It has to have the two extra terminals on the back of the stem of the battery at the base. So if you want to use a 4 amp hour you will have to do that high performance one and that one may be hard to get your hands on right now. Otherwise a 3 amp hour HP battery or a 6 amp hour HP battery it would be the way to go but it looks like they're kind of phasing out those 6 amp hour ones right now. TTI is doing some strange things right now with Rigid and Ryobi. They've gotten rid of the octane in rigid and with Ryobi they've phased out their first brushless offerings for this new HP brushless line. So really they don't have a battery better than a 4 amp hour currently for their tools because the other batteries are in phase out. They also have a 4ah HP battery in phase out to that can be found. Here is the best priced one I can find right now for you. www.directtoolsoutlet.com/Products/Batteries-%26-Chargers/Batteries/RYOBI-ONE%2B-18-Volt-Lithium%2B-HP-High-Capacity-Battery/p/ZRP191
The older HP battery or the newer HP high performance. I think the new high performance battery is their way of dealing with thermal protection issues with the burnshless motor
I'm really impressed with the Ryobi considering you used the older non HP battery. HP tools and batteries have a whole extra set of contacts that you didn't even have hooked up in the test
Truth: The employees that fill online orders are actually much better at finding things in the store than the employees that walk the aisles asking you if they can help you find something. I've learned that lesson a few times at HD.
thank you for the video. Just picked up the P262 (tool only) for lug nuts for tire rotations. I already had the 4ah batteries from other Ryobi tools (tire air pump, leaf blower, fan, light, drill, buffer, jigsaw). Perfect for me for home use and minor projects.
I just bought this Ryobi impact wrench for $165 (includes tax), and it comes with the HP 4amp battery. This is not for commercial use, so for me, should be fine. Thank you for the outstanding video work in reviewing this tool. Subscribed, thumbs up and bell. Be safe.
This is the best impact tool testing and most objective video I have ever seen! I have seen another video with the same unpredictable output from the Ryobi P262. I own a P261 myself, but I am going to wait until Ryobi solves the unpredictability problem before I upgrade. Excellent job!
I'm impressed it could perform that well with a standard battery, but the inconsistencies are a let down. Maybe an HP battery could help in that situation? They should have a pair of extra contacts on the base of the stem, and I saw the corresponding contacts on the tool in the video. Great test, looking forward to the next
Yeah it's directly related to not using an hp battery. Supposedly the HP tech is now built into the tool not the battery and the lower end batteries have a lower c rating and the tool will back off the power much sooner
I enjoy my ryobi and have this new one. It seems the batteries do make a big difference. I think the new high performance batteries are for this tool. I wish you had at least used the HP battery. A HP battery even on the first gen impact makes it a different gun
I only have Ryobi tools and the newer style batteries do make a difference. I just got the new SDS+ and it looks just like the Milwaukee!! But, yes, use the HP batteries and it will make a difference.
The batteries are not supposed to make a difference because they are all the same voltage which is what activates the motor. Of all my dewalt and ryobi tools, i can put in a fully charged 4 ah battery or fully charged 9ah battery and they run the same speed. It only runs weak when the battery is weak
True they aren't really supposed to. But there is an accident/glitch/bug in the capacity rule: Using two rows of battery cells to double the capacity _also_ accidentally flattens the power curve. So they might spin the same, but the torque is gonna be better. More throughput is still a bonus even if it is just an engineering accident. Who isn't happy for more throughput?
So by keeping the voltage the same and raising the watts per hour it increases current. I dont know the science behind it but tests and personal use tells me that a 2ah battery does not perform the same as a 4ah on impacts
I was told by a rep. From milwaukee Here in florida that Milwaukee Manufactures Ryobi for Home Depot and rigid and some rigid attachments will fit Ryobi for $49 you can put a rigid right angle drill head and attache it on a Ryobi multi tool body
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
Although a fan of Ryobi tools, I regard the legacy battery contacts as being their biggest weakness. They belong to a past era of lower power NiCad tools, but are still used in a new era of staggeringly high power lithium powered tools. Any pitting on a battery contact will affect the torque performance greatly. They really need large area knife contacts.
If only that was the biggest problem. First they gotta get the battery out of the grip so human hands could hold them without too much strain. Everyone who used a one-handed angle grinder for an extended period know how painful a thick grip is after not too long, obviously the Ryobi grips arent that thick but you can feel its leaning in that direction. To make matters worse they are not even cheap outside of north america.
the new battery have a extra set of terminals lower down. you need to use this style an dnot the old one with only terminals on the top of the proby thing.
I have the Milwaukee and Rigid. I feel like my Rigid is stronger. The Milwaukee is louder but seems to hammer more to me. The Milwaukee’s size seems like a good thing but not always. The shortness of the Milwaukee sounds good but the battery gets in the way more and the shorter nose means I end up using a extension more than my Rigid.
@@ZeGermanHam lol the weight and size difference is negligible I've had both and you wouldn't notice it past the first 20minutes of switching over from the milwuakee. Literally just did my entire suspension on my ranger with the new makita and I'd take it over the milwuakee any day. This coming Fromm someone who wants milwuakee hammer drill really badly
The Makita destroys the Milwaukee, but like has already been mentioned, it's (slightly) larger and heavier. But hey, if I'm buying a grunty high-mid-torque wrench, I'll take the power any day. My impact driver can be the small and light option.
I have had a row Ryobi for nine years Daily as a working tool I have never had any issues with it apart from recently the charger gave out however the four amp hour batteries are still great I’m a builder by the way.
Downside to Home Depot order pickup is I've had an instance where they tried to pass off tools that were opened, used, and taped back up in the box as new! Infuriating.
I can certainly relate to going to Home Depot to pick up one of the 20 items the website shows in stock only to go home empty handed because they can't find the item. This has happened to me on numerous occasions. I can understand a 1 or 2 item difference discrepancy, but 20?
"I can't find X on the rack but it says we have plenty in stock. We probably have a trailer that hasn't been unloaded yet." I've heard that a lot. I also wonder how much is disorganized, laziness or employees helping themselves to stock to put up on ebay.
I've worked in retail my whole life. These computer systems are never right with on hand stock. The deliveries are connected to them too, so if the on hand is saying they have something that they don't, they'll never have it until someone notices. And they've cut payroll to the point that no one has time for that.
That home depot experience is exactly what happened to me today looking for a Milwaukee 2962-20. Went to two stores, one had 3 in stock the other had 12 in stock. No one could find them and one guy said he doesn't carry it but then I pointed out the empty locker space and he said "hmmm maybe it's such a new tool we don't have it in yet" although it's been out for like two years. I just ordered it online for in store pick up but I don't have high hopes they'll find it.
I own Ryobi, I never say it's better than anything, I like it best for what I need out of a power tool. Milwaukee and all the other pro brands cost too much, I'm not a professional carpenter. I like the Ryobi line, they work for me and all their batteries fit everything they have ever made...period. My tools never become obsolete, no other manufacturer can say that unless they have copied Ryobi.
For decades I bought Milwaukee for work. Now I do much less than I used to so Ryobi and Dewalt are plenty good and less cost. The One+ collection of Ryobi tools just keeps growing. My son does some DIY work and likes Ryobi too. As for Milwaukee cordless drills I thought my 14.4V one made in Germany was better than the later Milwaukee 14.4V replacement. So, generally, IMO for light pro work and normal DIY Ryobi is fine, if you work the hell out of tools either heavy DIY or pro then spend the big bucks on Milwaukee or Hilti to get more bang for your buck in the long run.
From my experience, the P261 has had problems with some of the newer ryobi batteries, mainly the HP batteries in my experience. I think it is some sort of current limiting circuitry in the HP batteries that trips when the P261 fires up.
I've been saying it for years. I've owned Milwaukee, Bosch, DeWalt, Ryobi and Makita. I finally settled on Milwaukee and Ryobi sort of by chance however if you are a home owner or even serious DIY'er then look no further than Ryobi. They are the best value by far. Not only is the tool less expensive but you can get great battery deals, something you'll never find with the pro models like Milwaukee, DeWalt or Makita. Like printers, where they give them away and make most of their money on ink, it seems the manufacturers make more money on the replacement batteries than anything. Ryobi had a deal this Christmas where you could buy two 5Ahr batteries for $79. Go buy a 5 Ahr Milwaukee battery and you'll pay almost twice as much for one battery.
If you take them apart you'll see one reason why the price is higher. Fully conformal-coated boards means you'll not likely have it die from a small or large "bath" - which isn't covered by Ryobi. They also have better mosfet heatsinking, which may be the cause of these variable results. That or the much smaller contacts, which I'd commonly see wear out (I worked for Home Cheapo). Nearly every other company has a prong-style contact with more surface area for less voltage drop & wear. It's cool they kept the backwards-compatible design, but I suspect they've found the power & vibration limit. In the end TTI offers a reasonable price "tier" with Ryobi, Rigid, and Milwaukee - you just don't see why all up front.
@@hydrocarbon82 thanks for the comment. I haven't taken them apart to compare but it's good to know that there are some real differences other than marketing that help to justify the price differential
I went ahead and purchased a 262 due to already having a boatload of Ryobi blue tools and a new stock of lithium batteries to run them, it seems to work really well especially for yanking lugnuts on/off. I do also have Milwaukee 12v Fuels that I use for a drill amd 1/4 impact that I have had for years without one single problem. Hopefully I get good life from the Ryobi 1/2 impact vs having to switch to the higher voltage batteries and chargers which I dont already have in the Milwaukee brand.
Answer to? No, not at all. Remember that they are the same company! Ryobi is not competing with Milwaukee just as Chevy isn't competing with Cadillac. It's a deciduous statement. Ryobi is made for DIY people and Milwaukee is geared towards professionals.
Kobalt is a home owner tool and Milwaukee is professional. Take that kobalt to our jobsite building steel and it wont survive. Seen it come and go already.
@@MaryBruflat the XTR? I use the XTR impact at work in a shop. Daily use for 8 months till going strong. For what it's worth I usually use it on 8 or more cars daily and they both have 5 year tool warranty
I actually work as an order puller and we actually don't look at other stores anymore. We can't transfer. We call the customer first and see what they want to do. Most of the time customers don't want to look around at other stores. Most of the time they actually just tell us to refund them
I’ve done curve side pick up plenty of times at Home Depot. Although the store shows items in stock sometimes they refund me my money and cancel my order due to not having the item 😓
I bring a pair of 4x power binoculars when I’m shopping for a specific tool at Home Depot. I can usually locate a tool in the high over head bins before getting an employee to get one down for me. Saves a lot of time. But I think your hack of ordering online for store pickup is smart. I haven’t figured out how to get my discount using the phone app though.
I just used a Ryobi 261 for the first time, exact same results! It only broke 8 of 20 lug nuts loose. Super wimpy, motor smelled burnt. It's going back and I'm getting a 262
How does a channel with such low subscribers (comparable to other tool channels) get sponsored by Ego have such awesome tests and edits yet remain small? Just found this channel and really like what I'm seeing this far👌. Please also test Hilti, Metabo, Snap-on, Fein tools, Festool and such. There are test channels, best so far and in depth being 'Project Farm's but I really see a need for a channel that focuses primarily on cordless power tools. Anyway great video, I had to subscribe😃
I think the HF Bauer impact would be a good budget one to test. Also, though it is really a high torque, I am interested in seeing the Kobalt XTR impact wrench tested as well.
@Chris of all the air tools you own, how many have you warrantied. I’ve got 4 air impacts and two air ratchets as well as air hammers and other tools. Only one tool is every given me problems, it is 25 years old and is beat to piss. Other wise of my tools I have some cheap evercrafr and cheap harbor freight and none of them even after 5+ years have needed any work.
@Chris They aren't investments for the people interested in them. They are handy tools to have, not an important part of their lives. I wouldn't really consider buying one, but if I wasn't unreasonably picky about tools that I won't use more than a couple times a year I probably would.
I can imagine your frustration with Home Depot, although my grievance is with Lowes. I went to the Internet Order Pick-up Desk to get some Dewalt 12-volt tools that came in. It took the lady 20 minutes to find my tools. She asked if I wanted to have my receipt emailed to me. I said sure and she had me go on my merry way with no paper receipt. While going out the door I was tackled and THEN asked for my receipt. I told the guy that it was emailed to me and the yellow tag with my name on the tools and my pick-up order slip should be enough. Lowes never commented on the complaint that I filed.
I'd be interested to see a dyno comparison for cheap eBay batteries vs genuine. My Hitachi stuff was way more powerful with the eBay batteries but Milwaukee was a bit underwhelming.
I'd say it's an electrical issue with the random results. Internal battery tab or ... They stated 35% more torque with an OCTANE battery? Maybe that line gets the better solderers. Love this channel! ore 'behind the scenes' is cool!
Looking forward to the Makita, I’ve got the DTW300, and very impressed with it. The DTW700 is on my radar next, great in betweener if the specs are true, and both have great features. Great testing as always!!!
I just bought this ryobi...for 99 bucks. And I also got the 1 inch sds for another 100. And then I got the 2 hp 4ah batteries for another 100 :) home Depot pretty much forced my hand with the buy more save more. I have the first Gen sds and 1/2" impact and they still treat me right. We'll see what these new hp brushless tools got on the grizzled old veterans
This is nice to see, alot of people out there should start taking Ryobi more seriously. Its not as powerful, it may not be as durable, but alot of their stuff is getting pretty good for the price!
Also an important thing to mention: if you purchase the M18 with the rear handle saw at Home Depot, it'll save you $150 total for spending $500, thus bringing the mid torque wrench to the price of $164 before tax, only $5 more than the new Ryobi impact wrench. And Home Depot allows you to do partial returns so if you return the rear handle saw for reasons of "not needing it", you get a partial refund & end up saving money on the mid-torque alone!!!!!!!! It's worth to promote while it's still going on
Ridgid has announced they are discontinuing the octane lane and they have already come put with some new battery replacements. Can’t wait to see what they have as an improvement
"Real World" results may vary - was working with another pro-mechanic on an engine removal the other day - he arrived with every cordless Milwaukee make in his kitbags - all span new & shiny. He works for a factory race-team & they chuck all the shiny toys at him. We were working opposite sides of the vehicle, taking out the running gear. Everything was gnarly-tight & rusty, My old garbage at this stage Makita & Dewault gear opened everything his new Milwauki stuff did - I grabbed his mid-torque a few times just for the "Try". Very nice they are too but it opened tight stuff no better than my absolutely knackered-out Dewilt that has led a dogs life. When it came to cordless ratchets, I have a "pos" €60 one as I have to buy my own tools using my own beer-vouchers - he had Milwaukees latest & greatest extended neck version. My "POS" does better. Which surprised me greatly as mine looks like a toy by comparison. But it punches harder than the Milwaukee & fits in tight spots better - Fact. I also learnt once more that when it comes to rusted solid, not a hope of turning the nuts even by hand with a 4' breaker bar - the only "Real" impact driver for the rugged stuff is a 3/4" air-gun. That got dragged out after his 1/2" Milwaukee Hi-Torque had decided it wasn't doing jack & neither were we swinging out of the breaker bar. The 3/4" rattled about 4 times before the nuts gave up.
You can't do this justice until you test it with a HP battery that has the two brushless contacts on the back. It makes a noticeable difference. You saw how the tool adjusts torque output based on what it auto-detects the battery is capable of when you pull the trigger. When you use a HP battery it enables full torque output consistently since it can communicate with the BMS in the pack to draw full current safely. It has this feature due to backwards compatibility with older NiCad and lithium packs that aren't communicating, otherwise the tool could destroy the cells or cause a battery fire due to overamping. The ONE tools have to be designed to work with a dumb NiCad pack still without issues, so that's why the Ryobi brushless tools have the unique quirk of guessing the pack's max safe amperage and limiting output every time you pull the trigger. I think all the other brands monitor the cells directly through the pack connection so they don't have this quirk.
Great test TTi is making some good stuff. Milwaukee has come a long ways they kick snap on butt. To bad they can figure out the battery issue(falling off).
You guys get some good prices on your tools, I'm here in NZ and this model goes for $399 tool only.With US $159 = $262 NZ some one is making a good mark up.Good video explained a lot cheers.
I think it would be useful to also graf multiple runs with the same tool even in the case when the tool is consistent showing same number. what multiple runs look like like forward reverse and both directions of the max Torque runs. Keep up the great work
My understanding is that Ryobi HP+ battery has two extra contact point that provide extra torque, Although it may only be available for the saw. I watched a YT video on standard battery vs HP+ pack. At any rate this is a great comparison
I'm so done with Ryobi. Every time I get excited about a tool from them, I run into a video where the performance is either lackluster, the tool stalls out without much stress placed on it, or the motor just unreliably acts up. Time to do some serious research into Craftsman, Kobalt, and Hercules.
Be interesting to look in that battery and your 5ah.... They may be using similar capacity cells and have the extra 20% sitting idle so the tool is cycling 10-90% charge rather than 0-100 which would greatly improve cycle life at the sacrifice of a little more bulk, could also explain the funny action as the controller may be cutting out sooner or later giving a 85-95% charge or something.
My opinion is, if it's Ryobi (and that's the platform I'm Rock'n at the heavy duty body repair facility.)then I look for a 'B' on the end of the model#(I think that's code for, "we fixed a bunch of sh!t that broke on the 1st try. See how you like our 2nd attempt.") Every subsequent iteration gets the letter of the alphabet. I have a P262B. They have newer P262W(I think?) that's rated for 600ftlbs breakaway. I did spring for the extra warranty because I plan on testing the crap outta this thing.
This is what I expected. I have Ryobi tools and I am not surprised by this. The difference between 1st and 4th is $120. Since I don't need construction grade tools, that is a fair tradeoff for me.
i use that thing.. i'm happy with it "as long" as i use the correct battery and fully charged. you need the one with the second set of power terminals lover down.. do not use the old style battery.
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Ryobi and Milwaukee are both brands owned by Techtronic Industries (TTI). So I’m sure there are cross-efficiencies. They probably share quite a few parts and technologies. Ryobi is the consumer-focused brand sold by Home Depot. Milwaukee is traditionally more trades-focused so a bit costlier. Overall I prefer Milwaukee.Thanks for showing the performance tests - very helpful.
Not true, I have ordered and paid for items on the app, only to have to store call me and tell me they couldn’t find the item even though the app indicated they had stock, and that they were canceling my order. I guess it saved time and money not having to go to the store, but won’t guarantee they find something.
Was the ryobi set to auto mode? If it's like their hp impact drivers, This varies torque based on load sensed.. can't you try setting it to a manual 1/2/3 setting?
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Rematch video, Ryobi wins! (sorta): ua-cam.com/video/RRhX0b6zNtk/v-deo.html
It has to have the two extra terminals on the back of the stem of the battery at the base. So if you want to use a 4 amp hour you will have to do that high performance one and that one may be hard to get your hands on right now. Otherwise a 3 amp hour HP battery or a 6 amp hour HP battery it would be the way to go but it looks like they're kind of phasing out those 6 amp hour ones right now. TTI is doing some strange things right now with Rigid and Ryobi. They've gotten rid of the octane in rigid and with Ryobi they've phased out their first brushless offerings for this new HP brushless line. So really they don't have a battery better than a 4 amp hour currently for their tools because the other batteries are in phase out. They also have a 4ah HP battery in phase out to that can be found. Here is the best priced one I can find right now for you. www.directtoolsoutlet.com/Products/Batteries-%26-Chargers/Batteries/RYOBI-ONE%2B-18-Volt-Lithium%2B-HP-High-Capacity-Battery/p/ZRP191
The older HP battery or the newer HP high performance. I think the new high performance battery is their way of dealing with thermal protection issues with the burnshless motor
The 4AH “High Performance”. Not the HP. I know, it’s stupid.
The High energy ones with the extra 2 connectors on it.
Makes a extreme difference for my ryobi hammer drill
Or high power
This channel is way better than VCG, no hype, just good info. Thanks guys
I'm really impressed with the Ryobi considering you used the older non HP battery. HP tools and batteries have a whole extra set of contacts that you didn't even have hooked up in the test
Truth: The employees that fill online orders are actually much better at finding things in the store than the employees that walk the aisles asking you if they can help you find something. I've learned that lesson a few times at HD.
"I know more than you" can relate to that lol
1:46
Anyone that has ever walked into a Home Depot can relate to that !!
I can relate both ways as a knowledgeable customer now and having been a young guy working there like 12-13 years ago.
thank you for the video. Just picked up the P262 (tool only) for lug nuts for tire rotations. I already had the 4ah batteries from other Ryobi tools (tire air pump, leaf blower, fan, light, drill, buffer, jigsaw). Perfect for me for home use and minor projects.
I just bought this Ryobi impact wrench for $165 (includes tax), and it comes with the HP 4amp battery. This is not for commercial use, so for me, should be fine. Thank you for the outstanding video work in reviewing this tool. Subscribed, thumbs up and bell. Be safe.
Scientific and informative. Witty but not annoyingly flashy. To the point. You’ve got a new subscriber.
This is the best impact tool testing and most objective video I have ever seen! I have seen another video with the same unpredictable output from the Ryobi P262. I own a P261 myself, but I am going to wait until Ryobi solves the unpredictability problem before I upgrade. Excellent job!
It's not the TOOL that is fluctuating, it'd the BATTERY! When using a PROPER HP battery the fluctuating
Issue does not exist!
@2:53 That TTI company list with "You up?" LOL. Brilliant.
Would be funny if said ASL?
As a side note: Just found your channel and have been really enjoying the videos, thank you.
I'm impressed it could perform that well with a standard battery, but the inconsistencies are a let down. Maybe an HP battery could help in that situation? They should have a pair of extra contacts on the base of the stem, and I saw the corresponding contacts on the tool in the video.
Great test, looking forward to the next
Yeah it's directly related to not using an hp battery. Supposedly the HP tech is now built into the tool not the battery and the lower end batteries have a lower c rating and the tool will back off the power much sooner
I enjoy my ryobi and have this new one. It seems the batteries do make a big difference. I think the new high performance batteries are for this tool. I wish you had at least used the HP battery. A HP battery even on the first gen impact makes it a different gun
I only have Ryobi tools and the newer style batteries do make a difference. I just got the new SDS+ and it looks just like the Milwaukee!! But, yes, use the HP batteries and it will make a difference.
The batteries are not supposed to make a difference because they are all the same voltage which is what activates the motor.
Of all my dewalt and ryobi tools, i can put in a fully charged 4 ah battery or fully charged 9ah battery and they run the same speed.
It only runs weak when the battery is weak
True they aren't really supposed to. But there is an accident/glitch/bug in the capacity rule: Using two rows of battery cells to double the capacity _also_ accidentally flattens the power curve. So they might spin the same, but the torque is gonna be better. More throughput is still a bonus even if it is just an engineering accident. Who isn't happy for more throughput?
@@Biaanca5036 so true! ME, I'd doesn't bug me at all!
So by keeping the voltage the same and raising the watts per hour it increases current. I dont know the science behind it but tests and personal use tells me that a 2ah battery does not perform the same as a 4ah on impacts
I was told by a rep. From milwaukee Here in florida that Milwaukee Manufactures Ryobi for Home Depot and rigid and some rigid attachments will fit Ryobi for $49 you can put a rigid right angle drill head and attache it on a Ryobi multi tool body
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
Love the Ron Swanson bit. 👍🏼
Although a fan of Ryobi tools, I regard the legacy battery contacts as being their biggest weakness. They belong to a past era of lower power NiCad tools, but are still used in a new era of staggeringly high power lithium powered tools. Any pitting on a battery contact will affect the torque performance greatly. They really need large area knife contacts.
If only that was the biggest problem. First they gotta get the battery out of the grip so human hands could hold them without too much strain. Everyone who used a one-handed angle grinder for an extended period know how painful a thick grip is after not too long, obviously the Ryobi grips arent that thick but you can feel its leaning in that direction. To make matters worse they are not even cheap outside of north america.
the new battery have a extra set of terminals lower down. you need to use this style an dnot the old one with only terminals on the top of the proby thing.
The Makita test, yes. The XWT14, too. Small with a lot of power.
Holy crap I want to see that Makita vs the Milwaukee!
@@ZeGermanHam I agree! I think you’re dead on with that one!
@@ZeGermanHam I'd also trust Makita to last longer.
I have the Milwaukee and Rigid. I feel like my Rigid is stronger. The Milwaukee is louder but seems to hammer more to me. The Milwaukee’s size seems like a good thing but not always. The shortness of the Milwaukee sounds good but the battery gets in the way more and the shorter nose means I end up using a extension more than my Rigid.
@@ZeGermanHam lol the weight and size difference is negligible I've had both and you wouldn't notice it past the first 20minutes of switching over from the milwuakee.
Literally just did my entire suspension on my ranger with the new makita and I'd take it over the milwuakee any day.
This coming Fromm someone who wants milwuakee hammer drill really badly
The Makita destroys the Milwaukee, but like has already been mentioned, it's (slightly) larger and heavier.
But hey, if I'm buying a grunty high-mid-torque wrench, I'll take the power any day. My impact driver can be the small and light option.
I have had a row Ryobi for nine years Daily as a working tool I have never had any issues with it apart from recently the charger gave out however the four amp hour batteries are still great I’m a builder by the way.
I've had the ryobi p262 for about 8months and it has done everything i needed with the 3amp battery heck
This test definatly needs a round two with an hp battery on it.
Don't threaten us with a good time :)
lol
@@ZeGermanHam surprisingly the HO 6.0 makes more peak power than the HO 12.0
I’m curious how it would handle with the 9ah battery.
@@TorqueTestChannel I’ll subscribe right now if you guys make a video using all the different batteries!
I'd like to see the Earthquake XT battery powered impacts in these tests. I really enjoy seeing how all these tools compare.
Downside to Home Depot order pickup is I've had an instance where they tried to pass off tools that were opened, used, and taped back up in the box as new! Infuriating.
The Ryobi is pretty impressive. Now you've gotta try that best battery on it.
Definitely
this channel is going to blow up
I can certainly relate to going to Home Depot to pick up one of the 20 items the website shows in stock only to go home empty handed because they can't find the item. This has happened to me on numerous occasions. I can understand a 1 or 2 item difference discrepancy, but 20?
They’re usually on the upper shelves above but the employees are to lazy to get them
Just happened yesterday, showed 25 in stock but none on the shelf.
Absolutely! I filled out a survey and let them know. It’s ridiculous.
"I can't find X on the rack but it says we have plenty in stock. We probably have a trailer that hasn't been unloaded yet." I've heard that a lot. I also wonder how much is disorganized, laziness or employees helping themselves to stock to put up on ebay.
I've worked in retail my whole life. These computer systems are never right with on hand stock. The deliveries are connected to them too, so if the on hand is saying they have something that they don't, they'll never have it until someone notices. And they've cut payroll to the point that no one has time for that.
Great video. Love the channel. Thanks guys!
Thank you. I went to get the red mid last week 11 in stock and no one could find them.
I picked up the ryobi a month ago. Excited to watch this.
The batteries labeled "high performance" are the newest batteries. The older ones are labeled "HP +"
That home depot experience is exactly what happened to me today looking for a Milwaukee 2962-20. Went to two stores, one had 3 in stock the other had 12 in stock. No one could find them and one guy said he doesn't carry it but then I pointed out the empty locker space and he said "hmmm maybe it's such a new tool we don't have it in yet" although it's been out for like two years. I just ordered it online for in store pick up but I don't have high hopes they'll find it.
I own Ryobi, I never say it's better than anything, I like it best for what I need out of a power tool. Milwaukee and all the other pro brands cost too much, I'm not a professional carpenter. I like the Ryobi line, they work for me and all their batteries fit everything they have ever made...period. My tools never become obsolete, no other manufacturer can say that unless they have copied Ryobi.
For decades I bought Milwaukee for work. Now I do much less than I used to so Ryobi and Dewalt are plenty good and less cost. The One+ collection of Ryobi tools just keeps growing. My son does some DIY work and likes Ryobi too. As for Milwaukee cordless drills I thought my 14.4V one made in Germany was better than the later Milwaukee 14.4V replacement. So, generally, IMO for light pro work and normal DIY Ryobi is fine, if you work the hell out of tools either heavy DIY or pro then spend the big bucks on Milwaukee or Hilti to get more bang for your buck in the long run.
I don't even wait for the video to finish, before I smash the 'like' button.
One battery for all tools!!! I'm down with Ryobi! I don't want a shop full of different chargers and batteries. POOM BABY!!!
From my experience, the P261 has had problems with some of the newer ryobi batteries, mainly the HP batteries in my experience. I think it is some sort of current limiting circuitry in the HP batteries that trips when the P261 fires up.
Went back to this video to see if I should take advantage of Ryobi Days 2023 since this could be my free tool. Purchase made.
I've been saying it for years. I've owned Milwaukee, Bosch, DeWalt, Ryobi and Makita. I finally settled on Milwaukee and Ryobi sort of by chance however if you are a home owner or even serious DIY'er then look no further than Ryobi. They are the best value by far. Not only is the tool less expensive but you can get great battery deals, something you'll never find with the pro models like Milwaukee, DeWalt or Makita. Like printers, where they give them away and make most of their money on ink, it seems the manufacturers make more money on the replacement batteries than anything. Ryobi had a deal this Christmas where you could buy two 5Ahr batteries for $79. Go buy a 5 Ahr Milwaukee battery and you'll pay almost twice as much for one battery.
If you take them apart you'll see one reason why the price is higher. Fully conformal-coated boards means you'll not likely have it die from a small or large "bath" - which isn't covered by Ryobi. They also have better mosfet heatsinking, which may be the cause of these variable results. That or the much smaller contacts, which I'd commonly see wear out (I worked for Home Cheapo). Nearly every other company has a prong-style contact with more surface area for less voltage drop & wear. It's cool they kept the backwards-compatible design, but I suspect they've found the power & vibration limit.
In the end TTI offers a reasonable price "tier" with Ryobi, Rigid, and Milwaukee - you just don't see why all up front.
@@hydrocarbon82 thanks for the comment. I haven't taken them apart to compare but it's good to know that there are some real differences other than marketing that help to justify the price differential
Great channel, can't wait to see more of these cordless impacts tested. I am very interested in the 3/8, the high torque models, and cordless ratchets
I just picked up the new Milwaukee Mid Gen 2.. Opted for it over the High Torque Gen 1 due to the light car work I do. Looking forward to my next job.
I went ahead and purchased a 262 due to already having a boatload of Ryobi blue tools and a new stock of lithium batteries to run them, it seems to work really well especially for yanking lugnuts on/off. I do also have Milwaukee 12v Fuels that I use for a drill amd 1/4 impact that I have had for years without one single problem. Hopefully I get good life from the Ryobi 1/2 impact vs having to switch to the higher voltage batteries and chargers which I dont already have in the Milwaukee brand.
Answer to? No, not at all. Remember that they are the same company! Ryobi is not competing with Milwaukee just as Chevy isn't competing with Cadillac. It's a deciduous statement. Ryobi is made for DIY people and Milwaukee is geared towards professionals.
The kobalt Xtr impact wrench would be another good comparison for the milwaukee high torque.
Agreed. Would like to see that happen.
LOL, have you seen the size of that impact wrench. Their tools are all 2 to 3 times the size of Milwaukee’s!
@@martylucas8557 it's not that drastic of a difference of the high torque Milwaukee.i know because I have the XTR and my coworker has the high tq.
Kobalt is a home owner tool and Milwaukee is professional. Take that kobalt to our jobsite building steel and it wont survive. Seen it come and go already.
@@MaryBruflat the XTR? I use the XTR impact at work in a shop. Daily use for 8 months till going strong.
For what it's worth I usually use it on 8 or more cars daily and they both have 5 year tool warranty
Even the most mild-mannered person will lose it if they have to shop at Home Depot enough.
I look forward to the makita video for sure!!
I actually work as an order puller and we actually don't look at other stores anymore. We can't transfer. We call the customer first and see what they want to do. Most of the time customers don't want to look around at other stores. Most of the time they actually just tell us to refund them
And then we call Lowe’s 😛
I’ve done curve side pick up plenty of times at Home Depot. Although the store shows items in stock sometimes they refund me my money and cancel my order due to not having the item 😓
I bring a pair of 4x power binoculars when I’m shopping for a specific tool at Home Depot. I can usually locate a tool in the high over head bins before getting an employee to get one down for me. Saves a lot of time. But I think your hack of ordering online for store pickup is smart. I haven’t figured out how to get my discount using the phone app though.
I just used a Ryobi 261 for the first time, exact same results! It only broke 8 of 20 lug nuts loose. Super wimpy, motor smelled burnt. It's going back and I'm getting a 262
Get an HP battery. Its great
You should try HarborFreight battery powered impacts.
Will do!
1:41 just made me laugh , home depot is hit or miss place
If you buy curbside and they don't have it, they cancel your order and put "out of stock" as the reason. Speaking from a lot of experience.
I've had no problems with mine. It's been doing what I need it to do without concern.
When he says "we" it makes me think he's talking him and his power tools lol
Test the dewalt 1/2 inch mid torque, it’s an older tool but it’s a beast with the new 21700 cell battery’s
How does a channel with such low subscribers (comparable to other tool channels) get sponsored by Ego have such awesome tests and edits yet remain small?
Just found this channel and really like what I'm seeing this far👌. Please also test Hilti, Metabo, Snap-on, Fein tools, Festool and such.
There are test channels, best so far and in depth being 'Project Farm's but I really see a need for a channel that focuses primarily on cordless power tools.
Anyway great video, I had to subscribe😃
LONG LIVE the M18 Gen 2 Mid-Torque!!!!
No joke, I'm loving this tool!!!!☺
I have the Ryobi and love it.
I would recommend using a new HP battery, at least it has worked for all my ryobi tools that are HP capable
I think the HF Bauer impact would be a good budget one to test. Also, though it is really a high torque, I am interested in seeing the Kobalt XTR impact wrench tested as well.
@Chris of all the air tools you own, how many have you warrantied. I’ve got 4 air impacts and two air ratchets as well as air hammers and other tools. Only one tool is every given me problems, it is 25 years old and is beat to piss. Other wise of my tools I have some cheap evercrafr and cheap harbor freight and none of them even after 5+ years have needed any work.
@Chris They aren't investments for the people interested in them. They are handy tools to have, not an important part of their lives. I wouldn't really consider buying one, but if I wasn't unreasonably picky about tools that I won't use more than a couple times a year I probably would.
I don't even own an impact and I love this channel
Did you have the Ryobi on auto instead of it's highest setting of three?
Damn bro! Great content! HD gives me headaches sometimes!
I can imagine your frustration with Home Depot, although my grievance is with Lowes.
I went to the Internet Order Pick-up Desk to get some Dewalt 12-volt tools that came in. It took the lady 20 minutes to find my tools. She asked if I wanted to have my receipt emailed to me. I said sure and she had me go on my merry way with no paper receipt. While going out the door I was tackled and THEN asked for my receipt. I told the guy that it was emailed to me and the yellow tag with my name on the tools and my pick-up order slip should be enough. Lowes never commented on the complaint that I filed.
Lowes is just as bad, can confirm
i own the m18 stubby and must say, very useful. rips off lugs, and tons else
I'd be interested to see a dyno comparison for cheap eBay batteries vs genuine. My Hitachi stuff was way more powerful with the eBay batteries but Milwaukee was a bit underwhelming.
You got it, we'll try it w/ DeWalt. Will take a little bit
@@TorqueTestChannel Thanks! Keen to see it!
ahh yes Ryobi's answer to Milwaukee! lmao (laughs in parent company TTI industries)
Its the same tool with different color
@@nohcho84 bingo
@@nohcho84 bingpot
I'd say it's an electrical issue with the random results. Internal battery tab or ...
They stated 35% more torque with an OCTANE battery? Maybe that line gets the better solderers.
Love this channel! ore 'behind the scenes' is cool!
Amazing work, thanks!
So True, most employees in lowes or home depot have no clue what's on the shelves or in inventory or what the products/tools where designed to do
I feel like the batteries might be the culprit of this result. Maybe ryobi wants you to buy the higher battery for those results who knows 🤷🏻♂️
Looking forward to the Makita, I’ve got the DTW300, and very impressed with it. The DTW700 is on my radar next, great in betweener if the specs are true, and both have great features.
Great testing as always!!!
I just bought this ryobi...for 99 bucks. And I also got the 1 inch sds for another 100. And then I got the 2 hp 4ah batteries for another 100 :) home Depot pretty much forced my hand with the buy more save more. I have the first Gen sds and 1/2" impact and they still treat me right. We'll see what these new hp brushless tools got on the grizzled old veterans
Have you considered using a pact shooting timer for your impact tests? Seems it would be easier than timing the button press?
This is nice to see, alot of people out there should start taking Ryobi more seriously. Its not as powerful, it may not be as durable, but alot of their stuff is getting pretty good for the price!
It's like they took 3 steps forward instead of one with some of these new offerings.
Also an important thing to mention: if you purchase the M18 with the rear handle saw at Home Depot, it'll save you $150 total for spending $500, thus bringing the mid torque wrench to the price of $164 before tax, only $5 more than the new Ryobi impact wrench.
And Home Depot allows you to do partial returns so if you return the rear handle saw for reasons of "not needing it", you get a partial refund & end up saving money on the mid-torque alone!!!!!!!!
It's worth to promote while it's still going on
Can you guys review the Mac/Dewalt 1/2 Midtorque?
Looking forward to the Makita. I pick one up (xwt17z) for about $250 with a free 5 ah battery.
Ridgid has announced they are discontinuing the octane lane and they have already come put with some new battery replacements. Can’t wait to see what they have as an improvement
"Real World" results may vary - was working with another pro-mechanic on an engine removal the other day - he arrived with every cordless Milwaukee make in his kitbags - all span new & shiny. He works for a factory race-team & they chuck all the shiny toys at him.
We were working opposite sides of the vehicle, taking out the running gear. Everything was gnarly-tight & rusty, My old garbage at this stage Makita & Dewault gear opened everything his new Milwauki stuff did - I grabbed his mid-torque a few times just for the "Try". Very nice they are too but it opened tight stuff no better than my absolutely knackered-out Dewilt that has led a dogs life.
When it came to cordless ratchets, I have a "pos" €60 one as I have to buy my own tools using my own beer-vouchers - he had Milwaukees latest & greatest extended neck version. My "POS" does better. Which surprised me greatly as mine looks like a toy by comparison. But it punches harder than the Milwaukee & fits in tight spots better - Fact.
I also learnt once more that when it comes to rusted solid, not a hope of turning the nuts even by hand with a 4' breaker bar - the only "Real" impact driver for the rugged stuff is a 3/4" air-gun. That got dragged out after his 1/2" Milwaukee Hi-Torque had decided it wasn't doing jack & neither were we swinging out of the breaker bar. The 3/4" rattled about 4 times before the nuts gave up.
Good review. Think i am going to buy the ryobi. On sale at home depot right now for 179 with battery and charger.
You can't do this justice until you test it with a HP battery that has the two brushless contacts on the back. It makes a noticeable difference. You saw how the tool adjusts torque output based on what it auto-detects the battery is capable of when you pull the trigger. When you use a HP battery it enables full torque output consistently since it can communicate with the BMS in the pack to draw full current safely. It has this feature due to backwards compatibility with older NiCad and lithium packs that aren't communicating, otherwise the tool could destroy the cells or cause a battery fire due to overamping. The ONE tools have to be designed to work with a dumb NiCad pack still without issues, so that's why the Ryobi brushless tools have the unique quirk of guessing the pack's max safe amperage and limiting output every time you pull the trigger. I think all the other brands monitor the cells directly through the pack connection so they don't have this quirk.
HP this Friday!
Ryobi 🎻🤪🤪🎲🎲📉🧻😂😂😂😂
Great review.. 👍
Great test TTi is making some good stuff. Milwaukee has come a long ways they kick snap on butt. To bad they can figure out the battery issue(falling off).
You guys get some good prices on your tools, I'm here in NZ and this model goes for $399 tool only.With US $159 = $262 NZ some one is making a good mark up.Good video explained a lot cheers.
I think it would be useful to also graf multiple runs with the same tool even in the case when the tool is consistent showing same number. what multiple runs look like like forward reverse and both directions of the max Torque runs. Keep up the great work
My understanding is that Ryobi HP+ battery has two extra contact point that provide extra torque, Although it may only be available for the saw. I watched a YT video on standard battery vs HP+ pack. At any rate this is a great comparison
I'm so done with Ryobi.
Every time I get excited about a tool from them, I run into a video where the performance is either lackluster, the tool stalls out without much stress placed on it, or the motor just unreliably acts up. Time to do some serious research into Craftsman, Kobalt, and Hercules.
Be interesting to look in that battery and your 5ah.... They may be using similar capacity cells and have the extra 20% sitting idle so the tool is cycling 10-90% charge rather than 0-100 which would greatly improve cycle life at the sacrifice of a little more bulk, could also explain the funny action as the controller may be cutting out sooner or later giving a 85-95% charge or something.
My opinion is, if it's Ryobi (and that's the platform I'm Rock'n at the heavy duty body repair facility.)then I look for a 'B' on the end of the model#(I think that's code for, "we fixed a bunch of sh!t that broke on the 1st try. See how you like our 2nd attempt.") Every subsequent iteration gets the letter of the alphabet. I have a P262B. They have newer P262W(I think?) that's rated for 600ftlbs breakaway. I did spring for the extra warranty because I plan on testing the crap outta this thing.
This is what I expected. I have Ryobi tools and I am not surprised by this. The difference between 1st and 4th is $120. Since I don't need construction grade tools, that is a fair tradeoff for me.
i use that thing.. i'm happy with it "as long" as i use the correct battery and fully charged. you need the one with the second set of power terminals lover down.. do not use the old style battery.
Great video, do some craftsman brushless
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Ryobi and Milwaukee are both brands owned by Techtronic Industries (TTI). So I’m sure there are cross-efficiencies. They probably share quite a few parts and technologies.
Ryobi is the consumer-focused brand sold by Home Depot. Milwaukee is traditionally more trades-focused so a bit costlier. Overall I prefer Milwaukee.Thanks for showing the performance tests - very helpful.
Not true, I have ordered and paid for items on the app, only to have to store call me and tell me they couldn’t find the item even though the app indicated they had stock, and that they were canceling my order. I guess it saved time and money not having to go to the store, but won’t guarantee they find something.
Would be interested in seeing a comparison between ryobi batteries
I thought there was a setting on that Ryobi to turn off the “smart” feature of this impact? Another channel reviewed it and it seemed to matter.
We tried darn near all the settings
Was the ryobi set to auto mode? If it's like their hp impact drivers, This varies torque based on load sensed.. can't you try setting it to a manual 1/2/3 setting?