30 seconds in forscan will turn it off. Pretty easy to do. It's under "battery management system" under the body control module and you just set it to disabled for a px1 to turn it off. I've been running mine disabled for a while now and no issues. I disabled it because it was too easy to flatten it after not driving it for a few weeks. With it disabled no issues. BT50 is factory without the smart alternator and they have no issues, I think it is one of the dumber things Ford has added.
Unfortunately Bt 50 does have the same smart alternator as i worked on these when i was at a Mazda Dealership and yes replaced a couple due to some being faulty both vehicles are built side by side in Auto Alliance factory in Thailand and the new Isuzu /bt50 Mazda also has the smart alternator
On a quick note if you don't want to disconnect the sensor you can drive with your head lights on that way it the alternator will be charging at maximum voltage
I have multiple batteries in the back of my 2021kia soul for music you have two options keep your headlights on or turn your air-conditioning to 3 and it will make the alternator put out more voltage also use a agm battery up front last option disconnect the plug on the negative cable and it will also stay charging but you might see the alternator light staying on I don't know if you got the first message but you can also get a digital voltage meter off Amazon you hook it up to your ignition fuse and ground it and it will tell you where your voltage is at when the car is running or when the key is back
You need to reset the bms via a scan tool to tell the vehicle when it’s had a new battery fitted on a ranger otherwise the system can charge erratically. You shouldn’t have anything earthed to the negative battery post either otherwise the system can’t compensate for the additional load because the shunt can’t see it.
I still trickle charge my battery before winter, I live a slight colder place, and first day of spring. That way I know over winter it will start on the dot, and summer I tend to leave the radio going when jump out.
You can get your Ranger set to duel battery mode pre delivery No problems but after 5000 service the voltage rose to 15volts. They said 15.1 is the max. They must have drained the battery when they serviced it. All normal now. Runs at 14.2 norm.
I did the same thing, only I fitted switch from shunt module on negitive side of battery, so I can change mode while driving and also I have Sprinter but of course no difference in operation
Hi I see you have a negative wire on the battery post, which I am guessing is for the CT radio, the current sensor will not see this current drain and can cause issues, when a current sensor is on the battery use the chassis for the ground, I also had the dealer switch on "dual batteries" mode which solved my battery issues.
Best tip is to spend the extra money on a good quality AGM battery of the largest capacity that can physically fit I’m using Delkor LN4 800cca in my Px2 handles any abuse
Thanks for the video, was interested in this topic. Was also wondering is there any feature in forscan to deactivate the rear parking sensors in my XLT? They are not working and produce a constant loud chime.
Do you get any buzzing in behind the front door cards when going over bumps? I have a new px3 ranger and it has slight buzzing in the 2 front doors when going over rough road or if i have the radio up at 15. For a new rig you think this wouldn't be the case. The windows were tinted but the window tinter said he never touched any of the cables or the routing as its behind a foam barrier.
Which model Ranger is this? I have a 2019 (19.75) Wildtrak and the battery terminals look a lot different to that. I don't recall seeing that movable link but will have another look. As for the alternator light being on, if the system detects another fault will it alert you to that? Finally to those saying "forscan will turn it off", they don't say how, which version of Forscan, etc.. Forescan is available as a free smartphone app, or paid for extra features, or as a Windows application and extra functions available with an extended licence. I've scoured its website but cannot find which version/option that I'll need to turn off smart charging. Reason that I want to do this is if I leave the car parked up for 2 weeks or more then I have to either get it jump started or put it on the charger for a few hours so I can start it. Maybe when I drive it for an extended period before parking it up, its higher voltage will give me that extra reserve to sit there for a month. Just recently we returned from a month being away. The battery was flatter than a pancake. I had to use the physical key in the fob to open the door so I could pop the bonnet to hook up the charger. I use an old fashioned $50 Arlec 20a charger as the fancy smart charger that I have would see it as a 6v battery and tell me that it's fully charged! I've already had to replace the OEM battery after I think 18 months from buying the car (new). I'm afraid that the second battery now in it will also die a horrible death if this problem persists. As an aside we've regularly travelled overseas and leaving the car in the long term carpark at Melbourne Airport for up to 6 weeks at a time has never been a problem. Only the Ranger has shown that it can't be left longer than a week or so without taking it for a spin. In the meantime I've permanently connected an Anderson plug to the battery and one on the smart charger output. So, when we go away again soon I can hook the smart charger up, leave it sitting under the bonnet out of the weather and locked (and hopefully it won't blow up or something stupid like that), so it can maintain the battery SoC while we're away.
I have a 2008 Ford Ranger FX4. I don't have this on my battery. Is there a way I can still disable it. I have three extra batteries in the back it's being charged with the one Alternator.
You don't have to drive around for 20 minutes. If your battery is good then the alternator will recover the battery in under 5 minutes. Also when engine is shut down battery will lose the surface charge and stabilise at around 12 6 volts
From Philippines here.... Good day. I have this issue after i changed my battery, it drops to 12.6 and not able to charge. Tried to swap alternator, still does not charge. So my alternator is good. After i saw this video i tried to remove the bms sensor in the negative battery, now it stablized at 14.1-14.4 with or without load. The problem is if i reconnect the bms sensor in the negative terminal, it will again drop to 12.6. Does this mean the sensor is broken? Or the Bms module (if there is any)? Hope you can help me with this one. Thanks
If i disconnect the BMS sensor, is it still safe to drive it? Will there be any alarms aside from the battery sign in the dashboard? It may take a long time looking for parts (sensor) here in my place, even in the dealership its unavailable.
I'm not sure this is a good idea. I would not like to go on a long trip with the alternator light on. All these circuits are integrated so there may be repercussions if you did this for any amount of time. I'm having my local Ford bloke "de-smart" my Ranger alternator soon.
I don't quite understand that we run 370 high output alternators or more for stereo systems and our charging system is 14.6 to 14.8 and never had a battery issue in 3 years?
@TheCommanderNZ actually that $88.00 has to pay for the mechanic, the laptop, the service writer, the person answering the phone to make your appointment, blah,blah ,blah so in theory that's pretty cheap. It's a business. Your not paying for just someone to push a button on a laptop
30 seconds in forscan will turn it off. Pretty easy to do. It's under "battery management system" under the body control module and you just set it to disabled for a px1 to turn it off. I've been running mine disabled for a while now and no issues. I disabled it because it was too easy to flatten it after not driving it for a few weeks. With it disabled no issues. BT50 is factory without the smart alternator and they have no issues, I think it is one of the dumber things Ford has added.
Do you get any dash lights for voltage/battery when you disable the BCM?
@@sdw4g63t no dash lights
It's been off for over a year and have had no issues with it
Unfortunately Bt 50 does have the same smart alternator as i worked on these when i was at a Mazda Dealership and yes replaced a couple due to some being faulty both vehicles are built side by side in Auto Alliance factory in Thailand and the new Isuzu /bt50 Mazda also has the smart alternator
I's not just Ford that added this function, every manufacturer added it, I agree in a 4wd it's a stupid feature
On a quick note if you don't want to disconnect the sensor you can drive with your head lights on that way it the alternator will be charging at maximum voltage
Does this work? Thank you
I have multiple batteries in the back of my 2021kia soul for music you have two options keep your headlights on or turn your air-conditioning to 3 and it will make the alternator put out more voltage also use a agm battery up front last option disconnect the plug on the negative cable and it will also stay charging but you might see the alternator light staying on I don't know if you got the first message but you can also get a digital voltage meter off Amazon you hook it up to your ignition fuse and ground it and it will tell you where your voltage is at when the car is running or when the key is back
Good video mate cheers
You need to reset the bms via a scan tool to tell the vehicle when it’s had a new battery fitted on a ranger otherwise the system can charge erratically.
You shouldn’t have anything earthed to the negative battery post either otherwise the system can’t compensate for the additional load because the shunt can’t see it.
I still trickle charge my battery before winter, I live a slight colder place, and first day of spring. That way I know over winter it will start on the dot, and summer I tend to leave the radio going when jump out.
You can get your Ranger set to duel battery mode pre delivery No problems but after 5000 service the voltage rose to 15volts. They said 15.1 is the max. They must have drained the battery when they serviced it. All normal now. Runs at 14.2 norm.
Can you please elaborate on what you mean by set it up for dual battery mode? Do you know how this is done?
I did the same thing, only I fitted switch from shunt module on negitive side of battery, so I can change mode while driving and also I have Sprinter but of course no difference in operation
Hi I see you have a negative wire on the battery post, which I am guessing is for the CT radio, the current sensor will not see this current drain and can cause issues, when a current sensor is on the battery use the chassis for the ground, I also had the dealer switch on "dual batteries" mode which solved my battery issues.
I'm guessing that this is the same for the Everest? Any issues with disconnecting? Thanks
My px2 charges at 14.4v constantly. I guess its been turned off by previous owner?
Best tip is to spend the extra money on a good quality AGM battery of the largest capacity that can physically fit I’m using Delkor LN4 800cca in my Px2 handles any abuse
Thanks for the video, was interested in this topic. Was also wondering is there any feature in forscan to deactivate the rear parking sensors in my XLT? They are not working and produce a constant loud chime.
Do you get any buzzing in behind the front door cards when going over bumps?
I have a new px3 ranger and it has slight buzzing in the 2 front doors when going over rough road or if i have the radio up at 15.
For a new rig you think this wouldn't be the case.
The windows were tinted but the window tinter said he never touched any of the cables or the routing as its behind a foam barrier.
Which model Ranger is this? I have a 2019 (19.75) Wildtrak and the battery terminals look a lot different to that. I don't recall seeing that movable link but will have another look.
As for the alternator light being on, if the system detects another fault will it alert you to that?
Finally to those saying "forscan will turn it off", they don't say how, which version of Forscan, etc..
Forescan is available as a free smartphone app, or paid for extra features, or as a Windows application and extra functions available with an extended licence. I've scoured its website but cannot find which version/option that I'll need to turn off smart charging. Reason that I want to do this is if I leave the car parked up for 2 weeks or more then I have to either get it jump started or put it on the charger for a few hours so I can start it.
Maybe when I drive it for an extended period before parking it up, its higher voltage will give me that extra reserve to sit there for a month.
Just recently we returned from a month being away. The battery was flatter than a pancake. I had to use the physical key in the fob to open the door so I could pop the bonnet to hook up the charger. I use an old fashioned $50 Arlec 20a charger as the fancy smart charger that I have would see it as a 6v battery and tell me that it's fully charged!
I've already had to replace the OEM battery after I think 18 months from buying the car (new). I'm afraid that the second battery now in it will also die a horrible death if this problem persists.
As an aside we've regularly travelled overseas and leaving the car in the long term carpark at Melbourne Airport for up to 6 weeks at a time has never been a problem. Only the Ranger has shown that it can't be left longer than a week or so without taking it for a spin.
In the meantime I've permanently connected an Anderson plug to the battery and one on the smart charger output. So, when we go away again soon I can hook the smart charger up, leave it sitting under the bonnet out of the weather and locked (and hopefully it won't blow up or something stupid like that), so it can maintain the battery SoC while we're away.
I have a 2008 Ford Ranger FX4. I don't have this on my battery. Is there a way I can still disable it. I have three extra batteries in the back it's being charged with the one Alternator.
Thanks for the video. I have the same problem in my 2012 mondeo 1.6 tdci. Do you know my car has smart alternator or no?
Did U end up leaving it unplugged with the battery light on the dash? No issues ?
I got the dealer to disable the smart charge during service.
It can be disabled through forscan
You don't have to drive around for 20 minutes. If your battery is good then the alternator will recover the battery in under 5 minutes. Also when engine is shut down battery will lose the surface charge and stabilise at around 12 6 volts
How can I be sure the new one will be compatible with smart charging
Disable via forscan. You have to enable dual battery mode.
Where abouts is this setting in forscan px configuration?
@@MrChrisp300 disable bms .
Can anyone give me a link to the correct/best forscan tool to buy. Thanks
Does the battery take a hit if i switch on my dual spotties? Should i do this?
Thank you very much.
From Philippines here....
Good day. I have this issue after i changed my battery, it drops to 12.6 and not able to charge. Tried to swap alternator, still does not charge. So my alternator is good. After i saw this video i tried to remove the bms sensor in the negative battery, now it stablized at 14.1-14.4 with or without load. The problem is if i reconnect the bms sensor in the negative terminal, it will again drop to 12.6. Does this mean the sensor is broken? Or the Bms module (if there is any)? Hope you can help me with this one. Thanks
i would say it's the variable voltage alternator doing it's job, does your battery go flat?
Yes. If its not turned on 2-3days it will go flat.
@@clintearvinlloydcasino8596 sounds like the sensor is broken then, you can disconnect it like i do in the video, or get a replacement
If i disconnect the BMS sensor, is it still safe to drive it? Will there be any alarms aside from the battery sign in the dashboard? It may take a long time looking for parts (sensor) here in my place, even in the dealership its unavailable.
@@clintearvinlloydcasino8596 it's not problem, your light will be on, but the battery will be fully charged
I'm not sure this is a good idea. I would not like to go on a long trip with the alternator light on. All these circuits are integrated so there may be repercussions if you did this for any amount of time. I'm having my local Ford bloke "de-smart" my Ranger alternator soon.
Good day like joure videos..can jou make n video how to replace jou diff oile please
Thanks
Good way to boil your battery. Still need some form of regulator.
I don't quite understand that we run 370 high output alternators or more for stereo systems and our charging system is 14.6 to 14.8 and never had a battery issue in 3 years?
$88 at ford to reprogram smart alternator
$88 for them to click a button in a program on a laptop... That's a rip off.
@TheCommanderNZ actually that $88.00 has to pay for the mechanic, the laptop, the service writer, the person answering the phone to make your appointment, blah,blah ,blah so in theory that's pretty cheap. It's a business. Your not paying for just someone to push a button on a laptop
Thanks