How to tell if your van / car has a smart alternator?

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  • Does my van have a variable voltage smart alternator? #vanlife self build off-grid camper van
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  • @BigVanSmallWorld
    @BigVanSmallWorld  3 роки тому +1

    Check out my Amazon Store for all your van building needs and more
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  • @team-118
    @team-118 5 років тому +10

    Mel, top job.. another way to find out is, to test the vehicle battery voltage with a multimeter. On standard alternator it will rise to about 14.5V and stay around that, whereas smart alternators will drop back down to closer to 12.5 - 13V after 5 - 10 minutes of engine running..

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому

      team 118 thank you I’m sure that will be interesting and helpful to lots of people 🤓🤙

    • @pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN
      @pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN 5 років тому

      That's why I think a standard alternator is a better choice for charging a leisure battery as it puts more juice in and quicker at doing that also although it's harder on the alternator I'd say. Mine is the standard so I always drive a few good miles to make sure the van battery gets full load then switch over to split charging. I've been doing this for a while because I need to replace belt and tensioners, the extra load on the second battery will give a squeaking noise plus the belt slipping to begin with if I don't. I need to sort it asap.

  • @davidreilly7213
    @davidreilly7213 5 років тому +9

    I've been racking my brains for a way to tell the difference. Just what I needed. Thanks 👍

  • @allanstelmach
    @allanstelmach 5 років тому

    I have been scouring the internet for HOURS trying to work this out, and you solved it in a few minutes - thanks!

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому +1

      You are welcome thanks for the positive feedback 🤙🤓🍻

  • @Buzzybee73
    @Buzzybee73 4 роки тому +2

    Sorry if someone else has mentioned, but I use the Sterling DC-DC charger. It even works with regenerative braking. Great videos and advice Mel! Its those little nuggets of information everyone else misses out that make your videos great.

  • @in-the-vanpeter5157
    @in-the-vanpeter5157 5 років тому +4

    Mel you’ve got thumbs up for sure, the ctek relays are brilliant as they also accommodate solar input. You can charge gel batteries with them too. You really are nailing these 👍👍👍👍

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому

      In-the-van Peter thank you really appreciate your positive feedback 🤓🤙

  • @andywt8460
    @andywt8460 5 років тому +1

    Hi Mel, if you look past the Transit most now have a smart alternator and it gets more complicated, Citroen & Pug have on there Hdi with stop/start use the alternator to start the engine with a bunch of capacitors to blast the alternator, only using the starter motor for initial start, it’s Valao system works well but tends to eat belts and tensioners. Battery voltage varies from 14v to as low as 11v where the stop/start is not working, but still starts on the starter. Good way to fry electrics if you don’t use a battery to battery charger

  • @dottysdetours
    @dottysdetours 5 років тому +1

    Must remember to check mine tomorrow, I wouldn’t of even thought of this so thanks Mel 👍

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому

      dave jenkins you are welcome.thanks for your support really appreciated 🤓🤙

  • @Wez2TheT
    @Wez2TheT 3 роки тому +2

    The smart charger It’s a solar controller as well! That’s dead handy. Very happy I stumbled onto this vid!

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  3 роки тому

      You’re absolutely welcome thanks for your positive feedback and encouragement really appreciated good luck with your build 👍

  • @markwilliams7573
    @markwilliams7573 5 років тому

    Very useful video Mel, keep up the good work fella 👍

  • @jacobmoores6928
    @jacobmoores6928 3 роки тому +2

    I think we have the same Ford transit base, as my battery looks exactly like yours does. Brilliant video, super helpful in my build. Keep up the good work.

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  3 роки тому

      Thank you buddy good luck with your build 👍🤓👍

  • @philabraham658
    @philabraham658 4 роки тому +3

    Great info, and gave me the info that I needed. Having a lithium based leisure battery pack I was at first thinking ahh well, solar and shore will do ... however a little bit of scratching around and Victron have jest the solution ... the Orion-Tr Smart DC-DC Charger work with LA or Lithium

  • @scottl5028
    @scottl5028 5 років тому +2

    Thanks again Mel. Very useful info.. Although Ive just connected my solar panel to the leisure battery with no split charge system... A 100w panel is more than enough for most of us for weekend camping.. Our was fine on a month trip though France and Spain with no split charge.. 12v compressor fridge, lights. And charging devices..

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому

      well done hope you had a great time :)

    • @chatteyj
      @chatteyj 4 роки тому +1

      Scott how is it on winter trips though? Not so good I imagine?

  • @unknownmeaning8506
    @unknownmeaning8506 4 роки тому

    Thank you for this information I've just bought a ford transit and wondered this going to check now! Thank you

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 роки тому

      You’re absolutely welcome don’t forget to like share and subscribe really appreciate your support 🤓👍🍺

  • @richard8241
    @richard8241 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Mel. As far as I'm aware - ( as it's what I plan on doing.) AGM can be used with the CTEK.

  • @sarahthedreamcatcher8357
    @sarahthedreamcatcher8357 5 років тому

    You are full of knowledge and explain things where even i can understand lol thanks Mel xxx

  • @tristendb
    @tristendb 3 роки тому +2

    Cheers Mel, only watched 2 vids so far and both have helped me out a lot. you have bagged another subscriber

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  3 роки тому

      that’s really kind of you to take the time to comment thank you for the positive feedback and support 👍🤓👍

  • @surferjim
    @surferjim 3 роки тому +1

    cheers Mel, just what I was looking for

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  3 роки тому

      Thank you for taking the time to comment really appreciated 👍

  • @daisytilly1
    @daisytilly1 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for the info 👍🏻

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому +1

      terry 55 your welcome thanks for your support 🤓🤙

  • @naturescaresshandmadesoaps4723
    @naturescaresshandmadesoaps4723 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks . Great explanation.

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 роки тому

      Thank you you’re absolutely welcome 👍🤓👍

  • @catdaddy2899
    @catdaddy2899 5 років тому

    Hey Mel!! Good to see you my friend... Great info thanks for sharing.. ✌️ 😎 🍺

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому

      Sal Suarez you’re welcome Sal thanks for your support really appreciated 🤓🤙

  • @sunnydaze6974
    @sunnydaze6974 5 років тому +4

    Woop woop its Mel time !!! :)

  • @baloobear7838
    @baloobear7838 5 років тому

    Very informative Mel. Thanks very much.

  • @chrismartin5772
    @chrismartin5772 Рік тому +1

    Hi mel I search for many days to try to understand why my Peugeot partner is not charging the battery ( and there is no battery warning light on ) I was looking through the Peugeot section and your channel popped up on how to spot a smart alternater in which I have thanks to your video on how to spot one So after months off sleepless nights and studying you have solved the problems in which I apparently need a soft wear update thanks Mel 😊😊😊😊😊😊

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  Рік тому

      Thanks for taking the time to comment all ways nice to hear my videos helped out 👍🤓👍

  • @joecool7606
    @joecool7606 4 роки тому +1

    Wow! Helpful thank you

  • @nur5ey1
    @nur5ey1 3 роки тому +2

    Hiya Mel... I've just purchased a Renogy 50amp DCDC charger with solar mppt too..it seems an amazing bit of kit suitable for all batteries, only down side is the 25v max input for solar panels..but you can add panels in parallel up to 400watts though...or is 600?? 🤔..can't remember cos I ain't going that big!! 😂 but it comes with a BT add on module and is compatible with smart alternators ....and a lot less pricey if like me you're on a budget!!
    Cheers Mel for all the info, glad the channel is growing nicely mate!! 😁👍

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  2 роки тому

      Nice one I’ll have a look into them when I build my next van cheers buddy 👍🤓👍🍻

  • @PBS-nm1uu
    @PBS-nm1uu 3 роки тому +1

    thanks for all the info.

  • @davehallford-nye30
    @davehallford-nye30 5 років тому +1

    Hi Mel, nice video but as others have pointed out the Ctek unit does not have a lithium charging profile like others do however that being said the majority of LiFePO4 batteries can be charged on a AGM profile as long as the max voltage does not exceed 14.6V.
    a voltage sensitive relay relies on voltage thresholds that trigger them to engage and disengage. Typically they engage to connect the starter and auxiliary battery together at around 13.3V and disengage to separate them at around 12.8V, which in vehicles with traditional alternators coincides with engine start-up and shut-down. This is ideal as it makes sure that the auxiliary battery is charging whenever the engine is running. However, with a smart alternator, when the output voltage drops to below 12.8V a VSR would disengage, meaning that the auxiliary battery would have significant periods where it wouldn't be charging, even though the engine would be running (some models of VSR may not engage at all, dependent on the on-board software). VSRs can also engage and disengage frequently with the large and rapid voltage changes from a smart alternator and so the high current contacts may fail prematurely.
    I am the technical sales manager for the exclusive UK distributor of Redarc Electronics who have an award winning range of DC-DC battery chargers that are formally approved by a number of vehicle manufacturers. They are standard fit on many frontline ambulances and large service and utility fleets.
    In over 5 years of selling Redarc product into the UK we are yet to see a single failure which is credit to the superior performance and reliability the BCDC range offers.
    One of the largest problems we have seen with the Ctek and sterling (other than failures) is they derate massively in high ambient temps which impacts performance and output current, as soon as 25 degrees is reached which can happen easily in the location these are sometimes installed the current reduces significantly and it does again at 30 degrees, majority of the time the charging current is then around 12-15A and your not getting what is on the box!.. Redarc range has full output up to 60 degrees
    in regards to voltage sensitive relays While people have been using relays for years in split charge systems it is not the best solution for charging batteries, an alternators output is constant current and constant voltage because of this it is unable to fully recharge a lead acid battery to 100% SOC, it also reduces the life span of the battery.
    you also ideally need the same type of battery as an auxiliary as all a relay does is connect them in parallel
    The Redarc BCDC range has a sophisticated multi charge algorithm that will ensure your batteries are in optimum condition and get fully charged, the 40A unit is suitable for up to 400ah of batteries. The Redarc unit also overcomes voltage drop issues and knows when the battery is 100% due to resistance, temp and voltage so if a load is applied it will provide power to the load while maintaining your battery SOC up to 40amps, for larger requirements up to 4 units can be connected in parallel to give you 160A of charging current!
    Charging a lead acid battery is like trying to fill a Coke bottle up with stones, at the start you can put big stones in to fill up capacity quickly but towards the end you need lots and lots of smaller stones to make it 100% full - an alternator cannot do this while a proper battery charger can and that is why you have the different stages - bulk, absorption and float.
    In the real world unless when under heavy load your vsr is probably putting in no more than 40A
    We sell over 1000 vsrs a month but have seen a massive increase in DC-DC charger sales and a drop in vsrs, we honestly believe the Redarc unit is the best solution for any dual battery vehicle

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому +3

      Thanks for that if you really want a free add on my channel send me one of your products and I’ll gladly do a review for you 🤙🤓

  • @geraldpadfield490
    @geraldpadfield490 3 роки тому +1

    The Ring RSCDC30 is another option and has the advantage of having a solar panel input.

  • @bobflyman
    @bobflyman 2 роки тому +1

    Very useful Mel, thanks!

  • @timfanning5309
    @timfanning5309 Рік тому

    Really helpful advice . Thanks Mel

  • @steveproud2893
    @steveproud2893 Рік тому

    Thanks for the info Mel great help👍🙂

  • @PAULSMITH1967
    @PAULSMITH1967 3 роки тому +3

    All you need to do if you have a euro twin battery system with smart alternator is remove the sensors.off both batteries..negative side. Remove the electrical plug... Alternator recerts back to factory default.. then fit split charge relay...

    • @PAULSMITH1967
      @PAULSMITH1967 3 роки тому +1

      Works awesome even have my solar via epever to batteries so charges both ways..

  • @windsor1955
    @windsor1955 3 роки тому +1

    Chekhov now do a dc to dc charger for lithium as well, identical to the original but called the 250SE. Hope this helps.

  • @gentlesoul1513
    @gentlesoul1513 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for sharing the sensible explanation 😊

  • @Roadlesstraveled1244
    @Roadlesstraveled1244 Рік тому +2

    Unplug smart plug back alternator job done 🤣

  • @charlietango1635
    @charlietango1635 3 роки тому

    Do you have another link for the smartalternator/relay, as the link below (Ebay) does not take you there??

  • @markteager
    @markteager 5 років тому

    Looking forward to next video

  • @JonGarrood
    @JonGarrood 3 роки тому +1

    Dude I added a secondary battery to my car to power my car fridge, only to find out it won't charge off my alternator if its a smart one. This is the perfect video to find out what alternator I actually have, cheers

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  3 роки тому +1

      Hay no problem I’m pleased it’s helpful thanks for letting me know I appreciate your feedback 👍😊👍

    • @stuartchapman5171
      @stuartchapman5171 11 місяців тому

      Hi thanks for this. Back in the 80's 90's we would have a bank of old van and truck batteries, for house electrics. We would take one out for a drive most days, Sat in my foot well, parallel charging off the starter battery with crocodile clips. Ive recentlybought a swb 2011 Sprinter for stealth camping. I was going to replace the battery and use the old one for a couple of led lights and fone charging. I was thinking of just going for parallel charging again. Seems I'll have to buy a charging box of some sort. Life doesn't get more complicated, it gers more expensive as well. Lol great vids Mel keep em coming.

  • @jamieb4307
    @jamieb4307 5 років тому

    Hello mel have you any good ideas on security on the back doors i worrie about being parked up and some one brakeing in ?

  • @boxvango9021
    @boxvango9021 5 років тому +2

    Wanted to relay that I get amped up for the vids, and thanks for not charging ;)

  • @jasonhughes6417
    @jasonhughes6417 3 роки тому +10

    You can charge lithium from any alternator using a dc to dc charger.
    Good brands like Victorian and Renogy make them.
    Renogy also makes one that takes a solar input too ;it has a built-in mppt charge controller). So this piece of kit will take alternator and solar input and manage the charge of your vehicle and leisure battery!

    • @rg3965
      @rg3965 2 роки тому

      You will have to run a wire from the convenience port or a switched\fused lead from the positive to the ignition port on the Renogy dc-dc charger if you want to charge from the alternator.

    • @Deepfake820
      @Deepfake820 2 роки тому

      @@rg3965 where is the best place to connect the ignition cable on a sprinter that runs to the renogy DC-DC charger?

  • @TheGreendabomb
    @TheGreendabomb 3 роки тому +1

    Great video 👍

  • @gkuk
    @gkuk 5 років тому

    Hi Mel. Good knowledge 👍

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому

      GKUK Dash Cam VW Cali thank you really appreciate your positive feedback 🤓🤙

  • @Iveavan
    @Iveavan 5 років тому +1

    So you don't ask the alternator a general knowledge question to see how smart it is 🤔 😉. Great video Mel, nice and easy way to tell them apart cheers 😊👍👍👍

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому +1

      Mark Collom #Iveavan haha that’s priceless thanks for your support really appreciated 🤓🤙

  • @stephenmorgan5100
    @stephenmorgan5100 5 років тому

    Does you vans only have one battery mine has two from the factory. In my van everything MUST be connected to the front battery as the other is for starting and electronics for some reason. Can you change the alternator?

  • @gosulivan
    @gosulivan 3 роки тому +1

    Took a picture of my battery to confirm a smart alternator setup. I can see the little black box. It's 2015 custom trend. I don't have stop start option in my van though🤔 Can I assume from the little box that I have a smart alternator? Also I am hearing that smart relays do work with AGM batteries. Am I right? Your video is amazingly helpful. Helps a non tech person like me no end.... 👍

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  3 роки тому +1

      Yes you have a smart alternator so you will need a DC to CD charge controller that work fine with AGM battery’s thank you for the kind words really do appreciate your encouragement 👍😊👍

  • @Flexaret
    @Flexaret 5 років тому

    Hi Mel, I have a 2013 mk7 Transit with dual factory fitted batteries, the negative battery lead has the sensor attached which would suggest a smart alternator. I have been running 2 x 110ah lead acid deep cycle batteries and have been running them via one of the 60mp (there are 3) consumer terminals on the back of the drivers seat base via a Durite VSR, (fused at both ends of the link cable). So far nothing has blown up and my leisure batteries appear to have been charged. I recently added 2 x 100w solar panels running to a Victron MPPT charge controller which is linked to the lesiure batteries.Still everything appears to be fine, van always starts even after sitting all week, lesiure batteries charged and no blown fuses. Any thoughts?

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому

      R Mac I would leave it as it is then something must be rite 🤙🤓🍻

  • @Neil-bp5rq
    @Neil-bp5rq 4 роки тому

    Just Got a New Ctek D250SE and it works great on its lithium profile, solar mppt input is a bonus. Tanya Batteries £235 delivered.

  • @nigeldolman954
    @nigeldolman954 5 років тому

    Nice vid. I have installed the ctek smart charger / solar in vans. Twice actually. Yes, annoying that cTEK have not brought one out with the Lithium charging protocol.
    Because this device only charges at 20A o was wondering about combining it with a CCCV charger that is rated at 20a or two smaller ones paralleled together.
    These are easily available on eBay etc.

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому

      Nigel Dolman Hi Nigel I have put a link in the description to a great (not life changing) but still solves the problems it’s a DC to DC charger and solar controller all in one check it out you may find it useful I’ll be ordering one soon 🤓🤙

    • @nigeldolman954
      @nigeldolman954 5 років тому

      Oh great. Thanks.

  • @brentlogan361
    @brentlogan361 4 роки тому +3

    Ctek now have a lithium version model D250SE and Smartpass 120s

  • @ShaneCol3y
    @ShaneCol3y 3 роки тому

    Hi Mel, I wish I had found this video first! I have a Vauxhall Vivaro sport 2017 & I've installed a standard split charge relay with a 140ah Leisure battery, it goes crazy when the engine starts and clicks quickly, I didn't think anything of it and have been using it for a month or so with having to charge the battery manually every other day too, do you think I have caused any damage to the battery? I don't want to spend £200 on a B2B controller if I've ruined my brand new £200 battery too 😟, thank you for the video and your help! Shane,

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  3 роки тому +1

      Good morning buddy it you have an AGM or led acid battery as long as you haven’t drained it lower than 12.02 v you should be ok personally I don’t like to let mine go below 12.2 what I would do is charge the battery then leave it to stand disconnected for 24 hours then test the voltage you want about 12.8 to 13 v or higher to remain if it does this you’re golden good luck 🤞

  • @ivecodavey
    @ivecodavey 5 років тому

    i had a split charge system on my old van & the alternator packed up after a few years

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому

      dave broadbent oh mate sorry to hear that 🤓🤙

  • @mitchOrr1
    @mitchOrr1 5 років тому +26

    Hi Mel, a couple of things. You don't have to use an old lead acid with a smart charger. The Ctek device doesn't allow for lithium that is correct but there are other option the market.
    They are commonly known as battery to battery chargers or DC to DC chargers.
    Redarc bcdc (available in the UK via eBay) its what we are using.
    Sterling b2b
    Victron buckboost
    To name a few. They all allow for charging with lithium and can all be set to certain voltage parameters depending on the battery type. This has the added benefit of providing the battery with the correct 3 or 4 stage charging process which is vital for maintaining battery health in the long run.
    The split charge relays are practically just a switch as you know and thus don't provide batteries with the adequate charging voltage to FULLY charge the leisure battery. They can reach the 80% mark or there abouts and if you have solar then obviously that can then top up the remaining charge to 100%. But if you where to rely on just the split charge relay then you will never charge the battery to full capacity. Unlike the battery to battery chargers.
    So in all even if you have a regular alternator it's still the better option to buy a battery to battery charger if budget allows.
    👍
    Keep up the great videos matey.

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому +3

      thank you so much

    • @uptowndisco2
      @uptowndisco2 5 років тому +3

      I thought the Ctek was a DC to DC ? it also accepts solar panel input for it's built in mppt controller , it can charge from both at the same time , or I am thinking about another make ?

    • @leoinswlondon
      @leoinswlondon 5 років тому +2

      uptowndisco2 You are right, however with the ctek you can only use lead acid type batteries and cannot upgrade further to lithium.

    • @leoinswlondon
      @leoinswlondon 5 років тому +1

      Mitchell Orr Do you have any recommendations for a dc to dc with a smart alternator the same size of the ctek 250 which you can use with lead acid and lithium? I have got lead acid at the moment, when my pocket allows I will upgrade to lithium. I wanted to install a one off dc to dc charger and only swap to lithium batteries with a build in bms in future. Thanks in advance.

    • @mitchOrr1
      @mitchOrr1 5 років тому +3

      @@leoinswlondon The Redarc BCDC1240D is the most compact unit available. It also has built in solar controller and can charge lithium so long as you buy the most recent version of it. Just be sure to check the sale listing to make sure it's the newer model with lithium option.

  • @marks-0-0
    @marks-0-0 5 років тому +1

    Whoops I've already bought my split charge system without checking my alternator! Better check it before I fit it!
    Thanks Mel

    • @Memyselfandvan
      @Memyselfandvan 5 років тому

      Me too, purchased the standard one which Mel has on his van, I have a horrible feeling my van, 2011 VW Crafter 2.0TDi has a smart alternator now.

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому

      Mark Velo I do hope it’s ok 🤓🤙

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому +1

      Michael Aldridge good luck hope it’s ok 🤓🤙

    • @marks-0-0
      @marks-0-0 5 років тому

      @@BigVanSmallWorld I've just checked mine.
      The Neutral has one thick cable and one small one on the same connection but no black box.
      The Positive has lots of connections though which was surprising.
      Gonna fit it and hope for the best.

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому +1

      Mark Velo sounds like you should be ok 🤓🤙

  • @12vLife
    @12vLife 3 роки тому +1

    I have a 2018 Ram Promaster City. Same as 4 cylinder Fiat Ducato. Would trying to charge a 155 AGM 12v gell cause my alternator to burn out in 5 minutes??

  • @mrboatiemcboatface8711
    @mrboatiemcboatface8711 4 роки тому +3

    Some transits have twin batterys in , as well as a built in spilt charge system like mine how smart is that lol

    • @wjlacey
      @wjlacey 4 роки тому +1

      Is this something you can connect to a leisure battery. I have 2 batteries in mine

  • @vanlifecornwallukfull-time6334
    @vanlifecornwallukfull-time6334 5 років тому

    Very interesting video my good friend I never realise that

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому +1

      van life Cornwall uk thank you you are welcome thanks for watching and your positive feedback really appreciated 🤓🤙

  • @whitevanman9500
    @whitevanman9500 5 років тому

    Cool Beanz Mel!!!

  • @jamesbaines2587
    @jamesbaines2587 3 роки тому

    Hey Mel - great video thx - my Transit doesnt have smart alternator thankfully. Split charge works great. I recently added an AC hookup with a charger unit to the leisure battery - all good (if a bit noisy the cheaper ones - watchout) - Heres the rub; when the leisure battery reaches full on AC charge, I can hear the split charger start to click on and off again??? Its almost like its trying to reverse the split and AC charge the car battery back through the split. Is that possible? And how to fix? TVM

    • @jrewillis
      @jrewillis 10 місяців тому

      That's exactly what it does. It's dual sensing. 👍🏻

  • @elfbell
    @elfbell 5 років тому

    the link to your daughters sight works Mel. She has your smile so I`m sure she`ll do well. lol

  • @jackjack3902
    @jackjack3902 2 роки тому

    hi mel what amp size fuses go to and from split charge relay and on ebay it says mini or mega ?can you help thanks

  • @sensibledriver933
    @sensibledriver933 4 роки тому

    Ford have used smart charging Alternators sinve around 2000. Battery monitors have not been used fitted to cars until around 2010 (dependant on manufacurer). My 2006 Transit had smart charging with no monitor.

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 роки тому

      Thank you that’s really interesting 👍🤓👍

  • @justinwakefield6555
    @justinwakefield6555 4 роки тому +2

    Hi mate, there are loads of companies make these battery chargers from as little as £60 ring, vitron and sterling make them.

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 роки тому

      Thank you and yes that’s true I use the ring DC 2 DC controller 🤓👍

  • @simonking559
    @simonking559 5 років тому

    Is there a certain year they change to smart or is it maybe all front drive vans.i fancied a front drive but that put me of .dont lead acid give off gas fume in the van.
    Intetesting stuff mel...nice one😁

  • @jasonannesley5889
    @jasonannesley5889 Рік тому

    What's Ah of the Bluetti battery pack inside unit? If the Ah works out cheaper than lithium 12v battery(s) then it's a good setup.
    Did you buy it off Amazon or was it a freebie?
    Regards Jas.

  • @linz_in_NZ
    @linz_in_NZ 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Mel - good info. Comfortably Lost in Oz fitted a split charge system that handles Lithium to their Sprinter. I'm seeing a few Dc to DC chargers pop up now - similar prices here in NZ to a VSR Split charge system and some also do Solar input too with MPPT - so probably a better option?? I read the other day that the Smart Alternators will never fully charge an AGM battery, only capable of charging to 80% due to the limited output Voltage of the alternator - to keep the emissions down - am wondering if this is correct?

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 роки тому +1

      I stick to me old led acid simple works and it’s cheep and more compatible with the battery that’s fitted to the van 👍🤓👍

    • @linz_in_NZ
      @linz_in_NZ 4 роки тому

      @@BigVanSmallWorld Me too, have an AGM leisure battery. I think the Lithium split chargers are very expensive. But the DC to DC (with MPPT) are good for AGM leisure batteries, and cost a bit less than one of the victron MPPT solar controllers here.

  • @partyboy8272
    @partyboy8272 3 роки тому

    Smart charge batteries that ford fit are silver calcium. And smart charge alternator's have a over running clutch if that helps

  • @brianboczko7169
    @brianboczko7169 5 років тому

    Bloody hell mel that was like going back to school

  • @johnward1281
    @johnward1281 3 роки тому +1

    Can that Gadget be removed from the negative terminal & a standard alternator fitted?, that's what i would prefer (old school) less to go wrong.

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  3 роки тому

      I’m very doubtful if that would be a good idea 👍😊👍

  • @georgesdesk
    @georgesdesk Рік тому

    LOL the ones that did not comment knew you were pulling their leg

  • @ML-jr1yz
    @ML-jr1yz 3 роки тому +1

    Where can I connect to D+ wire for a B2b charger In a 2010 transit jumbo 2.4?

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  3 роки тому +1

      To the positive on the engine batteries

    • @ML-jr1yz
      @ML-jr1yz 3 роки тому

      At the moment solar is not charging , too overcast. Did had a splitcharge that came with the van but for some reason it stopped charging , two batterys down at 73% solar have been keeping there over the last few days, thats why i want to fit a votronic battery to battery charger , little drive and will top up batterys .

  • @howardbibby8983
    @howardbibby8983 4 роки тому

    Hi quick question, just about to convert transit for my daughter but it has 2 batteries, with positives separately going to the battery fuse box. Which positive should I use for the split charger. Any help gratefully appreciated

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 роки тому

      Hi have a look at the back of the battery box aka seat base if you’re lucky you will see a red junction box that’s there just for this purpose let me know 👍🤓

    • @howardbibby8983
      @howardbibby8983 4 роки тому

      Mel’s Van World cheers Mel, will have a look tomorrow and let you know, cheers for the quick reply. Keep up the good work 😊👍

  • @elldees4071
    @elldees4071 3 роки тому

    Hi guys I have read somewhere that you can just unplug the smart receiver from the negative terminal then your alternator reverts to around 14v charge, then you can use just a standard split charge relay, I do not know if this will cause engine management issues on the vehicle or whether or not your vehicle will throw a wobbly.

  • @jrkeiko
    @jrkeiko 3 роки тому +1

    Brilliant. Thank you. So clear !!
    ( can the smart ones charge agm batteries ?)

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  3 роки тому

      Thank you and yes with the rite controller 👍

    • @windsor1955
      @windsor1955 3 роки тому

      Ctek 250se or other makers available

  • @LT_TOMMY_
    @LT_TOMMY_ 4 роки тому +1

    Great vid mel 👌
    So this is on any make or model vehicle?
    Ive got a crafter ... 👍

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you and yes as far as I know it’s across the board on most vehicles 👍🤓👍

    • @LT_TOMMY_
      @LT_TOMMY_ 4 роки тому

      @@BigVanSmallWorld Good man , i was all ready to film me installing my split charge and someone mentioned a smart alternator...
      Totally stopped me in my tracks 😂😂
      Cheers pal 👍

  • @gavwyatt5314
    @gavwyatt5314 4 роки тому +1

    Hi, Glad i watched this, do you have a new link for the variable voltage (smart) alternator, Relay unit, please ?

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 роки тому

      Hi gavin Thank you for watching I’ll check the link later today after work thanks for letting me know it’s not working 👍🤓👍

  • @charlieanderson5303
    @charlieanderson5303 5 років тому

    Check-out the REDARC BCDC 1225/1240 - compact heavy duty in vehicle dual battery charger which will handle both standard and smart alternators and all battery types.

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому

      Charlie Anderson thank wi will have a look at that sounds impressive 🤙🤓

  • @partyboy8272
    @partyboy8272 3 роки тому

    And thay charge at higher voltage mine in the morning when cold goes to 14.9 volts and when it's got wormer is goes to 14.3

  • @elldees4071
    @elldees4071 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Mel,
    Has you transit only got one battery under the driver seat?

  • @gavkit
    @gavkit 4 роки тому +2

    Just been researching this,
    C Tek
    D250S is the original unit
    D250SA was there last unit
    D250SE is there latest with use with LiFePo4 includes all other battery types
    Integrated solar mppt
    20amp charging or 140amps with the addition SmartPass 120
    Sterling
    BB1230 and BB1260
    All battery types
    30and and 60amp charge current model dependant
    No Integrated solar
    Victron Orion-Tr 12-12/30 smart
    All battery types
    30amp charge current extra units are used in parallel to increase current eg 30+30=60amps two units £274x2
    This is quick short insight, please do a in-depth research before making a purchase.
    Careful if running a negative cable to the starter battery, connection may defeat current sensor!!! I would imagine this will give the computer/alternator the wrong info ??
    Mel love your videos, very informative

    • @gavkit
      @gavkit 4 роки тому +1

      Awesome videos by Sterling Power
      ua-cam.com/video/3npZQ7JGp0A/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/cJlk2nMGrys/v-deo.html

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 роки тому

      Thank you for taking the time to help really appreciate it 👍🤓👍

  • @binladenosama1578
    @binladenosama1578 3 роки тому +1

    Redarc Australia for all your 12 volt systems Components

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  3 роки тому

      Absolutely I’ll be using them again for sure when I get back there and build out another van for winter prospecting 👍😊👍

  • @Nevillet2000
    @Nevillet2000 Рік тому +1

    The National Luna charger available in SouthAfrica charges Li-ion batteries

  • @jacqueblatchford1908
    @jacqueblatchford1908 3 роки тому +1

    I'm currently looking at a dc to dc charger instead of the split relay. Not sure what your thoughts are?

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  3 роки тому +1

      Definitely get the ring dc to dc mppt controller 👍😊

    • @jacqueblatchford1908
      @jacqueblatchford1908 3 роки тому

      @@BigVanSmallWorld I was looking at the renogy 40amp??

  • @rickardenstedt
    @rickardenstedt 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Mel, what if you just disconnect that little black box on the negative cable, can you use the chaeper relae than?? Regards Rickard from Sweden

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  3 роки тому

      I wouldn’t do that if I was you

    • @rickardenstedt
      @rickardenstedt 3 роки тому

      @@BigVanSmallWorld ofcourse not... have a good day mate!

  • @remlatzargonix1329
    @remlatzargonix1329 5 років тому

    I will check out your daughter's UA-cam channel!

  • @GAZOD
    @GAZOD 5 років тому

    Will have to check my battery tomorrow, I have same van as you LWB medium roof RWD but I have 2 batteries under my drivers seat ?

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому +1

      GAZO D my van has two batteries under the seat as well 🤓🤙

    • @GAZOD
      @GAZOD 5 років тому

      @@BigVanSmallWorld Sorry only seen the one. Made me wonder why mine had two :) . will be checking mine later as about to do the wiring later this week.

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  5 років тому +1

      GAZO D no worries don’t be sorry it’s quite common for transits to have two battery’s good luck with it do let us know how you get on 🤓🤙

  • @jayahayes8603
    @jayahayes8603 Рік тому

    You can use a renogy dc/dc charger

  • @philipmerlier9102
    @philipmerlier9102 4 роки тому +1

    Sterling produces a B2B charger, for smart alternators, that will charge lithium batteries

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 роки тому

      That’s good if you have lithium batteries but me personally I don’t like them

  • @HighlandWoodsman
    @HighlandWoodsman 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Mel, recently discovered your videos and they are great, I've learned alot. I'm getting to the point where I am about to install electrics in my van. It's a 2015 transit custom. I just assumed it was a standard alternator until I recently heard about these smart ones so I thought I would check. Now I've got the computer chip part on the negative terminal so I'm thinking smart alternator. I carried out the voltage test using a multimeter also and all readings were around 14.7. So now I'm confused. Any help appreciated. Cheers Sam.

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  3 роки тому +1

      Hi Sam 14.7 that’s absolutely right 👍 good luck with your build 👍

    • @HighlandWoodsman
      @HighlandWoodsman 3 роки тому

      @@BigVanSmallWorld so does that mean it is a smart alternator or that is isn't? 😆 As in the the voltage doesnt drop below 14.7 like people are describing a smart alternator should?

    • @DO_sd1hg
      @DO_sd1hg 2 роки тому

      @@HighlandWoodsman Exactly the same with my 2015 custom. I have the black box thing on the negative, but it's reading 14.96v constant so appears to be standard alternator. Did you work it out for sure in the end?

  • @joelsmith3055
    @joelsmith3055 3 роки тому +1

    Check out renogy dc to dc 50 amps charger inverter

  • @scottmcintosh2988
    @scottmcintosh2988 4 роки тому +3

    50 amp Renergy
    Dc to dc charger with not solar charger 260 to 300 US dollars it isolates starter battery solar charges all battery has settings for lithium A G M
    Led acid different charge profiles and has battery heat sensor

  • @pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN
    @pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN 5 років тому

    Your van looks good Mel from across the road! The near side window 👍 I also have, great for seeing around, less cave effect. Somebody keeps mentioning or possibly a few but are you actually Australian? I feel a bit of a twat for asking for some reason 🙈

  • @zed7031
    @zed7031 4 роки тому +1

    Can someone help. I have an AGM battery which I think is lead acid? My ford transit has a smart alternator system. I need a dc-dc charging kit can someone send me the correct one.

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 роки тому +1

      good morning iv used this company for years they do fitting kits
      rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575467911&toolid=10001&campid=5338454651&customid=&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fitm%2FSterling-Power-BB1230-12v-30amp-DC-DC-charger-Split-Charge-Euro5-6-Camper%2F252631309942%3Fhash%3Ditem3ad1ffde76%3Ag%3AlgsAAOSwHMJYGg2k

    • @zed7031
      @zed7031 4 роки тому

      Mel’s Van World thanks! Another question.. is the CTEK mxs the same thing? Is it a DC to DC charger?

  • @whocanlucan4879
    @whocanlucan4879 27 днів тому

    If you have lithium then you'd have to have a charge controller anyway. So your smart switch ain't wrong but it's only correct about connecting directly to the batteries.

  • @norwegianzound
    @norwegianzound 3 роки тому +1

    To do with emissions and stuff....Euro 6 compliance

  • @leedavies9309
    @leedavies9309 5 років тому

    how as ur van got one battery mine has two have to check if it has the leisure set up( great video)

    • @stephenmorgan5100
      @stephenmorgan5100 5 років тому

      Same as me and Ford told me that any additions I add to the van must be connected to the front battery as the rear is for the starter and computer?

    • @leedavies9309
      @leedavies9309 5 років тому

      @@stephenmorgan5100 thANKS FOR THAT I WAS JUST ABOUT TO FIT THE LEISURE BATTERY SET UP

  • @LancashireProClean
    @LancashireProClean 4 роки тому +2

    check out road pro they do a range of dc to dc chargers I have votronic 3324 30amps £160.00, 3year guarantee. It will charge any battery and I have a LCD screen that tells me how many amps is being put into starter and leisure battery and the level of charge in each battery

  • @johno7808
    @johno7808 5 років тому

    👍

  • @rugathecanecorso4865
    @rugathecanecorso4865 4 роки тому +1

    Hi mel is this the same on a VW crafter 2016 thanks

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 роки тому

      I wouldn’t like to say for sure but if there’s a odd looking box with wires coming from it on the negative of your battery I would say yes definitely 👍🤓👍

    • @rugathecanecorso4865
      @rugathecanecorso4865 4 роки тому

      Cheers Mel there's no black box so hopefully just a normal split charge 👍