrist as the punch is being thrown a little guy can knockout a big guy just by doing that excercise alone in a street fight because if you have the skill and know how to throw slip block and move from punches you will know how to use you're fist and hit a pressure point and put a big man to sleep but they both hard it just depends on what the other fighter tells us because we are not in the middle of the ring so it can be anyone choice who fought them because they know how it feels
Shavers didn’t hit slightly harder he hit a lot harder
@@TemurTheConqeuror not sure if errnie shavers hit a lot harder than george forman , he may be hit harder ,, but a lot harder hmmmm!?! No,,,,,,,,, l've seen George just touch some fighters and they would go down ,, and George had a better chin than ernie .... George is genetically a strong person as was Ernie ...
@@glenglen4018 yes Shavers hit way harder than Foreman, and that’s exactly what i thought Foreman has to be the hardest puncher after Shavers (arguebly after Sonny Liston too but i believe George hit harder than Liston), so Shavers the hardest puncher and Foreman second hardest puncher but if u think about it in order to make difference in punching power u have to hit significantly harder, otherwise u can’t really make difference, this is the first argument by logic, second is watch Leroy caldwell who fought Shavers Foreman and Ron Lyle, i can tag u on the vid if u couldn’t find it, he said that Shavers hit way harder than Foreman and that they had different type of punches, Foreman got devastating heavy punches Shavers got shocking punch, Foreman dropped Caldwell 4-5 times before referee stopped it Shavers knocked Caldwell out cold and as caldwell said they were taking his gloves off and he wanted to put them on since he had no idea that fight was already over
But todays boxers have glass jaws and are bums
Foreman punches harder but shaver could punch faster. Punching faster feels like punching harder because the person wouldn’t react as quick.
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Did you not watch the video bro?? Caldwell, Ali, and Lyle have all stated that Shavers hit harder than Foreman!
There are three components of punching power it's Mass, Acceleration and brute Force, Incase of Foreman and Shavers, they are both hardest puncher in the history but Shavers has just more acceleration in his punches so he isn't totally hit alot harder than most of people though, Shavers might be more explosive but Foreman have heavier hands, his punches acceleration isn't that fast and explosive but somehow he can manage to make his opponent sleep with that lesser amount of acceleration thru his punches soo i might say Shavers hit really hard but his punching power wasn't that far from Foreman's
@@DiscordCipherwrong, Shavers hit way harder than foreman that it’s not even close. With foreman we can see the power in his build and in his training and fights. Shavers who was very small and regular built 208 6ft with no outstanding features hit way harder than him. No one even hesitated or had to think who hit way harder. On top of that mercer Tyson Klitschko etc have to be considered harder punchers than foreman as the fights show and what the fighters who fought both said.
@@hassanx9423 you proved my point but you're also wrong at the same time, about Tyson maybe he can hit harder but Klitschko i can say nah, if you know how heavy foreman's fist you'll know why he is considered one of the hardest punchers in the history, Shavers hit harder but again it's not that far like we used to think, i already see how strong are boxers in Liston Era and boxers in 90s are not even close but then we got Tyson with unimaginable power so i must say Tyson is one of the hardest hitters in the history but it's my opinion maybe my calculations were wrong but i can see the difference of their power by their fights but again Shavers and Foreman are the most feared deadly hard hitters in their Era
Ernie Shavers should have beaten Ali; many people actually think he won that fight. It took Shavers one round to dispose of Ken Norton. It took Foreman two. Shavers in three!!
Norton was older and slower when he fought Shavers. He had far more movement against Foreman in 1974 than he had against Shavers in 1979. He was an open target for Shavers from the opening bell. The video’s of each fight show the difference.
@@5star64also George could have easily KOd Norton in round 1 if he really wanted to, most of his fights Foreman just tested his opponent in round 1 and then went at it fully the second round
@ If Foreman could have knocked out Norton in one round it would have happened. In the 70’s George Foreman wasn’t the type of fighter who decided to prolong a fight. He threw big punches at Norton in the first round but wasn’t able to get him in trouble until the 2nd round. So he wasn’t able to easily stop Norton in the first round. If he could have he would have.
@@captainwaring Ridiculous comment’ we are talking about the same Earnie Shavers who was Knocked out in 5 rounds by the great Ron Stander. And in one round by Jerry Quarry. Ron Lyle knocked out Shavers in 6. Foreman knocked out Lyle in 5. Foreman was bigger and stronger than Shavers . Norton was in his prime when he lost to Foreman and past his prime and older and slower when he lost to shavers. Shavers was also soundly beaten by journey man heavyweight Bob Stallings in 1974. And took a count of 9 during a 9th round knock down.
@@5star64 Friend, the word ridiculous is argumentative and not conducive to good human relations, Read Dale Carnegie's book How to Win Friends and Influence People. All I'm saying is when I watched the fight with Ali I thought Shavers clearly won. George Foreman was clearly knocked out. by Ali. Ernie Shavers did not have a good chin, otherwise he would have been champion forever. Also, Geroge Foreman cheated against Joe Frazier by constantly pushing him.
Shavers MAYBE had more pop in his overhand right but that's all he had. Did he ever throw a body punch? ALL of George's were hard, him and Liston probably had the 2 strongest jabs in history, and the amazing thing was big George's punches were not thrown technically correct. I forget who it was but he's got a video here who saw both Shavers and Marciano live and said Marciano had the strongest punch. Its very very hard to tell punching power because punches are so different, Shavers and Foreman both had different styles of punches. I believe big George was the strongest fighter to ever step into a ring.
Foreman took a way better punch than Earnie
Regardless, Shavers hit much harder than anyone else of that era maybe even spanning the 90s era
Shavers hit harder. Ali fought prime Foreman, so did Young. Foreman would beat Shavers. Even though he didnt punch as hard.
Foreman was superior boxer, had a better chin, skills and defense.
Earnie said for the longest time he wanted foreman and he’s been ducking since 1969, Holmes who knows better than all of us here said Shavers knocks foreman out and foreman himself said he’s glad he never fought shavers. Also since you want to point that out, Lennox bowe and Klitschko would decimate Foreman
@hassanx9423 Shavers chin wasn't granite enough to get wacked by Foreman, though.
I agree that if he connects first he could deck Foreman, but I believe Foreman, being the stronger, more durable man, wouldn't be pushed around and could recover and knock him out.
Foreman was more powerful and stronger Shavers hit harder by far
@@marleywills2160 Foreman may have been durable but Shavers himself said he always wanted George and George was glad he never wanted anything do with him. Holmes gives shavers credit and so does Ali claiming he’s a good fighter that went all the way and Holmes saying he was skilled and could box. I also believe foreman could beat Shavers. But I’d listen to the guys who were actually there. You also contradicted yourself, foreman being more powerful then saying shavers hit harder, then Ali literally said the words shavers was stronger than foreman.
@hassanx9423 strength and hitting hard and being powerful are different. In terms of punching, Foreman would lift you off your feet with his power. But Shavers would shock you with his power. It's a different punch. Foremans were heavy punches that made you go flying, Shavers would go through you but wouldn't lift you off your feet.
For instance, Mike Tyson was more powerful because of the speed in which he punched being very explosive but clearly didn't hit as hard as Foreman or Shavers
alright so its confirmed Shaver is the real Saitama 😂
All those years I thought Foreman is the hardest hitter
No, heavy thudding puncher but a real one punch killer Like Shavers and Marciano.
@@hassanx9423 Maciano was not near theses guys. He wouldnt even be a heavyweight today.
In no specific order: Ron Lyle, Ernie Shavers and George Foreman are the heaviest hitters in boxing history. No doubt.
He is. The key is wind up velocity. Foreman's punches only needed to travel a few inches. Shavers needed a few feet for wind up velocity. In basketball you can run at full speed and jump or you can jump from a standstill which requires explosiveness.
@@TubetakerBHV Marciano is one of the hardest punchers to ever exist and is right up there. Liston Shavers Lyle? Those guys are also midgets compared to today’s guys What does being heavyweight have to mean so they must be pillow punchers too .. the guy was the heavyweight champion of the world . Marciano was one of if not the hardest punchers to ever be champ. No questions.
Foreman was 22 when he fought Leroy. Shavers was 28.
I'm a believer!
Shavers top 1
Forman no 2
good Lord ... gives me chills ...
I pick Shavers to beat Foreman if they ever fought
Foreman had advantage in height, weight, reach aganist Shavers, also he was more skilled as a boxer, he had better chin and stamina, that's why he has better resume
I wouldn't. Foreman was the better fighter of the two with the far superior chin. Shavers could hit but he couldn't take it.
@@JenniferM13it would be like Lyle vs Foreman all ovrr again, George always won when it was power vs power because chin is also a factor, so is stamina. And Foreman had it all