TalkToTheBody Then leave them alone. It is not about where you pee. It is about watching. Stop the bull. A man puts on a dress and in 6 months wins woman of the year.
Not just "her children"! She's concerned about WOMEN & girls! She's concerned about their safety, privacy, & rights. She concerned about the efforts of gender ideology activists to deprive women of free speech. She's concerned about the transitioning of minors, not just her own kids. She's concerned about fairness in sports & opportunities & resources being taken from women by men who "identify" as women. You miss the point if you think she is just doing this for her daughter.
These two women could save British common sense and deserve our support. Because nobody cares what you do in the bedroom and never have . This proposition that men must be accepted as women if they choose (and they do choose) is the single biggest threat to our Mum's, sisters, aunts, wives, girlfriends, daughters and Grandmas. and it should be fought against.
@JD jitsu It's because they're afraid to get targeted and dog-piled on by the these people. Look at what happened to Maya Forstarter last year where she lost her job because she didn't buy into trans ideology and was vocal about it. And then JK Rowling when she said she stood by Maya Forstarter, she received a ton of hate and even though she's in a good spot financially where she can't be fired and black-listed, it's just an example of what can happen if one (especially a woman) is vocal about not buying into trans ideology. I do agree that more people should speak up if they genuinely don't believe in this stuff but at the same time, I can understand why some people are too afraid to.
Brian Mosse-agree 110% on this,these people are men and should be treated as such whether'they wear a dress or not.They need sectioning not treatment.If they have a penis they are a man.Nothing else.Their just peodo"s who want access to young girls.Their sicko's.
TalkToTheBody femininity is forced upon women and then it is fetishized by men. Radical feminists always had a problem with compulsory femininity, there are entire books on that subject. The reason women can wear trousers is owed to the First Wave Feminists. The reason that women have religious restrictions on our clothing, hair, etc. and in some societies women are legally punished and killed for our clothing, is to emphasise the power differential between the oppressor and the oppressed. I agree with your point that heteronormative society is uncomfortable with either women or men refusing to adequately perform the stereotypes of their respective gender roles. However, women in trousers don’t get as much derision as do women with shaved heads who refuse makeup or the removal of all hair except head, brows and lashes. Butch lesbians get beaten up for how they look, female public figures are scrutinised and micromanaged into femininity. Just as men who want to dress creatively get derided for being “homos.” The clothing rules are rigid, as Naomi Wolf pointed out in “The Beauty Myth,” because they are meant to show the world who is in power and who is not. The most powerful in society are usually older wealthy (often white) men, who don’t have a requirement to look sexually appealing because of their power. Women and homosexual men still do not have the luxury of waltzing about looking however we want; powerful men can be bald, fat, hairy, wrinkled, grey-haired, dressed neck to ankles in a standardized suit & comfortable shoes, and makeup-free, and yet they get to own and run the world. The fetish of dressing as a woman, lusting after extremely young women who overperform femininity, or having sex with a feminine young man or a transsexual man is a fetish of the oppressor class. Sheila Jeffreys has several presentations on YT and has written numerous books on the subject of femininity as a fetish of POWER. There’s a lot more to this that won’t fit in a comments section, but I believe that due to that power difference and the outward significance of how one chooses to self-adorn, women recognise on some level that if their heretofore heterosexual husbands suddenly decide that wearing “women’s” clothing is something those husbands want to do, it’s more of a fetish than anything else. Not always, but more often than not.
@@katesteventon5296 It's seen as such a controversial topic. A lot of the woman who are vocal on this subject are now banned from most socal media, so unfortunately this conversation isn't getting out to people. It's seen as transphobic to even discuss this topic.
@@katesteventon5296. I dont think that's true at all. What we see is a very small but very loud group of people with a dangerous monopoly on the microphone. The silent majority won't lie down forever.
Fantastic interview Julia. How refreshing to allow a guest to speak. You’re one of the few presenters that does this so well. 100% support Posie Parker. She’s got more balls than most of ‘them’.
I suspect she was consciously carrying Posie because whilst Posie knows a hell of a lot on this area, she can forget the details are important to an audience that might not know the ins and outs of this subject. She can forget to take the time to explain.
I liked the Almodovar aesthetics to the set design, LOL. Makes a change from the chalky 'Ikea-does-Cornwall' colour scheme most podcasts and Skype interviews tend to use for background. Only Neil Oliver bucks the trend by going for more of a Hitchcock pastiche, making sure he's always either in shadow or appears as a talking silhouette. ;)
Totally agree. We’re talking about less than a single percentage point of the population here. This subject is everywhere. How on earth are they getting so much coverage?
I'm a 60 year old Woman, not cis anything, a woman, I'm bringing up two grandsons to know which sex is which and how to treat women, biological women! Trans can have what they want, their own changing rooms, their own Olympics etc but they will not change any bodys mind about thoughts!! Madness lies this way!!
@Mike in Halifax there's some people with a lot of power and they like to do experiments on nations. Maybe they want to kill the west. I teach my children to be respectful. To think first before speaking (I'm still learning too) but I don't teach them to tolerate.
Mike in Halifax , actually I think most trans people do not even to manipulate us. They just want to live their lives. It is an even smaller number of the trans activists that try to manipulate the society.
It’s not transphobic to say trans women aren’t women. You’re not lesser because you’re not a biological woman. Equally, you’re not lesser because you’re not a man. There is no inherent value to being a man or a woman. No one is calling you lesser. You’re just... not the sex you would like to be and that’s okay! Just don’t ask us to lie for you
I like the Ben Shapiro remark to the young 20 something student.... are you 60? Why can't you be 60? Why can you change your sex and not your age? What's the difference?
@@ryanboshell6124 you mean there is no reasoning based on logic, science and facts,?.. just deluded fantasy and a belief they can make us all pretend or be destroyed if we dont comply to the delusion.
But the trans want to be superior. You see trans rights makes no sense if the two biological genders have equal rights. It doesn't matter what gender you are, your rights are the same so to have trans rights means to have rights specific to trans people.and thus setting them apart from everyone else. That makes them superior.
Michael, there have been multiple petitions, meetings and television 'debates' about this issue and yet here we are. Women who speak out get death and rape threats, lose their jobs and are no-platformed for saying that men cannot become women. Look at comments on this thread blaming feminists (aka any woman who stands up for herself) for this mess. We need to stop the blame game and unite to stop our children being brainwashed and lied to. The trans cult is misogynistic, homophobic and regressive.
"@wrong think" as, I have to see you the way you see yourself and I love slim women, can we meet? But once I'm captive, how do I know you won't de-trans and prefer to see yourself as cis-fat again?
Presumably Craig your sons fathers brothers etc should also feel safe and comfortable? Like an elderly man should be able to choose who gives him intimate care and he may prefer a man? A boy may not want to get changed with a girl or woman either. This affects everyone.
I know this will be hard for women athletes, but if a transwoman attempts to compete the real women should walk away refuse to engage leave the transperson to compete with thierselves.
People only complain when trans women manage to win. Funny that. The studies have concluded that transwimen competing do not have an u due advantage. The facts are more important than your feels.
Leona Byzantium that is such a lie!! Anyone reading the lies above, check out Ross Tucker of sport science, he advises world rugby and the studies show *clearly* advantage is retained regardless of reduction in testosterone.
@@april-tui3524 There is no 'undue' advantage. Advantages in height are not 'undue'. There is no significant advantage in muscle mass, muscle development, or muscle retention after the set period on hormone treatment. The data doesn't care about your feelings.
Thank you for talking about this and raising public awareness about the damage trans-activism could do to the rights of women and girls everywhere if left unchallenged.
for those who find it hard to understand here and for one time only i shall give all those who believe there are more than 2 genders....there isn't,... here endeth the lesson
TalkToTheBody then those trans people should be willing to say: stop this nonsense, we don’t want to make women and girls uncomfortable and we don’t want reality to be ignored on our behalf.
Monty Python: “I want the right to be called Loretta” in the “LIFE OF BRIAN” and three decades later you can be in contempt of court for not doing so! WTF?!
Somebody needs to tell BBC Radio 4 to cease and desist spoonfeeding us daily with trans vicars, rugby players, trans everything and normalising the vile and insulting "cis" word. Just relentless. Well done Julia, Posie Parker is a legend!
@TalkToTheBody Tell me what your definition for '100% man' is and then I will answer your question. Because I'm not sure what your question is exactly.
Exactly! What about the rights and dignity of the person who wants to use normal language and who doesn't want to demean themselves, by using fake language? I refuse to play-along with using people's "correct pronoun". If they've messed-up their bodies with mutilating operations and drugs, then, sad as it is for them, that's their problem, not mine.
@TalkToTheBody You used the term '100% man', I'm still not sure what your definition for '100% man' is. Because you spoke about a crossdresser and a 'big butch guy'. Which one of these by your definition is '100% man'?
How refreshing to hear a sensible discussion from two exceptionally sensible women. Keep your campaign going forward. I wish you all the luck in the world!
Thank you for having Posy Parker on your show. She is a great advocate for women and young girls as well as society on the whole. This madness must end before it entirely gains traction. I know that some people are just beginning to learn about what is going on so hopefully by raising her profile more people will come on board. Respect from Ireland💕🍀🌟
Happening due to the American Government and Washington pushing it (yours across the pond), and then every other FREEMASON country follows suit. People better know what's REALLY going on and what all this truly means.
Wow, can't wait for the hysterical reaction from The Guardian. What entertaining times we live in!!!😃 They got Ian Stewart to argue against Free Speech, this from a man who stood on stage with his trousers around his ankles.
Posie is 100 % correct. This country is getting crazier by the day. If sport England continues to promote transgenders to compete as equals with female athletes at sporting events they must be boycotted by the majority of the sane population.
Notice that when people say they are “born in the wrong body” it’s never about their hands, their eyes, their knees, their skin colour. It’s always about genitals. I find the (imaginary) concept of being “born in the wrong body” to be extremely insulting to anyone born with a physical disability or, for example, an autoimmune disease. Are they meant to despise and reject their bodies as well? Many do, but many find pride and strength in the things about themselves that they cannot change; some get surgery or prosthetics or mechanical/technological assistance because they want the opportunity to function in the world with their differences. So many other groups of people with a common “dis”-ability have had to fight tooth and nail for acceptance, for reasonable accommodations, for necessary government funding, for wheelchair ramps, elevators, braille on signs, talking crosswalk signals, transportation, closed captioning, etc. and that’s simply to allow everyone to be able to participate and function in society. Unlike trans-identified men who are taking away women’s safe spaces, people with different physical needs aren’t rallying to have services taken AWAY from the physically able. To add a ramp doesn’t mean the stairs MUST be taken away from the majority of people who can use stairs. People who actually need accommodations have not even gained sufficient rights and funding and acceptance, and their needs are clearly seen and clearly determined by the medical community. They don’t “identify” as needing a wheelchair, they just NEED one. Women, POC, LGB individuals, indigenous people, differently-abled people, homeless people, exploited children and others have not got anywhere NEAR the media attention and legal backing that transgender-identified people have drummed up in roughly ten years.
@@beatrixkiddvideo2404 - There are a few nut jobs out there claiming to be born in the wrong skin colour, usually white people wishing they were black...
@@adrenalinejunkie3828 - But they're not happy, at least the activists aren't. They're not saying "Just leave us alone to get on with it", they're saying "We demand YOU change YOUR behaviour/speech to accommodate our delusions".
Have come to admire this lady a great deal. Takes guts to stick to your principles, especially in the face of such virulent attacks. So glad that a number of podcasters are giving her the platform that she deserves. The cancellation community must hate it.
I’m a gay male, i don’t agree with everything she says however I find Posie an incredible woman. Very brave & gutsy. Good on hold for for standing her ground, people that try & shut her down need to deal with their own insecurities. Great to hear women like these two to bring this to light
My friend worked in a women's clothing store and one day she had to fit a biological man for a bra. She explained she felt depressed afterwards because she was not allowed to refuse as there was no one else to assist. She's happy she's no longer working there.
Boycott ALL businesses that allow men in women's changing rooms! Don't shop there! They'll get the message when their profits are affected. That goes for kids clothing shops too. Go girls!!
67 years ago, when planetary science was in its infancy, I identified as someone from Mars who had been slotted into a human body. This was at a time when I was just eleven years old,and (for reasons) isolated and deeply unhappy. No one could convince me that I was not this Martian - only time sorted me.
@@peacemaker6662 The C16 (I think it was called) forced speech bill. Also , JP has had the ass torn out off much of his spew over the months , but the damage he bought on a struggling minority was unnecessary and cruel, especially for a professional psychologist. You expect it from the ll-informed trash that takes part in the comments section on a UA-cam thread..... I doubt your a genuine enquirer . You're probably just taking part in the left right divide that UA-cam offers for keyboard Warriors who can't be called out to their face. If you are genuinely inquisitive about the truth on the Jordan Peterson C16 bill, then you could find it on Cult of dusty COD podcast on UA-cam. He's quite milquetoast, self-explanatory and easy to understand.
My next door neighbour has a trans-woman carer....she is old school and is entirely uncomfortable with it.....but is too afraid to say anything in case the council takes umbrage and removes all her care completely!!!
I’m excited that someone is finally saying what I’ve been noticing for a long time lately. A trans has not experienced what it’s like to be born a woman regardless of how much surgery or hormones . It does not make it OK to reduce real woman. It’s not OK to impede our spaces and places. Women issues are separate from LGBT. They are separate.
I would question how these young men were raised, when they think it is acceptable to enter womens sport when they are annihilating the poor girls with little effort, morally its a disgrace.
It's mostly a case by case basis but yeah that would be a good place to start. The problem is that these "Trans" people are not very upfront and honest about their childhood because they know if they are truthful, it'll expose the fakeness of the trans ideology.
I was beaten as a child for lying. It affected me so deeply that I find it nigh on impossible to lie. I cannot see how telling the truth regarding a man's pronouns can be held against me in a court of law. How can the judge compel me or anyone else to lie under oath? I will never understand because it is incomprehensible.
We appear, as a society, to have become so afraid to hurt peoples feelings, for whatever reason, that we are rapidly losing sight of common sense and basic sanity ...there’s more problems created by treating people as ‘equal and interchangeable’ than we have ever fathomed..it’s more than just upsetting certain individuals. Surely thisrequires deep sensible conversations like this one ☝️ without being labelled as using ‘hatespeech’ or ‘bigots’ or ‘phobes’ as that just isn’t helpful and prevents us all moving forward.
Think its more sinister than that - as no one is worried about offending women by invading their sport and bathrooms or offending heterosexuals' by calling them cis women and cis men.
Fantastic and Terrific, we can not with clear consciousness support what is happening to women and especially children. Please speak out and talk to your MP.
I never , ever imagined that I would witness two British women discussing the idea of whether a man can be a woman or vice versa . Please people can we put this idea to bed before the world starts laughing at us .
This ideology is spreading throughout the Anglophone world: the USA, Canada, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand. It is making particularly deep inroads into New Zealand and Australia society/culture atm. So I guess it's a bit late. But the fight back is coming out, with the UK leading the field. We're known as Terf Island.
When Posie talks about girls who don't want to be women having their breasts removed, I can't help thinking of the connection with anorexia whereby one of the reasons girls become anorexic is because they are terrified of adult sexuality, in many cases because they have been abused by boys or men. Whatever the reasons anyone presents for cutting their body, I feel a lot of therapy is needed.
This trans, non binary, gender fluid etc is a matter of privilege. In Other parts of the world people are facing real threatening life issues like, hunger, famine, war, female mutilation, etc hence they don’t have these worries, they are busy thinking of how to live through the harsh realities called their life.
I love Kelly , keeling it real ! I’m a gay man and I’ve always said being a woman is the experiences of becoming a woman from girlhood, a man transiting to a woman is a trans woman ! Not a woman !
It is also not true that if a child threatens suicide you would "do everything you can if that's what they want to keep them alive". My adult son is a suicide survivor. I did not affirm his vulnerable thinking (which was nothing to do with trans) because his thought process was skewed and dysfunctional. I did not cater to his unhealthy focus on the circumstances that prompted his suicidal ideology. Rather, I employed crisis intervention methods per best practice. I validated him as a person separate from his crisis. I kept him busy attending to things that needed to be done until we could get him into a behavioral health hospital. I helped him re-direct his negative thoughts to a more positive effort: "Start where you are, use what you have, do what you can". I did not provide him with the tools and resources he required to complete his suicide even though he said that was what he wanted. It is reasonable to address the modern trans issue as children, teens, and parents as perceiving trans as a popular move, as an accepted means towards acquiring social status and progressive points. This is an age group historically that is dominated by peer pressure and wanting to be liked and noticed. When anyone is in crisis - whether a child, a teen, young adult or any age, safety is a first priority. If safety is accepted as the priority, then parents would be far less likely to hastily agree to transitional "therapy" which does not hide that fact that they are literally experimenting on humans with no clue how powerful chemicals and irreversible procedures will generate unknown outcomes psychologically, physically, socially, and spiritually for their victims. Parents invest far more time price comparing a new car or researching the market for their investment account than they do "transitioning". What a travesty.
When the Green Party refer to women as 'non-trans women', you realise how messed up this all is
justsay no Needs more work!? 😎🔫🤮Reeeeeeeeeee!!
A dog that thinks its a cat is a trans-cat
A cat that is just a cat is a non-trans cat
Lunacy.
Ready to do something? So are we - Google Orel - the Polstrat Project "Madness in the Western World."
When you realise how many parents have had their sons castrated before pubity you realise we're living in some crazy dystopian future.
you are kidding
Listened to this lady before, very brave and talks a lot of sense, basically she wants her children to be safe, like all of us.
TalkToTheBody
Then leave them alone. It is not about where you pee. It is about watching.
Stop the bull. A man puts on a dress and in 6 months wins woman of the year.
Not just "her children"! She's concerned about WOMEN & girls! She's concerned about their safety, privacy, & rights. She concerned about the efforts of gender ideology activists to deprive women of free speech. She's concerned about the transitioning of minors, not just her own kids. She's concerned about fairness in sports & opportunities & resources being taken from women by men who "identify" as women. You miss the point if you think she is just doing this for her daughter.
These two women could save British common sense and deserve our support. Because nobody cares what you do in the bedroom and never have . This proposition that men must be accepted as women if they choose (and they do choose) is the single biggest threat to our Mum's, sisters, aunts, wives, girlfriends, daughters and Grandmas. and it should be fought against.
As Dawn Butler went on record and said “children are born without a sex”, what the hell then is a trans woman? 🤔
@JD jitsu It's because they're afraid to get targeted and dog-piled on by the these people. Look at what happened to Maya Forstarter last year where she lost her job because she didn't buy into trans ideology and was vocal about it. And then JK Rowling when she said she stood by Maya Forstarter, she received a ton of hate and even though she's in a good spot financially where she can't be fired and black-listed, it's just an example of what can happen if one (especially a woman) is vocal about not buying into trans ideology. I do agree that more people should speak up if they genuinely don't believe in this stuff but at the same time, I can understand why some people are too afraid to.
Brian Mosse-agree 110% on this,these people are men and should be treated as such whether'they wear a dress or not.They need sectioning not treatment.If they have a penis they are a man.Nothing else.Their just peodo"s who want access to young girls.Their sicko's.
@TalkToTheBody Flowery claptrap is the stuff of one's inability to convince.
TalkToTheBody femininity is forced upon women and then it is fetishized by men. Radical feminists always had a problem with compulsory femininity, there are entire books on that subject. The reason women can wear trousers is owed to the First Wave Feminists. The reason that women have religious restrictions on our clothing, hair, etc. and in some societies women are legally punished and killed for our clothing, is to emphasise the power differential between the oppressor and the oppressed. I agree with your point that heteronormative society is uncomfortable with either women or men refusing to adequately perform the stereotypes of their respective gender roles. However, women in trousers don’t get as much derision as do women with shaved heads who refuse makeup or the removal of all hair except head, brows and lashes. Butch lesbians get beaten up for how they look, female public figures are scrutinised and micromanaged into femininity. Just as men who want to dress creatively get derided for being “homos.” The clothing rules are rigid, as Naomi Wolf pointed out in “The Beauty Myth,” because they are meant to show the world who is in power and who is not. The most powerful in society are usually older wealthy (often white) men, who don’t have a requirement to look sexually appealing because of their power. Women and homosexual men still do not have the luxury of waltzing about looking however we want; powerful men can be bald, fat, hairy, wrinkled, grey-haired, dressed neck to ankles in a standardized suit & comfortable shoes, and makeup-free, and yet they get to own and run the world.
The fetish of dressing as a woman, lusting after extremely young women who overperform femininity, or having sex with a feminine young man or a transsexual man is a fetish of the oppressor class. Sheila Jeffreys has several presentations on YT and has written numerous books on the subject of femininity as a fetish of POWER.
There’s a lot more to this that won’t fit in a comments section, but I believe that due to that power difference and the outward significance of how one chooses to self-adorn, women recognise on some level that if their heretofore heterosexual husbands suddenly decide that wearing “women’s” clothing is something those husbands want to do, it’s more of a fetish than anything else. Not always, but more often than not.
I'm a black WOMAN and I love these two strong WOMEN ❤️❤️ !
@Cassettes/Records Analog/Digital chubby lol. Thanks for letting us know 👍 lol
“Women don’t have penises “ 😲I thought there was something strange about my wife
@@mrjagriff hahahaha
Me too, man here.... strong women like this i look upon so fondly.
@@mrjagriff 😁😆😅🤣🤣
This is a battle that women cannot afford to lose.
Unfortunately it’s a battle most biological women are blind to
Kate Steventon as are most biological men.
@@katesteventon5296 It's seen as such a controversial topic. A lot of the woman who are vocal on this subject are now banned from most socal media, so unfortunately this conversation isn't getting out to people. It's seen as transphobic to even discuss this topic.
@@katesteventon5296. I dont think that's true at all. What we see is a very small but very loud group of people with a dangerous monopoly on the microphone.
The silent majority won't lie down forever.
I think we’ve lost it I’m afraid.
Fantastic interview Julia. How refreshing to allow a guest to speak. You’re one of the few presenters that does this so well. 100% support Posie Parker. She’s got more balls than most of ‘them’.
Oh come on, you can't be serious. Give me a break.
@@michaelmurray6577 well, I can tell your a guy 😎
Michael Murray You have a problem with facts and reality? You can't be serious. Get educated or shut the f*ck up.
Who's 'them'?
God bless Posie Parker!
good interview and Julia obviously needed to get her view out there. This agenda is evil, especially transitioning children
I suspect she was consciously carrying Posie because whilst Posie knows a hell of a lot on this area, she can forget the details are important to an audience that might not know the ins and outs of this subject. She can forget to take the time to explain.
This will be called Masshysteria in history books.
I liked the Almodovar aesthetics to the set design, LOL. Makes a change from the chalky 'Ikea-does-Cornwall' colour scheme most podcasts and Skype interviews tend to use for background. Only Neil Oliver bucks the trend by going for more of a Hitchcock pastiche, making sure he's always either in shadow or appears as a talking silhouette. ;)
We need to reframe this conversation: it's not "trans rights" it's trans privileges. I'm with Posie 100%, revoke the GRA
Absolutely, these men want the privilege to use women and girls safe spaces and compete and wreck women’s sports.
Totally agree. We’re talking about less than a single percentage point of the population here. This subject is everywhere. How on earth are they getting so much coverage?
Two brilliant women. Thank god we still have people like this around to fight the stupidity. I appreciate you both.
Dammed straight…
Funny these days when you have to put your head on the block to justify the bloody obvious 🙄
I'm a 60 year old Woman, not cis anything, a woman, I'm bringing up two grandsons to know which sex is which and how to treat women, biological women! Trans can have what they want, their own changing rooms, their own Olympics etc but they will not change any bodys mind about thoughts!! Madness lies this way!!
👏👏👏👏👏👏👌👌👌👌👌
Yes!
@Mike in Halifax there's some people with a lot of power and they like to do experiments on nations. Maybe they want to kill the west.
I teach my children to be respectful. To think first before speaking (I'm still learning too) but I don't teach them to tolerate.
As a trans person.....we walk amongst you. Be afraid.
Mike in Halifax , actually I think most trans people do not even to manipulate us. They just want to live their lives. It is an even smaller number of the trans activists that try to manipulate the society.
It’s not transphobic to say trans women aren’t women. You’re not lesser because you’re not a biological woman. Equally, you’re not lesser because you’re not a man. There is no inherent value to being a man or a woman. No one is calling you lesser. You’re just... not the sex you would like to be and that’s okay! Just don’t ask us to lie for you
A practical solution to an actual problem.
I like the Ben Shapiro remark to the young 20 something student.... are you 60? Why can't you be 60? Why can you change your sex and not your age? What's the difference?
@@DaddyBaggio tbf I've tried that question. It doesnt work
@@ryanboshell6124 you mean there is no reasoning based on logic, science and facts,?.. just deluded fantasy and a belief they can make us all pretend or be destroyed if we dont comply to the delusion.
But the trans want to be superior. You see trans rights makes no sense if the two biological genders have equal rights. It doesn't matter what gender you are, your rights are the same so to have trans rights means to have rights specific to trans people.and thus setting them apart from everyone else. That makes them superior.
Could we not get an online petition to stop this madness, and present it to Parliament. I am sure millions would sign it.
Good idea. Please get it off the ground: act, don't react.
Only if you're self-employed. Unless you didn't like your job.
Sp-e-rm can, not be creat,ed by fem,ales. Eg-gs cannot be created by ma,les. end of discussion
I would sign it please
Michael, there have been multiple petitions, meetings and television 'debates' about this issue and yet here we are. Women who speak out get death and rape threats, lose their jobs and are no-platformed for saying that men cannot become women. Look at comments on this thread blaming feminists (aka any woman who stands up for herself) for this mess. We need to stop the blame game and unite to stop our children being brainwashed and lied to. The trans cult is misogynistic, homophobic and regressive.
I'm fat but identity as slim. I'm translender!! It's a complete mockery of womanhood to suggest you can just 'choose' to become one.
I might have to steal that!
"Trans-slender" HAHAHA
"@wrong think" as, I have to see you the way you see yourself and I love slim women, can we meet?
But once I'm captive, how do I know you won't de-trans and prefer to see yourself as cis-fat again?
You're a slim person trapped in a fat body ?
Trans-slender? Like it, like it....
Of course men care about this issue, we have daughters, wives, mothers, sisters etc, & we want them to feel comfortable & safe in society.
CRAIGWALDEN1 I think it's unfair that men's opinions are being ignored, this affects the whole of society.
Jacqui Layton men’s opinions aren’t being ignored, not enough of them are talking about this.
Presumably Craig your sons fathers brothers etc should also feel safe and comfortable? Like an elderly man should be able to choose who gives him intimate care and he may prefer a man? A boy may not want to get changed with a girl or woman either. This affects everyone.
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CRAIGWALDEN1 yes but we’re not allowed to say that lol
Two intelligent adult human females talking common sense. You'd never get this on BBC Radio Four's 'Woman's Hour'...
Sneevron Sykes if it ain’t gay it’s not on
Woman's Hour....yuck!
Jenny Murray 'Woman's Hour' got in trouble for saying similar apparently.
@@thecovidprisoner Fair comment...
"Women's complete waste of the license payer's money Hour" as an old friend at the BBC once called it.
If someone calls you transphobic, just say, "No, I don't identify with that word"
A phobia is an irrational fear, not rational distaste.
@@ericdelf That’s even a better answer. I ‘ll keep it in mind. Thanks!
I started out very sympathetic to trans rights but that is dissipating quickly. Why do people, especially on the left always have to go too far
Lovely, two of my favorite real women worth listening to any time. Spot on the truth as usual.
What a brace of brilliant women!
@TalkToTheBody What's your problem?
I know this will be hard for women athletes, but if a transwoman attempts to compete the real women should walk away refuse to engage leave the transperson to compete with thierselves.
People only complain when trans women manage to win. Funny that. The studies have concluded that transwimen competing do not have an u due advantage. The facts are more important than your feels.
Totally agree.
@@SnuggLeona get real transwomen have a physical advantage they're not women
Leona Byzantium that is such a lie!! Anyone reading the lies above, check out Ross Tucker of sport science, he advises world rugby and the studies show *clearly* advantage is retained regardless of reduction in testosterone.
@@april-tui3524 There is no 'undue' advantage. Advantages in height are not 'undue'. There is no significant advantage in muscle mass, muscle development, or muscle retention after the set period on hormone treatment.
The data doesn't care about your feelings.
Grown women, confident in who they are, having a conversation. Splendid :).
2 smart women overflowing with compassion, empathy, but most importantly, common sense.
Stop Simping
Bravo julia, I am proud that you are an adult human female... much respect to you and the courageous posie..
Thank you for talking about this and raising public awareness about the damage trans-activism could do to the rights of women and girls everywhere if left unchallenged.
IMO transitioning children is an abhorrent evil.
for those who find it hard to understand here and for one time only i shall give all those who believe there are more than 2 genders....there isn't,... here endeth the lesson
Two fine, strong, women 👍👍👍
Two fine , strong adult human females
I got a lot of respect for both of them
Trans...…...erasing real women's rights.....
It doesn't help when everyone is called a guy. Hi guys!
TalkToTheBody then those trans people should be willing to say: stop this nonsense, we don’t want to make women and girls uncomfortable and we don’t want reality to be ignored on our behalf.
Sp-e-rm can, not be creat,ed by fem,ales. Eg-gs cannot be created by ma,les. end of discussion
Black Knight Fool 🙄 you’re an idiot
Explain please
Monty Python: “I want the right to be called Loretta” in the “LIFE OF BRIAN” and three decades later you can be in contempt of court for not doing so! WTF?!
Great show ladies!!! Love from Australia 🇦🇺 ❤ We as women cannot afford to lose this fight!!!
Nice! Two of my favorite adult human females.
Julia and Posie talking complete sense against all the odds..Amazing wonderful ladies. Love you both.
Julia and Posie talking complete sense against all the odds..Amazing wonderful ladies. Love you both.
♥♥♥Thank you both for speaking up for us and common sense ❤❤❤
Somebody needs to tell BBC Radio 4 to cease and desist spoonfeeding us daily with trans vicars, rugby players, trans everything and normalising the vile and insulting "cis" word. Just relentless. Well done Julia, Posie Parker is a legend!
There is no such thing as a 'trans-woman or a trans-man'. I'm sick of people saying "As a matter of courtesy, I will refer to them as she".
I saw a comment the other day which made me chuckle. “I identify as Michael Jackson and prefer the pronouns He and Hee Hee!” 😂
@TalkToTheBody Tell me what your definition for '100% man' is and then I will answer your question. Because I'm not sure what your question is exactly.
Exactly! What about the rights and dignity of the person who wants to use normal language and who doesn't want to demean themselves, by using fake language? I refuse to play-along with using people's "correct pronoun". If they've messed-up their bodies with mutilating operations and drugs, then, sad as it is for them, that's their problem, not mine.
@TalkToTheBody You used the term '100% man', I'm still not sure what your definition for '100% man' is. Because you spoke about a crossdresser and a 'big butch guy'. Which one of these by your definition is '100% man'?
@@fox39forever This is exactly my thinking. Where is the 'curtesy' to ordinary sane people?
A very interesting discussion . Posie is very glamorous and a little like Marilyn Munro
SEXIST!!!!
Sexist ? So what! Lol
How refreshing to hear a sensible discussion from two exceptionally sensible women. Keep your campaign going forward. I wish you all the luck in the world!
Thank you for having Posy Parker on your show. She is a great advocate for women and young girls as well as society on the whole. This madness must end before it entirely gains traction. I know that some people are just beginning to learn about what is going on so hopefully by raising her profile more people will come on board. Respect from Ireland💕🍀🌟
How refreshing!!!! I loved this ❤🎉
So refreshing to see two highly intelligent women speaking so much sense.
Brilliant julia and posie,,, we are the 95% of same people. We will bring sanity back to the mainstream because it’s the truth..
Our children are being abused all over the country with the full approval of the state, it's utterly disgusting and reprehensible.
Happening due to the American Government and Washington pushing it (yours across the pond), and then every other FREEMASON country follows suit. People better know what's REALLY going on and what all this truly means.
It is the duty of good men to make every effort to ensure society is safe for women & children.
If the women let them...
Yes! Thank you x
Thank God for these conversations Julia. Both of you are superb. Common sense and intelligent women. Thank you.
Wow, can't wait for the hysterical reaction from The Guardian. What entertaining times we live in!!!😃
They got Ian Stewart to argue against Free Speech, this from a man who stood on stage with his trousers around his ankles.
Posie is definitely a force to be reckoned with!
The world is gone mad, run by evil.
Sp,erm cannot be created by females. Eggs cannot be created by males. end of argument
Yes it's called Jewish thinking.
Teddy Dixon yep. Until Posie and co are willing to be honest about they they will always be fighting a ghost.
Posie is 100 % correct. This country is getting crazier by the day. If sport England continues to promote transgenders to compete as equals with female athletes at sporting events they must be boycotted by the majority of the sane population.
"born in the wrong body" i lost so many cookies listening to that. what a spit in the face of mother nature. should be grateful your born at all.
I would like to have been born in the body of "Pele" and paid for the skills he had.
Sp-e-rm can, not be creat,ed by fem,ales. Eg-gs cannot be created by ma,les. end of discussion
Notice that when people say they are “born in the wrong body” it’s never about their hands, their eyes, their knees, their skin colour. It’s always about genitals.
I find the (imaginary) concept of being “born in the wrong body” to be extremely insulting to anyone born with a physical disability or, for example, an autoimmune disease. Are they meant to despise and reject their bodies as well? Many do, but many find pride and strength in the things about themselves that they cannot change; some get surgery or prosthetics or mechanical/technological assistance because they want the opportunity to function in the world with their differences. So many other groups of people with a common “dis”-ability have had to fight tooth and nail for acceptance, for reasonable accommodations, for necessary government funding, for wheelchair ramps, elevators, braille on signs, talking crosswalk signals, transportation, closed captioning, etc. and that’s simply to allow everyone to be able to participate and function in society. Unlike trans-identified men who are taking away women’s safe spaces, people with different physical needs aren’t rallying to have services taken AWAY from the physically able. To add a ramp doesn’t mean the stairs MUST be taken away from the majority of people who can use stairs. People who actually need accommodations have not even gained sufficient rights and funding and acceptance, and their needs are clearly seen and clearly determined by the medical community. They don’t “identify” as needing a wheelchair, they just NEED one.
Women, POC, LGB individuals, indigenous people, differently-abled people, homeless people, exploited children and others have not got anywhere NEAR the media attention and legal backing that transgender-identified people have drummed up in roughly ten years.
@@beatrixkiddvideo2404 - There are a few nut jobs out there claiming to be born in the wrong skin colour, usually white people wishing they were black...
@@adrenalinejunkie3828 - But they're not happy, at least the activists aren't. They're not saying "Just leave us alone to get on with it", they're saying "We demand YOU change YOUR behaviour/speech to accommodate our delusions".
Two...REAL WOMEN...talking pure sense!
This is Christmas; 2 of my absolute favourites; Strong, intelligent women, both of whom don’t put up with nonsense ❤️
Yes, I clicked onto it in seconds
All I hear throughout this interview is.... plain, simple COMMON SENSE.
Above all. welcome back JHB, I was getting worried that Mike Graham has taken over Talk Radio.
We need more of these discussions.
"But you cant have a baby Stan!?!.. Where's the fetus going to gestate?!!.. In a BOX!!?'
Don't you oppress me..
loretta-phobe
"Its symbolic of his struggle against reality more like"
@@isaachunt7263 I'm not oppressing you Stan!!.. You haven't got a womb!!!
@@deetotheski9642 hahaha touché
Have come to admire this lady a great deal. Takes guts to stick to your principles, especially in the face of such virulent attacks. So glad that a number of podcasters are giving her the platform that she deserves. The cancellation community must hate it.
great discussion and interview, finally some people standing up against this total nonsense
How have i not seen this before?!!!
Love posie and JHB!
I’m a gay male, i don’t agree with everything she says however I find Posie an incredible woman. Very brave & gutsy. Good on hold for for standing her ground, people that try & shut her down need to deal with their own insecurities. Great to hear women like these two to bring this to light
My friend worked in a women's clothing store and one day she had to fit a biological man for a bra. She explained she felt depressed afterwards because she was not allowed to refuse as there was no one else to assist. She's happy she's no longer working there.
Boycott ALL businesses that allow men in women's changing rooms! Don't shop there! They'll get the message when their profits are affected. That goes for kids clothing shops too. Go girls!!
Trans-phobia: The fear that a trans complains to the police because you disagree with them!
I'm a man (an "actually" man, yes) and couldn't agree more with them both.
67 years ago, when planetary science was in its infancy, I identified as someone from Mars who had been slotted into a human body. This was at a time when I was just eleven years old,and (for reasons) isolated and deeply unhappy. No one could convince me that I was not this Martian - only time sorted me.
With you ALL THE WAY Posie Parker 💐 - it's madness at it's finest. Thank You for all that you do. NZ supporter and a woman.
Posie.... the pocket battleship xx
Jordan Petersen was way ahead of the curve on the pronoun thing.
Yes he was and it has to be said Feminist's were at the head of the que calling him Transphobic.
It was proved a lie by JP.
Your very behind the times.
@@jaderington Pray tell... what was a lie?
@@peacemaker6662 The C16 (I think it was called) forced speech bill.
Also , JP has had the ass torn out off much of his spew over the months , but the damage he bought on a struggling minority was unnecessary and cruel, especially for a professional psychologist.
You expect it from the ll-informed trash that takes part in the comments section on a UA-cam thread.....
I doubt your a genuine enquirer .
You're probably just taking part in the left right divide that UA-cam offers for keyboard Warriors who can't be called out to their face.
If you are genuinely inquisitive about the truth on the Jordan Peterson C16 bill, then you could find it on Cult of dusty COD podcast on UA-cam.
He's quite milquetoast, self-explanatory and easy to understand.
@TalkToTheBody Thanks .
I read some of your comments to.
I thought they were on point and concise.
I Agree in all these points . Keep up the good work you two.
Thank you both for this conversation that needed to be had about this particular insanity afflicting itself upon the world.
A law that no trans treatment until 18yrs old on the NHS should be rushed though
From across the pond. Thank you Posie
My next door neighbour has a trans-woman carer....she is old school and is entirely uncomfortable with it.....but is too afraid to say anything in case the council takes umbrage and removes all her care completely!!!
Two of the best ladies to talk about this subject. 💚☘️🇮🇪😉
Great interview from these two adult females! 😅
I’m excited that someone is finally saying what I’ve been noticing for a long time lately. A trans has not experienced what it’s like to be born a woman regardless of how much surgery or hormones . It does not make it OK to reduce real woman. It’s not OK to impede our spaces and places. Women issues are separate from LGBT. They are separate.
Great conversation, well needed, I hope people take note. Thanks to both of you ladies
I would question how these young men were raised, when they think it is acceptable to enter womens sport when they are annihilating the poor girls with little effort, morally its a disgrace.
It's mostly a case by case basis but yeah that would be a good place to start. The problem is that these "Trans" people are not very upfront and honest about their childhood because they know if they are truthful, it'll expose the fakeness of the trans ideology.
I was beaten as a child for lying. It affected me so deeply that I find it nigh on impossible to lie. I cannot see how telling the truth regarding a man's pronouns can be held against me in a court of law. How can the judge compel me or anyone else to lie under oath? I will never understand because it is incomprehensible.
We appear, as a society, to have become so afraid to hurt peoples feelings, for whatever reason, that we are rapidly losing sight of common sense and basic sanity ...there’s more problems created by treating people as ‘equal and interchangeable’ than we have ever fathomed..it’s more than just upsetting certain individuals.
Surely thisrequires deep sensible conversations like this one ☝️ without being labelled as using ‘hatespeech’ or ‘bigots’ or ‘phobes’ as that just isn’t helpful and prevents us all moving forward.
Think its more sinister than that - as no one is worried about offending women by invading their sport and bathrooms or offending heterosexuals' by calling them cis women and cis men.
Jordan Peterson, on this subject is truly worth a listen, thanks! ladies for this much needed conversation.
Two REAL women standing up for the rights of REAL women. Thank you 🙏🏻
Absolutely wonderful to listen to two normal women. Loved it. 💕
Wow! Julia is awesome for hosting this interview! Kellie Jay Keen is a LEGEND and a HERO!!! Thank you!
Finding my voice in Tranada!
Don't interrupt your enemy when he is busy making a mistake.
Sounds like Sun Tsu.
Fantastic and Terrific, we can not with clear consciousness support what is happening to women and especially children. Please speak out and talk to your MP.
I never , ever imagined that I would witness two British women discussing the idea of whether a man can be a woman or vice versa . Please people can we put this idea to bed before the world starts laughing at us .
Too late - but sadly not the only country
This ideology is spreading throughout the Anglophone world: the USA, Canada, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand. It is making particularly deep inroads into New Zealand and Australia society/culture atm.
So I guess it's a bit late. But the fight back is coming out, with the UK leading the field. We're known as Terf Island.
Brilliant interview. Two of the best heroines of our time - speaking up for women. Thank you.
Thank you very informative and interesting and thought provoking..
As always Julia your shows are a welcome breath of fresh air loaded with rationale.
Transphobia doesn't exist
You can't be 'phobic' about something that doesn't exist
It's nonsense
Reject their nonsense
I could listen to you two ladies (women) talking for hours, a lot of sense spoken 👏.
When Posie talks about girls who don't want to be women having their breasts removed, I can't help thinking of the connection with anorexia whereby one of the reasons girls become anorexic is because they are terrified of adult sexuality, in many cases because they have been abused by boys or men. Whatever the reasons anyone presents for cutting their body, I feel a lot of therapy is needed.
I'm a 72 year old man!! I thick posie speeks good old down to earth common sense.Rationality rules over progriessive woke idiots!
This trans, non binary, gender fluid etc is a matter of privilege. In Other parts of the world people are facing real threatening life issues like, hunger, famine, war, female mutilation, etc hence they don’t have these worries, they are busy thinking of how to live through the harsh realities called their life.
True that
I love Kelly , keeling it real ! I’m a gay man and I’ve always said being a woman is the experiences of becoming a woman from girlhood, a man transiting to a woman is a trans woman ! Not a woman !
It is also not true that if a child threatens suicide you would "do everything you can if that's what they want to keep them alive". My adult son is a suicide survivor. I did not affirm his vulnerable thinking (which was nothing to do with trans) because his thought process was skewed and dysfunctional. I did not cater to his unhealthy focus on the circumstances that prompted his suicidal ideology. Rather, I employed crisis intervention methods per best practice. I validated him as a person separate from his crisis. I kept him busy attending to things that needed to be done until we could get him into a behavioral health hospital. I helped him re-direct his negative thoughts to a more positive effort: "Start where you are, use what you have, do what you can". I did not provide him with the tools and resources he required to complete his suicide even though he said that was what he wanted.
It is reasonable to address the modern trans issue as children, teens, and parents as perceiving trans as a popular move, as an accepted means towards acquiring social status and progressive points. This is an age group historically that is dominated by peer pressure and wanting to be liked and noticed. When anyone is in crisis - whether a child, a teen, young adult or any age, safety is a first priority. If safety is accepted as the priority, then parents would be far less likely to hastily agree to transitional "therapy" which does not hide that fact that they are literally experimenting on humans with no clue how powerful chemicals and irreversible procedures will generate unknown outcomes psychologically, physically, socially, and spiritually for their victims. Parents invest far more time price comparing a new car or researching the market for their investment account than they do "transitioning". What a travesty.
Very very well stated!
Oh well done. Glad you invited Posie on. Been following her on uTube...
It’s ok to be transphobic.
How long before people get offended on behalf of peodos and call those who object Peodophobic? Where is the line?
i aint scared of no tram
No such condition nor is the construct grammatically sound.
@
what about 'heterophobia'?
Michael Edwards god that’s horrifying 😱😱 this is where labour is dangerous ..
good to see there are still some sane people around.