The Difference Between 700 and 2200 ELO
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
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You the man Nelson! Thanks for having me on
How did you convince him to play with you 💀
At first ,I thought your hair was becoming more disheveled as the game went on I had myself cracking up thinking about it
You won't be 700 for long. I think you played great
You played really, really well. I'm around your current rating and I would have got destroyed.
You played a great game!
By the way, I love the Star Wars posters behind you!
Strongest 700 I've ever seen tbh
Same
For real…. Feel like he doesnt “talk out his games” enough. If he records more like this and talks through his positions 1500 in no time. Wow
maybe he played chess before too, and just started playing rated chess ..
700 Elo: " This is the ruy lopez, haha, i like it...,
2200 Elo: " So he's gone for the ruy lopez. The main line is...(proceeds to go 5 moves deep into the line)
That's the difference
"This is the ruy lopez i think"
Me when I was 700 elo: "Ohh no, it's the ruy lopez I guess I have to give up my pawn and there is nothing I can do about it."
@@yuriabramov4689 Me at 700 elo - wtf is ruy lopez??
What's a 700elo by the way?
Ruy Lopez is a complicated opening from what I hear, that's why I don't play it. Source: me, an 800.
He played really well for a 700. He has good understanding.
Exact thought. He plays like a 1200, more than a 700.
I’m the same way I’m 730, and I’ll have some good games where I play like 1200-1300 but I’m inconsistent and I’ll also have games where I play like a 500😅
@@hungry4more1 ditto
@@hungry4more1 This is because of tactics. Your strategic view may be 1900 but you don't see 1200 tactics. Even in this game, he didn't see basic tactics so he got mated.
‘This is a move that I probably wouldn’t do myself, so it’s probably a good one’ - my chess career to date…
700 elo done faced the final boss
Should have gained more XP doing side quests before continuing the main quest.
I think that'd be Magnus or some other Super GM
This setup with comments on both sides is fantastic!
I was impressed by Nelson’s opponent. He has good vision.
Also opponent “Kobe”
THIS is such good chess content. The best part is you showed the whole game from both sides. It really let us fully see how both players handled the game. Thank you and please keep making content just like this, it was a ton of fun to watch.
Our 700 man Jackson here was on some kaioken shit. Stockfish says he played at an incredible estimated 1400 Elo, whereas Nelson underperformed relative to his Elo at 1800. Such a good video.
That 700 elo dude calculates better than me "I'm 1000elo"
Me as well, but if I knew I was playing Nelson. I'd probably be hyper-focused, too
@@matthewping6132 you right i would too
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Im 1200
The clocks are wrong.
700 know opening names like Ruy Lopez, I don't feel so good being above1000 rated
Yea it im 700 too but i don't know any opening whatsoever, this guy ain't 700.
I’m 700. I know most of the names. That doesn’t mean I know how to respond to them.
@@suraj_danuKnowing the names is a function of how much chess content you watch/read, not how much practice you have at actually executing it.
Plus, it's not uncommon for people to have uneven capabilities within their skillset, so they might be really good at calculating but forget to do blunder checks on "basic" looking moves, etc.
Different people have different strengths. I’ve seen a 1600 remember 15 move deep into Busch Gass gambit main line but playing end game like a shoe. Likewise, I’ve also seen a 1600 playing f3 on move 2, block center pawn with bishop in the opening, move the king, lose a few pawn because of that, get into end game down 3 pawn then play it like a god and win it.
300s know all of the openings.
Excellent video. A 700 elo player isn't a 700 player if they're explaining every move. Jackson played a game higher than his rating because the video format forced him to think and explain every move. Slowing down and checking your moves is probably worth 500 points of elo.
Yeah, he was really tuned in because of the circumstance. We can all have these moments/games where we're as locked in as we can possibly be mentally but there's no way we can maintain that for long periods of time, hence why when the dude normally plays he's a 700. Even still, it's still super impressive he played as well as he did. Stockfish estimated his Elo for that game at an incredible 1400.
During some of Nelson's comments it looked as if the clock was frozen. Great video
Jackson was fantastic. Nice thinking process. Seems far above 700. Love the series.
i cant wait for the next video: difference between 200 elo & 2200 elo!
as a 700 elo player this was actually super helpful. big up jackson
I feel like he's more like 1200 instead of 700. I play 700 sometimes and they make a lot of blunders every time.
definitely set to become a 1000 elo player if he keeps playing, 1200 though would've seen alot of nelson's tactics in this video, like the knight sac
@@TactfulWagglehe’s not a 1200 tho. He’s 700. He has a good foundation
@@danielbattle7620 that's why i said SET to BECOME
I mean in his actual rating climb Nelson even says the way to climb up to like 1300 to just not blunder, because its gonna happen. Can confirm it almost always happens
Hey! This is an awesome idea for a series, if you end up needing someone around the 1700 level for a video let me know! I would be thrilled to play a national master and get their thought process about my play as we play! :)
Let's do it! Send me an email at chessvibesyt@gmail.com and we can discuss further!
@@ChessVibesOfficial sent!
That was a fantastic video. I MUCH prefer ratings climbs and hearing your thoughts live to all other videos. This was a great take on that. Hope you do more.
That was the best non-cheating 700 I have ever seen . That guy is honestly playing at about 1100 level.
I went here to see if I could relate to a 700 player in his thought process but nope. He’s probably 2000 or something. Even at 1200 I didn’t know what openings were called and I had to count number and letters for what the squares were. Why do they do this? Put an ACTUAL 700 player.
This is fantastic. Listening to each of your monologues is exactly what I need to improve my (very weak) game. I love that you followed (and consciously didn't follow, with explanation why) several of your principles from you "35 Vital Chess Principles"video as it shows those and the thought processes in action. Subscribed!
This is extremely helpful to watch! Not only getting one perspective, but two on the same game, really shows the differences and what works and what doesn't.
I am interested to know when you were kicking the knight around at ~22:00, was there a reason you didn't consider a counterattack on your bishop from pawn to b4 instead of him moving the knight there? He'd be briefly down a pawn depending on how you responded, but not for long because you've got no good way to hold it (same as the other line you considered).
Nelsi, PLEASE do another video like this with you against an FM or GM
Or Jabba!
I just reached 724 today. Im so happy! If i can get out of 3 digits I will be very happy. Doing a 700 vs you is a good idea. Very informative!
Congrats! Take a look at one of you best recent games and see what Elo it estimates you at. Our boy here played at a whopping 1400 level, per Stockfish. I bet you've at least clocked at 1000 at some point and that can be encouraging (nevermind the abysmal games where you might also play like a 250 lmao)
Unfortunate that nelson's clock wasn't working :(
So much fun to watch the dual commentary - more please!
I honestly love this series Nelson for the educational value it provides, I'd love to see you challenge some higher rated players like a 1600 or even someone better than you like Daniel Naroditsky because the educational content in this series is so rich
Love this idea! Please do more if you can :)
The difference is 700 looks like he’s in an exam and 2200 looks like an alcoholic during lockdown.
It's people like him that even though I've been playing for 5 years and usually squash my opponents, keep me stuck at 700
This spiked my understanding alot, thanks for doing this!
this is a brilliant video. I really wish there were more like this available.
Both played very well
If YT had a 3x playback speed option I'd watch the whole video, but as is at 2x I'm considering clicking away 14 minutes in. (~1700 strength).
My man is 700 and knows more about opening moves than me and I am 1200 😅
8. … Nd4 seems pretty crushing. He can’t move the queen and allow Bg4 or doubled F pawns, and he can’t trade with the knight due to the fork, so he has to trade with the bishop. After exd4 his knight has no good squares (both squares give it zero moves), so Na4 a6 forces a favorable trade for black (Nxc5 axb4 Nb3 c5 with a solid pawn structure, space advantage, and better pieces).
@jackson if you continue to play like that as a 700, you've definitely got a bright future ahead of you! Well played. @nelson as always great content.
My man actually played so well for a 700, he'll be 1500+ in no time!
Fab do more of these please
I cant believe he is a 700 elo. He played like at least 1200. WP!
I was playing one of these chess apps the other day and got to 1650 elo fairly easily, but then it got hard. Topped off at 1800 elo and couldn't achieve any further.
I deleted the app because of all of the ads and spyware that came with it, but it was fun for a day.
Who is watching different timing..
The vernacular of this young man is cracking me up "We're taking with the bishop, Kobe" 😂😂😂
I like this format❤ Nelsi 👍
Hello Nelson; I've been enjoying your channel and the "how each side is thinking" approach. For this game at around the 21:00 - 22:00 mark I was wondering about a knight sacrifice with white knight d5->f6. It forces a take response by the pawn which would open up a hole in the king pawn defense, doubles up the f-file pawns, more heavily blocks in the rook (and it wouldn't be able to defend the lead f pawn), and if the knight on g6 stays, it could be pinned by a queen or rook on the g file. I often wonder about sacrifices, especially ones that offer up longer term benefits at the cost of fewer pieces to handle mid-game positioning. Thanks again!
Definitely a good understanding of the game for a 700. I would suggest you need to work on concrete calculations more than one move deep. Try to think two moves ahead rather than one! Easier said than done, of course.
Loved the content and impressed with Vegasbond play.
This guy was pretty darn good for 700 elo
amazing format, please keep doing these!
Fantastic video. More vids like this would be appreciated 👍
He’s really good for 700 Elo. Feels like he should be closer to 1200
VagabondChemist is good at stating his thought process. He played well. He is underrated in my opinion.
I like how Nelson has the ability apparently to stop time and analyze the position. That or the clock is frozen idk. Either or. You never know.
That's the strongest 700-player I've ever seen!
I am sorry but there's no way this guy is just 800 elo, i am almost 1400 and don't do as much calculations as he does there has got to be other explaination
This was really interesting! I hope you do more games like this sometime
Please have a match with a player with a higher elo than you in this series. Thanks!
The 700 is so smart with theory it's wild, bet he will raise quickly through the ranks with so much innate skill!
but this 700 player is better than the 1400 that was nervous and confused and lose a tower easily. This one understood everything and had no mistakes
This is what I call, "stolen victory"....Great skill & tactic...
Thanks for these! More more more!
and on his screen when its his turn its your turn
I also have a lower elo rating , but with countless downloads I finally got my hands on the DOPEST chess book in the world and now this looks like childsplay ! although, I would probably loose against the players but I am hanging with thought about this !
I think the 700 is somewhat better than that rating, perhaps he just hasn't played enough games to increase it yet. He's thinking and calculating at a higher level that that number, in my opinion.
a lot of 700's don't understand the kingside play ideas after castling. the ideas on the positions are really made from the opening.
correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure you were wrong when you said if you're queen was on c-8 instead of d-7 then he could get a smuther check mate by moving his queen from e-2 to c-4 forcing you're king to h-8 then moving the night from f-3 to g-5 and then to f-7. but even then..... he could not get a smuther check mate I'm pretty sure, there's no way to make a smuther check mate happen. you read that wrong i think,,,, plz correct me if I'm wrong :) :) :) 32:14 in the video :D
queen d1 instead of check might was surviving (at least last longer)
Bro the game was 15min but the video is 40min😮, good game by the way
Honestly, a 700 with 2 blunders... I don't see a problem there.
I'm really curious if, in the endgame, instead of taking the rook on f3, if jackson just pushed to g3 to block the knight and start a series of trades instead, how that would have gone...
what is going on with the clocks?
They are showing recording from start that is why real time it goes back to where they were recording that
From Nelson's perspective in this first game, the clocks say 15:10 and 15:08 for the entire game. Wheras, from his opponents perspective, the clocks count down the entire game. Somethings wrong there
@@LostKin69 By 37:52 of the video, the clocks from Nelson's perspective are lower but don't quite match the clocks from his opponent's perspective.
@@LostKin69 yes and when you look at Jackson part you will see that Nelson clock is ticking. So question remains what's wrong with them?
Gives me the feeling this is a misleading video, where 700 elo is real time thinking and Nelson is just explaining everything when he edited the video, I'm not saying that's what he did but if he did it's kinda weird.
Clock is reversed.. 😂😂 and ur clock ain't working 😂😂😂
Great video - thank you 💯
What's the difference?... Well everything! It's comparing a broken class where you have bandaged the broken glasses with an authentic glass, 2nd one's the only that does the job right
The comment at 8:30 perfectly sums up the Sveshnikov 😂
for me as for 2k rated black bishop on G4 was kinda useless, cause pawn h3 makes u lose a tempo
ok few second later in video u said yourself some of you might think its a waste of move, but we created a weakness now. makes sence, but ye... is it a weakness or not thats the question
Vagabond chemist is the best name
“Oh man, this got real” 😂
bro casally played brilliant move
I thought he was going to get destroyed. He played a couple of lousy moves but I think hung in that game more capably than I could have at 1150 🤦♂️
That was NOT the play of someone rated only 732; that was more like 1200-1300 territory. At least 1100, I’d say.
The thing I love about Chess is how much you have to think about what your opponent is thinking! Like when the queen took the bishop and he was talking about forcing the knight to a weird position then the other guy was talking about how he was planning on moving the night to said position if the queen took I love this game
People know opening names at 800 ELO? 😳 I'm 1600 and I still know just few names like caro kann, viena, London and some gambits😂😂😂😂
Instead of - Rf8 Black wins with pawn-mate Qh4+ Kf5 and g6 mate!
What elo are you
@@danielbattle7620Around 2000
@@bjarnieinarsson3472 would you ever mind playing a few unrated games with me? I always am looking to play the strongest
"Let's just not react" famous last words :D
Bro can't be 700. He just hasn't played enough to be higher.
That was really fun
He played better than done of the 1500's you play
Damn this guy is strong for a 700. Some inaccuracies here and there but other than that, he played like a 2000. He should prob improve on positional gameplay and tactical vision.
That's what happens when you actually pay attention to the board and actually use your brain. It is clear that he very focused on the game, something that most 700s don't do.
That 700 played pretty well.
Im also about 730ish. I feel the player is way smarter than me..
Oh good grief valentine season is upon us again.
He is 700,i am 1000 but i feel he played much better than i would lol
That looked so difficult to play against. Good on the 700 though
Deep dive into the mind of the 700 players I lose to, I know all their secrets now
This guy has to be from Georgia, his voice reminds me of Lil Yatchy
Antilopes may beat Nelson and Ruy. 😂