Shoei GT Air Helmet Review at RevZilla.com
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
- Shoei GT Air Helmet Review
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New for 2013, the Shoei GT Air is the newest addition to the Integrated Sunvisor collection from Shoei, joining the ranks of the Neotec and the new J-Cruise. The GT Air is purpose built for the touring rider who wants the creature comforts offered in the Neotec, but prefers a full face helmet. The GT Air uses the Shoei AIM shell to aerodynamically incorporate the sunvisor and the spoiler. The result is a sporty shape helmet that makes no compromise in outer shell or EPS liner to incorporate the internal sun visor. The GT Air will have 3 shell sizes and 4 EPS liners and is DOT rated only. The air flow of the GT Air is truly impressive and appropriately named. The over-sized top vent, dual channel EPS liner and large vent holes move an impressive amount of air over, creating a Mohawk of air over the head. With the dramatic increase in air, there is no increase in wind turbulence or noise. The new interior is more encompassing plush, and helps to better create surround the head. The GT Air also makes it easy for riders who use aftermarket bluetooth kits by positioning the sunvisor slide near the faceshield and even gives deep speaker cut-outs within the EPS liner. The GT Air will be offered in a variety of solid and graphic options.
7:36 three settings......opened and closed :)
+thanxx came here for this
Shoei RF 1000 saved my life this past Saturday. Shoei fan now for life!
We are eager to shoot the graphics and as soon as they come in stock, we will produce videos. Stay tuned! ~Ali
We will shoot graphical overviews of both the GT Air Journey and the Wanderer as soon as they are in stock. Stay tuned! ~Ali
I bought this helmet about a note ago. The helmet is light weight and flows a ton of air. It is not as quite as I would like it to be for the price. The wide visor increases my ability to see the road. I ride an adventure bike in 85 degree weather and my head remains cool on long trips.
I just bought a GT Air today and was working with the Shoei rep for our area. He told me the GT Air is a long oval. He measured my dome and it came out to be exactly that, a long oval. Never have I had a helmet that felt this good. I wore it for a good five hours and I am amazed that a helmet can be this comfortable and quiet. I'll never own a cheap lid again. I'm probably a Shoei customer for life. Can't recommend this helmet enough.
It is a bit longer than their other helmets, but we still put it within the intermediate oval category. What really matters is that you got a great helmet that fits! -DrewZilla
As a Neotec owner I think it's great Shoei now have a full face helmet with an internal sun visor! Can't wait to see what the GT Air is like when it hits the shops :)
Just got one with the Sena 10U Bluetooth. Love everything about this helmet. Good with eye glasses, Sena, air flow and comfort.
For noise, the Shoei Qwest or Shoei GT-Air are probably your best bet. The XR-1100 is more of a sport helmet, whereas the other two are touring focused. Generally speaking, touring type helmets are quieter. -CK
I'm using this helmet three years later and it is still great. works well with my Sena 20s. Thanks Revzilla
What kind of bike do you ride and do you have a windscreen? Hard to tell if this is a defect, or just unique to your riding position. -CK
As of right now, Shoei only offers clear in the CNS-1, the same shield used on the Neotec. There is an internal sun visor on the helmet that can be used on bright days. We know Shoei does plan on offering a smoke version at some point, be we do not have an ETA. ~Ali
Thanks for the feedback! What kind of bike are you riding this on, and do you have any windscreen? Thanks! -CK
Thats true of just about any helmet vent to be honest. The airflow holes have to be large enough to actually give you decent airflow, and by nature are then big enough for small bugs. -CK
that sun visor is sick!!! I want one and I dont even have a bike right now!!!
for my head shape this is the most comfortable lid I've ever tried on
57-58cm sounds like a MD based on their size chart, however, it depends on headshape as well. The GT-Air is intermediate oval, so a MD should be fine if it matches your headshape. -CK
I've owned this helmet for 2 weeks now.......worth every cent.
can you explain please?
im doubting about the Shark spartan carbon, and this one...
Maarten B you probably already bought the helmet, but ill still stay it. Im having the exact same choice right now. But the most important thing is that it fits your head. I tried them both and the shoei simply fits me best so ill buy that one
As of right now, it looks like the CNS-1 faceshield, the same that is used on the Shoei Neotec, is only offered in clear. We'll fire a question off to Shoei to see if there will be a tinted option down the road. Stay tuned! ~Ali
So you're saying this helmet isn't for you? I would suggest checking out the new Arai Defiant. It is Snell rated and will have visor tint options, if those are your top criteria. ~Ali
I've used my GT-Air helmet for one year. I love it. Especially the integrated sun visor, it's awesome.
I had issues with pressure against my forehead after ~30 min, which I didn't feel during testing.
I solved it by pushing on the styroform with my fingers. That made it perfect.
I think either would be a good option. Two other helmets that are specifically designed for un-faired (naked) bikes are the Shark Speed-R and the Arai Defiant. -CK
The airholes are a different shape, but the channels are very close in diameter. The Schuberth C3 has a similar airhole shape as well. -CK
Unfortunately, I can't include a hyperlink in a UA-cam comment, however, if you do a search for Shoei CNS-1 faceshield on our website, it will come right up! -CK
Most helmets start out with snug cheekpads and liner out of the box. The cheekpads typically break in about 15%-20% over the first few weeks. -CK
They are such different helmets, it's tough to compare. The GT Air is slightly quieter, but it's definitely more of a touring helmet. The Schuberth SR-1 is a race helmet, and not specifically designed for street creature comforts. ~Ali
The GT-Air definitely has the latest in technology from Shoei, and that includes way more than just the internal visor. Venting, aerodynamics, noise, and comfort should all be a step up from the RF-1100. With that said, I just recently test rode the new Arai Defiant, and I think it has the GT-Air beat in the ventilation category. -CK
Shoei often produces slightly different models for different markets. Typically, Shoei will use D-Rings for helmets sold in the US, but ratchet systems for Europe and Asia. If you look on the Shoei site, it probably shows the ratchet, but if you checked the Shoei USA site, it would show D-Rings. ~Ali
This helmet is more geared for an upright position to 3/4. If you ride in a full tuck, you might not get as much airflow. ~Ali
I contacted Shoei about that. Their response was that Snell does not test helmets with visors. They also said that they build the helmets to the same standards whether or not Snell will test it. My good experiences with Shoei seem to make this believable.
Where do you feel it is tight? If you are developing pressure points at the crown of the head, this is either the wrong size or the wrong shape, but if it is too plush at the cheeks, this will break in over time. -CK
The GT Air is not as long-oval as the RF1100, but not as round as the Qwest. I would definitely consider it an intermediate oval hemet shape. -CK
Sounds like a helmet shape issue more than a size issue. I think getting a thicker liner for the MD gives you a better shot at a good fit, but you may want to try a few other helmets on to see if a different shape fits you better. -CK
Just bought this helmet in matte black a week ago. Good purchase I would say.
+rico de guzman ha! same XD
Indeed, I think this will be a good choice based on headshape, due to the long oval shape. I do disagree slightly in that I think you will notice the ventilation under 100mph. However, whether you will notice enough of it under 100mph to warrant the extra bones, perhaps not. The RF-1100 continues to be an excellent value for money product. -CK
The Shoei GT Air and Shoei RF-1100 are both excellent at venting, but I'd give the Arai Defiant an edge over both. -CK
On the left is an Arai XD4, and on the right is a Shoei Multitec. -CK
I've actually never seen the Caberg Ego in person, so I think it would be unfair to compare to the GT Air. Web Bike World has a review of the helmet up on their site, if you want to see their take on the helmet. ~Ali
I've had the Inertia version for a year now. Best helmet ever!! Shoei rocks!!
The Shoei GT Air has some really nice features packed into the design. It's definitely worth a closer look. ~Ali
The Shoei Qwest is not a long oval shape, but is more neutral. The Shoei RF-1100 is more oval than the Qwest, but still would not be considered long oval. ~Ali
Yes, you are looking for the CNS-1 faceshield. -CK
See previous comment, is there a particular place that it is tight? -CK
All J&M installations are essentially a custom deal. I would contact them specifically to confirm fitment, but I would be surprised if they couldn't make it happen for you. -CK
If you ask me, the Shoei GT-Air beats both of those lids. I think the EXO-1100 is comparable for all around comfort and practicality. I think the Vision-R is comparable for aerodynamics and high performance. I still think the Shoei has the best of both in this case. -CK
already ordered one for this. Just want the internal sun visor system. The other features of the helmet are fine. The valves of ventilation are enough big to hand off and one while you don't have to put the helmet down for operation. Considerable design. Can't wait to use it now. I will have more feedback after a period of time using the helmet. Cheers,
You never know. This is a new option from Shoei and I'm sure we will see many more graphics down the road. ~Ali
Hi there, I would need your help please !!!! I've been shopping for
helmets and I have a hard time finding the right fit. The problem is
that my head measurement is pretty much in between Small and Medium size
(about 66.5 cm) as well as being somewhere between Long oval and
Intermediate Oval shape. As I wanted a sun visor, I tried the HJC RPHA
ST and found out that the Medium is too loose while I get a a little
pressure point on my forehead with the Small. Also note that the Small
HJC sun visor is dropping a little on my nose. So I then tried the
Medium Shoei GT Air Matte Black and it seemed to fit well compared to
the Medium HJC. I didn't really try the Small Shoei GT as I couldn't
really bring it down on my head (it's seemed so tight on the sides). So
here is my question, is the Shoei Air helmets tighter then other brands
of the same size? I looked at the Shoei Sizing chart and its the same as
HJC and most other brands for S & M. Is it common for people
with a 66.5 cm head to go for a Medium over a Small size?
Please let me know. Best Regards.
+iotk First, I'll assume your head measures 56.5cm, not 66.5cm. As for sizing, both the GT-Air and RPHA ST use standard sizing, but those two helmets have different internal shapes. The GT-Air is slightly narrower and longer than the RPHA ST, so it's not surprising that the RPHA ST gave you forehead pressure. The GT-Air also has a smaller neck opening, so it's also understandable that you found the small GT-Air difficult to put on. Since you're between sizes and had difficulty trying on the size small GT-Air, I recommend you consider the size medium GT-Air and also get the slightly thicker 13mm center pad for the size medium (the stock head liner is 9mm thick). You would then remove the stock head liner and install the 13mm liner for a slightly tighter fit around the crown. It will be tighter than medium but looser than small. Hope this helps! -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/shoei-gt-air-helmet
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/shoei-gt-air-center-pad
+RevZilla Hello, Yes indeed 56.5cm and not 66.5cm ;-) my bad. That's really great
advise, thanks a lot. You guys are awesome !!! Seriously, so many
relevant information and products guide/specification collected all at
one location. RevZilla rocks !!!!!
I ride on 2000 Honda CB600F Hornet. It's completely naked, no fairings, no windscreen. I had nice 110 miles long trip yesterday and my neck already got used to new characteristics. It's like having your had in pillows.
Hi. I just bought this helmet from a local dealer here in Norway. But my helmet did not have the Dobbel D-Ring. The dealer had no idea why some come with and without D-ring. Do you know? In my case I would prefer DD-ring.
***** The European ECE-approved model comes with the ratchet closure, whereas the US DOT-approved model comes with double D-rings. They are not interchangeable, and technically speaking, it would be illegal for you to use the US-approved model in Norway. -DrewZilla
Mark H SNELL standards are used for track and competition in the US. No SNELL rating for the GT Air anywhere in the world as it has the sun visor that voids it from getting it.
Thanks for the reply. I tried on the Arai Signet Q recently. It is Arai's long oval shape, but my chin hit the inside of the helmet. the Defiant is an intermediate oval, so there's not much chance of it fitting. I called Shoei today and the guy recommended the RF1100 for best ventilation. I asked him about the x12 and he said I'd never benefit from the difference under 100mph. He pretty actively sold me the cheaper helmet. This is usually a good sign.
I don't believe SHARP has had a chance to test the GT-Air yet, being so new. Also, the version that they would get their hands on would be constructed slightly differently for European or UK standards. The results would be skewed when compared to the shell construction of a US DOT-rated helmet. -CK
Do you mean to ask if this helmet will be available for sale in the UK? I think the design of this helmet means it can be worn virtually everywhere. ~Ali
The noise is from the locking system, if you do not shut it all the way, it will remain in "city mode", thus the whistling noise. Had the same problem :)
Bravo Shoei. The GT Air has a very well thought out feature package. Of course, it would be even better if it carried a Snell rating, but it's still a great lid. ~Ali
In your opinion which helmet between the shoei gt air and the xlite x 702 gt should perform better in terms of ventilation and noise reduction as touring full face helmet. On sharp test the x lite is scored 5/5 and the shoei 3/5. Thanks.
+pirate9882 We don't carry X-lite, so we cannot speak to the X702GT's ventilation or noise. I apologize for the inconvenience. -DrewZilla
Thank you for the feedback!
Well, quit driving into bugs! Seriously though, I have heard of this issue before. Best to keep the vent closed when riding through buggy areas. -CK
thinking about choosing between the gt air or the scorpion exo 2000. which has better ventilation or air flow? my place here is pretty humid temps going up to 90. which would be better?
The Scorpion vents a bit better, but the GT-Air is quieter. -DrewZilla
All Shoei Gt Air helmets sold in the USA will come with the double d-ring chin strap. ~Ali
I have a Nolan X lite 1003 for the moment and don't like it that much.It provides a pretty amount of windnoise.Does someone have experience with the Shoei coming from an X 1003?Can someone say something about the windnoise in the Gt air?I was thinking of changing mine for a Shoei.Next week I pick up my Versys 1000 lt
+Bart Ingels I cannot speak to the Nolan, but we find the GT-Air to be among the quieter helmets we carry. Keep in mind that your bike, your windscreen, and your riding position all affect helmet noise as well. -DrewZilla
That is a Versys 1000 model 2016
Trust, we definitely had some Mr. T jokes flying around the studio that day. Best part? The test rider who took it for a spin was the same staff member who was Mr. T for Halloween last October. Check our Facebook page for pics. ~Ali
I like the visor lock system. They didn't quite do it right on the Neotech, and that is probably the one complaint I have with it. No city position and it's a bitch to open when locked. This looks much more refined.
I have a NeoTec (which I love) and I'm considering buying this model as a 2nd helmet. One of the reasons I'm considering this model is they both use the same face shield and have similar features. Watching this video, it appears they also share the same pads as well. Can you confirm if this is true or not?
The pads are similar but actually are different. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/shoei-neotec-cheek-pads
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/shoei-neotec-center-pad
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/shoei-gt-air-cheek-pads
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/shoei-gt-air-center-pad
Thank you for your quick response
THe RX-Q is a great helmet. I'm sure you will be quite happy with it. ~Ali
I just bought the GT-AIR in large as it's always been my size 58-59cm and it hurts both sides of my skull on the top left and right. Is there any point in trying a xl size? Must not have the shape for my head... :/
No, I would not go to XL. Instead, I'd recommend getting the slightly thinner size large head liner. That's the size large 5mm liner. If that doesn't work, then this helmet isn't for your head shape. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/shoei-gt-air-center-pad
I went to try the xl size and the top fits perfectly but the front was a tad loose so the dealer is supplying me with 39 cheek pads. Love the GT Air Swayer TC1 matt black and red. Hope this works. I could feel the inside of the helmet pressing too hard. Thanks for your help. ;)
Hi, I have a question. I'm riding KTM Rc390, I already have AGV Corsa for track day and hardcore ride. Do you think GT-Air is a great choice for daily commute and long distance ride?
Yes, the GT-Air is excellent for commuting and long distance touring. -DrewZilla
having major fogging within the pin lock. Please help. twice now i have cleaned my visor. . replaced the pin lock back in after drying both very well. then deal with the worst fog/ which is trapped between the pinlock and visor. Please help.
Have you tried rotating the pins to adjust the fit of the Pinlock lens? -DrewZilla
i've just won one at local Suzuki&Kawasaki dealer. This helmet is so fucking amazing. I Love it!
The one problem I have found is with the inlet vent opening, it works well but because its so big its very easy to get it blocked up with bugs
This guy knows his helmets
Torn between the GT-Air and the Neotec, can you answer a couple things please?
1) Weight difference
2) Noise difference
3) Which is better in your opinion?
Thank you so much
I just bought this helmet. Feels a little tight on the cheek with the 35mm pads. Will these pads limber up any or should I buy the 31mm pads and install them or will the 31mm be to loose. Thanks
I have a GT-Air, and I highly recommend you wait some time for the cheek pads to relax before opting for 31mm. They are definitely tight at first. -DrewZilla
RevZilla tight is a understatement. I’m thinking seriously about selling it and getting the RF 1200. I like it also. I’ll give it some time and see. Somebody gives me my money back it’s gone. I already took pinlock out of package and installed it like a dummy so exchanging is out I’m sure. Never riden with it yet. Just tried it on inside house is all. It’s actually the forehead that’s hurting me. Turning my forehead red. Sore as heck. Already ordered the 31mm but we’ll see before I change them out.
Hopefully the new pads or the RF-1200 work! -DrewZilla
RevZilla tried on a RF 1200 fits like a glove. I’ll b keeping the 1200
Good to hear!
I'm a Asia Chinese, I would like to know will this fit my head? As you know, Asia people's head is more round then american.If not, what other Shoei would you command?
Do you think M is the size good for me because I have this MX helmet and the size is M 57-58cm and I just want to know that is it like the same size?
I was wondering what size would you recommened. I normally wear a medium icon armada and I'm looking to upgrade to a shoei gt air or rf1200
Jared Dulay Well the Airmada has a long/narrow oval fit, and the Shoei GT-Air and RF-1200 are more intermediate oval (not quite as long and narrow as the Airmada. I recommend using a cloth tape to measure the circumference around the crown of your head. Centimeters are easiest if you can. If you measure 57-58cm, stay with Medium in both Shoei helmets. If you measure closer to 55-56.5cm, you would actually be size small in Shoei. -DrewZilla
RevZilla alright. Thanks.
Well, we certainly have fun with them :-). -CK
Thanks for your reply.It was tight on the crown and cheeks. After speaking to one of your representatives i have exchanged it for a large helmet with the 39mm cheekpads. hopefully this will suffice.
hehe - Anthony slipped - said 'breast' instead of 'breath' :)
Seriously, though, another brilliant review by revzilla, I've spent at least 1500 on all my various bits of biking kit and at least 75% of the research I've done has been these videos! Detailed, articulate, balanced, expert, clear, good camera work, the site seems to get articulate customers going by the comments... one of the best online shops on the internet.
Looks amazing. I'm not even in the market for a helmet (I love my Shark Speed-R), but the looks brought me into the video. The graphic options are really sharp.
Seen that the Neotec was launched in early 2012 and this one year later, would you expect for a successor next year seen that the Neotec 2 has just been launched? I don’t know if it is ok to pay 600$ for a 5 year old lid. Thanks.
The GT-Air is still a great design, and the helmet stock isn't five years old. They're still making them. It's certainly possible the GT-Air could be the next to be updated, but Shoei hasn't said anything yet. -DrewZilla
RevZilla :) Nobody would buy a 5 year old helmet. I was referring to the lauch date.
I have an Xr-1100, but i am not very pleased with how much reduses the noise level.
I have a Tiger 800 ,so i am riding in an straight up position.
Which helm is appropriate for me? as far it concerns the NOISE
Arai rx-quantum? Shoei Qwest? or this one is even better as it depends noise Shoei Gt-Air?
Another question. I currently wear the Nolan N104. Nice helmet, but I would love more venting especially in the front of the helmet. The other major issue i face is wind noise. When i go above 100mph, it gets really loud. How would the GT-Air stack up for noise and venting?
"3 settings, open and close" lol
Hi, I own a Gt-Air Wanderer and I'm wondering if the top upper vent can be opened up to do some cleaning. I had it for over 3 months and rode about 1000km with it. last few days I could feel that the air ventilation on the top is not really working properly. Can the top air vent be removed for cleaning and do I need to use any adhesive to place it back on the helmet ?
We do not recommend trying to open it up from the outside. However, if you remove the inner comfort head liner, you should be able to use a Q-tip to clean the vent holes from the inside. Just be very careful. -DrewZilla
RevZilla thanks for the prompt reply. will try to do that. thanks for all the great work you guys are doing !
How does this compare to the Schuberth C3 Pro in terms of weight, quiet, and venting?
Also, I have the Sena SMH10 headset. Will the speakers fit nicely into the cutouts?
I've purchased this helmet and I'm not very happy with it, it's a good helmet it's just I'm get a whistle noise from the visor and a buffeting wind noise from under the chin
Hey t3ichou, in the meantime write to our Gear Geeks! One of them could snap a few photos for you. -CK
I just bought this baby today. It's incredibly silent even in higher speeds (95mph and higher). Only after 70 kilometers (circa 40 miles) ride my neck hurts a bit because the air is flowing through different ways than it did on my old helmet. I hope it's just a matter of getting used to it.
I'd buy the GT Air if my glasses fit better. At stock, the helmet doesn't really cater for us riders with specs. My glasses need to wedge in and sit too high on my face. I really hope something can be done about that... this is an awesome helmet, especially in the Wanderer style.
***** Feel free to respond to my comment on your other post, so that we have a single thread. -DrewZilla
What did you u end up getting?
Excellent review! I'm in the market for a new helmet + comm's system, will likely be buying the GT Air + Sena 10U. I've been a loyal Motorcycle Superstore shopper for years but will be making this purchase (plus likely others in the future) largely based on the quality of this review as well as others that I've just watched. Seriously. Thanks!
+Cwsnyder Thank YOU! We work hard to provide these informative videos, and we're glad you appreciate them! -DrewZilla
Can we get a graphics overview. It looks like the wanderer may be a lot different on each side. Love this lid though
so I'm looking at the gt air or rpha max. which would you recommend?
Unless you need the modular functionality of the RPHA Max, I recommend the GT-Air because it offers a higher level of fit-and-finish and overall quality. -TeamZilla AJ
I cannot find actual road tests on the GT Air yet. I live in Texas and am moving away from modular helmets. I ride all year and am looking for a helmet that will vent spectacularly in the summer. I ride a Ducati Monster - about 3/4 position, I think. My Multitec was good for summer, my RF1000...not so much. I like the internal visor, but could live without it. Should I get a GT Air or RF-1100? Both fit. Thanks in advance for your advice.
How much does the medium gt-air weigh?
I need a lighter helmet due to a neck injury. My current Bell is 1739 grams / 3.83lbs.
I'm looking for a helmet south of 3.5lbs.
Love the helmet... have no issues with the pinlock.
Mine keeps the sound out, haven't used earplugs since i bought it. The only con is that it gets fogged fairly quick, can't have the visor down when standing still (yes, the ventilation is open to the max)
What about the noise is it comparable to a schuberth s2? I want to buy a new helmet and it's going to be either this one or a schuberth s2.
Lovely helmet. Great weight and feel. disappointed about the in the box Pin Lock system, I have been having terrible trouble getting a seal and getting a lot of fogging. Looks like the pins are to long but im sure Shoei support will help
Please update if you have contacted Shoei support. I'm curious about what they say about this. I am experiencing a bit of the same thing with the Neotech. The pinlock deos not provide a good enough seal between the lenses. Thanks!
Dennis M I dropped their support an email explaining the issue and showing where the movement in the pins push the pinlock away from the visor on the sides. They are sending me some new pins in case these one are not to tolerance. I have also ordered myself a new insert as i wonder if maybe that was at fault. Will report back how it goes.
smallshinyant Many thanks for the response. After careful consideration I have deducted that it could be the pinlock lens in my case as well. I have had my Neotech for a while now and perhaps the sealant material is starting to get brittle and won't create a decent seal any more. So I am going to try a new pinlock insert as well and see if that solves the issue. For reference, I bought a pinlock setup for my RF-1100 and it does not have this issue. Best of luck! I hope that is the fix for you.
Dennis M No problem. Just to let you know that Shoei(UK support) sent me some replacement pins. This set a lot less proud on the inside and the new pinlock insert i brought makes a much better fit. So if you are still having problems once you have a new insert i would certainly suggest new pins.
Lovely helmet and owned mine for six days now but as others have said there is an issue with fogging up with pinlock. The fogging is not happening between the 'double glazing' but on the actual inside where your head is up one side. Its a shame and I will be going back to shop if it carries on at £400 surely it should not do this and my friend also has the exact same helmet with the exact same problem! I would say its something to do with air flow some where and I will keep experimenting with the vents. One more thing google it and plenty more people having the same problem, shame as it really is a lovely helmet and fits like a glove.
Would definitely get this checked. Pinlock works 100% of the time, when it is working properly. -CK
RevZilla
Hiya, thanks and I am giving it another week and will take it back (already made shop aware). Hopefully its a simple alteration as gorgeous helmet even if you look like an squashed alien getting it on and off:)
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Tell me more..... as still got the problem and have taken it back once to be just 'fobbed off'