How do 1500s think differently than 2200s?

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 136

  • @chesswithpatrick
    @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому +131

    Nelson, thank you SO much for the post-game analysis on my channel 😊. This is such a great format to see the perspective of both sides and I had a ton of fun collaborating with you on this! Cheers!

    • @chessamigo
      @chessamigo 9 місяців тому +4

      @chesswithpatrick Awesome match!!! It’s been fun to watch your chess journey!

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому +3

      Thank you @@chessamigo!!

    • @supremekhan9564
      @supremekhan9564 9 місяців тому +1

      @@chesswithpatrick hi,a wired asmr dude

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому

      @@supremekhan9564lol. Yeah pretty weird

    • @clash4kurd96
      @clash4kurd96 9 місяців тому +2

      Honestly, you two play pretty evenly until the clock starts ticking

  • @viktorkeray1467
    @viktorkeray1467 9 місяців тому +33

    Amazing series, love it! As a suggestion, maybe play 30-minute games and shorten the video afterwards, just not to run out of time. The games are really interesting, and it is a bummer for your opponents to lose on time, considering that they are playing against you - a much stronger opponent.

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому +6

      This is a great series and Nelson is so awesome. Thanks for watching Viktor!

  • @netronixbg
    @netronixbg 3 місяці тому +2

    I also have a similar rating around 1500 but you guys turned my view on this game upside down. I've never seen it this way on UA-cam. Really very interesting not only because of the different rating that diverges by 700 points, but also how two different players reason. Keep this format going, it's very interesting. It would also be interesting if it could be done with someone who is 200-300 points above Nelson or at his level.
    Congratulations on a job perfectly done.

  • @Ersunn
    @Ersunn 9 місяців тому +2

    This is one of the best chess video I have ever seen, thanks!!

  • @theamericanidiot0116
    @theamericanidiot0116 9 місяців тому +1

    I’m really loving these videos, not only for the educational value, but also for just discovering new chess UA-camrs. It’s really interesting and great.

  • @msl758
    @msl758 9 місяців тому +18

    One of the main differences i've noticed as a viewer between 1500 and 2200 is the educational value of the games. I've watched many of Patrick's games and he will not be able to explain the rationale behind a lot of his moves, nor anticipate the potential tactics the opponent may have (not meant to be a critisism, he is 500 higher rated than I am), whereas chessvibes forecasts what is going to happen, or explain very early on why somehting is a mistake.

  • @Mr.Coincidence
    @Mr.Coincidence 9 місяців тому +3

    For all those curious. Patrick has a super chill chess channel too. Good times for chilling out to.

  • @gmkatsu
    @gmkatsu 9 місяців тому +5

    Thanks So much for doing a game and video with my good friend Pat! I have been an admin in his server for a while now and it is really good to see he is getting more recognition! :DDD

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому +1

      Dude Katsu! Thank you! This was super fun.

  • @macornman
    @macornman 9 місяців тому +2

    I love this series. One thing I learned is that it takes some skill to convey your thoughts loudly and clearly. The other player was talking to himself and mumbling at times. Definitely a skill i didnt appreciate

  • @Mik1604
    @Mik1604 9 місяців тому +5

    This is such an excellent format. Love it.

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому

      I agree. Nelson is great at what he does!

  • @myon_craft150
    @myon_craft150 9 місяців тому +11

    loving this format!

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому

      Agree. It provides such a great perspective to hear both players thoughts! 😊

  • @QDWhite
    @QDWhite 9 місяців тому +5

    2:08 Bc4 isn't a mistake. It's a book move. After 4 Bc4 Nxe4, the line is 5 Nxe4 d5 (the fork they both saw), 6 Bd3 dxe4, 7 Bxe4...
    The exchange is equal, black ends up with a pawn and knight in the centre while white has a knight and bishop in the centre and can castle on the next move (if they want). Black has a couple options for move 7. If they bring their bishop out, they also can castle next.

    • @sanlikestea
      @sanlikestea 9 місяців тому

      you know nothing about chess.

    • @QDWhite
      @QDWhite 9 місяців тому +7

      @@sanlikestea wow okay. This is literally listed in Modern Chess Openings, but go ahead and feel however you want.

    • @sanlikestea
      @sanlikestea 9 місяців тому

      @@QDWhite doesn't make it a good move bro

    • @QDWhite
      @QDWhite 9 місяців тому +5

      @@sanlikestea doesn't make it a bad one either. It literally makes it a book move.

    • @Hertic50
      @Hertic50 9 місяців тому +1

      it is at this level, cuz they don't usually know all the theory, you see, how Patrick got a bad position early

  • @KenyGrey
    @KenyGrey 9 місяців тому +1

    love these videos, my favorite series do not stop these coming!!

  • @davesharratt917
    @davesharratt917 9 місяців тому +3

    Very excited to see CWP as your opponent as a long time follower of both.

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому +2

      Thank you for tuning in Dave! Glad you liked it! Nelson is great!

  • @arikoudemans2166
    @arikoudemans2166 9 місяців тому

    Super effective format. Respect for all the great ideas you come up with.

  • @sweaterkev
    @sweaterkev 9 місяців тому +2

    Love this format great idea!

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому

      It was so much fun to collab with Nelson!

  • @kwhd559
    @kwhd559 9 місяців тому +8

    Why is the opponent whispering - Is he playing from a library or something? 🤫

  • @NarrativeCMBSports
    @NarrativeCMBSports 9 місяців тому +1

    When will you post again on Chest Vibes??

  • @timm439
    @timm439 9 місяців тому +1

    Patrick has a day job as a golf commentator. Good game - great format, keep it up! :)

  • @milkmanjones6445
    @milkmanjones6445 9 місяців тому +15

    Someone stop this man from whispering

  • @nopebuddy6827
    @nopebuddy6827 9 місяців тому +1

    How should I contact you to play you in a game?

  • @HopeBloomMusic
    @HopeBloomMusic 3 місяці тому

    Bob Ross Vibes - Happy Little Pieces

  • @ThortheMerciless
    @ThortheMerciless 9 місяців тому

    Around 12:00 you don't consider Bf6 which stops the tactic by overprotecting e5. Is there any reason that you didn't even consider this? I'm thinking that it allows Qe7 and also to put the QB on a more active square than d7.

    • @kzkaa.
      @kzkaa. 9 місяців тому

      Probably because the pawn isn't worth defending, and can be lost without much of a disadvantage. Idk I'm not Nelson.

    • @ThortheMerciless
      @ThortheMerciless 9 місяців тому

      A pawn is a pawn is a pawn.

  • @Stumpchunkman226
    @Stumpchunkman226 2 місяці тому

    Never let another man fork your pieces.

  • @WiscoWallace
    @WiscoWallace 9 місяців тому

    What do you think in the 32:15 position, after white pawn takes and rook recaptures is queen g3 a good move? Input from anybody would be appreciated. I think my rating is around 1000.

  • @scottb32a
    @scottb32a 6 місяців тому +1

    are you playing a serial killer ?

  • @tominmo8865
    @tominmo8865 9 місяців тому

    This is a great format, above-average player vs big-brain guy. Please keep 'em coming.

  • @elyecesejil3798
    @elyecesejil3798 9 місяців тому

    Very interesting video thanks you !

  • @GaryFerrao
    @GaryFerrao 9 місяців тому

    This is such a nice format.

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому

      I agree Gary ! This is such a great way to learn for a (former) 1500 rated player :)

  • @mayedalshamsi
    @mayedalshamsi 9 місяців тому +3

    Why does he keep referring to you as they? 😂

    • @GizasRadigeris
      @GizasRadigeris 9 місяців тому

      xDDDDDDDDDDDDD

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому +2

      Didn’t know I was doing that lol! Probably a habit of commenting 300 days when being matched up against someone randomly without knowing their gender.

    • @mayedalshamsi
      @mayedalshamsi 9 місяців тому +1

      @@chesswithpatrick - Haha! Makes sense! 😂
      You played really well. I'm waiting to get some free time, so that I can see the analysis on your channel.
      Keep it up! 😁

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you@@mayedalshamsi !! I really appreciate that :)

  • @islambouzaher2182
    @islambouzaher2182 9 місяців тому

    amazing idea nelson

  • @Maxim.Teleguz
    @Maxim.Teleguz 9 місяців тому

    The thumbnail from the show queens gambit

  • @tebi8812
    @tebi8812 9 місяців тому

    I love these series, +1 abo

  • @MaxChessman007
    @MaxChessman007 9 місяців тому

    Good game, great format!

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому +1

      Hi Max!! :) Thanks for tuning in. I agree this format was amazing.

  • @ytplutoo
    @ytplutoo 9 місяців тому +1

    great video ❤

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому

      It was really fun collaborating with Chess Vibes :)

  • @frankhummel9529
    @frankhummel9529 9 місяців тому

    Why does he refer to Nelson as they/them through the whole thing?

    • @Unndecided
      @Unndecided 9 місяців тому

      I noticed in the previous instalment as well
      Perhaps Nelson is no longer a father maybe his title has changed to ejaculating parent

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому +1

      Didn’t know I was doing that lol! Probably a habit of commenting 300 days when being matched up against someone randomly without knowing their gender.

  • @robertedson2374
    @robertedson2374 9 місяців тому

    Who is that??? Whispering Smith??

  • @georgehavrincea9258
    @georgehavrincea9258 9 місяців тому +1

    This guy sounds like Hannibal Lecter:)))

  • @PaddyMacDaddy101
    @PaddyMacDaddy101 5 місяців тому

    Why do you intuitively say "they" instead of he?

  • @KingPanda-lp5ir
    @KingPanda-lp5ir 9 місяців тому

    im 1800 any tips to improve???

  • @ernie898
    @ernie898 9 місяців тому

    The new boys are better and stronger

  • @crabby-boiii
    @crabby-boiii 9 місяців тому +1

    I'm stuck at 1250 elo any tips?

    • @Cl0udPvP
      @Cl0udPvP 9 місяців тому

      Try to analyse what your mistakes were, remember what got you there in terms of the last few moves, and try not to get into that in the next game. Also, try and take a longer time to make moves in game, atleast 10 seconds; use a longer time scale like 10 min or 15 min too

    • @PickleCODM-hw6cj
      @PickleCODM-hw6cj 9 місяців тому

      learn the poisoned pawn variation in the najdorf

    • @GrupoCiencias-xf2fs
      @GrupoCiencias-xf2fs 9 місяців тому

      probably the worst advice you could give a low to intermediate player@@PickleCODM-hw6cj

    • @GlobalWarmingSkeptic
      @GlobalWarmingSkeptic 9 місяців тому

      At that level you need to start memorizing openings and getting really good at a core set. Have an answer for multiple Sicilian openings, London, petrov, philidor, Caro, King's Indian, Spanish and Italian setups, and the other popular openings, and ensure you know the continuations, and against the sidelines just keep developing your instincts, tactics, and understanding of general positions. Get good at seeing mating threats. Of course getting to 1250 you probably got used to king safety and that has to get better too, or at least that's how my journey from 1000-1350 was. Biggest thing though will be getting out of the opening with really good winning chances.
      Another personal thing for me was learning to accept a draw when I have an uncertain position. If I can get out of a game I'm not comfortable with, I try to take it if I can force it or force opponent into a bad move to avoid the draw (which happens a lot tbh and I won a lot of games on that).

    • @Cl0udPvP
      @Cl0udPvP 9 місяців тому

      Don’t focus all of your time on learning openings because it doesn’t matter how much opening knowledge you have, if you struggle with blunders and you blunder pretty much every game which I know you’ll do, you need to focus on improving them. Just play caro Kann for 1. E4 and king’s Indian defense for anything else as black. As for white, I recommend maybe trying the London system or queen’s gambit because you don’t need to study them for hours to know what to do, and then you’ll have more time to try and stop blunders. And don’t except draws when you have an uncomfortable position because you’ll never learn how to get out of them. You need to embrace the losses and mistakes you’ve made, and try to attempt to not make the mistake you made before. If you really want to play 1. E4 then just learn the Italian game because it’s aggressive, and for some reason everyone plays e5 as a response for e4 at your level.

  • @NJDJ1986
    @NJDJ1986 9 місяців тому +1

    @41:51 ooof why Patrick played that move? Qxf3 was a blunder! even his rook was hanging!

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому +6

      Time management has been an issue with me since day 1 unfortunately. My brain isn’t as quick as chess vibes lol.

  • @Ozasuke
    @Ozasuke 9 місяців тому

    I'm loving this series! I'm still sub-1000 and seeing the differences in play helps me understand some important points in defense such as the f5 pawn. I have a bad habit of trapping my own bishops. Thank you both!

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому +1

      that's a tough part to get right... getting the bishop outside the pawn chain and not getting it trapped!

  • @Lloyd__Christmas
    @Lloyd__Christmas 9 місяців тому +1

    Someone tell buddy to stop whispering… also Nelson is a he not a they I’m pretty sure

  • @Fishamanic
    @Fishamanic 8 місяців тому

    Even i can beat Nelsi and im not even 400

  • @Joren68
    @Joren68 9 місяців тому

    You should have someone higher rated than yourself on here

  • @kwhd559
    @kwhd559 9 місяців тому

    ....Rf7 should have been met with Qa6 targetting the weak Black a-pawn , and if ....Bc5 to defend, then b4 would have been interesting - You have to have vision on all sides of the board - When one player commits all his pieces to defend one side of the board, press him on the other side

  • @60403tnw
    @60403tnw 9 місяців тому

    this is dope

  • @MelloRoadToMaster
    @MelloRoadToMaster 9 місяців тому

    Now waiting for how a 1700 thinks vs a 2200.
    {If u want u can take me. Just reply 😅}

    • @Hertic50
      @Hertic50 9 місяців тому

      It suprising how much gd players play chess, i'm one of them

  • @darkshadow5730
    @darkshadow5730 9 місяців тому +2

    will say. good game play but poor sportsmanship to resign vs taking the loss.. takes the fun out of winning

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому

      My bad! I didn't realize it was bad sportsmanship. I'm still learning

  • @Mamachola46
    @Mamachola46 28 днів тому

    This paaaaaaaewwnnnnnnnn! 😂

  • @plokenv
    @plokenv 9 місяців тому

    Do it on me next plss

  • @MrDanielfff777
    @MrDanielfff777 9 місяців тому

    Fun vid

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому

      Daniel!! :) Thanks for tuning in, this was a fun one for sure. I've got the post-game analysis on my channel too.

  • @davidzer6853
    @davidzer6853 Місяць тому

    your rival had a very very annoying tone, like whispering...

  • @bysebastiaan3106
    @bysebastiaan3106 9 місяців тому +1

    Getting Bob Ross vibes from @Chesswithpatrick

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому +1

      I didn’t make any mistakes this game. Just happy little accidents.

    • @bysebastiaan3106
      @bysebastiaan3106 9 місяців тому

      hahahahaha @@chesswithpatrick

  • @lookingforkluck8019
    @lookingforkluck8019 9 місяців тому

    Sub only bcz of theese videos! Supernice!

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому

      This format is amazing!! :) Post-game analysis on my channel too.

  • @fozcan5196
    @fozcan5196 9 місяців тому +1

    Why this bro talks like he is in asmr video his voice is so annoying

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому

      lol sorry about that! Probably should get better at chess and a better voice.

  • @userac-xpg
    @userac-xpg 9 місяців тому

    Both players are taking way too much time before reaching the endgame. Should not be under 1 minute on the clock until after the queens and at least 1 rook are off the board

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому

      Time management has never been my strength :)

    • @ThortheMerciless
      @ThortheMerciless 9 місяців тому

      Perhaps you should consider how much extra time it takes to make a running commentary?

  • @jantjedekoning4498
    @jantjedekoning4498 9 місяців тому

    Dont want to be disrespectful, but damn Patrick has such an annoying (tone of) voice. I cant listen to him somehow.....

    • @chesswithpatrick
      @chesswithpatrick 9 місяців тому

      I should probably fix my voice

    • @mrbee8336
      @mrbee8336 2 місяці тому

      Nah! It's ok bro he is just hating😊​@@chesswithpatrick

  • @gmraven
    @gmraven 9 місяців тому +1

    @chessvibesofficial I've been subbed for a while here and am liking this style of content. Nelson, let me know if you wanna film a collab like this with me 😅